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Episode Date: November 30, 2025

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Crash and Burn, the Amy Schumer story. She was once hailed as the queen of comedy. By like who? Like other fat chicks? Amy Schumer. If ever there was a celebrity destined for a Crash and Burn episode, it was her. Just a few years ago, she was one of the most popular female comedians of all time. With a...

Totally astro-turfed. Nobody ever really liked her. I don't know why she was in anything. During a successful stand-up tours, movie deals, Netflix specials, endorsements, Forning Magazine articles, and all the apparatus of the Hollywood industrial complex behind her. A woman who was not only theoretically funny and a box office draw, but... A outspoken feminist and activist who somehow managed to position herself behind every major trend and movement that looked to be gaining traction. But it turns out that Amy Schumer's towering empire was built on a shaky foundation of stolen material. questionable talent, high-profile controversies, a massively inflated ego, box office flops, and extremely shitty personal conducts.

And eventually... I didn't know any of that. I just didn't think she was funny. Elle came crashing down in the kind of slow-motion train wreck that was less a spectacular implosion and more like death by a thousand cuts. So join me, your humble drinker, as we explore Crash and Burn, the Amy Schumer story. Schumer was born in 1981 in New York's Upper East Side, the daughter of wealthy Jewish and Protestant parents. Her dad ran a successful furniture business and the family enjoyed a pretty cushy life for much of Amy's childhoods. The good times weren't to last though.

The business eventually went bankrupt when she was nine and her parents divorced a couple of years later. Oh wow, another troubled celebrity whose parents divorced at a young age. What are the odds, eh? Penny fucking good. Anyway, Amy soon discovered an interest in the performance. in arts and ended up studying theater in college before eventually drifting into comedy. By the mid-2000s, she was a regular on the New York stand-up circuit, and in 2007, she made it to fourth place on the reality show Last Comic Standing, where she impressed the

judges with her mixture of dark, raunchy humor and ironic self-reflection. Positioned as a young up-and-coming talent with... I think that that's one of the things is that for a while in the 2000s and the 2010s, a lot of comedy was just like kind of self-depreciation and people really liked it. But I think that people went too far with it and it just kind of got to be weird. And I think that in general now, it's not as appealing as it used to be. It started to get corny. With a sharp edge, she was soon booking guest roles in shows like 30 Rock, curb your enthusiasm and girls. But Amy had her sight set on bigger things. Her 2012 comedy special, mostly sex stuff, was what really put her on the

as a major player. That's what I always, like, that was always my viewpoint about it, is that every time that I would listen to one of her jokes, it would be like some crude joke about vaginas or something like that. And I'm thinking to myself, like, I'm a guy, like, I don't think I'm to target audience for this. Like, I don't want to see this. It's just like weird.

Basically set the tone for her entire sense of humor going forward. Crude, dark, self-deprecating, and weirdly obsessed with the workings of her own body. Oh my goodness, a female comedian whose entire act revolves around sex and dating, what's ever will they think of next? I mean, personally, watching an out of shape 30-something New Yorker spending two hours talking about what her vagina looks and smells like, sounds about as funny as a cancer diagnosis, but each to their own, I guess. Comedy truly is subjective and somehow hers was working big time. Amy was soon being positioned as the next big thing, more edgy and daring than our contemporaries,

I don't know why anybody thought this was ever edgy. It was so boring. Push boundaries and make fun of herself. And pretty soon, she made the transition from guest star to movie star. Oh, wow. 2015's train wreck where she played a drunken, promiscuous party girl that was basically just a toned down version of herself was well- I was received by critics and went on to make $140 million at the box office against a $35 million budget.

By now, Amy was riding high with a string of successful comedy shows, TV appearances, I didn't even know about this. I didn't know about this. It sounds like a movie that like is for girls, so I didn't see it. Film career. What could possibly go wrong? Well, quite a lot as it turned out. The warning signs were there as early as 2011 during the roast of Charlie Sheen, where she made her joke about the recent death of Ryan Dunn in front of his best friend, Stivo.

And well, it didn't exactly go down like she hoped. And I know you must have been thinking it could have been me and I know we were all thinking, why wasn't it? Jesus Christ, if even Steve-O doesn't see the funny side, you know you've fucked up. But okay, fine, every comedian has an off day, I guess. Yeah, it could be weird, but like I... Her first real mistake was one that many celebrities have fallen victim to over the years. Politics. She'd always been outspoken about her political views, but during the 2016 presidential race, she really kicked...

Let me guess, she liked Hillary Clinton. Let me just take a... Let me take a bet. She was a Hillary Clinton fan? into high gear. At a show in Tampa, Florida, Amy decided to take a break from talking about her vagina to go on an extended rant about how much she hated the Orange Man and how- Oh, Donald, getting, crashing out over Donald. Women, right? What are you going to do? Everyone needed to vote for Hillary Clinton instead, because she said so, prompting booze

from the audience and causing hundreds of people to walk out. I always just cool to hear what one we want to vote for that orange. Oh, saunty. So bold strategy, cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them. Fucking hell, man. Well, I think there's a bunch of other fat, like, upper middle class women that think this is hilarious. I bet, you know, that's, that's really, the thing is that there's a huge audience for that kind of stuff. There are. There's so.

many of them. I watch those ice counter protests and I see a lot of Amy Schumer fans in the audience. Let me just tell you that. So it's really not that much of a fucking niche opinion. But at the same time, if you want to make movies and you want to sell movies, you're going to have a problem doing it if you have all these opinions. You do. Like that's why you have somebody like Tom, what does Tom Cruise believe in besides Scientology? Basically, we don't really know. It's not part of it. It's got nothing. He's just a movie star, right? That's it. And I think that a lot of politicians, like a lot of comics, the problem is that a lot of comics try to emulate someone like Dave Chappelle or someone like George Carlin, for example. And not everybody has to be Dave Chappelle or George Carlin with trying to give their takes on modern society and everyday life. Like you can be Mitch Hedberg. You can just be funny. You don't have to do anything crazy. You can be Gallagher. Okay? You can just smash watermelons. You don't have to have all these like crazy, weird fucking opinions that fit in with everybody else. So yeah, that's what I'm saying. And I'm not even a comedian and even I understand how to read a room. Shit like that might have played well in New York or L.A. But in a red state like Florida, it went down about as well as- She did this in Tampa, Florida? Oh, geez. Drip her at a funeral. Not only had you waded into the middle of the most devoid. vice of election in living memory and alienated half her audience in the process, but the cracks were beginning to show in her comedy armor as well. People were beginning to notice that there

wasn't a whole lot of variety in her comedy shows. Every one of them was just her talking about getting blackout drunk, sleeping with lots of guys, going on awkward dates and how disgusting she found her own body. Isn't it crazy how... It's like you have this girl is like the... She's like the musical warrior version of Taylor Swift. It's kind of the same thing, right? So culminated with 2017's Leather Special on Netflix, which was an unmitigated disaster, rehashing the same tired material she'd been using for years,

horribly delivered with no sense of timing or enthusiasm, and getting brutal reviews from audiences and critics. Blacking out, blacked out, blackout, blackout. My pussy's, my pussy. My pussy. My pussy. My laptop? Pussy. Shut up! Yes.

The complaints and backlash against her were mountain, but weirdly for someone who made a career out of self-deprecating humour, Amy turned out to be surprisingly thin-skinned when it came to criticism directed at her. You might think this would have been a good opportunity to reflect on her creative choices and maybe change course a little, but nope, her ego just wouldn't allow for it. Her standard response was to... See, people didn't like Bill Murray at the beginning of him being on... Saturday Night Live. My dad told me that nobody liked him and then he won him over. And it's like that's what you have to do. You're not always going to have everybody like you right from the beginning. You've got to win people over sometimes. That's the way it is. Never liked her? Oh.

Mr. Critics as haters, misogynists and right-win chuds who just couldn't handle her political views instead of acknowledging that maybe her act was becoming. The alt-right trolls or the anyone who reported that viewers aren't happy with my special it would have been cool if you did a moment of research before posting the art alt-right trolls attack everything I do well you shouldn't have antagonized them so you attack

their their this is their glorious leader their tangerine warlord and you go and take a shot at him and now you're surprised that their mad at you. That's it. How do you do that? Kierci rated with a party of oh, geez, 9-11

viewers? Wow. I guess it's going down, guys. Yeah, welcome to the stream. I appreciate it. Yeah. Hi, we're watching a video about how Amy Schumer sucks. Yeah, hi, thank you, Kiershi, for the raid.

This is her seventh streaming anniversary. Congratulations, Kirsti. That's great. Yeah, good for you. Seven years. It's a long time. Damn. What was I doing seven years ago? Well, that's right. Same thing. Same exact fucking thing. Yeah, there it is.

And yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. And kind of stale and predictable. She was also remarkably touchy about the body she'd spent so long making fun of. After spending years advocating for more plush at any size. More like a chunk. Less sized women in media, glamour magazine, rewarded her by including her in their chic at any size article, which caused her to get all

pissy at the implication she was overweight. I think there's, what does it say? What does it say? I think there's nothing wrong with being plus size. Beautiful, healthy women. Plus size is considered size 16 in America. Well, what do you mean plus size is size 16? How much does a woman at an average height, uh, way on, on average.

if she wears a size 16 170 pounds at 5 foot 4 that's fat that you're fat I'm sorry but you're fat like that's the way it is I mean I don't know really what you want me to say

you're fat like I mean damn it's that simple the five not well yeah of course but i i said average height that's what i said average height look at bMI oh yeah you're right you're right you're right okay yeah bMI uh bmi calculator okay um height five feet uh four inches weight one was it 190 what did it say again 170 170 i do it to them like that Oh, damn, bro. She almost on the, she almost on the hog watch.

Uh-oh. BMI's garbage depends on your body fat percentage. We're Phoenix. Are we talking about Eddie Hall? Are we talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronnie Coleman? No. We're talking about Amy Schumer. Okay?

She's not, the only weightlifting she's doing is when she gets up. Shut up. Shut up. We all know that. Everybody knows that. I mean, no offense, but have you ever looked in a fucking mirror? You've also got to appreciate the irony there. Hey, there's nothing wrong with being plus-sized. In fact, it should be celebrated. But don't ever call me that.

It all just paint- Yeah, it's the thing, yeah, Lizzo's so beautiful, she's so attractive. You look like Lizzo. Fuck you, you're getting blocked. I hate you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're really trying to play those games, bro. Like, what are they doing? The impression of a prickly, arrogant, egotistical celebrity who was far removed from her self-deprecating comedy persona. Worse was soon to come, though, when it was revealed that a lot of the jokes from her comedy routines seem to have been plagiarized from other comedians like Tammy Pescatelli, Kathleen Madigan, Wendy Liebman, and Patrice O'Neill, amongst others. Before you could say talentless hack, YouTube was awash with compilation videos showing Amy's jokes and comedy skits and the material they seem to have been inspired by. This is one of... I feel like there are always going to be cases where people, like a lot of people tell some similar jokes. Because, I mean, if you're making an observation about something, a lot of people end up saying the same thing.

Like, I remember whenever I, like, X added videos and I said, oh, what are they going to call? them X videos and like everybody said this it's not like you didn't need to steal the joke uh it's just obvious like it's an obvious joke but some of them and the thing is that it's kind of like what i said before about like points on a graph and drawing the line if you've got a couple of points on the graph it's like eh maybe maybe not but if you've got compilations oh that's like carlos bensia remember him yeah The big no-noes in the comedy world. You never steal other people's stuff and if you happen to, even by accident, you absolutely have to come clean and apologise.

Once again though, Amy's response was just to deny everything and dismiss her critics as sexists and losers. It hadn't really worked before and with the mountain of evidence piling up against her, it definitely wasn't working now. Public opinion was shifting rapidly. The magazine articles that used to fawn over her were now openly critical of her career and, quote, questioning her declining popularity. Of course. All wasn't well on the movie front either. And this is another factor is that she used to be, like, she used to be relatively conventionally attractive, and then she gained a bit of weight and she stopped being

conventionally attractive. And again, I don't think that, I mean, she's not like super hot, but I mean, she's conventionally attractive, right? She was. Yeah, if she lost 50 pounds, she'd be funny again. Exactly. So it's the opposite. So when women, lose weight, they become funny. When men gain weight, they become funny. That's the way it works. Her next big project, I feel pretty, about a fat woman who gets brain damage and is convinced she's nice. So wait a minute. So she's crashing out about people calling her fat, but she plays the role of a main character that's fat. Wow. I don't know. Like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel like I gotta lay down after this. Slim and attractive. Fuck it. Just go with it.

was supposed to be a feel-good comeback that played to her self-deprecating humour, but instead provoked a storm of backlash with the unintended implication that women can only feel confident through self-delusion. The movie was absolutely lambasted by critics and audiences alike and further damaged her comedy credentials. More and more she was beginning to look out of touch and, well, just not that funny anymore. Then there was the stuff that just made her look like a generally shitty human being, like willingly taking photos with fans on the street,

only to bitch about it later on social... Wait, what? What? Media to make herself seem like a victim of harassment, or openly bragging about... Wait, what? Sleeping with a guy who was so blackout drunk that he didn't even know what was happening to him.

Hmm, flip the genders for a second there and just imagine how that must look. The cumulative effect of all these high... It's like the average Twitter thread about me. Profile setbacks in negative publicity. Yeah. was a career downturn that makes Brie Larson's look like a controlled landing.

She was still bagging the occasional movie role, but usually as a supporting actor in low-budget slop. The problem is that, so Amy Schumer used to be a relatively attractive woman who was a bit on the thicker side, but a lot of guys would swipe right on her.

I think that they would have. I do, and you might disagree, but I think that's a factor. And so a lot of women want to see themselves in an attractive woman. They do. And so if they feel like they can relate to an attractive woman and she's saying things that are relatable, it makes them probably feel good about themselves. But the problem is that then whenever you do get fat and you're in movies, nobody wants to watch an actual fat chick in movies.

Yeah, they just don't, they don't want to see that. I mean, like, that's it. Yeah, like, you look at the difference. And I know this might seem mean, but I do think this is a legitimate. thing. I do. Like, if you look at, she's, I think she's pretty. I do. I think she's pretty. And this is like one of those things where it's like, where is it? It's like before and after marriage. Really? And I'm just, I'm just being honest, right? And so like women want to see themselves in someone that is, I think, likable and, you know, like attractive that people want to be. That's it. Is she married? I don't know if she's married or not.

But I'm just saying that's the way it is. ...seemed like a victim of harassment or openly bragging about sleeping with a guy who was so blackout drunk. Yeah, it's like, I know people might not want to hear that. But like a lot of women's popularity has to do with their appearance. It just does. It's just the way it is. You might not like it, but that's just the way it is. This is in media.

just true in media in general. ...unk that he didn't even know what was happening to him. Hmm, flip the genders for a second. She's married to a chef? That's a good advertisement for that restaurant. ... there and just imagine how that must look. The cumulative effect of all these high-profile setbacks and negative publicity was a career downturn that makes Brie Larson's look like a controlled landing.

She was still bagging the occasional movie role, but usually as a supporting actor in low-budget slop that nobody cared about. Yeah. Glory days of train wreck were long behind her and she wasn't a bankable star anymore. She was still making the occasional TV show and comedy special, but the fire and momentum was long gone, the prestige of her public. Well, and I think also, like, for a while, there was like a popular, you know, kind of toxic millennial girl, depreciating humor, I'm such a slut mentality that I think has gone away because a lot of those women are now like 35 or 40 now.

That's what's happened, right? Like you're you're not, you know, 28 or 23 anymore. And so it's not the, it's not the same thing. Certain streamers. Well, I mean, it is. Like, the thing is as a guy, so here's the thing, right? As a guy, it's less of a big deal, right? I mean, like, I don't, age is a barrier.

Like, for example, like, it would be hard for a guy that's like my age to attract an audience of, you know, guys that are like, teenagers, right? Because you know, you're going to want to watch, like, unless you're doing like those like that, you know, Andrew Tate type content. But like, in a general sense, I feel like for, for women, I mean, it's definitely like, that's a huge component to it. It's a huge component. Absolutely. But like for men, it's less, it's less of a big deal. Harnished Beyond Repair, she'd gone from one of the leading voices in female comedy to a virtual pariah, disliked by audiences, distrusted by her. And I think also it's because people, people like this is just the truth like a lot of people just don't think that they don't care about women comedians in general like there's like this a stereotype that women can't be funny and i don't really think this is true but obviously i think that you know for a guy being funny is much more important than it is for being for being funny as a girl so you're probably going to have obviously more guys that are going to do that just because that's the way that we're socialized but in a general sense i don't really like i don't really believe

that, but I do think it's a factor. Appears and discredited by movie studios. Amy Schumer is the perfect example of a celebrity who can dish it out but can't take it. There's a lot of them. A woman who founded her career on pushing boundaries but couldn't handle it when they started to push back. She was always happy to make jokes about everything and everyone around her, but in the end, the biggest joke of all was on her. Geez. Anyway, that's all I've got for today.

Go away now. know. Yeah, I mean, I'm not that surprised. Honestly, I'm really not. I feel like really, uh, she was never really that funny. And the gimmick that she had worked well for a while, but then people lost interest in it and she wasn't able to reinvent herself in a way that was interesting. She was then scanned and stole jokes. I don't think that's really it. Reminds you a streamers that make it too fast. They can't take the criticism. No, I think that a lot of streamers just, like, I feel like a lot of people in general, like, I'm never really surprised whenever people can't take criticism because it's hard it really is whenever you have

people criticizing you criticizing the way you look like something you spent your whole life doing like you do get defensive about it and it happens really easily and i know people might be uh you know like oh that wouldn't happen to me it's easy to say that when it's not happening but i think yeah she's just like a one-trick pony like there's a lot of actors that have kind of transcended this i think that two great examples are Jonah Hill and Matthew McConaughey. Matthew McConaughey used to be pretty much like exclusively in rom-coms. And then somewhere around like 2008, 2009, he started taking different roles. And he like really even his early roles that were like, you know, different outside of that scope were incredible. And before you knew it, he was like, you know, up for an

Oscar, I'm pretty sure with the Dallas Biers Club. And so yeah, true detective, Lincoln lawyer. Yeah, Lincoln Lawyer and Mudd, and I think there was one more. I don't remember the third one. And my dad and I used to watch movies every week, and so we watched all of his movies, right? True Detective, Interstellar were his transitions. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, Lincoln Lawyer, I thought was really fucking good. And Best Role was Dazin Confused.

I'm not even going to say what he said. Oh, no, that's not getting clipped. Absolutely not. But, yeah, that was recorded in Austin. I've been where it was recorded. it's kind of cool to be there. But yeah, anyway, so much drinkers to crash and burn about Amber Hurd.

I mean, she's just retired, right? I mean, that's about different. But, yeah, anyway, I had to go about two straight years with no roles to achieve that, though. Yeah, it's hard. It's really hard to do that. And, you know, Jonah Hill lost a lot of weight,

and then I think that he really transitioned and he became a really great actor, you know, outside of the, you know, fat equals funny thing. And you compare that with something like, you know, like, I don't know, like, who's that other guy, John C, I think his name is.

It was in, oh, fuck, Scott Pilgrim and Superbad. I forgot his name. You know, it's like you get typecasted. Yeah, John Cena. No, not Michael Sarah. Michael Sarah, there you go. Yeah, you get typecasted.

And like in Moneyball, he was amazing, right? He was. But, you know, at that point, that was like kind of a transitionary role. It was. But, yeah. Do you see your new game? No, I have not seen my new game. I don't even know what my new game is.

I have no idea. and yeah comedy changes with time yeah it does it changes with time and certain things that were funny aren't funny anymore and i think vice versa like for example like telling thing telling edgy jokes i think definitely goes it goes up and down right like sometimes it's really popular sometimes nobody likes it and i think it really just depends on uh you know what the culture is at the time more than anything else