Au Parloir - De la prison au marathon: l’histoire de Marco Poulin (#164)

Episode Date: October 25, 2026

⚠️ Abonne-toi sur PATREON: WWW.PATREON.COM/AUPARLOIR Dans cet épisode, je reçois Marco Poulin. Après un passé marqué par la violence, la consommation, l'itinérance et près de dix ans passés derrière les barreaux, sa vie semblait condamnée aux mêmes cercles vicieux. Pourtant, c'est à travers une profonde quête de rédemption et la découverte de la course à pied qu'il a réussi à accomplir l'impossible : transformer ses souffrances pour représenter le Canada lors d'ultramarathons et se consacrer aujourd'hui à l'intervention auprès des plus démunis. Malgré les épreuves et les traumatismes qui auraient pu le briser, Marco a choisi de se relever et de redonner au suivant. Son histoire est un témoignage bouleversant de résilience, de courage et de reconstruction. ☠️ Suivez-nous pour ne rien manquer : Tik tok : https://www.tiktok.com/@cedricbergeronparloir Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour ⚠️ Pour collaboration : [e-mail] Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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Thank you. Thank you. A guy who 180, we can say that. What I like of my invite, it's

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there's a with you, as you're coming with you, you know, where the type of family, and we're

part of to do, and we're until today. All right. All right. All right.

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way, we'll have the chance to elaborate on the subject. We're there. A podcast, the time, he is illimited.

We're going to go to the river south. It's originate of Longueye so. So, so,

on a new familyal, I'm a male with a female. I have a friend who has a

friend who is a My parents, at the time, my mom could not have an father had been adopted more young. Since six years, she's all the past,

she was coming to sign, and had a jimaud. I'm the baby. I've been gallant. I've left my son. It's a little

so. At a new family, it's the type of family, family classic, ordinary? Yeah,

it's maybe , in the fact, on the level financial, but in the phone, my father

was in the domain automobile and the construction of the transport. Okay. They've been married 28 years and together.

My father was a working working who's a person who's someone who had been a family

so he had not known his parents. He had not been adopted but he had been to get

at a moment at some of all and he been to be so

so so that's someone who he's someone that's some of

some of some of some of some of it's a a little so. But you're to transmit

not be his bra, let's say the perseverance. It's sure he's that's been difficult

in our relationship. Today he is deced. My mother's a batante also,

it's a bit, it's my mentor in the fact of 93 and she had always

there's for me to be to visit to a carceral, therapy, and it's

something that's someone who's a great who's that, that's the moment

he's a while you're in quite a car, it's a cross a hush but it's in this moment determined to

reprimed to get to get in 183 years, the golf, the bowling, she'll show the condition

auto. In the my father, he was a very very very, so I'm probably

know, I've suffered a lot of some absence. Okay. I'm present at the

house, there had a problem of alcohol also. In the there my perceptions also in fact,

you know, on persoed things, we're doing things, but in my perceptions,

well, I'm in my life, I've been very to be very research for the love, a part of

my life in the last year, it's something that's something that I've really to have to have

to do, the water, you're good, you're able, you're able, when I when I was, I wanted to

my son, I'm sure, that's sure that I'm doing, for you're to attire the attention, yeah,

in the fact, in the sportive. I remember that my dream of the childhoods had to become a journalist sportive. I've applied

the lecture with the journal in the time my idols, the George Bouchon, gaymond. It's like I'm 601

so that's like now the journals, so yeah, so I've learned, and I've got and I'm, so I've got

the quality of leader. I'm sure noming the qualities because often we're on course of we're not

our force and those forces and these force that I've discovered more later in my life.

It's a bit a message also for the people who will be going to be the podcast. We have

all the quality of that we're not quite not quite exploited in our life. So,

I'm really a leader. But never too too. It's that's that you're

a preve we can have some before we get to because we're at

because of because when we have something when we usually when when we usually

it's anched in you, there's there's a key, there's due in the

there's you're a their knee, and there are who are made that for the idea, and there are who are not made for that, you know, I'm

going to tell you, my father, you know, my person, you know, a problem of alcohol, so, when he's not present, he's not

present because he's a man occupied, but when he is present, is he present, or the bottle is a man who is a man who

is a man who become more aggressive, more violent on the alcohol? Yeah, well, I mean, also,

is that my friend also, he, you know, I, you know, I'm not, there's not a rapport there, there, you know,

I have a great relation with him. But, I mean, what I've sensed also, is that when my mother had had used the jimaux, I, and my son, I felt like I'm in a bit, he had already his guy, and my father,

well, it's someone who's very manual, there was a garage of debasselage, a garage of debasselage, a carmine, so my friend had been a lot of

in his life, but he had probably probably wanted to know other other things. So, I've had been a lot of chance of

justice face of that, the fact that my father He was not present for me, to me encourage me in sports, and to be able to push it, maybe I could go to hockey.

So, my, I'd organize a lot of sport. I mean that my father, de fashed, because we'd bruled his gauzon. I'd organize also, at the time, we'd call it that,

but do hockey in the room with these trophies, and... Okay, okay, not just a gang of hockey until you structured the patent and all. And I was... Yeah, I was not

totally manual, but I had reached to find some ways to do you. I had ramaced some of the

toutu of the house. It was like the ron with a project I'm a

manned I'm in obviously. You know, there's just, these gross sign of all I'm

I'm exist, I do do this like you know, like you know,

the love and the love to do you have to get to try to try to

and you try in t in t my time there had been a old

had been He had been grown in his chomined in his he was often absent during the anniversary and I remember

that at the time he did he had been pretty much and he had been too to save

some of some of women of at the time it were not known so it's

so we're in taxi on the family so that it's when it when he

when he when he was when he was the agressivet monte and it was

it just on the level of your mother, or you're with you subbisies the consequences? Well, I've ever I remember having to have to be in the garterobe when he arrived. He me never frapped, but it's a lot of psychological, and the fact, when you're an infant, you're

hearing, there's a bit of lansue, the bottle and had interwoly so much, and it's a lot, it's been a little bit of stress when an person to runne in a house, it's already, it's extremely violent, even if you're not

to receive, you, the violence, psychological, and you can let see, of the marks. Very, very, very, very profound. Parallelment to that, by the school, I was not very productive,

because I'd have been very much of anxiety, that I'd have certainly have been able to H, that's not known. I remember that my mother

wanted to consult, but my father would not, I'd have always, you know, with that, now the animals, they have done

to be the people, and I think I'd have been to have been to be able to I'm in at this level

that. I mean, I had, I had, I'd just the abandon, on me, I'd

I'd have I was afraid to not to be able to even in the first year, my route. It was difficult at the school,

incapable of my sullies, I made pee in my culott. So I was a little humiliation before the people.

So, so it's been difficult for me the parkos schooler. It's so, you're an isolle to,

you're still, so, so as you search the love, that you're young, it's not

to be able to be to make to be, but I'm this level to have been in a

certain point. But in the point, but in the fact I'm in a person different.

It's for that I'm doing it because I'm consider that I'm doing it different. And that's

it's always my life and even even again there I think I'm someone I'm trying that I'm

so that I accept also to make some of to come to come to come the point

on the people can the people can do the life in the life of different.

But, you know, it's been like a virage, it's been quite a lot of a story of where my friend he's quit.

I think my friend is a little teny also to put a role also of the responsibility by the work while that I'm

a guy who he always he had a lot of he had a big of he had been a lot of

he had a lot of something in the same so it had a It's a It's a brassed

it, it was braced and my frere had passed By the My mother, she's sure

I'm in a matter of, I'm sorry, I'm in a minute, I'm asking, I'm asking, with an man who, you know, with a time, she had been doing,

so I was, so I said, she asked, so, you're asking us, you're parted at the middle of 28, no,

no, she's sure, she had been married 28 years, and by the after the second, my parents are separated, but we,

we were, we were in a carty, we had in a triplex, we had, my father had his garage,

a chalet, and I had some of my entourage, so it's been the separation, quitted the cartier. So, so it's... You're parted with your mother? Yeah, in apartment.

So, your friend had quit, because, you know, he felt like, he felt like, he felt like, to be the present, and,

and, that's not the job. But you did an altercation, and you say, it's been extremely violent. My friend,

he had done a good reinst, it's not clear. Okay, it's got used to, he was, he was like he was a,

he was a little, I think my father He would have done his Camion and my friend I think that maybe a message I'm really

he's been good, he's the carmions all but it's more more than I'm he had been adopted also so it's difficult

so even even if he had a little prefer of your favorite of your he said a bit he had a

more he had not he was not he's not victim of it's sure that in a in my

consumption I'm quite again again I'm quite after my friend he had not demanded

so but he he had I was already named, I found, you know, you know, he'd had some, you know, he's not encouraged, but, you know, I'm, and, you know, and, I'm at the same time, my father, I've made sure I said, I've said, I've heard. So, when you're probably, you're telling you? Oh, I'm 13, 14, yeah.

Okay, so, you're in, in the adolescence, yeah? Yeah, in the adolescence, and I had already to start, you know, I'm talking about, I'm talking, a little, because, you know, we're talking, we're talking, you, I'd already, you know, I'd say, I'd tellenant, I'm glad in the Carty, we called Marko Labagore. I'd always always ask you. My friend, my friend, it's a policee of the certainty of Quebec,

and it's he who had found his surname, and I'm talking to police, and later I'll talk to the police, too, because I've already had a couple of times. Yeah, but after, and now, it's positive, so we'll start, uh, so, yeah, I've been

been able to my mother, and the school, it's all over, it's sure that, in the time of the parties, we had, even, my father, there had a lot of course, so I've got gootten to the alcohol. I've found that good, the alcohol. I've lived a little bit

in the beer to my father, and... You had that in the genie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that. And I'm someone who was a pretty timid, I was afraid, so it's difficult. In my carty, I had like an other personality,

I was like in a new known, Marko Labagore, but when I was arriving in public, I was very refurned at the school, a little interaction with the people, so, so the alcohol, it made to be maybe

more to get more to the people. It's all over the ineptions, the alcohol. At the school, I I'm at at the beginning

at secondaire two, I passed my hours of dinner to go and me to charge to get to go to go and

to go to the expo of Montreal. So the sport, it had always been something that

I'm attrere, and at the point, we'd not, we foiled not the sack, I'd there like in

six pack, in the estrade popular. It was at the time, it was

probably the Plus, the blue jays. We don't know. Why they've got to be a fayette, but no. So, it's so, so

the alcohol she had pretty much place, it's rapidly to becky, perhaps? Yeah,

well, yeah, there's the fact also that I had a rapprochement with my

father, but my father, he, he, he, he, he's made

a great depression, he was he was mad physically with that he had in

a bad in a with my rapprochement with him, but it was not evident. So,

I'd be able to be with him so, it's been a little my rapprochement. The link,

the sole thing, you're joining finally, if it's at alcohol. That's so. So,

you'd be able to pass to the good time of quality that you finally, that's not

a lot of quality, it's so. And I'm quite, I'm a bit of him because

, you know, that, you like, they'd me recognize, they're in time as a human,

and then then my in these immeable or what we were doing a drug. My father

had always been always been a person who's but he had been working in the domain of the transport

so it's someone who we're not not in the same boat but at certain time there

there were certainly there's some of some of that I never knew so that

so that's so he's a question but he was possibly to have a triplex a business

but to that at the separation the fact that just there's there can be

Okay. So he's not enough to have a great to work to work. Yeah,

and there's there's there he's in a place in a place in a

place, we're talking a little we can be in independent, and they to

get in in our house so so he had had access to

so and he he has got he moneyterman but it's

not someone that someone that's he was he was he used he rode

They'd be able to consumeers. They had the ones of the whole, it's

to be in the time. But when you traffic, and you consume not, it's really paying for

because it's that, when you don't know, the profit is 100% so it's a man.

But he was a pay the trade to the world, so he's not made really money

to go out of money to get money, quite, get paid, quite we're doing,

because we're always, it's, so we can't call not because she has crefettine a million today, my family tomorrow, so it's not great, I'm depended

$1,000 today, because tomorrow my family, it's not great, and it's a silly vicious who is often... Well, the lily are more reproached, it's not quite

quite a lot of cocaine, so I got to gootty to the cocaine. So, it's been in wine, he toch not, but all it's always,

you've got, to try to be my friend, he's probably to him also, my friend he's in fact, and I'm sure that there's

some people, there's some people who pay not, so, so maybe we're we're going to a little bit, so it's a little so, so Marko Labagore

out of the sort. A bit more so. So, in fact, you've been to work with

your father, in the phone? No, well, I'm, I'm staying in in the last of the

age of 16 years, and I'm not a guy manual, I've never been a guy manual,

so there's not a many of there's, it had been too, I had lost the school,

so it's at the aid social, I was I was a sleigh social, a check of a couple

dollars, and I'm going to arrive, so my my father, it's sure that's the money,

with the little bit of a little bit more quick, it's a serviceier who comes at the beginning, it's a classic,

a little line a vendry a day, after you know, a couple of beers, and then it's, it's been

Monday, soire, and then finally it's been 24 to 24, it's been the escalate, I imagine.

The escalate, and many of the of the people of injustice, of choler, a lot of

impiqued in the conflict, uh, first conflict also, maybe my mother with

his new conjoint, or so that I've had been my voice of fact grave with

with lesions, with Andry, who is decided today, who was my also in a part

of my life, he's been to be to be in a meeting or a meeting or

uh, uh, at this at this at this at this sure that, he'd

he'd prena he'd do the boasts, my beau father, and it's that's the

thing, it's a lot of, it's been a lot of , I'm in a question, I'm doing the drug for the time, the medication

also, the valium, the cocaine, and so, so it's, it's been to have been my first

document, and I have had had been a office of security, but I had been

there long because that I, I, I, I, I've, I've,

I've, I've, I've been, so, so it's, it's an altercation, because,

that, you see the pattern that's repeat with your hand, you'll revoir your father in this home that. No, my father, I see that he's a bit in the injustice,

he has been to be a bit of a visit also for, as he's a man. Because he's not to him? No, he's not

to be, he's a characterization, that's made that I've had a first dossier, and the consumption

has grown and my and my father, he continued to find, and I'm just,

I've been, because you say, it's, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my, dossier, all, so, because a voice-to-fa, because there's a difference between a voice, and a voice-to-fa, and a grave, grave, lesion, and, and, and, do that's what, how old, do you point with what, like, as a chiff?

I've got to put in the probation. Okay, it's always out of course, but, you know, you, it was a major, kind of, you know. Yeah, you're a major, okay, yeah, I was, you're in 18, 18, yeah, yeah, it's,

was quite, I'm still, I'm saying, I'd say, I'm over here, he'd, I'd,'d be in, you, and I'd just at end of, we, he'd be in the gason, I mean, I was he had a coup of and I was in a state of consumption, and my friend

he's on in mind, because there's been to see it, I remember that I had been to see to see it, I was completely intoxicated, and it was, it was, it was, it's, it's,

it's, it's, you, it's, you, think, you, to push, to, you, think you, you'd have put with a, a sentence of,

if someone, if someone, if someone, yeah, but, it's in the sense, you, you know,

sometimes, when we're, We're going to be in a small case, we're going to stop at a baron who'd respect But he'd have already done, I'd say not the job, but I've been presented at the hospital in a state of consumption. It's sure that there'd have to be a security. We're going to go away in the souvenirs. But, you know, there's all, there's been a lot of my life that had been turned

on the 25 years. It's just, it's just, if someone's trouble mal, so. It's a certain carseur between, you and your mother, also, to aggressor his conjoin, that's She's a part of the years. She's new news for her years. She's retired. I mean,

if your mother she's in her because she's an age of the violence and that's her father agress, her new chum,

she has not the choice for her own for her, I think not that's good. That's not, I've been

in contact with her in a few years. She does not help the sentiment of abandon that you

have from after the after. No, that's so, and, well, let,

my first, my first not at the I'm I'm sorry because I'm no, no,

no, I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, but after the situation, in the front of time,

to get the yeah, first offence, you know, to take the asserre, because you're not a second

I'm not no, I'm not scalerity, manual, a bit, much inferior, my friend, is my hero,

he chove the carw, he chove de there, there's, there, there's, there,

there's, I'm mad, you know, I'm mad, you, I mean, so it's difficult to train me. And I'm not

not sure to help. The therapy, it's a more popular at the time. I'm not really to

find out of a child. I'm going to a child. No, no, no, it's not that.

Some of just come back to get to people, because you know, there was there was

there's not I'm going to get to I'm going to get, but there there's a there's a

question in which I'm there, I'm a grand frere also that I idolatry long time.

But, you know, we can't go to get because we don't have been to take. You know, I'm young,

I'd have to go to and I'm not, because I'm not that I'm because I don't that's not, I know that I'm

not so well, you know, so it's important that the people know that's it's, you know, it's, you're not,

we're doing, but, sometimes, we're doing, but what I'm what I'm, what I'm because I'm

because I'm many of the social, there's many of the radio social, especially, like, with you, but there are

people who are people who are so much of things, so the so that's the same about it's

a lot of the state mental, you know, it's a state it's a moment, you know, so I'm just

revenue, you know, on the fact to say, that's important to put up time, I'm not trying, but we're

not in the place of to get at this moment that, the consumption has grown and,

I've had a cousin, it's, it's my name, we had these siles different, I had these good memories of him. He was a rocker.

He had been also Osbourne. And I was more a disco and then it's a lot of so that's the point that I thought

but I thought much, but I had had a young girl, I had a old with her,

she had 17 and a and a year and she was not old she had she had to be 20th

in this moment that 19 years so that it's a after after the history

when you're in when you're in comprobation finally yeah yeah

I've met this girl, so it's my first blonde. So, so I'm sorry. So, if I was concerned a lot of she was probably at this time, she had consumed more of cannabis.

It was a little h at the point, all that. So, we, we, we've conceded an infant, so I'm, I think, interiorly, so I was,

probably not ready to that. Um, so I'm just, the first time, I've been, the first time, I'm known,

the encounter, I was in a park in trying to I was to be I was I was a bit discouraged

because after the pastation on the second I'm having to I'm trying to buy a

only to get a old old there. There are the people who had to get to

get to get to my beer I was to get to my beer, and I'm getting to

the same so, so it's a bit of so, okay, okay, the psychopath

John, I'm pete a bit on tex in face, and you putt a bit on a chair and

to put a someone who's a bottle is cast, when he came to to pet it in the head, I'm going to

get to be going to do and I'm going to do with a bit of I'm going to because of my life.

I'm there's a way, I'm not a therapy here, but it's a

refulment and the return of so I'm much, I'm very in my my life

in me and I'm I'm putting a beer on a and I'm putted

all, so it's it's a lot of there's a question, if I'm if I'm

if I'm the link, it was a bit of the abandon, I've seen, all that's the, so I'm going to over the past that you're talking,

so I'm going to see I'm going to get a bit of the beard, I'm going to get a bit on the head, you know, I'm a bit of

a baronac there, she was in Moseco she had been in a jacket, she had seen in a bracier, and she had

had made his jolet on the front and the police are coming, I've been, I was at the hospital.

She was in a center, we had contact. Oh, because it's a lady to see, it's a few of

the and then she's and then it's the night, we're we're coming to see, there was a little episode also, where it was going to a rendezvous with people

when I was when I was arrived there, they've been on saughty on they're going to get to pay the and they're going to be able to

and they're back to do you and then I'm a little bit, I'm afraid of all right, and I'm back to do you

know, I'm going to be going to say we'll say that we'll give more, they he's going to get to

money and it and that's that's a cousin, we'll, I'm an hand, my case of

my case with the carabines, so I'm there's just there's over there with a two in the

back, and my bat of baseball that my cousin there were, and there were 30 people, we had been in the park,

and there I, I tried two two times in the park, the world would be in the direction of those other or like,

constantly, it's on the right, so it's so, so it was, I had not already, the middle

carceral, but I was really, I'm in, in a pond descendants. You know, when you

said, when I, you know, I said, you, just the fact that you went to

to fending the job to tonne to a shot or it would be really

really really thing like a 12, 30 person it would have been

a lot of people who had been in someone who would be there's a minute that and we're

in the question, she had she called Bonne and Claire She said she's she's right

she's she she'd like more, I'm more, I'm more, I'm talking about her penitancey, but

her father is decided, she had never seen someone probably of the middle, so it's a bit

so forth But I'm not with a question, you know, the young man, you know, and I'm going to come to see,

but the little guy who's always, the top in the back to his father, the approbation, probably someone

who is very, give me to your love, I want to, you know, you're a different,

affective, or, you're an overprotector, you know, you know, so often, it's,

you know, a guy jalo, a guy possessive, yeah, the relation to the not been in continue because you've

will have what you've been after, but in fact, what you say it's been doing, because I used to like, when I did say, I'd have my pay, hey, I've been like, you wanted, he's saying, hey, you know, you're not, you're saying, oh, you know, that's what, and...

If you were, we're in the entire, I'm a protector, too, with my friends, so, me, for, to see, the table in the door, I'm ready to do whatever. The tap so y'allel. Yeah, it's sure. To have the tap in the door, you don't know

the tap so yeah, and I see, and I'm ready to go with these arms, so it's a way, it's a way, to be that's a lot of it's there's a regret that I face to that there's

like I'm like you see, this young that's she's in front, then she had made

a fugue and my my cousin we're able to say, we can't go to get to

get to the film so I'm I'm not, I'm not I'm not a cahid that's

I'm not I'm going to have my cousin to go and the famous dose in question. We're

had to to do you're having a in a, in a piece of a business and we're really seen our but this

showery that where's the time, there had been, a month there had a month, there was a murder at

St. Tiberr where the police had had been asked, what's you got in your sack

and the monsieur he had to try the police so that a week a minute

after, I'm I'm a I'm a two, so I'm a 12, so so if

another it's that I had, It's just by a a chance. Yeah, by the You do you

do with a because you're going to get a reported the gun. Yeah, it's so the do you So that's it So that's it

It's been Mavre's Andro Moved moment Yeah, and my And my cousin we were like We're like We've got

not rancor there, but we're We're in front Dope We know, we're coming to do

to do you know at some the same Soire, we're all And at that At that I'm,

it's like I was, I was there I was I've been I've passed encro and at

this time I'd have had been a lot of having been in having been to have a way to have to

have a so so I've never had never made a day of prison you know, you know,

you're just in co and yeah, you're probably a night you're probably a new year, I'm probably

there's been there's a many times there's I've been put a pinnation I'm

had been quite I'm a guy who had timid all you I mean, I'd not quite in my place, malgris when I've been

violent at the exterior, but it's a lot of consumption, you know, I'm... But I'm going to go to go to the first, it's, you know, the famous vol that,

you know, the reason principal, I don't know if you I'm not, you're not, the game monetar, or it's just, you know,

I'm not going to find, if you're, I've got a to have a question, or it's more, we're just, we're doing

something, we're doing, we're just, It was not the path of game, but it was also, in research, we're able to, and we're able to

see the problem, and in the same time, I went to be there and I'm afraid. It was so, so, so. So, I'm sure to find... It's what?

Your first sentence? It's a 30-month-month, so, in the first, it's volk-qualified by arm, because, like, with the dose, they're relied to roll.

Oh, it's been it's been quite markant for me, you know, I think still today, it's a mark my first point in

detention. I've got to not, I'm not a guy that's my way to marches, I've been my fashion

also, the way of talking about, and I'm sure, I'm to find in the prent at the

reception, at Noel, I'm sure that it's difficult. There, I'm saying abandoning, not a lot.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was a day, I'm sorry, And then I said, yeah, I, I'd I'd see other person, of other personages, you know, there, there's a lot of people, you know, there's a little bit of, you know,

you're still, you're not very gross, so, so, that's a little cue, 19-and, a little. Yeah, it's in a gross game, that, it's, you know. You're so, you're in prison? Because you're the habit of consuming a lot, there's not a time of craving. I don't know. I'm not, I remember of that.

I just I remember the Newel that was difficult the army of the salue who came with with

with the trompete I'm not too I'm just I'm just just feeling to have been past in a group

and then you're you're attached to be menate to get and I'm and I'm

nervous and you have you follow the you're you're he'll he'd

not he'd he's he's what he he's what he's we're

we're all all we're all when I'm they're they're all

chate my linge, and I he's he's always made my identity, he made a

number. So we didn't have not the door of the shoe of jogging like today. So that

I'm deshumanized in fact, you know, you've got no, you've been your life,

and you call 42, 27, 32, whatever, you know, just that when you're

going to get out, you're going to when I went to I've been some

I've been there, if he's tried for me, the first time to see, I'm going to

to be a appartagnet that's a place to get a place of course of to see, the poinier

that's the point of the first time and I'm with the guys of Sherbrook who had eliminated

the capital of the capital of the fact it's a impressioning to me to be in the

same it's it's a something for a young man who that that's

it's it's it's been what in the sense in the is you

is you do you have you a you have you this sentence that you've done that, I've said,

my life, I don't that's not that's that's not, my life will be that but I'm

going to be the same, the same kind of, is it, is it, is it, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm a ch'am, I'm on, when I

get a , we're going, we're going, I'm trying, I'm, I think, I've had, I've heard,

I've heard, I, so, I, you know, I've always, it's, wow, they're,

They're being hot, these people there. So I didn't have not these idols, but I thought that, I thought that, I thought that

not cute, I said, oh, they're doing it's so. They're not being hot at the same hot as

that's, so they're so. It's sure that I've had had an opportunity after

10, 11 months, to go, to go, they're called it's a bonbons, there's a

because some they're in times, it's a piece, I've had a business at Montreal,

that had the pvium Miguel, where I've been in When you say, well, the system seems to

want to give to do a lot of a lot of it's not not... But it's not you're in

paper, it's all look at bad, but it's not the case. There are some of

their pen sentence, because there can't also there's some of there's

for people, the house of people, the prison, you know, because you're there's a

lot of there's a person than in a prison than in prison. Yeah,

and, you know, my part- it's not 25 camp of prison, but there's been a lot of prison interior.

You can be in prison also, and you can be out, and you can be in front, and you can't have the prison interior, so I've also, I've been also, the an an family in a lotjointed,

it's the PIC who had not structured around me. So, if there was the famous the famous, the famous Pavio Mel Gregoa who had a therapy,

I had kind of made some of some experience, she had seen an intervenant had made an of my work at university

for me to show, but there, there was my wife, our mom. It's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I think, I'm trying to my wife, I'm going to

to get ridse to get to my own, but I'm doing that's with my parents, so,

so I, in a kind of when I'm getting to get to get ,

I'm in a matter that was not bad not bad not not much, so I

have made some, and I've had been to be she's she had been

some It's so I made a lot more so it's not been really evident to give to give to give to give you so much

it's a man who's after a man who's after a little promise I'm in in liberty illegal

so that if I mean I've made to taint of the shoe I've had to make a bad

good there had a visit to see to see you to see the agent who had been

to you had demoled my loggment a A little, maybe, the comportment I had been

interjected to my father, I had defunced a psalis, a cold to bat.

We're just, it's often, you know, the, you know, father violent, you,

it's not automatic, but, you know, it's not automatic, but, you know, often, we're always,

we've got on the , and that's that's what in a minute also, we make a normality to

that, but, well, I'm, so, it's what, it's normal, you,

but it's I'm not going to have gone to spend too long. It's been a trice for my daughter, I'm not going to be able to talk. But, but it's been to return at the center of detention. I had made the center

federal, which at the time was a medium, but there, for the return, I'm consuming a lot, I remember to have been to have been to have been to have to have done to do mal.

I was telling her tocky that she had had to arached the door, and the vowsons called the police, and the police could after me, I had

I met him I'd chripped the bottle so I'm going to get riddened to get rid of all right

they're in a lot of I'm not sure I think it's but I'm in front of the infirmary because I'm

totally madaned so so that it's been the return in detention and then by the

after the I've known the Institute Lecler who is now for a prison for

for having so so that ran to the agent that the agent of me he said

Marko here depo at the center federal So I'm going to give you to do the regs to see if you do do you do to pay you, it's going to be able to take,

you're going to replace your poe, and then, then, you know, make all your affairs. So, I've seen that we're going to be in a medium-farve, and there were the guys of the Max, who were, so. So, so I've seen, and I was in a sector that it was, the guys, he'd had all in a time of view, the most of the part. So, you know, I have not, the propos of certain, it's that you're not, you're not, you're not the time to be of things.

There were a few years. There were a few years. It was a second that's a other, it was a other, an other, an other, so. You discover that's that,

okay, it's a, it's a brawl, you, a guy who's, a, a, a week, a week, a week,

yeah, at the time, the old pen had to be having been in having been there were in the time,

even I think when I was at the center federal, so, you, there were, you, there were the guy of the U.S. I'm not not even not even not even if they were still in the old pen So I had a colloquy

Not a colloquy But a colleague of the wing That would gole with his pick And then Oh, there's a little I'm a major So it's a... If you're a...

If you're getting married to pick It's the more than Yeah, I'd have kind of To make a musculation It's something that I've did a lot in my life For Limer at the time And I've got to

I'd come to do of the musculation, and I was also with a monsieur that I had known also in detention, maybe to appertained, all. And he was quite, he had been quite old, and they have demanded to change the sector.

There's a guy who's going to say, there's a 15, 16 years, I've never had a new war, I thought it's a... Yeah, well, it's a lot of mentality, other norm. So, yeah, it's so. So, I, I've,

I've got to, I'm coming my sentence to Lecler, so it's, it's been, it's been, it's been some, it's, it's been, for me, to have been there. It had almost been more to, just,

for doing, to do, just to make your chiff plain to have your to see. And I've seen some of the

person who's that I can't nomy, it was at the beginning of the year, it was the time, I had the

written on the case, some of the names that we have been in the journals before, one that's

before, but, it's so, you've been, you've been, you've been, you know, but it's

, you know, but, you know, if people me, They're not I'm not, you know, who was there, you know,

that's the little bit of, you know, you're just, he's like impressioned, and then, yeah, that's so, you, you've got to

have been, you, it's not, had been, there's been, there's been, I've been able to, I, see, you know,

the coat of social, I, I've used to get to have, to find out of the question, is what you

, so, I mean, yeah, so, so I'm, so, case, it's the medication. So I'd have to

get into the hash at the time, and I'd get to get some I'd get some of the medication, but I'd have to have attention, I'm made a lot of your water in wing,

you're going to rest in your cellul, it would be dangerous for me, because there, a moment, when you're too shed,

it's a middickament, then, I'm made fatooed also there, you know, I'd say my little things and, you're

doing my little then I'm, there's always, there's, no, no, but as, as kind of,

We're going to say, we go. And then, you know, you're resour, and is, is you reprehend contact with the mother of your daughter, your daughter, when you're going to, there's a first sentence, it's a man that you came to finish,

you got returned, you're returning. Yeah, I've returned. And when you're saying, is, is, is, is I'm trying to, I imagine that I'll just say, no, if you consume in debt, you're sold out.

No, but now, my father, he'd pursue-s, he'd be able to stifian, but there, he had been more physically, he had started to do a C-C-V,

So I've decided to To take the relive So my father It's remassed At the hospital He was placed And I've got to At that

His own I'd be there You'd You're working Yeah, it's That's the spot It's the It's the

Yeah, Yeah, Laron was I'm I'm a guy That had I'm a lot Of course

I'm probably I'm talking I'd have The beer Yeah And I'm My chair It's a chauffeur

taxi He'd overest of 24 the beer. I mean, I'd also, I'd

also I'd also do the can't I'm in some of the little bit

to fancy, I'm saying, you say, you're saying, you're a

guy, not manual, not an end of stupifian, you're an imagination

to make your mindable, let's the obstacle there's, it's that I'm

that's, so I'm I was, I'm doing, I'm some, it's a

serviceious, people get to ramass, you've got to be with a bit of dispensate. And so, so, that's the fact, that's impleck, really in the traffic

of stupifying, yeah, there were the guy that's up, and there were kind of a respect for me. He said,

I mean, at the beginning, I was, it's a more structured, but at the end, that's the wife,

and her , my, wife, and he live in another logement, I'm pretty present, uh,

her mother, at coototot of other person, so I'm not content of that, I was a little jealous. I mean,

I was going to be a party. You're still responsible? You're going to say to me. I'm sorry. I mean, there's a party at a house, and I'm not totally of course with that.

And I'm not quite in the guard of the room. I had started, I had started also to enjoy with the arms, but I had to start with a gun for to fight to the world.

We'd sort out by the windows, but it was not a gente to be not the part, so I'm impression that you're when you're in

a good conso, you, you know, you've had some psychose. Yeah, I know I know that this word I said,

to part to part of to puttick to putt you know, I'm really the impression that's not

really in psychos I don't know I'm not in the history of patterns. At this time, I didn't,

I was, I was, I think, I think, I'm talking to talk to and at the interior of

me, it's a I'd be able to I'm afraid of that. It was really, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, the, you've, you, you've,

you, you, You go not the landmine, you know, no, it's not more than the moment, you're in the moment, you're in the moment present all the time, right, because, you know, they're in a party and start with a gun, when you just want.

When you just get to start in a shift. No, no, no, it's not. It's just, you know, it's just, you'd have to pay one with a piece, you know, you're doing, you know, it's not, that's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, not a, you know, I'm, you know,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna name it, I'm, I'm, I'm a can't, guitar organized, it's, it's, it's not brilliant, in a certain in a certain volle. It's, it's, that's,

that's, I'm going to say, survive, because for me it's a life, you know,

that's that's in, you know, because you're, because you're in a pattern of, I'm in the

traffic, I've done, I'm doing to talk, so, so, so, so,

so, that's, that's, it's, it's, she, she's, she,

a moment a swat that's what I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not quite I'm sure I'm sure

I'm more I'm more a minute you're doing you say she she'd she'd she'll be

she's a she's a much of suffering for a mare because we had put a lot because she she had

cut up contact and she she had to work he had at 8 o'clock the morning I was

sitting she'd be not bad I'd be all right I'd be it's It would have been more

down the time to have been to die than to die than to die to die and that it's,

it's, it's, it would be rough for a mother to think that, but I'm the,

the, you know, the mentality to say, it's, it's, I know, I know, I know,

not always that's, but it's because it came to me to me to be

to be able to the father, just when he when he's when he's when he's been in

prison, because it's has been to say, it's he's not Marr? You know,

you know, it's a pattern to say, hey, well, he's in prison. You know,

it's... But that's it's often, the therapy, the prison was, it's a

matter of I'm at a minute, you know, how is, you know, how is it can,

we think, we think, we're just to do a matter of, that's an impact,

the entourage. Look, it's not been, it's not been to be dis-ststststap and I'm

And in a minute, also, I was made attack, I was made up to be able to get back, they wanted to get to be, I had a few years of the other

and then it started, he'd have to have to have some but it's not subtle, the world who's what

what's going, and then put a party, putt a house and a run, it's, it's paying,

it's paying. So, that, after that, I'm after that, I've been really to come down

to consume and I've had had used wudy, it's key, and I, I was ex-per

to announce I'd like a showoff, and a big barge, I was in the famous local there, I was in a carabine, and then, I was just, I'd be promenade, and I'd, and I'd go ahead, and I'd go ahead, and then, and then, and, like, I'd have, you ever, you know?

You're like, like, , you're like, you're, like, you're having to do you're trying, to find, to be able to defend? Well, they'd, they'd be, to be revenge, that, that, so. But, you know, because you said,

like, because you said, you're, like, because you say, you're, consume, like, say I'm if I'm if you're in a mind

that, you're in this mind-sett, that's that's a paranoia, that's there's

in a little, I'm in a guy who's on the coque. Oh, no, he's part of that's fucking,

that's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's a, it's, you, it's,

you know, it's, you know, so, you know, so, so, so, you, so,

so, so, so, I, so I'm, It was going to less emmorganized, and I decided to have to be in order

after the logglement, the police I think it was, it was chaned with the cameras, and the voids were there were, also, in my clientele, there were who had come to vallier in the vicinity, so. So, so, I mean, it was a logement to my father, and it was, it was like

I shant, I'd let's come, because, you know, it's plain to say, but it was like an heritage that I had left, you, He... He... He'd He'd done in the hands A run

Calabin, he was a He'd be He'd be sure, So, so, So, he Ruele-Smoe.

And then, my name I'd met in contact with other person, but I'd have had

a guy that I'm saying, well, we'll be able to take the loggen,

and I was, I was partied, I'm all, I'm just there's all there's just

there's not person who that's not there's not to be able to be able to be to be to be

because he'd have for the money you're going to to have to get to get to get and I'm sorry and then you

it's already it's a right there yeah, the traffic is the traffic is the traffic is that's already

that I'm there's a lot more and more disorganized I imagine the guy in console who makes kind of

you're still you rest in console and you do you can't put more on fair continue to consume

I had I had reached to be able to be able to that's it had been and I'm also

there's because there's a lot of there's a lot of it's after it's after there's a

episode I had soote that I was incarcerated at the time, before that I

had to the lot of I've known a two-mo one at Bordeau

I I've had been I'm a friend and I'm a time

and I'm a bit before I'm I'm the the lead of the logement. I had

been at a friend, and I was a child, I was completely intoxicated, I had applied in the car of medication, all that you

didn't know, so long time that you had not, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, I'm going to the labo, and there's a madame, she's with her daughter, and,

and, then, she, then, she, and then, she makes, she,

she went on at the gallery, and she, she makes, a foot, she made, to fweight, her,

So, now, I'm in a party, there's a A little fee that's a chien, because it's a little chien Psycheo. I'm not in a party, I'm a friend who consumes. And then, now, the madam, she petted a plan after her wife. Yeah, and she's off, okay. And she's offutt, and she's in front.

So, yeah, I'm, I'm a bit far, I'm very far away in the day. So, it's, it's, I'm trying to find out in the den. And then, I decide to me fair justice. I attack not the dam, but I'm present at her on the gallery, at her fenight, and I pete, very fast. Like,

there, by the suit, I'm recule, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people who have to do

make a bad party. There I'm quite quite, I'm still in where's the where my local is

been to be able to be able to boucher. I'll come to the place, because I had pett

a bit with your point. And then I, then I want to go on the world. The police

are arrived, and then I'm made to be noted, and there, I was in detention,

with the docket federal that I had also, it's not too long they've been a plus one. So, that's said,

a Bordeaux two-moe one, so that's a provincial Bordeaux. Yeah, a guy who who has

been in a federal, you're a yeah, but I, I regretted a little, I know,

I know, I'm not again, I know, there's a difference between the federal and Bordeau.

Well, at Bordeau, it's different. There, you have, there, you're, there's a sector

of 200 at the time, and there were a lot of violence, and it was something, not a lot of respect, not more, there were de guys, so I've often said, especially at this epoch, the jungle.

Yeah, and I was in the jungle, I saw get in the famous submarine, and the people were to be able to, people to be able to, I saw, play, plenty of things. I, I did my, my affairs, but it was, it was a sentence difficult, to live, also, again, with the

remod, to say, what I'm doing, what I'm I said, still, I'm a old, and then my conjoin who frequented of the world who consumes,

she'd and she'd be in a thing to find that, it's a rough. It's after that you're out of

that you're that's right, that you're that's that you're that's, you know, that's the

that's true, that's the thing you're that's that's a sentence. It's so, so. The sentence

at Bordeau, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of At the time, he called it the C-Wing, the Sector C, it was a quite something. There was, there were, these emirte,

we're in terms of, yeah, it's so, yeah. Hello, everybody, Cedric Bergeron. I'm in direct to Moe in studio, and I'm a few seconds for you talk to our more-year commandester, who is with us, we had two, three-million visioned by episode,

and he was there, and, sincerely, if he had not been there, I don't even if this project that exists still, because they've really aid financially at the beginning with

this project and I'm to give them and I'm sorry that I'm here to do you know, there's a lot of

people who are talking about an offer of insurance, it's what, in private, the people people, so I

take the time to you're talking to you know, it's a time, they specialize in insurance

life, so they're some of the concierance ofie who have forbu

the no, no, no, case refuse, it's their speciality

that No, no case refused. Because when you're an certain age as an age, if you're a dossier criminal and if you

have a disease, like a cancer, it's extremely difficult, to have an assurance of life. So, they, they're going to

have to have. If you're there, if you're not sure that you're assurable, you think you're not

assurable, contact them, they, they're going to have to have an assurance life.

It's important for not to let's your in the need to be in the problem. Compare my Prima.

So you'd pet a federal you're not not long time he's not a situation that you're to put a

two-moing one Bordeaux you're resour it's there that the whole of the apartment the console

the traffic is there and there we're because we we're we're reculled for the

Bordeau and you know you you know you're bansed some you're on some

on the yeah yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a

I'm I I'm not at the road of my my wife. Okay. That's the matter of disappear, she's on the boat of Terbonne.

So, so I've been long time without their re-voire. If, then it's the prison interior

that will be to be to malle to the consumer, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not able to live that, I'm not to be able to be able to be able to my pen

will not well-be- and all. So, so, I'm alwain I'm a little few months.

If I'm trying to make some some years, I'm in a loggment. You know, in loggment

and I'm really, I'm really, really, I'm really, at a point of business, you're, to be a point of depart, you know,

at where you're at 16 all, all, console, apart. Yeah, I'm all single

to abandon in a logement, on the aid social, I know at the point, I've reached

to have a lot of a lot of at the time, and he said that it had been a second

to have five, but I had to get to see the guy, I've seen

I've seen I've seen, I've received the book Urdu, yeah, who,

he had not be quite could talk could be could talk with this guy

but it's a very much not ironic. In fact, you understand who's a person who's physically

very demanding. The young sportive in you know, and it's so, he accept, they accept these guys,

the guy, magane, and it's so, so at this time, I, I've found,

a realisation and I re-refering with my friend with my friend, he chove the camions,

I'm over there, I've started to, I'd also, I I'd proceed to do you, When I was a lot of liberty when I'd be

even the mayor, I'd share it still to the recognition. But I'm just, you know, I'm just to see, your state psychological because, you know, what you're talking to like, I'm talking to, I'm just alone, I'm just on sole, I'm at this period that that you're reprimand a bit of the

decision, exactly, with this job that, and so... Not too, because, you know, I'm a consumer actor, so. So, I'm one of the good courier there, but I'm not fiat. The day, the boss who he may be able to have, if I want to have.

By I'm talking, I'm talking to I'm talking to I'm a bit, I'm a bit, I'm a bit, I'm a car, I'm a

co-of-coated, I'm doing to get the poeatshop to and I'm and I'm sure, and I'm, you know, I'm a major of the company,

and there, and there's a time, there's no, I'm in a row, in New York, and I'm, I'm gonna,

see, bombper of char, and the day I, the day, I did the run with the gason peasant, there's even

there even, there's, there even, there's been to work, So, you know, I've got So I've got to search a lot of visualization. I remember the morning, to see the time,

they're going to be and they're in a bando of Rembo, and then, that, it's just, that's, that's, you know,

this famous tap in the door that's all I've got to their marries, he's good. So, so,

so, so, I've got the feeling at the entire, to not do you, to be far

, you know, I'm rancor, and, you know, the food, and, so he rests that I'm more present at the time.

The patron of the time he's not I'm going to I'm doing all that the support to keep to

keep to get an employee stable so it's it's a cool because the part where you go to search

what you've got to do you do you do you do do the activity physical and it's well paid

yeah yeah yeah yeah and you tap in the back you're good in what

you're good in what you do you rest in your mindset that I'm it's ironic the way I'm going to say I said it's even reflected but you know you know it's like you've got to be like a windage finally you're like a deced to

I'm just like the day of the society I'm sorry there's often I'm important you know I need I need to buy the money to go and I'm to try it's not a lot or I'm saying you know what I'm it's a way cool so that's a way

it's a way you said you'd you'd say you'd say you'd you'd say I'd be I'd be the poohs I'm just I'm like there's people who's my pubble I'm like to rage, and then a few,

at this time that I'm at least my brother, because my friend was quite with my was quite a place where he had any point where

the world had talked about about it, he'd talk in back back, he'd go back, but you know, because you're not

in the crime, but you're to be a life, and it's so, it's so, so. There's been

a, there's a last contact also with the vent of stupifian, where's that a person

that I had known at the time, he vended some chaperfiang, I accepted to have

an run so that again, the consumption has been in the desue so I'm down at least

I'm remorse at some places. We had had a quadrilater where I had a

wheel, and I had been in a velo and it was there were to it was

by car and it was a one of a and a demi and then

I was there, I went in the some of the families that had

some it that it was a manned to search a lot of I had some people

that were they were going to give them the cliques their auto, their

vatement so it it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it can't to be to you know, it can't be to say,

hey, I'm, I'm not so payed that, you know, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, legitimate, you, your console, that's more pay than their own, check, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, it's not a chloe,

so, so, so, I'm gonna, you know, I'm still, you know, I'm not,

I'm, that's, the person who, my super, at the time, he's not, he's, he's,

he's, he's defuncy with me, because I'm part of three, four, four years, so,

so, I, I was after, to find the con. In my logement, the concierge, I'd go and say, he'd say, he'd pass to what at what's at what? But, I had kind of a little luxe. I had a cell of training at home with the group systems of all, all,

but, you know, I had kind of, they'd have to be therein, it'd be able to firemere, so. The bar, so. You said, you still, the truck also? No, I'm sure. It's not. It's not been super long, the moment of the vidongue,

and to work, you? Yeah, it's true. How many of the time, at a pretty? Yeah, maybe a minute, maybe, me, yeah. But, you know, it's not in permanent. I part, I'd, I'd have, I'd have been in front, and I'd have been to see, so, so, yeah, I've been able to have been to work with you. So, now, I've been able to get me report to the person, and conred our affairs,

I've got to be able to catch, but I'm so on Christmas, I'm chute in a foot, and I'm flound, a coup of feet, I'm playing with a bit, I'm playing with a guy, so I'll regue my count, all. I'm doing to tear, all. After that, after that, it's been the last moment, where I've been in the criminality. It's a lot of the tendency to

the tendency to have to offer violence, you know, because I've seen a lotomultilation, but, you know, to people, you know, to see, to scobey for, you know, I don't know, that's what the mal

that I do, sometimes the auto-mutilation, it's so, but, you know, you can crosser these things, but for you to do you, and all the time,

these cuts, and they're in vit, in the coup of in the bierde, you know, there's a There's a lot of there's a lot of,

there's a lot of, but, you know, you can't get to get a without a yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm saying,

I'm not that, you know, I mean, you're doing, you're doing, you're far as a mal at a person, but

Chris, you're more you're more, you're more, too much, you're also that you're so, it's so,

it's so, at the point, at the point, that's probably, that'd have to probably, in the time. No, it's not a

way, you know, it's not a way, you know, it's , you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's

what I'm doing to , you know, that's what I'm , you know, there's a moment where I, I'm returning on the loggence,

alone, I'm really, but with him, you've said, to have, to have, yeah, I've readed

other way, yeah, and I'm just a other man, he was a man, he was always, always, to be over-

, I'm, always, I, I had to work to work in a time, it's obvious,

I'd get a small to regulate his accounts, my time a while an year, he made a

lot of a lot of a year, I was revenged, I was revenged, I was trying an arm,

I was to get to get the time, so it's been quite for, to pay your debt?

Yeah, I'm like, he was, he had not a, he had an alliance negative also, so, so, I'm

had been very what I had been , what I'm he pri, also, couple of a couple of a few of

a couple of stuff. You've had to go out of a big party. And by the

course. And by the next, it's like, it's arrived a little plus, the islement

in the housement, and then contact, and I met up, pay my loggen.

So, that's it's been the it is an it thing, you're at about

at the age at this time? We're we're about 918. The Pini Tarsis

They've been to 86. May 12 years, the in in in in aught of prison, the stories of crime and of violence, and I'm not, you know, I'm not. No, no, I imagine. If we'd do all these in and out, you're doing, you're doing X reasons, of violence, to pete these plon,

and the police are, and they're not, and they're not, it's not too, it's not a question. It would have been able to make me aid. But, since now, now, if I'm, excuse me, I'm sorry, You know, you've calculated, at a pretty time, you've done,

total? A dozen of years. A dozen of years. A dozen of years. Yeah, it's true. It's a dozen of an hourd, and so. So, you, so,

on 12 years of this life, you've got to be 10 years to, you know, it's never these long periods in the exterior. No, no, that,

and then, then, I continued to consume, isolated, I, I was to roll the boss, I'd want to see. I'd have been

to pass the day in New York and I'm doing it's a lot of a day, sick, and I'm getting

a big year so I'm an isolated, not a lot, it's a very depressive, and you're in the end up,

you're in the loggment, I'm in the loggen, and I'm there, I'm in a road at Longueueue,

I'm just I've been to have cuched in a block that was that were there had

had to be a boise also, not long also of the 116 there's I had

also there's a there a there's a and there in a in the house

so that I've repri contact with my mother at that she she'd be able to

have been of the money to get to I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

to get to get to not there's I'm gonna there's there's a there's a there's a

there's a I don't know what I'm going to do. So I decided to do the auto stop. I had made a therapy, at the time, I had known

someone who had had gone to a center for the Sands Abri. I mean, I've made an auto stop. In 98,

I'm in the road. My mom had given 20 Piace. And even I think I'd think of 10 pia, it's

that I can do for to. It was difficult, because in detention, he'd be able to in charge. You know, you see, I'm going to go to see, you know, you're going to be a structure.

But, then, you part, and you say, as far, I don't know where I'll go go to, I don't know, so. So, so, it's, and, yeah, I, I've been the force for committing, and then, and then, you've got to,

so, it's been, it's been, it's difficult, in that, So I've I've descended to Sherbrooke and... There's a

moment where, you know, I'm really very emotive in this moment that because you're

there's a not a avenue, you know, is actually the option of bayy and in your

head, I'm in that, don't? No, it's been more that,

I'm always, I'm always, I'm quite, I've been quite made much

super, I've probably made, I've never had tried to to me to me in to be in the

way, but there are who are to try to get to the way but I'm more,

I'm more, I'm doing I'm had already I'm thinking my thought you're

a bit and I'm saying, if you're a poor and it's not good, it's a

it's a merit that it's a meritor. And then at Sherbrook by the there was

there was, my Chabbeenand of the I've been to be to be to part

St. Franco, it's the The famous place that you was going, it's like that that someone

you've been talking, you know, the thing is, it's, it's a good, it's been in, I've got to be at Longueueue,

I know Longueueil, and there's there, and there's there, there's, there's, but, honestly,

I don't know where we're going, but we're going to be to get, to the, where, there's a lot,

where there's there's, you know, to be there, you know, it's, often, it's,

it's a good option to not to be in, you know, when it's there that's been in the mud, you're probably not to be able to

get to be in there. There was no, I'm not, I'm not sure, but I'm in a unicycle fixed,

and I'm also my cootent anti-social, for the long, that I think they're quite the guys of the people, you know,

they're not to get to all the person, but they're not the person, but they pass the journal at the way,

my own, that I'd have tried to find of what, but, you're, I'd rather than, He was not able to pay the facture and be in detention. I'm sorry. You'd have been in the criminality

before to goatee? It's right. It's right. I'm going to go ahead. You've been to Cherbourg. So, you've been to a boulevard, and I was coming there, and I was going to be there. It's an promise to have a re-in-lis.

It's a lot of course. It's been 40 years. I've worked there. You're working there, I'm going to. It's sure we'll come here to do, but it's very cool. So, then, the monsieur who has been acueyed,

It's an ex-police of the Security of the Quebec, but he's he's probably religiously, and there, he's a lot he doesn't

not too of information. I mean, I'd say, I'd have not my chance to have to have my day after the time of the

time of the time. I've got to my chance, it's a family, it's the family Gregororor who have done

the opportunity to go back to be able to so, I'm quite, six months where I'm I've sure-fate a health. I've been

happy by them. Health, physical and mental, I imagine. Yeah, I'd have to consume at this time, so it's been really an avenue that that's been positive for me. I've been trained. It's the first time that you

take the aid? Yeah, I was in prison. You'd have perhaps, you'd be in, maybe, you know, like, on federal, you know, there's a way, but when you know that you know, but you feel that you've got to You have a need to be in the way. I mean, it's a bit of spiritual,

religious, I'm identifi, me but the aid is there, but I remember that at Noelle, he pays their repos, all, he me done a little tache, I'm occupied in a cuisine,

so I feel, I'm I'm sure, I'm respected, and I reprehend, and I'm trying to there's a judgment. If we're in a center like

that, there's not no, I'm not, I'm not, you know, in the city, and I'm not, you know, but, you know, I'm coming to the criminality there,

I'm not, you're not the last the last year, I go to gym, and I go to the gym, the world of the sport, the idea who he's out of, he doesn't. He does not call, so I'm entrained. After six months, I, well, I'd probably not,

perhaps, you know, I'm interested in a lot, because, you know, I'm interested in a lot, you know, to always have these years ago to so, but I have a need of liberty. I don't have a lot of contact with my wife, Jessica, that, who is rendered an adult. Maybe not an adult. She's an adolescent, it's a lot.

You're having to spend on six months of Sherbrook that you're starting to have by the time. By the end of course. Okay. And then, after the six months, I'm going to have rested in a logement.

I'm still. I feel a reshute of consumption after six months. There's a fact markant also my father, he'd give me a lot of things to my friend, but it's still there,

you know, my friend, it's not he who he demanded, my friend, he had these charmed up, and my father my dad had never to buy me never had ever

to get a car, it's always a little bit of my son, I'd remonsting to get a money to buy

to buy you would be to get to get that like that like that you'd after six

months I recheted and the the cardo she has not had been so that it's

it's it's it's that I'm felt to what I'm at the

age and I I'm I just remember that this night I've been very, I'm going to

get to get a in psychiatry, I'm in a detress, and I had really tried to be able to

be able to and I'm not been really to be able to my background of prison, they've said that's a

person, that's not my place in psychiatry, that I'm more, it's the more to be more

to be a apartment, and at this time that, I've had started to consume at at the

central of town, and I I've got to meet with people. There was a dealer who's in at home at home, so that I've

got a lot of consumed. I've seen someone who had never made that in my life, so I had a pair of the pekew

so he, he'd injected, all that, so I'm very much in psychos, I did

be very much of misculation, look, I'd be, I had a bando of indian, the bat of armie,

I'm 200, li, I was, I was, I was, I had an injustice, the color

in my and I'm beaten at some a little time at a city of

a second a night and I'm there's when I said it's the last I think

I'm never to turn to that I had put the the voice

in the arm a 22 he had been that I've been done

in 20 minutes that it had passed his journo the day

the end in the day of the day. In fact, I'm not very organized. I'm in... Yeah, it's sure. You're literally, you're in psychose constant because, now, what I said, what I said, you know,

I was like, no, I had a lot of color, but already, when you're in a console, you get, and then, you start to shoot, yeah. It's, it's an other buzz, so, so, the, psychos, it's attained directly the soul. I'm in, you're in

a, I'm in a group of people, there. So, yeah, I was really in detress I was remorse I got to go and then they're out of you're trying

yeah yeah I'm if you're if you consume in the center they're so they they're saying they

they're in a in a past already I've already had done with the guaddaway

and the chaw we're we're equipped for a quality but there yeah you're yeah

yeah yeah so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm gonna so I'm off So, like, the, the evocale, that I didn't know,

he had passed an deal with the Gourab. And then I was, whoa, whoa, whoa, we'll, we'll go and say, listen, he made passers out, they've got to say my language. So, so, now, I've seen, for the last year, in the years of 2001, 2002, 2001, I've known the center of detention of Cherbrook. There, I'm besieu for far as...

It's a provincial. Yeah, it's a provincial. Yeah, it's a provincial, but I've been, 20 months in prevention. In prevention, that's so. There, I changed

four times of a vocate. I've tried the fact also that I had been in psychiatry and I fete I fighted

many things. And, in fact, all the stuff I'm also, it's important to say that,

today, I've made to do much to be a better version of me so I'm so I'm

not fared of all that. Since, well, honestly, honestly, I've already I've already

I've got seen the crime and we we're talking in the fearty and I'm not in the

I'm not I'm really that you explain what you know what if you don't know if you're

not a psychologist because it's not what I'm I'm not I see I see I'm I'm like I'm

I'm hey de me it's a call I I'm I'm really like a mega

appellate a leg we're not not you don't know I'm going to say you're

Arrater. No, no, no. But you're just like, sometimes we're doing sometimes when we're talking about when we're talking about to help.

There, there's a lot of anti-socialal, I'm, I'm going to make, I'm even entrained, I'm going to

the mass, it's not too long. I've made of penitentiary up the other, he me know, so they're not

they're not in the population, you're not there's a lot, there were in there's a sector where's the people,

the people, to get, to the crime to do you? At my preventive, too, okay, So, like, I'm entrained, I go at the school also, there's a bit.

But it's what, finally, he'd offer seven, and it's what, you're saying? Well, it's so. It's, it's, I re-fed, I've had a two-moin-one-one. Okay, finally, you've got a two-moin-one. But, but, I'd say, in fact, I'd have recombing, I'd be a bit, I'd say, I'd have been a bit, I'd say, but I'd continue to have a bit of magoal, there, I'd have a bit of bough. I was doing the baboche

and I was a chef of sector and I was going to I'd rather to get a dope also. In the phone you've had

done your sentence, your chift had no? They're going to count it They're going to stop.

Well, so, okay. So they've just left to, they've got to calculate your preventive

because if you had been if it had just a two-moin one, you'd

be sent directly 20 months. It's I was going to, I called it, the villa, in Natalee, I thought it was a prison with what I had known. I'm going to, I'm going to say, that's,

it's, uh, I was going to do. It's, uh, I was going to do you know, the sector medium, but not medium, minimum, there was a putt, or not at the point, and it's, it's a little bit so, so, so I'm, so I'm out also, but I managed to me to find out of the prison. They've been, they've been out of the prison,

because of the magoo. Okay. I'm, you know, where's with the guys of Charbaugh, that certain descend on so you're a So you're

not a time of a conscience no, no, and in fact, by course, I'm saying,

what I'm doing what I'm doing this, he's a old, he'll go, and I'm going to be

going to be more a car of prison who's kind of he's kind of

he's done the time, and I'm make sure I'm trying to a lot of at the entire, and I'm

done a transfer administrative, but there's a good moment when I've lived at Sherbrook I've got

to have to have a impact. A morning I'm going to get a guy of a guy who's in the car, I'm

going to do a car, I'm going to have a lot of the time you could go and I'm my background

of guy of video, I said I'm going to do you know I'm doing the guy me regard so he's

he brings the gageur he brings the gageur so that there's It's still an interest to be

well, you go to go to get and you're going to you're going to you know, but you're always to make something

you know, you know, you know, it's a fool the pattern, but you're going to try to try to

to try to the top of your dad, you're good, you know, it's weird, what's what I'm

doing, I didn't nothing at course at my time, I said, I said me I've made

the lecture there that's, it's just, I mean, I'm the canteen, a canteen, a tart-o-suc, a little tap, I'm going to eat, and I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to gore and he said,

it's going to be, I'm going to docent. Now, I'm going to go to my photo of my fee, and I'll go to my chandelier, I'm saying, what I'm going to do. So, I'm going to do it, so I'm going to have a lot of rhythm because there had time of time of hour of course. You're a time limited to do, and then, you're a time limited to do it in

plus. So I've reached out to do, but he had to do, I'm going to get to be able to

with me. So it was like that's kind of a souvenir, and I had already written to

the time to say, I want, I want to do you have a course to do to give

to the things. It's had not not in prevention, he said, you know,

I can't not do you can't do you, you've been there, so I've been something in

my that I'm could be to talk to be talking to So, if there's

been a two-moin one of the agent of correction, I've said Marko, Chris,

there's a potential, I'm able to get to be in out of course, and I'm sorry, and I'm trying to, I'm doing,

a transfer administrative to Bordeaux, all the year, they've been transferred to Bordeau Sorrow,

after that I've got to Routonaut the road to LEC, as we've been to get to the population.

A moment of I've had to come to Bordoe, it was on dead I've metered a

We've been called her with respect with a madam of the agent correctional to make

she could do you know what I'm to do you know what I'm thinking to do I'm not

I'm able to that I'm going to be there for my daughter and she and she she're referring to

I'm in sure to I'm gonna I'm gonna to get the sergeant of the time that was

24 hour here my poulin if you you don't not your therapy, I don't want to go in my prison. You go to go to

see there. So, so, so if you know, I'm going to me everenry who'd be able to talk about the social, that he

had consumed, that now he danced, he had been evaluated, so I've had the way of changement, I've had access

of therapy, he's been to find the land of the he said, you can't you know, you can't

you know, you can't me, I'm to say, I'm going to call me to say, I'm sorry,

I'm going to I'm not sort of. But that's a test? It's sure that's a test. It's a lot of, it's open the door to say, you can't save, so if you're not,

it's because really you want to do it. But it's a little challenge, because you're in decision. So, I've been to try and then you're going to, I've been to 24, and at this time, when I was terminated my therapy, I started, I started a certificate on toxico, all.

And then, I've worked in therapy, plus the end of the time of the time, I've been in a five,

six years, and it's quite a lot of the valet of the dependence affective, so I'm

seeing in the relationship not easy. I've used my daughter that I

had been to be with me, so it's a great, after, after your

therapy, you're going to see a course in toxico and you try

that, and during the five six years, that you're really a real contact

with your with your contact that's that's that's difficult for for me

to have to do you to get to I'm with a new coofficer so I'm much more

so I'm really to make my wife and she has she has already five children,

so I'm I'm a school in my life like I'm like I know

in therapy I'm try to stov all this people and these people that are

in my life today it's there's your wife, or even the mother

of your say, you know, to live with, she, she's, at what age?

At the 14- at that time? At the she had not good, she had not that's,

so my family, so my family, she's, she had had been to be a

old, and she's, she'd to be in going to live at family, she's,

you're in with him with him today, so, so it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, I've trained in more, and that I, and that I train in more, to have abandoned to new. There's also the nascence of an other female who is present in my life, who's called Jad, who has given two beautiful little children,

who makes, who I prevoise much every day. And, but, but during six years, I've said that I, I've ceased the consumption, but a moment I've been solded the idea that I could reconsomely

socially I've got a conjoined who made know how to get to buy to buyneur that's

I'm going to have discovered your pastile to go at Sack and yeah, it's so

and I'm at a therapy it's all so I saw that I've there

where you were you work you're yeah yeah it's just just to

make the clear it's to but you know so

so that then I didn't find application where I'm where I'm

been there had been the chance. The family. Grigua, I've

worked with work. I've worked to continue to consume and but... But it's

that the part of that's the during five, six years, then you let you let the

door open to do the worst to think that you will be to control so you

have you open the red and it's it's a deboled because you're

over the door to have a cold, a cocan, a word a bit too a bit too

pack, will me make a little key, it will be to put in the pattern. So,

I've got been in the new I'm in a place, I'm still to have at the

house, I'm still at the but it's at the but it's not been with the

conjoin and we're a relationship, so I'm not there for blomber,

so I'm having on part of St. Francho, I've had been to come

to come and it again, my beau my business, my my life,

my, it was generous, but it was not a good decision. I'm not quite a few years. So, like, I was seacoved, seatoosur. So, like, I was arached at a coup d'clock.

I was, it was a good. But, like, when we arrived in the finishion, I was, it was just, it was not my plan. I mean, I said, what I'm doing? I'm romeysed in a little

village. You're going to? You're trying to get you to get to come? No, no. I, I'm going to when I was actually, actually,

um, the six years, it's when I returned to Verne, it's after some, and then the time show the deal. No, no, but that's just

to come. Because in the fact, you're conjoined, so it's, so when you're returning to see that's a

return to get to get to come back to get to see, that's true, that's true that I'm excited by my

family, and it's super beautiful, they've been there's because you've been six years,

yeah, I've lived in all, I, yeah, I've been doing the thing I was in the sector of Varenne, the

feet, and then, so, I just And then I remember my boyfriend, I'm going to forget my boyfriend. I'm going to have been an issue of course. For, I know what

he's going to putt in the logglement. He had to be petted on the house. Ah, the she'll go to do with your house. Yeah, the

main petted. So, I was working at Lowe, but I was not valorized. I'd say, my son, I'd tend to me

aid financially and then, then, I thought to go to, my friend, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my, one, one, one of my, one, one, one,

one of my my Fyke. And then, I've been in this point there. I'm not

too in my place, it's not to get rid of a bar, like, I'm sorry, I'm going to

get to consume, I'm up, and there was the vogue of stupiefiefing. There, the guy, there was a

gun, there, and I'm a, and I'm a minute, we've been to get,

to get some to get some to get to some of the things of, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, Also, I've lived a little

a little life, you know, there's there, today, I'm a little a little about,

I'm a experience, but I'm in the arts martial martial mixed. Okay. Later,

after my therapy, before I went to the RiveSoup on the internet, he was over

a set over with George St. and I, I've done after I'm doing journalists, the resources

exist. Okay, okay, so, so, we'd be the film fanatic,

the fanatic, so I've partured the province with a class, they've never

they've seen, they've seen, maybe the volet of the interiors by the way the point is that's, it's like to

get to be that's pretty much, it's, it would have been something to be, it's, you know,

I'd be not, the guys of the guys of the guys of Sherbroke, all, so I've made

to know, many of people, who are people, that's, there's, and I'm

sure, I'm the first that has made on interview at the airport, so, so I'm probably to

talk, I see that we're going to be limited. No, no, no, but it's kind of, you, I think, I think, but that's it in your moment clean, in your six years, and then you're bought to that. Yeah, it's, it's been a leader, you know, when I was young, and you're telling, you're telling, you're telling, you're telling, you, that I, you know,

that I said, you know, when you said, sometimes, when you're going to be, and then, you're returning, to where you come, and it's there that you're rechied, you. Yeah, I, you're reconno, at the time, the resosos social. I tried to see, you're at least, my world, You know, he'd say, I'd say,

my phone, they'd have to sound, the Regrettable to be able to call back, I'm saying, and then I'd say, I'd have a journalist,

not re-numerary, I had some there's, you had even a traductor that, you had made some, but, you know, I could not

live of that, so, like, at a moment of a time, because, me, when I I'd be able to my time,

I'd be able to see, I'm in near uprocer, the Rive Sud, so, so I'm close, to the school, at the St.,

and I'm in Averend in the solitude, that's famous bar, that, that I started to go in the gala, I had soofe in the rest of,

I had been able to be able to do you know, I even passed an review, I've made some articles of a review that

is very very common, but there the consumption had taken the decision, so I've quit the

river south to return to at Cherbrook so, so, for me to me approach to my

feet. You're part in a beautiful at a Sherbro, you're part of Cherbourg

Kling functional, and you're revenu to Sherbrook, more clean and more functional. And I met a friend,

and I've seen had gone to his friend in therapy, so I've got consumed a lot, and we, and we, and we were

a surveyor a lot, but I'm doing it, I'm trying to, I'd be able to turn to dozee, but it's a break, by the then we're going to offer a

post of a job where I'm to make to make and make up to make up and make a

meeting, even if we were in the center for we were in the reduction of we had kind of there's a reason

on the family, we've left the chance but I'm let's get to get in a moment

to get in a time, so it's there's a so I'm so I'm and I thought

I'm in love the way I had met up as a other conjoined who had had to be so they had

ended up a gram per day. You can't not be not at a moment I was

I was obliged to get to get to work to work I'm not able to get a

job at automation so so that I I'm I'm I've been

I I'm trying to but I'm still I'm quite I'm

feeling I was I'd go I'm grissed. I've been passed some of the tests. We've had diagnostique two maladies chronic.

There was a cirrus of the foe. I didn't even not that. I had a cirrus of the foe. And the diabetes. So,

that's there after having passed that, I've been consumed the days the days of the day, I'm

thinking, I'm to have to my own to me to get to my heart, I'm sorry, I'm finished,

I'm finished. And I'm been consulted, and I've returned to to work, but I decided to

go to work and do you make a course of because there's a point in the poisey, but I'd never a sentiment

of liberty, you always, we'd always, we'd not that for the good things, it's not, the bad things,

it's not for the money, and I was decided to go to carry in a cemetery. And then I was going to do that, and I'd say, Chris,

I could be with others, I'd like, I'd say, I'd be We'd also... Like an intrue

because I'd have enjoyed the family that were not in their person of they'd

see what I'm sure that's that's so that's so that I'm so that's

feeling of liberty and I had a friend that was that I had been

the idea to make a disc the same I'm fifty-eight five and about 53

years I'm probably I'm going to a ten minutes in forty

You don't know to go, you don't be going to that. Yeah, well, you know, I've

heard of these years, I'm with this passion that to go to go to

the same the morning to be in the room of hotel isolated to paranoia. The

narines so yeah, and then this Mr. and then that's

eventually to make a marathon. And then he he said, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's a road of the redemption. It's has been

something. I think that's it's weird I see, I see, I see, I see, every time you know, and at each time,

an amount of emotion, it's, it's really on some different, but I see, I get through and I, you know, I get

frisones, because that you talk to a marathon, and I understand, the sentiment that's done, and to have

the emotion that it prokeur, to have, to have a view. Yeah. You, you know,

you're a guy who has been to do that, you're to fix it. It's clear. It's clear, and I'm very well placed for you to understand.

When I have an idea, I'm going to talk to all the world because if I'll say it's a lot, if I'm going to get to just for me my idea, I'd do not. But I'm talking to all right.

So I'm not sure. So I'm in person you're trying to say that in my life also, my father had been more present, maybe I'd have a relationship with my friend,

but there's people who are presented on my route, it's debentor, they're representing a bit my father, my friend. So this person

now, today, Eric he's called, and at this time, he was in not in

a errand of work, he'd had been a day of abatat, he's a man who's a little bit, he had

been able to say, oh, he's been a man, he said a guy who has nothing to know

to see of these person and he and he was very of the person

and he he's he's not he's not he's not he's not on the time he

he's he's maybe he's said often he he's He had the corret, but he'd

a tempete this day that was the time at the timepette of the United, so at the

image of my life, I did go to courier in the time, he said, if you do you

do you do do you do time, you're doing, you're doing in America of the United Boston.

So, the defeat is even more big so, we've got to gore the morning,

and then he was to goate to me, and he he'd gore quick at the

I was the end of the end of He said, Mark, oh, you push the machine. Finally, I've reached, at my age, to carry a marathon in 3 o'clock, which is quite very good. There's a very respectable,

and I'm qualified for Boston. And that's been, and all the long, he said, Marko, T'O, T'Ot an T'Ot'n'clock, so, it's a sentiment of liberty, this course, lor. I've made a conference after, that, for demanding, pardon, my

my female. The Cours Appi has made part of my life. There's a other volet

that I've to talk also, I'm not about the course, but I'm very important. There's a

conference also where Cet to get to get a money for my organism. I've asked my

kids. My organism. Partache Franco. Okay, the organization for the

job at who is aft of abrie, who has insertion. I'm I'm trying

to refus and I climatic now. I represent the support for them.

So, so the view of the conference that to say, to express to express

to say to get to save the life? Yeah, because at the moment that she

not have not seen to be not so. So, so, message of support,

and there people, there's plenty of people who are really, I'm sorry, to have an invitation,

a person, a person, a garden of a prison, you know, you've been to sit with you,

it's, it's not, attention, a casherbook, he had made out of the prison. I mean,

I've got to make some of the time in life, you have to put to be a car to put it to be to be able to that I've made,

that's a demand of that I'm doing, that's a question, that's a other, if he's not, I think I'm

going to be not, he'd be not a bad boy in his prison, and it's a man, he's been to

he's been to my conference, and I'm able to he'd say, hey, thank, you, you know, you're not,

but, What you've for me it's a because you had already said that you've got

to know that's not that's it's sure that's a little he said that it's important

for me to make to make a question of my manned been a didn't I'm

and my my my my my my but it's it's

easy to ask to it's very it's but you know

there's probably probably that never they they're they're they're

they're part of a little more of my female, I'm a little bit more my more young is, she's very old, she's very good,

but we're not very good, she's not quite, because she's she'll have been to be able to be so, so I'm not saying, hey, she

doesn't know, I'm not here, I respect there in the door she, she, and she she's an open, when she's

she's been ready to get her. I've had been with her, and, you know, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she had been because she, she, she, she had been different in her life. She said, she was fed

to judge. Well, she's on got to be surety for her. And other people, we're talking of family, my mother,

well, you know, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's a old for me. But, there,

in the life, it can be very to be doing, I've done, I've done, I'm doing, but, you know, there's a

moment that's more difficult, and, you, and, you, but you're, but you're, you can't be able to

, you're not, the U.S. , the U. The United you want to They're

not to give a pardon of sick, and even not, I'm not not used

by the amount to pardon it's not it's a I'm saying I'm I'm doing it like a

waiver so that's a waiver, it's but even with a waiver it's not it's not because of

it's that's humanitar but it's it's trained like a for Boston

I'm got to I'm got to my son of Florida first first time

I'm from from course it's it's pandemic, it's declared. I've got to have been to have been, so the rave to Corrie Boston, finish.

So, I'm coming like, I'm like, you know, Chris, the view, it's that with me, it's the word. At the point, I don't know

to get to whatever, never I'm ever I'm going to be a little time, I'm trying to get to turn. Tapes at the time,

yeah, by course, I've made the shot to not go to get to persevere, so there, I've been

decision, to be a to have to be in the world. Bravo. Well, that's it's a there's a step that's not, you know,

you're not, you're not a step of franchise because normally the facility, my life, my life, it's always going to

be doing that so, but being done to be done to be defunce, you see, but there, I've been

to come to get to a little the pandemic. I've decided to gore in a 100 kilometer in

in Cherbroke to go to go to go to get the other I'm doing the other who people, I'm trying to

get to some of an trainment for that. So I've seen I've got to have an endurance You know,

A bull, you know A cell You're gonna be me to see in a chair, and I'm sorry that I'm not I'm sure not

I'm sure I'm gonna more more, and I've got to go to until I'm to get to some of the

people who've done some of some people who who do you do not I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing

I'm not I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be that's a car manned in certain centers

he's, my mother, she had visited, the centers of detention, the therapy, the office that's been

there's a not, she's just she, in the same, she, in life, she,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, the law

of the time, the law, of her and she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she, and the most, the,

I think, I've been, , we've been, we're, we're, of, ,

we're, But, I've been in his village where'skeye-nay-nay-nay, and I've been, my side is the frontier, the same, but I could not be traversed. I've got to be able to

to get this time. Yeah, I had my waiver, but I said, I was trying to sit here to find out of Sainteophil, and I said, my mother, rest at longuegey, I'm going to gore

and gore for a minute per year, for going to put to get to the genus. By year? Yeah, on his balcony, at my rest of it.

And he'd I was asked, pardon, and he's lost to what he's what he's going to be easy to gore, so it's almost, I'm not, I had, can't even my co-te-creative, I had to go to four, five hours, so I've got to rallyed the people around me, I just had to force there,

and I've been, and I was on the tomb of my grand-mer that I'm going to have been a $5.5.00, I said, I'd be an beer with that. So, I went to a genoo, I've made a detour in a village. There, I'm descended, All the street.

For, like, you know, a bit of you know, to have done that's five or the, that's my

grander. No, but it's that, but I'm, but I'm a red at your mother,

it was just for by principle. It's a same, so we're going to me the force to pass to

travel. And, and I got to come and I met back a few hours during my

course, and I had to rammed $5,000 for the little for the different.

For the little the few They're just the person aged. Okay, I'm sorry,

because I'm talking to be the person of the same, okay, so they're so they're so,

they're not by the malavit form, but the real, the real motivation is to arrive

at a house and my mother, and I had gone, and the time I'm a little

like in the tempest of my life, I'm too, my nutrition, if I got on

without without my cell, I'm moved to have seen, in a cabbana the cabb, they've been

had been in the few. My cousins were there. After that, I've pursued my

route. It's been three years and I'm a longueue. A good moment with my friend,

at the end I was a time of the because I had been quite of me, because I had a lot of that I'm

suffering a interiorly. I'm saying, if I'm going to make a to get to be at

a knee and I'm put to what I'm to ask you want to ask you to ask you to

ask you to ask you it's a a grand moment for me. And, and then in the course at the

foot, I've heard of my endurance of the course of the whole to be a trajectory of 6.69 kilometers. In fact,

my life to be a sportive, I've made a journalist underground with the combat

the team, I've after had to have to a football, a hockey.

The course at my car's at my made to realize a life of in the offense. I've

made a course of the course where you have to do you have to have a year to do you're in you're going to

the game of this course that's the last man who rest debuts, I've been with the athlete of high-nive who

who've done from the CEP, who have made the iron men. They've not not done 100 km per day or

during three days. Yeah, but these guys are these guys are they don't do do you don't know,

but they're doing you your mindset? In fact, what has permit also to realize my

life, it's really the suffering. At a one of a minute I'm

at a time, you're don't to work to work all the time,

and I had someone that's he was not really he was not really

he was not he was and he was a game of a point of

a man day, it was he's sure he's certainly that's sure that's

a lot now that I'm now that I'm with a 42 hours. He has gained,

because, like, after 42 hours, I've assured my place on the team Canadian. So I've represented the Canada. So I'm parted

in avion, to BC. We're at the 15 Canadian. I was classed 75th-major to world with this course

that in 2022. And the people of the course of qui. In 2022, it's not four years, you're fin-

50-10? Yeah. In this course that, it's not like Boston, or what's it's

be of the categories of age of the age of the young. So, like, I mean, I suffered totally, I had a little bit of the same to march. I had a little bit of life. I said, Chris, these girls, have suffered.

You know, you're able? You'll loggra not. So I'm pushing all the time, machine. So it's just, it's all right, so it's all right to come to, and after that, to come in a year and a minute

more record, 53 hours, who is detenue at River of Loo at 40 degrees. of chalage, I pushed the machine, again, again, in the gross

suffering. So, I represented the Canada for a second time. So that's, it's something of valorizing for me. It's been

doing, but you have been doing, it had to find a mal again. Yeah, the last competition,

I'm more really, because it can't make a bad. So, if you can't,

it's something that, I'm inscribed for a course, which is called the master the year,

I mean, I've made 28-hour the last time, But I think I'm still capable. My rest is to go to Tennessee.

That's 80 hours. So, but, you know, it's a little mindset that I used also of my infancy,

you know, you've got to to return to the house because there have some to get to my feet,

to take it. The first I have five minutes to be done to I'm in and I repusied,

he me and I'm doing the table in the door at example? Yeah, yeah, I'm

there, there's a, there, you know, I've been on on the same, I've been with it, and I've said, and there's a question that's going to with with that because I'm not

well, because that's not much to make a lot, it's not much, is it, is it does it in the sense, it's not because I've been

to make a mal, or because it's not enough to or it's because you're not because you're not I think I'm more, I think,

I'm not, also, to be coming a courier to, I can't use the mindset, but to, to be the three last

course I've abandoned when I was at St. Marko where you think it

to think to get in the end of the time to have to have been to make a problem,

but I think that your performance be more because you don't have to have to make a

and you respect, you respect your and you respect to your respect to

your part of I mean, it's to say to give to nothing to be a

thing that no, I'm being an ambassador now I'm I'm

I'm trying to demonstrate to The example also it's for the health is for the safety.

It's sure that's a course of it's a great of a thing that's a repress of repris,

and I've met quite people in the middle of the course at the court of a prison

who had been over a penit and I had been a few a few last time

to be it had not not been not let the place you're not to the carl

so it's the best many with the police also in my I'm in the city, I'm a lot of course because

because I've been 24 hours non-stop in courting, I'm a little bit of 15, 20 minutes of post, and I'm romew, and I'm romew, and the police, they've been to go in the front of that, so I go to central city, and the police he doesn't go up after me, so he's he's called with the courer, so I'm, and I'm working with the policiers in itinerance,

who are more there, not for dene contravention, but for retrieving the solutions, the policians in the sentent mental. So, actually, I'm in charge of a refuge, So I try to transmit the support to the people of the that's possible to have their lives,

they're really and they're in those guys who are kind of, they're in fact, I know that have not the chance to get to

get a chance to get to do but maybe to have a liberty kind of interior at the interior and it's to find a certain

bonner and say that they're kind of they have some of they they're doing the world and it's not the

man, and have you have you tried the bonner? In this moment, yes, I think I'll have they tried

By I'm I'm often what is difficult is to accept it also, it's present

in my in my life accept to get to get to that's that's not a

rapport with that's I'm not I'm not I'm a man who's I'm you know

it's a addiction also the course we've we've talked we're talking we're

having we're talking to stuff because we've talked to we're talking to we're often we

have to an addiction for one other, but it's not to become mal-saint, for example, because even if you're hey, the course, you know, it's good for the health, yes, but like, you say, oh, man, eat as you know, man,

you know, I'm going to get a kilo of carot per day, it's not, even if the carot, it's good for the health a manning, you know, there's a limit to, you know, to find a just equilibrium, you know, to accept, you, just, your limit, and, you know, to do it, you know, to do it, you know, and if you're able to

be able to do it, but you're able to find out, Well, we'll be a... We'll have a... No, but you're going to have a young who will be able to be there for the epilet, and you're... I'm trying to go to get in this vision that. You know, even when you're not

that, that, well, that, at Charbourg, will be maybe even after there's still people who are to get some money to know of Marco Poulin. You know, and you part of that. And, you know,

and of your, part of what you're in, you know, and, you know, in these courses, I've been to search so, a lot of energy, but it's very demandant.

I've made a bit of depression also after. Not major, but, you know, you're going to search too long. After that, you say, oh, that's what I'm going to search plus. So, I think that actually it's the adaptation in the simplicity,

you know, in the things, same, of the life, the little bonner, the tranquility, the peace, is what I research a lot of my life

actually, so that's... Your more and in your life regular, and all, she has, she has 203

years, and I have two, two, little little, little, so your grandpapa, yeah, yeah,

yeah, and, Eva Rose, who are there, and I'm going to be there. I'm very proud of being there. I'm not going to be there for Jessica, but I'm pretty present for my little daughter, she has been with the travel

social. She's always, she'll have to be often I rackroche the line, she'll be, she'll be, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, I'm encouraged a lot,

in my objectives, to sport, you. You, I hope, and, honestly, I'm going to I do often because it's

because it's arrived and I'm a car in a particular but this podcast that

has rapproached some people, have approached the family and if Jessica that

it's excuse not your non presence but maybe she will understand she will

be able to know she and why is it is that you have an

an approach a bit more a bit more more I'm a But, she'll understand a little bit who's been,

you know, I don't know at what you have a lot of her time, where you've talked about your whole of your

but she has not like that. I think, I think, to be able to see, to be able to that you know,

that's the photo that's made there, I think, if she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she has, she has, she has, she's, she's, after I'm, she'd be able to be able to

see a bit because, because Chris, we can not, we can, we can ,

your love for your children in this episode there's there's person there's there's that's not

there's not the best there's not the can't that's that's you know, I'm doing that

I've got to do some bit of some people who will be who will be there who's

I'm gonna be sure I'm sure I'm to be a better version of me and

you're you're sure, but you know the train of the bonnour he's

passed often in my life and it's it's been beautiful, my father, and my father, I get his photo, every morning,

I look at least, and I'm afraid of my photo, I'm aware of my friend also, you know, I've done, you know, I'm responsible, and then, and, soon, the train has passed, and I'd embarked in, but I'd shoot at, all right, this image, that, because the inco-cunu, the fear of the incarceration, the road, the taxicomani,

sometimes we're there, and we're in life, we're in survival, it's what we know, but what is difficult, it's the after, and it's for so that my cheminement

it's long, I've been to be able, I think, I think, I think, I think,

I think, I think of, I think a day where's there's never too time.

Never too time. Never too time. Never, too too, never,

too, that's important that the people know that's never too long, never too time.

Never be the bra, and never commit an gesture irreparate that will a solution,

permanent, a problem temporary, it's never a solution, you know, and I'm in a lot of, like I'm like to conclude,

the person who are usually people who see often the people, they're in their history, and they're

reprised, the persons of identity of gender, racist, all I'm opposed to that, so I'm trying

to help, so I'm trying to to aid these people. In fact, what does a sense to my

life, it's really to help the people, because I'm to be, I'm atue, the pain

interior, you could to have to have to be in the activities. But, there I'm going to work and I'm going to quit my employ all right. For the instant, what he's not, I'd say,

not in life, but I'm a passionate of the intervention, and if I aid not, I'm not, I'd say, I'd have not the flound at all.

So, I'm banshe, and I'm banshe, and I, try with the people who are with the intervenants who are diplomé, and, they don't know,

what I've been, so, so, me, the people, the people, the, the, those who are the more poli,

he's the more violent, he's the most, I'm going to I want to search, I want to go to go out of the position with them, I'm going, he's going to be the people,

turn the hand, and maybe to be able to say, if I, so I, I, I like, I, I love to them

because I'm suffer of the changements, I'm going to consume and now, they're in the loggents.

Marko Pooley, he has come to represent his country, the Canada, but it's not to be done to the world physically. I've got

kind of de jane for that. So, the real, the, the, the, the rest of, yeah, but not obliged to

go to get to do. You know, say, each, each combat, each objective of each person is

different, and we do, and you, you know, and you, the more, the more, the,

the more, the, there's nothing than a , you know, to be a man'clock, you know,

you've been, so, you can't , you know, you can't, you can't, you're not placed for to judge

who's, So it's it's It's It's worth It's I'm I'm just

I'm just I'm sorry I'm gonna But after that famous Curso when you're When you're At least

She's She's like You're Excheus, your pardon You know I'm gonna Yeah

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She's She's She's She's She's She's She's She has

She has She has She has She's She's I see. I live actually actually, my wife, like me, she's probably, she was ready to

get to get in the auto. At a time, she'll be able to go to auto, and she puts the machine. I'm just in a teteu. You know, at all the beginning, golf, and all that had to part of it, you know, I'm just, I'm not. I'm not going to have to have

to have the entranors, I'm going to put it more. I think she's a year that with her. We're going to understand. We're a bit, your coat, intense, of this part, that, came to your mother.

I'm a ferted. I'd probably, really, for conclude, I think that when we we're going to get to see a way to be in

different to change the environment, to meet with people, and I'm my encounter with you're super

positive, I'm not there not, I'm not not going to not a new spiritual, but I think of at this table

that it will be to be some of people, and it's that will be the trico

that can be anything, it's, you know, it's not some of the pattern that you're really,

you're hyper inspirer, Marko, really inspiring. You've been part of the person that I've received who's in a barnaque, you know, there's a bit more,

there's a lot, you know, there's a certain moment of your where you've been chasteur that the limit, the life has

made in sort that's not not been too long to but you've all to recal and you, in fact,

you're in fact, you're in a couple of times, but, justly, the important, it's not the

number of chute that you do, it's, it's that you're able to be to re-re-re-re- and to be able to At every time you, you know, you know, you've been to push it more

long. You know, I've been to stay in the day, I've been to stay, you know, I've got to say, you know, and I say, it's so. So, and I just want to stay, you know, to say, you have to be able to retain it. It's a day for me. And, you know, and then, you, and then, you, pay attention to you physically,

because I'm an impression that if you're blessed seriously and that, you can't scourri or, you know, there's, you can, you're doing dangerous for yourself. Yeah, I, I understand. So, do you know, so, do you feel attention. If you want to use the body, make attention, my show.

I'm going to go to go to work. I'm going to gorear. I'll return to Boston because I realized Boston by the suit. I've realized my rive. But now,

I've got to go to VIP, because I've got to a second- I've got to to go ahead. I'm going to use my pass. Well,

go ahead. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I'm just

to reproaches that. I'll just have to wrap up. I'll just talk to you. Okay. I'll just. Inspiration, I think there's not a better word than that. You're a parkour,

and we're seeing, we're seeing, not your pen, I like, I hate that when I'm in the world of mine, but you know. The French, or? Yeah, in fact,

it's more your resilience, it's, you know, your regret, we're saying, the word regret, I'm trying, we know, we say,

you know, I've said, I've made to do it, but we're not feeling, that you're not coming to talk to,

you, We're really that probably I think that the person that's made the most of the most of the time I'm going to

turn to in area with what I'm trying to I'm trying but in the time, you know, you've made what you've

done what you're in the time and I don't know what you're not what you do you for me, it's

that's the fact I'm not that the victims that you're on the we're not and we're

we're not we're not but it's just the fact that we we're that you can't

you're I don't know, in fact, yes, I'd say, a minute, your father, you know, he's not been there's not,

you know, but he's there's been there for the bad reason, he's not there's not a matter,

you've put your own, you've made your own, but I respect, just that you assume all that, and for me,

it's a great proof of courage, and a maturity, to assume, and to regrette. So, and bravo for what you

do you do, for what you do do you do after, and I'm that you're not finished, no,

No, I'm not finished. Well, thank you. And I'm sorry, you're sure in some of these objectives of life, your life, your rave at you, your bus. It's aggrandi. We're going to. We're going to work.

I'm not. I'm going to, we're going to be. And we've got attained, and I'll stop. Because as time that I want to see that there's a place, and I'll have some people who will give me a feedback

of what it, and the importance of what it in their life, for me, it's at the base number one of that. And we continue like that. And it's a problem like you.

This project that exists if there's not if there's not a project. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I hope

you have been inspired by Marco who is inspiring who is an parkour we've seen, we can't each parkour is different and each person

can us inspire to his fashion and I just do you feel really part of the person that I think really really inspiring that I'm sure.

Thank you. For the Rourourne. A production of Studio SF.