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I think what I'll do, you don't mind, numbers have just come out, which are rather extraordinary, and I thought I'd play a tape of one of the people who I've respected over the years from, you know, Joe Kiernan and Rick Santelli. This just came out, and we'll just play that for a second. Personal income is up eight tenths, up eight tenths of a percent. Eight tenths? Is that a lot? Is that a lot? The income, the income numbers, really, for the first four months.

I mean, the graphs are red. They're really stellar. I mean, I could go back and look at the four months of many different years. Really very strong numbers, and you're right. This administration is criticized for just about everything under the sun. I've never ever in my lifetime had glimpses into the politics of an administration. In the form of transparency like this one. That's true. Why don't we be, you know, give credit where credit is due.

I also. Income really shooting. Rick, I also thought everybody was. going to get one last order of imports that were going to be tariffed and they were loading up on things. How the hell did they already fix the trade, or not fix it, but to cut it in half, that's crazy. So there wasn't a lot of front loading of things that they needed before the tariffs hit? Yeah, I'll tell you what, it really does call them the question. Is this a live Trump reaction?

And, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens next month when we get this number. or we see some of the other numbers like current accounts, see how they fair it, because I don't know. I've been watching these numbers a long time. I don't think I've ever seen the trade deficit cut half in one month. Not bad. Wow. Come on, guys.

Gordon Scott are here, so it's great. You guys want to stand over here, you might as well. You're the ones that help produce those numbers, and it'll only get better. The tariffs are so important. And that's why we were so happy with the decision. yesterday where the tariffs continue

because without the tariffs our nation would be imperiled. We would really be imperiled. I think I can say that with great charity Scott and Howard and so we were very happy to get that decision that big decision. Is that the Constitution? And today it's about a man named

Elon and he's one of the greatest business leaders and innovators the world has ever produced. He stepped forward to put his very great talents into the service of our nation, and we appreciate it. And I just want to say that Elon has worked tirelessly helping lead the most sweeping and consequential government reform program in generations.

And you know the kinds of things that he's found and his people have found. He's brought a group of very smart people in. So what's going to happen with them? And they found things that are pretty unbelievable. Yeah, what's that going to be? I have to say that the numbers that we're talking about are substantial, but they're going to be very much more substantial with time because many of the things that we're working on right now, we're going to have to remember Elon as we find them, but the numbers could double and triple.

That would be good. Because many, many things, we don't want to go out with them until we're sure, but we've found things that are unbelievably stupid and unbelievably bad with the Department of Government Efficiency. Elon's slivered a colossal change in the old ways of doing business in Washington. Doge has installed geniuses. with an engineering mindset and unbelievably talented people and computers. I actually asked Elon one time what's their primary thing,

and they have a lot of primary things, all having to do with being smart. But he said the thing that they're really the best at is working with computers so that they can't be outsmarted by somebody that's not so honest that happens to also be good with computers, but not as good as these people. But the mindset and the senior ranks of every federal department, and it's really changed. And with Elon's guidance, they're helping to detect fraud slash waste and modernize broken and outdated systems. Everything's computer.

So you know, we're talking about various systems and changing systems. And, you know, sadly, it takes a long time to do that. You'll change, let's say, a system at IRS and computerize it properly where the job can be done in one-tenth of time. But it takes sometimes years to rebuild those systems. We've started. In many cases, we've started. I will say that this has less to do with Elon, but the air traffic control systems, we're bidding out to the best companies in the world. Those systems right now. They were horrible. The previous administration was horrible what they did. They spent billions and billions of dollars. It's like they saved you're good about money. They didn't even come close to working. They tried to hook up wire to copper and it can't be done. And they just spent billions of dollars and just, wasted money, actually made the system much worse. So we're going to get a brand new modern

system. Congress is working with us on that, and we're going to get it done as quickly as we can. But it's in the works, and once it's done, it'll be good for 30 years. But we have a system that's 48 years old and would have a modern computer hooked into a very outdated computer, and they don't hook up. Like an abacus? So after spending billions of dollars, they turned on the system. And in never any case, from local to countrywide. They never worked. More than 75,000 bureaucrats have voluntarily left their taxpayer-funded jobs. Is that right? To come out and really do the job. Countless wasteful and unnecessary contracts have been terminated. And you know that we have terminated many, many contracts. And many contracts, Elon, are right now being looked at. And it may be six months. It may be almost a year.

in some cases. We're going through procedures. We're going through courts. And we'll remember you as we announce billions of dollars of extra waste, fraud, and abuse. Just as an example, Doge canceled, $101 million for DEI contracts at the Department of Education. $101 million. And that was just a small section of the Department of Education, $59 million for illegal alien hotel rooms in New York City. and the landlord never made the kind of money that he made in the last short period of time. 59 million dollars to a hotel. That's a lot of money. In New York City, $45 million for diversity, equity, and inclusion, scholarships in Burma.

Deleted. In Burma. Does anyone know about Burma? No. $42 million for social and behavioral change in Uganda. $0.40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. I can say it's $2 billion to Stacey Abrams and her environmental movement. There was $100 in the account, and all of a sudden they found $2 billion in the account.

Surprise. And I assume that's being looked at. I don't know. I'm not sure, but I assume that's being looked at. Think of that, $2 billion. And then Lee will tell you there's another one over there for $20 billion being spent on another environmental. 20 billion, not 20 million, a lot, not 200,000, which is a lot. So think of it in her case. You have $100, and now all of a sudden she gets hit with an infusion of $2 billion just before I take office.

$20 million for Arab Sesame Street in the Middle East. Nobody knows what that's all about. Nobody's been able to find it. $8 million for making mice transgender. So they spent $8 million on making mice transgender. And those are better than many of the others. I can sit here all day and read things just like that, but we have

other things to do. So it's much, much more than just that. We're totally committed to making the doge cuts permanent and stopping much more of the waste and the months of come. We want to get our great big, beautiful bill finished and done after that. We're going to be, we put some of this into

the bill, but most of it's going to come later. We're going to have it. coderized by Congress, affirmed by Congress. In some cases, we'll make cuts, in some cases, we'll just use it in a different layer to save the money, but it's hundreds of billions of dollars. Doge has also fully modernized the federal retirement process and continues to work very hard on the IRS modernization,

but we're taking that over with Doge. Many of the Doge people, Elon, are staying behind too, so they're not leaving. And Elon's really not leaving. He's going to be back and forth, I think. I have a feeling. It's his baby, and I think he's going to be doing a lot of things. But Elon's service to America has been without comparison in modern history.

He's already running one of the most innovative car companies in the world. Does Elon know that? Compare them with some of the old factories we have, and it's a big difference. And the most successful space company, and I guess in history you would have to say in the largest speech platform on the Internet, etc. Yet, Elon willingly, with all of the success, he willingly accepted the outrageous abuse and slander and lies and attacks because he does love our country. I know that very much. He loves our country. He comes for another country, country that's going through trials and tribulations, I would say. But he's all about the USA and Americans. Oh, I'm a great

debt of gratitude. So I just want to thank Elon for. for his time as special government employee. Can you imagine? Come back and audit the Pentagon. But it's a special government employee and for coming and helping us. And he really has changed the mindset of a lot of people. A lot of people thought, you know, maybe we'll cut 1% or 2% or 3%. Then they said, well, we can cut a lot more than that. And we're going to do it very surgically.

We're going to continue on the march. We're making America great again when I was in Saudi Arabia. We were in, as you know, three really great countries. predominantly, the three. Qatar was great. UAE was great. Saudi Arabia, incredible. What, like such an incredible experience to be in those three countries.

But the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, and I must tell you, the leaders, the great leaders of the other two that we just mentioned, they all said the same thing that the United States is the hottest country right now. in the world. And six months ago, we thought it was dead. It was like a dead country. And it would have been a dead country. We didn't have the right result on November 5th. It would have been a horrible, horrible situation was going on with the borders, with transgender for everyone. Jesus. Men playing in women's sports and so much more. But they were saying the hottest country anywhere in the world. And then I played that little clip because that was one person. Everybody is transgender. But two or two people, because Joe was in that.

one, too, Joe's a good man. But that was one group of people saying something about the success of what we've done over the last four months. They cannot believe it. In the one case, they said they've never seen anything like it as long as they've been doing what they've been doing. They've been doing it for a long time. They're going to make your grandpa trans. So I want to thank Elon for helping. And again, you know, the United States right now is the hottest country anywhere in the world.

There's no country is hot. And we're doing really well. where we came, when I left, we had no wars, we had no problems, we defeated ISIS, we rebuilt our military, and we had no inflation. And when I came back, we had a lot of inflation. We had wars all over the place. We had the embarrassment in Afghanistan where we gave up billions and billions of dollars of military equipment, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, I believe, I believe that strongly. We have Russia with Ukraine. We had the Italian. We had the attack in Israel in October, the horrible attack, October 7th, horrible, horrible attack.

Nobody's ever seen anything like it. And now we have something where we're really healing a lot of that. We stopped India and Pakistan from fighting. I believe that could have turned out into a nuclear disaster. And I want to thank the leaders of India, the leaders of Pakistan. Oh, wow. And I want to thank my people also. talk trade. And we said, we can't trade with people that are shooting at each other and

potentially using nuclear weapons. And they're great leaders in those countries. And they understood and they agreed. Well, that's good. And that all stopped. And we're stopping others from fighting also because ultimately we can fight better than anybody. We have the greatest military in the world. We have the greatest leaders in the world. We put one of them in charge of the joint Chiefs of Staff, as you know, General Raisin-Kain. And we wiped out ISIS, completely wiped out ISIS in three weeks. They said it would take five years, and we did it in three weeks. It's pretty fast. And that's the way it is, but we don't want to have to use our military. We want to be peace through strength when we can. And that's the way we're going to have it. So I just want to

thank Elon and all of his people, most of those people are staying, almost all of them are staying, and they're going to be with us. And you're going to see the results coming long into the future, Even a year and two years later, you're going to see a lot of the results, and those hundreds of billions of dollars are going to be adding up, and they're going to continue to add. That's good. It's really interesting to see what the final number is going to be. But again, Elon gave an incredible service.

Nobody like him. And he had to go through the slings and the arrows. Big balls staying? Which is a shame because he's an incredible paycheck. I would assume so. The good news is that 90% of the country knows that, and they appreciate it and they really appreciate what he did. And I gave him a little special something we have here.

Oh, shit. A very special that I give to very special people. I have given it to some, but they go to very special people. And I thought I'd give it to Elon as a presentation from our country. Thank you, Elon. Take care of you. Wow. It's a very simple.

The luck and this is amazing. Well, let me say perhaps a few words, that this is not the end of Doge, but really the beginning. My time as a special government employee necessarily had to end. It was a limited time thing. It's 134 days, I believe, which ends in a few days. So that comes with a time limit. Yeah, sure. But the Doge team will only grow stronger over time.

The Doge influence will only grow stronger. It's like it to sort of bosom of Buddhism. It's like a way of life. So it's permeating throughout the government. And I'm confident that over time we'll see a trillion dollars of savings and a reduction in a trillion dollars of waste and forward reduction. The calculations of the Doge team thus far in terms of an FY25 to FY26 Delta are over 160 billion and that's climbing. We expect that number will probably go over 200 billion soon. Wow.

So I think the Doge team is doing an incredible job. They're going to continue doing an incredible job. And I'll be, and I'll continue to be visiting here and be a friend and advisor to the president. And I look forward to, you know, times being back in this amazing room. By the way, isn't this incredible? Look at this incredible. I mean, it's stunning, I think. The way that the Oval Office, the President has just completely redone the Oval Office.

It's beautiful. Well, they brought out the Declaration Independence, right? Pretty nice. Yeah. It's been for a long time. It was plastered. Nobody ever really saw it. They didn't know the Eagle was up there.

We highlighted it's a, essentially it's a landmark, a great landmark, and that's 24-carat gold. Everybody loved it, and now they all see it when they come in. It's been good. The Oval Office has, you know, finally has the majesty that it deserves thanks to the President. So I look forward to continuing to be a friend and advisor to the President, continuing to support the Doge team, and we are relentlessly pursuing a trillion dollars in waste and forward reductions, which will benefit the American taxpayer. So that's it, really.

Thank you, Mr. President. That's it. All right. Great. The President mentioned that you had to deal with all the slings and arrows during your time at Doge. Some of the people, you know, some of the media organizations in this room were the slingers. Oh. There is a New York Times report today that accuses you a blurring line between.

It's the New York Times. Is that the same publication that got to Pulitzer Prize for false reporting on the right? Is it the same organization? I think it is. I think it is. Bro, last day on the job energy. The judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russia Gate votes.

Last day on the job energy, yeah. They would have to give back that Pulitzer Prize. That New York Times, let's move on. Okay. Next question. President Trump, by the AIDS, we used to work here, are in talks with Republicans and Congress go and testify about what they did or didn't do to possibly conceal President Biden's decline.

Do you think that Dr. Jill Biden should also have to come in and testify about what she did or didn't do? I think so, yeah. Well, I hate the concept of it. It's the wife of a man who was going through a lot of problems and everybody that dealt with him understood that. And I guess it came out during the debate loud and clear. That was a big.

That was the biggest signal of all. They have to do what's right. The country was a lot of dishonesty in the election, as you know, of 2020. That's been now caught. People understand it. It was a rigged election. Oh, right. Remember that?

When you go further out, when you see the auto pen, I mean, I think the auto pen is going to become one of the great scandals of all time because you have somebody operating it or a number of people operating. Because I knew Joe Biden. Joe Biden wasn't in favor of opening up borders, letting 12. 21 million people into this from prisons and mental institutions and gang members. He wasn't into that at all. And, you know, who side the, who side these orders?

Is Trump being sympathetic to Sleepy Joe now? He signed that set our country so far back. That was, are we flipping the script? With the auto pen, how would it work? Like, we're in the old office right now. Oh, no.

There was a group of rogue staffers that work for you who wanted to advance a bill or an executive order without your knowledge. How could they do it? Well, it's very hard because I'd read your newspapers or your media the next day, and I'd say, well, I didn't approve that, and I would find it. I mean, they wouldn't get away with it for long because I'd say, I never signed that. Who to hell signed that? Yeah.

Autopens, to me, are used to sign letters to people because we get, I think they said, 20,000 letters a week, and you like to be able, when somebody takes the time to write a letter, it's nice to sort of write back. and autopens are meant for that. Autopens are not meant to sign major proclamations or tax cuts or borders, anything having to do with the border, which is so important. And if it happened on my watch, I would be able to see it because the next day or sooner I'd be reading about something that I knew nothing about

and who the hell signed this. So I almost never used the autopen. In fact, yesterday I was signing about 81, I think it was 81 proclamations and statements to people that I think should be signed by us. I think when you write letters to foreign dignitaries or presidents or prime ministers, you should be signing those letters, not done with auto pens.

I understand he signed almost everything with an auto pen. It's a very dangerous thing. It really means you're not president. Whoever operated the auto pen, and we think we know who that is. Who is it? And it was actually more than one person. Oh.

But that's not what. The presidency is all about it. I hardly used to get up. Mr. President, on the Senate. When we escaped the tariffs on China, you said that they violated the agreement with the U.S. Well, they did.

They were, they violated a big part of the agreement we've made. You know, if you read that all statement, I was very nice to say that I happened because they were in trouble with the What? What? What? But I'm sure that I'll speak to President Xi and hopefully we'll work that out.

It's a violation of the agreement. Yeah. Mr. President, can you give us an update to the latest ceasefire agreement that Israel has agreed to, but Hamas is still considering? Well, they're very close to an agreement on Gaza, and we'll let you know about it during the day or maybe tomorrow, and we have a chance of that. I think we have a chance of making a deal with Iran, so they don't want to be blown up. They would rather make a deal, and I think that could happen in the not too distant future. That would be a great thing. If we could have a deal without bombs being dropped all over the Middle East, I think.

That would be a very good thing. They can't have a big good way. We want them to be safe. We want them to have a very, very successful nation. Let it be a great nation. But we can't have that. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple.

And I think we're fairly close to a deal with Iran. Yes. You said just now that you look forward to being a friend and advisor to the president. So do you expect to continue advising the president and Doge informally? Or are you going to sort of shift your focus entirely to your companies?

It depends. Well, I expect to continue to provide advice whenever the president would like. I hope so. It obviously depends. Yeah, I expect to remain a friend and an advisor. And certainly, if there's anything the president wants me to do, I'm at the president's service.

Mr. Rasmuch, on those, you said that there was a trillion dollar promise for cuts from you. Yes, I think we do expect over time to achieve a trillion dollars. But what have you found in your time here was the biggest roadblocked getting those cuts? Was it the cabinet or was it Congress or something? It's obviously Congress, right? It's mostly just a lot of hard work.

It's really not any one personal Congress. The judges? Yeah, but that went back and forth. Millions of line items and saying just each one of them makes sense or does not make sense. Obviously at times when you cut expenses, those who were receiving the money, whether they receive whether they were receiving that money legitimately or not they do complain and you're not going to hear someone confessing that they received money inappropriately never they're going to always say that they received money appropriately for for an important cause that's what you'd expect but so so we just got the scammers aren't going to say they're scamming just a lot of work going through of course not

expenses of the federal government and just really asking questions you on as a black guy what's this money for is are you sure it's actually being used well. I don't know about that. Many times we can't even find anyone who defends it. So for a lot of the expenses, there's the rest actually no defender at all. You got the fight yesterday? And then we have to just work through the process of stopping the stopping the spending

where there's literally no defender. Nobody even knows why the money is being spent. It's truly absurd. Damn, Brut's crazy. There are millions of software licenses with zero people using them. Zero. What?

Exactly. Exactly. This is the quizzical expression. You're like, surely if there's millions of software licenses, someone should be using them. No. And then we've got to go through the process of saying, okay, look, if no one's using the software, we need to terminate this software license agreement. That's everywhere in the government, by the way. Mr. Moss, what do you think would be easier, colonizing Mars or making the government a vision?

It's a tough call. But I think colonizing was and making life multi-planetary is harder. And as I said, we do expect to achieve over time the $20,000 of savings. We can't do it in like a few months. But if you say by the, I think the official... Macron's husband hit Elon in the face. Choose to extend is the middle of next year. Say by the middle of next year, with the support of the president and Congress,

could we achieve $20 million of savings? I think so. We're on track to do so. Do you have speech that Congress's... Go ahead. Mr. President, if you had mentioned, Doge had become a whipping boy and as the president A whipping boy?

Was it worth it for you? People still use that? Yes. What we thought was happening was that if there were any cuts anywhere, then people would assume that was done by Doge. And so we became like essentially the Doge bogeyman

where if any cut anywhere would be ascribed to Doge. you know a friend of mine's uh daughter who's at law school georgetown thought that uh doge had cut the senate uh you know the uh internships for the legal internships for the senate and we have nothing to do with that so if they have been cut was not to do with us just as an example so it's really cool trump lets him speak knowing he's got the tism it just became a bit ridiculous where um anything any cut anywhere was somehow doge um and including things that made no sense That's the worst thing.

That's the last day. Who cares? So, there are many things that occur in the government because it's the, it's the banal evil of bureaucracy. It's sort of the, frankly, largely uncaring nature of bureaucracy. It's as the great Milton Friedman said, money is spent most poorly when it is someone else's money being spent on people you don't know. Right.

And that's how federal spending is. And then you can't really even blame the individuals because the way the government works is complaint minimization. So when you do try to, when someone within the government tries to stop that money being spent, it's usually someone that complains. And then their manager will say it's not worth the trouble. What? Just pay it anyway. That happens over and over again.

So was it working. I think it was an important thing. I think it was a necessary thing. And I think it will have a good effect in the future. Thank you, President Trump. This week there was a video on board of plane that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband, Emmanuel Macron.

Do you have any world leader-to-world leader marital and life? Oh, my God. Make sure the door remains closed. That was that good. No, I spoke to him, and he's fine. They're fine. They're two really good people.

I know him very well. door and I don't know what that was all about but I know him very well and I don't know what that oh no I got a little signer here was there a new plan to avoid being swept in every battle around the state again by spending $20 million to study how you speak to American men they spent they spent 2.8 billion we spent 1.5 we spent much less we spent about half of what they spent. And at the end, they were $28 million short. They had to be, they spent $2.8 billion. That's a lot, but they couldn't get $28 million at the end. And now they want to spend money to learn how to talk. That's fake. You don't want to be fake. You shouldn't have to hire

consultants to say what America needs. Because they should be, the consultant should be running the deal, not them. But I read that they want to spend a lot of money in each state. So we want all seven swing states, seven out of seven. We want a lot more than that. We won the popular, but we want everything. And they want to spend money to find out what they did wrong. And I mean, I can tell you what they did wrong. I can tell you every one of their programs when they say men playing in women sports. I would say that's not a winner. When they say transgender for everybody, I think that's not a winner. When they say open borders, so the entire world population of women was to pour into our country, I don't think that's a winner. I don't think that's a winner.

I mean, I can, I just gave them that for free, but I don't know if they'll change their ways. I see them all the time. Yeah, he's right. That I know in Congress, Democrats, they're trying to justify some of the things I just say. You can't justify them. They're, you know, I always hear the 80, 20 issues. I say they're not 80, 20. They're 973.

They might be 99 to 1. They're not 80, 20. They wish they were 80, 20. And they're wasting a lot of money if they're going to continue with that nonsense. Mr. President, you're right about that. Back in the apprentice, you mentioned once in 2012 that Diddy was a good friend of years. Back then, he has since found himself in some very serious legal trouble.

Would you ever consider pardoning him? Well, nobody's asked. You had to be the one to ask, Peter, but nobody's asked, but I know people are thinking about it. I know they're thinking about it. I think people have been very close to asking. First of all, I'd look at what's happening. and I haven't been watching it too closely, although it's certainly getting a lot of coverage.

I haven't seen him. I haven't spoken to him in years. He used to really like me a lot, but I think when I ran for politics, he sort of that relationship busted up from what I read. I don't know. He didn't tell me that, but I'd read some little bit nasty statements in the paper all of a sudden. You know, it's different. You become a much different person when you run for politics and you do what's right. I could do other things, and I'm sure he'd like me, and I'm sure other people would like me,

but it wouldn't be as good for our country. As we said, our country's doing really well because of what we're doing. Yeah, he's staying in jail. It's not a popularity contest. So, I don't know. I would certainly look at the facts. If I think somebody was mistreated, whether they like me or don't like me, it wouldn't have any impact. Mr. President, the big beautiful bill.

Would you like to see the Senate build in some support for your tariffs? I mean, that's fair to say? I have great support on the tariffs. I can't wait for people to misconstrue that into him saying he could stay lifted because that would have taken away presidential power. It would have taken away everything that was granted by the founders. It would have been a terrible thing. And it would have, most importantly, it would have left us vulnerable. We have a lot of countries that use tariffs on us and use them viciously, actually, viciously.

And if we didn't have the power to use tariffs on them and instantly, not when you go back to Congress and try and get hundreds of people to agree on something that would take months to get just one simple proclamation. If we didn't have the power to counteract their powers, you wouldn't have a country left. We have to act fast. I wish there was a Canadian as in gold, as they say. And that was a really great moment, I think, yesterday when that state was lifted. If you know what I mean. Now we'll go to court and, you know, Trump's been talking about it.

Because if we don't have the power to do what they're doing to us, We are going to be a great nation no longer. Elon Musk was once idolized by folks in the left in this country before joining our administration. Now he's considered a hero by conservatives. Why do you think this man, what he's done in America? Because he changed what he was doing. Well, his life has been amazing. I look at so many different things.

I look at that rocket being guided back into position. I've never seen that before. I thought it was a space movie. I thought it was a movie. you look at what he's done in terms of communication. It's been unbelievable. So many different, even tunnels going underground, not having to go through all the processes. The ones in New York?

He's got a company that does that. He's got so many different companies. Starlink, as an example. He saved a lot of lives, probably hundreds of lives in North Carolina. I don't even know if you remember, but I called you. They needed Starlink in North Carolina. And I didn't know what the hell Starlink was. I said, what is it?

Who owns it? He said, do you know Elon Musk? I said, you happen to know the gentleman. This was before his government stay. And they said, we really need it because North Carolina was literally became an island. There was people had no communication. They had no access or anything. And they were dying.

And I called up Elon and you can't get it because it's so successful. It's very hard to get. We're not a lot to talk about those tunnels. And he had so much of it brought up to there. And they told me it was unbelievable, it saved a lot of lives. So, you know, he's just done a lot of things. He, I don't think, frankly, I don't think he gets tried in New York.

And he's a very good person, too. Mr. Martin. If he wasn't a good person, if he wasn't it, but he did the same things, you know, I'd probably maybe speak differently. He happens to be a really good person. Nobody knows. Who loves the country. Mr.

Mr. Ross, one, just been, well, Bill, you had indicated this week that there were some things you didn't like about what had passed in the House. Yeah. What changes do you want to see the Senate make? And you had also indicated there were things you didn't like. about the bill? What would you be suggesting you push senators to change in their version? Well, I'll tell you, I'll go first. It's an unbelievable bill. It cuts your deficits. It cuts, you know, it's a huge cutting. But there's things I'd like to see maybe cut a little more. I'd like to

see a bigger cut in taxes. It's going to be the largest tax decrease or cut in the history of our country. I'd like to see it get down to an even lower number. I was shooting for a slightly lower number. I would have liked to have done that. But with all of that being said, when you look at the tax cut and the fact that the original tax cut, which made us so successful,

we had the most successful four years in the history of our country, the economy, and this is going to be even better. And you see that by the reports that came out just yesterday or tonight. I guess they were released this morning at 8 o'clock. Cutting Medicaid and Snap is going to really help in our case. You see the kind of numbers where somebody that's a pro is like,

whoa. I haven't seen numbers like this since I been doing this. You know, these are human emotions of professionals that have never seen numbers like, and we've just started. The bill is a great bill. It's going to be jiggered around a little bit. It's going to be negotiated with the Senate, with the House. But the end result is it extends the Trump tax cuts. If it doesn't get approved, you'll have a 68% tax increase. You're going to go up 68%. That's a number that nobody's ever heard of before. You'll have a massive tax increase. If it does get approved, you'll have a large tax cut, the largest we've ever had. Yeah, we'll see about that.

We've got the past tax cuts that we've got you, the Trump tax. They call them the Trump tax cuts. It's an amazing bill. It does amazing things. With all of that, it's going to be adjusted a little bit over the next coming weeks, and I think it's going to be past. Republicans want to pass it. With all of the great things it does, including an extension of debt, the extension, we have to extend the debt. If we don't extend debt, we're in default. Now, the Democrats might like our country to be in default, but in 250 years we've never been in default. That was handed to them by a very well-meaning man that gave it to them because he thought it was the right thing to do. It could have been their problem before the election, but this man

thought it was the right thing to do, and he was well-meaning. I don't hold anything against him for that. But that was put our plate when it should have been on the Democrats. September 28th, a famous date. It should have been taken care of by the Democrats. Who does it talk about? This person, Biden. Gave it to us.

So that in June, that comes to. Well, we have to take care of that because if we don't take care of it, we have a country in default. And we don't ever want to have a country in default. You know, I'll tell you, a certain senator Elizabeth Warren said that

she would never ever allow a default on our debt she would never let it happen and she would like to get rid of the debt ceiling what's called the debt extension because we really need an extension that she'd like to see that got rid of and there are many people that agree

many Democrats agree with that but we gave that through I don't want to say an era. He did it well, meaning they gave that to us. It was a Democrat problem just before the election. Would have had a huge impact on the election. And to our benefit, we won anyway, but to our benefit,

but felt that really for the good of the country, we should extend that. But Elizabeth Warren and various other people would like to see that her whole career, she wanted to see it terminated, gotten rid of not being voted on every year. five years or ten years. And the reason was because it's so catastrophic for our country.

And I always agreed with her. That was one thing I agreed with her on. Now, I haven't spoken to her, but I would say that if you asked that question now, she'd say, no, no, it's their problem. But it's a very unfortunate situation. It's a very unfair situation. And she happened to be right on that. It should be gotten rid of, or it should simply be extended.

But that's one of the things that gets taken care of in this bill. that automatically gets extended for a four-year period, and it should be. But I agree with Elizabeth Warren on that. I think you should get rid of it. It's too catastrophic. Yeah, please, go. Do you want to feed the money for the bills? To students?

Well, we want to have great students here. We just don't want students that are causing trouble. We want to have students. I want to have foreign students. I think Harvard, you know, it's close to 31%. That's a lot. Our country's given five. $5 billion plus to Harvard over a short period of time.

Why? Nobody knew that. We found that out. I wouldn't say that was a Doge thing, but we found that out over a period of time. That was sort of a Trump thing. We ended up in litigation for other reasons because they're very much more than $5 billion. And in finding out and in going through the books, we found out that the country gave them

$5 million plus, much more than that, actually. And we're having it out with them, and let's see what happens. Mostly research grants, maybe. Well, it's a very sad case. It's a case we win. We can't lose that case because we have the right to make grants. We're not going to make any grants like that. Yeah, sure.

But I don't think Harvard's been acting very nicely. I think Columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem. They've acted very well. And there are other institutions too. They're acting. Yeah, they kicked out a bunch of people. A big shot. And all the happens is every three days, we find another $100 million that was

given. Last two days ago, we found $200 million more. The money's given to them like gravy. I'd like to see the money go to trade schools, where people learn how to fix motors and engines, where people learn how to build rocket ships, because, you know, somebody has to build those rocket chips. And I'd like to see trade school set up, because you could take $5 billion plus hundreds of millions more, which is what's spent. And you could have the greatest trade school system anywhere in the world. That's probably a better idea, honestly. What's what we need to build his rockets and robots and things that he's doing and to build lots of other things. Training plumbers and rocket makers is probably better than gender studies.

I would say so. In some cases, they weren't good students, but they could fix the engine of a car better than anybody I've ever seen. They could take it apart in blindfold, and they had an ability of that. And they did very well. They made a lot of money. It's a very skilled job. It's great. But I'd like to see a lot of money going into trade schools.

I've always felt that. And we probably found our pot of gold. That's what's been. I hope he actually does not. At places like Harvard. And the money's been wasted. Yeah, please. I wanted to ask quickly, Mr. Mawson, is your eye okay?

What happened to you were to drive? It was a loose there. Well, it wasn't, I wasn't anywhere near France. So, but, but, I didn't know. I didn't know this is the first lady of praise. I didn't know. So, you know, I just supposed to run with Lalex,

and I said, go ahead, punch me in the face. and he did. Turns out even a five-year-old punching you in the face actually. That was exited? Wait, so he actually did get punched in the face. But I didn't really feel much at the time and then it just screws it up.

But I just horse him around with the kid. I didn't know. He had this kid punch him in the face. I know that he tried to stay pretty neutral because. Oh, Jesus. By the way, X going to give it to you? Not my war. I just want to solve the problem for people.

This was not a war that was going to happen if I were present. Right, and so not your war, but as you tried to fix it, and as you surveyed this hellscape of the Ukrainian front lines. It's horrible. And you guys, you and your team deal with a very stubborn Vladimir Putin. And Zelensky. But do you look at this company? Very stubborn Zelensky too.

Trying differently now. Like, do you look at this and see Putin as the good guy or the bad guy? So I've known him very well. And I went through a lot of things with him because, Russia was, you know, the Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia hoax turned out to be a total hoax. New York Times, they got a Pulitzer they have to give back to Pulitzer Prize.

That's my lawsuit. And they're doing very poorly in that lawsuit. Oh, that's what you always talking about. They wrote stories about how it was true and it was false. You don't have the cards. Washington Post also. That was a legendary crash up. I have gotten to see things and I was very surprised at

rockets being shot into cities. like Kiev during a negotiation that I felt was maybe very close to ending. We were going to solve a problem, and then all of a sudden rockets got shot into a couple of cities, and people died. I saw things that I was surprised at, and I don't like being surprised. So I'm very disappointed in that way.

With that being said, I'd like to see it end. 5,000 people, I think in numbers even more than that, But 5,000 people a week are being killed, mostly soldiers, but also people that live in little cities and towns throughout Ukraine. And I'd like to see that stop. And I asked Carolina this yesterday, but I love how he just asked all the questions. So many of the things you're trying to do are held up. Like this guy just asks everything. If the courts are going to have so much influence over U.S. policy, you wish you would have just become a judge.

Yeah. Yeah, well, look, you're going to. It wasn't meant to be that way. That's why you just ask stupid, funny questions. Certain powers and you have three groups, and they all had supposed to be equal, pretty equal powers. But you can't have a judge in Boston running foreign policy and places all over the country because he's got a liberal bent or he's a radical left person.

That's what the executive branch is for. You have checks and balances. But we had millions of people pour into our country. many, many criminals poured into our country, murderers, murderers, mental institutions from all over the world being emptied out into our country. And if we don't get them out and get them out and we send our people to their mental institutions? Can we do that? That anybody would allow this to happen to our country. Could we do? Because that would really...

We took over inflation. We took over some wars. We took over a lot of problems that didn't exist when I was president. It's like a citizen exchange program. Other than that, we had no wars. Putin was never going to hit Ukraine. Israel would have never been attacked. That attack, as you know, Iran had no money.

Did you have money for Amos. Yeah, you get two Karin, we get one MS-13 member. No money whatsoever. That wasn't going to happen. All of these things that happened weren't going to happen. You wouldn't have had inflation. So it's very sad when I came back, but the thing that is the hardest is that they allowed 21 million people into our country. and many of those people are stone cold criminals.

They moved their criminal population into the United States. And of all the things that, you know, are bad, I solved inflation, I believe, already. I got the fuel prices down, the fuel prices came down. That's one of the reasons. I haven't had to buy gas recently. How much is gas where you guys are at if you're in the U.S.? Oil and gas?

Yeah, how much is it? And you had tremendous inflation. The greatest inflation probably, in the history of our country under Biden. So, just by like two, like, high twos? No, the economy is terrible for the people, because they couldn't afford the energy. And the energy brought everything out of.

So the energy is the big deal. But with all of that, we solved that already. In four months, we solved it. $1.99 and $1.98 decently. First time people have seen that a long time since my term. But the hardest thing to solve is, $1.98, I don't see that. Millions of people pouring into our country,

many of whom are criminals. Because remember, these countries are smart. Their leaders are very street smart. They're sending the people that they don't want. They don't want the people that are there, that are law-abiding, that are productive, that are working hard. They want people that are in jail. Just sending all the retards over.

We have them. They allow them to come in. And I always look to the other side, like, why would somebody do something? You know, in business, I try and study, why would they want to do this? Why would they want to do this? Yeah, you've got to find out the incentives. What would an administration, what were they thinking when they allowed millions of people from prisons all over the world, not just from South America, Venezuela, all over the world from the Congo in Africa, hundreds of people, thousands of people from the Congo, rough, rough prisoners, from Asia, from Europe, rough parts of Europe, why would they allow them to come into our country?

When he says rough parts, he's talking about Sweden and London. It's one thing I can't figure out. And I don't believe it was Joe Biden. I really don't. I mean, he's been sort of a moderate person over his lifetime, not a smart person, but a somewhat vicious person, I will say. If you feel sorry for him, don't feel so sorry because he's vicious. What he did with his political opponent and all of the people that he heard,

He heard a lot of people by I don't feel sorry for him. But he wasn't a person that would allow murderers to come into our country. He wasn't a person that was in favor of transgender for anybody that wanted it. Trump is right, actually. He is.

So I just don't understand why. Biden was one of the good all boys. How a thing like this could have been allowed to happen. Very sad. He's very sad. He's very sad for our country. If I can add something to that, which is, I think the fundamental moral flow of the left is empathy for the criminals and not empathy for the victims. Empathy for the criminals.

He's been watching the streams. Oh, my God. There's been way too much of that. That needs to stop. Bro. To the president's point, there's been immense judicial overreach that is unconstitutional. That was never intended. All right.

And it's undermining the people's faith in the legal system. It needs to stop. It's gone too far. And just today, we had, just a couple of hours ago, we had a great decision from the Supreme Court, thank goodness, that was very important. We had two important decisions yesterday on the tariffs, because again, we have to be able to fight a fair fight with other countries. Howard, you'd you say we have to be able to use tariffs to fight people that use tariffs on us. I mean, if we didn't have that power of tariffs, we would economically but destroy it as a country because they will destroy us. Other countries will destroy us with unchecked tariffs.

We can check them when we have the years. They tried to take that power away from us. And if you take that power away, we're not going to have a country. We won't have an economically viable country. Trump agreed with Elon. That means Trump agreed with you by proxy. It's very important on immigration that we've been able to get people out. I was right.

to go through a long court case. Naturally. It was up to some of these judges. Every single one of these millions of people, millions of people, criminals, prisoners that were let go from jails because they saved a fortune when they did. They brought them into the United States. You know what they're saving? The money they're saving?

But some of murderers, it's very important that we're able to get those people out of here fast, bring them back to their country where they belong. And those countries take them because if they don't take them, They have to go through the wrath of the United States. And they take it. But we have judges that don't want that to happen. And it would be, it's a terrible thing. That's going through the court system right now, that whole situation.

But when ICE and with Border Patrol, they've done an incredible job. When they do this incredible job, and they capture 100 killers and drug dealers. The bad guys. We can't keep them for years here. As we go through trials, we have to get them out rapidly, and we know who they are. We know who they are. Just go get them. And we're very careful about who they are, but we have to get them out rapidly.

Or, again, we're not going to have a country. Maybe one or two more. Go ahead, please. Well, he's going to end up building his whole car here. I mean, I thought he built his whole car. Pretty much he does. He's got incredible factories. Like I looked at one in Texas, it's unbelievable.

Oh. No way all of the manufacturers will build their parts here too I mean I I used to bother me they make a part in Canada part in Mexico Someone said as one convinced Trump take over Brazil and nobody knew what the hell was happening Brazil's a nice place You build a car make it in America and I gave them a little leeway It's a great place you know gave them some leeway but over the next year they've got to have the whole thing built in America That's what we want

We want America to buy American built cars Thank you very much. Thank you, Chris. Thank you guys. The fuck out. The fuck out. The fuck out of here. Are you considering?

Get the fuck out. Yeah, there you go. Shut up. All right, there we go. And, uh, roach out. Get these votes out of here. It's crazy how the, the yellow tie guy is. This guy just gets to ask every single question.

There's like 10 reporters or 20 reporters in the room. And like there's 30 questions. he gets 25 of them. Because he just, and the reason why, he just asked dumb fucking questions. And the thing is, bro, like the Elon Musk, like the, what was it, the black eye? He's like, well, I haven't been to France. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, bro.

Like, this is, wow. What a, we got, we, things are, things are very interesting now. I'll just say that, right? It's a very interesting time that we live in. And that was fucking funny, man. And, uh, yeah, content's questions. Yeah, exactly, right? He bought the season pass.

Yeah, he has the deluxe battle pass for, uh, being able to go into the Oval Office. And, uh, yeah, there it is. And, uh, I'm sure my crown will be okay with that. Honestly, you know what? I bet he's happy about it. Like, he's probably a bit embarrassed, but he's like, yeah, see? I fucking told you you need to cut this shit out. See?

I knew this was going to happen. and this is exactly what I said. Yeah, I was right. That's what it was. Yeah, got mentioned. Yeah, he probably feels fucking vindicated about it. Absolutely. And yeah, anyway, let's see if I could find a few more of these. So that was interesting.

It's Elon's last day until he comes back next week. And then just indefinitely, because that's just obviously, it seems like the way Trump does things. And yeah, it's his last day before he stops being his last day. That's about it, right? He gets asked them

questions because he's on one that's tough questions right to the last administration well maybe right and uh do with the yellow is don't uh don't uh don't strip club link is don't trump strip club ling man is this you know what i could see it yeah i could see that absolutely