Au Parloir - Épisode #108 - Brigitte & Samantha

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

Dans cet épisode, Brigitte se livre sur un passé marqué par l’horreur : agressée s3xuellement par son père de l’âge de 10 à 17 ans, puis, des années plus tard, attaquée avec sa fille, Samantha, lors d’une retrouvaille familiale qui a viré au drame. Tentative de m3urtre, blessures profondes… et en 2017, l’impensable : son père obtient sa libération conditionnelle. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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I'm Bridgette and Samantha, who are a mother and her female. Other the fact that they're their wife, they have a other point in common. They're victims, victim of the same bourgeois,

who is the father of Brigitte, so the grandpair of Samantha. And I'm, I'd treat of burrow, because probably you'll have to have you'll have to have you also want to say this word that, and it's even like that the journals

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Brigitte Samantha I've been attention I've been a lot so thank thank you thank you

to have made the route you you've been to come to where you have made you've done

you've done you've done the road so I appreciate I'm going to I'm going to differently because I'm

always with one an evicted, it's rare I'm two, so with all of his parkour, but in fact we'll do it because we'll start with you, Brigitte,

because in the thing, well, the thing that you're being in part is that you're a man and a fee, but it's not for

that you're not for that you're that, is that you've been a situation that is relied to your so that I'm

going to come with you a because I think we'll understand a little kind of character. And if you

feel, while I'm if you're there's a time, if you have the problem, Coup of the

Parole, and then, and it's that, we're going to arrive to you, we could be just

on that, but I'm really, you know, the parko, and I think, you've said, I've said,

I think it's quite that's important also for that we're so, so I'm going, I'm going,

so, You've got your father in your life? Yeah. Well, it's the progenitor, when I do this year. Okay, okay, okay. But,

since I'm at my most young age, at a part of the age of two and a half, I remember that I was sitting on the toilet in a puppy,

and that I had been pre in photo. Okay. But, but it's all new, I just, I just felt like it's not

bad, so at a moment of a time, it came, after that, a moment of some time, some little

little, little, little, little little little parole, leton, but it's all I don't know. I've never

to say, to the aggressions, well, the attrishments sexual, he was obliged to do it to do you,

and if it's a time, we're going to get a little drive on the train on and I'm going to be

a little bit of a lot. Oh, you can, the quantity of the sacri that you can't,

you can say at a pretty what you in the PDAQ he's got demonitized on YouTube, but I'm

not, it's not my priority, my priority, my story, I don't know that you're not to put to put you

I was going to be masturbate for that I learn eventually to do you know, I'm going to get to go to

get to get in the carrieg of the car, you know, I'm going to get in my way to do the vessel. And you're

well, you can't, you're well impregned, you're well, you're, yeah, yeah, because

I've seen some of the very young that I've learned that that's not normal, that's not

a man that that's a human should have done, you're saying, you've been to mention

your mother, your , your mother, are conscious? No. She's on doubt or she'll

She said Well, she said, But no, she's But no, she's But no, she's She's not She's not

So, So, So, you can't You can't You can't You can't You can't

You know, I'm sorry to do To have to do To have No, no, I'm not

the right to call my my mother, my wife had not to be able to my mom had been in

my mom had been in my mom had been to be in my mom had to be in she said, she said

she's on peace Is that you, today, maybe more, because at this time you know, but is there

the relation between your father and your mother, was a second, no, no, no, no, no. Violence,

vulgial, tentative of murder, agression sexual, even more, I've seen all, I'm going to

do this affair. Okay, even, you're young when you're more, yeah,

so your mother, it's the first victim. Oh, whoa, it's a perver, narcistic,

car and man, So when you say she had not the right, it's because he let's not a choice. She had

not a choice. Is it you could say because, you know, because, you know, because the podcast is

an skiled, you're not the first that's been, and I, I, I'm, I'm,

I'm better the victim than, than I'm to be an of my inveter, it's an

victim, and she said, and she said, it's obscaded by her. Is, that you felt also

that there had an obsession on you? Yeah. And not just on me, on the cousins. I've seen seen some,

it's, okay, that's a, it's a, it's really a generation a generation, you know,

the, the, the uncles, also, between them, the cousins, and the cousins, and they,

see, to be in their, okay, is that, is that, is that, is that,

is, is, is it, is, is, is, is, it,

, You have not... I have any of the same. Because, my grandparent is deceased of young and then I'd not a baby my rammed paternal.

Okay. You've got to be there's a bit of maybe there. There's maybe maybe if she has been able to be able to

do that. It's not that I guess. I'll say, it's a pattern that's often that are repeated especially in

these old generations that. Corremant. It's malorreusement that I've heard of grand parents who are

more there. We can learn things, sometimes when our grandparents quit, and you say, oh,

Ben, God, I'm glad to learn to once he's dead. I'm sure because when he's dead

I'm not going to have to be but I'm sure that's sure she'll have to what to say, and then

six, seven so that I'm not a year, he's not he'd he'd he'd

be, after that, when I'm after the family, I'm just with my cousins, my cousins, my cousins,

and I'm or even more than the cousins. And if she's chappened, you know, that's a lot of, you know, we're talking about,

we're saying, we're talking about, you know, to call, you, all the people, you know, to, you know, it's,

it's so, it's true, because it's rare that I've received a victim of a person. No. It's an emin,

you're identified, it's been , it's like, it's so, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, So, you know, you've got to, you know, you've got to do with, you know, you're isolated, so, so, so, so, when you know, he's not, so he's got at a table, you know, and he's a soup of family, and he says, but it's not, but it's not, Chris,

let's play with his cousins, let's all the players with his cousins. No, they're all they're still with his own. When I said, it's a result of pedophily, the family, it's a result of pedophily. So, so, you, listen, listen, I, I'm going to say, Chris, I'm had said, the chance, there's zero chance there in. No, no,

but you will understand why I'm going to say that, in the fact that your fact that your was the fact

that you didn't want to play with the other, is you think that it has been more to be more

of the other than, you know, I don't know at some point it's, it's a galaous,

it's the maybe to me to me, but is is he's passed to the family, you know,

or everyone should be to keep to their Properes infants? Well, excuse me

the terms I don't know how they're but it's partage Yeah, yeah, it's partage

the children. Corremant it's coromerement, it's and we talk

to, I'm not, I'm let's, let's, we're not we're on 70,

no, I'm 19, okay, debut 80s. Okay, debut 80,

yeah, I, I, I wanted, I, didn't, I, I'd

I'd want, I'm, I'm, but, but, okay, So, okay, excuse me, I'll let's...

But, so, so, so, at a moment of a day, you can't have a man, you know, an infant has a reason to watch her, but, I can't have to be able to have your own, your own, your own, your own. You don't know, don't know how much your emotions, and you're trying to become more and more frequent, and, you know, it's really the masturbation just to the ejaculation, so, that, you know. Before to enter into the house,

well, it'd be reprimed a couple of the little, the tight in the rind, for not that my eyes are red, it's been to be able to not try the attention of my

mother. You know, manipulator, and it's like a fair in the barcelail, like you play,

while you do that, I imagine. Well, yeah, because I, I don't, but,

you know, no, no, no, even when when when I was a force, to start,

to be embarked in the pickup, it was, it was, I was, I said, I said, I said,

I said, what's, I'm, what's the, it's, The parents do they do so their their feet.

It's because I love. You know, it's the manipulation but it's it's like it's not normal

that's not we're going to we're going to because you don't know at this moment that but the

reason to the question is because you're you've you've you've lived

exactly the same a little a bit but yeah but yeah but

I'm there you're You said, you know, so the cousins also, a manned, in his, in so, you know, in his , you know, I'm saying, you're... Well, it's because there was a slack at me to have made, of his part, of surveillance, to, you get, and, you know, he's been at all, I imagine,

there's a lot more, more than, you, it's going to be, at least, 11, a moment of a moment of the day, you know, I'm not, you're not going to be able to, you're not, but it's, but it's, it's excused to anything, it, but, you know, yeah, it's a lot, but, you know, it's a way, it has brus my, my, my life, my life of youngess, he has scraped in a bout to the other.

But I don't know at a moment of the time of course with the cousins and some of the cousins, if you're not going to be because I'm going to be a lot of the other day, if it's all right,

it's always super well in the eveye but all of a sudden if you're someone who said, well, it's correct that I'm going to you're going to denounce because when I had six certain,

the DPJ in this time he called. And then he said, yeah, we're doing, we're doing, we're going to be to meet at X-place,

except for the 45 minutes of route where you go to go, but this 45 minutes of route, we're going to get a carlvan in the auto, but when you arrive there's...

You're going to be a voyole, he's not, we're a little family, everyone is because he's point not,

he's going to a rendezvous? In this time, he knew a rendezvous and we gave a rendezvous, but it's in the same,

but it's in the same, but it's in the time. Fortunately, it's been it's been a million, they're, they're

a little tannie that I'll retap that's a head on the podcast No, but it's it's not

it's not, you know, we, we're, we're, we're, we're talking very

very often negative of the DPJ on the podcast. Because because the stories

of the people who are negative and it's for the most the time, the stories

that date to do years, I'm made by the interview, and I'm and I'm and I

know, because they me'll say, it's not it's not, it's not, it's not,

Well, what I'm I'm saying, I mean, I say, I relate the stories. I mean, I mean,

I have an history which is sensationalal, which is very belle, I've adopted the children of

the deputies, you know, for me, but, you know, the other who I've been in the DPG,

you know, I've never been in a dossier in a family, in my family, in my family, in my family

a little more enlarged, let's see, so, so, so, but it's all,

it's all, it's so, So the years, in the time, it's, it's new, a little, even the DPG. I think it was, I think, it would have been, it's not a decade. There was something that existed, but it was not the DPG, there. So you arrive here, you're all, and no, no, it, it's all right. It's all right. It's all right.

It's all right. We're all. We're all. We're all right. That's what you're obliged to say. Yeah, it's so. Because you'd say, look, in this moment, what I see, in this moment, what I do you see,

in Christ, and if he's in Christ, That, he'd do you do with... Oh, no, no, we're going to be a lot of, no, no, we're going to be

pasted in New Blanche, young, to be able to with the arms of a few, the fusage of that we're

talking about, but I've been very much, and terrified the thing, and you said, he's a batterian,

so it's a violent at the base, not just with you other, it's a... Violent, too,

too, too, too, co, do co, boasts? Yes, yes, it's sure. It's just so, there's a pattern.

But, It's sure. I'm all right. Well, look, I know. I know. I mean, viola person, no. So, you know, it's just that I, I saw the pattern. I, you know, I'm douted that, you know.

In your corner, you know, one's in our family, and it's not. No, no, I don't doubt. I just know. And then. And then, you

become adolescent, or is that normally you discover your car, your sexuality, adolescent, that you've not you've got not to discover

your it's your your relationship because, you know, he's not he'd let's not approach to the cousin and cousin

but Chris you have to get at the school? Yeah, I'm going to have to have a little bit

and I'm not even because I didn't know because I'm more in the shit than than the other

other things. But it does not try to don't know I mean, I imagine the man

and the penis is Christ's not not something of positive in your no, no, no,

No, even young, I remember. I said, Christy, we're going to virile lesbian. You know, you know, you're going to get to what? I, I understand. No, no, no, no. I'm, no, I'm, it's like, it's traumatized. You know, I mean, you know, I'm from the more young age, and, you know, I'm saying. Tareve you to be a man, too, even, functional, in the sense, school, am, am I, you, no. Ami, you know, no. I'm a little bit, let's say, rejected. You know, if it's the

Poogeoose or the crotty and the things of the same it's the intimidation entre and finally so we've not, it's a richist

no, so it's not so it's not. But I'm aloyne to my little friends. And at

what it comes to change because I doubt if you're a, if you're a minute

there's something there's there, you know, there's you, you know, there's you, you know, there's a point,

you know, there's a moment where's you're, In as an adolescent or young adult, that's not a lot of sense, you have to be able to put it in,

you know, or not, you know, but in the sense that, Chris, we need to be this woman, that. In the same time, you have you the power to, I can't let my mother, all, the extent.

I'm saying, today, I will save my mother. And, again, today, my mother, it's my heroine, it's all for me. You're still in life, so,

so, me, in my time, that it's saying my mother who, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know, no, no, no.

I mean, I'm sacrificed for my mother. What's the, if we can ask, I, excuse me, sometimes,

I'm in my question, and I'm, I'm a little , you know, I'm a little bit , you know, I'm a curiosity to that,

because for me, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know, that's, you're a person, so, I'm,

so, I'm, Chris, I can't even not conceiv, it's what the person, if you live in the fear of the violence

or of the aggression? All. Tut, all, because at 11-year-old, you know, if you had been a sexual,

penetrable, you know, one, you know, it's not, you know, it's a, it's a moment of the time,

there's, it's a lot of adolescence, at a few times, and when he had arrived at the bar, well, the first thing

that I could see if it he would not attack my mother because he blasted Mamma for a, you know, a violent. He'd say, he'd say he'd say that, and he'd thought, so he thought that my had been wronged, even if he'd be in a house, not a car, but he'd be able to imagine that,

so, he'd return to the house, and go to my mother. It'd give me a good idea. So, that, I'd go, I'd say, I'd have seen, like, I was counted, like, I was, I had two guard-de-room in my chamber, and I was in the front of the guard-de-rope, and one, you'd have to try with me, the manned,

it's at the head by the shoe, he was to try, he's got, he was out of my rache, my bed,

myrache a jacket, envis it, thank you, goodsoor, I'm afraid. It's a question, that's,

so, so, that I'm, that I'm, you know, I've been in violence, I've been,

in the, in the, I'm in the, on the part of the part of the , you know, the,

the pack of suicide also, yeah. What's you say? Well, I'm, you're due,

I'm going to after? Because he he was at a moment a when I when I was

when I was to get there was a control to me at age of 33 and I'm

I'm not you're not you're trying to do you do it or you're the same the same

the same they were we're after. He had a plan he he said

I was I'm going to I'm so long as long time that I'm to be

on me to be on me to be on me to he He had always been able to deviate the justice. But the justice has loratraped. That, it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.

It's clearly, malorreusement, that's clear. Because you me talk to you when you're in front, and so you've got to be it. Yeah, because what I've got more aimed, is that there was always a control to me, even after, when I was out of the house, he said three, four times per year

that anyone, who can't let's say, I go to know, I'll know, I'll start, I'm going to say, and it's all the time, and it's all the menace, It's like that. Because, that, it's not nothing to

rest in the advance, and I think we're not quite a lot if you're to hear if you're

not going to I'm going to I'm not, I think, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm trying.

But, but, you know, is that, you know, he'd say he'd say a couple

a few times per any, who can't say, so, so, you,

you've done, to, you, to challenge, you, You're you conscious of what you've done, you know, you're not... No, no, no, no, I'm not too afraid.

No, no, I'm not too afraid, because the father of my family, I've known, I was going to be in front of six months and I was out of the next to me as well. She's called her mom. She's not... She's not... She's a little bit.

So, that, yeah, but that, I've seen in his face when I was he announced that I'm saying, because even before I start with my conjoin, The morning, I said, you know, they had to have an commerce, and then I went to go to church on the floor and he said, it's a little bit of the room,

and it's a little bit more than, my mom, and the room, it was like, when I went to, let's go, they're going to, get to be, my tabernic, if you're not saying, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd have to plant it. And, I know, I'd say, he'd be in 12 feet, like,

my view, he'd be fed, in my head, like, that's, man, you'd have not made, but, no, he set on allie. Okay. But he had always opened a control so, my chum, he knew my chum, he knew

he's always, he's young, and... But, you know, I'm over there, justam, you know, you have talked in a minute? Yeah, but, you know, there's a... There's someone who's obliges to say, if you do not, it's my way to say,

so I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I said, but I'm not, but I said, but I said, but, you know, I said, you're just saying, to this chum that, you quit the house, you're enceived? Is, you know,

are you to dole, the fend of the time, go to, go to do you, at noel? No,

but, you know, you're doing, you're going to see your mom, so the so many,

so I'm, we go soup at the time, I'm going to get to be my family and my and my

parents, because, Chris, we're going to see, we're going to see a normal, but you

do you do that? For my parents, for my contact with their their grandparents.

But, but I really, I did For the moment, I'd not for me the progenitor. But, you know,

I mean, I mean, I'm a little bit in the head of, he's like, but why you want, if you want to get to contact with

your own, that's the time. And I'm, but I'm in same time, there's another thing, you don't know,

there's a time that I'm there's a control. You see, that's not that you're moveed,

but is, is, I'm, I'm, maybe not, you're in the carment, you're in the chav,

but is, is that sometimes the brain is a way of to say,

is that you minimise these gestures by a way in saying it's not so it's not

because, you know, he has always said in my mom I'm never I'm to try

to the but I know, but I think I'm not. You know we're don't know

because I've seen like in the in the country in the country,

to say it's the last time I'd I'd just be the kind of thing that's the kind of thing you could say? No, no, no, no, no, he'd assume.

Hey, we'd say Hey, we'd say to it Deiabolize, Chris, we'd say, No, no, no, it's like I said. I don't know, I'd say, but I'd say, but, you know, maybe not, no, it's a, it's an nasty burrow, finally, that, it's a man,

his surname, when we're passing at course, it's that, because I'm sure, when I got denounced in the journal, it's just a man, it's marked the burrow. The bourro. The bourro.

We're, we're going to come, but it's, you, Rambo, He's a judge. Yeah, the judge, he'll have been Rambo. The first judge he was put in he, he'll have

called Rambo. But, so, so, so, so, so, so, when you continue to, but when you chum

of the time, after that, he'd go to do it? Yeah, that, he'd

confronts, or? No, no, because we had, at a moment don't know, we're

at 5,000 to, the parents and me, let's, and, I could arrive at a house to precipice,

he's got in a carbo-de-cate, my chum envied all the time. He'd be he'd even he'd even he'd

get to show, and he'd come to see, he'd say, he'd not, no, no,

you'd say, you'd say, you'd say, you'd say, he'd go, he'd be, my chum,

he'd be over course, he'd be over so, so, so I'd go over the night,

I'd be able to , I'd not, I'd not, I'd not'd never, the point, the point, a little show, it's there that it can...

Well, not, my son, it's a show, but, you know, but, you know, sometimes, you know, your language is a deal with where you can poign the nerve

more easily, in a bit of in a brigate, yeah, but, me, I was more, I was more, that I'm afraid, that I'm not,

you know, if you'd just, if you'd make a , you know, they'd be, he'd be... So, You had,

not, you had not, that your conjoint, you'd have to that he'd be sure that he'd be able to, to turn, that it was a barb, I knew that if he had batted

my chum, he'd bade me, and abetted me and abetted the end of the same. I've been, you know, I've got to do with all right to join, let's own, let's own. Yeah. So, no, it had not

that I had not confidence in my chum, it's just a man, to him, the progenitor, that I had not confidence. You've had, how many of children? No, three.

Three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, she, has you had the only, she? She said, she's the only, no, she? But no, I just, I'm

doubt. I haven't I haven't the word I think it's all the word. They're all pasty.

Hello, I'm sorry. I'm in direct to Moe Studio, and I just take a few seconds to you talk about

you know, we have two, three, three, million visioned by the episode, and he were there,

and sincerely, if he had not been there, I don't even not if this project that exists

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get to an certain age as age as an Dossier criminal, and if you've got had been a disease like a cancer, it's

extremely hard, even quite impossible to have an assurance life. So, they won't to have. If you're, if you're not sure you're assurable, you think you're not assurable, contact them, they, they're going to have an assurance of life.

It's important for not to let your in the need when you're more than you. Comparremering, if you're the sole victim? of aggression sexual, yes. The most

the three, that's that you said that's you know, you, you, you,

you, you, so, you've been in the beginning of the beginning of yeah,

how you learn, that's that's that's that's I'm not that,

okay, I'm over to you, how, how, is, is, is,

is it, But it's a little bit of the same way that... No, because I imagine, you... No. You'd have never let's have to take up with your father, no, in truck. I don't know why I get a pickup in... I don't know why...

It's a beige. You know, I see. I was in blue, too, I'd say, I don't know. I'm sorry, I don't know if you're doing this carmion, and, you know, see, he's not beautiful, and we see, he's... Yeah, I... No, you know, in the front, you know,

very young, well, in the phone, Kashune, my parents... They're not trying to do you to have to do to work, so they're trying to do to work. So, my grandparents. that they've who's been in fact

it's more my grandmair but my grandparent my grandpa was like that I'm in a bit of the other

so you do you do it's not the way I don't know I have the choice I have to have to work because financially

if you don't have to you arrive not and your only option it's your parents yeah because

me pay a guarderer in this time there there's not but in the but in

you do you it's a baby he talks he doesn't you're too in no way that

we're going to say, like I think, it's a security for more. But... But the violence is there

is the same. But you're not the choice. I'm not the way to, if I'm not a way, if I'm paying

a guardian or a guarderry. You know, I was in a grose surprise also? No, it's not,

because you imagine you didn't want, because you're not, because you're not to put to all, especially,

not at 18 and not, I'm not sure. No. There's he'd I didn't care, you're not going to be in front. I'm not, because I'm a new, and he's

made, and it's been cut by, so there's their plan, he's parted of the loin. I'm going to, because there's a question that I've asked you, because you've had the children, you've had a conjoint, arrived you, at least, there's in your life very personal, but,

would you have to have pleasure, no? No. You'd do it mechanically for regard your chum? Yes. And at a moment done, in the debut,

he'd he'd have to be he'd on the exterior in Montreal and that's all. So, so I'm

remanded all the time. I'm, I'm done with the guy than you so I'm

with a couple of the guy, but but at a moment to get a little bit too long with a

guy in particular. So at a moment of a time, it's like, when I'm, when I'm in the same

to come back, well, my son, she said, she said that he said that's he said he said he

I don't resemble, my father. Okay. So, I'm going to be able to say, the past, and everything. But, you know, my charm is at all current, but I said, because it's the sole man who has been able to be able to be able

to be able to be, because I knew that I had not to contraireant. No, I, I don't, I understand too, I mean, let's talk, when I was 17 at 18-year-old in, I didn't have to say, for me, it was a...

You're a true, in the fall, that? It's a creakry. I see, at a moment You did it, because you know, you know, because you'd

don't know with the other guys, it's all super good, it's so on a show in the night, but I came out of

all right, and it's like, oh, okay, it's all right, and it's in the moment in the time, at the act,

or in the charm. It's just the flash, I imagine. I'm just just the flash, especially

some of the position or of the same, you know, no, no, no, no. If he'd do you do you

do you part in your part, I'm ironic, but I mean, I mean, I've had been the contrary. You know, she has, ah, there, the sexuality, the liberty, but, my, in adolescence, it was the contrary. I was just defunded on the sexuality. Okay.

And with anybody, any part of care, and really, it's... Well, everyone viv, some traumatism. In fact, I've been, what I've already heard, you've got to be able to consult, but I'm about that, but I'm what I've been often, is that you've got to do, it's for reprint the control of your car. I decide who can come and how

of which, you know, it's almost you're auto-puny in saying, I'm going to reprend the control to, you know,

but in the sense it's a, it's a flagellation you know, basically in saying it's me who decides, it's a

way, it's a way, it's a way, but I'm the impression, we're not still there, but I'm

impression that's what you have that's impardonable, no matter, the way that you, but I'm

impression that's the that you've been, it's, it's really, really, there's not, there's not an aggravation more than one

than a lot, but it's just that there's a lot of, it's just, you know, you know, not minimise, a aggression,

it's an aggression, it's an agration, you say, by the way, I'd say, like that, but a dick pick,

no, volu, it's an agration also, it's, excuse, I'm just, just,

flatted, touch a fist, No, no, it's that, it's Chris, in the case, there's a thing that

the social have been in life, it's perhaps to be able to have made quite a couple to have done

in their cuss, it's so, exactly. That's so, so, so it's, if you're something

that with the time, it's a better, it's a way, or it has been

there's a time, that when I'm saying to my conjoint, it's, it's, it's,

it's not, but if I'm not, no, no, no, no, no. You will he not be able to do you to make a pleasure? No. I want, you to do it, and then you're like, like, all the two, you're like, you? Like, you know, I'm saying? Yes, yes.

I'm respected after 30 years. Respect to this man, to say that. Yeah, no, but, you know, my, you know, just, me, a man who is capable to say to his wife, I'm going, I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going to, I, do with me, because to me, for me pleasure, it's, it's, uh, he's not

I don't know, but, you know, but, you know, but, you know, but, you know, you can't, you know, you're just that, you know, it's just that, it's an enormous respect. Yeah, we're going to be able to be able to and all that, to have

to have been able to be, so, I, I think, I, I mean, I mentioned it. In a way, he'll be able to, so, no, no, but, so then, I'll be he'd say. You'll say, you'll, you'll say, you pass,

your genest. Yeah, but I'd say, my, 0, 3-year-old, it's been like I've been really like I've been with us because after that my other son he's been in,

so I've got to have to work. You know, I said a lot. Oh, I said, oh, the chum will find more more than money.

We'll have to be going to be in the kids. But, you know, I'm going to be my grandparents and, you know, it's at a coat.

It's been, it's not pretty time that we've been to, so, so, even you're just to my parents,

I went to to my grandparents, and it's, it had always been like, there, there, did you,

did you, of violence. I mean, I've seen a young, a young, oh, yeah. You know, I'd say,

I'd probably, that's a bit of some of the things that's a bit too, but I'd say, but I'd say, but I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd probably, I remember, there's just like my grandmother, my grandmother,

I'd have, and if, if we, we'd go, one, I'd say, I'd probably, I'd probably,

I'd be seven and we'd had to say, and we'd, and, It was all the time there was and it was very hot. And then,

it was a menace my grandma to do that's I'm going to I've been seen, it's just, it's just,

an affair that would have not be able to live, because she had she didn't, she didn't, it's not,

it's not, that's not, what's, what's, what's, I think, there's, you know, there's, you know,

there's, there's, you know, there's a, it's not, that's, you're, you're a, you're a,

you're a, , you're a, a, solid. Today, it's what I say.

Ah, it's, you know, I've called, you know, you're going to, you're a

woman extremely solid, to be able, just to be able to talk about like that. You,

we're jokey a little in the time because, because for me, you know, the humor

is a way, to, to, to dramatize a bit, so, so,

Like to do you, not an babyface, not, you know, but, you know, it's a surrey, you know, appreciate the life, like, with a baggage. Like, you see, you have two choices. You plow or you're left? It's sure. So, you have two choices, you know, now, you know, the, the, three more, and, you know, it's all right, and, you know, it's a few choices. You've got to be able to tell, you, to start, you're going to be.

And what's what you've lived in, how do you, it's been to try, with that I'm rapped some of the aggression. I'm not like to get to

get in the detail. But, you know, there's not there's there's just there's

there's there's but it's a time, it's a time, it's about five years,

penetration about eight and that it's all after one because he went to another.

For other other. Yeah. But, you know, my grandparent I was like so,

you'd he'd he'd he'd She was satisfied, and he had lured and they were married his emotions, and all. Yeah, it's the eighth merrived of the world, you know. You're not conscious of that?

You see, and you see, you know, you see a pattern that's repeat? Or you see, you see, a person completely different with her who was with you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's not the same. Is it, is, is it, it's, you know, a barrier, or, you know, you'd say,

Chris, perhaps, you know, I mean, I mean, some, because, you know, I'm like, but why you're like, but why you go? I understand, you say, for my my own, but... No, I know, I see. It's not really the questions that you pass, yourself.

Well, it's because, me, at least, my parents, there were a venerabilia, and he's been trying to the park, and all the quit, and my conjoin, he said, well, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I don't, no, no, I'm, I'll retchate to them. I, I'll just say, I'm sorry. You see what?

You see what? It's the, so, so, it's the, why? He will have an imprise on the family to complete. He's constructed at co-cote. He's constructed

at co-cote. He's to get a bout of the terrain and it's constructed at a coat. We've got

to get to the shit but I'm there's a year, I've got to my chum, but, you know,

to be able to be the time, you know, a time, but it's not at the years or

at the years, you know, I'm doing, I'm not, but I'm not, I'm not, but I'm not, I'd have to know,

I'd know, I'd say, confidence in me, you know, I've been pastoral, you know, I've seen, you know, so he's got to get a parcel to the terrain to sit there, to keep, even if it's put it, excuse me, I'm sorry, but even

if it had been to be able to, he, he would guard, you know, I remember, when you were younger, social, and, you know, everybody, and he had, you know, we're, you know, we're, we're saying, it was, like, on, with a way, but with a chime that you could pass, we, we'd,

we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, the port at the autumn at with him. As soon that he arrived with someone, a travelist social or whatever who

it went to get to come. Nipote of who could not be intimate with my visit.

Yeah, he arrived to see after after. It was a minute after that's sure. The point

of the autumn that it was yeah. But in the autumn we had really really,

because at a moment on the we had in a point he would be at the

You know, it's Deguelan. To have really still there's There's a There's a lot of people

who's doing that why a woman who's that's not it's not explicable you're in a twas,

you can't move but you're in a row but I'm having lived for me than for me

and I've seen my my mare I'm I'm compatise very with the women

that are I'm 100% I'm I'm compatis enormously because I

know what they can't to be on the time interiorly physically and morally,

I'd say, but I'm not saying, but the time, no. No,

no, the proof is Christ, you'll let's your feet. You know, I said,

my mom, we've done, and the comments, I've done often, you know,

why, why, why, my mother had my mother, my grandma,

he was, he was there was there to be there to be to be able to be able to not,

it's not to be not, no, no, it's , but you I don't, you know, because when you were young, I've

avert to my parents, I'd have counted, because at a moment a day, when they'd come a little bit, the morning, and they'd give to the professor, at their hour, we'll have an intervenant social who's going to

get a, you know, a defy the field. But at a moment a day, she had embarked at the school, in the time that I was at the octal with my last year

that I'd be done to know the naceace. Why the DPJ debark at the class? There's a person there's a person who is, you know, and you're like,

is, like, is, you're like, is, you, you know, you know, it's not not part of the other, not, not.

It's not not, no, no, no, yeah, it's not for my grandparent. And, you know, my grandpa went to be in

the same, so, no, you're both, you're correct, my grandpa me to touch not, I've never lived

too new, like... You know, you, you know, you're conscious that, you're, like,

you're, like, you're, like, it's a question, it's a job, it's a grandpire, and you

it's, so, you know, you know, Plus, the normality that you saw you, let's get a young. Because, you know, we're like, he's like to fined

his arm, you know, he's like, you know, it's really, you know, so, so, I'm not quite

, you know, it's been to , you know, it's been to , you know, that's, you know, it's been

three years, and I'm , I'll tell me, I'm probably, because until the three years, it was still,

he had three years, and, and, like, me never to play. He never to me to me ennuied to me ennuied

of him because I had a line extremely strong, you know, when I said that I said he was really

really maniped because you know, it's the fear, you've had by the fear,

and you and you've got caught in a other way, he's got he's like, he's like,

he's not that's that, but, you know, it's literally that, when you

when you say a manipulator a narcissic it's in the tapy, he's he's 100% conscient

of, all these They're just to be calculated. It's almost it's probably to be seeing that there's a

question, you know, if it had been official or something, I don't know that's not that's all the

head, you know, violes of the children, the women, also, you know,

it's not just okay, the, yeah, the, yeah, yeah, it's not,

it's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's, so, you know, it's,

you know, it's all they're all young, I've been never never nothing

cached. And I'd have always said, you'll have not the life that I've got, so if they're just partying, I crossed my barriard, I'm focused on

my parents, you know, at this something that I'm at the But, you know, yeah, it's that, you know,

I was with, I've been a baby, and, you know, there'd be like a little the same pattern, so,

so, you know, and my voice, it's my grandpa, it, So, you know, it's all my world, because it was to say

that the papa he had not to leave his kids. Because you wouldn't know. Okay. I mean,

I didn't want that he'd be able to his feet. She changed the couches, the cushy, it's,

it's not years that had been done the authority at this time. Fac, the crainthe fear has been

there's a enormous so that's for so that they had been his grandpair

like, but it's you know, you block your conjoin of that, but that's but she's

your father, you know, I'm and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not to throw, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, probably that you

don't know, you know, the brain, you, uh, because for you, because, you know, because, you know, if you're the image you're of an father, but not

of a grandpair, you, you know, you know, you, you know, like I said to talk about, but he'd say, I'd say, I'd never,

you know, I'd, I'd say, I'd try not what I've done with you. I'd try not. You'd have to, you know, because I'm being at all the current. You know, there's person

who's going to touch at your , there's person who will touch at your face. If you had said, you said, you said, you said, you said, you, uh... I don't remember

no, but... Let's say, maybe that's, about two, three years, perhaps, but, you know... I, you know, I said, it's weird because I say,

it's totally these things that to my girls since they're young, and more

today, and the more I'm in the way to because there's there's a little chum who's been

and you're like, it's important, it's limited to you, no, no, it's, it's,

it's, uh, no, no, it's, respect to you, and you, you know,

I'm about the age of the age of the last, you said, he was in prison,

not for that but for other things. Yeah, In fact, the 3 January 2009, we had the party of my 2nd her, she had 8 years, and all the time,

you know, all the time. He was separated two years. Yeah, but it's so. It's not long time that he'd be separated to my grandmother because she had

finally been to find out of my job, I'd be to cry on by the pond. We'd go ahead to be my tabernic at your job,

and if I'd be to try, and if I'd get to be there, he'd say, he'd face a part. So, she, she'd continue to to live in the stress.

Oh, yeah, just at the last year, you know, that's a way, it's not quite, but we're going

there, but it's so, we're going to be at the party of my then, and I was, I went to

have 11, and she had to have, had to be bouched the and that, and, well,

there was a great, he had a out of his pocket of his poche, so I'm on the

people of so, a can't be in his pox of his pox, he made his armage of my grandma, and he comes

to come, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I don't know what he said, but, brief, that it had come to degeneration a little. Then, after that, it's kind of calmed, and the sorrelia, it was like normal. And, there's a minute for, I, I think you had said.

Well, it's because, there are there that there's a friend that with my mom and he had to come here at home, and at a moment of a day, and we had started, he said, he's not a man, he said, it's not a bad, well, calm. Not a chan, okay.

Because, there, we're right, because, there, we march, Justice of the U. Ah, but it was even, he said, when he said, he said, on the door, and he'd say, oh, I'm at the door, and he'd say, oh, I'm gonna tell her to-ta-ta-ta-ta-ha.

We're gonna, you know, we're talking about too long, because if I'd love, I'll tell you. It's so, all right, so, so, my chap, when he had said, he said, oh, my little tabernment, he'd say, me, he'd say, I like, I'm gonna golly, I'm gonna call, the family, you know, I said, well, I've never to abuse sexually of my feet,

But I've seen really the fact I've seen. Okay, for the first time, he... He has

He's got to the people who knew. And then it had passed in marg. I'd say

that it had to be to be able to and in a house, you know, because it's been the

things of point, you know, my pot with a bit of beer, you know, it's really

to be he just parted, and he said, he said, he said, he said, he said,

he said, and he he was he was with his he's parted with his chair he was parted with his chris of a great deal with I don't know

because I'd say a criss of a great great storm and then it 15 minutes he came to at the end of 15 minutes I was sat

on the little bit of the entry and I'd literally like we'd like we'd rest in the airbriar and how it was made a viz commercial to the bureau of post it's all vitu

because the airbiar it was connected but there were just a door that separated And I just opened the head and I said, my, great papa, he was there. And I've heard of a carabine, a carabine

face after, the chair of metal and he's the door, and he opened the door, and he said, no, my father, and Joelle. He had clanched these carabines. There were two carabines, three coupons, two carabines of chasse,

three cutas, the poach of mantle, of shoes, and a stature of ball, and then the ball. He's got to do with all the world. He had to understand that he had come back.

So, what he was promised to do for his life, he'll have to do. He had to do. So, at this moment, he said the name of my father. He's in clashe, the carabine. For a reason or another, we don't know, we don't know, the ball

has a lot of time. It's a very good chasseer. He chasse, like, his arms, he didn't, in the ground, he had never touched. You know, he had to the chasse and illegally, also. But, you know, we never

I didn't understand why, but it's that he's saved because the ball has been to turn. But, he, it's, it's

passed in a twet. You know, my little sister, the little bit, she had, like, she, had been,

she had been, she'd be over the , you'd be able to , you know, that's,

but he had talked, he had made a number of my chum, we had made a few to add

to add more, because we'd not a, so, so, so I've passed, by the, I've put,

the toe, I've poned on another arm, summer, from in rear, and he went to have been to say, he's not really about that I thought

when it's a little bit of he said, he said, oh, it's a bit more, I imagine. Yeah, I was at that, you know, there was the

man who had just took, me and my son, and I, in the middle, in the phone, he's made in the cell of bed between the mure

and the lavergues, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, he was caught in the corner, to be sure, to be sure,

he'd be able to to try to try to, also, and me, after that that's the rest, I'm going to count, but that's what I'm

going to say, I think, that's... You've seen, you've got, you know, your grandmother on the telephone,

my mom, my wife, yeah, he's tried to pogny her. Yeah, after that. Oh, y'an,

I'm going to, I'm going to go, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to hear of a job, I, like, I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry,

I, I'm sorry, I, I'm sorry, we, we've made, a couple of, de, you know, my chair me'd be in the gorge. Me, or my

amy, I just one who's the time on the other his feet? But there, he'd say, I, I feel the mal,

I'm doing Chris at care, and I'm to prepose to the beneficiary. Excuse me, my man, but it's because

I see what the judge. Okay, Chris, even, rendered, man, man,

that's, you know, the affair, is that he said all the time to say, to talk, uh,

uh, uh, to be, for so, to be, for so, to be, victimized.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, so at the moment we've let's we'll have let's go after 1. Yes, Madam O'Brien,

yes, Madam that's the tempete. It's it. Two hours and a minute. It's right

a man armed Rambo to down. For two a half. It's not

a solution, but, you know, if it's put a important that it would be,

if he had been, if he were dead, in all these altercations that, it was 100% of the legitimate defense. Yeah, we had demanded to the police. Because when the police of Ramoski

were arrived, and the two, three-pstole, they're in the same time, the amblaar, it's the same thing, and he just came to start out. Because we've watched each other, but we didn't have to pass it to the stroarer of couto. He knew, he'd know,

he'd know if it were the troy of the couto, and all, it's surprisingly that he'd not, you know, to say, it's about two hours and a minute. Rissledon, your nastitkin, you know, Madam, you're curried, you know, I'm going to

Cushed the children and, you know, I've got sued to the gang, a little, you know, when he's out, he arrives but at the

end up to the gallery, it's, and he said, I'm going to me to sue. I'm going to be embarked, monsieur.

And there's an one who's that's been to have been to have been to his life, we're not sure to let's try

to let's try, he said, he said, the ball is there and he said, and he said, no, no,

it's a very good chastard, he's an He's still in the same autumn. He said, because he said, it comes of a miracle, you know, it's not parted, because if there had a lot, it's sure, certain, that's a sign of crime

that we can't stay in the house, because we've stayed in the house, since then, because we've had been, how many of the time, at the two of ten years, it's been, and it's not just... There had a tentative of murder, infracts, well, invasion at home, that had been invited,

the arms at a few... Illegal, possession, illegal, rangement illegal, an affair in fact, but in

everything, there's a whole, so he did not happen yeah, it was out of yeah,

because he had stayed in the time of his process, yeah, so it's in January,

I had the inquister who me gossed in good, Quebec, yeah, it's a,

yeah, no, in the good sense, you're, yeah, yeah, and,

and, and, because, And this night, he had asked what he had declanced? So, he said, if you were, I, I'd say, I said, it's just

it's a hauntous for me, so. So, at a moment of a day, I said, yeah, so, that, fill in egue,

he'd all the time, he'd be to go to my and I said, ma'am, I said, I've said, I've got to talk. So,

so I said, my mother, my mare, I, I, I've seen that's been to be in the face, and his

expression, so, that, he said, yeah, it's a couple before my fact, I made that I've played in May that I've

all the all the aggressions sexual. All the all the aggressions sexual. So,

I've made a lot of an dossier with the inquieter that all the victims

that had done. You know, what I know I know. But there are no

who I know what I don't know we, I don't know the victim he and he's the

accused, in the case, he saw all the declarations that are for him. So he

called his he would have told, tell, tell, and if it's They don't let's take. Because the chmoe is not

well, well, no. Oh, no. So, I've heard of the... I've heard of the victims. It's already a bit of a few gross dossier. Which he en-laved the credibility, in the

fact, there's not quite, there's a lot of, he'll have reported that, I think, it's 307-4, 39 for the table. Yeah, it's a record. A record.

He had reported 30-tenth of four. He's an avocat? He's a reporter? He's the next time. Yeah, he and he and the Okay, the, yeah, yeah, it's so. No, but I think

if more, there's a victim, more than you, more than you're, because the more than you're because more you're to be a victim to relate to the same information.

But he's because he wanted to tell that it was not he, it was me who had invented that, that's my chum who had crinked and that,

because I, the 3th of January, I had, plenty of people around me, but the 4th on January, I had no,

person, person. So, so, we're going to you're going to do. Because the family is not because the family is not

because it's all the same same pattern so that's the other are on the barred. Oh, yeah, right. Because if it's that's out for

it, it will be out of us that's not that's not because all the people are like desiccated, we're saying,

by par, and I'm just when you're when you're to tell you, you're talking about your complaint to pass on

cash, I think I'm I'm going to really my plan honestly, know how they are they're doing? I think

it's right. But, you know, it's due to 10 years all the procedures judicier?

Just the day that the lawyer, I had changed to the procurate could not

be there so she had made a confrary and he had talked with the

lawyer of the defense yeah and he said it's it's finished no you can

report so he to the way I'm etal publicly because the cell there is a

decoupable he's pretty decoupable I'm I'm sorry and I'm determined to count my story

and then he made fathes again again I'm quite I'm quite I'm totally I'm sorry I'm sorry

you get the control just at the end just at the time you're to start to come

you're it's over it's hard because you see a lot of because you see You know, when you

When you learn, that I've learned I've had Because it's there's a Because it's You're really To know,

For the Yeah, Yeah, it's You know, Yeah, It's been At least Yeah,

and it's And it's So, it's It's supposed And that It's in 5th year When it's

When it's You know, No, I'm You know, No, I'm But it's It's a Before,

Secondair It's, And before, I've done to work at the school, and then,

it's a testimonies because, they said that it was my father to

he had that's it's they're going to the family that's

that's that's that's that my father, what he had made,

but versus the father of the life, what was that that's

what I put a little more, but I know, we're we're

all in the same in the same after after after after after after

then, no, the plus that I saw that when it came out, it's

when it's that we're really that the two, the fact, you, in fact, you know, it's like,

yeah, it's a bit of that's the thing, yeah, it's just for the word, and it's

they're all the time, you know, they're all the time, my mom, my mom, I'm gonna like that,

you know, my grandpa, so, so, why, the day, like, he had been

to be and he had been, to, he had been, he'd be, there, he'd be

there, there'd be there, he'd be different, he'd, yeah, he'd like, that I was there at the eight-eimmed of the world.

You know, I've always been a princess, always, you know, just to... Hey, I've heard of these stories of narcissic, but de-mere, it's sacraman, it's a fair. You know, and my son, we're saying in the film, it's a scenario of film, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

You know, my son, the second, she has not been victim of an aggression sexual, and, you know, there's always a year. My son, she, it's always angry, but, you know, there's always angry, but, you know, but there's not been a manipulation,

so it's normal. There's not had a control, He's not going to control. So, you know, I had the letter that, I had a letter that said that I used to have to have people who he had made, blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. And then it was a call-lis of vash, and it was a crisis of, that she had 13, 14, even not, then. And even at the court,

he said that he said he said, he said, he said me, he had been my infant, that he had, I had, I had already,

I had already to adopt his mental oh, no, he had made the jackpot at the court, he had all the time to try the victim, you're saying,

on the victim, I'm a pedestal, he's that, you know, and you know, when you know, when you relate not

in saying, I've lived in saying, you're not, you're not capable, if you're not because you don't know,

because you don't know. My brain, it's a job, that you have totally called to see in

back. I, it's, my mother, after that, you know, I, I've done,

I've done, I've done, I've done to tryreus social, for asking to understand, because, you know,

I'm definitely, you know, I'm due The sexuality, I'm at 12 years. My first relationship to sexual consentant has been at 12 years. So, you know, we've understood a bit, you know, I've gotten to

it's a little bit for that you're like that. She's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she'll have so much, I'm not, you know, and I've been arrested, but, you know, it's been, in the beginning, that I've asked, after you. You know, I've heard about it. Yeah, we've talked with him. Yeah, we're talking with my conjoint

who's dead, and... Sorry, but I've been talking, and it's It's he's he who he said to my mom. A few weeks ago, he died of his mother. Because, I'm not able to do it. She, she said, it all the time, if he's touched, I do it. It's a shock. I was like my grandpa.

At that time, I was trying to, you know, I'm thinking, let's turn. I'm still in my mindset, like, I'm... Oh, he's been in fact of his job, there. You're just, you're conrederment a victim of a nist of a controller. Yeah, I wanted to look at him. Yeah, I'd like him. I was like, I want, I want a man who's out of prison, I'd go to go to prison.

Because we had an interruption of contact, but I said, like the last night of the day, I'm going to go ahead. And I go ahead and take a coffee with it. It would have caused a friction in a zone, not so, no, because I'm never

to be able to pass to him, to me ennue of him, to pleurray, contrary to what he thinks, my parents my parents were never to be able to be some, you know,

I'm going to be able to because it's negative. But it's been too, it's bad, I said, I said, a 10-12 with my mindset so fast. It's a fool

how it's how the interdiction of contact has terminated, we've added to have added to a 1010, and the

judge made to pronounce his verdict, we're, we can't an 810 for a year,

you have not the right to have, well, rigged his and blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. Excuse me, Madam the judge, but is, is I'm saying, but I'm

at the most that I'm not I'm not you just going to you say that you've not the ,

He's essayed and court. Before the judge that came to say he had pretty six seconds, he got to

he got the right. He's not he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's got to

retcheting, he asked, he said, and at the at the time that I'm a little, because you

if you decide that you don't know, that's right, yeah, because he was said, he had the

procurer, if there there's another, an other, an other victim. Automatic he ran't, he ran,

he ran, he ran, for a bomb, yeah. when he pleaded culpable, it's been what the

sentence that had had been in the first he had done to be in it's not hey,

honestly, I'm content to hear of for someone for someone who pleading sexual on age,

there had plenty of things, there was there was a tentative of murk that's not

not just aggression sexual no, no, no, no, I'm if it's

it's, it's, it's if I'm if you're saying, if you're getting,

you're, you know, that's too, you, you're I don't know if she's a poigny 10 years just for her. If there's been a lot of her, there's probably a corny there.

There would probably have been a ponier percut because it's just, it's not just I'm able to deconted on the same. It's not just, I'm able to deconted so much, it's only if the... So, it's sure that you know. Yeah, it's so. The three or the five people

that I, I know that I've, but there had two who had made a declaration, they'd have not to leave their declarations. It would probably have a lot of them. But it's like you said, you know, there's the, you know, there's there's agressions sexual,

the time of the flattage, you know, there's things of the same, the character of the same, it's all, it's all, it's so,

it's all, it's a close, let's talk, let's talk, so, so we're doing so we're trying on time of

a year, it's, it's been, I don't know, the penetration sexual that had done during

a time of year. So, so, yeah, more than 500, I think, yeah, it's been

calculated, yeah, and when he's he's out, he's out, I mean, I, I mean, I mean,

one he's out of and he's going to and he's what, is he raced? Even if he's not the right

to contact or anything, is he raced to re- to come in? Yes, yes, we, we know,

we know, when he had not the , let's, when he had his own to be at the exterior,

and he had not the word, but, you know, the court, don't the address,

and he said, oh, but, you know, you've been to have to be able to to be

to the , you've , you've In this moment, we had demenaged. We had demenaged, yeah. But, you know, it's, you know, I'm just a recital in

back, but, you know, but, you know, the procedures judicier, you know, I'm going to school and my little cousins, hey, I, I, I'm doing, it's, like,

because the family you're at all right, oh, yeah, and, you know, because, you know, with his family, you, and, you know, but he said,

watch your because he was, you want to finish their job. Because, yeah, but he's always today, it's a logistic, I'm

in the way, but in the way I'm doing my job. He was in prison and we're in

a child, but that's not because he's going to be able to prison, even in prison, even in a firm,

he has his own, there's, there's, there's, we've finished by saying, we're not

, you know, but now, you know, maybe it's, so, so, so, you know,

there's, there's, there, there's, no, no, but he said, because he said,

it said, she said, They're going to finish at this job. But Chris, in there, he does not pass to the good time, he, no, the police had made a pleasure to say that he was there

for pedophilies and violence. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's at the maximum if you were a bit... When he's in front of when he's in front of

in the police, they're saying that he'd be a pleasure to say that the tentative of murder, and there,

and there's there, it's like that it's not, and with the aggression sexual, They've been saying to say to all the detainees and all, but I don't know. But he's at all maximum a bout.

So, you know, if he was it at all maximum for his security, or he was it to have to be the mouth? Well, certainly, because he's in fact that man. Because for his security, he would have been in protect, in maximum. Just to, at the maximum, he's not, I don't know what he was. But, you know, the, more the grader, more, more, you're, more, it's not, it's really because he was not, it's not.

No, no, it's, it's sure, it, it's, so. You do you do not at a maximum for your security. I'll confirm. It's not there that it's the most securestair. No, no. We're going to do with criminology, Rochelle. That's what she said,

they'd say, oh, but there's going to change to department because he had not been an angel. No, no, but an addict narcissic, don't even. I'll forget that.

It's clear that he respect for the authority. It's, they're not, they're asking, they'd like to talk like the man, and they're treated like

to the man, and then, no, no, no, I see, the pattern, that, When she's out, he continued to call my grandmaire. He'd call him, he was the menace, like, and, again, it's my mother.

We were the same, so my mom had me counted all, and I'd call, exactly. You know, I'd rather than to say, I'd marry her to my grandmaire, and I'd say, I'd say to my grandmother, and say, I'd like, but, you'd say, man, you'd say to tell melley, because I was, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, she'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd, would come in with me, with me, you, he'd say, he'd, he'd

He'd call her to arseller, and... But you have to tell you not, call-list, of life, man. He didn't have to do. My grandmother, I said, my grandmother, I said, man, I said, man, he'd say, if he'd say,

he'd say, he'd say, and I'd say, and I'd say, and I was, he'd have to phone, she'd have, his number of telephone. Yeah, I'd say,

that's what, that's really my that's done. Yeah, that's pretty, and, you know, decroche, and then, and then, you know,

he'd say some man to, and then, and then, you know, Samantantant, I don't know, you know, I feel like that's a little bit more than a barnaque, but I'll remorse. It'll have to be 4 minutes 36, the appeal to do nende. I said, yeah, I said, you know, I said,

you know, you know, that's what you're going to start? You're not, not too, ma'am. It's not me, not me called. It's her who, she'll call me to call me up until she'll be a barnaq. I said, I know her that's not her who you, not, oh, but no, no, no, no. I said, let's do you, let's do you, I'll go to post of police, and I'm going to complain that you're aggracy.

I was never touched in a year. No, he's never rapped my

grandma. He's never rapped. For a guy who has nothing, he's he's never

rapped. She'll have been three years. There's never. He's never,

he's not repugned of chifft after that and he rest at 10 minutes to show,

you know, I could I could be cross me, but it's not his advantage.

No, it's not his advantage. At the I'm called, I'm called, I'm sorry.

You know, really what they've been in the three the last year or... You know, I know that I've

called to get to rent in a residence or something in this genre, because there today, I'm

doubt, I'm not, I'm not to diehry, I'll not know, but it's not a man

with an age that's a 70, maybe 80, yeah, he's made in 49. Yeah,

I'm not saying like to tell you I'm going to get to get some but it's but it's these monsters,

that. Oh, it's not too bad. A person who is super good, but a person who is really the marred

of the show public, now, they're going to live the longer as possible. And it's real of the

life is in mind. You think to the final? Well, maybe, maybe

maybe it's not right. Oh, Chris, go see. Oh, I'm just, I'm sorry, I'm curious,

I'm sorry, he'd be to say, he'd say, he'd say, he's mad, you know, I said, he's dead.

But I'm asking for that, not in the sense that I'm going to more, you know, it's more, it's going to be celebrated.

That's that's, that's, you know, that's, you know, but you're sure that you're

no, but you're to give me in a sense, I'm, I'm going to be there and who are, and they're going to

be able to oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, because, you know, it's just, it's just,

it was all of his and it's, it's all They're call-lis. I said, I said my Episcary, I made treat

to know during the episserie by his proper asses of his own that's not

fault. It was me and Joelle and Fottie and mom, we had a messer at the fact

to do you I'll talk to say, you've got to you're not to save, it's your place, it's

that you're to live, it's that I'm saying, but that had you traversed the idea of

hey, we're callus Oh, yeah, we're at a moment a moment when I'm when we're vanned a cabin

at sugar, it's me that's my I'm going to I'm going to I go to work and when I'm going to get to be able to

and they're to shoot? Are you brueled if you're not, so you're not? I'm at the time, you know,

I was at a time I'm there a time I'm in the house because we have a system of alarm but I can't

hear the phone to leave my man is like no, no no, I'm like I'm like, because they're friends,

He had been on the terrain. Have you made to what? He had you not made to what? It would be

that's so it's a no, no, no, it's, so I'm a moment

I'm saying, my chum and we're saying, I'm sorry, you know, there's the second

you've done, you've done before, before you know, before, I'd be the first for a long time

to be a correct, but, but, no, no, but, but,

but, but, um, with all the power, and the, the power, and the,

Today, it's you do you know, because today I'm in my clothe, I'm going to

I'm in a little man who said didn't know that's a place, I'm not with my

friends, you know, but all the time, you know, some, you know, there's a , you know, an hamster

who's spin in the rear of the time there, and I say, it's TikTok to save because with TikTok

I've asked to talk to talk, to talk, to make, to make, to say, to change.

You're not, you're not, a victim, you're a survivor. It's sure. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. That's all right.

I see. But, you know, it's to say, it's a lot of my story several times. And, you know, a moment of

a day, I'm not to be able to be able to. You know, I mean, I don't know. So, so if the chappo to fame, M.

And those who who are in having to know who? I think that the world who can't be able to be who and who are

to the way, it's public. Yeah. The only thing What I just had the fact of not the name, it's what you

did you say that's in a minute that's not you're not to say, you know, you know,

you know, but I'm not there, but in the way, I'm even he's even for,

I'm sure, I'm not, it's so, to say, and then it's not, it's not, even,

even not, maybe, when someone can't, someone, you'll be here, and if you someone,

if you're in , if you're going to see, you're going to see, you'll have a bit place, But it's always

to check it in necrology if he's not there's a because he said to someone that he said to he's not he's not

he's going to control to all the other you know, he thinks he will still control they've been

to have a cousin you're going to say yuppie but maybe it's just like to check in necrology

so I just that we're trying to make the mannage I'm it's more but I'm more it's more

I'm more it's more it's more stigmo, I'm going to go ahead. No, I don't know. I'm going to say that you've taken like a marionette, and you're even there, like, because you've made me made a nasty meneage of a servo,

like, sent you still, you know, that's a control that a little, no, no, psychologically-speaking about that, I think, no, no, no, no, no, I'm for that we, we're saying, I said, look, my view first, is that I'm, I'm going to

help the victims, they're sensibilized. I do it, because I'm not just a victim, I'm a survivor. I want to make, even if you don't putte plain, I'm a way of... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the reason.

By the point, if he'd have not lost my grandmother, I'd have done. But he's let's but I don't know the need. I mean, I don't know to get, you know, I said, it's long, I said, I've said, I've been past, you know, I'm trying

also in the domain, so I know, so I know, it's long. It's very long, it's very penime, and the justice is not what we'd want to do the time. So, I'm saying... He's going to point with what? Three years.

You know, so I don't get this energy that to put in if they're not my grandma. It's the sole

affair. I'm I'm I'm not, but, I'm not that's not the, you know,

you know, it's a plane, it's a thing, that's the thing, I know,

I know, but you know, you know, you know, to understand at the point, it's important

that the victims part, yeah, well, I had, and I had there's young children,

and I said, I found out of you. I'm going to but I'm afraid. But you do it? But you know,

do you know, I'm doing it. Even if he said it's a point of course. Yeah, today, I'm able to talk.

You know, I'm able to talk and aid and there's people who come to see, they're going to tell their

history, they're going to get to their interview, and I've I've seen to what I'm doing to do what I'm

my view, it's to help the people. Not for for anything, I'm not for You know, I'd help the people, but I'd like to help and sensibilize and other things.

You, we're saying that all this parkour, we've lived with a epistle in the head. So, no, I, I, I, I don't know, I, I'd rather than that. So, you know, I'd say, if, you're going to be able to contact, sure, we're not going to be able to be. You're sure. You're in a couple today? Yeah.

You said that you had your con, you know, you're going to, you were in the way, you were there? to me as your conjointe. And with you, with all the question that I've asked with your mother, you know, your relationship with the sexuality in your life today, not in the detail,

but just to know, is, is, is, if you've reached to find out, with all? With the infance, but with the fact that you said,

at the beginning of your adolescence, that you've been revenged, you, did you have you reached to a, you know, to have to find out of 12 years, I've finished

about 12 years, I've finished, about, you know, I'm not soldue, but, you know, I've, like, realized debut 201.

So, I'm going to have taken a time but it's a lot of a man who said, hey, it's because it's a lot of

the world, and I've made kind of, so, it's it's been a time, but A Star yeah, no,

I'm afraid with my sexuality, I'd say not I'm not I'm a, because, you know, I'm like,

I've, like, I've, like, I've, I've, I'm, I'm, I'm, a, I'd say, a trouble

of attachment, because you can't leave the only person in my head, who was a little someone who was a lot of, you know,

so, you know, it's not all the world that's able to live with that, and, you know, sometimes that's difficult for that

because I'm a little in the auto-sabotage, I'm going to be like, vote, and I'm like, you're not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm like, no, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, but, you know, I'm, you know,

my conjoint, that's decided, you know, each person, that I like I love in my life I feel like that I'm in

constantly, I'm in therapy that's a bit for that I'm I'm saying but I'm inconsiaming it's sure

he's going to part of that I'm trying to get to call to your will not be able to and with

your relationship you have you have you a new after we yeah after we

it's not so long it's it's been five that that we're going to be

more chier we'll say that of the but But, you know, I've always parted in my heart, Paris. I know that's my father and all,

but he's, like, he's like not been there very, by default, a bit. So, you know, my yel, you're not my father, that's not you

that's the way, but, you know, the beginning, I'm, like, I said, I like, I said, I'm, and, and... And, and...

And, and... And, you know, at how point he's a solid, for your mother, I imagine that, you know, you know,

you mean, you're, you're, you mean, you're, you mean, you're, you're, Oh, yeah. No, no, I'm not as a second. I'm very very well. And with your two other girls, are you, are you doing a family quite? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, my third son, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, has all right now, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, and she, she, and she, and, well, when I was the grandpapa, she, she, she, and, you know, it's not your grandpa. I said, like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, no, he arrived, you know, it's that that's not that's really, it's not,

in the frictions, you know, yeah, no, no, seriously, it's a, it's been something. How,

your mother? Now, it's right. Yeah, right, right, because I'm not the girl

who has, no, I'm not, I'm not doing, I'd say, she'd be, maybe, at a moment

of the, but I, I know that she had a place to front more. I'm just a kid. There's a

cause of a matter to take a place a little, it's a firm is but not

my mom and me, I mean, I mean, I'm saying a little at the but I'm

my grandpa is a psychopath I've had due to see, so, so,

so, search me not because you know, so, so, that's not

the most that's not the most of my face, it's, because you see, it's,

it's, to see, to see, my her mare, an inaneity at all the foe. She'll have

have been in a tabernack and he's still in there's a old like to have seen like that

she's there's I've seen there and I've heard of the and I

know my chappo I'm I'm she'll she'll she'll be able

to be able to be able to be able to planm I'm I'm trying to write

and I said my ma'am I'd like that you'd me would

He'd be able to return there. No. She would not be in to turn to that. With that. With, I'm all right of the mouth. With reason. What we've seen, we've seen, but what we've seen? Yeah.

And what's what we've, I mean, what's we've not? We've seen, we've seen, these things bad regalas. And you're just to tell you to tell. Is it to tell me of what you've ever, you know, even the other side, you know. and there are how many these people

those people crash at a to it doesn't. It's not the time to go to the time to

think, it's not it's not a fraction of second to compensate to you I'm

I'm saying and I'll say and I'm saying in you're saying in regarding this camera

I I'm I understand what the auditors can have in

head in terms of, you know, I'm not not I'm not not going to hear, I don't know,

I'm not the point in saying, you, if you have it, if you're not not, you could not

judge, but why her her daughter with that? You have no idea if you have not

been a victim, I don't know, but I'm not been one, but I've heard of anesty of victims, I'm trying to judgeed not

a matter by a whole this story, that's, because we don't know,

the impris, the control, it's, it's, it's so, that's, that, I'm,

it's what, it's what, it's what, and it's to see, to, to see, to,

to see, to, to see, to see, there, we've got, to count a parcel,

we could be there, we could be there, but, you know, I, I'm,

I, I understand, that, it would it would never, you know, like I said, when you said, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, you know, you're there to have some of the details of aggression, voteant, I don't even

I don't, I don't, I don't know that, the view, I think, there's people who know, we've passed, the 100s episodes, we're not there, it's quite rare that we're entering in details, especially when there's, with victims, because it's not that, you know, I think, the, I think, the person, I'll call it like that,

The character is very and the reason for the for the reason for you know, I think

we've understood the reason for the you know, and with what you have said, I think that this message

that is well let's let's let's not have this reprize that, the no, but it's

that, but, you know, there are there are there that, there are there that today,

you know, there are exactly what you're, and there and the The fear, I understand it's far, the fear. It's extremely

far the fear. Yeah, because it's it. It's just, it. It's a lot, it, when you do with, when you do with, when you do with,

imagine, you know, when I've lived, and that I know what I know what I'm to say, it does it,

it's not the pain, of the heart, it's a lot, it's a lot of car, but it's not, but the piece,

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he prefers he prefers what your he prefers to think your feeling that I'm I'm the feeling that

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when you know when you see you know you're talking that you don't know I'm

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clearly no no but and And we'd say that I'm not I'm afraid. It's, if I'd say,

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my father too. And then as I said sometimes there's a thing, there's there's a

thing that you know, so that's we're close and, but, you know, I don't want to

my mother. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not, but, you know, it's a bit for that

that I'm that I've that I've wanted to keep, to guard to keep, it's a

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confirmed that he was when he was going to the tentative to murder I said, it's not

in prison for the he's in his own to get in they're in he had been after.

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their and they're in the list of the pedophiles there's not for a lot of we're

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but yeah and yeah and honestly I think I would

even not who who that should that exist because I'm the impression

that's that flared to be able to see. Yeah, I'm sorry. You're doing a certain

attention. They're not that's the kind of the masturbation mental that I feel like that I've never

seen the no, no, no, no, I know, I know, it's not for that you know,

it's not, it's not, it's not, but for you, and for the victims, for, to help,

to help, to help, to help, to understand, to understand to understand what they've Well, you know,

but, you know, it's often the person very close, you know, they're people who are

people, they're people who people who do people who do you know, they're

very, very often to do that. It's rarely an inconu there, you see,

it's a repetitive like that, you know, that's not that's good, I'm not,

yeah, yeah, very much. Brigitte, Samantha, primarily, thank, you've been

, that, thank to be in to be in going to because

that's why I said, it's what that's what that's what can give to because

yes, the chemain can be ardu, but I think that's a way,

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having been there's been there's not I'm that, I think, it's so, I said, well,

I'm, I'm doing, because I'm not, my feet involuntarily this night. Yeah, it's that.

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concrete. So it's for that I've denounced, that I'm embarked, and you were, you

see, the fact that you say that, you know, the fact that that can push the other

to say, hey, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

before that situation there arrive. Before, because it's not all the that's not that's a

ball that's not a lot of no, no, that's a lot of so you know, so you understand, it's

a bit, it's a bit that's a way, you know, it's like, hey, guy, port-plaint before that

that's what, you know, what's, what, let's, let's, your conjoint,

would, have been, it had been to be the prison, if he had, if he had planted a

in the car, there would be able to be able to But he would have found out of the life with the confidence of having to be in the life of

someone, it's not, it's not everyone who's able to get to get it. It's not everyone who can't get it so. So, you know,

so, before that these situations that, degener, the processus is not easy, it is But we have the light.

Yeah, the Kavak. And, I'm, and I'm there a thing, and I'm mentioned, because I'm

talking with a, you know, with an , you know, said, honestly, and the judges are more severe, with the

avocas of the defense. Because, when the avocas of the defense ramaced the victims, it's a nasty. And the judge, it's a lot of,

so, I mean, I'd say, so the people say, you're going to say, you're going to go out of couple, then your life sexual will be deballed

and, because the avocates their view is to discredited to, mined the criminality. you have the super man-died,

I'll say not get to the victim to get rid of to the victim and then it's what I'm saying by

these avocas no, no, the judges are you know, we're like in the new new

all this has made like, okay, there's a manage to have to have to

take care to put to bring to more in the system of justice. There's there's a

very good resource, we know we've had the Kavak there also the Kallack but

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I'm there The Bue The Bue The President It's really To help us It's really To help us

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we're not to receive. Well, it's just that's not a little more. It's correct.

It's that we want, because it's that they're doing it. You know, maybe we're

the only that's the people, you see. Well, it's all in the description YouTube,

your link will be there the moment will be in a clue to be able to provide a message.

Thank thank you both. Thank you. Thank you. And, thank you. And then, bravo,

to have passed by the all of this. This message that, I hope, it's not, it's rough,

it's rough, but it's it's a , it's a person that, it's a message that, and it's,

we're the vector, we're on the, the, I, I'm not the word,

but, in the case, I hope you've appreciated this interview, so, what you have experienced what you've

experienced again you're talking again you're to hear of your Thank you.