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Episode Date: March 23, 2025

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The escalation has been so bad, by the way, you need to cover it again. It's been getting much worse. They're about to put the guy in jail. They don't even let the lawyers in blocking TV channels from showing it. What? Demonstrations are planned at universities across Istanbul today amid calls for wider process over the arrest and detention of President Erdogan's top rival, the Istanbul mayor, Ekram Imamolu.

On Wednesday, students... So you just put them in jail? Oh, is somebody running against me? Put him in jail. The chest has clashed with riot police in the county. capital Ankara. Holy shit. Deployed tear gas and water cannon on... By the way, I think this is totally justified.

If you are usurping the democratic process, the only alternative is violent protest. I hate violent protest. I think it's horrible and destructive. But the only thing that's worse than that is taking away people's democratic representation. On the capital protesters also gathered in cities across Turkey, despite a government ban which extends online.

No, I never have. It was the same argumentation that I used for why I thought that, for example, like the Boston Tea Party was okay, versus like people attacking the Capitol building on January 6th or something like that. No, I've been completely consistent about this the entire time. If the government is invalid, then so is the law. Exactly. Despite a government ban, which extends online,

police say they detain 37 suspects. allegedly making what they called provocative social media posts. Provocative social media, but what a bunch of fucking bullshit, man. Oh my god. I think we really forget how lucky we are here in America. Man, some of these other countries in the world are really fucked up. Mr. Emmer Molo was set to be named as the presidential candidate for the opposition Republican People's Party known as the CHP. The government say they are cracking down on corruption. and accused the opposition of links to a terrorist group.

The opposition say this is about Erdogan consolidating his power. Our reporter Emily Withers brought us up to date. So I think what's interesting is that Imammolu may have spent the night in custody, but it's the opposition party that still controls the municipality here in Istanbul. So when people woke up this morning and commuted into work using the metro, they heard the voice of Imammolu blaring out on special. There are already calls today for more large demonstrations to happen at universities across the city. There's calls for more wider protests.

Well, I still go to Turkey now? No, in my opinion, I don't think this is going to stand. I think they're going to have to acquiesce. They're going to cave to this. You can't be putting your political opponents in jail. You can't do that. Like, I'm sorry, like, Turkey is not like a third world country. Turkey is a developed, educated country.

I don't think this is going to fly. Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think it's going to happen. Particularly here in Istanbul and in Ankara. As you said... It's third world? I didn't say it's first world either. I said it's not third world. This country is not a complete shithole. I've seen videos of Turkey.

A place is not awful. There were large crowds, tens of thousands out on the streets in Istanbul and Ankara last night who clashed with police. but the numbers still aren't quite large enough to really put major political pressure on the president, President Erdogan. We may see the protests grow as we move into the weekend, but Turks know that it's very risky to protest here in Turkey. There are many detentions that happen here, and they may not want to take that risk. We're also seeing arrests related to online media. So the Turkish authorities have said that they detained 37 suspects already.

Something in chat, something somewhere happened years ago with bigger protests until Erdogan took out the tanks on the street and caved the protests, countless arrests and everything ended his way. Fuck, man. Is that true? Well, fuck. Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't even know that.

For allegedly making what they called provocative social media posts over the detention of Imam Ali. We also expect that there will be more arrests of opposition figures in the coming days. Meanwhile, when it comes to immigration. Mamolu. We know that the authorities here have now seized his construction company that he co-owns. And it may be that in the coming days, he is replaced with a government appointee pending his investigation. So this is the guy also who, in order in Turkey for you to run for office, you need to have a degree of a higher education. And didn't they also revoke this guy's degree, uh, degree? I mean, like that's, that's, that's,

is that it? Yeah, same guy. Okay, all right, good. That's kind of weird, though. You're wrong, know what might happen. Germany probably wanted to change the U.S. laws during World War II if they won the war. I mean, I don't know, like, I mean, we could talk about this on both sides, right? Where it's like, I could look at Russia, right? We're like Russia, like, you've had, like, basically they've had a culture of, I would say oppressive government for a very long time, right? And I think that China is to an extent the same thing. But like a shift in culture to oppressive government isn't quite as common. And the most recent example of that change actually failing would be South Korea. Right? When the South Korean Prime Minister tried to institute Marshall Law and then he was totally fucking out. But then you can

also use the argument of Iran in 1979. So those are like I just, I don't know. Since the beginning of yeah. Yeah. So it's like it could be both 19, Tiananmen Square in Protest. Yeah. Tell us a bit more about Ekram-Imolulu and why the concern around him from President Erdogan. Ekram-imamolulu is incredibly popular. He's very charismatic. He appeals to people across the political divide. And on Sunday, there was supposed to be a major opposition voting ground where they were going to name Ekram-imimimolu as their presidential candidate in future elections. The opposition say that that's still going ahead, despite what happens to Ekram Imamoli. And, you know, this is part of a months-long crackdown that we've seen here in Turkey, where many opposition mayors, business leaders, and journalists have been rounded up in a nationwide crackdown.

And, you know, MMO wouldn't be the... Maybe my understanding was wrong, because I really thought Turkey was much more... I don't like using a word because there's a lot of baggage with it, but much more progressive. I've always thought of Turkey as like one of the much more progressive countries. Muslim countries? Yeah, yeah, exactly. First political leader to be put in jail. Just earlier this month, the leader of a Turkish opposition party was arrested and detained. He's currently in jail right now pending a trial on charges of insulting President

Erdogan and inciting hatred, he too has called the charges political. And this is all part of Erdogan trying to shore up power potentially ahead of early elections. I also think, like, I don't want to make this an argument with Trump. But like, can you guys see the difference between like some of these guys, like in these other countries that are getting put in jail for stuff and like the stuff that Trump did? Like these guys are getting put in jail for like total fucking bullshit. Right? Like it's and I think also even Trump getting put in jail or potentially being put in jail for things that were like kind of legitimate. Even that galvanized people completely against the Democrats.

I always I said this you like two years ago, three years ago when they started trying to like charge Trump with a bunch of stuff. I was like you either you either take him out with this right. You put him in jail. You totally destroy him or he's going to win. It is literally one or the other. This is crazy. Yeah, I didn't know about any of this. So this is the event right here.

Holy shit. And by the way, like, you can't criticize them for wearing masks and shit, right? Because, like, these people do get apparently politically prosecuted. I know a lot of people look at that as a bad thing. Because, like, here in the U.S., you have people that usually wear masks if they want to commit the crimes. They're shooting gas all the time? Oh, really? About outside Istanbul municipality for the fourth night in a row.

to protest the detention of America and Wogu oh my god wait what the fuck shit oh my god

look at all this this is corruption I mean it doesn't look like anybody's really fighting back at all it's not like they're throwing things at the cops it's tear gas wow

I just want you guys whenever you hear about some pampered uh you know you know 30 something something millennial that lives in a middle class area that's a gated community in the United States. Talk about fascism and government oppression. I just want you to think back on this. This is crazy.

And by the way, all of these protests, all the, oh, there's a, there's a bad boy. Okay. All of these protests are because the democratic process apparently just, you know, it just decided not to do it. you know like they just decided you know what let's just not do it oh my god and uh yeah remember this is yeah no this is as i don't know i mean like i i i'm not sure like what hassan thinks about this at all right i've i've no idea but i mean it's not like assan's like what do you guys you're trying to blame this on his son why you're trying to blame this on assan didn't do anything anything to do with them. Yes? Why would a song do this? I don't know, guys. Yeah, I don't think this

got anything to do with them, man. And yeah, wow, this is insane. Oh my God, let me see if I can look at a few more of these. And it's just incredible, two days. These are more of the protests here. and this is a live, this is a live broadcast. So it's literally happening right now. Holy fuck, man. Some countries use paint in the water. Ganon, so violent protesters are easier to identify if they try to run? Really.

This is a live view right now. Did it split screen this? Yeah. It's surreal to see major events like this go down in real time. Yeah, it's crazy. We didn't even really watch the serious shit that happened. kind of happened over a couple of nights you know and here's another one right here i'm going to listen to this without the audio isn't it crazy to see a country where everybody's wearing the same flag

can't relate wish i could this is terrifying yeah it is I guess polis is obviously police. Arresting your opposition and not allowing free elections is tantamount to violence in the first place. Some people just say enough is enough. No, like, I've said this before, like, what do you call it? Oh, fuck. What is the Martin Luther King quote? violence is the language of the unheard or something like that.

And it's something to that effect. And basically this is, this is this, this is that. Like these people like they're, they can't vote. Like they're putting the guy that they're going to vote for in jail. Like protests, not violence. The thing is that I disagree with violence inside of a democracy. But if you don't have a representative democracy, then how else can you

what else can you do the protesters are not violent by the way you're right they're not actually that's a really good point yeah like there's a couple of bad boys for sure

but most of these people are actually very well-mannered you're right no that's a really good point even these guys they're not attacking the police there's nobody at least right now that are throwing anything at the police

they're just standing there. Some are throwing stones? Yeah, and that's bad. But what I'm saying is that it's a very small minority and it's nothing like what you see here in America. I would even say that this is mostly peaceful. I would say it looks like it's 99% peaceful. And the times where it's not, it's whenever they're spraying the fucking water at the people that are protesting. And we've got shit like this, man. This is us. This is us right here. fucking embarrassing. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.

Intellectual distance. So you're trying to, you're trying to sneak this me? What are you unhappy about that I'm saying? Which bad faith argument are you going to make? What do you mean by that? Yeah, let me see.

Which one is it going to be? Let me make sure I move this over to the side. You're bending backwards, to give reasons why this protest is okay? Okay, here's the reasons why I think that it's okay. The democratic process has been apparently ignored. The jailing of political opponents, the seemingly escalation of,

oh, right, there's also government censorship too. So the government is censoring people's speech. And then number four, you also have the violence that is being, initiated seemingly by the government. So all of these things are totally different than what I would look at in America.

People aren't being put in jail for opinions in America unless the opinion is they're going to fucking kill somebody. People are like, the vote happens. It's just that they lose the vote. And also there's tons of people that are protesters that are massively violent. Look at

this. Look at that store. If this is America, there'd be 50 people in that store stealing everything out of the store. This is nothing like the United States. The guy was arrested over corruption and fraud. Really? Then why'd they take away his degree? And why did they do it to other people as well?

Where's the proof of that? Yeah, according to who? Like, I mean, you don't find this to be unsettling? The level of violence does matter. It's an illegal protest. So in your terms, it should not be allowed? Yeah, no. But like, of course, it shouldn't be allowed. but like what my point is is that it's also illegal to

just basically disregard the democratic process so if they're not following the laws then why should you that's a totally different thing nuance is hard yeah it's not even close like if they were protesting because they lost an election I'd be saying they're retarded the same as I do with people here

yeah this is not America yeah this is not happening in the United States there's no dissonance here there's no double speak here It's just common sense, different situations and reasonable viewpoint. Jesus Christ is moron. Yeah, this person comes in, argues every day. It's one of these serial disagreers.

It's fine. Anyway, let's see here. You sound in the opposition by planning freight charges on them. It's possible that's the case. Pan is that? Not yet. Not yet. The government's changing the rules.

I bet they are. Yeah, this is awful, man. I didn't know this at all. There shouldn't even be a topic. people to agree with the opinion is being targeted and not being able to protest on top of that? Yeah. Cortagon's ruling for 23 years, bro. You don't know anything?

I mean, like, he's been ruling for that long. And, you know, they did, apparently they rolled out tanks in 2016 to, like, stop protests as well. Like, I don't know. I don't know if that's really making your argument. He's lying about the illegal protest. Oh, maybe you're right. I just don't know that. Bro, that was a coup.

2016 was an attempt to coup, though. He didn't roll the tanks. Okay. Man. Wow. This video does a good job explaining. Yeah, no, if somebody wants to, uh, the fake coup, yeah.

I mean, again, like, I'm kind of like, I don't really know a lot about Turkey's politics, right? I mean, I'm gonna be totally honest. Like, I'm just looking at this as like basically a spectator. So like, I don't understand like how it got this bad. I don't really know their laws. I'm not sure about their culture. Like I've, you know, like I've looked at it just very, very, you know, casually. So if I get something wrong, I apologize.

I'm just basically just stream of consciousness talking about this. They have a lot of controversy with the government. We'll probably see more of it tomorrow with good info. Yeah, I'd like to see a video on this, like a good video that explains everything that happened. 2016, there was a coup, but it was civil compared to the other international affairs. The current leader is very similar to Putin. I don't know. Did they even hold a trial to remove the dude's degree?

Probably not, but I don't know. Now you understand why in France we're always protesting. As soon as we don't agree with our government, we manifest it. So it's important to manifest and let the government know that they're not powerful and they work for the country. I mean, my friend's literally on the ground getting gassed. It's messed up. Turks have a lot of national pride.

We won't stand for this. Oh, no. No, I know that. I remember the R slash place, bro. The turkey flag was always the biggest flag. It was that one and the France flag. Oh my fucking God. Like, yes.

Like, they are the most patriotic. It is crazy. Best references, Reddit? Yeah, I don't know. Bottom right, she looks peaceful. What are these paintball guns? Yeah, I think they're paintball guns. Holy shit, man.

It's crazy to see what's happening around the world like this, too. Like, I had no idea about this. Wow. Wow. Maybe this is a good video. I don't know if I want to watch this right now, but yeah, I might watch this tomorrow and just look at everything that's happening. Blackwell Putin? Yeah, apparently he was like into jiu-suito or judo or whatever, yeah. Would you agree? This is why we need Second Amendment to remain intact so we can fight back against our government trying to something like this. I think that the Second Amendment has like a lot of purposes. Like obviously it has a purpose of like, yeah, like as some sort of collateral against tyrannical government, sure.

But it's also for self-defense as well. And I think that it's also based off of the premise that I think that like really it should be about like why can't you have something rather than why can you have it. And so I think people should be able to have guns, right, unless there's a really good reason for them not to. someone who's living in Turkey, the reason to the protest is the unfair trial of one of the two strongest candidates against Erdogan. I'd also like to point out that the head of the opposition party has been detained for two months without any justification. That's insane. Don't listen to anyone who's against the first or second amendment or you end up like my country? Yeah, I mean, like, again, I just, I wish that more people in America, they saw how extreme this was to, like, compare, you know?

because it is it is fucking wild second amendment isn't going to stop a drone or a tank little bro no no i agree with you and i think that like by the way i think that convergence began in like i think it was like 1790 when the supreme court decided that a person can't own a military naval vessel with a cannon

so like i agree with you and it even goes back like that far so yeah sure yeah it's a it's deterrent Yeah, it's a deterrent. The 30-K civilians will do a lot. Yeah, maybe Little Bros. Chris, you're respectful. I think he was just, I don't think he meant it that way, but maybe he would, maybe he did.

I don't know they ruled the opposite. Maybe it was a different one I'm thinking of. It was like some variation of that where like basically they ruled that you, because like the argument was that the intention of the Second Amendment was for people in the U.S. to have equivalent arms as the military, but then very quickly as the military grew and advanced, you know, it became like, okay, well, we can't do that. Second Amendment's a uniquely an American thing. Well, there's a few countries that, that have, it doesn't Switzerland, everybody has a gun too? It's not super uncommon.

Yeah, I don't know what to think about this. It's kind of insane to see all this. Wow. Yeah, it's kind of insane to see all this happen. to be honest, this is BLM or left-winger's. Would you think that they had the right to protest? That was my point. No, I don't think that they had the right to protest

because the democratic process was not being postponed. Their candidates were not being put in jail, and they don't have systematic oppression that removes their right to free speech. So here in America, and also you can protest whatever you want. Like, I wasn't against BLM riots. I was against BLM protests.

I was against BLM protests. I was against BLM riots. Like if all these people are breaking into the buildings, I would say that's really bad. Like I just, I don't think you're doing anybody any favors by trying to like, you know, paint with this massive broad brush where like all protests are the same. They're not all the same. And the goals that they have are not the same. The countries that they exist in are not the same. Everything about it is different.

It's a total bad faith argument. And it's based off of a pretense that doesn't even exist. So which one's really different? Yeah, I don't know. Logic has its place, and so does violence. It's a balance? Well, violence has its place when logic is ignored. Right?

And democracy is ignored, which seems like what's happening. Try to watch news from the U.S. Europe and also China and Singapore, see if there's discrepancies between coverage. Oh, I'm sure that it's massively, like, biased. Your logic in the U.S. is being ignored? Yeah, I know. You've been pretty consistent on saying protests where illegal activities aren't done or totally fine. I don't know why people try it twisted on you. The reason why it's because they want to be

violent and protest and they think that if they violently protest that they can force people into doing what they want, that's the reason why you have so much of that happen. That's the reason why you have so many people that are like okay with it is because they think that if we're okay with this and we let this

violent protest happen, then maybe we can bully people into doing what we want.