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Episode Date: August 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Pymonds, wait what? Okay, here's the thing. If voice actors both non-union and union and a video- It's funny because of the voice, right? It's really funny. Like, it's actually so funny. Video game, want a game to go union. The game should go union.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Wait, what did they say? Okay, here's the thing. If voice actors both non-union and union in a video game want a game to go union, the game should go union. Nobody else's opinion matters. Well, what about the people who are making the game that pay you the money? I feel like their opinion kind of matters, right? Because like if you, the thing is like, so if they're paying you money, then their opinion matters.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's crazy how fast, like, bro, they're going to get replaced with AI real quick. Like, this is about to be like, yo, you're going to have chat GPT for by a time that they bring out the next arcon and Genshin. That's what's going to happen. That's it. That's it. And YouTubers don't know anything. YouTubers don't know anything. They're not voice actors.
Starting point is 00:01:01 They've never been in my industry. They don't know what my industry is about. They don't know anything about SAG. They don't anything about being a non-union actor either. And we don't care. You're right about all those points. It doesn't matter. Nobody gives a fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Nobody cares about this, but you. What matters is the end customer. And so, like, by being a voice actor or something like this, nobody gives a fuck. Nobody, like, it doesn't matter. Like, it's, why would, why would a YouTuber care about, like, what it's like being a voice actor? You, like, people that do YouTube videos about a game, these are consumers, these are end consumers.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Why would a consumer care about, basically, this is a big issue that a lot of artists have, is that artists place a lot of value into the process of art, but the end user usually does not. So this is a big problem. that a lot of these people have is that they're unable to empathize with the thinking of the people that they're trying to sell a product with sell a product too excuse me and so like if you have people that you can't think like them and you're trying to sell them a product well guess what's going to happen you're going to have a bad time you're going to have a really bad time and so that's really what the issue is so we don't need to know what it we don't need to know what it's like Stop telling me to go to liars.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Liars. Liars. They are paid to lie to you. Who's paid? Also, I'm sorry. They have more incentive to lie. They have more of an incentive to lie because idiots like you fall for their shit and they get paid for that. Hello?
Starting point is 00:02:48 God forbid. No, no. See, you just don't like, she just don't get it, bro. Like, she don't get it. and she just don't get it like it is people understand your point of view they just don't care about it it's not complicated you want more money you want more money you want protections for your job that's really what it's going to narrow down to right like these two things is what it's going to come down to you really think that nobody can fucking figure this out i want my industry to actually
Starting point is 00:03:32 like, I don't know, function and that everybody gets paid and everybody gets like healthcare. Did you know that like once things become union, people get paid a lot more? So people are like, oh, but. Why would a customer want that? Why would a customer want you to get paid more money? Because usually if there are wage increases, the end user could end up paying more money. The big problem that a lot of these people in these Hollywood industries and Hollywood unions have is that they think that there is any sort of solidarity. and understanding that the average person has about a person in entertainment not getting paid
Starting point is 00:04:12 enough money. The reality is that entertainment is seen as a luxury industry, and that's the reason why when a streamer complains about their job, everybody gets mad at them. And it's because people think working in entertainment is really easy, and it's effortless and it's just like dumb. So whether you think that's true or not, I don't need to debate that with you because it doesn't matter what you think. What matters is what the audience thinks.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And if the audience thinks that, then that's what it is. And there's just people just don't like, there's a lot of people like this and that they're so intellectually and emotionally captured by their thinking that it prevents them from seeing the point of view of anybody else. And if they do see the point of view of somebody else, they are unwilling to compromise with this person at all. and they just tell the person that they're wrong and they shouldn't think that way. That's not the way it works. So intellectual retort. Yeah, exactly. And so, like, you tell me, and this is the way it is, like, you know, for example, actors crying in COVID.
Starting point is 00:05:16 People are like, well, and I bet being an actor during COVID was stressful. I bet it was. But, like, nobody has any sympathy for people that work in the entertainment industry. And that's pretty much a period at the end of that. And maybe it shouldn't be like that. But it do. You know, then some non-union actors will have to join the union. Yeah, they'll be able to easily because they'll get paid more.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Also, there are options that the union has to help pay for those things. There are options to help people pay for the union dues within SAG, but you don't know that. Oh my God, it's almost like you're not an actor. It's almost like you're not a voice actor. Well, you're not. Yeah, exactly. They're not. So why would they care about what you think?
Starting point is 00:06:03 why they care about this? Like they're going to side with the company. They don't care about how people don't care about how things are made. They care about what it is. And so if the product is a problem, they're going to look at you as the one that's the problem. That's it. It's so fucking entitled. Well, it's the thing is like I support unions and everything like this, but what I don't support
Starting point is 00:06:31 is like this like weird thing where these people like, they don't even. understand or try to look at it from the point of view of somebody disagrees with them or doesn't really care and i think this is a big problem and i'm going to tell you what the end result actually let me finish this video then i'll talk about it and neither are these YouTubers but bottom line is is that both non-union actors and union actors in a video game want it to go union and have wanted it to go union for a long time yeah so nobody else's opinion that is super fucking wrong anyway matters. Hope this help. Is that it? Okay, that's it. So here's what's going to happen is that you're going to get replaced
Starting point is 00:07:13 with AI and you're going to have to, I don't know, like do DoorDash or something. That's what's going to happen to you. And the reason why it's going to happen is because you are disagreeable, annoying, and you're asking for something that you think that you're entitled to that you're not. you're not entitled to always having this company do whatever you want. You're not entitled to making the customer base of the game agree with you and making an appeal to your authority on it. As if these people that you're talking to have no similar experience, do you think that people don't understand what a union is?
Starting point is 00:07:53 People don't understand this? Like, yeah, I'm sure some people don't. But I think the majority of people, especially average like adults, understand what a union is. And so all these people that are getting mad about this on Genshin Impact, like they're really wild and out about this too. Like it's crazy. Genshin, VA.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Let me see if I find any of this. They're really cacking voice actor who defended a known sexual abuser draws the line when it's a voice actor from Japan. Why, these people, they are just popping the fuck off. So this is what's going to happen. Gaming game sign interim is the best outcome for all actor. Or publicly saying that you're okay with putting non-union voice actors in a bad situation of game companies sign the interim.
Starting point is 00:08:33 What game companies need to do, like if I was Hoyover's, this is what I would be doing. I would be thinking about how can I get AI in my games as fast as possible that consumers don't care about and it has the same level of quality so I can stop paying these psychotic freaks that are sitting around on Twitter trying to fuck up my product. That's what I would be doing. China has AI laws?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Well, that's a great thing that they're in Singapore and not China then, right? And so anyway, never doubt. Yeah, exactly. And I'm going to tell you this is what's going to happen. Hear a high video about this. I watch a little bit about this because I just, I think these people don't understand, like, they don't understand where this is going. Like, I know where this is going.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I tell you where this is going. They don't want to know it. And you see, like, this is crazy. You know what? I'm going to watch, oh, my God. We need to get the Genshing community ban from it. they're trying to get the community banned so they're going to call them stupid
Starting point is 00:09:35 get them banned complain that they're not getting enough money and then be surprised whenever the customers don't don't don't like they're not on your side bitch what what what are you doing welcome back hope you've been having a great weekend and believe it or not we've got another set of up there's always ginschen drama and like i usually
Starting point is 00:09:59 the day that it happens i usually don't pay attention to it because it's usually like, oh, what? Some mentally ill middle school girl came up with some problem that nobody has. But like this seems like there's a lot of adults that are just acting like mentally ill middle school girls. And so we're going to take a look and investigate into this topic, right? This is crazy. It's easy to talk like that about people who's the ones that jobs of risk are crazy. What about the actual majority of normal people, decent, hardworking men and women?
Starting point is 00:10:29 If they're crazy. Is this about like kind of how I'm not? I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm the most empathetic and I'm the most pro-worker person that there is. But being pro-worker doesn't mean you're pro-retard. Telling it to people the way it is is not being an asshole. It's being kind. Coddling, obfuscating, and using a bunch of euphemisms to disguise a reality.
Starting point is 00:11:08 that everybody knows is coming, does nobody any benefits other than you for making yourself feel like you're a good person? You're not. You're not a good person, not you particularly, saying in general. You're not a good person for lying to somebody, feeding them a false reality, and then when they have to reap the consequences of that false reality being shattered, you're nowhere to be found. You're on to the next cause. Your virtue signal. You're a to the next thing. Meanwhile, they don't have any fucking money. So when I tell it to people and I say this is the way it is,
Starting point is 00:11:48 I'm doing it for their benefit. And I'm the only one that thinks like this because everybody else doesn't. They're too worried about being seen in the right way. It says to patent yourself on the back. Yeah, exactly. The only person who should be patting themselves on the back is me, which is what makes sense.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Updates to go over regarding this ongoing situation. with a number of sag after a voice actors. And I don't even do that. And now they've been getting a ton of backlash I don't need to do that large, but especially the Genshin Impact community who has done a great job of exposing these people. This is now like the fourth video I've made on this topic,
Starting point is 00:12:28 the last three all around 15 to 19 minutes long or so. And at this point in time, there's just way too much to recap here in the intro without being like extremely long-winded and redundant. So hopefully you are in the loop with what's been going on. Yeah, but if you don't know about any of this stuff, please consider watching my prior videos. And or you can even just go to like the Genschen Impact subreddit, look at the top post from the last week.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And scrolling through that, you should see plenty of information, although some of those posts were apparently getting mass reported by the defenders of these Crupt VAs to try and get the information taken down and censored. What a surprise. It does seem like since then, some of those posts have actually been reinstated by the Genshin Impact moderators, though. But just know, that's been an ongoing issue too. Wow. All right. Thanks for your patience. Now on to the new stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Okay. We're going to start with something very amusing. I think you guys are going to find this hilarious. So I got this tag from enthusiasm. make you for the tag. It says, hey, Hero Hey, check this out. Absolute cinema of failed damage control. And that takes us to a top post on our Genshin Impact from 14 hours ago titled, a voice actor came on Reddit, arguing why Jacob Takanashi, the new VA for Kenich slash Mahoyo were in the wrong. Mahoyo, of course, referring to like Hoyover, Skenton Impact, etc., etc.
Starting point is 00:13:36 After having all their points refuted, they, the voice actor, deleted their entire account. I love it. I love it. Oh. Yeah, go figure. It's even worse than that, though, because this person originally went to Ardiction Impact trying to do this damage control and didn't work there. Everyone calling him out and exposing his lies. Then he went over to the Gotcha Gaming subreddit and tried it there where the gotcha. This is what I said before about like these people, their worldview and their existence can only exist inside of a vacuum.
Starting point is 00:14:11 They can only exist and succeed when everybody else who disagrees with them is size. and nobody can speak out against it. They can only exist. It's like, you know, like how those, there's like, you know, those white rhinos and those pandas whose dicks don't work. And so they're in an endangered species. And they have to be on like a reservation and be protected. Well, this is kind of the same thing. Because like these people, they can't exist in the natural order of things.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And so they have to be on their own little protected, you know, species reservation. Gaming community at large also exposed this person. lies. I'm just saying that's the way is. They track down this VA's blue sky account and on the blue sky account we'll take a look at in a moment. We can see that VA. That says you already said enough. He already says a blue sky account. We already know what it's going to be. Everybody knows what it's going to be. It's going to be some dumb shit. Saying that the whole Genshin impact subreddit deserves to be banned. Yeah, that's the reservation. And also reposting posts from other blue sky VAs that are essentially advocating for non-union VAs to get harassed. We'll get to all that. First,
Starting point is 00:15:19 let's take it from the top. So he makes this attempted damage. control post filled with a bunch of misleading information and gaslighting the exact same stuff these people have already tried over the last thing supporting a billion dollar company not agreeing to do the bare minimum is wrong you don't get to decide what's wrong and right people do they don't give a fuck about you they don't care about you they care about the multi billion dollar company they care about the product like you try to make this wrong and right argument like you're some kind of fucking hero this isn't a marvel movie get the fuck out of here people just want to play a video game and not have to deal with some bullshit like that's literally it uh it's these people always
Starting point is 00:15:50 self-aggrandized themselves like they're fighting against some kind of fucking uh you know like thanos or something it's so embarrassing like what are you even thinking like really it's it's just pathetic bro like really it's so pathetic days that we already talked about here on the channel has been refuted over and over again and so going to right to the top responses to when we can see comments like this why does every voice actor or sag shill come here with uh but did you know taut hartley yeah do you think it'll magically solve all our concerns like anyone who reads one single thread regarding VA drama and sub is aware of Tapped Hartley and how complicated actually is the three-time limit in 90 days and so on yet they chime in thinking we know nothing
Starting point is 00:16:29 about Tapt Hartley. How ignorant are they? Koi went dead silent when they asked about that. Funniest stuff ever. Not only that, his signed first negotiate later comment like buddy, that's not how it works. You negotiate the terms first so both parties know what they are signing and what is expected of each of them. Funny how they all say the exact same thing. Almost like they received a guide telling them what to say in their posts. Well, they probably did. They disappear when they're asked the problematic questions. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:16:53 They're 100% receiving their talking points from SAG AfterA. They always say, stop spreading misinformation. And this is for AI protections. The average person doesn't care about AI voice acting. And I think I can prove that with Darth Vader. It's been AI for years. What? How about that, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's a literal fact. Like, that's the way it is. But then don't elaborate when asked further questions or vague about it. Yeah. what it's you guys spreading misinformation they sound like freaking robots at this point regurgitating the same spiel every time the voice actor who made this post is probably reading this right now and getting people to report this post as we speak edit sean laraway the poster changed his blue sky description to genshin impact is cringe because he's all mad this is
Starting point is 00:17:43 so you like how do you think that like how do you think this is going to work so you have a bunch of these like theater kids that are in like they're in rage face and they're they're really uh uh they're really having a they're really having a moment and you think that you're going to be in a good situation by telling the people that pay you money that their game is cringe like are you retarded really like what do you what do you think you're doing how do you be that stupid comedy link for anyone who wants to chuckle it always ends with them trashing on the game this is childish Yeah, another great example of this recently was Chera Kirby and her giant rant she made on Blue Sky. And so speaking of Blue Sky, let's hop over to the Blue Sky account linked in that Reddit post.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Oh, this is the reservation. That's the VA who made that whole damage control thing over on Reddit. Here's the post I was mentioning earlier. He says, Bro, we got half the website to like his comment. Isn't that crazy? Damn, bro. Like, wow.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Intention Impact Subreddit deserves to be banned at this point. Yeah. Freaking hilarious. So that subreddit needs to get banned because they disagree with you. People don't, yeah, for sure, bro. Like, absolutely. Thetic, of course. And then he's also reposting this blue sky post from another voice actor that reads,
Starting point is 00:19:18 much like how a tolerant group must still be intolerant towards intolerance. A cornerstone of union culture is making sure that scabs, regardless of any sort of legal justifications for what they did, feel constant scorn, shame, and derision for willingly betraying their fellow workers. Piss off. So what's the logic here that you can bully scabs but customers can't bully you? What's the logic? Because you think that you're the one that's right?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Well, isn't that convenient for you? But really, there's no logic. Yeah, there's no logic. This is not how it works. Like, it's crazy how I get. These people love to have acceptable targets. That's, oh, they love it. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:20:05 What's a scab? So a scab, this is like so. A scab is like when you're in a union and there are people that work through a worker's strike, like a strike is like where you don't go to work. Like everybody collectively decides we're not going to work until you give us what we want. And a scab is a person who says, I'm still going to work. And they basically allow the company to continue existing and not have to meet the demands of the union. That's what a scab is.
Starting point is 00:20:36 continues to rage and then reference Jacob Takanashi insults in the dude and basically trying to get people to harass him but then you really had voice actors like Little Cribo and Kiba Walker the other day basically trying to say that oh no voice actors are trying to get you harassed Jacob that's not happening. While to say ball is in his court when five voice actors just so sent their rabid fan bases to attack him is actually crazy foreigners aren't expected to strike for something their labor laws already protect them from nobody sent fan bases to attack them you realize that's what y'all are doing right uh like read the text straight up
Starting point is 00:21:06 No one said go attack him for doing this. Yeah, yeah, no, you are. You are, if you post and you call somebody a scab, and then there's a whole culture around that, like you're absolutely calling for somebody to get harassed. And like, again, you want to call for somebody to get harassed, go ahead, do it. But like, don't go and act like you're a victim. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And you can see, like, this is clearly like, you know, like her getting mad. Your community is sending death threats and talking about people's dead relatives, thousands of equivalent. It's just hosed mad. I mean, look at this, 3,000 likes or 3,000 views. It's got five likes. 3,000 views. It's got 3.3. This even got more. It's got 205.
Starting point is 00:21:39 It's pretty obvious where the people stand on this. And it's certainly not with these people. Meanwhile, now they're the ones trying to play victim. Many people viewing this as a desperate attempt at further damage control. See, this is the problem, right? Is they go and they attack somebody and they want to be able to harass and attack people that don't follow the rules that they've decided that everybody needs to follow for voice acting. And basically, like now it's like, well, now,
Starting point is 00:22:04 people are calling us out for bullying, so now we're getting bullied. But it isn't this weird, right? Is that you use the idea of the paradox of tolerance, that you can't tolerate the intolerant, but you never think that this is being reflected on you where people are not tolerating your intolerance towards other people that don't want to agree with you. Like, isn't this the same paradox, but you're the ones who are the ones that were being intolerant? It's horses.
Starting point is 00:22:34 No, I'm really, you think about this. you really, you think it out and it don't make sense. So many of the narratives that they've been trying to spin have completely shattered and how much public goodwill they've lost. And so ultimately the VA who made the Argencion Impact post that completely flopped that people are alleging as that Larway person, then ran over to the Argosha gaming subreddit to make basically the same post trying to damage control there.
Starting point is 00:23:00 But it turns out public reception is the same he got over on Argenian Impact, with people calling out his nonsense and top comments like anytime a random VA appears to explain the so-called AI protection quote-unquote, they completely disappear and refuse to say anything once you bring the issue of interim agreement that they want to force companies to sign. I wonder why. Edit, I woke up and he already deleted his account as expected, lull. He went to the Genshin Impact subreddit, got all of his points refuted,
Starting point is 00:23:28 deleted his account, then changed his blue sky description to Genshin Impact is cringe. Quick side note, I thought he went to Genshin Impact and then Gautchia Gaming, but maybe it was the other way around. Either way, same outcome. You get the point. And then this response to that says absolutely. Yeah, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And so, and by the way, this is one thing. I just want to see this real quick because this is a comment that somebody made. And I think that, say somebody said, Darth Vader isn't a good example. James Earl Jones is an iconic actor and people miss him as the actual voice, but 99% of voice actors, nobody knows who cares about who they are. I think you're making my point for me, actually, is that because none of these people actually have, like any sort of like real identity other than like the characters that they're attached to. That's the reason why people aren't going to give a shit about them.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So I actually think Darth Vader becomes a better example by that is that if you can do this to like a very famous actor and people can all know that it's not this person, then what's the probability that you can do it to unknown actors that most people don't really know about that well and it doesn't make a difference. You see what I'm saying? Like that's how I see it. Absolutely loser behavior. Another top comment reading.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm pretty sure they receive talking points from SAG to gaslight us that joining them is for the greater good. Of course. Gee, that phrase sounds familiar and it doesn't have any malicious undertones behind it. Hmm. Anyways, because of them attacking Jacob and labeling him a scab, Genschen Impact players developed the legendary skill of literacy. Wow. And decided to do what they want, which is to do some research.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Too bad what we were able to find when combing the agreement is malicious and sounds like they want to monopolize the entire Ian dubbing space. Of course they do. That's the thing. And they want to maintain control. And this is the problem that some unions have is that, and I'm not going to talk about this in this particular circumstance, but I'll say in a general sense, is that I think that like average customers are generally on the side of unions. Like they're actually like more pro union than not. But the issue is that when the unions are doing things that are detrimental for a game or for like an experience, that's whenever you have like the fans that push back on it right and so when you're asking for something
Starting point is 00:25:42 that isn't in the best interest of the players for whatever reason or it's not even in the best interest the company you're just trying to strong arm them you lose that sympathy and this is how unions can also be bad like i'm more pro-union than anti-union but it doesn't mean that i agree with everything that unions ever do and since the genie is now out of the bottle they're trying really hard to convince us that it's good for a VA to join the film actors killed and no it's not a monopoly stop looking at our documents well that's what they're trying to do yeah if they have everybody in the guild
Starting point is 00:26:11 then that way they can force people to agree with them that's exactly yeah exactly like that's clear yeah like so basically like you want to establish a monopoly so you can price fix and you can make people pay you this amount of money that's the goal like obviously that's the goal that's smart like I did this in in video games yourself at the foot and then there's blowing yourself up with a
Starting point is 00:26:35 bazooka. And finally, going back to Sean Laraway's Blue Sky account, we can see the bio now reads, we'll always pick on scabs. Oh yeah, these people... You're always going to pick on them? That's fine. You want to pick on them. That's okay. But you just have to expect that people are going to pick on you. See, that's the problem that these people have.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I got no problem with people that want to go and do this, but you can't go and get vitriolic and then be surprised when people say, nope, nope, that's weird. Like, we don't like you. That's the issue is they want it both ways. They want to be able to be vitriolic and aggressive, but they don't ever want anybody who is doing that to them.
Starting point is 00:27:16 People are so brave, having a giant union like sag after backing them and their whole click. As they pick a single individual, Jacob Takanashi, he had a bully and harassed. This is all going so poorly for the union voice actors that there's now top post-norgension impact like this one from just one hour ago, saying if half of the characters get recast, then so be it. I used to be for the VA strike
Starting point is 00:27:35 in that AI was the initial threat to their livelihoods. Now as the truth unfolds, this whole strike is just a Trojan horse for Western companies to stick their grubby little hands to a piece of the pie. This outbursts from Pacific VAs is no coincidence. They've probably been feeling this way for a while.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And now that there is an outlet, they thought this would be a great chance to rally the troops. Well, now it has completely backfired and the only thing to show is that some of these VAs are petty and completely unprofessional. Yeah, quick side note.
Starting point is 00:28:02 that's something a lot of us have known for years about the Western VA industry. But it's good that more people are becoming aware of that. So continuing, most VAs are considered lucky to work on a consistent project that is aimed to last for several years, and you're a recurring character. I'd say that Hoyo has waited long enough and the gloves should come off. If half the characters do... I think that they should, too.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like, if I was Hoyoverse, what I would do is I would just replace all these people with AI. I would find people that are, like, decent actors, and then just, like, kind of use them, and then use that voice as, AI and that'll be it. They waited for six months? Yeah. And also like why wouldn't you do this?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Like this is clearly like a big problem that affects your product. I mean, if you're trying to make a good product and you're trying to deliver that product to a customer, aren't you going to try to go with the method that's the most stable that doesn't have like the chance of popping off on Twitter? AI voice acting is dog shit? No, it's not. AI voice is not good enough yet. Yeah. well, when it will be, well, I mean, again, like, I think that's a good point. You're saying it's not good enough yet. Let's assume that it is. Let's assume it's not good enough. Let's just
Starting point is 00:29:12 assume you're right. You want to lay the foundation to be able to use the AI in the future. That way you can transition over to that and you don't have to worry about these people trying to strong arm you. That's just a smart thing to do if you're making a game like this. And I think that's what, like if I was them, that's what I would do. recast then so be it i would rather see hoyo put their foot down and put a halt to the en dubbing side sort out the vAs that are still upholding their professionalism and get rid of the rest we don't need that toxicity here it's already bad enough that the game gets enough of a divided reputation now the vays are not helping they need to go it's all fun in games until en players stop spending because the characters are inconsistently voiced now that we know what's really going on it's safe to say they are already doing that a top comment reading do a power play realize you You don't have any power. That's the problem. All of your VAs get recast.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Video game companies will now hire non-union VAs to avoid you. That's right. It makes one wonder what the heck sag after it was thinking about going against the $187 billion a year industry that can and will hire VAs from other countries. And this is the other problem is that this is a company that's not based around the West. Like this is a Singaporean company that comes from China. You're not going to be able to bully them into doing things the same way. that you can with an American company. Because they have a totally different value system over there.
Starting point is 00:30:36 They don't even understand what the fuck you're saying. They don't care. And this is what I said before. This is the part of the AI conversation that many people who are anti-AI refuse to acknowledge is the fact that even if the United States bans AI, it doesn't stop customers, sorry, companies. overseas from using it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And to the extent that you have a free market and those AI products are comparable and better, people will choose those products because the end product is all that matters. And that's the issue that these people don't have. Yeah, we don't care. Just put the English dub's voice in the game. Exactly, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 And so they don't understand that the whole world is involved in the economy now. And so you can't like force Western contemporary AI artist ideals on a company that's in China. Like, they don't even know what you're saying, literally, because you're speaking in English. Video game industry is not Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:31:43 That's just how it is. Well, you know, the sad fact of the matter is a lot of the Genschen Impact community for a while was supporting these VAs and their agenda without questioning anything. Like, it was going well for them for a minute there. It's really over the last... But, like, the moment that you start demonizing the community,
Starting point is 00:31:56 like nobody wants to be talked down to by a person who is being paid to make a character. And also, like, like, the characters in Genshin are all, like, nice and upbeat and funny. And so, like, when you have, like, your character from Genshin that's, like, this nice, super upbeat and funny person, and then you have them go and fucking do like this,
Starting point is 00:32:17 like, I swear to God, like, I mean, really, you look like a nutball. You being crazy. That's six to four months or four months. or so where things began to start crumbling for them. Not to mention patronizing. That's basically when the crack started to appear as more and more people began to look into what was really going on.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And then more recently with the harassment of Jacob Takanashi, that's what really caused everything to reach this boiling point, facilitating the overall community to turn against these union voice actors. And the last thing that we'll take a look at in this video is SAGAFTRA themselves, over on Twitter. The official account for SAGAFTRA trying to publicly drum up some support as they reach out to Genschen Impact saying, what Aneris Q said. Tension Impact that Honkai Starail at ZZZ will make it easy for you.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Here's a link to our interactive slash video game media agreements. Let's talk soon, a wink. Following the recurring theme. Nobody's going to like this shit, bro. Like this is, it's some like weird ass fucking Twitter, Twitter girl shit. Like, uh-uh, bro. How about no? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:21 It's a ransom? Yeah, it's not going to happen. And you should know that while Pymond's voice actor is spewing all that shit about scabs, she's still working and collecting money. Wow. Is it another, so you're telling me this is another example of a person who actually has no skin in the game that has nothing to lose. That's just being openly angry and aggressive to other people who do. Wow. I think this might be the first time that's happened. That we've seen so far, this also ended up going terribly for them as they got this community note added to it, which reads,
Starting point is 00:33:57 She says because she's disabled, so it's okay. I mean, I already watched the video. I knew that. This agreement has severe limitations on how Mahoyo can work with non-union voice actors, including a lifetime time limit for the voice actor, and eventually forcing the voice actor to either join the union, which has large entry costs and fees, or stop working on the project. Sag Aftera had also used this message from a minute. Harris, as we saw, quote tweeting. This is the dark side of unions, and this is why people are anti-union.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's stuff like this, this strong arming. So let's check out that message, too. voice actress and heiress Q saying hey Genshin impact at Honkai Starrail at ZZZEN we English VAs would love to get back to work I know the fans miss hearing their Fave Keras and we miss voicing them please negotiate with SAG after it and sign the interim agreement to guarantee AI protections that message also getting the community note which points out how yeah there's a lot more to all this than just the AI protections that these people seem to keep trying to manipulate the public sentiment with and getting responses such as Madam Savvy saying so how's the community
Starting point is 00:35:02 note bill and tk a dem saying don't they have to drop all non new ys when they sign the agreement as well as this one from jasper saying what's your take on the vAs who bully and verbally assault other vAs and there is making this follow-up tweet that then says there's way too many bad faith comments and missing it's just all fake everybody that's calling me out is lying and everything they're saying is fake okay so for now please refer to this thread for correct information i concur with everything stated and link into a a thread by Koi Dow, which many people have also refuted, and we've discussed in previous videos, which, by the way, this whole saga after tweet thing happened on March 26, so I'm a bit
Starting point is 00:35:39 late to covering this one, my apologies. And the last thing to take note of really quick is that despite some voice actors, like the really angry ones that we discussed earlier in the video, it seems like a lot of the VAs who've been publicly talking about this stuff have gone radio silent over the last 24 to 48 hours. Because they know they're losing, that's the problem. they're losing the sentiment of the community and the fact is that the sentiment of the community is the only thing that they can leverage.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Because if the community doesn't care about them being replaced and recast, then the company will do it. So you have to maintain a positive relationship publicly with people. But the problem is that these voice actors, and this goes back to what I said before about people in entertainment,
Starting point is 00:36:23 people in entertainment don't realize that the majority of the average population views the entertainment industry as a luxury industry. So when you're complaining about things in the entertainment industry and you're talking to somebody that works in an auto company or somebody that works at an insurance company or, you know, a construction worker, I mean, probably not very many of those play Genshin, but I'm sure some do.
Starting point is 00:36:48 They're not going to have the same level of sympathy that you think they will. That's the problem they don't get. Yeah, put the fries in the bag. that's what it comes down to doesn't it yeah it's no coincidence that trump made those day one executive orders to open the u.s to a i you can't compete against the global push for ai this is happening everywhere and the voice actors are only one frontier losing the war yeah and it's just disappointing that they're that they're too i don't know like naive to not see that and like i feel bad for them it it sucks that this is happening but it's happening to everybody and you're not the first person it's happened to it happened to people with automation in auto in like look at Detroit Detroit used to be one of the
Starting point is 00:37:31 biggest and most like wealthy cities in the world and now it's a PVP server. Why is that? Well it's precisely for the same reason it's because of technology replacing jobs and that's what's going to keep happening more and more and more. It's rather interesting. Perhaps they're
Starting point is 00:37:50 trying to come up with their next line of rhetoric or something. Or maybe it's just coincidence that they all began to go radio silent at the same time, all dealing with the loss of goodwill in their own ways, who knows for sure. Yeah, let me know what you think about all this stuff in the comments. As always, thank you so much for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed my coverage. And if you did, please consider liking and or subscribe to the channel. Have a great week ahead and I'll see you in the next one. It's so crazy for me to see them do this because they're
Starting point is 00:38:16 just, they're totally own-golling themselves. They are. And this is really bad. Like this is, I'm sure, like, yeah, this is the video that I was just looking at. And so we just, we just found this and they're molding out. The fact is, I'll link you all the video, give it a like and already lost seven to one. Yeah. Eventually, I think AI might take so many jobs. This significant portion of the world is out of work? Yeah, I think that's exactly what's
Starting point is 00:38:40 going to happen. And anyway, companies moved out of the U.S. because we started raising the price of living and inflation wages didn't keep up. Well, also, I mean, like, if you, here's the thing, is that any type of technology, like, if you look back historically, there has never been a time where
Starting point is 00:38:56 the people who refuse to use, and utilize technology were seen as the ones that were not regressive and silly. So that's really the big problem that I think a lot of these people have is that they have no historical frame of reference to look at things from the perspective outside of their own best interests. And that's what's happening a lot. Cell phone tower employees die, but the world keeps moving forward and cell phone tech towers keep improving.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Exactly. Yeah. And why can't you show them the right way and be empathetic instead of shitting on people who are about to lose jobs. Because being empathetic to people is, you don't want me to be empathetic. Like, I am being empathetic. I'm telling them what they need to hear.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm not a coddling type of guy, right? I mean, like, this is something like, you know, this is the way you treat a child. The fact is that, like, these are grown adults. These are adult men and adult women that you don't need to mince words with. You need to tell them the truth and you need to be direct with them in an honest way
Starting point is 00:39:54 and make them understand the situation that they're in. And if you need to be coddled like a child, then I think that's your problem and not mine. I think the way I'm talking about this is extremely fair. And I think also what's going to happen is that in the long run, I'm going to be right. And I don't think anybody is really even disputing that. And that's the problem is that a lot of people complain about the way that I talk about this, but they never complain about what I'm saying because they know it's true. And the problem is that we're all going to lose their jobs.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yes, they are. And we can go back to the slavery or UBI, you know, graph that I made earlier. But that's it. Too many kids can't accept reality, tone policing, exactly. Also talking disrespectfully. Yeah. And this is also another big issue is that they completely disrespect their fan base and they patronize their fan base by talking to people like this
Starting point is 00:40:46 and acting like that, oh, you don't know what you're talking about, et cetera. And you can see, right, these are the comments on this, do not engage in personal attacks, as tempting as it may be. Hey, that's respectable. If you close your eyes and really imagine it, it does sound like Pimon crashing out. I don't know if it does or not. But stop posting among us. Not going to lie, this might maybe switch to JP voices permanently.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't even know. It's not the first time they've crashed out and it probably won't be the last. It's closer to the last than it is the first because eventually they're going to get replaced by AI and they're going to have to go do DoorDash. That's what's going to happen. Weird that out of nowhere, this video has been AI. This video has AI. It's weird that nowhere in this video has AI been mentioned.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's all about strong arming Genshin Impact to become more union than anything else. Yeah, that's exactly it. She frequently screams about people stealing work when actors are striking, but actively won't go on strike herself because she has bills to pay. Oh, what a roach. Oh, where do these roaches come from, bro? Damn, what's going on here? Wow, what are the odds?
Starting point is 00:41:53 This is crazy. They just want more money before they get replaced. This is why Hoyle is moving away from Union voice actors. Yes. Yes. Hyacin's voice actor and Hawkeye Starro and Roshia is from voice actor in Weathering Waves, a British VA. Exactly. Like, if I was making a game, I would never hire Union voice actors.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I would never do it. It's not worth it. And even if it's slightly better, like, you can find somebody else that can do it. Yeah, why would anybody do that? I love Rosia. Mama Mia. Yeah. Everybody remembers that fucking.
Starting point is 00:42:26 that word, right? Let's be honest. And how to kill a union speed run. Exactly. And weathering VA is taking her job. Yeah, Hoyle will probably use VA for weathering waves. That's smart. And I'm amazed to this day that Hoyle can probably hear constant and consistent complaining about Ian Pymon being awful to listen to him, but they didn't bother replacing her and doubled down on keeping her around. Well, maybe, I mean, I don't think she's that bad. I mean, from like the videos I've seen,
Starting point is 00:42:51 but I have no idea. What is it with what? Yeah, bro, this is it. What is it with foreign, sorry, American voice actors and thinking they have actual sway over foreign entities? Narcissism. That's it. They actually think they can go and tell this company what to do. Yep. It's so sad to see this happen. I bet Gingham Pack 2.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I bet we get Genged Impact 2 pretty soon. If we do, I'll play it. I'll tell you that. American Insectionalism. Yeah, Dragon Ball being most prevalent. Yeah, Sag After it was this here? Is this a picture? You are encouraged to audition to non-union work.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Non-union producers get a chance to see amazing talent. They wouldn't otherwise see. When you land a job and get a union contract, you turn that into a non-union production. I don't even know about this shit, right? And it's just weird. It's really weird.

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