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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today, a federal appeals court will hear arguments on whether Donald Trump and his administration can continue deportation fights for suspected migrant gang members living in the U.S. We're going up the court system again. Madeline Rivera joins us from Washington, D.C. with the details. Good morning, Maddie. Good morning, guys. Yeah, the Trump administration is defiant. They say they have the authority to deport migrants whom they say are national security threats. They are expected to double down on that argument today. This comes as the administration's standing. with federal judge James Boasburg escalates. Bozberg calls the president's expanded use of the Alien Enemies Act problematic,
Starting point is 00:00:37 and he's also promising to find out whether the administration flouted his order to turn deportation flights to El Salvador back around. Borders are Tom Homan says the administration will not defy court orders. However, Homan is also taking aim at Bozberg. No, I don't care with that, Judge's think, as far as this case,
Starting point is 00:00:56 we're going to continue to arrest public safety threats threats and national security threats will continue to deport them from the United States. As far as events. It's crazy how these people always end up on the side of illegal migrant gang members. How do you always end up on that side? Isn't that interesting? How is it that you always side with the people that are terrorists? Wow. What are the odds?
Starting point is 00:01:24 It's on flight every single one according to the information. What the side of due process? You really think where's the due process are people getting fired from a job? from COVID. Where's the due process for people that are getting arrested and put in jail after January 6? No, bro. Like, absolutely fucking not. You're not going to use this due process argument on me. When, no, these people don't give a fuck about due process. They care about losing some sort of political ground. That's it. From the field are members of the TDA. And TDA has been determined to be terrorist organizations. They are not. classified a terrorist, so that plane removed 240 terrorists from the United States.
Starting point is 00:02:09 The process should be given now, even if it wasn't before. I think it should be too, but I don't, like, if you want to look at it from, this is what my perspective is, right? I think that they should always listen to what the court says, but if there's a way that you can use a rule to avoid that, I agree with the premise of getting rid of these people and deporting them. I don't care if they're going to El Salvador. I don't care if they're going to the moon. I just don't want them here. So really, you're right.
Starting point is 00:02:42 They do have to follow the due process. But if the due process can be subverted with an old rule, that sounds good to me. This is litigated. Deportation flights to Venezuela are back on after the country's president, Nicholas Maduro, halted flights earlier this month. Venezuelan officials say,
Starting point is 00:03:03 a deal with the U.S. had been reached. The Department of Homeland Security says the first flight arrived on Sunday. It had 199 people, including some whom the administration says are suspected gang members. And Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Noem, is planning to visit Central America this week. Her visit will kick off on Wednesday with a tour of El Salvador's terrorism confinement center. A DHS spokesperson, Tricia McLaughlin, telling Fox News Digital that Noam and the president are sending a clear message for a criminal aliens considering entering America illegally, don't even think about it. That's another thing, too, is if things aren't going well for them, then they're going to get God.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And you're going to have less people coming over and causing problems. I know that you accept that there will be collateral, but there's an amount of innocent immigrants that will get caught up when you draw the line for. But is there a line? Well, whenever you say innocent immigrants, you're talking about people that are illegally here, right? so then the entire premise of them being innocent doesn't exist. And this is, again, like, I'm not going to play your game with vocabulary because it's inherently deceptive. Most prison visit, she will also meet with El Salvador's president. Lawrence, Rachel, and Brian.
Starting point is 00:04:28 All right, thanks, man. That is it clear to you. I'll talk to you later. Go ahead, man. Is Maddo still there? Yeah. I'm still here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So, Maddie, is it clear to you what we did to get the flights back on track to Venezuela? You know, I didn't actually... It's not a game to do what the fuck. Random people being deported into a country. They aren't from into a Supermax prison. Yeah. Don't come here if you're not supposed to be here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 If you're part of an illegal gang, it could be a lot worse. They didn't have to come here. You see details regarding the deal that Venezuelan officials say had been reached with the US. There was a post on X regarding it, but it's in Spanish. So I'm hoping that I can get a translation, but I looked into this, Brian, and I actually didn't see details regarding how and the details of that deal with. Yes, and with me, I think it's something to do with Chevron. I think that they want to keep up that. So that's what I assume. But thank you very much. That's exactly why it was in the first place. Maddie, you can send it to me. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I thought about it, Rachel. I know. I know Rachel can do it. Thank you, Maddie. I watched all the Sunday shows yesterday, and I was just stunned. They pretty as dedicated the full hours talking about the flights that went over, except they weren't advocating for the American people who have been victimized by the legalism. This is the problem. Is that the entire fixation is around trying to drum up empathy for people that are here illegally when other people have been negatively affected by that and somehow we're not supposed to care? That's it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 As people are trying to weaponize the average person's empathy against them in order to make them complicit with allowing a bunch of people to come over and basically, I think, play a long game of adding voters into a different area. That's the reason. Want to have judicial proceedings to prove their case? The judge today had a good line about how Nazis receive better treatment. Well, the moment that somebody is using the word Nazi, I'm going to immediately stop paying attention to them. And by the way, maybe it was a good example in this one circumstance, but with the amount of times that I've heard the word Nazi used in the past like fucking 10 years, I think that I probably heard it used effectively in a way that makes sense once.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So people that try to turn to Niagara or MS-13, they talked about the one-off that could maybe should have their cases review. But I was looking at this story. A grandmother was murdered. And this guy right here, if you can just throw up his mugshot. He was subject to deportation in 2023 under the Biden administration. But he murdered a grandmother. It was no cause to do this. Obviously, there's never a cause, but it was a random attack. And he was going to get away with it before the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And he's not the only one, Rachel. I got like three other different cases. These are the people that these guys are so adamantly defending and shot. This is it. They're trying to bring up due, oh, this is the due process. For sure. You're not even supposed to be here and you're charged with a murder. Wow. Wow. What are the odds?
Starting point is 00:07:51 This was in my home state of Texas. Look at these menaces to society. Driving drunk. Yep. Committed manslaughter. The kid was like 20-some year old. This is what they're defending, bro. It's sad. Don't generalize it. We're talking about the suspects. How do you judge deported suspects? It's simple. They're not supposed to be here. Get the fuck out. What do you mean? It's such an easy premise. Why do you make it complicated? It's not complicated at all.
Starting point is 00:08:29 There's nothing complicated about this. A car was just parked on the side and they hit them and killed them. These are the people that you should be talking about on your Sunday shows instead of the criminals. So it's interesting to see what... You're defending people that kill grandmas that are sex traffickers. and that are driving around drunk. And oh yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure all three of these guys are innocent, actually,
Starting point is 00:08:58 and they didn't do it. And it's, you know, oh, no, that's not it. Well, it doesn't matter. I mean, it shouldn't have been here in the first place to even get charged with the possibility of doing it. What kind of fucking racist logic is that? Well, let me go back and let me explain this. What do you think is racist about this?
Starting point is 00:09:20 I'm curious, what do you think is racist? racist about what I'm saying. Assuming that they're guilty because they're immigrants, what does that have to do with race? Because they are immigrants, what do you mean? So, yeah, but what does an immigrant have to do with race? Is immigrant a race? No, but we're talking about Venezuelans. So why is it racist?
Starting point is 00:09:49 You're saying they're guilty because you're saying they're guilty because of their race? When did I say that? It's implied with the statement. Okay, so then you agree with me whenever, so I didn't say it. then, right? You aren't talking about white immigrants? I've said it plenty of times. Can you find me a clip of me saying that I think that we should deport people based off of race? I think the only time I ever said that was talking about like Karens, like white older Karens. So if anything, I'm racist against white people. That was the only time I probably ever said that. And in sales,
Starting point is 00:10:29 yeah. So let me get this straight. Then never used the country of origin in any of these discussions. Well, it doesn't matter where the origin country is. And the reason why it doesn't matter is because it's not racist. If they were from Canada, I'd say the same thing. If they were from Germany, I'd say the same thing. If they were from Africa, I'd say the same thing. If they're from Venezuela, I'd say the same thing. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, it doesn't matter where they're from. All illegal immigrants are not 100% from Venezuela. Of course not. And the reason why I went through this with this person is that I just want you to see, yes, you said it plenty of times. Well, how about this? If I've said it plenty of times, you should go back in those clips,
Starting point is 00:11:13 find the clip where I said that people should be deported based off of their race, and report me to Twitch and I'll get banned because that's racist to say, and being racist on the platform is a banable offense.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So, yeah, just go report me. If you know that I said it on the platform, then report me, and we'll find out whether that happened or not. and by the way, we all know it didn't happen because you're making this up. This entire premise that any sort of criticism or complaining, and this is again another person here, if we go back over here, let's take a look at it again. This is a person, they're immigrants, they're not immigrants, they are criminals that have come here.
Starting point is 00:11:56 This is not an immigrant. An immigrant is a person who has followed the protocol and they have lawfully immigrated to the country. This is an illegal alien. This is two very different things. Why even bother? Well, the reason why you said about Muslims before and you were banned, right? No, that was something completely different. Number one, number two, I was talking about a specific group of people, not just Muslims in general.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Number three, I said I was wrong for saying that, and I acknowledged that I was wrong. And so wouldn't that also make your argument or make what I'm saying even stronger? If I got in trouble for that before and I'm not getting in trouble for it now, wouldn't that serve as evidence that maybe I'm not doing anything wrong? And if you think that I am, maybe you should report it to Twitch. There's no, you're not thinking at all. There's no thinking at all involved in this. And I just want you to know that like this is the, how do you know they're illegal?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Because they were found to be illegal and they received deportation orders in 2023. That's what they just said about the other guy. How do I know that they're illegal? Because the government says that they're illegal. How do you know anything? Like, what do you mean? How do I know? They're in jail for murder, nothing about it being illegal. It literally, I just want you guys to see, U.S. citizens also commit murder. That's not what's being discussed at all. That's never what's being discussed. And so anyway,
Starting point is 00:13:23 I just want you guys to see that this is the mind of one of these defenders. There's no logic, no rationality, no thinking, it's just an emotional outburst with literally nothing behind it at all. The Aaron is name being logic is nuts. I know. Like, it's just sad. It really is fucking sad. And they're so retarded that it's unbelievable. Well, it isn't really. But I just want you guys to see that, like occasionally, I like going through the thought process of these people and showing people in chat, that it is completely fucking paper thin. And the moment that this is questioned, as most people don't want to like push back on something being racist and like they're
Starting point is 00:14:09 afraid of being called that. So like they'll just like immediately back down. No, I know that I'm not a racist and anybody that knows me knows that. And so I have no problem talking about this freely. And I don't need to mince my words or add in a thousand disclaimers, etc. because anybody that knows me knows that. And, you know, all you have to do is look at my whole life. It's just, it's total bullshit.
Starting point is 00:14:33 They really do have nothing? No, they don't. The families who are involved in pushing back and suing, they're saying, my family member is not in Trin de Agua. My family member is not MS-13. That tattoo you see, one of them said, is Real Madrid. It's the soccer team. They're not in a gang.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Don't send them to El Salvador. door. But all these people could have self-deported. They saw, you know, they saw what was going to happen. Now, listen, if you came here illegally and you were just going to be, you know, an illegal Uber driver, maybe, and you got sent to that prison, I understand this is a big deal. But the point is, you're not supposed to be in the country. And that is the chance that you're taking by being here, especially if you commit a crime. And to me, if you're looking as you do a balance show, you start I think if you want to make people stop coming into a country, punish the ones that come into the country heavily and then they'll stop coming in. That's how to make it stop.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Like, I'll give you an example. And this isn't what, I'm not advocating for this, but I'm just giving you an example. If every single time that you were pulled over for drunk driving and you took a breathalyzer and you were over the legal limit, the police officer pulled out their gun and shot you in the head, nobody would drunk drive. the amount of it would go down by 99%. If you want to make a, if you want to change behavior, change incentives. It's that simple. Saying border crossings are down, 96%.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It's almost impossible to conceive or predict this type of success. Also, when you talk about what's happening with this El Salvador crime, you want to know about the 260- Very dangerous form of logic? No, this logic is how our entire justice. system is built. So our entire justice system is built around basically the punishment being greater than the reward or the risk of the risk of punishment being greater than the reward that you get from the crime. And the instances in the cases where it's not, like, for example,
Starting point is 00:16:42 a lot of like corporate policy and corporate fines, those are considered to be basically unfair. It's like the, I think it's in like Final Fantasy. They said that, you know, if the only crime, or sorry, if the only punishment is a fine, then it's simply a crime against the poor. It's a crime that's only for poor people. The principles are the same. Yeah, of course, I'm not advocating for just shooting people, you know, for drunk driving. Although, like, I mean, if somebody gets hit and they're drunk driving, I don't really care a whole lot, right?
Starting point is 00:17:14 But at the same time, you kind of brought it on yourself. But at the same time, my point is that the worse of punishment is, the higher the probability is that people won't do that action. Every type of violent punishment's already been tested to control criminality and it didn't work. So you're telling me that, okay, let's talk about a theoretical. There's something if you are stealing from a store and the fine for stealing from a store is changed from $100 to $1,000. Do you think that would reduce the amount of people stealing from the store? How does it take you more than three seconds to figure this out? Well, okay. Anyway, so I just want you guys to see, again, the moment that these people get confronted with any sort of even slight logic, they immediately roach out and fall apart.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's, again, and it's very simple to understand. You literally didn't give them the chance to reply? Well, there's no, there's no reason to. It's either a yes or a no. If you're adding in anything other than yes or no, the reason why is probably because you know that you're wrong. and you're trying to pad you being wrong with some other qualifying statement to defend yourself? That's the reason why. And everybody knows it. One that was sent to El Salvador last weekend. Suddenly they're first front and center. Do you want to ask how they got here to begin with? Do you want to ask how they infiltrated these cities, the damage they have done? Have you thought about the balance of it? And if someone's caught up there, they shouldn't be. There's an interesting inquiry you could have there. If there's a way to do this,
Starting point is 00:19:03 because we need to send more people to El Salvador. I don't know about you, Rachel. I love your contacts more than mine. But I worry about once they get to Venezuela, if they're going to come right back. And when they go to El Salvador, I know they're not because they cleaned up their entire country by jailing all their gangsters. So I look forward to seeing what Christine Nome sees when she gets there. But I do, yeah, but I do think that Tom Oman was questioned constantly about this.
Starting point is 00:19:26 They want Trump to say, I'm defying the courts. They want Tom Holman who say, I'm defying the courts. They're waiting for a Trump official so they can say, all hell is broke. Yeah, exactly. And they're doing that in order to get media ratings. I don't think that they really care about it, but it's just a very good headline for them to be able to say that. You can lose. Democracy is breaking down, but it hasn't happened.
Starting point is 00:19:51 They're going to go up the ladder all the way through. So is what the judge asking that in order to send them to El Salvador, you have to have proof that they were in a gang or is breaking the law and entering entering our country not if that's not enough but the but the president is saying under the act that you don't have to show you don't have to do this due process so you have to you have a constitutional right that is actually they they are afforded to illegals in this country we should revisit that but then you have a competing act that is saying hey if someone is a part of a foreign terrorist organization
Starting point is 00:20:32 that you don't have to give them due process and they can be deported. Now the agents that I talk to them. They have to prove that they were actually infected of our MS-13. Exactly. And so what the agents are saying is, because you hear all these activists keep talking about the tattoos. We're not just talking about the tattoos. These are, that's just one of the elements. We sat on their house and part of the reason why we don't want to reveal some of this information is because some of the people that got the information are undercover. So if we- That's also a good point. Yeah. It's like a lot of these people that they're finding, they're not going to just go out and explain exactly what their process and methodology was for finding them is because then the people that are also here can reverse engineer that.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Are bringing out our sources and methods. We're going to burn our sources that are still within the organization. I think that's a great point with your law enforcement background, especially. But I also think it's not practical to think that we can do due process on 8 million people. There's 22 million people here and minimum legal already just in the last three administrations and there's some people that got through with Trump's administration. If we're going to give every these guys a day in court and a lawyer, we can't do it. They don't deserve it. Our system doesn't need to be double burdened. And I would just love to see the same curiosity, anger, outrage about the millions that came here at our border. You found the NGOs.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. We couldn't, you couldn't get into the building. But they were sent into Westchester, small towns in, into Pennsylvania, and they're unloaded and we don't know anything about them. Where was Margaret Brennan and who's ever hosting Meet the Press today? Welcome. Where were they curious about what's going on? How do we know who's landing in the middle of the night? How do we know who's putting into our school systems then? If you were at least outraged then, you'd have more credibility now.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But now you're concerned that this is a tattoo arrest. It wasn't a tattoo arrest. And as much as it pains me to say it's another oversimplification. And I think that that's the reason why these people do this. It's an oversimplification in order to make it seem ridiculous in the eyes of the public. Why do these people want those violent criminals to stay? Because they've been brainwashed into hating their country. That's the reason why.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah, it's that simple. Yeah, I mean, it's really just that simple. I mean, like, and all you have to do is go on Twitter and see what people are saying. That's 100% what it is. just because you're a professional soccer player, it doesn't mean that you're a great person and weren't up to no good when you escaped and got across our border.
Starting point is 00:23:14 If you were that good, you could have been transferred to another team. I don't care with that. Judge Stank, as far as this case, we're going to continue to arrest public safety threats and national security threats. We're going to continue to deport them from the United States. The enemy's act was actually a federal law,
Starting point is 00:23:30 it's a statutes, enacted by Congress, and signed by a president. Now, that's under litigation. But put that aside, we still have Title VIII authority to remove illegal amateurs for the United States. Do they have any due process at all? Due process. Well, Lake and Ronnie's due process. Good point. Borders are, Tom Holman, vowing to continue deportations. Never saying... How come he's going to be so brainwashed to hating their own country?
Starting point is 00:23:56 The reason why, and this is also another big issue, is that I think a lot of really dumb people buy into stuff like this. and the reason why they buy into it is that they don't understand any secondary effects that happen when a person like that comes into the country. They don't understand like, for example, like the
Starting point is 00:24:16 kind of like economy that creates for identity theft. They don't understand the economy that it creates for other forms of theft and stealing and breaking the law. And now it's like, okay, well now you have companies that are paying them under the table and this affects other companies.
Starting point is 00:24:32 no logic as motion? Yeah. You have to think more than one step ahead. Because like a lot of these problems, they create a cascade domino effect to a lot of other things on top of that. I don't understand how due process applies to illegals. There should be no due process, just deportation. I don't know. I think that like whenever you're saying due process, there is a different process for different people for different reasons, right? Like due process for one person is going to be different than another person because of the nature of the crime. right? So like, for example, like giving somebody death penalty is a much higher level of due process than arresting them and putting them in jail overnight for being drunk, right? There's like much
Starting point is 00:25:12 more legal proceedings and legal information. Does that make sense? To defy the court, by the way, this ahead of a hearing today on the Trump administration's decision to send migrant gang members to a maximum security prison in El Salvador. Fox News legal analyst, Greg Jarrett joins us now. Greg, it looks like they, First off, we're moving to a different court on the freezing of the flights, but we're still in the lower court with the judge who wants to know more details about why those flights took off last Saturday. So can you update us from how you see this going? Well, the district court judge, Brian, his name is Boasberg. He set a court hearing for tomorrow, but the higher appellate court has a hearing to do.
Starting point is 00:26:02 to decide whether to toss out the judge's temporary restraining order on these deportations. So for now, the appellate court has jurisdiction, but it really depends on what they do today. What's so troubling, I think, about Bozberg's restraining order is that he is defying the Supreme Court, which reviewed Harry Truman's use of the Alien Enemies Act after World War II ended. And the High Court said that not only is the Act constitutional, on the law of the land, it is not subject to judicial review by any judge. So when a president invents it, no judge, no court can ever intervene, not even the Supreme Court, because Congress gave the president the exclusive power that is purely political
Starting point is 00:26:52 to make decisions on national security and foreign policy. Well, Boasburg is duty-bound, Brian, as a lower court judge to follow the ruling of the highest court the Supreme Court and butt out. And yet he is brazenly ignoring the Supreme Court precedent. I think this is also the issue is that like, and I'm also probably included this in this and like to an extent is that that's why I'm really talking about like what I think it should be rather than like what it is is that it does seem like it seems to me like there is a problem when like one judge can end up telling the entire country and the the federal government that they can't deport people that are illegal immigrants. Like, that seems like a very bad problem to have. It doesn't make
Starting point is 00:27:38 sense to me. Now, obviously, that could still be the way it has to be, but it sure doesn't seem logical. What is the answer here? The appellate court you were just telling me in the break is not necessarily going to be friendly to the Trump administration. So they'll keep, once these both to make a decision, they'll keep moving up this entire case, right? Yeah, I think so. This is, again, strictly a TRO hearing today in the appellate court, temporary restraining order, although I suspect they may start talking about other things, like has this judge exceeded his authority on other grounds, which I think he has. It's not a friendly court. It's an uphill battle for the Department of Justice on behalf of President Trump. Right. So if they uphold the TRO, goes back to the trial court
Starting point is 00:28:34 judge. We see what he does. And then on the somebody goes, uh, there's, if there's no due process, they may come for you next. What if you were swept up in an ice sweep? You'd want a process to explain that you don't belong there. Yeah, guys. What if, what if I randomly get arrested by ICE
Starting point is 00:28:50 for being an illegal immigrant, uh, what do you call it, gang member? And I get sent to El Salvador. Of course. Yeah, like, oh, yeah, what if that happened to you? Oh my God. merits it'll be appealed by the Department of Justice again going to higher and higher courts
Starting point is 00:29:12 eventually i think to the u.s supreme court brian so let's look at the bigger picture a nation our injunction numbers are unbelievable if you look at the past presidents we got george w bush with six obama with 12 Biden with 14 in their entire administrations trump two has got 15 already so is there something cooking in congress to let's to say to say to stop this trend and actually give an administration a chance to implement their policy? There is, because Democrats and liberal groups have been sprinting to favorable venues and preferable judges where the result is preordained in their favor against Trump. It's known derisively as judge shopping completely unethical. And many of these restraining orders have one common denominator. They're
Starting point is 00:30:04 ordered by Democrat appointed judges exceeding their authority, contorting the law to do it. They are essentially usurping the power of the president and violating the separation of powers. I think that's what happens. They literally sent people who weren't illegal and not part of gangs, idiot. This is a person that's like typed us over and over and over. You are going to get banned for spamming, but I will respond to this just for a minute. There is literally not a single rule or policy in the entire government that has not had collateral damage. If your argument is that because certain policies can have collateral damage, then we shouldn't have them. You would be arguing to get rid of all prisons. That's the way it works. There, of course will be collateral damage.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Of course, that's what happens. To stop, Congress can act. Senator Hawley is prepared to introduce a bill to limit the authority of these judges. Because remember, Congress created the court system and the judges, and they can limit and circumscribe their authority. Yeah, we'll see what happens. You know what? It should, you know, you want to have fairness,
Starting point is 00:31:32 but this just seems to be politics at play using the court system for the wrong reason. All right. Thanks so much, Greg. Always great to start our week with you. I'm Steve Deucy. I'm Brian. I find it to be very funny that these are the kinds of people that constantly go and always find themselves arguing against the country and in favor of terrorists, illegal immigrants, gang members, and drug dealers. It always feels very interesting to me that it seems to be that thing every single time. What are the odds? give me one second okay and let me go back over
Starting point is 00:32:13 notice how the right haven't docks the judge or burn his car to the ground for this funny that yeah it's really interesting and if I'm not saying smart enough to argue well I have no problem of people that want to present like a different viewpoint but if you're doing it in a way that's disrespectful or rude
Starting point is 00:32:27 then no I don't really want to deal with that right what's probably talk about let me see here the argument is assuming people are innocent rather than making the assumption that they're guilty well the argument is that there was no assumption made like do you really think that they just randomly picked all these people up and they didn't even know what they were and they sent them immediately over to el salvador like i don't think that happened i mean maybe it did but like and also they're not going to explain their reasoning yes i don't think that's what happened guys like let's be
Starting point is 00:33:00 honest some of them yes yeah why can't we be sure because probably the process of being sure could break the cover or the way that the policy and the way that they found the people. That's the reason why. It's actually quite simple. I do think there are some cases. And yeah, also, by the way, I'm sure that there are going to be some negative circumstances and some things that go wrong on purpose. Or sorry, not on purpose, but mistakes happen, right? Mistakes happen for everything. But the thing is that if you're afraid of making a mistake, you won't do anything. Every single law has people that get charged unfairly for it. Every single prison has people that are there that shouldn't be there.
Starting point is 00:33:38 There's no logic that like, okay, well, if you do something and, you know, if one person is negatively affected by this, we should throw the entire thing out. Well, okay, then we wouldn't have any laws. That's the reality. There's, yeah, there's no laws about this at all. You clearly don't understand the cases. They are extremely bad mistakes completely, they're extremely bad mistakes to completely innocent people?
Starting point is 00:34:06 I think that sure, of course, it happens, but like it's probably not going to happen that often. And also, you should probably ask yourself, what about the people that allowed it to happen and allowed millions of people to come into the country to turn it into a massive crisis where there are literally probably over 10 million illegals that have caused this problem?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Like, why is it not ever referred to back onto them? Like, innocently illegally here? Yeah, bro, like, it's not going to work. work, man. And anyway, that's what I think about it. And I know that there's a lot of people that like defending that kind of stuff, but no, I don't have any sympathy for it at all. And I don't, I don't buy into it at all. Let's see here. I'll read a few more comments and then we're going to move on. It's 20 million, by the way. People say 12, 20. I think it's between probably 12 and 20, somewhere around there. I mean, I don't, maybe it's eight, maybe it's a little bit less,
Starting point is 00:35:03 but I think it's probably over 10 million, right? How does a citizen get deported? They ain't have records to prove citizenship. It's an impossible mistake. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure mistakes happen, right? But I'd have to go and look at the individual case specifically. I think that would really be it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Let's see here. And I'll read it here. Easy solution. Did anyone with a valid visa get flown out? I have a feeling that probably didn't happen. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, it displaced a bunch of kids, so it's not a far stretch to think they can mess this up to in some case.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I mean, I would say that the people that displaced their kids were the ones that brought them over here to the country. If you're bringing your kids over to another country illegally, I think that really the problem lies with the parent or the person that's trafficking them over. I mean, that's what I would say. Those are the people who are in the wrong. And again, it's like, again, like you're being blamed for addressing the problem, but the people that caused it are somehow not to blame. No, they caused this problem.

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