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Episode Date: September 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 J.D. Vince, thanks so much for joining Fox and Friends this morning. Good morning. Great to be with you. So the last time we had a one-on-one was in your house. You weren't Vice President yet. You're auditioning. You were the only candidate that said if you didn't get selected, you would be disappointed. Well, you got accepted. So congratulations, Mr. Vice President. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Let's talk about some of the issues that matter to the American people. Sure. The President's a new tariff policy. And when I think about what he got elected on is bring the cost down for people. Exactly. Like, yeah, everybody, like anybody that voted, if you voted for Trump and you're mad about these tariffs, like, uh-uh, bro. Like, you cannot say that. So, uh, bring manufacturing back to the country.
Starting point is 00:00:41 That's right. These are going to kind of hit each other, right? Explain to us how you get manufacturing here, but also get the cost down for the American people. Well, if you go back a little bit, Lawrence, remember the, during the first Trump administration, everybody said that Trump's tariffs were going to be inflated. back then, what actually happened? We had 1.5% inflation. We had the fastest growing economy in a generation and we had the beginning of a manufacturing renaissance in the United States of America. Then, of course, we had four terrible years of the Biden administration. But I think it's useful for all of us to step back and ask us, ask ourselves, what has the globalist
Starting point is 00:01:17 economy gotten the United States of America? And the answer is... This is exactly, yeah. Is that you ask this question to an average person, go to Walmart or Target and ask this question, the answer is nothing. All of this perceived value is primarily consolidated around the ruling communication, media, and 1% class. Fundamentally, it's based on two principles, incurring a huge amount of debt to buy things that other countries make for us. And to make it a little bit more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture. That is not a recipe for economic prosperity. It's not a recipe for low prices, and it's not a recipe for...
Starting point is 00:02:04 Exactly. Yeah, and it's not beneficial for an average person here in the U.S. if they can't get a job. And so, and you see it here, right? I mean, this is another example that you can take a look at, is that... So this is an example of kind of what I'm talking about, especially with stocks. is that from dozen 19 to year before COVID to 2021, real average incomes per family have grown by 13%.
Starting point is 00:02:37 This is a very large growth. This very large growth hides substantial inequality. And this is the problem that a lot of people that are in media don't understand, is that they don't understand why when you're showing a graph that says the economy is getting better to an average person, they think the graph is bullshit. And the reason why is this, this very large growth hides the substantial inequality. The bottom 99% of real incomes grew by only 4.1% from 2019 to 2021. That's two years, I guess three in a way.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But while the top 1% grew by 46%, the top 1% of families captured 75% of total real growth per family from 2019 to 2021. The top 1% income share reached an all-time high of 27%. I think that people don't understand what these numbers are. You want to talk about Chinese peasants. What about the American peasants? The rich got richer. They got richer in an astronomical level that is not even easy to comprehend. Like, let's see, Jeff, Bezos, net worth.
Starting point is 00:03:57 over time. Do we have a graph here? Wow, look at that. Wow, wow, wow. Oh, wow. Look at these numbers. Those are really good numbers. So yeah, in just two years, exactly. And so this is the, now show the evolution of taxes for the extremely wealthy. Right. And so tax rates, I think I know this, but I don't, I can't fully say that I understand it. my understanding is that tax rates for very wealthy people, like, you know, go back like 70, 80, 100 years ago, we're actually higher than they are now. But I'm not sure if I'm educated enough.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I don't want to stand on that, but that's what I've heard. And so billionaires don't pay taxes. In a lot of cases, they don't. Just the 50s? Yeah, I think that's true. I think it's true, too. Can you show the productivity wage gap? Yes. This is the sick one.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You guys ready? Disconnect between productivity and a typical workers compensation. And keep in mind, this is stopping at 2017. This is why people want to burn down the system. This is the reason. And as somebody, I am a top 1% earner. I pay over a million dollars in taxes every single year.
Starting point is 00:05:33 In fact, I'm due for that pretty soon. And I totally understand it. And I will be massively negatively impacted by this. I will probably lose collectively in over the, the course of this this happening, I will probably lose millions of dollars. That's what will happen. It's just the way it is. But I can totally understand it.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You got to understand it. You need deductions. I deducted a six-figure amount of money, and I still had to pay that much. So, yeah, it's a lot. You probably lost millions a day? Not quite. I don't have that much money, okay? But, you know, maybe at some point,
Starting point is 00:06:28 has been on a millionaire vote for? Well, all I'm saying is, like, my point is that a lot of these people, as I said, these are the people messaging, oh, Luigi, you know, ha-ha, let's meme about Luigi. Well, now they're losing money, and so now it's serious. Yeah, you were fine with somebody else's dad getting shot in the back of the head, but whenever you lose 3% on your portfolio, suddenly now the world has to change and won't somebody think of the companies. Anyway, I did, I'm going on a bit of a tangent.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Do you guys see after you look at these graphs and this data the reason why Americans want to burn down the system? Do you see as clear as fucking day? It's so obvious. Yes, ponder the graph. Look at the graphs. Wall Street is smart. The news was coming. Some large head fund probably put out options.
Starting point is 00:07:23 in a market to crash and probably still made tons of money. Yeah, I'd do the same thing if I were though. Jobs in the United States of America. For 40 years, we have gone down that pathway. We've seen closing factories. We've seen rising inflation. J.D. Vance mentions 40 years. 1975. Well, pretty accurate, huh? Imagine that. It's exactly 50. Yeah, pretty close. We've seen the cost of housing so high that most Americans can't afford to buy a home right now. President Trump is taking this economy in a different direction. That's another thing. But the graph, I can't afford a house.
Starting point is 00:08:11 They don't care about a graph. They care about a house. It's, again, Mazel's hierarchy of needs. How can you expect somebody to understand abstract economics when they can't understand where they're living? And on that, he promised it, and now he's delivering. And yes, this is a big change. I'm not going to shy away from it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 But we needed a big change, Lawrence. We cannot keep going down the Joe Biden. and globalist pathway where we have. Yep, exactly. And it will hurt, by the way, and it will fuck up the economy in the short term. I think it will. And you know what's crazy is that it might even fuck up the economy in the long term and cause a great depression. But if I had to guess, I think most of the people that voted for Trump are willing to take that risk. And I think that the gains in the upper 1% that have happened year after a year after. after a year have been relying on people's afraid of people's fear of that risk and the moment
Starting point is 00:09:14 that people are afraid are not afraid of that anymore that's when this shit happens not afraid anymore yeah exactly and and why are people not afraid anymore the reason why they're not afraid anymore is because society has taken away a person's right to dignity a person no longer has the right to dignity. They can't afford a nice house. They can't afford a nice car. They can't take care of themselves. They can't afford to live in a way that they feel like is authentic to themselves.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And that's it. Second Civil War is coming? It's not a civil war. It's just that this is just economics, right? There will be an uprising. Well, this is the uprising. Like, they basically, they, people voted for Trump. to be the executioner and he is executing.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Like it or not. Two trillion dollars of peacetime debt and deficits. We have manufacturing disappearing. That is not working for Americans. We've got to take this country in a different direction. Mr. Vice President, there does seem to be a disconnect. You see Wall Street in the media and the markets and they're freaking out right now. But then I look at those-
Starting point is 00:10:28 They have a vested interest in it. That's the reason why. That's why they're freaking out. It's because they have a vested interest in it. They care about money. Of course, the people that are losing money are going to be upset. Duh. Workers that were in the Rose Garden yesterday and they're celebrating.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I think about all the diners that I've done across the country and all these businesses saying, we've lost manufacturing here. And they're celebrating the move. What is the disconnect between the market and the people, those workers that are cheering this on right now? Well, I think on one hand, frankly, a lot of people have gotten rich from American jobs moving overseas. But American workers, I'm going to be honest. If J.D. Vance runs in 2028, I'm going to vote for him. I am. I'm going to vote for him. I, like, I didn't vote for Trump. I'll vote for Vance.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Mainly because he has a beard and I feel like we really need to bring those back. But also some of his policies I agree with too. ... have not gotten rich and frankly American companies have not gotten wealthy from the increasing growth of foreign competitors manufacturing overseas. As the president says, Lawrence, these foreign companies, they charge us ridiculous tariffs. in a lot of non-tariff practices like currency manipulation. That has been awful for Main Street in the United States of America. It's meant those diners, their customers don't have jobs anymore. It meant those great steel mills, those great auto plants have closed down and their workers have been laid off. What I saw yesterday in the Rose Garden was incredible enthusiasm because a lot of
Starting point is 00:12:01 those workers, they've been working hard for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, young and old were in the Rose Garden yesterday. They've never had a president who stood up for their jobs and stood up for American prosperity. They finally see something has shifted. There were Democrats out there, Republicans. They were union and non-union. Yeah, this is the thing is that those working class people are only represented by probably a single-digit number of politicians. Bernie Sanders was one of them. And I think he is still one of them as well. But it's a very, very, very minor amount. union workers alike. They know this is a big change, but we need a big change in this country because what we've done, what we did under the Biden administration, it just wasn't working.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So, Mr. Vice President, I know a lot of MAGA folks, a lot of Americans that are cheering the president on, especially when he takes it to other countries. They feel like we've been screwed for a long time. But also know people that come from our back. Yeah, because again, and you see, this is basically tax the rich too, because they have most of the money in the stock market. Like, rich people will be the most disproportionately negatively affected by this financially. Now, there's a chance that that negative effect that rich people feel will have like a trickle-down effect that will negatively affect the average people, but that remains to be seen. Girl, they're living paycheck to paycheck. Of course. And they want to do the patriotic duty of taking
Starting point is 00:13:28 it to these other countries, but it's going to hit them a little bit. They feel what can you tell the American people that they just can't afford an extra $3 here and there about the government making up the difference from that. Will costs go up at some point? Will this just be temporary? Are we talking three months or six months? Well, we certainly hear, and I appreciate, you know how I grew up. I know. I grew up in a family that often did live paycheck to paycheck, and we know a lot of Americans are worried. So we are fighting very hard to bring prices down. We're going to have the biggest deregulation in the history of this country. We're doing a lot of things and already have done a lot of things to lower the cost of energy. You heard the president
Starting point is 00:14:05 mentioned this yesterday. Eggs when we came in were at a 10-year high and all of a sudden they've dropped 60% just in the two months of the Trump administration. What I'd ask folks to appreciate here is that we are not going to fix things overnight. Joe Biden left us, this is not an exaggeration, Lawrence, with the largest piece. The main concern that I have, honestly, is that unless they elect somebody to carry on this policy after Trump, like, all All memes aside, I don't think Trump is going to run for a third term, although it would be really funny if he did. It would be great content for me. I don't think he will, and I honestly don't think he should.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But if they don't have somebody to follow this up, I think it could be bad. Because this is a 10-year and like a 20-and-30-year plan. And like you really can't speed run this plan in four years. I think that like logistically, that's one of their biggest weaknesses right now. It's time debt and deficit in the history of the United States of America with sky high interest rates. You don't fix that stuff overnight. We know people are struggling. We're fighting as quickly as we can to fix what was left to us.
Starting point is 00:15:17 But it's not going to happen immediately. But we really do believe that if we pursue the right. This is really stretching it now. Is it a 20-year plan now? Yeah, I think it is. I think it's about a 20-year plan as. So, and we're seeing this also, like, here's another good example. This is something I just noticed recently.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So Austin is now doing autonomous vehicle rides. I might sound crazy, but just listen, in 30 to 50 years it will be illegal to drive your car on a public road. I don't think people realize the shift that we're going into. It might be less than that. Deregulation, we pursue those energy, cost-reducing policies. Yes, people are going to see it in their pocketbook. They're also going to benefit from the fact that foreign countries
Starting point is 00:16:09 can't take advantage of us anymore, that means their jobs are going to be more secure. I don't think you can talk about this, the tariffs, and not talk about the tax cuts as well that we're expecting. Is this to offset some of the cuts that we plan on and expect? Will this be a permanent measure? Or are we thinking when it comes to the scoring of this bill, we're going to be able to get cuts as a result of this? I wouldn't think of tax cuts as a way to offset the tariffs. Here's the way that I think about it is. Again, for 40 years, we've had an economy that rewards people who ship American jobs overseas and raises tax.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Again, this is the graph. This is just the graph. This is the graph. And this is what the numbers is. These is the numbers. This is on American workers. And we're flipping that on its head. We're going to cut taxes for American workers and for American companies that build here.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We're going to make it harder to ship American jobs overseas. overseas. Yeah, it's really important that we get manufacturing in the U.S. as soon as possible. That way we can have as much control over it whenever things shift to being automated. And you're going to see more automation and technology that way. We have to have we have to do this like as soon as possible. And you see like, I mean, you see how much money China is investing into AI. That's really smart. We should be doing the same thing. It's hard to understand. It's hard to understand because it's hard to understand because it's It's scary for somebody to wake up and look at their portfolio and see that they lost a bunch of money. And there's a chance that all of these tariffs and everything about this can totally backfire and we could go into a great depression and things could totally fucking be awful.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Like, yeah, there's not like a guarantee that this is going to go well. Yeah, there's no guarantee that this goes well. Total shift in the way that we've done economic policy in the United States of America, but it was necessary. So yeah, we're going to cut your taxes. You're going to have more money in your pocket, and that's, of course, going to help you deal with the cost of inflation. The greatest depression. But that's not about offsetting the tariffs. They work together.
Starting point is 00:18:27 We want to penalize people for shipping our jobs overseas. We want to reward hardworking Americans. And I think this is something that people want to do. They want to see the oligarchs who are, you know, shutting down and shipping factories and jobs overseas. They want to see the government, fuck them. Just straight up. That's what it is. They want to see it, and they will.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's why they voted for Trump. And he's fucking them. Part of the same policy. I want to get to some other news because there were some reports that came out that Elon Musk is leaving. Now, of course, the president had already said he was only going to be here for a temporary basis. Yeah. Tell us about that. Doge will continue after Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Will he still be an advisor to you and the president? I know y'all have a great relationship. Tell us about it. Well, first of all, that report I saw was total fake. Elon came in and we said, we need you to make government more efficient. We need you to shrink the incredible vast bureaucracy that thwarts the will of the American people, but also costs way too much money. And we said that's going to take about six months.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And that's what Elon signed up for. But of course he's going to continue to be an advisor. And by the way, the work of Doge is not even close to done. The work of Elon is not even close to done. You look at all of the fraudulent grants that they've found. You look at people who are 150 years old, who are fraudulent. Rodgently collecting Social Security payments. You see our Social Security system, 40% of the people who are calling in are actually committing fraud. That means the 60% who need their Social Security checks
Starting point is 00:20:03 are waiting in line. Doge has got a lot of work to do. And yeah, that- I think it does. I mean, absolutely, it's going to take forever. Do you think the working class benefits from the rich losing money on a stock market besides getting vengeance, the rich drive a lot of consumption that creates jobs. If the rich drive all of this consumption and all of this economic progress that creates jobs, then why is it that people feel like they can't afford anything now and they could 20 years ago? Why do people feel like their purchasing power and their ability to have financial stability is gone down? It's because that's not happening. Why would you take this to face value? The administration is not known for integrity or intellectual honesty? I mean, do I really need to
Starting point is 00:20:49 get a source for the idea that the federal government is probably corrupt and full of people that are stupid. This has been a known entity for 50 years. I don't need a source for this. Everybody knows it. It's obvious. I worked at the federal government. I saw it myself. Work's going to continue after Elon leaves, but fundamentally, Elon is going to remain a friend and an advisor of both me and the president, and he's done a lot of good things. People don't realize how vast and uncontrolled the bureaucracy was. We've started to chip away at it, but there's a lot of work to do. It's not going to happen all in six months. It's going to take a long and committed effort. Tell us about the news when it comes to TikTok. It looks like the president is going to
Starting point is 00:21:29 announce maybe today, some proposal, maybe America owns 50% of TikTok, a private investor, will own the other part. Is that going to happen today? So I don't want to get ahead of any presidential announcements here. But what I said is we've been working very, hard, me and the president, the entire team, to really accomplish two things. First of all, you want to make sure that the TikTok app in the United States is not spying on people. It's good for national security. You also want to give people access to this incredible platform, which as we know, that's where a lot of young people get their news. That's where a lot of young people found out about the policies of the Trump administration. And we got accomplished both of those
Starting point is 00:22:07 things. I think that we're in a good place. We're going to keep on working at it, but I'll let the president make that announcement. If it doesn't come out before the deadline, because I know the president extended. It'll come out before the deadline. We got a couple days to continue working on it to finalize. Yeah, I mean, they'll probably come out. I mean, I don't think they're going to get rid of TikTok, right? Like, I mean, I really don't think so. Yeah, do you think Doge is firing only problematic lazy people? They fired even Republicans and yet Doge haven't had any real time to measure how useless they are? Um, no, but if you're making the argument that there are chances where mistakes can happen, I think that you're right. Like every single jail,
Starting point is 00:22:45 probably has people that are in that jail, that shouldn't be in the jail. Like, you know, they got falsely in prison for one reason or another. But just because somebody is, just because there are bad outcomes doesn't mean you shouldn't do anything. And of course, we're going to let the president announce whatever we ultimately decide. Let's talk about some of the law fear in this country because I think it's important. Of course. We're seeing judges block illegal immigrants that came into the country illegally. That was the first crime.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And then the second crime, they victimized American citizens. murder, rapists and all that. What's going to be done about this? We're seeing these one-off stories of, you know, this person was a great father and then they're hanging around with MS-13. So this is the reason why you don't have. So the reason why the average population doesn't give a shit about, you know, illegal immigrants being deported is, and even if like, you know, there are some people that are like negatively affected or like, you know, some due process isn't really being used. This is the messaging that I think that they should use in order to explain it.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Basically, the reason why they're taking an extreme stance is that the situation that was created by not like kind of securing the border and letting all these people come in, this created a problem that they can't solve with due process, basically. And so they're not using it. that's that's what's going on is that basically the problem was created and you can't uncreate this problem unless you do something that doesn't do due process problem by what metric by the metric of having 10 to 20 million illegal immigrants and and that's the reason why the messaging for oh but they're not listening to the judge well if the rule of law is something that should be applied all the
Starting point is 00:24:40 time, then why didn't they apply to rule the law, the rule of law, when these people came in? Why are they even here in the first place? Well, you've created this situation that now it's so bad, you have them trying to do something different. And like they are probably breaking the rules and not following the judge's orders, et cetera, but the situation was created by breaking the rules and not following orders either. Things like sanctuary cities, for example. So that's the reason, yeah, they broke the law by letting these people in. Exactly. And that's why you have the majority of people that still support the deportations and mass deportations. That's the reason why. Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, they do. That's absolutely. They do in this
Starting point is 00:25:30 case? Yep. In this case, it does. And again, I don't necessarily think that this is the best way of doing it. But if you can't understand what I'm explaining, I don't know what to tell you. Allowing a wrong to continue is still wrong. Yeah. Well, that's a crazy take. Do you guys think that I'm right
Starting point is 00:25:50 about my viewpoint on this? This is Topol-L brain rot? No, it's not. Is that you have ignored the rules, you have stopped listening to what the border and immigration policy is, you have created this extreme circumstance that is cataclysmic and problematic for a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:26:13 or at least the perception of it, is that it is cataclysmic and problematic. And now, in order to solve the problem, you expect people to follow every single rule that you conveniently ignored in order to create the problem. And you're confused why people don't want to hold them to that standard. Well, it's because you didn't hold yourself to that standard. It's the same reason why nobody cares about Trump being a convicted felon. Trump's a 34x convicted felon. How many, that's insane, right?
Starting point is 00:26:46 How do you do it? And I bet a few of them are probably legit. I think he probably did. I think he probably fucked over tons of people. Absolutely. Probably a piece of shit. But the thing is that when Hunter Biden isn't in jail, the average person is not going to give a fuck about what Trump did.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You can't watch Hunter Biden. playing Grand Theft Auto in real life, smoking crack, driving 150 miles an hour, and see, this guy isn't in jail, and then expect people to care about, like, some white-collar bullshit with Donald Trump. Which one's worse? Smoking crack and driving under the influence of crack or some weird, like, tax reporting. Which one do you think average people care about more? Yeah, the laptop?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, well, I'm just saying, like, that's it. and why Hunter isn't president? Yeah, but the person who is is the reason why he's not in jail. So it's the same thing. If Hunter Biden was a non-white person that came from a working class background, where would Hunter Biden be? Everybody knows the answer to this. He'd be in jail.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Everybody knows it. It's going to be done. The courts are blocking this right now. Again, my point is that this is the reason why. a lot of people don't give a shit about like Donald Trump ignoring these judges is because the problem was created by
Starting point is 00:28:14 ignoring the law and so solving the problem by ignoring the law is viewed as equivalent exchange. That's the reason why. The executive branch, what are you guys going to do about? Well, look, we're going to keep on appealing and we're going to keep on fighting back here. First of all, we have to remember
Starting point is 00:28:32 the most important thing to stop the bleeding. Somebody says it's not right to do that. it wasn't right to let them all in either. And so when people said it's not right to let these people in, and then you said too bad, but now you say it's not right to get these people out, and then somebody else says too bad, oh, that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You're very close-minded. Your take only matters. Do you want to know the truth? I don't blame any of the illegal immigrants. Do you know who I really want to send to El Salvador? The people who run the companies who employed them knowingly. And if it was up to me, that's what would happen. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:29:29 If you want to talk about fair, that's what I would do. So I'm explaining the way that people look at this. I don't necessarily agree with it in all circumstances. Influx of massive illegal immigration into the country. And in two months, the president has already done that. You have illegal border crossings down over 95. percent in pretty much every part of the American southern border. Then, yeah, we've got to get the violent criminals out of here.
Starting point is 00:29:53 We've got to get illegal immigrants who came in during the Biden administration out of our country. That's what we're working on now. You're right. The courts, some radical left judges have stepped in and said you're not allowed to deport MS-13 gang members. That's crazy. We think the Supreme Court's going to overrule it. And we're going to keep on fighting for the president's progn. They're going to do it even as the Supreme Court says that they can't do it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Like, I'm just going to tell you right now. Trump doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck. He's going to do it anyway. So like that's it. Yeah, they're screwed. Yeah, exactly. Kind of dangerous. Yeah. It was also kind of dangerous letting them in. Exactly. See, now you're starting to get it. It's a dictator time. I'm telling you, this is what's going to happen. And people will not care. to enforce the law. You just remember the number of people who came in here, the innocent American, you know, girls like Jocelyn Nungre who lost their lives, Democrats never wept for them.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Democrats never issued a congressional resolution of condemnation for their murder. Democrats didn't do anything to make it harder for violent thugs to come into our country and prey on innocent young women. What they're getting fired up about, what they're most angry about is not that Jocelyn Nungay was murdered, but that the person who murdered her is getting shipped back home where they belong, not in the United States of America. And I think that I think this is the correct emotional framing of this problem. And I think that it is, this is the winning framing.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Is that why are you focusing on an illegal game member being deported and not the person who is the victim of this crime? And this is the big thing that I think liberals have really kind of like lost the message war with. is that I think that liberals for a very long time, what their strongest and, like, biggest tool is is emotional manipulation and emotional blackmail. You know, oh, won't somebody think about these poor kids or think about this, like, you know, like praying on people's emotions one way or another. If you can subvert that and then shift it around to them, it breaks down their entire
Starting point is 00:32:14 argumentation. The truth you mean? Well, it depends on the perspective, right? does. It depends on a perspective. But what I'm saying is that they're basically like Republicans in a lot of cases have not been playing these emotional like identity politics rhetoric games. And now that they are, because like honestly Trump is a, Trump is an extremely good communicator. And he's been in, he's been in entertainment for a very long time. And so he knows how to manipulate and communicate with people better than almost anybody else does. And I think J.D. Vance does too.
Starting point is 00:32:49 and so Orange Man Bat, no, he does. Like, whether you think that, like, that's why he has these rallies and everybody loves them, people wearing his hat all the time. Like, and is it really, like, even if you think Trump is a dictator, yeah, well, people loved Stalin and they liked Lenin and they liked Saddam Hussein even. Like a lot of people did. The entire idea, they like Hitler. I mean, the whole idea is, like, if you are one of these, like, dictators and really
Starting point is 00:33:13 powerful people, almost every single one of them is extremely charismatic and is extremely easy to follow, right? Even like the guys from, like the terrorist organizations, like that Nasrallah, Hassan Nasrallah, he's very well spoken. He's very well spoken. He's a great communicator. And if you can't acknowledge that, you're denying reality. And that's, yeah, people are stupid. Yeah, they are. And so that's, I think, what's going on. Trump exposed the widespread corruption with Doge and ICE. Yet no government officials been held accountable. I agree with you. I think it's a huge problem. But my point is that they've lost this emotional messaging war because of this shift of communications. I think it shows a disgraceful set of priorities from congressional
Starting point is 00:34:01 Democrats. We're not going to let that stand in our way. We're going to keep on doing the American People's War. Mr. Vice President, can I get you to put your lawyer hat on for a second? Because they're pointing to one of these cases of a gentleman that they said should not have been deported from El Salvador. They said he was not connected to MS-13. What would you tell them, about that case because they're saying that this is a great opportunity because a lot of people have been saying this. This is a person that was a great member of society. You've looked at the court records. You've talked to the men and women on the ground. What can you tell us about that situation? Well, there have been a few cases out there where the Democrats and the media say,
Starting point is 00:34:39 oh, this person was just an innocent father of three and then you find out, for example, I think this is the case that you're talking about. Back in 2019, an immigration judge looked at all the evidence, looked at all the data and concluded that this allegedly innocent person that we sent to El Salvador was actually a member of an MS-13 gang. He had also committed some traffic violations. He had not shown up for some court dates. This is not exactly father of the year here. This is exactly. Traffic violations? Well, I want you to think about it like this. what happens when you send illegal immigrants to El Salvador for traffic violations? I'll tell you what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:35:26 The illegal immigrants here are going to stop violating the traffic regulations, and the less people are going to come over. You go to Singapore, you don't see a lot of people littering, do you? Yeah, send a message? Yeah, it sends a message, and it's brutal. It's brutal, and you could say that it's morally wrong even. But it works. The person that we don't think should be in our country. Here's the most important point, though, Lawrence, is whatever the argument is, whatever the
Starting point is 00:35:53 justification is, no one doubts. Not even the crazy left-wing media criticized the idea that we could deport this person. They just took issue with the reasoning for why we deported this person. This was unquestionably an illegal alien. This was unquestionably a person who broke the laws to get into our country. This is unquestionably a person in immigration judge. It's again, like, What do you think other people that are going to immigrate illegally to America and come into America illegally are thinking?
Starting point is 00:36:23 Do you think that the risk of being sent to Cicod and El Salvador is going to decrease the amount of people coming over? Because I think it absolutely will. It 100% will. Yeah, it sets an example. Of course. Which had found had zero right to be in the United States of America. We do not ask permission. Absolutely. It's horrifying. It is.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And I think that people don't understand this about this is one thing about Trump is that this might sound crazy. I think Trump is a genuine fucking psychopath. I do. I think he is a 100% psychopath and he would do this stuff without a second of hesitation. Mafia tactics? Yes. It's scary. Yes, exactly. And yeah, I agreed. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:18 It's unpredictable. Bessam. Yes, he's very, very, very good at doing this. And so to think that, like, they're going to put that past them, he absolutely would do it. From far left Democrats before we deport illegal immigrants, we do the American people's business. And again, for the American people who are watching, this is such a weird mistaken placement of priorities. We need to make our country. I agree with them, by the way.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I think it's very annoying to me that. When a person who's like a, you know, known supporter of a terrorist organization is getting deported, you're having protests for them trying. It's like basically it's a race to the bottom to find the most morally reprehensible person and then defend them as hard as you can. Stronger. We need to create jobs. We need to make our streets safer. What is it about congressional Democrats that get more angry at deporting violent gang members than they do? do at the victims of those violent gang members. I don't even understand where they're coming from. They've gone off the deep end and they've got to come back to reality.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I think it goes to the larger point, though, about the law fair happening right now. It's not just the immigration cases, but pretty much everything that the executive is doing right now has been challenged in these lower courts. Sure. Is there a way to expedite this straight to the Supreme Court? Or do we legally have to let lower courts, you know, make these decisions? It goes to the appeal courts and finally it goes to the Supreme Court. People are saying the four years.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It doesn't have to go to a court at all. I mean, what happens if Trump just does it anyway? Because that's what he's going to do. Even if the courts say he's not going to do it, he's going to do it anyway. And he has been. Like, am I crazy for thinking that the entire logic of the plane was outside of U.S. jurisdiction or outside of the United States like boundary, which means that they couldn't turn the plane around? what a that that's total bullshit
Starting point is 00:39:20 that's total bullshit like what rule how does any rule work like that but he just did it anyway it didn't matter yeah it didn't fucking matter it was an obvious setup yeah as these deportations are a big show totally crap um i think it's i think that the show of the deportations is good for sending a message for people that would potentially come over because if they see that a bunch of people are getting deported and sent to these like super jails they would probably be less likely to come over. To be up by this. Well, there are a lot of things that we can do,
Starting point is 00:39:53 not just appeals. We can limit the jurisdiction of certain courts. Even when certain courts make a ruling say that you're not allowed to deport a person for a certain reason, we can still deport that person for another reason. So it's not like deportations have stopped, but yes, the radical courts are a problem. But our view here is we knew we were going to have this fight. We were prepared for it. We're going to litigate it all the way to the Supreme Court. We think that we're going to win. win, that will end this question permanently. Think about this. The Democrats, they're spending so many resources fighting the deportation of gang members. You have to ask, where are their priorities? But we know. I think this is absolutely true. Like, they've totally lost the messaging with this,
Starting point is 00:40:35 where the focus is always around, you know, defending, you know, illegal, like, gang member migrants. Like, like, if you're finding yourself on their side, you're making a mistake. Knew they were going to do this. We're prepared for it, Lawrence, and we're going to fight all the way to the top of the courts. Mr. Vice President, I think about your life story.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Very similar to mine as well, growing up with nothing. And now you're the vice president of the United States. It's a great country, man. It is a great country. We're almost to the 100-day mark. We know the president's been strong on the border. We've seen almost operational control of the border at this point. We've seen the waste, fraud, and abuse being brought to a light.
Starting point is 00:41:19 How do you think, how would you rate this first hundred days? Man, I think the president has done more in 100 days than almost any administration has done in eight years. And I really think that when you consider the southern border, which was the biggest crisis that we got elected to solve, two months in, border crossings are almost at zero when it comes to illegal border crossings. When I think just about where I grew up, the factory closures, the fact that, you know, friends of mine were getting their parents laid off. I talked to a lot of people who couldn't afford a home on the campaign trail. I talk to women who are worried about... These are all the people that don't give a shit about the stock market, by the way.
Starting point is 00:41:58 These are all the people that could give less of a fuck that Black Rock's portfolio went down 3%. The price of a dozen eggs. We're making steady progress on all those issues. Yes, it doesn't happen overnight. But when you look at the hundreds of billions of dollars in new investment coming into our country, auto plants that were planned to close that are now adding shifts as opposed to closing. Egg prices that are way down, gasoline prices that are way down. We're making a lot of progress, but there's still a lot left to do.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And I know the president has laser focused on it. So am I. You have become almost the fighter-in-chief. The president sends out a message, and he puts it in bullet points for the American people. And then you go on the Sunday shows and you duke it out with them. Sometimes you have Duke. You do get out with world leaders in the Oval Office. as well. And there's a lot of people saying about the mantle of MAGA, what happens after these
Starting point is 00:42:51 four years. I guess this is my final question to you. Do you run for president after this? Do you, you, I know he's not going to give an answer. You're going to tell me you're going to focus on being vice president right now. But people are wondering if we can accomplish all of this in four years and they want some security in that. Is J.D. the man to continue the MAGA agenda? Well, look, man, I really am just not focused on politics. I'm not focused on the midterm elections in 2026, much less the presidential election in 2008. When we get to that point, I'll talk to the president.
Starting point is 00:43:26 We'll figure out what we want to do. But the way that I think about it is if we do a good job, the politics take care of themselves. I think that's true. Yeah, I think as long as people feel like they're in a better spot at the end of Trump's term, they'll vote for whoever is going to continue that. Like, yeah, deliver, deliver things and make it look good. That's the only thing that matters.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Look at Wisconsin. They lost that Supreme Court thing, right? That's because abortion's a losing issue. That's the reason why. It's a 70-30 issue that conservatives are on the losing end of. Stop pushing it. That's it. Like, I'm sorry, this is just what the numbers are.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You want to win? Again, take your own advice and stop taking 70, 30, 80, 20 issues. It was stupid. It was stupid to have gotten rid of Roe versus Wade. It was stupid to have not made it a federal law. And it massively set back Republicans in a tangible way, especially with women. It was a mistake. America to be wealthy again.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I want our communities to be safe again. I want us to be opening factories rather than closing down factories. I want people of my generation to be able to afford a home to raise a family in. And I want to stop all the ridiculous wars that were started by the previous administrations. There's so much to do, man, and I don't really think that much about what happens in three. A lot of people are arguing we don't need Rob versus Wade. I'm pro-abortion. Even if you think abortion is medieval killing babies, the majority of the country doesn't.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And if you fixate on that issue, you'll lose not only on that issue, but you'll lose and all of the other issues too. So is it worth it to you to grandstand about this issue at the expense of not only never getting what you want with this issue, but on top of that, sabotaging other issues at the same time?
Starting point is 00:45:29 I am pragmatic. I'm pragmatic. I think the answer to that is no. I think abortion is horrible. I think it's medieval. It's awful. But I think people should be able to do it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Regardless of popularity, it shouldn't be federal. I think it should be. I think abortion is a human rights issue and human rights should be decided on a federal level and not a state level. That's my opinion. Three and a half years.
Starting point is 00:45:57 If I do a good job, if the president does a good job, and by the way, keep telling me I'm wrong, that's fine. You'll keep losing. This is just an issue that most people don't fucking agree with. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Like, that's it. People, and I know that we will, the politics will take care of itself. Let's just do a good job. Well, when you do decide, you got to make it me a promise. It's going to be on Fox and Friends. It has to be, Mr. President, thank you so much. We appreciate it. All right, family, just wrapped up with the Vice President of the United States. J.D. Vance, I'll send it to you guys. Good job, Lawrence. Great. Thank you. I'm Steve Ducey. I'm Brett. Very good interview. Yeah, I thought it was a good interview.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think he asked a lot of the questions that a lot of people had. I'll link you guys to video as well. Yeah, the baby killers. I know people, people really get, you can't say separation of church and state, then turn around and federally ban abortion because of Christian values look like a retard at that point. The people that are saying separation of church and state are not the ones that are saying to allow abortion or ban abortion. Sorry. So like this is really what I think with that is that, again, I think that the sooner that conservatives and like the MAGA people and like the Trump like population, they need to move away from the abortion issue. They do. It is massively fucking polarizing. They're on the losing side of it. And at the end of the day, people are still going to get abortions. It's like weed, right?
Starting point is 00:47:38 I think weed is another great example. A lot of people didn't like smoking weed. They didn't like the fact that people were smoking weed. And they were very, you know, like, okay, well, we're going to make a law against it. We're going to put you in jail for smoking weed or for whatever other reason. And you know what happened? it caused Republicans and conservatives to lose over and over and over until they acquiesced and they decided,
Starting point is 00:47:59 you know what, maybe weed isn't all so bad. That's it. And so, again, like, you, my, my perspective with basically everything is that Trump did not lose women voters on abort. Trump did not lose women voters on abortion. Stop being a coward and start talking about some of the drawbacks, cost of these policies. Well, I can pull you up.
Starting point is 00:48:26 What do you think a drawback is? What's your point? Yeah, what is the drawback that I'm not discussing? You can type it out. I'll continue this while he types it. Yeah, they're clearly not on the losing side, though. And MSM just inflates it like everything else? No, actually they are.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Abortion, polling America. So this right here is the public opinion on abortion right here. and you can see that it's 60% of people, 63% of people are pro-abortion and legal in most cases versus illegal in most cases. So you see like obviously, you know, there are a lot of people who are religious, and this is like very much a religious perspective.
Starting point is 00:49:14 But collectively you can see women do, like there are 33% of women that are against abortion. So it's not like this is a one-sided issue, but it is true that this is a massive issue for women. 63% is nothing. No, it's not. 63% is larger than the amount of people that want mass deportations. 63% is majority. 63%.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Did Trump win by 63%? No, he won by a fraction of that. So do you think McDonald's will keep their prices the same? No, inflation is going to cause all prices to go up. If they hire American workers, so we're going to have higher prices for more expensive labor? No, I don't think they're going to hire American workers either. I think that it's better for them to deport all of the illegals.
Starting point is 00:49:58 because they're not going to have any jobs because everything's going to be automated, including McDonald's. So when McDonald's is fully automated and you have two employees that do the work of 10, where the fuck are all these illegal immigrants going to go? Well, they're not going to go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I think they should go back to where they came from. How about that? So this is a false dichotomy. I don't even think about it like that. It's not about what's best for American workers. It's about why are these people here in the first place when their jobs are just going to get replaced anyway? really and that's
Starting point is 00:50:32 Rages also what you see what I'm saying here Trump is powerful but he can't prevent McDonald's from raising the cost of your cheeseburgers well it doesn't matter because I get my cheeseburgers from a better place than McDonald's number one and number two he also can't prevent the ongoing automation and it's the automation
Starting point is 00:50:52 that's really going to be a lot bigger than anything else that that's really where it's going to go come from do we import beef I don't know. I don't know about every import of everything. Who produces the automated devices? There's a bit of delay. Who produces the automated devices? It depends, right? And that's why it's important to make manufacturing here in the U.S., and that's why you set the foundation for that now, because in 20 years you're going to have fully autonomous places. And you already have a few of them already.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And so you start that now. Now, another good point is that you're bringing up is that other places might actually still create the devices. That's a good point, and I think it will probably still be true. And it's not a binary thing. Slaver was popular at one time. It didn't become immoral. It always was. Labor has to produce the automations. You have poor people working the factories, men?
Starting point is 00:51:42 No, poor people will not be working factories. Robots will be working factories. That's just the entire... Why would poor people be working in factories whenever you could just have a machine do the same thing? It doesn't even make any sense. You can't automate a drywaller? Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So your argument is... that because there's a handful of jobs that are harder to automate, then automation isn't going to be a massive impact on, and we weren't talking about drywalling, were we? We were talking about McDonald's, and McDonald's already has an autonomous, like, locations. So, yeah, number one is yet, and number two is that that's not even what the conversation was about. Here's the problem with your logic. It fucks us now.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, it does. You know, you're right. You're absolutely right. It does. That's true. Let me look at a few more of these. Thank you.

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