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Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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Our goal is to reduce the deficit by a trillion dollars. That's a lot of money. So from a nominal deficit of two trillion to try cut the deficit in half to one trillion, or looked at it in total federal spending to drop the federal spending from $7 trillion to $6 trillion. We want to reduce the spending by eliminating waste and fraud, reduce the spending by 15%, which seems really quite achievable. The government is not efficient, and there's a lot of waste and fraud, So we feel confident that a 15% reduction can be done without affecting any of the critical government services.

I'm going to talk to all the guys. That's probably true. I mean, I'm going to be honest. Like, I feel like this is probably true with almost any company, especially nowadays with technology, that you probably could cut 15% of the spending from a lot of companies and probably still make the same product. I mean, look what they do with Twitter, right? They cut it by 80% and they still made the same product. And I, fuck, I think it's better now.

guys here about the specifics, but for you, what's the most astonishing thing you've found out in this process? The sheer amount of waste and fraud in the government. It is astonishing. It's mind-blowing. Just, we routinely encounter wastes of a billion dollars or more, casually. Oops. For example, like the simple survey that was, literally a 10-question survey that you could do with survey, Monkeekly cost about $10,000, was, the government was being charged almost a billion dollars for that. For doing a survey? A billion dollars for a simple online survey, do you like the National Park?

And then there appeared to be no feedback loop for what would be done with that survey. So the survey would just go into nothing. It was like, good thing. You technically are a special government employee. Everybody says he's lying. It's not true. Guys, do you really think that they're not retarded? Of course they are.

Of course, absolutely. It goes without saying. You're supposed to be 130 days. Are you going to continue past that? Do you think that's what you're going to do? I think we will have accomplished most of the work required to reduce the deficit by a trillion dollars within that time frame. So in that time frame, 130 days? And the process is a report at some point, at 100 days? Not really a report.

We are cutting the waste and fraud in real time. So every day that passes. Our goal is to reduce the waste and fraud by $4 billion a day, every day, seven days a week. Wow. And so far we are succeeding. And we're going to talk to the specifics, but there obviously are Doge critics who are reading all kinds of stuff. Obviously lawmakers on the other side of the aisle are attacking you. And they characterize the approach as this, fire, ready, and then aim.

And how do you approach that? How do you respond? People always make arguments for, you know, like a system and like this system needs to be done. The reason why is that the system is created to protect them. They've created an apparatus that basically allows them to never have to make any changes and never be held accountable by everything, by anything, because they've created so many different levels of red tape and overlapping government apparatuses that it's almost impossible to dissect all of it. That's what happens. And so, and you see this, like, how many of you guys have been in a company where there's been like some sort of obfuscation mechanic where there's no way for you to really figure out who's at blame?

And the product suffers in the long term because of that. No, I think that's what's happening in the government, too, because that's what happens everywhere else. The hogs are mad. The trough is getting smaller. Yeah, I think so. Every company I work at, yeah. Accountability becomes adjudicated to an abstract department. Exactly, yeah.

And people, like, one thing that people are terrified of is direct personal accountability. And also, the main thing that highly skilled, highly motivated people want is direct personal accountability. Well, I do agree that we actually want to be careful in the cuts. So we want to measure twice, if not thrice, and cut once. and actually that is that is our approach they may characterize it as shooting from the hip but it is anything about that which is not

mistakes happen right that we make we don't make mistakes if we don't approach this with the standard of making no mistakes at all that would be like saying someone baseball has got about a thousand that's impossible so when we do yeah like I mean of course

there's people that go to jail all the time because for crimes they didn't commit. All the time, this happens. That doesn't mean that we just don't put anybody in jail. Like, every rule and every law is going to have bad outcomes. That's just how it is. Mistakes, we correct them quickly, and we move on. It doesn't mean you can't do it.

Some people say this shouldn't take a rocket scientist. Steve Davis, you are a rocket scientist. Used to be. Now essentially you're the chief operating officer of Doge. So this is the guy. Is this big balls? Yeah, part of the Doge team. So how did you end up here?

What's the biggest challenge you see? The reason I'm here, which is probably for many, is that I think the goal is incredibly inspiring. I think most of the taxpayers in the country would agree that in order to have the country going bankrupt would be a very bad thing. And therefore, the country going bankrupt is a good thing. that all of us are willing to kind of put our lives on hold in order to do. I think the thing that's special right now is we actually believe there's a chance to succeed. I feel like, I mean, especially for me, I mean, growing up, like, the government wasting money was like the most common meme in like TV, movies, everything.

Like, I don't understand how we can have a culture that's made jokes and just acknowledge that the government waste money frivolously constantly. And now we're supposed to act like, oh, wait, no, never mind. No, they don't. Yeah, two years ago, people were doing that. Yeah, exactly. There's an administration that's supportive. It's been known for so long.

Yeah, it's obvious. A great cabinet and just a great group that will actually make success a possible outcome. And I think that's given the inspiring mission and given the non-zero chance of success, it was worth down. Yeah. I just like to sort of re-emphasize that point. The success was only possible with President Trump and with the outstanding cabinet that he selected. It would be impossible without the support of the president and the cabinet. But you're finding the money.

I mean, it's big numbers, right? Yeah, like Elon said, the minimum impulse bit is often a billion dollars. So, for example, the $830 million, which was the online survey. That's an enormous amount of money that wouldn't have been found if the Doge team wasn't working with it, in that case, the Department of Interior. But then taking it one step further, Doge then publishes these things on our website for maximum transparency. I think you need to go farther. If there is a group of people that are being paid $880, whatever, billion dollars for doing an online survey,

you need to look at who made that call. You need to look at their relationship with the company that was given that contract. And then you need to, like, order audits of these people financial, of these people's financial tax returns. That's what needs to happen. Because like the moment that you start doing that, I think I know what's going to be on those tax returns. I think I know what it's going to be. I think everybody does.

It's not true, though. Well, if it's not true, then the audit wouldn't matter, right? Wouldn't? I mean, logically, right? That would be it. So, yeah, and their families. Exactly. Yes.

And people that are in their family and around them too. Yeah, 100%. It would have been impossible for the job of public to have seen that. Now, anyone can just log into Doge.gov anytime and see these payments. as they're not yet in real time. They're close, but they'll probably be in real time within the next few weeks. But the process still involves Congress, right? At some level. They still won't put them in jail. So why does it matter? In my opinion, I think we should put them in jail. Like, this is my opinion, is that if somebody is found to be embezzling money

or doing something that's like quid pro quo with the government contracts, I think that they should go directly to jail for like five or 10 years. And if they're taking money off the top and there's no justification for it. Yeah, because like that that's the way that you stop people from doing this. The big problem is that, and you're right, the big problem is that nobody ever faces personal accountability. The moment that personal accountability is applied to individuals is the moment that this immediately goes away. And this is also the reason why it happens is because, again, these people's actions are obfuscated through like so many different levels of like government apparatus red tape that nobody can ever be held accountable or held to a fault for

this. And I think that's the problem. Congress as informed as possible. Make an example of them. Yes, exactly. The law does say that money needs to be spent correctly. It should not be spent fraudulently or wastefully. It's not contrary to Congress to avoid waste and fraud. It is consistent with the law and consistent with Congress. And we've seen actually great support, at least from the Republican side of the House and occasionally some Democrats too. You know it's nice to see people cross the aisle once in a while but usually when they attack those they never attack any of the specifics. So they'll say what we're doing is somehow unconstitutional or legal or whatever

we're like well which line of the cost savings do you disagree with and they can't point to any and we list them all on doge.gov and the Doge handle on X. And you'll see just outrageous things, one outrageous thing after another. Joe Gabbyam, besides Elon, you're one of several billionaires here, co-founder of Airbnb, and you wanted to help out. I bumped into Anthony and Elon probably back in February. And they told me something about a mine that was dealt with retirement. And they said they needed somebody to help out to fix retirement in the government. I love the challenge, so I jumped on board. And it turns out there is actually a mine in Pennsylvania that houses every paper document for the retirement process in the government.

Now, picture this, this giant cave, this 22,000 filing cabinets, stacked 10 high to house 400 million pieces of paper. It's a process that started in the 1950s and largely hasn't changed in the last 70 years. And so as you dug into it, we found retirement cases that had so much paper, they had to fit it on a shipping. palette. So, uh, the, the, so fucking retarded. Why would they do that? Yes, I, I don't know. How is this happening? Oh my God. Process takes many months and it's not funny? No.

Will it be digitized or how? Absolutely. So this will be an online digital process that will take just a few days at most. And I really think. Wait, what? So you're just going to feed it through a machine that just automatically transcribes it digitally. And it'll take a few days and that's it. This is crazy. You know, it's an injustice to civil servants who are subjected to these processes that are older

than the age of half the people watching your show tonight. That's like 50. We really believe that the government can have an Apple store-like experience. Beautifully designed, great user experience, modern systems. Yeah. Because right now it's... Well, I mean, we're not even talking about an Apple Store experience.

We're talking about not having an underground mine with pallets full of retirement paperwork. Like, I'm not, we don't need to go to the Apple store. How about we just go to the year 2005? Like, you don't, yeah, we don't need to have an Apple store. Just let's go to 2005. That's all. I think that's reasonable.

Yes. The retirement process is all by paper, literally with people carrying paper and manila envelopes into this gigantic mine. So they can't retire more than a certain number every month. About $8,000 a month. That's how we do. So there's a mine that has all of the retirement paper work in it, which is a problem logistically because only so many people can get into the mine at a time.

And so they can't retire everybody that's working at the government because that many, remember what I was saying before about how like this is a Russian nesting doll of like government apparatuses and red tape? Like this is what I'm talking about. This is something that only a person at the government can imagine. Like a normal person could never even think this up. But a government employee, this is second nature. Well, of course.

The reason we discovered it was we were saying like, well, let's encourage voluntary retirement. They said, well, most you could be, that could do is $8,000 a month. And even, I don't know, circumstances, it can take six to nine months just to have your own time of paperwork processed. It takes six to nine months to process paperwork? What? In week 46 to 47, what happens?

You know, or week 23 to 24, what are you doing in the weeks between 23 and 24 to make this happen? I wonder. This reminds me one time my dad, um, We went to KFC. My dad and I went to KFC. The year was about 2006, 2007. And the guy, my dad likes the pot pies from KFC. And the employee there told my dad that it would be an 81 minute wait in order for my dad to get his pot pie.

Because it would take 81 minutes for them to get the pot pie. 81 minutes for them to get the pot pie ready. That's right. My dad did not like this answer. The next moment you know, we're talking to the manager. The manager gave my dad five or six free coupons for KFC after that, and he brought my dad out the pot pie in about six minutes directly to our table. Interesting. That's right. I remember this very clearly. And so the employee get fired? I don't know. And so I've seen this happen in real life. And so when I hear this, I immediately believe it. And I know some people, oh, you shouldn't believe this. They're lying. I don't think they are. I don't. Everything that I know about dumbasses in positions of authority and

administration, guess what's happening right now? You're on speaker. That's right. Yeah. Is this the one where you went all the way up to the vice president of Ford? Yeah, I was in my office at work, you know. Yeah. And it's kind of like a washer. Right, yeah. Well, it didn't work, right? It didn't work. That's the point. And so...

Just because it's sad. Yeah. It's sad down a little bit. They fucked it. I just, I had to already... Yeah. So, listen, I know you're hired to be a beat. I don't know. Finally talked to a fucking vice president

at board and I said Okay, what the fuck is this? Got my name and that Yeah Yeah, this is going off This is going off the topic Because I No, no, no, it got my order

She put my order through, right? Yeah And this other guy, I'm easy young Yeah And the, and then I didn't, anything Okay All right, when was this?

This was like last, last month right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I got to get back to the video, right? It is... Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. I just wanted to get that in. All right. Okay. All right. So it's not and so...

All right. Sounds good. I'll talk to you later. All right. I'll see you later. Yes. Yeah, I'll be coming over later. All right.

All right. Yo, bye. Yeah. I'll probably call in again maybe later. Okay. Great. You can be forward to that. Yeah.

Yo, bye. Okay. All right. Yeah, there it is. And no, he went, he, he, he's done that so many times. I'm very conflict adverse. Like, I am like hyper-conflict adverse. And so, uh, anything like that is like just completely like I, I just do not deal with it at all. Yeah, as little bit. Anyway, we'll get back to it, okay? Circumstances it can take six to nine months just to, just to have your own time of paperwork processed. And they often get the calculations wrong. Right. So we're like, well, why would it take so long to retire?

And they're like, well, because of the mine. They're like, what do you mean a mind? What's the mind got to do with retiring? And that's what we discovered. See, this is the thing, right? This is always, you know what this is like? This is like video games where it's like, oh, well, we can't let people, you have to farm out this item in order to get this energy thing in order to get this other item.

Well, have you ever considered that maybe you can just give people the item directly and not have to have this secondary system? And so this is the problem is that these people are so captured by this like bureaucratic fucking weight. And it's the same thing. I think about it in video games. It's in companies.

It's in the government. It's everywhere. And so this is what happens with everything. Like loading the stashes. Yes, exactly. Think about it in Diablo 4. This is exactly it. They have to render everybody's inventory. No, you don't. You don't have to do that. So the big problem that a lot of these

people have is that the focus they have is on this ridiculous shit. They're not even thinking about it from the right perspective. That all the retirement stuff is done by still done by paper in a process that looks identical to what occurred in the 1950s. Yeah, we can't do more retirement processing because there's a mind that we put all the information into and we can like what do you like you're, this is like a gotcha game. Well, we created this process. Well, we created this problem and so now it has to be like this. No. A snapshot of the mind when it first started in the 50s to today, it looks the same.

It's amazing. So how long do you think it'll take to turn over? We're working as fast as we can. Probably next couple of months we'll have this this overhauled. And you know, I really think again, like why are we subjecting our federal workers to processes that they actually have to go through a training just to retire? There's a whole training program that people have to go through in order to retire. I think we can do better for them. This is the work of a council of Cairns. And everybody knows it. This is what it is.

It's a bunch of people and their job is to ensure that they continue having their job. That's it. What the fuck are they training for? I don't know. This is it. It's crazy. The government jobs are training for it. This is outrageous.

What are they training? I'm so confused. probably how to figure out all the paperwork. Probably. Arm Mogadasi, Doge engineer. You go into these places, one of the more than a dozen engineers, first people to go into the agencies and view the computer data sets. Tell me what you're finding.

And for people who don't understand how that process works, explain it for them. Yeah. I'll say the first thing that got me really excited about Doge was learning, basically the state of government computers. Don't tell me that it's on XP. Don't tell me it's on Windows XP. It's government IT costs about $100 billion. And it's funding systems that are over 50 years old.

Bro, XP is like, that's new. That's new, new. In a case of something like Social Security or the IRS. So really critical systems are old. They cost a lot of money to maintain. and the efforts to improve them are often very delayed. So I thought I'm a software engineer that maybe can make a difference here. And that's really what inspired me at a high level.

So he got inspired because of how stupid it was. I could see that. Three about Social Security and a lot of words about it from here's. Because I bet there's a lot of guys that it's like you have the, chance to finally fix this massive existential problem. I bet they have so many people that are probably signing up to do this basically for free. They're like, finally, somebody's going to do something about this. And I've got to tell you, I think that's pretty fucking patriotic.

It is. Democrats have been saying about it. It's absurd that Elon Musk is trying to eliminate billions of dollars from social security. Elon Musk and President Trump have set their sights on cutting social security. Their goal is clear. Destroy social security from within. You're in the building. I mean, you're in the computers.

What's happening there? What are you doing? Yeah, it doesn't line up with my experience on the ground. And it's bullshit. The reason why they're saying that, it's the same as like, remember when Trump said he's going to cut the department education funding, but they're not going to cut support for people with special needs?

And then all the people on Twitter and, like, other places were saying, I can't believe Trump. Trump wants the special needs students to die. It's like you didn't even listen. You didn't even pay attention. They don't think, yeah, they're just lying, bro. I'll say the two improvements that we're trying to make to Social Security are helping people that legitimately get benefits, protect them from fraud. They're still saying that, yeah.

That they experience every day. Yeah, it's all hyperbole and lies. Exactly. And once you understand that their entire messaging, like their entire. messaging system is just like let's exaggerate and misrepresent something in an intellectually dishonest way and hope the stupid people that watch us believe it that's the entire strategy that's it that's what they do team basis and also make the experience better and i'll give you one example is at social security one of the first things we learned is that they get phone calls

every day of people trying to change direct deposit information. So when you want to change your bank account, you can call. Let me guess. Now there's going to be an online system that you can do it instead, and that way you don't have to call them. There's security. We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters. 40%.

That's right. Almost half. Yes. And they steal people's social security is what happens. They call in. They claim to be a retiree. Then they and they convince the social security person on the phone to change social engineering where money's flowing It actually goes to some fraudster

This is happening all day every day and and then Oh To an operate team and then somebody doesn't receive their social security is because of all the fraud loophole's in social security system How do you reassure people that what you all are doing is not going to affect their benefits? No, in fact What we're doing will help their benefits. Legitimate people as a result of the work of Doge will receive more social security, not less. I want to emphasize that.

As a result of the work of Doge, legitimate recipients of social security will receive more money, not less money. All right. So what he's saying is that Doge is going to cut Social Security for old people and it's going to let them die. That's pretty fucked up. Wow. Can you believe that? Jesus. That's horrible.

And let the record show that I said this, and it will be proven out to be true. Let's check back on this in the future. So Washington Post, the Social Security Administration website crashed four times in 10 days this month because the servers were overloaded, blocking millions of retirees and disabled veterans from logging into their online accounts.

Democracy dies in darkness. Man. Freaked people. out. We got to get these theater kids off the fucking internet, man. We got to, we have to take like if you're a theater kid, you have to work at the, like a

salt mine or something like that for like three years. You know, you've got to work in a coal mine for a while. Is that going to change? Yes, we're going to make sure that the website stays online. Yeah. I mean, but it's a result of going in there

or something you're doing. No, no. The amount of issues that were the social security system are enormous. As an example, there are over 15 million people that are over the age of 120 that are marked as alive in the social security system. And that's an accurate figure. Yeah. Correct. This has been something that's been identified as a problem, again, pre-existing problems since 2008 at least. Oh, God. Wow. Who made this problem? I wonder. from an IG report. So there were some great people working at the Social Security Administration that found this 2008, and nothing was done.

And so 15 to 20. So they tried to fix it. But they- Million social security numbers that were clearly fraudulent were floating around that can be used only for bad intentions. There'd be no way to use those for good intentions. And so one of the things the Doge team is doing is carefully and very method. And also, by the way, if 40% of the way, if 40% of their calls or fraud calls,

40% of the calls wouldn't be fraud calls if these people weren't getting paid out. Just think about this for a few seconds here, right? Like, if you've got all of these people spamming this, there's a reason for it.

That makes sense. Yeah, of course. Looking at those and making sure that any fraudulent ones are eliminated. Brad Smith, working at HHS. And obviously, a Other element is Medicare and Medicaid, NIH. Oh, they're going to cut that. What are you fine?

And they're going to kill all the old people. Well, I'd say there's a couple things we're really committed to in our work at HHS. Yeah. Number one, making sure we continue to have the best biomedical research in the world. And number two, making sure which President Trump has said over and over again, that we 100% protect Medicare and Medicaid. So they're going to cut Medicare and Medicaid. They're going to get rid of it.

That way old people die. A lot of opportunity. And poor people die. Today, if you're NIH researcher and you get $100 grant at your university, today you get to spend 60 of that and your university spends 40 of that. What? NIH is an example. Today, if you're an NIH researcher and you get a $100 grant at your university, today you get to spend 60 of that and your university spends 40 of that. The policy that we're proposing to make is that you get to spend 85 of that and your university spends 15.

So that's more money going directly to the scientists who are discovering new cures. Seems good. Yeah. Another example at NIH is today they have 27 different centers. They got created over time by Congress, and they're typically by disease state or body system. There's 700 different IT systems today at NIH. What? 700 different IT systems.

They can't speak to each other. So they don't talk to them. They have 27 different CIOs. And so when you think about... These people are making the Bible real. They're rebuilding the tower of Pabble Mac versus PC times 27 Well this is why guys

This is why we have the mine Is because all the paperwork is in the mine And we can go there for sure Do you see kind of how these problems Like it's basically like you have a house of cards And they hold each other up But none of these cards should fucking be There in the first place

I'm being sarcastic. This makes sense. Oh, I'm sure. Making great medical discoveries, you have to connect the data. Time out. You see 27 different chief information officers? Correct, correct. And most of them are non-technical.

So there's a lot there. There's a lot of opportunity. It will make science better, not worse. When I say that our job is tech support, I really mean it. Yeah. We have to fix the computers. So the problem is that nobody at the government knew how computers worked, I knew it.

Talk to each other, you can't get research done. If the computers can't stay online, people won't receive their Social Security. Yeah. So what we have here are a bunch of failing computers systems that are preventing people from receiving their benefits, that are preventing people from preventing research from happening, that are extremely vulnerable to fraud, and we're fixing it. And does that include AI? Does that include kind of changing the system?

overall. That's what I guess what people are afraid of, is they don't know. They're afraid of AI because there's some fucking retard that told them that AI is scary. Oh my God, they're going to have AI and then the AI machine is going to say it's going to be like Terminator. And it says, you know, please report to the local hospital to be exterminated at, you know, zero 600 tomorrow morning. like what is that how do any how does anybody buy this there's there are dozens of movies it's a reasonable fear yeah here we go this is this is good my first job was at the dmv as a software engineer my boss who is a development team lead never wrote a line of code in his life he had an MBA and information systems and about as much technical knowledge as my eight-year-old

son. Yep. What this is all looking like and is it going to affect me in the long term? It's going to affect them. It's going to affect people very positively. So the changes that we're doing here will ensure the solvency of the American government, of the American, of the United States of America. This is what we're trying to do is ensure that people do receive their benefits in the future. And you can only receive your benefits if the country is operating in a healthy and competent way. Up next, how the Doge team plans to streamline some federal jobs and agencies, and later, Elon Musk answers some of your questions that you asked.

Oh, boy, the Q&A. Anthony Armstrong, Doge, Office of Personnel Management, Morgan Stanley Banker, M&A guy. You know, money, and this is a lot of money sloshing around. There's a lot of money sloshing around. There's a lot of money sloshing out the door. And if you look at the federal government and the way the workforce works, a one-way ratchet over decades. It's only going up. It's only going up.

You never take it away. So that leaves you with duplicative functions. It leaves you with overstaffing. And it leaves you with Yeah, I don't know. Like, I mean, people say MBAs don't teach you IT. Whenever I was in college for business, like we had to learn process analysis like systems. And it would reverse engineer code that you would have to

use in order to optimize systems. But like that was in like 2000 and like 14. or, yeah, 2014. So, like, now they have that a little bit, but I don't know if they had that back then. Functions in the wrong places, so a couple of examples. Duplicative functions, Brad mentioned 27 CIOs. If you kept going with Brad, he probably talked about the communications office.

I think you've got 40 distinct communications offices in HHS, right? 40? Yeah. And that's not unusual. Wait, what? He would talk about the communications office. I think you've got 40. 40 distinct communications offices and there's 40 communications offices huh I'm sure we

need all of those HHS right yeah right and yeah and that's not unusual by by the way multiple offices like that I think anyone healthy this is not about the employees there's many many hardworking well-meaning people who took these jobs these jobs were out there they applied for them they took them they're doing what's there it's just that they're duplicating the effort of 40 offices so you've got that you've got overstaffing. A good example of overstaffing would be the IRS has got 1,400 people who are dedicated. I'll tell you right now, like, we got paid to do fucking nothing half the time. They would even say, you're getting paid to do nothing. Just sit there. I'm like, but I don't have to,

I don't have to, I don't have to lead till three more hours. He said, okay. What do you want to watch? Want to watch Lord of the Rings? Go to the break room, just watch TV. Okay. Great. Yeah. Easy money. ...into provisioning laptops and cell phones.

So if you join the IRS, you get a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned. So if each of those IRS officers or employees provisioned two employees per day, you could provision the entire IRS in a little more than a month. So 12 times a year, you can reprovision. Why would you have 1,400 people whose only job it is to give out a laptop and a phone? Right. The whole IRS could be handled. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What?

Top in a cell phone you've provisioned. So laptop IRS has got 1,400 people who are dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones. So there's 1,400 people. I thought it said 1,400 people that were getting them. There's 1,400 people it's their job to manage laptops and cell phones just to give them. You join the IRS, you get a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned. So if each of those IRS officers or employees provisioned two employees per day, you could provision the entire IRS in a little more than a month.

So 12 times a year you can reprovision. Why would you have 1,400 people whose only job it is to give out a laptop on a phone? Right. The whole IRS could be handled once a month. So that doesn't make any sense. And President Trump's been very clear. It's scalpel not hatch it. and that's the way it's getting done.

And then once those decisions are made, there's a very heavy focus on being generous, being caring, being compassionate, and treating everyone with dignity and respect. And if you look at how people have started to leave the government, it is largely through voluntary means. There's voluntary early retirement, there's voluntary separation payments.

We put in place deferred resignation, the eight-month severance program. So there's a very heavy bias towards programs that are long-dated, that are generous that allow people to exit and go and get a new job in the private sector. And you've heard a lot of news about wriths, about people getting fired. At this moment in time, less than 0.15, not 1.5, less than 0.15 of the federal workforce has actually been given a RIF notice. so they've selected.

So that's like, yeah, that's like one in like every 750 people or something like that. If they're a less. Basically almost no one's gotten fired. 850. Tom Krasn, working at Treasury. That's a lot. You are having access to the payment system oversees all the outgoing payments. Essentially those payments were going places we didn't know where they were going, right?

Yeah, unfortunately that's the case, right? You know, as an ex-CFO of a big public tech company, really what we're doing is we're applying public company standards to the federal government. And it is alarming how the financial operations and financial management is set up today. There is actually really only one bank account that's used to disperse all monies that go out of the federal government. Talking about one bank account. It's a big one. It's a big one. It's a big one.

A couple weeks ago, I had $800 billion in it, but it's the Treasury General account. So when you... What? $800 billion in it, but it's the... So there's just an account that has $800 billion in it? I'd... The Treasury General account. So when you hear, you know, some of my colleagues here what they're talking about in terms of the fraud,

you have to ask, well, why is this allowed to happen at a financial level? Well, it's actually quite simple, but alarming. the treasury up until now, and thanks to President Trump, we're fixing this. In fact, there was an executive order that he just signed the other day, which is protecting America's bank account because it really is the taxpayer's money. Yeah. You know, when we're changing the culture, the culture is been... Being fat, eating Cheetos, not working and complaining. Yeah.

Yep, that's about right. You got to change that. Not a lot of caring and not a lot of. commitment to doing what's right. That's what I said. Relative to financial operations. Yep. There's $500 billion of fraud every year.

There's hundreds of billion dollars of improper payments. And we can't pass an audit. The consolidated financial report is produced by Treasury and we cannot pass it out. We have material weaknesses. What that means is that if I was a public company, see it. They can't figure out worth of money. How is this possible? There's a lot of ways.

think of it as the convergence of the worst part of like five different things put together. So I would effectively be removed. I couldn't file financial statements. I couldn't issue securities. You can't pass a lot. Right. The criminal government cannot pass an audit. It's impossible.

In fact, in order to pass an audit, you need the information necessary to pass an audit. You need to have the payment codes. You need to have the payment. And this is the thing is you don't. have any of the information because some of it's in a mine. The other one is on a Mac. The other one's on a PC. There's four other language. Probably some of it's on COBOL. And then you have to put all it together. And then there's this one account where there's a lot of money. Yeah, this is, yeah, it's on Windows and E and this one's running on Linux. And so this is the thing is that people like

this. You know this. How many of you guys have ever had a, like, have been part of an organization that has a accountability abstraction mechanism that makes it to where nobody can ever really truly be at fault. So like there's never a point where a person makes a mistake. There's just a collective error that never really gets addressed, right? Yeah, we've all seen this happen, right? Yeah, sadly, I've never been in one. Good.

And yeah, boomers understand the words you just mentioned. Well, they do in practice. It's nuts, man. or runs an opinion to, yeah, diffusing responsibility, exactly. People are terrified of personal accountability and so they create these systems

to protect themselves. Explanation and you need to have a person to contact to understand why that payment was made. None of those things were mandatory until just recently, just a few weeks ago. So you didn't even have to explain... We're serving 580 plus agencies

and up until very recently effectively they could say make the payment and Treasury just sent it out. as fast as possible. No verification. And so what we're doing is what any household would do. But imagine your household, you have a bank account. Everyone has an ATM card connect to that account. Everyone has a checkbook connect to that account. It's not just your children. It's not just your parents. It's your in-laws. It's your extended family. And they all can go to the account and disperse funds. No questions asked. No justification. No verification.

Up next, the Doge team targets government contracts. Oh, God. what they're finding. Man. Tyler hasson, interior department. Why didn't they send me a million dollars? Because you're not related to somebody that works at the federal government, apparently, right? I don't know.

This is insane. I can't believe this is all happening right now in our lifetime. I can. Anybody who's ever worked at a big company or at the government knows that this is, if you have, you know it's probably worse than what they're saying. That's the truth. It's probably even worse than what's being said here.

You're a former oil company CEO. You're reviewing contracts before they're approved for funding. What are you funding? Well, Elon and Steve kind of stole my thunder a little bit, but I actually found that customer service survey contract. I actually have an example of one right here. I could have done this in high school. So this right here, this gentleman, this right here,

It was $880 million. Is that right? $800 million? It was... Damn. Damn. That's crazy. Wow.

I found it... It's not bad. I found it on the weekends because under the Biden administration... 800 billion? No, no. It was almost $1 billion. It was $800 million.

No departmental oversight within the Department of Interior. You go back and watch it. None. We are now reviewing every single contract, every single grant. And when things come to my attention that don't make sense, I'm bringing him to Secretary Bergam, and he's been fantastic. He's a businessman. He's very supportive of Doge.

It's been wonderful to work with him. Is the battle between government of decades and decades of buildup and business, which you guys are? It's the roaches. That's the problem. You got all these roaches that are entrenched in this shit, and they don't want to get exposed. They don't want you to pick up the rock that they've been living under for 30 years. And so they put like five other rocks on top of their rock, and they hope that you can't get through all the other rocks to get to their rock.

But then whenever you finally get to their rock, they're fucking pissed. Is that like a train hitting each other? I mean, it seems like it's pretty disruptive. Well, this is a revolution. And I think it might be the biggest revolution government since the original revolution. But at the end of the day, America is going to be in much better shape. America will be solvent. Get the roaches out.

The critical programs that people depend upon will work, and it's going to be a fantastic future. But are we going to get a lot of complaints along the way? Absolutely. One of the things I learned to PayPal was the, you know, who complains the loudest and with the most amount of fake, righteous indignation? People that are scamming and trying to get you to give them money? The fraudsters. Yep. Yep.

That's right. No, because you know how, like the thing is that roaches, whether you've got a roach at PayPal, you've got a roach in a wow guild, you've got a roach at the government, or you've got a roach at a company, a roach is a roach. They're all the same. That's, it's a tell. You understand. That are crazy, like the $2 billion to Stacey Abrams, the NGO that basically didn't exist and suddenly

gets $2 billion awarded from the federal government. she has why and there are many such cases like that i think that most people common sense wise would say the fraud's got to end yeah they're concerned about the 94 year old mother who skips a check or somehow doesn't get what she's supposed to get right and what we're trying to say is actually that that the 94 year old grandmother is is actually as a result of joe doge's work going to get her check yeah because before she was getting finessed by some guy, you know, living in, I don't know, India, Nigeria, or maybe just Indiana, do not redeem. Okay, so yes, this is me.

My name is Bill Government. I'm John Government. Okay, so what is your, what is the amount of money? Okay, so you're going to deposit into this account. So this is how you buy cryptocurrency and then you have to send it over to this wallet. Okay, no, no, no. You have to capitalize that letter. Okay, no, you hold down the shift button and then you, okay, just put caps lock and then hit E and then put it cap.

Okay, there you go. All right, now put a J. Do not rent team. Going to be robbed by fraudsters like she's getting rough today. And the solvency of the federal government will ensure that she continues to receive those social security checks that Medicare continues to work. without which we're all doomed. The reason we're doing this is because if we don't do it, America's going to go insolvent.

We're going to go bankrupt. And nobody's going to get anything. Why are you guys all doing it? I mean, you can pipe up, but you don't have to be here, right? I mean, you don't have to be doing this. I'll tell you the reason why. It's because most people, if they're given the opportunity, will do something, and it's not most people,

but a lot of guys that are really hard workers have some sort of drive to do it, and a lot of them care about doing something that matters, right? And to an extent, this is an ego thing, right? Where it's like, okay, you're going to put me in charge. I'm going to fix this shit. And it's been something that I've been growing up my whole life hearing about. I finally have the chance to fix it.

I'm going to do it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to fuck it. Best way to knock it tax? Yeah, somebody's got to do it. I would. I would, yeah. But we have a real fiscal crisis.

And this is not sustainable. And it's the same thing with the military, right? I mean, if you've got people in there that are trying to talk about being a girl on the front lines of the military, this really isn't going to attract a lot of young men that are like young men are the ones that go out and get killed. That's what happens. It's not older middle-aged women. It's young guys. And so when you have the guy that's running the military that has tattoos of the crusades on them and the commercial is a big guy lifting a lot of weights and it says strong people are harder to kill, this is very, this resonates really strong.

with like 19-year-olds, 19-year-old guys. That's it. And so it's the same thing with this in a different way. If you want to bring in people that are, you know, successful, you have to reward success and give those people a degree of, you know, I guess like power, you could say. And it's also just to give them credibility. You know, you give them the ability to make change.

So that's really it. autonomy, exactly. And that's what really matters the most. Give them credit, yes. What's worse, back to my children and everyone else's children is we are burning them with that debt. And it's only going to grow. Steve, there's not a lot of hierarchy here. You guys are kind of all approaching it in different, you know, silos, but with the same kind of goal, right? I mean, this is really Silicon Valley private sector colliding with government. Yeah, exactly. We're headed in a bad path. But that the, chance of success exists and just the one that just is in my head right now which is a fairly

mundane one but I think is very illustrative is credit cards. Oh yeah. Those are bad. In the federal government around 4.6 million. No, I don't want to. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Million credit cards for around 2.3 to 2.4 million employees. What? There are in the federal government around 4.6 million credit cards. for around 2.3 to 2.4 million employees. This doesn't make sense. Right.

And so one of the things all the teams have worked on is we've worked for the agencies and said, do you need all of these credit cards? Are they being used? Can you tell us physically where they are? On free, can. Actually, on a different note, the rewards program the federal government has

is actually not very good. That's a whole other... It's a negotiation. Yeah, exactly. But so far the teams have worked together, have worked together and they've reduced it from 4.6 million to 4.3 million. So we're still- We're taking it easy. Yeah.

But clearly there should not be, you know, they should not be more credit costs than there are people. Joe, middle-level employees, are they seeing a benefit to being empowered by taking out bureaucracy? I mean... Absolutely. I mean, I think what you're seeing is taking the best of Silicon Valley in the business world and bringing it into the government.

We're bringing the best practices and the best methodologies. and people are inspired. This is one thing a lot of people have been complaining about where they say, oh, well, the government isn't a company. It's not a private company. It shouldn't be run like a private company. Why not? Why not?

Why is it a bad thing that these guys that want to save money? Why is this an issue? It's a business. Well, it's not about whether it's a business or not. It's about optimizing the money. that's what it's about. Like there's an amount of money that you're spending and an amount of money that you're getting.

And the fact is that it sure seems like they're wasting a lot of fucking money. On the retirement processors I can speak to, they've been trying to modernize and get off of paper since early 2000s. Very unsuccessfully.

Every attempt has gone over budget and been canceled because it hasn't been successful. And so, you know, I showed up and I feel like I'm here because it's an interesting problem. We can use design to solve it and good engineering and really create a better experience for everybody. We're talking about elementary financial controls that are necessary for any company to function. Yeah.

So like if these can, if the federal government, if a commercial company operated the way the federal government does, then it would be immediately go bankrupt. Yeah. It would be delisted. The officers would be arrested. The changes we're putting in place. It will enable the federal government to pass an audit. It will enable taxpayers to know where the money is going.

Sorry, the government is not supposed to be provided like a company. I think it should be closer to a company. Why not? Why not? Why is it bad that if this was, if, so basically what you're saying is that if the people that were held, if the people that were in charge of this could be held accountable, they would go to jail. And so this is somehow okay? Why is it okay? I don't understand this at all

it's crazy yeah past the back dude they're running things like 30 years ago I know this is unbelievable man that they're harder and tax tax dollars are being spent well yeah the ways that the government is defrauded

is that the computer systems don't talk to each other so if the computer systems don't talk to each other then you can you can exploit that gap and frauds to exploit that gap to take advantage. For example, there were over $300 million of a small business administration loans that has been given out to people under the age of 11. We need to have audits of the people, the families that receive these loans. You need to have the audits. You've got to figure out where this money went. That's what's got to happen. Who are they? Yeah, see, this is the issue.

is that like I agree with all this stuff, but you need to actually get the people that are doing it. You do a company's trying to get profit. Government should not? Well, the government isn't about getting, why should the government not try to get a profit? Wait, why not? Why do we just decide that the government shouldn't try to improve its profit? Who decided that? Really? Like, what is, what a dumb frame of reference. We've decided this. This is insane. Retarded tech no, it's not. It's not

at all. Didn't Clinton have a budget surplus? I think Clinton had a surplus, right? Yeah. So we had this, was that bad? Like, I, what?

Election, to add to it is $300 million under the age of 11 and over 300 million to over the age of 120. Definitely. Small business loans. Correct. Yes. The oldest American is 114.

So it's safe to say if their age is 150 or above, they're fake. Or they should be in the Guinness Book of World Records. Yeah. And we should not be giving out loans to babies. So the youngest recipient of a small business administration loan is a nine-month-year-old, which is a very very cautious baby we're talking about here. How much? So obviously it was just fraudulent.

And they do terrible things. They actually will see that a kid's been born. They will steal that kid's social security number and then take out a loan and leave that kid with a bad credit rating. So this kid gets spawned in with bad R&G? That's awful. The terrible things are being done. They're spawn camping. We're stopping these terrible things.

This is outrageous. We are stopping. The reason this is happening is because the two systems are not talking to each other. Yes. Right. And so you don't know at the small business administration that you're giving a loan to a nine-month-old, which happened in one case, because you're not cross-referencing that with the Social Security Administration data that has birth dates. So that very, very simple fix eliminates tremendous. Okay. So now you see how it comes together. So because the systems can't communicate with each other, they can never cross-reference the data to check to see if it's authentic or not. And okay. Right.

Oh, my. Well, what the fuck? That's not a real problem? You really think this is not a real problem? I, guys, I think it's worse than what they're explaining. I do. I think it's worse than what they're explaining.

Absolutely. Shame that guy. Yeah, who said that? and that there are multiple systems across the government where the systems are not keep in mind they haven't even talked about the military yet they haven't even gotten there you think this is bad this is like bro this is like their farming experience for the boss fight the boss fight's going to be the fucking military budget came with one another and if you just solve that simple problem you would solve a huge amount of fraud are you so sorry are you so

One of the key tricks that the frauds is pull is that they will use the fact that someone is marked as live as sort of just that that social security number is marked as live in social security. Yeah. And then then get disability and unemployment insurance for a dead person. Because the databases don't talk to each other, all they got was from social security is like. And it's because it's a stupid fucking employees to do it because the employees don't care because everything in the federal government, like we all probably have this like we've all had one of these right where it's like you have a performance graph where it's like a one through 10 one through five system governments one through five three is good two is bad four is great five is amazing one is what the fuck right it's

pretty simple yeah you have your kpIs key performance indicators these people and this is what happened at the irs they get paid for how many how many documents they process. So they're not trying to get it right. They're trying to meet the KPI's. Is this person alive? Yes. They're not alive. They're not alive. They're Man Maxi, yes. A person's falsely mocked is alive in Social Security. But that was a fraudster can now get unemployment and disability from a dead person. This is happening all the time at scale. Are you surprised at some of the legal efforts? and some of the judges that have weighed in.

There's about eight or ten now of these cases that are at least temporary holds. They're being challenged by the DOJ. Are you surprised by that pushback? Well, the D.C. Circuit is notorious for having a very far left plan. I also think that it's very simple. They've created all these laws and these protection apparatuses in order to ensure that the Roach Cave never gets turned over and exposed. So I think that you have all of these rules and all of these systems that are designed,

they're supposed to compound on each other, and there's all of this bureaucratic red tape, and this is working as intended. This is it, Democrat Roach Cave. It's not the Democrat Roach Cave. This is the unironic swamp. Whenever Trump said drain the swamp, this is the swamp. this is the swamp right here. That's it.

And it's by design, exactly. Yes, they made it there on purpose. You still have to change the rules first. I agree. I think that they should. And when you look at the people close to some of these judges, where are they working? Oh, they're working at these NGOs.

Oh, they're the ones getting this money. Does that seem like a system that lacks corruption? It sounds like corruption to me. Why are we not getting the audits? Like, look at their last 10 or 5 years of financial reports. Look at their 1040s. Look at their 1099s. Look at their, you know, fucking, what do you call it?

Their pay stubs, their revenue. Where is this money going? How are they investing it? You can't? Why not? It's easy. Yeah, it's easy. You figure out who's a.

involved, you pull it up, you just go through. It's like basically, you could run this through an algorithm where it's like this person's getting paid this much for their salary, and if they're reporting an income that is too much of a variance away from that base number, it flags the account and then somebody looks at it. I feel like this is common fucking sense. There's no paper trails for some? Well, then you figure it out. Fraud GPT, yes. It's so easy. Do you guys all see this as a patriotic duty? Is that really what this is about? It's essential.

I do 100%. I was running five businesses in Houston, and I left that. I left great people to do this. And my wonderful wife said, go for it. And here I am. But I feel like this is me giving back to the country. If we don't do this, we're sunk. You got to get the roaches out, man.

Unless this exercise is success. the ship of America will sink. That's why we're doing it. Too many roaches in the ship. I really appreciate the time. Way too many roaches. And hopefully it took some of the myth and mystery out of Doge and what's happening behind the scenes.

Thank you. What's hilarious is that if you get audited, the IRS will find every fucking cent that you owe, but we're talking about billions of dollars here that can't be traced. And you're also talking about people like, these aren't people that are like washing their money through 17 different Solana Monaro

fucking crypto accounts, right? They're not doing this through like a Cayman Islands gambling profit, fucking scheme that's then being reported in a different country. Like, they're not doing this. They're just probably, like, most of the people that are doing it's just fucking retards. And I guarantee you, if you just look into it, it'll be obvious.

Some of them will be smart, but most of them won't. We asked on Axe, your platform, for some questions. And here is C. Spurling. He writes, are they happy with the speed at which they're making changes? Are there any changes they would like to make but haven't yet? Go faster. I think in the context of the government, we're moving like lightning. In the context of what I'm used to moving, it's slower than I'd like.

So what seems like incredibly fast action. I want to see the arrest. Yeah, that's the thing. It's to me, like, none of this matters unless you crucify the people that have been doing it. Like, because unless we find the people that have been committing the fraud, and there are some cases where the fraud is not actual fraud, it's just them not giving a fuck so much that it's basically fraud. you need to have individual personal accountability for those people.

It's slower than I'd like to be totally frank. But we're all making solid progress. A very sort of thorny problem, a tough problem. Really, it's kind of like painful homework, frankly, is reconciling all of the government databases to eliminate the waste and fraud. These databases don't talk to each other. And that's really the source of... That's the biggest vulnerability for fraud, is the fact that these databases don't talk to each other.

So we need to reconcile databases. It's a frankly painful homework, but it has to be done. Criminal negligence? Yeah, exactly. Greatly improve the efficiency of the government systems. We didn't talk about any plans to approach cuts at the Pentagon. You're in there. The Pentagon has not passed an audit in a very long time. I mean, as crazy as it sounds, they will lose $20, $30 billion a year.

and they don't know where they literally don't know where it went does anybody really believe that they don't know where it went do we really think that we they don't know where it went uh oops what happened i bet people know where it went what a bunch of this is crazy i'll be right back yeah it's always funny for me to see the people that try to defend this stuff too it's like i bet this is worse than they're even explaining I do. I think 15% is a low number.

Also examples of the countries, although their garment systems must be connected, yeah. You can't keep assets secret if they're on the books? Yeah, and that's why they're probably not. But there's always ways to figure this stuff out. I mean, Senator Collins was telling me about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for extra submarines. Got zero extra submarines. I heard that we actually did get two submarines. I heard this was not true, that there were two submarines.

Don't understand what political stance to make you think cleaning up the finances of the U.S. is a bad thing? It's simple. It's just directly oppositional to whatever is in power because it's bad. That's it. There's no thinking beyond that. And then when you held a hearing, said, where'd the $12 billion go?

They didn't know. Talking to those guys, and you have a great team from all over the country. Where are they? I don't know. You don't have to be here. You don't have to be here. You know, there's now been these many kids. cases of violence and vandalism at Tesla dealerships.

How does that affect your employees, your customers? What does it mean to you? It's annoying. Like, how have you taken that in? Well, I think a great wrong is being done. Yeah, yeah, this is the way that Democrats and the liberals and leftists are protesting Tesla and fighting against who they believe is a Nazi is by carving swastikas and destroying people's cars. and setting them on fire.

Yeah, I don't know why this would happen, but for some reason it does. Makes sense? Yeah, it sure does, right? The people of Tesla and to our customers. Tesla is a peaceful company. Our freedom fighters. Great cars, great products.

That's what it's done. Hasn't harmed anyone. And yet people are committing violence. They're firebombing Tesla dealerships. They're shooting guns into stores. This is crazy. like who's doing this like it really i mean and and you see the people that are doing this these are just idiots that have been whipped up into a frenzy by the internet

that's what's going on man what's this going to look like 10 20 years from now dude in two years this is going to look like the biggest joke that you've ever seen this is going to look like a massive this will not like you know how like nowadays people look back at the BLM riots and they're like wow that was really stupid that was dumb. This is how everybody's going to look at the Tesla stuff, but even more so. They're threatening people.

They're issuing death threats against me and another Tesla personnel. What are they doing this for? Why? And what's happening, it seems to me, is they're being fed propaganda by the far left. Yes. And they believe it.

That's literally what it is. Yeah, he's right. Yep. It's really unfortunate. But the real problem is not the people, it's not like the crazy guy that firebombs a Tesla dealership. It's the people pushing the propaganda that caused that guy to do it. Those are the real villains here. And we're going to go after them.

And the president's made it clear. We're going to go after them. The ones providing the money, the ones pushing the lies and propaganda. propaganda. We're going after them. I want to see it. I do. I want to see it. This is what needs to happen. But Elon's acting on propaganda himself, so it's gross from to say this? Not really. I mean, like, if you have, if you have somebody that's putting out information that, you know, basically, like, they make a website and the website's cursor is a Molotov cocktail.

This is a website that, and it gives you a location of Tesla owners and Tesla viewerships around the country, the person that made that needs to go to jail. And it dockses the owners. Yeah, they need to go to jail. There's no other universe where that's okay. It's obvious what's going on here, right? Everybody knows this. Like, fuck off. Yeah, exactly. What is this? Not a hypothetical? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, but what about free speech? It's not free speech. When you are doing something that is facilitating and promoting violence directly, that's not free speech. It's never been free speech. This isn't a free speech issue. And you don't even believe that either. Like, by the way, this is very important to keep in mind. All the people that start crying about free speech, they were fine watching people get deplatformed completely for not agreeing with LGBT enough or, you know, having a different view on.

George Floyd. They had no problem with that. So they don't believe in free speech themselves. They don't care about it. They're using your own ideal against you, hoping that you'll acquiesce to their disingenuous comparison. Do not do that. Do not play a game that they have built for you to lose.

That's it using it wrong? Yes, this is not what's happening. This is not, these are not people that care about free speech. Yeah, burning down a car is not free. speech. And it's been this evolution. I mean, the last administration was going to mandate electric vehicles. And now you see on the far left, some efforts to go after electric vehicles. It's quite something. It is ironic. Yeah. I mean, it seems like the most ironic outcome is the most likely. But, yeah, I mean... Personally, it's got to take a total. That's what I said before.

You know, you have like a Occam's razor is the simplest answer is the smartest one. I think today in America, we should have retards razor. The dumbest answer is the correct one. So think of the dumbest reason possible for why something is happening. That's why it's happening. It does.

Yeah. It does. I think there's some real evil out there. And we have to overcome it. There's roaches. I mean, you have been called a Nazi, a white supremacist, a fascist. I mean, I've got this sort of

Just to name a few. Everybody that's called a fascist is called the Nazi. Everybody that's called the Nazi is called the white supremacist. Like, there's all, like, when you're one of them, you're all of them. I mean, they've still got it. I guess they still need to call me Stalin, Muslim, you know, whatever. And you're not. Or whatever.

I mean, they've called the president all these things. Yeah. Nobody cares. There was a magazine cover which said the president was worse than, the President Trump was worse than Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin combined. And the president hasn't killed anyone. He hasn't started any wars. In fact, he's good at stopping wars.

So this is obviously just, they're pushing these lies. And why do they push these lies? And I think that we need to hold people responsible for pushing these lies. because those lies almost got the president killed. What's something that... I think it's important to make sure that people have like a right to free speech and a right to say what they think. But there's a big difference between that and the people that are advocating for violence and stuff like that. And I think that like any reasonable person can tell the difference between somebody that creates like a doxing website for like burning down Teslas and it like shows where all the owners live.

and somebody that says, like, I don't think somebody should go to jail for saying Elon Musk is like a Nazi, right? Or like Trump is like Hitler. Like, I don't want to have somebody go to jail for that. I think that's, you don't want to talk about like Doge, you know, like reducing federal spending. I don't, I don't want to, I don't want my money going to that. I think that's stupid. But the reality is that you need to look at the people that are doing it. And I think also we have a very, very big issue with mental health. And people nowadays are crazy. Like, I think. think COVID one shot about 20% of the population. Actually, it's more like 10 to 5% of the population. It's 20% of the internet population. And what happened to them is that their brain is just totally

fucking destroyed by COVID. And it, like the COVID messaging, the COVID culture, the arrested development for young adults and children that grew up during COVID, COVID totally fuck them up. And so what's happened now is that we have a culture of mental illness and retardation, basically. And this is like a prevailing problem that we have. Like a lot of these people that are violent, like these Tesla people or whatever, if you listen to them talk or you listen to like what they're saying or doing, they're usually dressed like idiots, they act like idiots, they talk like idiots. There's something wrong with these people. and at a certain point, why are these people out going around? Like, we need to, I'm going to be honest, I think we need to bring back mental institutions.

And I know that there's bad things about them. But I think that these people are going out and they're crazy. They're crazy. And the entire, this is the problem, right, is that the world now has to accommodate these crazy, antisocial, psychotic people that are destroying society. and all of society has to conform around the way that they contrive it. We've got, yeah, we've got to have Arkham Asylum or something like that, and they reproduce, yes, in some cases, right? And that's it, without shock therapy and fewer lobotomies?

Yeah, maybe not as many lobotomies, right? And to be fair, these people have already lobotomized themselves, so it wouldn't even be necessary. But these people can't be in a civilized society if they're going to behave this way. They're just not. Like you can't, you can't reconcile that with an average population. And that's a big problem. Because you have mobile phone cameras. And, yeah, that's a big reason.

And back to the point of people being weak, it's hard to face yourself for your problems, lots to blame others. Yeah, I think there's a lot of cultural things that you can change, right? And, yeah, some of them dress normal and work for the government. Well, not for long. People wouldn't know about the president. You're pretty close to them now. You spend a lot of time with them. What's something that people wouldn't know?

I think the president is a good man. I think he is an honest man. And I have yet to see him do anything mean or anything that is wrong, that I would say morally wrong. Not even once. You know, a lot is coming your way. But sometimes you say stuff or post stuff that gets attention. You give it out, in other words. Arizona Senator Mark Kelly posted on X about his trip to Ukraine to push for continuing to send U.S. weapons and support there, and you posted that he was a traitor.

This is a good question. Why do that? Well, I think somebody should care about the interests of the United States above the interests of another country. Yeah. And if they don't, they're a traitor. Yeah. But he's a decorated veteran, a former astronaut, a sitting U.S. senator. That doesn't mean it's okay for him to put the interests of another country above America.

Obviously, there are some Republicans. Yeah, I mean, I agree. True. Do you think supporting Ukraine is the right thing still, but there is a battle back and forth about how do you think it comes to an end? Well, I think there will be a negotiated peace. and the thing that we should be concerned about is we should have empathy for the thousands of people that are dying every day in trenches, for no movement in the lines.

So the borders remain the same. For the past two years, thousands of people have died every week for nothing. For what? And I take great offense at those who those who put the appearance of goodness over the reality of it. This is what happens when you're the CEO of Twitter is that you get to see this.

This is a... Bro, I've been saying this shit. These people care more about looking good than doing good. That's what it's about, man. It's virtue signores. Apps of fucking Lutley. 100% that's what it is. Yep.

Those who virtue signal... This is like, You know, I'll give you a good example. It's like all these people that are like making these excuses for Assassin's Creed Shadows saying that it's so good and, oh, no, it's an amazing game and you're just racist that you don't like it. What they did is they insulated Ubisoft from any sort of legitimate real feedback and criticism. And they did the same thing with Star Wars outlaws. And they insulated Ubisoft from any criticism to make themselves feel good for pushing a social value that they view as virtuous. and the end result is that Ubisoft employees will lose their jobs.

They will get fired. And soon they won't have, they're not going to have a job because they're going to get replaced by people in China. And does that matter to the people that made excuses for these games and tried to like carry water for them? No, absolutely not because they care about feeling good. And if the consequence of them feeling good is that somebody loses their job because they've created a world that doesn't exist. well then that's just what happens. Do you see kind of like how this happens is that these people, and you can see this a lot, it's like all these rallies, for example, for these people that are like rallying against ice,

it's just a rally full of a bunch of white people that live in Minnesota. You live in Washington or Portland, and you're talking about like how illegal immigration isn't a problem for you. Yeah, of course it's not because it's not happening to you. And these people constantly have a massive amount of empathy for things that they no longer, like they basically, they never have to face the consequences of their own empathy. And I think that that's the main issue. And social media has increased the currency that weaponized empathy like this gives you. And so that's why you have so many people tweeting about AI being bad or Elon being bad or Tesla bad or like something. or like something else is good, DEI good.

It's all about appearing like you're doing the right thing. And it's never actually about doing the right thing. It's pathological altruism. It's selfish altruism. It's not wrong to be empathetic, but yes, you're right. The problem is that they're not being empathetic. They think they're being empathetic, but the core goal that they have is making themselves feel good.

They care more about making themselves feel good than making things good. They don't want, they don't care about actually improving anything. They only care about being seen as a good person. So it's completely narcissistic and ego-driven. And that's why I think, by the way, a lot of the people that are pushing this are a bunch of narcissistic, ego-driven young women.

That's the reason. That's exactly it. It's the social currency that it provides. And if you look at these different approaches, protests, that's what it is. And it's primarily, yeah, it's Karen's. Say, oh, we can't give in to Russia, but have no solution to stopping thousands of kids dying every day. They just want that to continue forever. Have contempt for such people. I don't want to make that clear.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're optimistic. Because they're butchew signaling. And they're... So this is completely out of touch, take, brother, with all the respect. That's not respectful at all. Okay, go watch one of these protests. Go watch one of the protests for, like, or whatever, and you're going to see a bunch of shrieking Banshee Karens. Every single time. Their lack of a solution means that kids don't have a father. It means that parents lost a son.

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Yep. Well, I'm glad I watched this. I mean, I definitely am a Doge supporter. I think the government's full of clowns and they waste tons of money and they're full of retards. And yeah, apparently there's more of it. I'll watch more of it. I don't want to watch any more of it today. I think that's enough for today to watch.

But I do definitely agree with the rest of it. Good. Nothing critical. Just dick-sucking from Fox. I feel like the question about Mark Kelly was very critical. And I think that they asked a lot of questions that people brought up, like especially Social Security, Medicaid, etc. I feel like they asked that in a pretty good way.

I mean, I don't know what else to really say other than that.