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Episode Date: August 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is actually insane. The voice actor community is actually dying. They're firing people. They're getting replaced by AI. And it's happening over here on the subreddit for Honkai StarRail. That being a Hoyover's game for those who don't know. We've got the title. Calis and Stel have been officially recasted.
Starting point is 00:00:17 These are, by the way, the main characters of Honkai StarRail. Honkai StarRail is one of and in some months is the biggest gotcha game in the entire world. It is a massive fucking game. It's huge. Version 3.3. Now, as you guys know, I do play Genshin, but I don't actually play Honkai, so I'd like to get some additional context here at Ghosu gamers.net. We'll just spend like 30 seconds reading the key areas here at the top where they say Honkai StarRel version 3.3, the fall of dawn's rise, dropped on Wednesday, May 21st, with two new five-star characters in Hyacine and Cypher, Hyakene, and Cypher, as well as tons of other editions. However, the update also featured a surprising change as the voice actors for the game's main character, the Trailblazer, have been replaced.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Man-Hanthi Starail players embark on an interstellar journey as the male or female version of the Trailblazer, commonly known by their canon names Salas and Salas. Caelus, excuse me. Yep. Since the games launched in April 2023, the Trailblazer has been voiced by Caleb Yen, Caylus, and Rachel Chow, Stel. So this is basically like the... These are the main people. The Traveler engine. Let's take a look and see if the voice.
Starting point is 00:01:26 actors who got recast have issued any statement on this yet hopping over to Twitter first for rachel chow we can see the bio does still say the NBA for stelle and scrolling down there is nothing as of May 5th that's the latest post but her pin tweet does say making the jump follow me on blue sky at the same handle chow for now i'll keep is blue sky a suicide cult for your career because i'm starting to feel like it is yeah this is unbelievable how does this keep happening yield Twitter up so you can find me and to protect this glorious handle. All right, hopping over to a blue sky. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We can see Rachel Chow is also here. But interestingly enough, on Blue Sky, her username is a little bit different, including she they in the username. Interesting because on Twitter she put she they in the bio, but over here it's in the title. I don't know. Is that a Blue Sky thing or something? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, I don't know. But the bio does still say ENVA of Stell and Hong Guy Starrail. And similarly to Twitter on this part, no activity lately and no statement issued about the recasting. As for Caleb Yen, he does also still say Trailblazer in his bio. But I don't believe he's on blue sky. So all we'll take a look at is this Twitter account. And there's even less activity here, Pintweet from 2021.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Voice actors are getting replaced. I mean, I feel bad for a lot of them that are getting replaced. But the problem is that, I mean, it's the same with any type of technology. It's selfish for you to think that the entire world has to live. with a higher cost of something because you want to keep your job on life support. Nobody is entitled to having their job kept on life support through the effective welfare of the society.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And the last post, actually, from back on December 5th, 2024, let's actually return to the blue sky account for Rachel Chowdow. I found something that gives some more context. So two months ago, we got this blue sky post from Sharr that says to Rachel so glad you could find happiness and have a great day. I miss you a whole lot in Hongai Star Rail. It's kind of a niche job. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:03:44 ...requesting them to sign the interim agreement for AI protections so you and the other wonderful actors can get back to voicing our beloved characters. Check her Expedition 33 post. Let me see what she said about it. I'm actually kind of curious. Is it 250? Give me a minute. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Now, it's fine. This channel for a few months now. No, there's nothing wrong with that. Obviously, the interim agreement is a, about a lot more just air protections. That's like the whole Trojan horse thing.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, sure. Like manipulative part that a lot of people have been criticizing the VA's SAG the agreement for, to put it simply, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But I suppose I'll add on to this really quickly for anyone who may be out of the loop on this still. And essentially one of the biggest issues is that... Do you think this will trickle down to big games?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Well, I mean, Honkai Star Row is a big game. I think more and more you're going to see video games turning towards AI instead of using these actors because a lot of these actors are in these unions.
Starting point is 00:04:39 and they're asking for too much money, basically. And the problem is, like, this company doesn't want to pay them that much money. So they're trying to collectively bargain. And also, here's another big issue is that a lot of these people create PR issues for the company when they, for example, go and give, like, their political hot take on something, and then the game gets collateral damage because of it. So if you're making a video game, do you want to keep these people involved? probably not.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And these VAs and SAG are trying to flip these games, Hoyover's games and other games to be union only games, which would come with a lot of negative repercussions for VAs who are not a part of the union, such as forcing voice actors who don't want to join the union into joining the union and having to pay those members dues. Well, this is the problem with unions. And this is the issue is that, like,
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'm more pro-union than not, but unions are not infallible. And oftentimes whenever a union becomes big enough and large enough, it starts mirroring the same problems that it fights against. And I think this is an example of that. Risk being terminated from their positions, from their roles. Nevertheless, Rachel Chow responds and says, oh, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:05:52 That is really so kind and helpful of you. Hoping for good news soon, too. I guess that didn't age so well did it. Here's something really funny. So back on the subreddit Honkye StarRail and the post that we read earlier about this recasting news, you can see a top comment here says so it's like can each and genshin only new lines for now older will be replaced in the future so it'll be a mix of both vAs for now there's also lots of npcva changes not even for ean but looks like for jp also the response saying we live in hope
Starting point is 00:06:23 that this means we could still get a recast for pi mon they all want to recast her because everybody hates her and i think that's the exact reason why these companies are trying to go for the recasting. It's because they don't want to deal with some random weird SJW, like super fucking liberal, like crazy person that's going on blue sky and saying stuff that alienates their players. Who the fuck wants to deal with that? I will play the heck out of Genshin. Yeah. If they recast Pymond. Give her free runs English, VA, and I'm sold. So you can see that the people's dreams for a Pymon recast is still holding strong, still very much a lot. I think so. Maybe more
Starting point is 00:07:03 alive than ever now. An interesting point at the top about the Kniech situation and these VAs getting replaced. I do wonder if when we see the announcement of who the new VAs are for the Trailblazers and Honkai, if we'll see, just like we saw happen to Jacob Takanashi, the new VA for Kniech, that a certain click of very toxic English voice actors and sag after bootlickers and their supporters will try and harass the new VAs too, just like they did to Jacob Takanashi. They absolutely will harass them because they think they have the moral authority to do so. They think that because they are fighting for the right cause, that it's okay for them to just attack people that are not on their side. That's basically how it works. Of course, they all know very well how much backlash they got for
Starting point is 00:07:52 that situation though. So perhaps this time they won't actually do it even if they really want to. Maybe now they'll be scared of all the backlash that they will get, from the communities and the internet at large. It's really crazy how big of bullies these people are. We literally saw some VAs on Blue Sky saying that people like Jacob Takanashi deserve to be harassed even more. And saying stuff like...
Starting point is 00:08:15 Well, of course they want to harass them because that's the way that they maintain control. They want to harass and bully and attack anybody who doesn't join their union so they can collectively bargain for more money and effectively just get more out of the company. So anybody who doesn't want to put, ball with them and doesn't like what their parameters are.
Starting point is 00:08:35 They attack that person in order to keep that person out of their cry bullies. Yeah, that's what they do. It's because, and to be fair, like in their mind, like if that's their goal, that is the most effective way to achieve that goal is you have to bully and attack anybody who disagrees with you so you create a monopoly so you can control the market. That's what they're trying to do. Oh, back in the back in the good old days of unions, people. People used to get physically assaulted for being scabs and trying to make it sound like, oh, Jacob, Takanashi got off easy.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And all the fans mad at us really shouldn't be mad at all. By the way, let me also clarify something. This comment we read a moment ago that I said is a top comment is in fact the top comment in the thread. Both sorted by top and also sorted by best. Come on, Reddit. What are you doing? Because you also have, like, you have to keep in mind that like a lot of these companies are done overseas. so a lot of like the American social issues that like you know kind of intersect with all these problems
Starting point is 00:09:34 are totally non-existent at all they're totally non-existent they don't care about these issues they don't give a shit about it at all in any capacity speaking of people upset on blue sky about this news and getting mad at the fans of these games there is some stuff we'll take look at in a moment where yeah there's more people mad over on blue sky but first I bet they are Let's hop over to the Genschen Impact Subreddit. We took a look at Honkai Star Rail. Now we'll read some over on our Genshin. This post reading, the VAs for Honkai Star Rail main characters have been replaced,
Starting point is 00:10:10 which we share the VA of Gomming with. So I guess he'll be replaced soon. Hey, quick side note about that. Do you guys remember, do you guys remember when Gomming was released and people in the community were making memes about, like, gaming? Like, wow, they really released a character in a game whose name is gaming. And then you had a bunch of Twitter cops. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 We're probably now in blue sky. Yeah. saying that it's very offensive to make fun of his name. Like, you guys shouldn't be doing that. It's like racist. It's a Chinese name. Well, this is what these people always do. This is why nobody likes them and it's why they don't
Starting point is 00:10:41 get support. It's because they're constant tone policers and carins. And so whenever you see an organization of people that have collective bargaining power to be carins together taking an L, that's the big reason why they're getting a lot of like anti-support basically.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Some of the most brain rot stuff ever. To take it even further back, it was like when people were mad about the John Lee memes. Oh, you can't call Zhang Li. John Lee. That is so problematic, guys. Oh, my gosh. Now, look, really quick, as much like fun as I'll make a blue sky, which is completely justified, by the way, completely justified. Yeah. I will say, as mentioned, that I have seen some, like, actually, like, cool artists on blue sky. So I always feel bad for the people around blue sky. It just went through to, like, share art and stuff and are, like, not weird. But my gosh, man, that whole website has some serious brain rot issues.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It sure does. Like Twitter is still bad, but I'll say that it got a little bit better, maybe even more than a little bit better, because a lot of those sort of Twitter caught people did go over to blue sky. That's a bad. No, I don't think that would have mattered because the reason why the Twitter cop people went over to Blue Sky is because every time they try to be Twitter cops now, people make fun of them and just are mean to them. And that's what they deserve, by the way, is to just be made fun of and disregard. guarded and just laughed at. That's the problem. So they left Twitter because they can't compete in the free marketplace of ideas.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And so they have to go to Blue Sky instead because that way they'll be protected from anyone who disagrees with them. That's what happens. Like while the levels have bounced out a bit more on Twitter. Yeah. Community Notes was devastating for the Blue Sky community. It's like Blue Sky is completely out of balance. there's just so much, so much brain rot there. It's crazy. But going back to this Genschen
Starting point is 00:12:30 post about the VA's recasting stuff, most of the responses at the top are responding to the question about like gomming potentially getting replaced. But here's one that talks about VA stuff in general saying, what are the odds for Zach and Sarah, Ather and Lumines VAs, these being the travelers, the main characters in Genshin, to also be replaced. I would also understand if they do that, but not going to lie, I like them so much. I'd be sad if slash when that happens. Now, I don't know anything about Sarah, but I will say about Zach. I actually met him years ago completely through chance at anime expo was walking was walking he mentioned he's a voice actor for jenos on one punch man because at the time i think that was twitter is a free marketplace
Starting point is 00:13:07 of ideas it is you can put any idea out there and you don't get banned for it unless it's like an advocacy for violence and even then you usually don't get banned for it so i actually think that twitter is 100% a free marketplace of ideas i don't know why you would say it's not It's only like notable roles So it was way before Genschen That's why they hated That's why they're mad And exactly
Starting point is 00:13:29 And yeah He seemed like a pretty cool Hardworking chill dude And I'm assuming all these years later He still is I haven't really kept up with them But I can only say good things For my experience with him years ago
Starting point is 00:13:39 So I'm assuming as mentioned He still like that Point being He seems like one of the good VAs out there And I do hope this all works out for him Taking a little more of a look Through this thread Before we move on to the blue sky anger
Starting point is 00:13:49 This next comment reading I just hope they won't recast Zach him, Zhang Li, and Etow Viers are the only ones, I hope, don't get recast. If you're part of one of these unions, you're probably going to get recast sooner or later. Eventually, the company will get to a point where it will be worth it to just recast everybody from the union. And as soon as one company breaks the ice with not working with people from this union, it then makes other companies feel comfortable doing the exact same thing. And then after that, the union ceases to have any power.
Starting point is 00:14:22 that's it is like if you overstep basically and then too many people like can't work with you that it's happening especially hoyolverse yeah hoyovirce is like one of the biggest companies too on reading apparently we have reached a found out portion of fofo it's wandering waves doesn't work with american voice actors because of this is that true wait is that actually true uh is not significantly impacted by american voice actors guild because it utilizes primarily british voice actors well there you go they're all English yep too I do enjoy the current
Starting point is 00:14:59 swatch of ENVAs I really do but at this point the game has been the thing is though it's like it's so funny because like I think about the voice acting for some of these other games and then I feel like all of these like really well-known voice actors and like in like this community just get totally
Starting point is 00:15:16 bodied by some random guy who's like a theater actor somewhere in Europe playing Egon and LD ring shadow of the urge. Like this guy just totally fucking just came out of nowhere. Who is this fucking guy? And he just, it's not even remotely
Starting point is 00:15:34 close. Veild. Jig is up. Everyone knows the truth about the strike and it's real goal. And I'm frankly, yeah, I hope Ben Starr one day. He's becoming the Sean Bean of voice actors
Starting point is 00:15:47 and like video game like actors is that like inside of every single game, it's like the end of it. It's not very good for him. I'm tired of having my game enjoyment held hostage by people who should have quite frankly known better. And another comment wanting Pymond to get recast reading, I hope they can now also recast the white flying turd we have flying right next to us.
Starting point is 00:16:10 That takes us over to this exchange back on Twitter where a Genshin YouTuber said, I really wish there was a better outcome for the English Jaze situation. But as soon as Hoyo started replacing people, it was evident that they were fighting a losing battle. Yes. Response reading, it is that Genshin and other Hoyover's games aren't even affected by the strike in the first place. No. The English VAs chose not to record because they wanted higher payments or something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:34 With someone else saying it's much more complicated than that. And then a different user responding saying, no, it's not. I don't know about that. Sag actors do what Sag does and strike because of AI, quote unquote, when in reality they want absolute control over Mahoyo projects. They hide behind a facade of AI protections. Hoya already respects AI protections and Raleigh, They only respect AI protections because they have to right now. The moment that they don't have to, they won't. If you actually think any of these companies are going to willfully lose money in order to not have AI, you are delusional.
Starting point is 00:17:11 When their lives were uncovered, the higher ups at SAG conveniently started enforcing their global rule one. Union actors cannot work on union projects. You mean on non-union projects, I think, but continuing. holding the VAs that do want to go back to work hostage. It's not that complicated. The SAG VAs just tell you it's complicated to have you feel pity for SAG when in fact they are the problem. Another response to the initial tweet reading,
Starting point is 00:17:38 Who was fighting a losing battle? This is SAG's attempt a strong arm a foreign company to comply with the scummiest contract I've ever seen. That's exactly. Ho-O-VERS has been incredibly patient with the strike. If anyone is fighting a losing battle, it's SAG. Hoyo isn't going to budge. That seemed that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They don't need to because time is on their side and so is the audience. The audience cares more about the characters than they do about the voice actors, obviously. Because the character, like, it would be more if, like, for example, like, in a lot of, like, AAA games, you have, like, you know, for example, like people are saying Ben Star, right? Like, Clive looks kind of like Ben Star. Verso looks kind of like Ben Star. And so there's more of a connection to the actor. but like in a lot of these gotcha games it's so disconnected that people don't make that connection at all upset someone else as they say let's defend the billion dollar company together guys let's go to which that other user responds saying if you actually read into it in a situation
Starting point is 00:18:37 way over people know him is in the right this is something that we've discussed a number of times in the past two how sag after and a number of the union vAs have come off so unlikable that people are actually defending the corporation in this example that's crazy something that is very rare but that sag after and a number of the union vAs have come off so unlikeable that people are actually defending the corporation in this example that's crazy something that is very rare but that SAG after and those VA's managed to accomplish through how unlikeable they are. Congratulations. We'll take a look at a few more examples here. This one's saying it was revealed by Rio's VA that it was just the VA's own volition to strike in hopes of getting Hoyo to sign that for better treatment.
Starting point is 00:19:06 The better treatment being the agreement that's really, you know, bad agreement for Wayover is a badgering on UNYAs. It was a group effort done by them, the union VA's rather than being orchestrated by SAG after us. I don't know how. I'd argue some people do care about voice actors. I think that people do care about it, but the problem is that when you have voice actors,
Starting point is 00:19:24 and this is an issue with all entertainment media, is that most people don't really respect entertainment media in a big way, because they view it as a luxury profession. So when people complain about it, they don't get as much sympathy as when like a firefighter is complaining or like a nurse is complaining.
Starting point is 00:19:44 That's just how it is. You're referring to this action as a collective work. Yeah, exactly. The current video gets. game strike, the official one by Saga Aftera, is against a number of major Western gaming companies. According to my recollection, companies such as electronic arts, Warner Brothers, etc., etc. Now, it does seem like Saga After is involved on some level, aside from just having their members involved with the collective work refusal against Hoyover's games, as we have seen them
Starting point is 00:20:12 trying to act as a mediator, a middleman of sorts with getting the work refusal's demands sent over to Hoyover's and asking Hoyover's to sign said Demand. Are you a streamers bitches about something? Yeah, streamers are a great example. Like whenever some streamer gives like a political opinion, like even like me or Hassan, people always are like shut the fuck up. You're a streamer. You don't know what you're talking about. And it's the same with like, remember when Pokeyame was talking about like Eat the Rich and everybody got mad at her. Like people just don't want to hear that from
Starting point is 00:20:40 people in entertainment. They don't want to hear that and it's very annoying and off-putting. some people speculate that they have more involvement some less but actually from what we have seen there are at the very least trying to get this whole like contract forwarded and signed by hoia ultimately whatever the case may or may not be it is still important to remember that sag is a union built by its members so by default by talking about sag after uh you are still also talking about its members some people try to draw like a very clear distinction between the union and the vAs
Starting point is 00:21:14 but the union is made up of the VAs. Now, if we go into further detail, of course, there's like a hierarchy, so to speak, with some members not having much involvement. Maybe they just vote here and there. Others are bringing in significant amount of money
Starting point is 00:21:28 and get things like health care benefits, but around 85% of members, according to my recollection, don't qualify for the minimum income to get benefits. What a surprise. So there's like varying degrees here, of course. I mean, it's a huge union. It's not surprising.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And then there's people who are voted in to have like these executive positions at the union and whatnot. Yeah. Regardless, though, it is ultimately made up of the members. And some of those are actors, some voice actors. You get the point. What's interesting is when you see lots of people trying to put all the blame on SAG after itself
Starting point is 00:21:56 and act like the VAs are all innocent when, as we just discussed. This is it. This guy is fucking based. Not higher payment. They want to create a monopoly disguised as AI protection. Yeah. They want to make sure that they are the gatekeepers for anybody trying to get a job inside of this space and work on games that they're involved in
Starting point is 00:22:14 because that's what's best for them. Obviously, that's what they're going to do. And furthermore, as you can see here and elsewhere on the internet, such as Reddit, etc., etc., some people try and cite Erica, the VA for Venti, as proof that SAG is forcing VAs to do certain things and that they don't have free will of their own. For example, this comment that reads,
Starting point is 00:22:35 FIAs that are part of the EU. I know a lot of people know this, but like SAG stands for Screen Actors Guild. it's a really, really big union here in the U.S. And it's what a lot of people in entertainment are a part of in order to get better deals. And could get blacklisted by SAG. Yeah, in case anybody doesn't know that.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Fentis VA confirmed they are being sent threatening emails by the union. There's a lot more to it, but yeah, VAs are not to mean people to blame. Well, in some cases, they are. In some cases, VAs have outspokenly bootlicked for the union and harassed people like Jacob Taganashi. In such cases, absolutely the VAs are also to blame. because they're enabling the predatory behavior going on at SAGAFTA and harassing people who would stand up to SAGAFRA. And this is something that has also happened to Vente's VA.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So I find it kind of messed up actually that this person is mentioning Erica here, the VA for Ventee, but only mentioning the threatening letters part because it helps their argument. Yeah. As they try to paint all the VAs out as like innocent, when Vente's VA Erica actually got harassed by other VAs on blue sky when she began to expose SAG. And those FAs were even saying things like Erica deserves to get those letters and they were trying to downplay them being like, oh, the letters aren't threatening. This is just what happens. Erica deserves this.
Starting point is 00:23:48 So give Erica. Keep this in mind every time that they act like victims. This is what I've said before is that a lot of these people love to throw shit. But the moment that they get any shit, now they're crying. This is the reason why I don't have any sympathy for anybody who's being critical and hostile online. is that like and then because like they'll always cry and they'll be like oh i'm being harassed damn that's crazy wow wow really okay the credit that she deserves for going up against the corrupt vAs and their corrupt union
Starting point is 00:24:31 and stop enabling the predatory behavior all right now let's get some blue sky anger we got this post that says i've been hearing murmurings that the english voices for stelle and calis and honk i star right it's a furry of course course it's a fucking furry. What is surprise? Yep. Have been recast. Regardless of whether that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Who could have guessed? I just need to reiterate my disappointment in the fandom response. That's so many people are so ghoulish as to not care about the livelihoods of the VAs that literally give voice to the main characters of their favorite game because how dare they have to play
Starting point is 00:25:09 a game for a few months missing some voice acting. I mean, that's part of it, but you're also ignoring how people just didn't like being manipulated. You don't, it's not like, just stop doing this thing where you keep trying to guilt trip the customer. Stop trying to make the customer write checks on your behalf. It's just so annoying. When streamers do it, a voice actor does it, an actor does it, and a game developer does it, stop blaming the customer. If you are delivering a product and the product that the person is receiving is not what they want it to be.
Starting point is 00:25:44 They have every right to be frustrated. That's the way it is. This isn't some kind of fucking relationship. It's a transaction. Stop trying to emotionally manipulate people just because you think that they're supposed to care about you. You're selling a product. You are the product.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Jesus. And what they're trying to do to Hoyo and non-UJuez. It's funny how this is so often left out by people who are trying to always defendants. defend the strike and sag they are mindless petulant black holes of content consumption and I can't stay it won't make a difference but I won't be giving Hoyo any more of my time it's time to drop Honkai Star Rail and all of Mahoyo's other games you can see they open I really want to go back to this
Starting point is 00:26:33 person's account in a year and I want to see if that's true because I don't think it's fucking true with their rage post here with a really gross analogy and then go on to say quote just a little bit of a feeling you not on quote if you don't get bent so are they just defending sag there is that what they're trying to like get at i guess yeah quote they aren't grateful on quote dude it's a job you know the thing neither of us have and then they get really mad at this post in particular looks like it's from reddit where this person says hoyo has shown more patience than nearly other companies yeah who would fire anyone not working especially when there is no efficient
Starting point is 00:27:12 union strike against any Hoyo games. It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but I'm not surprised by the decision. They're all getting replaced by AI. This is going to be bad. I think that you're going to have, like, you're going to have 80% of voice acting in games
Starting point is 00:27:26 in probably 5 to 10 years that are done with AI. After all being on voiced for so long, response reading, especially since the Kankai's a game with eight hours story patch, every patch.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They don't have the cards. It genuinely hurts their whole game because it's, ruined some people's immersion on the story. They simply can't wait any longer since we're closing on the ending of the first half of amorphorus. Actually, that's Amphorius, I think,
Starting point is 00:27:52 my bad. They close their rant by saying I don't write about games much anymore except for my own blogs. Because you got negative feedback because people don't like what you're saying. That's the reason why. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. I feel okay making fun of these people. well i mean all we really got out of this is that you're defending a corrupt union so congratulations i guess but look at this elsewhere on blue sky there were some people actually defending oyovers for example this person says uh at this point voice actors getting recast like that in hoyo games don't feel so surprising it just feels so hurtful that they can just throw people away like that all they want is protection is it that hard sigh once again we know they want a lot more than that but this response says what could have happened when you're to work for no valid and official reason. Yeah, if you stop doing your job, the thing is that collective bargaining goes both ways. If you say, I'm not going to do my job unless you give me more money, the company also has the right to say, okay, we're not going to give you more money.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It's not like you just invoke this every time you want more money and they just have to give you more money. That's not how it works. As much as I didn't want it to happen, they withheld work. It was bound to happen. Jesus. It's been ridiculous to not have the main character voiced since 2.6, four patches. I'm not celebrating them losing the roles, but I am happy to finally have the character voiced again. No hate their way or the new VAs.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, of course. Ignoring the fact that most video games went on voice slash minimal vane back in the day, just so you can rip on people's livelihoods is real rich. Bro, this person was so respectful about it, and this guy is still getting, like, was still getting like enraged like seething over it. Oh God. Oh my gosh, it gets worse. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I hope you lose your job to AI one day and I hope AI prevents you from finding another one. Holy smokes, dude. Do you think this is a byproduct of the protest culture that's come about in the last 10 years? Yeah, I think that we have a big protest culture because people are bored. They're bored
Starting point is 00:30:02 and they have no meaning so they have to find different social causes to attach to themselves to so they can feel better about the fact that they live an absolute privilege in the greatest time in history, and they share some form of guilt for it. That's the reason why. They're always so like mad and weird sounding, man. Yep. What are you on about? I know you aren't talking about the strike against meho. And back in the day, my guy, the strike hasn't even passed a year. I know critical thinking is hard for kids these days,
Starting point is 00:30:31 but we can't hold your hand through it anymore. Not that I expect much from a selfish redacted. bro are you stupid you didn't even make take your meds yeah bro get like get help this is crazy go ahead and reread what I wrote where these people come from that actually is relevant to what I said
Starting point is 00:30:51 instead of digging up insults you don't one last thing we'll take a look at here do you remember months back near the beginning of this whole situation when a number of VAs went to to redid to try and defend sag after and the strike by continuing to spread a false narrative to which people
Starting point is 00:31:08 on Reddit called them out. Some simply asking questions and these VAs responded by either dodging and not answering and or blocking people or giving like manipulative lies as a response to which they got mass downvoted. Well, we'll take a look at this comment from two months ago really quick and you'll see why in a second. Reads, they can't see it on blue sky. I asked a few of them to clarify and they called me names. Said I was anti-worker and pro billion dollar company and blocked me. Kit Harrison, Cher Kirby both did since I was replying to a thread where they were both then. Blue Sky is the greatest a safe space for the vileness of Twitter, but I think a lot of people treat it more like a blog than social media.
Starting point is 00:31:46 The reason we're taking a look at this again is because... The reason Blue Sky is simply a safe space for people that can't handle Twitter. And it's also dying. Blue Sky, however popular you thought Blue Sky was, it's becoming less popular every week and every month because the only reason why it exists is to basically be some kind of oppositional force against Trump and eventually people lose interest in that. And this is also another big component is that as a voice actor, for example, Andy Circus or Ben Starr, both people that were in Expedition 33, one of the reasons why these guys get cast is because people know who they are.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And it's like, oh, it's this guy, right? So a lot of people are doing themselves a big disservice by moving over to Blue Sky because they're handicapping their growth as a content creator and if your growth is built around popularity and you leave the place that's giving you popularity well you're going to have a pretty bad fucking time thinking of a number of the vAs who were on Reddit trying to defend the strike and what stuff and i did recall kit harrison so i went over to blue sky to kit harrison's account to see if he had anything to say about the recent recasts and there actually wasn't anything that I saw doesn't seem like he's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But there is one thing that I thought was rather interesting and give some insight onto the VA work. That being this post where he talks about money. The context is, he says two days ago, was driving home yesterday and a pheasant flew headlong into my wing mirror from the side. Heck of a shock.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You shouldn't dwell on these things, but if I was driving at any different speed, it would have been way, way worse. Watch out for low-flying birds, kids. First of all Why was he riding in a windmill? Bro, sucks what happened to your car. But that takes us to
Starting point is 00:33:39 the quote that he made of that post where he adds onto it saying Argue, 75 euros for a new wing mirror and 450 euros for a new door window. Anyone need circa one hour of high quality voice acting. So you're telling me
Starting point is 00:33:54 these guys actually get paid. This guy trying to get paid what is close to $600 USD for an hour of voice acting. and no offense to this guy but he's not exactly a household name doesn't exactly $600 an hour
Starting point is 00:34:11 um yeah guys uh yeah ah man yeah I think I can see why they're using AI we have like a big credit list here and still wants
Starting point is 00:34:30 like 600 USD around for an hour around an hour around an hour of VA work? Is that really what these people are trying to charge? Yeah. That's just crazy, in my opinion. So yeah, please let me know what you guys think about that. Am I reading that wrong?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Or is he really trying to charge like 600, just about 600 USD for an hour of VA work? I don't think voice actors are really rich and it's not really like they have some kind of like crazy super, you know, fucking like high overpaid job. But the problem is that nowadays, especially when you have and you have the same thing with streamers, right? streamers talking about like losing ad revenue wow there's a streamer that showed their ad revenue and last
Starting point is 00:35:08 month they made $18,000 and this month they're only going to make $12,000. Oh my God. Can somebody please, you know, can we start to go fund me so they don't go homeless? They're going to have to go be a mailman now. It's just like really. And the problem is that I think that people don't realize that especially on the internet, you're communicating to an audience of people that is global. So even if you think $12,000 isn't a lot of money every month, which I mean, in some places, like a couple of places at least, it's really not a lot of money every month, like San Francisco, for example. You know, if you're looking at it from the perspective of a Chinese person maybe,
Starting point is 00:35:47 or, you know, maybe somebody who lives in a European country that is a much lower standard of living, then you're going to have a totally different viewpoint on this. Yeah, you're talking to people. Yeah, basically, you're talking to people that are making $15 an hour. complaining about making $600 an hour. That's not going to go very well. It's not. And it takes me back to really quick to something I covered months ago where there was the,
Starting point is 00:36:16 oh, what was that creepy pasta thing? Ben drowned, I think. Yeah, the creator Ben drowned put out an ad for like needing some background voices and a bunch of people on Twitter were mad with what he was trying to pay, asking for like hundreds of dollars just to say a few lines. And that sounds so crazy then. but apparently yeah these people really do think they should get like paid hundreds for a few lines or like 600 for an hour yeah if these people think that they're going to get paid hundreds of dollars for this in the long term i think that they're delusional
Starting point is 00:36:45 like ai is going to totally replace this shit and it's not even going to be close i don't know man i don't know i don't think it's a great look but maybe i'm reading it wrong i don't think i am but if i am let me know what you think about all this stuff including that little bonus at the end little a little insight into the VA stuff here yep hope you enjoyed the coverage if you did please consider i figured i've watched this video because i have covered this drama for a while rest of your week and i'll see you in the comments as well as in the next one i didn't know they're adding ultron i just recently saw that so uh i do think it's really funny to see this happen and uh i think it's going to happen with more different companies and i think also one of the reasons why there's a
Starting point is 00:37:26 lingering animosity of the voice actors. The reason why is because the voice actors and a lot of people that worked in tech, they were the ones that were the biggest farmers and the biggest pushers of learn the code or some other form of dismissive language when white collar or sorry, blue collar workers lost their jobs to automation. And so now these same people are the victims of automation themselves. And there's nobody left to complain or cry about them. because nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So that's it. And at least it could be a common guy with an AI voice changer. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And if you heard about the smash community drama, apparently they killed someone and the person who exposed them got the video, false flag, got re-uploaded.
Starting point is 00:38:10 No, I don't know about that. Sounds pretty heavy. I'll probably wait until tomorrow until I cover that because of just how extreme it sounds. So, yeah, that's at least the way I see about it. And it's fair. I don't know what you remember by that. But yeah, actually they learned a code
Starting point is 00:38:25 and now AI has turned me into a monster? Well, yeah, of course. I mean, like a lot of people, the thing is that a lot of people that are smart are going to be able to use AI as a multiplier for their efforts. But the issue is that for voice actors and certain people,
Starting point is 00:38:39 they're going to get replaced by AI because the fact is that AI will replace the bottom 80% of performers. And just by the numbers, most people are in the bottom 80%. That's what the 80% means. and so most people are going to end up getting replaced coders and this has happened like how many of you guys have had an element of your job that has been replaced by AI in one way or another how many of you guys have that happened i have yes of course right and so like you have and so i got laid off yeah right and so like there's a there's a component of it where it's being used in AI and i think this is what's going to happen in a lot of cases and it's going to happen more and more and more and you can't you can't stop this from happening. You can't make this go away. It's just going to keep getting
Starting point is 00:39:32 worse and worse. And I think the problem that a lot of people have with these voice actors is that you have this double speak where it's okay that some people lose their jobs to AI or automation or some form of technology, but it's not okay that they lose their job. And I think that's the big issue that a lot of people have. And that's the reason why they're frustrated more than anything else, right?

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