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Episode Date: July 9, 2025

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POE1 felt way better. This video Quinn made about Path of Exile 2. Let's take a look at it. I played Warrior and I played Honduras. A bit funky. No man, it was hard. My first pack of monsters killed me. The freaking environment was insane.

The character looks cool. The attacks were pretty cool. The animation's good. I think much will put PEO1. It's just slow as cook. All of them are selling vehicles. Did I buy orbs? How does this work?

Wait, is this all for gold? What is this gold? Okay, and I buy things for gold. What is this? What is this? And I haven't found any earth, but I think we saw an orb. Right, do I have an instant life? What is going on with gold?

Why is gold? I feel like everybody is freaking out about gold and POE2. People are going so crazy about this. I don't think it's a big deal. You use gold to buy items from vendors. What the fuck is the problem with that? That's fine. The game.

Now, I am not sure how I feel about gold yet. I wonder how that's going to be used in the end. that's going to be used in the end game and stuff yeah i don't think that's a big thing i'm the most skeptical about so far there's no way that gold is real that was an interesting one but i mean it could be interesting it could be good they're just fucking with people we'll just have to wait and see i uh a lot of my predictions there's no one actually a golden game right my rewatch it's not gold in the capacity yeah it's not it's it's not the way that people think it is it's kind of a big deal will lead to tons more rmt i think it's like i don't want to see again i

I said this with Diablo 4 a lot. I don't want to see a game be handicapped in its quality and be made unintuitive for new players or hard to understand because you're worried about RMT. There is RMT and POE that's in the game right now. That's just what there's going to be RMT no matter what. I don't want to see the game handicapped because some people might cheat. L-ECHO, can I just throw that in comment?

Wait, okay, how does this work? Am I going to get six or four? One, two, three, four, five? I pull up blogging dude Okay Spell Echo 6 Wow

Yeah I've said before Um that I actually would be okay With a currency marketplace But I think that the item marketplace And the item selling should be the same Because the currency marketplace Like for anybody who actually plays

Path of Exile knows that Everybody that you're buying and selling currency from are just bots They're all just fucking bots Like what is this Oh No, wait, really? Surely, uh, skill panel, character screen? Oh, no, I can't see it. I want the skill tree.

Okay, arc is really good. Okay, I know that makes sense, right? That makes sense. That makes sense. Wow, that's so smooth. Hey, this just died. Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! They said, oh, oh, no, I'm not dying. I feel like one of the reasons why people die a lot in POE, too, like what I just seen is that people play POE 2 like they play POE 1. And so like they overpull and they grab a bunch of

mobs and aoe them all down. But like it, that's just not the way the game's meant to be played. It's like a little bit of a delay. I do think that like as as people get better gear in POE 2 and like you have like five seasons or 10 seasons into Path of Exile 2, I do think that the gameplay will get closer to POE 1 where like it's clearing screens, aoeing things down. etc. I feel like that's what's gonna happen. Oh, and it's not even a hard box. Yo, Zizai again!

Let's go! Let's go! Oh, that was good. Yeah, the map is a lot better too. This is infinitely better than the current P-OE map. After run back. Oh, that's a weird-looking map. Yeah.

We checked the survey, right? That's a way-looking map. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, what's he doing? What's he doing? What's he doing? That's hard.

I don't know. Gameplay, Chad, I'm going to be honest. I want a higher stunts threshold. I don't like this game play. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. One thing that I don't like about POE1, and I hope they change the way it's designed, is the stun. I really don't like the flinch mechanism whenever a mob hits you for a lot of damage, and it makes your character flinch or get stunned.

I feel like that's one of the worst feeling mechanics in the entire game. Um, uh-oh. Wow. Oh, uh-oh. Oh, I actually can't get a bullet. Oh, oh. The hell, folks, it's not. I think they just probably haven't updated it.

What's happening this? Not a new spot here. My name is Izrin. Hope you guys are enjoying Excel pod and try to die less than I do. You've got a lot. Yo, what the fuck is going on there, brother? The map's blocking the screen.

Yeah. I just think they'll probably update out later. I'm gonna get the disability takes. Okay. So you just play what, 45 minutes in the game? Yeah, I played Boria, and I played Hondras. Okay. You made warrior,

And address? A bit clunky. A bit clunky? Yeah. I've heard that a couple times now. I need a dedicated movie skill. We only have their fucking roll. Although worry, he did have leap slam,

but the cast time is like a movie is. Clunky. I wonder if it's actually clunky or if, because I haven't played it, right? So I'm not sure. But, or it's just a lot slower than POE1, so people aren't used to the difference. yeah i i don't know yet

no links you're fucking zdpcass i count on a rare on a face tank in his life regentist i couldn't kill it is what it is you couldn't kill the rear oh i mean i

i don't that that's probably a bit much you know i guess it's animations yeah animations i think determine clunkiness whereas like the speed doesn't determine clunkiness usually oh shit so wait if you give me a peli right out of 10 right after your first 45 minutes experience yeah I mean

P.O.E.1 felt way better I mean but I felt with no gear right I was like yeah the skills were cool but a few you just felt waste me because of oh when you play it the mouse in sympathy he's fucking got to move like 10 yards just to move your mouse a little bit oh my god Peely one was better dude ruthless was the beta that it feels like I'm playing ruthless it feels like it's playing ruthless I feel like who played PEOE in like 2013 because PEOE in 2013 felt a lot like Ruthless

Am I crazy? Because that's the way it felt to me Yeah, it did And like there were some advantages of that Oh shit, what the fuck Ruthless was easy To me, that wasn't good Yeah, ruthless was easy

I think the demo is intentionally tuned though You've got like your gazed dog shit Although maybe I didn't Maybe I tried the weapon stuff to think of it But I'm not idea what the past skills Like animation because we were stuck in place, yeah. So it was over tuned.

Yeah, I bet that it was probably like super overtuned. Okay, it's kind of disbanded. You're kind of a... Well, no, because you are massively on the pier. Yeah. You are massively on the air. Yeah. But no links. Like, actually no links. All men. Then again, Ben did

all Uber's on like a one link over the counter, right? Okay, well, that's, that's one take. That's one take. The right? The right, oh, okay. It's the right take. We'll see about that.

We'll see about that. We'll just did the demo, so let me get you to take on the movie. Oh, yeah. Have you touched it yet? I watched the Zizz. I watched the Zizz experience. Uh-huh. And he just died like a bitch repeatedly.

Yeah, I mean... He died like a... He just, like, a little bitch. I'd love to see you play the character I just played. It would be... He's just already talking shit. He'd something. I would annihilate, mess.

I'm a deeper main. That's kind of why I think I sucked so much just now because I had like the default like memory imprinted still. It's tough to readjust. But no man, it was hard. Like it was, yeah. Hard or what? My first pack of monsters killed me.

So like I ran into the area right. And it's like a hasted extra damage count. I'm gonna laugh if like by the time the new beta comes out next year in June. Like it's way fucking. easier and everybody is like getting concerned about this for no reason and it just turns out to be a total joke when it comes out a few other like dudes and i just got gang bang to die and i'm just like okay well um yeah what were you playing the warrior the warrior basically like the marauder style thing okay and like it's got like three attacks that have like two second bindups and i just you just can't do anything man and also

it starts you off with like hell of weak shit so you know wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait You're sounding like you didn't have that great of experience here. I mean, I didn't have much like an experience. I'd like 15 minutes. Yeah, I think this is kind of like a good example is that if you had made Dark Souls 3 first and then you made Dark Souls 1 after Dark Souls 3, I think a lot of people would be saying the same thing about Dark Souls 1. Even though I think that Dark Souls 1's combat is in some ways more satisfying to me than Dark

Souls 3. So it's one of those things like because they slowed down the game a lot, I think that people will just like instinctively view it as a negative. It wasn't much. And I had to try and speed run to the boss. You have 15 minutes. In the end, it was something like that. Yeah, because it was a bit delayed because I tried to press some settings and it logged me out and then we had to find some guidelines like it. So it was delayed. Jesus Christ.

Okay. Didn't have much time. But yeah, no, man, it's tough. Like they don't set you up with much. So, you know, very little life, barely any damage, slow as fuck attacks. Oh, yeah. And everything seems to hit pretty fucking. Okay, but with that in mind, Mathel, with that in mind, if you were, what would you say

the game by experience was like... This guy's, just fucking, dude, this guy's, you guys can't see him. He's so happy that he's on the camera. He's so fucking happy. He's just been looking at the camera the whole time. Obviously, adjusting for the fact that you know it was, like, you shitty, yeah, shitty character and stuff. Was it a game good?

Yeah. I mean, the freaking environment was insane. The character looks cool. The attacks were pretty cool. The animation's good. It sounds like the Alba 4. You're telling you describing DL4. It sounds like I'm saying DL4 about.

Yeah, I mean, that's... Nah, we all think that's, you know, the case, right? Where the animations and everything in D4 pre-folds is pretty good. There's no systems behind that. So we're having this. And then there's systems behind it. Never-ending customizable systems. So it's like, yeah.

what's wrong with that? That's good. Sure, that is good. Oh, wait, so you would actually... If they're going to slow down Pee 2 to that amount, though? It's not going to be slow down to that, I mean... Give me a fucking brook. Wait, we need to hold this actually.

I don't think that's... I don't think it's going to get slowed down in the same way. I think that, like, if you look at Act 1, do you remember playing Act 1 after they redid Act 1? And, like, they buffed everything? Yeah, do you all remember that shit? Yo, Ty Ty, yo, thank you very much to the raid, bro. I appreciate it.

much. Like, that shit was really slow. And it was a lot harder. And I'm going to be honest, I almost quit the game and act one one time. I was like, this is, this is true. This is too hard. Not the fuck, man. Why is the jokes? Oh, no. Right? I got through it, right? But God damn, this shit was not a joke. So, like, I feel like, I feel like, this is what you can expect. Dave, why do you think they're doing Peeley 1 and Peeley 2 separate? to tap the market. Like, it's to basically not make you right now playing POE.

Because right now you play... Really? Really? That's what it is? I do think that could potentially backfire by fatiging people. Like, it could just fatigue people because, like, they're so used to playing POE that they're just like, okay, I'm done. That's too much, right? Because POE is like a really, really involved game. But also, I think that the big reason is because they don't want to alienate,

their existing player base of POE1. That's the real reason I think. It's because POE 2 is so different in so many ways that they don't want to just like release this new game, like Overwatch 2, for example, and be like, yeah, the old game that you liked that you played for 10 years, it's dead now and you can't play it anymore.

I think that's... I'm starting to some extent for the leagues and shit. Do you know they what caused burnout? I've ever been jamming that shit like that hell? I mean, you play like... Yeah. You play... Hey, it might burn me out.

I don't know. But I think that's the strategy right now to go for it. To try and make sure that, you know. Yeah, I think it's just because they didn't want to alienate, like, their existing player base, you know? People that play for two to four weeks have some pee-wee to get back to sooner than another eight weeks from there. I have a theory, Mantle. I have a theory.

Yeah. Okay. The reason why there's Pee-E-1 and P-E-2, because P-E-1 is going to be the Zoom of P-EE. P-E-2 is going to be the fucking slow-down. That could be it as well. They could just... And it's never going to go crazy fast. They're going to keep it.

They're going to keep it like... It could be. It could be. I absolutely can see that happening. And what would you take me then, with P. If they did that? What's wrong with that? Well, I mean, are you kidding, you,

Matthew? You have literal builds that are like the bit rate destroying builds, which annihilate, like, entire screens. I'm saying, what's wrong with that? It's giving you choice, is what I'm saying. Because they're still going to keep working on PEO1 in the same matter. So if you love PEO1 the way it is, and they keep giving you more of it...

Yeah, but wouldn't they just, wouldn't P. Wouldn't Pee one be, I mean, considering that they made crucible, one guy, like, crucible league, one guy made it? Do you not think that Pee one will just be like three dudes? No, because they're not going to leave. Because they said they're going to release. Well, if it's good, then who cares about how many people make it? Like, that's the way I see it.

Yeah, who gives his shit? Like, it could be made by one guy or like, I mean, how many people made forspoken? Does that matter? No. Like, what, three before Pee, Pee, two leagues? So they just- Well, I'm assuming that now. that most of P.O.2's been, you know, done, shipped, ready to go. Yeah. All of it, but whatever. Yeah, right. It's not as much of the development team is going to have to be focused strictly on PEO2.

I'd assume they're going to just like split it basically damn near down the middle and have half the guys working PEO1, half of them working Pee 2. I think it'll probably be based off of how many people are playing it. Like realistically, like if they see PEO2 just completely takes off and is doing amazing, then they'll probably focus more on that. But I don't think they're going to just like stop support for the other game. Off and half. No sure. No way. No way. If it's still good and still worth playing and it's got numbers and metrics in, right? Why do you keep working and investing a lot into it? Because all you're doing is slow-upacks either way. I think most of you'll quit P-E-1.

My expectation is that, my expectation is this metal. If it's slowed down in P-O-E-2 and you think people... More people are going to quit P-O-E-1. I mean, you can look at like classic well, and you can look at retail well. and I think people will always go back and forth and I also don't think that like it has to be a I'm quitting this game I think there's going to be a lot of people who will play one for a while and then go back and then play the other one

yeah it's not like it has to be a lot of people playing pewee right now all the zoomeresque shit why would they quit that for that if they still want to keep playing the alternative well I think that a lot of new people are going to come into pewey too people just do something in the fucking shit. The hot shit. The people don't know. There's going to be probably raging brady of this stuff,

like with massive changes to the gameplay or whatever. But ultimately, most people don't get those hit PE2, right? And people won't care about people who aren't that much. It'd be kind of like, wow classic. It'd be like wow classic or something. No, in there a wow classic. I'd be like PUE classic, right? It'd be like some, you know, it'd be PUE classic.

I get that a lot. I mean, you guys saw like all the posts, like every single league that isn't received very well, people talk about, oh man, if you could just take me back. to like, I think the leagues that everybody has like a lot of nostalgia for is like ritual, um, delirium. I, I would like a delve, yeah, Legion. Yeah, I hear that all the time.

So I think that's already happening. I just don't see it like it's going to be quite like that. Like it's, from what they're saying, it sounds like, you know, basically more of the same of what we're getting with PewE one now, but I'd say it's going to be more because. But there's been more of the saying than why not just make it all Pewy too. This is the question. That's the last... Because that's usually since it said, to branch off into two different directions.

One for someone that wants a slower, whatever the fuck game. One for someone that wants a Zuma game. But ultimately, like I'm saying, I think it's because they just want to, you know, have a cycle where people have more peer-e to do so that they're not stopping it. You know? Keep them addicted, like good little fucking crack. Well, think about it. Well, that's what Wow does, and I think that's a good decision, right?

Because you keep people engaged with the game regularly. Like, you know, for example, with Y'clock. Wow, like if you play World Warcraft, you can play classic and retail at the same time because the patches don't come out at the same time. Making a game, right? And you want people to play it for as long as possible as much as possible. And currently people... Well, not necessarily.

You just want people to buy as much as possible. So maybe people... And that gives more cycles for... And I think also, like, one thing that's important with having a slower RPG or a slower game is that the mechanics have to be better. Like, having better mechanics, I think. will really carry the game a lot and like oh just like little like uh you know small like nuances to combat will make it a lot more important because like if you're just doing the exact same thing

just like ao-eing down knobs but it just takes longer that's not going to be fun yeah it needs more strategy to it exactly yeah but what i mean what if what if hypothetically people take a break i'm more likely to spend money i don't know i mean i don't know i don't know if the goal is necessarily too. I feel like that, I mean, again, the way I see it, maybe I'm cooked, the way I see it is that they just want a redundancy. If Pee-E-2 causes like an uproar and there's like the Zumas are having a riot and then they're like, we'll just play P-E-E-1. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think Quinn is right about this. I think that they're straight up doing it so they're able to, um, they're able to have like their core community of people and they won't basically, I bet a lot of this and a lot of

decision like even if they didn't make the decision because of this i'm sure that they're more certain of the decision because of this is because of overwatch too because overwatch did the exact opposite of this and the community hated it you haven't even tried it yeah i haven't tried it i want to play it yeah well i played the game for 40 minutes yesterday okay what do you think we 2 40 minutes i couldn't stream it obviously otherwise i fucking whatever um and you know watching that gameplay is pretty representative of my experience you your characters every single attack is just slow as fuck and you just

and it does very little damage it does very little damage and then it kind of feels like you're just playing like a shitty shitty character in Pewy 1 like a really like you know it's like you're stuck in act 1 forever like a two-handed

Moriori build with no attack speed it's like I'm talking it's like it's like ruthless except unironically you do more damage and have more uh you took it's like ruthless but even slower and harder than ruthless like I would say

ruthless is not even kidding ruthless is easier than whatever the fuck they're letting us play in Pew E2 now I was playing okay let's be clear here I was playing the game on a fucking keyboard I don't play the game with a keyboard play game with my game now I was also playing the game on a computer setup that I'm not used to with weird mouse sensitivity yeah yeah on top of that it was keybines that I have no idea what the fuck it's the game it's the game's fine yeah true super weak Key points. It didn't make no sense. Yeah, I'm a game-pad gamer. I play it. I play it. It's okay.

Fuck the game-pa. And then I was also playing on a fucking PC, and the game was going down to 40 f-PS. And the computer specs were good, so... But the guy said, apparently, there's some performance. The guy, the guy, the guy there, because the guy said, he said, yeah, they're working, they're working on a perimeter performance, because it's not supposed to go down that low. But the frame rate was low. Yeah. Now, if we just assume, the controls are bad, because I'm not used to it, the computer shit, because it's not optimized, and then they deliberately

tuned it hard, which they haven't said, because they haven't said, like, hey, we deliberately. I don't know why, yeah, they did say. Like, I guess at this point, yeah, they've come out and said that it was, it was harder than it was intended. Like, I would love a game that had, like, the amount of, what's the, like, uh, like, the deliberate combat of Dark Souls 1? The slow, deliberate, visceral combat of Dark Souls 1 in a lot of ways feels better to me than Dark Souls 3. They made the spooked up guys. This is going to be different when the game actually releases. They haven't said that, right?

Have you heard them said that once? Like, have you heard them said that once? I died a single time of the warrior one time. And then I killed the boss of the Huntress on the second attempt. I like how it ends with like, I guess maybe that's like his wife. Like, okay, okay, honey. It's time for, it's time to stop. I feel like by the time the game actually comes out and not comes out, but like comes into beta,

the experience is going to be completely different. And as long as fighting the bosses and stuff like that is entertaining and it's good gameplay, then that's what really matters. Like everything else is kind of like whatever. Like I think we need to sit there and we need to wait for the actual, for the beta to come out because they said it was overtuned. People weren't able to play more than like an hour. where like it's very hard to say.

And also I think more methodical in solar combat is good for POE. As I said, I think POE is way too fast. Like just over the years, and it's not even the developer's fault, really. It's just like over the years, there's been so many things added into the game. Every time they tried to slow down the game, the players freak out about it. So it's just like they're just going to let the players do what they want to do. POE1 is way too fucking crazy. It's too much, man.

So I think it's good that they're going to hopefully change it. They have a zero CD philosophy. I think they understand it to make it too slow. Yeah, I'm not sure yet. Such a strand take by Quinn, he's judging the game from a preview without any real skill build. Well, he's basing it off of what he's seen. I think everybody knows it's not the beta, and the game's not out yet. But, like, giving your feedback on how the game feels whenever you play it, I think, is really important.

That's not a bad thing. And also, like, you know, how many times has, like, somebody died in POE to something? and then you don't even know what killed them. Like, you have to go back and watch the stream or like the clip at like 0.25% speed to even find the frame of like the half of the animation that they didn't see. Yeah, it's really, really bad. And that's the kind of stuff they need to clean up for POE2

because my opinion is like, I feel like those experiences are so horrible. They're so, so bad. And it doesn't have to be like that. You know, most people love that, bro. You think people like that? about POE is getting killed by things that you can't see. I don't think that's why people like POE.

Yeah, I really don't think so, man. There's no such things being wounded in POE. You're either alive or dead. Here's my way of looking at it. Is that if I'm watching a POE clip compilation and combat lasts more than two seconds, I'm watching a death clip. Like, if you hit the mob and it's not instantly dead,

yeah, it's going to kill you. 100%. And you know it. Imagine doing the campaign that takes forever every season. Bullshit, it needs to be faster. it'll be boring as fuck. Well, saying that the campaign needs to go by quickly and saying that gameplay is fast, these are two different things.

The only thing I hate is there's too much mechanics from previous seasons. Yeah, it's hard for people to keep up. But yeah, I really hope this game is going to be good because Diablo, like, you know, we'll see with season two, but the malignant season was okay, but, ah, you know,

it's the same shit, right? It's going to be the same shit. So, we'll see what happens.