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Episode Date: June 25, 2025

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This is actually insane. The voice actor community is actually dying. They're firing people. They're getting replaced by AI. And it's happening over here on the subreddit for Honkai StarRail. That being a Hoyover's game for those who don't know. We've got the title. Calis and Stel have been officially recasted.

These are, by the way, the main characters of Honkai StarRail. Honkai StarRail is one of and in some months is the biggest gotcha game in the entire world. It is a massive fucking game. It's huge. Version 3.3. Now, as you guys know, I do play Genshin, but I don't actually play Honkai, so I'd like to get some additional context here at Ghosu gamers.net. We'll just spend like 30 seconds reading the key areas here at the top where they say Honkai StarRel version 3.3, the fall at dawn's rise, dropped on Wednesday, May 21st, with two new five-star characters in Hyacine and Cypher, Hyakene, and Cypher, as well as tons of other editions. However, the update also featured a surprising change as the voice actors for the game's main character, the Trailblazer, have been replaced.

Man-Hanthi Star-Rail players embark on an interstellar journey as the male or female version of the Trailblazer, commonly known by their canon names Salas and Salas, excuse me. Yep. Since the games launched in April 2023, the Trailblazer has been voiced by Caleb Yen, Kayas, and Rachel Chow, Stel. So this is basically like the... These are the main people. The Traveler Mansion. Let's take a look and see if the voice. actors who got recast have issued any statement on this yet hopping over to Twitter first for

rachel chow we can see the bio does still say the NBA for stelle and scrolling down there is nothing as of May 5th that's the latest post but her pin tweet does say making the jump follow me on blue sky at the same handle chow for now i'll keep is blue sky a suicide cult for your career because i'm starting to feel like it is yeah this is unbelievable how does this keep happening yield Twitter up so you can find me and to protect this glorious handle. All right, hopping over to Blue Sky. Yep.

We can see Rachel Chow is also here, but interestingly enough, on Blue Sky, her username is a little bit different, including She They in the username. Interesting because on Twitter she put she they in the bio, but over here it's in the title. I don't know. Is that a Blue Sky thing or something? I have no idea.

Yeah, I don't know. But the bio does still say Enva of Stell and Hong Guy Starrail. And similarly to Twitter on this part, no activity lately and no statement issued about the recasting. As for Caleb Yen, he does also still say Trailblazer in his bio. But I don't believe he's on blue sky. So all we'll take a look at is this Twitter account. And there's even less activity here, Pintweet from 2021.

Voice actors are getting replaced. I mean, I feel bad for a lot of them that are getting replaced. But the problem is that, I mean, it's the same with any type of technology. It's selfish for you to think that the entire world has to live. with a higher cost of something because you want to keep your job on life support. Nobody is entitled to having their job kept on life support through the effective welfare of the society.

And the last post, actually, from back on December 5th, 2024, let's actually return to the blue sky account for Rachel Chowdow. I found something that gives some more context. So two months ago, we got this blue sky post from Sharr that says to Rachel so glad you could find happiness and have a great day. I miss you a whole lot in Hongai Star Rail. It's kind of a niche job. Yeah, it is.

requesting them to sign the interim agreement for AI protections so you and the other wonderful actors can get back to voicing our beloved characters. Check her Expedition 33 post. Let me see what she said about it. I'm actually kind of curious. Is it 250? Give me a minute. Okay.

Now, it's fine. Yeah. No, there's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, the interim agreement is a, about a lot more just air protections. That's like the whole Trojan horse thing.

Yeah, sure. Like manipulative part that a lot of people have been criticizing the VA's SAG, the agreement for, to put it simply, of course.

But I suppose I'll add on to this really quickly for anyone who may be out of the loop on this still. And essentially one of the biggest issues is that... Do you think this will trickle down

to big games? Well, I mean, Honkai Star Row is a big game. I think more and more you're going to see video games turning towards AI instead of using these actors because a lot of these actors

are in these unions. and they're asking for too much money, basically. And the problem is, like, this company doesn't want to pay them that much money. So they're trying to collectively bargain. And also, here's another big issue is that a lot of these people create PR issues for the company when they, for example, go and give, like, their political hot take on something, and then the game gets collateral damage because of it. So if you're making a video game, do you want to keep these people involved?

probably not. And these VAs and SAG are trying to flip these games, Hoyover's games and other games to be union only games, which would come with a lot of negative repercussions for VAs who are not a part of the union, such as forcing voice actors who don't want to join the union into joining the union and having to pay those members dues. Well, this is the problem with unions,

and this is the issue is that, like, I'm more pro-union than not, but unions are not infallible. And oftentimes whenever a union becomes big enough and large enough, it starts mirroring the same problems that it fights against. And I think this is an example of that. Risk being terminated from their positions, from their roles. Nevertheless, Rachel Chow responds and says,

oh, thank you so much. That is really so kind and helpful of you. Hoping for good news soon, too. I guess that didn't age so well did it. Here's something really funny. So back on the subreddit Honkai StarRail and the post that we read earlier about this recasting news, you can see a. A top comment here says, so it's like can each and Genshin, only new lines for now.

Older will be replaced in the future. So it'll be a mix of both VAs for now. There is also lots of NPCVA changes, not even for E.N, but looks like for JP also. The response saying, we live in hope that this means we could still get a recast for Pai Mon. They all want to recast her because everybody hates her. And I think that's the exact reason why these companies are trying to go for the recasting. It's because they don't want to deal with some random weird SJW like super fucking liberal

like crazy person that's going on blue sky and saying stuff that alienates their players Who the fuck wants to deal with that? I will play the heck out of Genshin If they recast Pymond. Give her free runs English VA and I'm sold. So you can see that the people's dreams for a Pymon recast is still holding strong, still very much alive.

I think so. Maybe more alive than ever. now. An interesting point at the top about the Kniech situation and these VAs getting replaced. I do wonder if when we see the announcement of who the new VAs are for the Trailblazers and Honkai, if we'll see,

just like we saw happen to Jacob Takanashi, the new VA for Kniech, that a certain click of very toxic English voice actors and sag after bootlickers and their supporters will try and harass the new VAs too, just like they did to Jacob Takanashi. They absolutely will harass them because they think they have the moral authority to do so. They think that because they are fighting for the right cause, that it's okay for

them to just attack people that are not on their side. That's basically how it works. Of course, they all know very well how much backlash they got for that situation, though. So perhaps this time they won't actually do it, even if they really want to. Maybe now they'll be scared of all the backlash that they will get from the communities and the internet at large. It's really crazy how big of bullies these people are. We literally saw some VAs on Blue Sky saying that people like Jacob Takanashi deserve to be harassed even more. And saying stuff like- Of course they want to harass them because that's the way that they maintain control.

They want to harass and bully and attack anybody who doesn't join their union. So they can collectively bargain for more money and effectively just get more out of the company. So anybody who doesn't want to play ball with them and doesn't like what their parameters. are they attack that person in order to keep that person out of their their cry bullies yeah that that's what they do it's because and and to be fair like in their mind like if that's their goal that is the most effective way to achieve that goal is you have to bully and attack anybody who disagrees with you so you create a monopoly so you can control the market that's what they're trying to do oh back in the back in the good old days of unions people used to get physically assaulted for being scabs

and trying to make it sound like, oh, Jacob, Takanashi, got off easy. And all the fans mad at us really shouldn't be mad at all. By the way, let me also clarify something. This comment we read a moment ago that I said is a top comment is in fact the top comment in the thread, both sorted by top and also sorted by best. Come on, Reddit.

What are you doing? Because you also have, like, you have to keep in mind that like a lot of these companies are done overseas. So a lot of like the American social issues that like, you know, kind of intersect with all these problems are totally non-existent at all. They're totally non-existent. They don't care about these issues.

They don't give a shit about it at all in any capacity. Speaking of people upset on Blue Sky about this news and getting mad at the fans of these games, there is some stuff we'll take a look at in a moment where, yeah, there's more people mad over on Blue Sky. But first, I bet they are. Let's hop over to the Genschen Impact subreddit. We took a look at Hongai Star-Rail.

Now we'll read some over. on our Genschen. This post reading, the VAs for Honkai Star Rail main characters have been replaced, which we share the VA of Gomming with. So I guess he'll be replaced soon. Hey, quick side note about that. Do you guys remember, do you guys remember

when Gomming was released and people in the community were making memes about like gaming? Like, wow, they really released a character in a game whose name is gaming. And then you had a bunch of Twitter cops. I remember that. We're probably now in the blue sky. Yeah.

Saying that it's very offensive to make fun of his name. Like, you guys shouldn't be doing that. It's like racist. It's a Chinese name. Well, this is what these people always do. This is why nobody likes them and it's why they don't get support. It's because they're constant tone policers and carins. And so whenever you see an organization of people that have collective bargaining power to be carins together, taking an L, that's the big reason why they're getting a lot of like anti-support, basically. Some of the most brain rot stuff ever.

To take it even further back, it was like when people were mad about the John Lee memes. Oh, you can't call Zhang Li, John Lee. That is so problematic, guys. Oh, my gosh. Now, look, really quick, as much fun as I'll make a Blue Sky, which is completely justified, by the way, completely justified. Yeah. I will say, as mentioned, that I have seen some, like,

actually, like, cool artists on Blue Sky. So I always feel bad for the people around Blue Sky. It just went through to, like, share art and stuff and are, like, not weird. But my gosh, man, that whole website has some serious brain rot issues. It sure does. Like, Twitter is still bad. but I'll say that it got a little bit better maybe even more than a little bit better

because a lot of those sort of Twitter caught people did go over to blue sky that's a back. Well, no, I don't think that would have mattered because the reason why the Twitter cop people went over to Blue Sky is because every time they try to be Twitter cops now people make fun of them and just are mean to them

and that's what they deserve by the way is to just be made fun of and disregarded and just laughed at. That's the problem. So they left Twitter because they left They can't compete in the free marketplace of ideas. And so they have to go to Blue Sky instead because that way they'll be protected from anyone who disagrees with them. That's what happens.

Like while the levels have bounced out a bit more on Twitter. Yeah, community notes was devastating for the Blue Sky community. It's like Blue Sky is completely out of balance. There's just so much brain rot there. It's crazy. But going back to this Genshin post about the VA's recasting stuff, Most of the responses at the top are responding to the question about, like, gomming potentially getting replaced. But here is one that talks about VA stuff in general, saying, what are the odds for Zach and Sarah, Ather and Lumines's VAs, these being the travelers, the main characters in Genshin, to also be replaced.

I would also understand if they do that, but not going to lie, I like them so much. I'd be sad if slash when that happens. Now, I don't know anything about Sarah, but I will say about Zach. I actually met him years ago completely through chance at Anime Expo, was walking around the exhibit hall, and he came up to me, we start talking. He mentions he's a voice actor for Genos on One Punch Man. Because at the time, I think that was- I'm sure Twitter is a free marketplace of ideas. It is.

You can put any idea out there and you don't get banned for it unless it's like an advocacy for violence. And even then you usually don't get banned for it. So I actually think that Twitter is 100% a free marketplace of ideas. I don't know why you would say it's not. It's only like notable role. So it's way before Genshin. Yeah, that's why they hated it.

That's why they're mad and all that. Exactly. And yeah, he seemed like a pretty cool. hardworking, chill dude. And I'm assuming all these years later, he still is. I haven't really kept up with him, but I can only say good things from my experience with him years ago, so I'm assuming as mentioned, he still like that. Point being, he seems like one of the good VAs out there, and I do hope this all works out

for him. Taking a little more of a look through this thread before we move on to the blue sky anger, this next comment reading, I just hope they won't recast Zach. Him, Zhang Li and Yito Viers are the only ones I hope don't get recast. If you're part of one of these unions, you're probably going to get recast sooner or later. Eventually, the company will get to a point where it will be worth it to just recast everybody from the union. And as soon as one company breaks the ice with not working with people from this union, it then makes other companies feel comfortable doing the exact same thing.

And then after that, the union ceases to have any power. That's it. It's like if you overstep, basically, and then too many people like can't work with you, that is happening, especially Hoyleverse. Yeah, Hoyleverse is like one of the biggest companies too. On reading, apparently we have reached a found out portion of Fafo. It's sad. Wuthering waves doesn't work with American voice actors because of this?

Is that true? Wait, is that actually true? It's not significantly impacted by American Voice Actors Guild because it utilizes primarily British voice actors. Well, there you go. They're all English, yep. Two, I do enjoy the current swatch of ENVAs. I really do. But at this point, the game has been...

The thing is, though, it's like, it's so funny because, like, I think about the voice acting for some of these other games. And then I feel like all of these, like, really well-known voice actors and, like, in, like, this community just get totally bodied by some random guy

who's, like, a theater actor somewhere in Europe playing Egon and Elden Ring's Shadow of the Earth Tree. Like, this guy just totally fucking just came out of nowhere. Who is this fucking guy? and he just, it's not even remotely close. Veild. The jig is up.

Everyone knows the truth about the strike and its real goal. And I'm frankly, I hope Ben Starr one day he's becoming the Sean Bean of voice actors and like video game like actors is that like an inside of every single game, it's like the end of it. It's not very good for him. I'm tired of having my game enjoyment held hostage by people who should have quite frankly known better. And another comment wanting Pymond to get recast reading,

I hope they can now also recast the white flying turd we have flying right next to us. That takes us over to this exchange back on Twitter, where a Genshin YouTuber said, I really wish there was a better outcome for the English VA situation. But as soon as Hoyos started replacing people, it was evident that they were fighting a losing battle. Yes. Response reading,

what's crazy about it is that Genshin and other Hoyover's games aren't even affected by the strike in the first place. No. The English VAs chose not to record, they wanted higher payments or something like that. With someone else saying it's much more complicated than that. And then a different user responding saying, no, it's not. I don't know about that.

Saga actors do what Sag does and strike because of AI, quote-unquote. Yeah. When in reality, they want absolute control over Mahoyo projects. They hide behind a facade of AI protections. Hoya already respects AI protections and rally. They only respect AI protections because they have to right now. The moment that they don't have to, they won't. if you actually think any of these companies are going to willfully lose money in order to not have AI, you are delusional.

The non-union VAs. When their lives were uncovered, the higher ups at SAG conveniently started enforcing their global rule one. Union actors cannot work on union projects. You mean on non-union projects, I think, but continuing. Holding the VAs that do want to go back to work hostage, it's not that complicated. The SAG VAs just tell you. it's complicated to have you feel pity for SAG when in fact they are the problem. Another response to the initial tweet reading,

who was fighting a losing battle? This is SAG's attempt to strong arm a foreign company to comply with the scummiest contract I've ever seen. That's exactly. Hoiiverse has been incredibly patient with the strike. If anyone is fighting a losing battle, it's SAG. Hoyo isn't going to budge. That seemed to. They don't need to because time is on their side and so is the audience.

The audience cares more about the characters than they, do about the voice actors, obviously, because the character, like, it would be more if, like, for example, like, in a lot of, like, AAA games, you have, like, you know, for example, like people are saying Ben Star, right? Like, Clive looks kind of like Ben Star. Verso looks kind of like Ben Star. And so there's more of a connection to the actor. But like in a lot of these gotcha games, it's so disconnected that people don't make that connection at all. upset someone else as they say let's defend the billion dollar company together guys let's go to which that other user responds saying if you actually read into it in the situation whoever people know him is in the right this is something that we've discussed a number of times in the past two how sag after and a number of the union vAs have come off so unlikable that people are actually defending the corporation in this example something that is very rare but that sag after and those vAs managed to accomplish through how unlikable they are congratulations we'll take a look at a few more examples here. This one's saying

it was revealed by Rio's VA that it was just the VA's own volition to strike in hopes of getting Hoyo to sign that for better treatment. The better treatment being the agreement that's really a bad agreement for Wayo Verace and Badgering on Union VAs. It was a group effort done by them, the Union VA's, rather

than being orchestrated by SAG after us. I don't know how, I'd argue some people do care about voice actors. I think that people do care about it, but the problem is that when you have voice actors, and this is an issue with all entertainment media is that most people don't really respect entertainment media in a big way because they view it as a luxury profession. So when people complain about it, they don't get as much sympathy as when like a

firefighter is complaining or like a nurse is complaining. That's just how it is referring to this action as a collective work. Yeah, they get a real job type stuff. Yeah, exactly. The current video game strike, the official one by SACA aftera is against a number of major Western gaming companies. According of my recollection companies such as electronic arts, Warner Brothers, etc., etc. Now, it does seem like Sag After is involved on some level, aside from just having their members involved with the collective work refusal against Hoyover's games, as we have seen them trying to act as a mediator, a middleman of sorts with getting the work refusal's demands sent over to Hoyover's and asking Hoyover's to sign said demands.

Are there a streamers bitchers about something? Yeah, streamers are a great example. Like whenever some streamer gives like a political opinion Like even like me or Hassan people always are like shut the fuck up You're a streamer you don't know what you're talking about And it's the same with like remember when Pokeyame was talking about like Eat the Rich and everybody got mad at her Like people just don't want to hear that from people in entertainment

They don't want to hear that and it's it's very annoying and off putting Some people speculate that they have more involvement some less That's just the way it is From what we have seen there at the very least trying to get this whole like contract forwarded and signed by hoia ultimately whatever the case may or may not be it is still important to remember that sag is a union built by its members so by default by talking about sag after a you are still also talking about its members some people try to draw like a very clear distinction between the union and the vAs but the union is made up of

the vAs now if we go into further detail of course there's like a hierarchy so to speak yeah with some members not having much involvement. Maybe they just vote here and there. Others are bringing in significant amount of money and get things like health care benefits, but around 85% of members, according to my recollection, don't qualify for the minimum income to get benefits. What a surprise. So there's like varying degrees here, of course. I mean, it's a huge union.

It's not surprising. And then there's people who are voted in to have like these executive positions at the union and whatnot. Yeah. Regardless, though, it is ultimately made up of the members. And some of those are actors, some voice actors. some voice actors, you get the point. What's interesting is when you see lots of people trying to put all the blame on SAG after itself and act like the VAs are all innocent when, as we just discussed,

this is it. This guy is fucking based. Not higher payment. They want to create a monopoly disguised as AI protection. Yeah. They want to make sure that they are the gatekeepers for anybody trying to get a job inside of this space and work on games that they're involved in. Because that's what's best for them.

Obviously, that's what they're going to do. And furthermore, as you know, as you know, you can see here and elsewhere on the internet, such as Reddit, etc., etc. Some people try and cite Erica, the VA for Venti, as proof that SAG is forcing VAs to do certain things and that they don't have free will of their own.

For example, this comment that reads, FIAs that are part of the union... I know a lot of people know this, but like SAG stands for Screen Actors Guild. It's a really, really big union here in the US, and it's what a lot of people in entertainment are a part of in order to get better deals. could get blacklisted by SAG AFRA.

Yeah, in case anybody doesn't know that. Vente's VA confirmed they are being sent threatening emails by the union. There's a lot more to it, but yeah, VAs are not to mean people to blame. Well, in some cases, they are. In some cases, VAs have outspokenly bootlicked for the union and harassed people like Jacob Taganashi. In such cases, absolutely the VAs are also to blame because they're enabling the predatory behavior going on at SAGAFTA

and harassing people who would stand up to SAGAFRA. And this is something that has also happened to Ventis VA. So I find it kind of messed up actually that this person is mentioning Erica here, the VA for Ventee, but only mentioning the threatening letters part because it helps their argument. Yeah.

As they try to paint all the VAs out as like innocent, when Venti's VA Erica actually got harassed by other VAs on Blue Sky when she began to expose SAG. And those VAs were even saying things like Erica deserves to get those letters and they were trying to downplay them being like, oh, the letters aren't threatening. This is just what happens.

Erica deserves this. So give Erica. Keep this in mind every time that they act like victims. This is what I've said before, is that a lot of these people love to throw shit, but the moment that they get any shit, now they're crying. This is the reason why I don't have any sympathy for anybody who's being critical and hostile online. Because they'll always cry and they'll be like, oh, I'm being harassed.

Damn, that's crazy. Wow. Wow, really? Okay. The credit that she deserves For going up against the corrupt VAs And their corrupt union And stop enabling Depredatory behavior

All right now let's get some blue sky anger We got this post that says I've been hearing murmurings That the English voices for Stelle and Kallis and Honkai star It's a furry Of course it's a fucking furry What is surprise Yep

Have been recast Regardless of whether that's true Who could have guessed? need to reiterate my disappointment in the fandom response. That's so many people are so ghoulish as to not care about the livelihoods of the VAs that literally give voice to the main characters of their favorite game because how dare they have to play a game for a few months missing some voice acting. I mean, that's part of it, but you're also ignoring how people just didn't like being manipulated.

You don't, it's not like, just stop doing this thing where you keep trying to guilt-trip the customer. stop trying to make the customer write checks on your behalf. It is so annoying. When streamers do it, a voice actor does it, an actor does it, a game developer does it, stop blaming the customer. If you are delivering a product and the product that the person is receiving is not what they want it to be, they have every right to be frustrated. That's the way it is.

This isn't some kind of fucking relationship. it's a transaction Stop trying to emotionally manipulate people Just because you think that they're supposed to care about you You're selling a product You are the product That are lying to them about their demands And what they're trying to do to Hoyo and non-unayez

It's funny how this is so often left out By people who are trying to always defend The Strike and SAG They are mindless, petulant black holes of content consumption And I can't stay It won't make a difference, but I won't be giving Hoyo any more of my time. It's time to drop Honkai Star Rail and all of Mahoyo's other games. You can see they open...

I really want to go back to this person's account in a year, and I want to see if that's true. Because I don't think it's fucking true. With their rage post here, with a really gross analogy, and then go on to say, quote, The voice acting union is actually got on quote, If you don't get bent. So are they just defending SAG there?

Is that what they're trying to get at, I guess? Yeah. Quote, they aren't grateful, on quote. Dude, it's a job, you know, the thing neither of us have. And then they get really mad at this post in particular. Looks like it's from Reddit, where this person says, Hoyo has shown more patience than nearly other companies who would fire anyone not working, especially when there is no official union strike against any Hoyo games.

It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but I'm not surprised by the decision. They're all getting replaced by AI. This is going to be bad. I think that you're going to have, like, you're going to have 80% of voice acting in games in probably five to 10 years that are done with AI. After all being on voiced for so long. Response reading, especially since the tunkai stars, a game with eight hours story patch every patch. They don't have the cards. It genuinely hurts their whole game because it ruins some people's immersion on the story.

They simply can't wait any longer since we're closing on the ending of the first half of amorphorus. Actually, that's umphorius, I think, my bad. They close their rant by saying, I don't write about games much anymore, except for my own blogs. Because you got, you got negative feedback because people don't like what you're saying.

That's the reason why. That's what happens. Yeah. I feel okay making fun of these people. Well, I mean, all we really got out of this is that you're defending a corrupt union, so congratulations, I guess. But look at this.

Elsewhere on blue sky, there were some people actually defending oil overs. For example, this person says, uh, at this point, voice actors getting recast like that in Hoyo games don't feel so surprising. It just feels so hurtful that they can just throw people away like that. All they want is protection. Is it that hard? Sigh. Once again, we know they want a lot more than that.

But this response says, what could have happened when you refuse to work for no valid and official reason? Yeah, if you stop doing your job, the thing is that collective bargaining goes both ways. If you say I'm not going to do my job unless you give me more money, the company also has the right to say, okay, we're not going to give you more money. It's not like you just invoke this every time you want more money and they just have to give you more money. In this exchange, you can see someone says,

as much as I didn't want it to happen. Duh. They withheld work. It was bound to happen. Jesus. It's been ridiculous to not have the main character voiced since 2.6, four patches. I'm not celebrating them losing the role.

but I am happy to finally have the character voiced again. No hate their way or the new VAs. Yeah, of course. Ignoring the fact that most video games went on voice slash minimal Vian back in the day, just so you can rip on people's livelihoods is real rich. Bro, this person was so respectful about it, and this guy is still getting, like, rousal getting, like, seething over it.

Oh, God. Oh, my gosh, it gets worse. Look at this. I hope you lose your job to AI one day, and I hope AI prevents you from finding another one. Holy smokes, dude. Do you think this is a byproduct of the protest culture that's come about in the last 10 years? Yeah, I think that we have a big protest culture because people are bored.

They're bored and they have no meaning, so they have to find different social causes to attach to themselves to. So they can feel better about the fact that they live in absolute privilege in the greatest time in history. And they share some form of guilt for it. That's the reason why. They're always so mad and weird sounding, man. Yep. What are you on about? I know you aren't talking about the strike against meho.

And back in the day, my guy, the strike hasn't even passed a year. I know critical thinking is hard for kids these days, but we can't hold your hand through it anymore. Not that I expect much from a selfish redacted. Bro, are you stupid? You didn't even make a- Take your meds. Yeah, bro, get, like, get help. The point to be doing with.

This is crazy. Go ahead and reread what I wrote and come up with something that actually is relatively. into what I said. Instead of digging up insults, you don't. One last thing we'll take a look at here. Do you remember months back near the beginning of this whole situation? When a number of VAs went to Reddit to try and defend SAG after and the strike by continuing to spread a false narrative to which people on Reddit called them out, some simply asking questions and these VAs responded by either dodging and not answering and or blocking people or giving like manipulative lies as a response to which they got mass downvoted. Well, we'll take a look at this comment from two months ago really quick and you'll see why in a second. It reads, They can't see it on Blue Sky. I asked a few of them to clarify and they called me names. Said I was anti-worker and pro-billion-dollar company and blocked me.

Kit Harrison, Cherokee both did since I was replying to a thread where they were both then. Blue Sky is the greatest safe space for the vileness of Twitter, but I think a lot of people treat it more like a blog than social media. The reason we're taking a look at this again is because... The reason Blue Sky is simply a safe space. for people that can't handle Twitter. And it's also dying. Blue Sky, however popular you thought Blue Sky was,

it's becoming less popular every week and every month. Because the only reason why it exists is to basically be some kind of oppositional force against Trump. And eventually people lose interest in that. And this is also another big component, is that as a voice actor, for example, Andy Circus or Ben Star, both people that were in Expedition 33.

One of the reasons why these guys get cast is because people know who they are. And it's like, oh, it's this guy, right? So a lot of people are doing themselves a big disservice by moving over to Blue Sky because they're handicapping their growth as a content creator. And if your growth is built around popularity and you leave the place that's giving you popularity, well, you're going to have a pretty bad fucking time. thinking of a number of the VAs who were on Reddit trying to defend the strike and what I said. And I did recall Kit Harrison.

So I went over to Blue Sky to Kit Harrison's account to see if he had anything to say about the recent recasts. And there actually wasn't anything that I saw. Doesn't seem like he's talking about it. But there is one thing that I thought was rather interesting and give some insight onto the VA work. That being this post where he talks about money. The context is he says two days ago, was driving home yesterday and a pheasant flew headlong into my wing mirror from the side. Heck of a shock.

You shouldn't dwell on these things, but if I was driving at any different speed, it would have been way, way worse. Watch out for low-flying birds, kids. First of all, why was he riding in a windmill? Bro, sucks what happened to your car. But that takes us to the quote that he made of that post where he adds onto it saying, ARG, 75 euros for a new wing mirror and 450 euros for a new door window. anyone needs circa one hour of high quality voice acting.

So you're telling me these guys actually get paid. Like this guy trying to get paid. What is close to $600 USD for an hour of voice acting? And no offense to this guy, but he's not exactly a household name. Doesn't exactly. $600 an hour? Um, yeah. Guys.

Ah, yeah. Oh man, yeah I think I can see why they're using AI We have like a big credit list here And still wants like 600 USD around For an hour, around an hour of VA work Is that really what these people are trying to charge? Yeah

That's just crazy in my opinion So yeah, please let me know what you guys think about that Am I reading that wrong or is he really trying to charge like 600 Just about 600 USD for an hour of VA work? I don't think voice actors are really rich. and it's not really like they have some kind of like crazy super you know fucking like high overpaid job but the problem is that nowadays especially when you have and you have the same thing with streamers right streamers talking about like losing ad revenue wow there's a streamer that showed

their ad revenue and last month they made $18,000 and this month they're only going to make $12,000 oh my god can somebody please uh you know can we start to go fund me so they don't go homeless they're going to have to go be a mailman now. It's just like really. And the problem is that I think that people don't realize that, especially on the internet, you're communicating to an audience of people that is global. So even if you think $12,000 isn't a lot of money every month, which I mean in some places, like a couple of places at least, it's really not a lot of money every month, like San Francisco,

for example. You know, if you're looking at it from the perspective of a Chinese person maybe, or, you know, maybe somebody who lives in a European country that is a much lower standard of living, then you're going to have a totally different viewpoint on this. Yeah, you're talking to people. Yeah, basically, you're talking to people that are making $15 an hour complaining about making $600 an hour. That's not going to go very well.

It's not. And it takes me back to really quick to something I covered months ago where there was the, oh, what was that creepy pasta thing? Ben drowned, I think. Yeah, the creator Ben Drown put out an ad for like needing some background voices. And a bunch of people on Twitter were mad with what he was trying to pay, asking him for like hundreds of dollars just to say a few lines. And that sounds so crazy then. But apparently, yeah, these people really do think they should get like paid hundreds for a few lines or like 600 for an hour.

Yeah. If these people think that they're going to get paid hundreds of dollars for this in the long term, I think that they're delusional. like AI is going to totally replace this shit and it's not even going to be close I don't know man I don't know I don't think it's a great look but maybe I'm reading it wrong I don't think I am but if I am let me know the comments and let me know what you think about all this stuff including that little bonus at the end little uh little insight into the VA stuff here yep hope you enjoyed the coverage if you did please consider I figured I've watched this video because I have covered this drama for a while rest of your week and I'll see you in the

comments as well as in the next one. I didn't know they're adding Ultron. I just recently saw that. So I do think it's really funny to see this happen. And I think it's going to happen with more different companies. And I think also one of the reasons why there's a lingering animosity of the voice actors, the reason why is because the voice actors and a lot of people that worked in tech, they were the ones that were the biggest farmers and the biggest pushers of learn the code or, you know, some other forms. of dismissive language when white collar or sorry blue collar workers

lost their jobs to automation and so now these same people are the victims of automation themselves and there's nobody left to complain or cry about them because nobody cares so that's it and at least it could be a common guy with an AI voice changer yeah yeah definitely and have you heard about

the smash community drama apparently they killed someone and the person who exposed them got the video false flag got re-uploaded no I don't know about that sounds pretty heavy I'll probably wait till tomorrow until I cover that because of just how extreme it sounds. So, yeah, that's at least the way I see about it. And, um, Svangv, I don't know what you meant by that. But yeah, actually, to learn a code and now AI has turned me into a monster.

Well, yeah, of course. I mean, like a lot of people, the thing is that a lot of people that are smart are going to be able to use AI as a multiplier for their efforts. But the issue is that for voice actors and certain people, they're going to get replaced by AI, because the fact is that AI will replace the bottom 80% of performers. And just by the numbers, most people are in the bottom 80%. That's what the 80% means. And so most people are going to end up getting replaced, coders, and this has happened. Like, how many of you guys have had an element of your job that has been replaced by

AI in one way or another? How many of you guys have had that happen? I have? Yes, of course, right? And so like you have, and so I got laid off. Yeah, right. And so like there's a, there's a component of it where it's being used in AI. And I think this is what's going to happen in a lot of cases. And it's going to happen more and more and more. And you can't, you can't stop this from happening. You can't make this go away. It's just going to keep getting worse and worse. And I think the problem that a lot of people have with these voice actors is that you have this double speak where it's okay that some people lose their jobs to AI. or automation or some form of technology, but it's not okay that they lose their job. And I think that's the big issue that a lot of people have, and that's the reason why they're frustrated more than anything else, right?