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So here we go.
There has been this girl, like there has been like a astronomical,
massive fucking amount of V-tuber drama.
I did not get a chance to see this at all.
I was gone.
Oh boy.
Buckle up.
Yeah, I heard this was a, this might be one of the biggest ones that's happened.
We're talking about sender?
Yes, we are talking about sender.
I apologize.
I was a day late on this, but we're going to get to it.
Fucking God, here we go again. Now, what is it this time? It's nothing gotcha related.
Surprisingly, this is a v-tuber related. Now, we're talking about cinder today. Now, if you don't already know,
Cinder is a pretty fucking big V-tuber, co-owner of Gamer Subs, which I'm still trying to get sponsored by,
but God fucking damn it, they don't want me. But she is a big content creator, V-tuber, obviously. She is a co-owner of Gamer-subs,
and she looks like this.
Pretty fucking hot.
Yep, I can see why people watch that, definitely.
I know.
Now, she's had a little drama recently,
and a little is a fucking understatement
because she is in, for the V-Tuber community,
she is cooked, okay?
She is cooked.
Now, she-
I do think that after all of this,
this might have actually just ended her career.
Like, she'd have to, like, rebrand
or do something totally,
different because I've never seen such a unified hate towards a V-tuber ever before in my life.
This is probably the biggest amount of hate that I've ever seen towards a V-Tuber before.
tweeted out this. Effective immediately. Redacted will no longer be managing or overseeing my
V-tuber activities. He no longer represents me as a creator, my brand, or my intentions.
I'm sorry, everyone. I will make a larger response when I'm able. Now, if you don't know who
redacted is, from my knowledge, from my knowledge, don't take this as guarantee, but from my knowledge
redacted is their boyfriend or so to say. What a surprise. There are a lot of these girls, and this is
extremely common, that lie about having a boyfriend in order to continue farming simps and getting
donations. It's a meme on the internet, and I think in a lot of cases it isn't true, but there's a
reason why it's a meme. It's because
in some cases it actually in fact is.
Hey,
something like that or girlfriend, I don't fucking know.
It's their love. What even happened?
Manilus, a great artist,
tweeted out, hello. I'm here to share something
that has affected me personally. Shondo called it
out months ago. Well, everybody called it out.
I mean, of course this is what happens.
Let me see if I can find the clip about that.
Give me a second.
Fuck.
sender.
I'm not seeing the clip.
I'm sorry, guys. I would play it, but
I might not be able to.
Maybe it's a tweet.
I thought it was her talking about it. Either way,
yeah, a lot of V-tubers do have
secret boyfriends. Of course they do.
I mean, it's common sense, right?
But I feel it is necessary.
Please do not send hate to anyone
on my behalf. This is all I want to
say with a Google Doc attached.
Now, this Google Doc is pretty fucking long.
Pretty fucking long, right? Pretty fucking long with some damning evidence. Now I'm personally not gonna read all of this because I have a great summary. A great summary. Techtone tweeted out after two hours four documents and two posts and a lot two hours reading this shit
of reading you are the major takeaways on the Cinder situation in each document posted
What keep what we can conclude nanos document redacted is Cinder's mouthpiece
Confirmed Cinder knew everything
enacted said. Red slash sin were attempting to monopolize an editor slash artist against their desires.
Guiltrip them manipulated them into doing their work and no one else's. What Cinder's doing isn't
fucked up to do to one's competition. However, doing it to their friend is a whole different story.
So she was trying to be friends with people. So let me get this straight. It was a girl who is
trying to be friends with other girls, but she was actually secretly trying to be friends with other girls, but she was actually secretly trying to
to backstab them the entire time.
Am I getting this right?
Huh.
I think that's the first time this has happened.
Redacted gaslighting nanolus using revisionist history.
Rain's document.
Sindor sexting another man while in a relationship.
Cinder trauma dumping to another person about how bad her relationship is to someone she is interested in.
That's bullshit to me.
NTR. Rain and Cinder are very scummy in this document.
Rain claims this wasn't meant to be a witch hunt
But it very clearly was done with the proper timing to have this document gained the traction day won and so it did
Is that wrong?
100% up to you to decide
VAM's post
VAM exposes red being Cinder's boyfriend
Not really a big deal tons of V-tubers height the fact that they have SOS to farm more parasocials to get gifted than superchats
I love that tectone just fucking says it
it's not even like a controversial statement it's just like a clarifying statement that everybody knows and acknowledges to be real
didn't amaranath do this many girls do this very many girls do this
the fact is that a lot of guys i'm just going to say it i'm going to say it a lot of people aren't
going to say it they don't want to hear it but i'm going to tell you the truth
if a guy cannot imagine himself in a relationship with you if you are a female streamer,
the probability of you being one of his streamers that he watches goes down massively.
That's the truth.
I know it sounds weird and that's because it is,
but that's the reason why if you look at the top 100 male streamers,
you've got a number of weird looking or ugly dudes.
if you look at the top 100 female streamers,
you don't see a single ugly girl.
That's the reason why every V-tuber is an extremely idealized,
attractive version of a girl.
That's why they all have big tits and they bounce around and they're cute.
That's it.
That's the reason.
And the fact is that guys watch these girls because they want to imagine having a parisocial relationship
with them. And by the way, how many of you, and I know it sounds crazy, how many have you,
how many of you have ever seen one of these girls that announces that she gets a boyfriend,
and then like her amount of gifted subs goes down massively, donations goes down massively,
maybe even viewership goes down massively. Yeah, right? We've always seen this happen. It's because
guys give these girls money, and there is the hidden hope that one day they will get noticed.
And I know it sounds pathetic, and that's because it is pathetic, but it's also true.
As a streamers do this, not really a big deal for wanting to keep your private life private.
However, if Sinder froze away her boyfriend to try to alleviate some negative PR,
that is going to be a big yikes from me, dog.
Biles document.
Dispels claims that Sinder and Red were making calling Bout an editor and an MV maker thief.
Confirms how hurt she is by having her friend attempt to be overly competitive and ruin her image
and her models and impacting her career negatively.
Says that Sinder could make it to the top,
but when she gets there, she will be alone.
Bough dispels claims that she locked up sacred, her editor.
Bows completely absolves herself from the wrong viewing.
Great doc.
Spite's document.
Spite insinuates that Sinder is and was copying her,
not the other way around.
Screenshots of these claims are pretty damning.
Spite showing off her outfit in July 22,
Cinder then having a near identical outfit
on September 14th, 2022.
Yeah, this is obviously like just ruthless businesswoman situations.
Like, I think that's really what's going on here.
I don't understand half of this.
Takram or TV's document.
Supporting some of Baal's claims to be true.
Major takeaways.
To be honest, things look absolutely horrible for Cinder.
Yet I will be waiting for her response just to do my due diligence.
It has been alleged with a lot of damning screenshots as well as other
corroborating the narrative.
She did make a response.
Somehow it made things even worse.
That is being pushed.
It's pretty bad.
Alleged as overly competitive with her friends in the V Teaming Space,
willing to undermine and backstab her friends to get ahead,
gaslight and manipulate editors slash workers to get her way,
cheating on significant other,
a model slash rigor thief.
People speculate she is going to throw away her current boyfriend,
Red, aka Reddacta, to alleviate some negative PR coming her way.
Jesus.
But for now, I believe that is about it.
I will wait and see Cinder's response and keep you all updated on any news or changes in perspective once we have everyone's side.
Oh my fucking God.
And to be honest, I feel horrible for Condale, Bows, shy lily, spite, and every other V-Tuber affected in this scenario.
To be honest.
Her response is sorry you felt this way and sorry my boyfriend did this to you in my name, basically washing her hands.
I don't really know what Cinder could possibly present to absolve her.
Yet I will still do my due diligence.
I am 31 years old.
and I just researched v-tuber drama for two hours in front of 9,000 people on Twitch.
Wow.
I swear to God, I have not one but two jobs, but my God, this reeked of unemployment.
Thanks for reading.
Holy fuck, Jesus Christ.
Holy allegations.
Now, wow.
Obviously, me personally, this shit is crazy.
The fact that she's like backstabbing her friends kinda is crazy.
I feel bad for Bout Continental and all of them.
I mean, even here, like, Cotton Till tweeted out, this made my stomach drop to read.
It makes me very sad to have things come out like this.
sending Nano and Bail so much love.
With a screenshot from one of the docs,
if you want to read those, go eat and watch.
It's just weird, bro.
Like, this whole situation is really fucking weird.
Like, the V-Tuber space, I think,
has just gotten weird more and more and more.
There's a Shondo tweet.
Techtown is the second tweet talking about the apology.
Yeah, I saw that.
Stone's video or like anyone else's video,
because I bet y'all there's going to be multiple videos on this.
But it says here, what about, we can pay Kormori for you,
and you don't have to discount it from the next payment.
And we'll continue giving you lots of model work I think for this year right now
But you don't work with bow cotton or blank at all again
Models or art it's just crazy
So trying to like pay them not to work with competition obviously
This is crazy y'all saw the allegations cheating on significant
A model rigor thief gaslight and manipulate editors workers to get her way like this shit is fucking crazy
Now what do the people think obviously con till upset bow not too fucking happy
spite obviously rightfully pissed
because I mean
based on her Google Doc
I mean look at this shit bro
look at this shit
sounds great I'm so happy with it July 20th
2022 what do you think of my new outfit
September 14th 2020
Is it really that much different?
Just copying and she's been
I feel like it's I feel like these are kind of different
honestly I do
like it's obviously like one clearly
is like inspired from the other
but it's not like a one for one copy
I'm not the fucking copycat.
Like, this shit is bad, bro.
This shit is fucking bad.
I want to know, what do the people think?
What are people saying?
I remember playing phasmophobia with you and hearing Red Chataway next to you before you first debuted like four years ago.
You told me he was your boyfriend.
Then before we met for Twitchcon, you switched up and said, just so you know, my manager is coming with me on this trip.
As if I didn't know who he was.
Is he?
So, bro.
She's just leaking the entire thing.
Even ick here to read this tweet
Knowing he is your significant other
And that you're probably going to try and avoid
Take a responsibility for hurting people
Who trusted you as friends by nuking the red
Side of this duo
Jesus Christ
Someone who represents you and your intention is.
Is that the Shondo tweet? What does it say?
Translation. A lot of
Indie Veevetya Oshis have boyfriends.
Their boyfriends are reading your love
confessions. Indies do not
have managers unless they are actually
corporate and thus are not
indie at all. Probably true.
Someone who represents you and your intention should never be someone like that.
There's no amount of I'm sorry or bad judgment you can have in this situation.
You need to actually own up and be ready to not be forgiven by lots of people.
Jesus Christ.
You did bad things.
End of story.
Nah, firing your manager is not fixing this.
I do hope your longer reaction won't be a summary of...
She was trying to do this herself.
It wasn't just her manager.
Let's be honest.
I had no idea about this.
Like, again, like any form, in my opinion,
Whenever a person begins or engages in any form of manipulation or disingenuous behavior,
I assume that they will only do more of it.
But we'll stay away from judgment until Dodd is out.
Pushing your blame onto your manager isn't really to move.
He no longer represents me as a creator.
Bro, the problem is you representing yourself, not just your manager.
And then obviously you got an analyst and people saying,
we'll always be there to support you no matter what.
I can't stand when people pressure others to avoid certain individuals.
That's so fucking weird.
It took a lot of courage to speak out about this, Nano.
I hope you're doing okay.
All right.
I'm so sorry you have to put a...
I'm so sorry you out to be put in this position.
You're one of my favorite...
Elementary school, boyfriend, girlfriend drama.
The drama is kind of silly,
but it's still funny for me to see it continue happening.
And the other thing that I think is really funny to me
is the fact that the meme or like the stereotype of like V-Ten
Fetubers pretending not to have boyfriends or like female streamers in general.
It actually happened and it came true again.
Even before I knew what the internet was.
Why can't streamers be honest and pure like you?
I'm honestly just baffled by all of this.
I'm so sorry that this was even an energy you had to perceive in your lifetime.
Like obviously.
Yeah.
What the actual fuck.
I'm sorry.
Love you Nana.
Sorry you have to deal with this shit.
Obviously a bunch of fucking people are not too happy with Sinda right now.
And she did say, she did say, in her.
tweet. I'm sorry everyone, I will make a larger
response when I'm able. So she is going to respond.
I'm going to be honest.
Not looking good. Not looking good.
I don't think she's going to be able to save herself.
Gonna be honest.
Gonna be very fucking honest.
I think she's going to have to do something different.
Or she might try to rebrand or something
else. That's kind of what I'm
expecting to see happen.
What do you all think?
Yeah, I'm going to be honest.
She responded and it sucked. Yeah, exactly.
To our response on coming? Yeah, I know.
I'll link you guys a video.
But I remember seeing this myself, and I didn't really know what to think about it.
But, yeah, show pivot to NSFW.
I mean, like, honestly, a lot of these V-tubers were already on the edge of that already.
So it's not that big of a fucking difference.
But, yeah, I mean, I think in a lot of cases, legal mindset saying for the active manager is making it legally worse, not better.
You're liable for your manager's actions, torturous interference level.
Look, I don't think anybody's going to be getting sued over this.
I mean, realistically, I'm not expecting.
that to happen. But I do think that it does, like this, and this is the tectone video,
how a single tweet might have destroyed this V-tubers career. It is a one-hour and 40-minute video,
and the title is, she's done. Oh, man. That's a whole lot, isn't it? God fucking damn.
Okay, time to make it four hours? No, no, no.
