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This is actually insane.
The voice actor community is actually dying.
They're firing people.
They're getting replaced by AI.
And it's happening over here on the subreddit for Honkai StarRail.
That being a Hoyover's game for those who don't know.
We've got the title.
Calis and Stel have been officially recasted.
These are, by the way, the main characters of Honkai StarRail.
Honkai StarRail is one of and in some months is the biggest gotcha game in the entire world.
It is a massive fucking game.
It's huge.
Version 3.3.
Now, as you guys know, I do play Genshin, but I don't actually play Honkai, so I'd like to get some additional context here at Ghosu gamers.net.
We'll just spend like 30 seconds reading the key areas here at the top where they say Honkai StarRel version 3.3, the fall of dawn's rise, dropped on Wednesday, May 21st, with two new five-star characters in Hyacine and Cypher, Hyakene, and Cypher, as well as tons of other editions.
However, the update also featured a surprising change as the voice actors for the game's main character, the Trailblazer, have been replaced.
Man-Hanthi Starail players embark on an interstellar journey as the male or female version of the Trailblazer, commonly known by their canon names Salas and Salas.
Caelus, excuse me.
Yep.
Since the games launched in April 2023, the Trailblazer has been voiced by Caleb Yen, Caylus, and Rachel Chow, Stel.
So this is basically like the...
These are the main people.
The Traveler engine.
Let's take a look and see if the voice.
actors who got recast have issued any statement on this yet hopping over to Twitter first for
rachel chow we can see the bio does still say the NBA for stelle and scrolling down there is nothing
as of May 5th that's the latest post but her pin tweet does say making the jump follow me on blue sky
at the same handle chow for now i'll keep is blue sky a suicide cult for your career because i'm
starting to feel like it is yeah this is unbelievable how does this keep happening
yield Twitter up so you can find me and to protect this glorious handle.
All right, hopping over to a blue sky.
Yep.
We can see Rachel Chow is also here.
But interestingly enough, on Blue Sky, her username is a little bit different,
including she they in the username.
Interesting because on Twitter she put she they in the bio,
but over here it's in the title.
I don't know.
Is that a Blue Sky thing or something?
I have no idea.
Yeah, I don't know.
But the bio does still say ENVA of Stell and Hong Guy Starrail.
And similarly to Twitter on this part,
no activity lately and no statement issued about the recasting.
As for Caleb Yen, he does also still say Trailblazer in his bio.
But I don't believe he's on blue sky.
So all we'll take a look at is this Twitter account.
And there's even less activity here, Pintweet from 2021.
Voice actors are getting replaced.
I mean, I feel bad for a lot of them that are getting replaced.
But the problem is that, I mean, it's the same with any type of technology.
It's selfish for you to think that the entire world has to live.
with a higher cost of something
because you want to keep your job on life support.
Nobody is entitled to having their job kept on life support
through the effective welfare of the society.
And the last post, actually, from back on December 5th, 2024,
let's actually return to the blue sky account for Rachel Chowdow.
I found something that gives some more context.
So two months ago, we got this blue sky post
from Sharr that says to Rachel so glad you could find happiness and have a great day.
I miss you a whole lot in Hongai Star Rail.
It's kind of a niche job.
Yeah, it is.
...requesting them to sign the interim agreement for AI protections so you and the other
wonderful actors can get back to voicing our beloved characters.
Check her Expedition 33 post.
Let me see what she said about it.
I'm actually kind of curious.
Is it 250?
Give me a minute.
Okay.
Now, it's fine.
This channel for a few months now.
No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Obviously, the interim agreement is a,
about a lot more
just air protections.
That's like the whole
Trojan horse thing.
Yeah, sure.
Like manipulative part
that a lot of people
have been criticizing
the VA's SAG
the agreement for,
to put it simply,
of course.
But I suppose I'll add on
to this really quickly
for anyone who may be
out of the loop on this still.
And essentially one of the biggest issues
is that...
Do you think this will trickle down
to big games?
Well, I mean,
Honkai Star Row is a big game.
I think more and more
you're going to see video games
turning towards AI
instead of using these actors
because a lot of these actors
are in these unions.
and they're asking for too much money, basically.
And the problem is, like, this company doesn't want to pay them that much money.
So they're trying to collectively bargain.
And also, here's another big issue is that a lot of these people create PR issues for the company
when they, for example, go and give, like, their political hot take on something,
and then the game gets collateral damage because of it.
So if you're making a video game, do you want to keep these people involved?
probably not.
And these VAs and SAG are trying to flip these games,
Hoyover's games and other games to be union only games,
which would come with a lot of negative repercussions
for VAs who are not a part of the union,
such as forcing voice actors who don't want to join the union
into joining the union and having to pay those members dues.
Well, this is the problem with unions.
And this is the issue is that, like,
I'm more pro-union than not,
but unions are not infallible.
And oftentimes whenever a union becomes big enough
and large enough, it starts mirroring the same problems that it fights against.
And I think this is an example of that.
Risk being terminated from their positions, from their roles.
Nevertheless, Rachel Chow responds and says,
oh, thank you so much.
That is really so kind and helpful of you.
Hoping for good news soon, too.
I guess that didn't age so well did it.
Here's something really funny.
So back on the subreddit Honkye StarRail and the post that we read earlier about this recasting news,
you can see a top comment here says so it's like can each and genshin only new lines for now
older will be replaced in the future so it'll be a mix of both vAs for now there's also lots of
npcva changes not even for ean but looks like for jp also the response saying we live in hope
that this means we could still get a recast for pi mon they all want to recast her because everybody
hates her and i think that's the exact reason why these companies are trying to go for the
recasting. It's because they don't want to deal with some random weird SJW, like super fucking
liberal, like crazy person that's going on blue sky and saying stuff that alienates their players.
Who the fuck wants to deal with that?
I will play the heck out of Genshin. Yeah.
If they recast Pymond. Give her free runs English, VA, and I'm sold. So you can see that the people's
dreams for a Pymon recast is still holding strong, still very much a lot. I think so. Maybe more
alive than ever now. An interesting point at the top about the Kniech situation and these VAs getting
replaced. I do wonder if when we see the announcement of who the new VAs are for the Trailblazers
and Honkai, if we'll see, just like we saw happen to Jacob Takanashi, the new VA for Kniech,
that a certain click of very toxic English voice actors and sag after bootlickers and their supporters
will try and harass the new VAs too, just like they did to Jacob Takanashi. They absolutely will
harass them because they think they have the moral authority to do so. They think that because they are
fighting for the right cause, that it's okay for them to just attack people that are not on their side.
That's basically how it works. Of course, they all know very well how much backlash they got for
that situation though. So perhaps this time they won't actually do it even if they really want to.
Maybe now they'll be scared of all the backlash that they will get,
from the communities and the internet at large.
It's really crazy how big of bullies these people are.
We literally saw some VAs on Blue Sky
saying that people like Jacob Takanashi
deserve to be harassed even more.
And saying stuff like...
Well, of course they want to harass them
because that's the way that they maintain control.
They want to harass and bully and attack
anybody who doesn't join their union
so they can collectively bargain for more money
and effectively just get more out of the company.
So anybody who doesn't want to put,
ball with them and doesn't like what their parameters are.
They attack that person in order to keep that person out of their cry bullies.
Yeah, that's what they do.
It's because, and to be fair, like in their mind, like if that's their goal, that is the
most effective way to achieve that goal is you have to bully and attack anybody who disagrees
with you so you create a monopoly so you can control the market.
That's what they're trying to do.
Oh, back in the back in the good old days of unions, people.
People used to get physically assaulted for being scabs and trying to make it sound like, oh, Jacob, Takanashi got off easy.
And all the fans mad at us really shouldn't be mad at all.
By the way, let me also clarify something.
This comment we read a moment ago that I said is a top comment is in fact the top comment in the thread.
Both sorted by top and also sorted by best.
Come on, Reddit.
What are you doing?
Because you also have, like, you have to keep in mind that like a lot of these companies are done overseas.
so a lot of like the American social issues that like you know kind of intersect with all these problems
are totally non-existent at all they're totally non-existent they don't care about these issues
they don't give a shit about it at all in any capacity speaking of people upset on blue sky
about this news and getting mad at the fans of these games there is some stuff we'll take
look at in a moment where yeah there's more people mad over on blue sky but first I bet they are
Let's hop over to the Genschen Impact Subreddit.
We took a look at Honkai Star Rail.
Now we'll read some over on our Genshin.
This post reading, the VAs for Honkai Star Rail main characters have been replaced,
which we share the VA of Gomming with.
So I guess he'll be replaced soon.
Hey, quick side note about that.
Do you guys remember, do you guys remember when Gomming was released
and people in the community were making memes about, like, gaming?
Like, wow, they really released a character in a game whose name is gaming.
And then you had a bunch of Twitter cops.
I remember that.
We're probably now in blue sky.
Yeah.
saying that it's very offensive to make
fun of his name. Like, you guys
shouldn't be doing that. It's
like racist. It's a Chinese name.
Well, this is what these people always do.
This is why nobody likes them and it's why they don't
get support. It's because they're constant
tone policers and carins.
And so whenever you see an organization
of people that have collective bargaining
power to be carins together
taking an L,
that's the big reason why they're getting
a lot of like anti-support basically.
Some of the most brain
rot stuff ever. To take it even further back, it was like when people were mad about the
John Lee memes. Oh, you can't call Zhang Li. John Lee. That is so problematic, guys. Oh, my gosh.
Now, look, really quick, as much like fun as I'll make a blue sky, which is completely justified,
by the way, completely justified. Yeah. I will say, as mentioned, that I have seen some, like,
actually, like, cool artists on blue sky. So I always feel bad for the people around blue sky.
It just went through to, like, share art and stuff and are, like, not weird. But my gosh, man,
that whole website has some serious brain rot issues.
It sure does.
Like Twitter is still bad, but I'll say that it got a little bit better, maybe even more than a little bit better, because a lot of those sort of Twitter caught people did go over to blue sky.
That's a bad.
No, I don't think that would have mattered because the reason why the Twitter cop people went over to Blue Sky is because every time they try to be Twitter cops now, people make fun of them and just are mean to them.
And that's what they deserve, by the way, is to just be made fun of and disregard.
guarded and just laughed at.
That's the problem.
So they left Twitter because they can't compete in the free marketplace of ideas.
And so they have to go to Blue Sky instead because that way they'll be protected from anyone
who disagrees with them.
That's what happens.
Like while the levels have bounced out a bit more on Twitter.
Yeah.
Community Notes was devastating for the Blue Sky community.
It's like Blue Sky is completely out of balance.
there's just so much, so much brain rot there. It's crazy. But going back to this Genschen
post about the VA's recasting stuff, most of the responses at the top are responding to the
question about like gomming potentially getting replaced. But here's one that talks about
VA stuff in general saying, what are the odds for Zach and Sarah, Ather and Lumines VAs, these
being the travelers, the main characters in Genshin, to also be replaced. I would also understand
if they do that, but not going to lie, I like them so much. I'd be sad if slash when that happens.
Now, I don't know anything about Sarah, but I will say about Zach. I actually
met him years ago completely through chance at anime expo was walking was walking he mentioned
he's a voice actor for jenos on one punch man because at the time i think that was twitter is a free marketplace
of ideas it is you can put any idea out there and you don't get banned for it unless it's like
an advocacy for violence and even then you usually don't get banned for it so i actually think that
twitter is 100% a free marketplace of ideas i don't know why you would say it's not
It's only like notable roles
So it was way before Genschen
That's why they hated
That's why they're mad
And exactly
And yeah
He seemed like a pretty cool
Hardworking chill dude
And I'm assuming all these years later
He still is
I haven't really kept up with them
But I can only say good things
For my experience with him years ago
So I'm assuming as mentioned
He still like that
Point being
He seems like one of the good VAs out there
And I do hope this all works out for him
Taking a little more of a look
Through this thread
Before we move on to the blue sky anger
This next comment reading
I just hope they won't recast Zach
him, Zhang Li, and Etow Viers are the only ones, I hope, don't get recast.
If you're part of one of these unions, you're probably going to get recast sooner or later.
Eventually, the company will get to a point where it will be worth it to just recast everybody from the union.
And as soon as one company breaks the ice with not working with people from this union,
it then makes other companies feel comfortable doing the exact same thing.
And then after that, the union ceases to have any power.
that's it is like if you overstep basically and then too many people like can't work with you
that it's happening especially hoyolverse yeah hoyovirce is like one of the biggest companies too
on reading apparently we have reached a found out portion of fofo it's wandering waves doesn't
work with american voice actors because of this is that true wait is that actually true uh is not
significantly impacted by american voice actors guild because it utilizes primarily british voice actors
well there you go
they're all English yep
too I do enjoy the current
swatch of ENVAs
I really do but at this point the game has been
the thing is though it's like it's so funny
because like I think about the voice acting
for some of these other games
and then I feel like all of these like really
well-known voice actors and like in like this
community just get totally
bodied by some random guy
who's like a theater actor somewhere in Europe
playing Egon and LD
ring shadow of the urge.
Like this guy just totally
fucking just came out of nowhere.
Who is this fucking guy?
And he just, it's not even remotely
close.
Veild.
Jig is up.
Everyone knows the truth about the strike and it's real
goal.
And I'm frankly,
yeah, I hope Ben Starr one day.
He's becoming the Sean Bean of voice actors
and like video game
like actors is that like
inside of every single game,
it's like the end of it.
It's not very good for him.
I'm tired of having my game enjoyment held hostage by people who should have quite frankly known better.
And another comment wanting Pymond to get recast reading,
I hope they can now also recast the white flying turd we have flying right next to us.
That takes us over to this exchange back on Twitter where a Genshin YouTuber said,
I really wish there was a better outcome for the English Jaze situation.
But as soon as Hoyo started replacing people,
it was evident that they were fighting a losing battle.
Yes.
Response reading,
it is that Genshin and other Hoyover's games aren't even affected by the strike in the first place.
No. The English VAs chose not to record because they wanted higher payments or something like that.
With someone else saying it's much more complicated than that.
And then a different user responding saying, no, it's not.
I don't know about that.
Sag actors do what Sag does and strike because of AI, quote unquote, when in reality they want absolute control over Mahoyo projects.
They hide behind a facade of AI protections. Hoya already respects AI protections and Raleigh,
They only respect AI protections because they have to right now.
The moment that they don't have to, they won't.
If you actually think any of these companies are going to willfully lose money in order to not have AI, you are delusional.
When their lives were uncovered, the higher ups at SAG conveniently started enforcing their global rule one.
Union actors cannot work on union projects.
You mean on non-union projects, I think, but continuing.
holding the VAs that do want to go back to work hostage.
It's not that complicated.
The SAG VAs just tell you it's complicated to have you feel pity for SAG
when in fact they are the problem.
Another response to the initial tweet reading,
Who was fighting a losing battle?
This is SAG's attempt a strong arm a foreign company
to comply with the scummiest contract I've ever seen.
That's exactly.
Ho-O-VERS has been incredibly patient with the strike.
If anyone is fighting a losing battle, it's SAG.
Hoyo isn't going to budge.
That seemed that.
They don't need to because time is on their side and so is the audience.
The audience cares more about the characters than they do about the voice actors, obviously.
Because the character, like, it would be more if, like, for example, like, in a lot of, like, AAA games, you have, like, you know, for example, like people are saying Ben Star, right?
Like, Clive looks kind of like Ben Star.
Verso looks kind of like Ben Star.
And so there's more of a connection to the actor.
but like in a lot of these gotcha games it's so disconnected that people don't make that connection at all
upset someone else as they say let's defend the billion dollar company together guys let's go to which that other user responds saying if you actually read into it in a situation
way over people know him is in the right this is something that we've discussed a number of times in the past two
how sag after and a number of the union vAs have come off so unlikable that people are actually defending the corporation in this example
that's crazy something that is very rare but that sag after and a number of the union vAs have come off so unlikeable that people are actually defending the corporation in this example that's crazy something that is very rare but that
SAG after and those VA's managed to accomplish through how unlikeable they are.
Congratulations.
We'll take a look at a few more examples here.
This one's saying it was revealed by Rio's VA that it was just the VA's own volition
to strike in hopes of getting Hoyo to sign that for better treatment.
The better treatment being the agreement that's really, you know, bad agreement for
Wayover is a badgering on UNYAs.
It was a group effort done by them, the union VA's rather than being orchestrated by SAG
after us.
I don't know how.
I'd argue some people do care about voice actors.
I think that people do care about it,
but the problem is that when you have voice actors,
and this is an issue with all entertainment media,
is that most people don't really respect entertainment media
in a big way,
because they view it as a luxury profession.
So when people complain about it,
they don't get as much sympathy
as when like a firefighter is complaining
or like a nurse is complaining.
That's just how it is.
You're referring to this action as a collective work.
Yeah, exactly.
The current video gets.
game strike, the official one by Saga Aftera, is against a number of major Western gaming companies.
According to my recollection, companies such as electronic arts, Warner Brothers, etc., etc.
Now, it does seem like Saga After is involved on some level, aside from just having their
members involved with the collective work refusal against Hoyover's games, as we have seen them
trying to act as a mediator, a middleman of sorts with getting the work refusal's demands
sent over to Hoyover's
and asking Hoyover's to sign said
Demand. Are you a streamers bitches about something? Yeah, streamers are a great example.
Like whenever some streamer gives like a political opinion, like even like me or
Hassan, people always are like shut the fuck up. You're a streamer. You don't know what you're
talking about. And it's the same with like, remember when Pokeyame was talking about like
Eat the Rich and everybody got mad at her. Like people just don't want to hear that from
people in entertainment. They don't want to hear that and it's very annoying and off-putting.
some people speculate that they have more involvement some less
but actually from what we have seen
there are at the very least trying to get this whole like contract forwarded
and signed by hoia ultimately whatever the case may or may not be
it is still important to remember that sag is a union built by its members
so by default by talking about sag after uh you are still also talking about its members
some people try to draw like a very clear distinction between the union and the vAs
but the union is made up of the VAs.
Now, if we go into further detail,
of course,
there's like a hierarchy,
so to speak,
with some members not having much involvement.
Maybe they just vote here and there.
Others are bringing in significant amount of money
and get things like health care benefits,
but around 85% of members,
according to my recollection,
don't qualify for the minimum income to get benefits.
What a surprise.
So there's like varying degrees here, of course.
I mean, it's a huge union.
It's not surprising.
And then there's people who are voted in
to have like these executive positions
at the union and whatnot.
Yeah.
Regardless, though, it is ultimately made up of the members.
And some of those are actors, some voice actors.
You get the point.
What's interesting is when you see lots of people trying to put all the blame on SAG after itself
and act like the VAs are all innocent when, as we just discussed.
This is it.
This guy is fucking based.
Not higher payment.
They want to create a monopoly disguised as AI protection.
Yeah.
They want to make sure that they are the gatekeepers for anybody trying to get a job inside of this space
and work on games that they're involved in
because that's what's best for them.
Obviously, that's what they're going to do.
And furthermore, as you can see here and elsewhere on the internet,
such as Reddit, etc., etc.,
some people try and cite Erica, the VA for Venti,
as proof that SAG is forcing VAs to do certain things
and that they don't have free will of their own.
For example, this comment that reads,
FIAs that are part of the EU.
I know a lot of people know this,
but like SAG stands for Screen Actors Guild.
it's a really, really big union here in the U.S.
And it's what a lot of people in entertainment are a part of
in order to get better deals.
And could get blacklisted by SAG.
Yeah, in case anybody doesn't know that.
Fentis VA confirmed they are being sent threatening emails by the union.
There's a lot more to it, but yeah, VAs are not to mean people to blame.
Well, in some cases, they are.
In some cases, VAs have outspokenly bootlicked for the union
and harassed people like Jacob Taganashi.
In such cases, absolutely the VAs are also to blame.
because they're enabling the predatory behavior going on at SAGAFTA and harassing people who would stand up to SAGAFRA.
And this is something that has also happened to Vente's VA.
So I find it kind of messed up actually that this person is mentioning Erica here, the VA for Ventee,
but only mentioning the threatening letters part because it helps their argument.
Yeah.
As they try to paint all the VAs out as like innocent,
when Vente's VA Erica actually got harassed by other VAs on blue sky when she began to expose SAG.
And those FAs were even saying things like Erica deserves to get those letters and they were trying to downplay them being like, oh, the letters aren't threatening.
This is just what happens.
Erica deserves this.
So give Erica.
Keep this in mind every time that they act like victims.
This is what I've said before is that a lot of these people love to throw shit.
But the moment that they get any shit, now they're crying.
This is the reason why I don't have any sympathy for anybody who's being critical and hostile online.
is that like and then because like they'll always cry and they'll be like oh i'm being harassed
damn that's crazy wow wow really okay
the credit that she deserves for going up against the corrupt vAs and their corrupt union
and stop enabling the predatory behavior all right now let's get some blue sky anger
we got this post that says i've been hearing murmurings that the english voices for stelle
and calis and honk i star right it's a furry of course
course it's a fucking furry.
What is surprise?
Yep.
Have been recast.
Regardless of whether that's true.
Who could have guessed?
I just need to reiterate my disappointment
in the fandom response.
That's so many people are so
ghoulish as to not care about
the livelihoods of the VAs that literally give
voice to the main characters of their
favorite game because how dare they have to play
a game for a few months missing some voice acting.
I mean, that's part of it,
but you're also ignoring how people just didn't like being
manipulated. You don't, it's not like, just stop doing this thing where you keep trying to guilt
trip the customer. Stop trying to make the customer write checks on your behalf. It's just so
annoying. When streamers do it, a voice actor does it, an actor does it, and a game developer does it,
stop blaming the customer. If you are delivering a product and the product that the person is receiving
is not what they want it to be.
They have every right to be frustrated.
That's the way it is.
This isn't some kind of fucking relationship.
It's a transaction.
Stop trying to emotionally manipulate people
just because you think that they're supposed to care about you.
You're selling a product.
You are the product.
Jesus.
And what they're trying to do to Hoyo and non-UJuez.
It's funny how this is so often left out
by people who are trying to always defendants.
defend the strike and sag they are mindless petulant black holes of content
consumption and I can't stay it won't make a difference but I won't be giving
Hoyo any more of my time it's time to drop Honkai Star Rail and all of
Mahoyo's other games you can see they open I really want to go back to this
person's account in a year and I want to see if that's true because I don't
think it's fucking true with their rage
post here with a really gross analogy and then go on to say quote just a little bit of a feeling
you not on quote if you don't get bent so are they just defending sag there is that what they're trying
to like get at i guess yeah quote they aren't grateful on quote dude it's a job you know the thing
neither of us have and then they get really mad at this post in particular looks like it's from reddit
where this person says hoyo has shown more patience than nearly other companies yeah who would fire
anyone not working especially when there is no efficient
union strike against any Hoyo games.
It's unfortunate that it's come to this,
but I'm not surprised by the decision.
They're all getting replaced by AI.
This is going to be bad.
I think that you're going to have,
like, you're going to have
80% of voice acting in games
in probably 5 to 10 years
that are done with AI.
After all being on voiced
for so long,
response reading,
especially since the Kankai's
a game with eight hours
story patch, every patch.
They don't have the cards.
It genuinely hurts their whole game
because it's,
ruined some people's immersion on the story.
They simply can't wait any longer
since we're closing on the ending of the first
half of amorphorus.
Actually, that's Amphorius, I think,
my bad. They close their rant by saying
I don't write about games much anymore
except for my own blogs.
Because you got
negative feedback because
people don't like what you're saying.
That's the reason why.
That's what happens.
Yeah.
I feel okay making fun of these people.
well i mean all we really got out of this is that you're defending a corrupt union so congratulations i guess
but look at this elsewhere on blue sky there were some people actually defending oyovers for example this person says uh at this point voice actors getting recast like that in hoyo games don't feel so surprising it just feels so hurtful that they can just throw people away like that all they want is protection is it that hard sigh once again we know they want a lot more than that but this response says what could have happened when you're
to work for no valid and official reason.
Yeah, if you stop doing your job, the thing is that collective bargaining goes both ways.
If you say, I'm not going to do my job unless you give me more money,
the company also has the right to say, okay, we're not going to give you more money.
It's not like you just invoke this every time you want more money and they just have to give you more money.
That's not how it works.
As much as I didn't want it to happen, they withheld work.
It was bound to happen.
Jesus.
It's been ridiculous to not have the main character voiced since 2.6, four patches.
I'm not celebrating them losing the roles, but I am happy to finally have the character voiced again.
No hate their way or the new VAs.
Yeah, of course.
Ignoring the fact that most video games went on voice slash minimal vane back in the day,
just so you can rip on people's livelihoods is real rich.
Bro, this person was so respectful about it,
and this guy is still getting, like,
was still getting like enraged
like seething over it. Oh God.
Oh my gosh, it gets worse. Look at this.
I hope you lose your job to AI one day
and I hope AI prevents you from finding
another one. Holy smokes, dude.
Do you think this is a byproduct of the
protest culture that's come about in the last
10 years? Yeah, I think that
we have a big protest culture because people
are bored. They're bored
and they have no meaning so they have to
find different social causes to attach
to themselves to so they can feel
better about the fact that they live an absolute privilege in the greatest time in history,
and they share some form of guilt for it. That's the reason why.
They're always so like mad and weird sounding, man. Yep. What are you on about?
I know you aren't talking about the strike against meho. And back in the day, my guy,
the strike hasn't even passed a year. I know critical thinking is hard for kids these days,
but we can't hold your hand through it anymore. Not that I expect much from a selfish redacted.
bro are you stupid you didn't even make
take your meds
yeah bro get like
get help
this is crazy go ahead and reread what I wrote
where these people come from
that actually is relevant to what I said
instead of digging up insults
you don't one last thing we'll take a look
at here do you remember months back near the beginning
of this whole situation
when a number of VAs went to
to redid to try and defend sag after
and the strike by continuing
to spread a false narrative to which people
on Reddit called them out. Some simply asking questions and these VAs responded by either dodging
and not answering and or blocking people or giving like manipulative lies as a response to which they
got mass downvoted. Well, we'll take a look at this comment from two months ago really quick and you'll
see why in a second. Reads, they can't see it on blue sky. I asked a few of them to clarify and they
called me names. Said I was anti-worker and pro billion dollar company and blocked me. Kit Harrison,
Cher Kirby both did since I was replying to a thread where they were both then.
Blue Sky is the greatest a safe space for the vileness of Twitter, but I think a lot of people
treat it more like a blog than social media.
The reason we're taking a look at this again is because...
The reason Blue Sky is simply a safe space for people that can't handle Twitter.
And it's also dying.
Blue Sky, however popular you thought Blue Sky was, it's becoming less popular every week and every
month because the only reason why it exists is to basically be some kind of oppositional force
against Trump and eventually people lose interest in that. And this is also another big component
is that as a voice actor, for example, Andy Circus or Ben Starr, both people that were
in Expedition 33, one of the reasons why these guys get cast is because people know who they are.
And it's like, oh, it's this guy, right? So a lot of people are doing themselves a big
disservice by moving over to Blue Sky because they're handicapping their growth as a content
creator and if your growth is built around popularity and you leave the place that's giving you
popularity well you're going to have a pretty bad fucking time thinking of a number of the
vAs who were on Reddit trying to defend the strike and what stuff and i did recall kit harrison so i went
over to blue sky to kit harrison's account to see if he had anything to say about the recent recasts
and there actually wasn't anything that I saw
doesn't seem like he's talking about it.
But there is one thing that I thought was rather interesting
and give some insight onto the VA work.
That being this post where he talks about money.
The context is,
he says two days ago,
was driving home yesterday and a pheasant flew headlong
into my wing mirror from the side.
Heck of a shock.
You shouldn't dwell on these things,
but if I was driving at any different speed,
it would have been way, way worse.
Watch out for low-flying birds, kids.
First of all
Why was he riding in a windmill?
Bro, sucks what happened to your car.
But that takes us to
the quote that he made of that post
where he adds onto it saying
Argue, 75 euros
for a new wing mirror
and 450 euros for a new door window.
Anyone need circa one hour
of high quality voice acting.
So you're telling me
these guys actually get paid.
This guy trying to get paid
what is close to $600
USD for an hour of voice acting.
and no offense to this guy
but he's not exactly a household name
doesn't exactly
$600 an hour
um
yeah
guys
uh yeah
ah man yeah
I think I can see why they're using AI
we have like a big credit list
here and still wants
like 600 USD around
for an hour around an hour
around an hour of VA work?
Is that really what these people are trying to charge?
Yeah.
That's just crazy, in my opinion.
So yeah, please let me know what you guys think about that.
Am I reading that wrong?
Or is he really trying to charge like 600,
just about 600 USD for an hour of VA work?
I don't think voice actors are really rich
and it's not really like they have some kind of like crazy super,
you know, fucking like high overpaid job.
But the problem is that nowadays,
especially when you have and you have the same thing with streamers, right?
streamers talking about like losing ad revenue wow there's a streamer that showed their ad revenue and last
month they made $18,000 and this month they're only going to make $12,000.
Oh my God. Can somebody please, you know, can we start to go fund me so they don't go homeless?
They're going to have to go be a mailman now.
It's just like really.
And the problem is that I think that people don't realize that especially on the internet, you're communicating to an audience of people that is
global. So even if you think $12,000 isn't a lot of money every month, which I mean, in some
places, like a couple of places at least, it's really not a lot of money every month, like San Francisco,
for example. You know, if you're looking at it from the perspective of a Chinese person maybe,
or, you know, maybe somebody who lives in a European country that is a much lower standard
of living, then you're going to have a totally different viewpoint on this. Yeah, you're talking to
people. Yeah, basically, you're talking to people that are making $15 an hour.
complaining about making $600 an hour.
That's not going to go very well.
It's not.
And it takes me back to really quick to something I covered months ago
where there was the,
oh, what was that creepy pasta thing?
Ben drowned, I think.
Yeah, the creator Ben drowned put out an ad for like needing some background voices
and a bunch of people on Twitter were mad with what he was trying to pay,
asking for like hundreds of dollars just to say a few lines.
And that sounds so crazy then.
but apparently yeah these people really do think they should get like paid hundreds for a few lines or like 600 for an hour
yeah if these people think that they're going to get paid hundreds of dollars for this in the long term i think that they're delusional
like ai is going to totally replace this shit and it's not even going to be close
i don't know man i don't know i don't think it's a great look but maybe i'm reading it wrong i don't think i am
but if i am let me know what you think about all this stuff including that little bonus at the end
little a little insight into the VA stuff here yep hope you enjoyed the coverage if you did please
consider i figured i've watched this video because i have covered this drama for a while rest of your
week and i'll see you in the comments as well as in the next one i didn't know they're adding ultron
i just recently saw that so uh i do think it's really funny to see this happen and uh i think it's
going to happen with more different companies and i think also one of the reasons why there's a
lingering animosity of the voice actors.
The reason why is because the voice actors and a lot of people that worked in tech,
they were the ones that were the biggest farmers and the biggest pushers of
learn the code or some other form of dismissive language when white collar or sorry,
blue collar workers lost their jobs to automation.
And so now these same people are the victims of automation themselves.
And there's nobody left to complain or cry about them.
because nobody cares.
So that's it.
And at least it could be a common guy
with an AI voice changer.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And if you heard about the smash community drama,
apparently they killed someone
and the person who exposed them
got the video, false flag, got re-uploaded.
No, I don't know about that.
Sounds pretty heavy.
I'll probably wait until tomorrow
until I cover that because of just how extreme it sounds.
So, yeah, that's at least the way I see about it.
And it's fair.
I don't know what you remember by that.
But yeah, actually they learned a code
and now AI has turned me into a monster?
Well, yeah, of course.
I mean, like a lot of people,
the thing is that a lot of people that are smart
are going to be able to use AI
as a multiplier for their efforts.
But the issue is that for voice actors
and certain people,
they're going to get replaced by AI
because the fact is that AI
will replace the bottom 80% of performers.
And just by the numbers,
most people are in the bottom 80%.
That's what the 80% means.
and so most people are going to end up getting replaced coders and this has happened like how many of you guys have had an element of your job that has been replaced by AI in one way or another how many of you guys have that happened i have yes of course right and so like you have and so i got laid off yeah right and so like there's a there's a component of it where it's being used in AI and i think this is what's going to happen in a lot of cases and it's going to happen more and more and more and you can't
you can't stop this from happening. You can't make this go away. It's just going to keep getting
worse and worse. And I think the problem that a lot of people have with these voice actors is that
you have this double speak where it's okay that some people lose their jobs to AI or automation
or some form of technology, but it's not okay that they lose their job. And I think that's the big
issue that a lot of people have. And that's the reason why they're frustrated more than anything else,
right?
