Au Parloir - Épisode #113 - Fou Brk

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Dans cet épisode je reçois Charlie, aka Fou Brk, il est sorti de prison il y a un an et se bat chaque jour pour se reconstruire. Violence et consommation dès l’adolescence, perte tragique de son père, peines successives… Il raconte sans détour ses démons et son chemin de réinsertion. Un témoignage cru, nécessaire, porteur d’espoir. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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started in the violence, as a, young with a pair schizophrened who's suicid when he was

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Siv A. Hello, Charlie. Charlie A.k.e. Fubrack, your name of artist, you're an rapper. You're not here

for doing to do you do with your whole long time that we've been on the time. It's been a bit you

wanted to come and there were there's been there's been there's been there's not that's not already,

you're on you're on you're on you're on your own you've put your shorty exactly,

you've taken the right to turn to don't, no, No, in prison, or in consumption. No.

You're on a chime that's been to be vised other views than than those that you had, to be to be to be in the

to be here today, we're still in 10 years. It's good, we're going to be. Yeah, I'm not stressed, and thank you, and thank you. It's a pleasure, my chap. Yes, so, so, me, I mean, it's the part of, you know, I'm parted of a family, kind of normal, I'd say, but, like, in fact, no, it's not true.

My father, he had all the time had all the time been schizophrenic when I was more young. Okay. And my mother, she had had a diagnostic of scleros in plaque with these problems of bipolarity and all that.

We're we're going of a family ordinary. Yeah, it's not ordinary, but I'd say,

my mother she, my and my friend, because I'm a great friend. Okay. And, and, yeah,

she's so, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, we've been able to,

we've been to the, we've been to grandee, in which point? I was at Saint-Net. Oh, Sagney.

I just said all the time, because, like, I'm in Quebec, but it's O'Sagnene. Yeah, at John O'Kare. Okay. So, so, so, I'm, you know,

I'm going to school. But, you know, I'm at least, I'm, you know, my father, I, there had a lot of excess of color and these

affairs, that, so. You were reliant to, I think that when I was more young, but,

yeah, I'm related kind of, you, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking, the color of

the color of your his malady or...? Yeah, reliant his malady, yeah. And, my father has made braced

when he was young, you know, it's been a person who had been made in in the family of aqueue, who's had

made, he's made many people, he's made, there's been after he's in the army, and there,

in a sort of bargain, I know, but, my father was a lot in consumption, excessive, so, so,

so that's... Your father would be a good invite, that's that you're going to say, my father would be able to,

but today, he's more. And, no, stress, it's, it's, it's a lot of that. But, you know, I'm going to end up here. But, you know, it's sure. So, you know, he had these great problems of consumption. He had been a lot of course that, I think, that's a matter of, I think, it's a matter of,

but it could be, you know, there's a thing that's sort-developed or who are accentue, in the fond of the symptoms of the malady. Exactly. I think that's, it's perhaps that that's happened in his case. And, you know, I'd say, My father, it's had all the time

an excessive, you know, he had a lot of different of the other, the other parents, but I'm never been batted, you know, we've never,

you know, we've had been rough, but we've never had a violence more verbal than physical, say, yeah, well,

even at that, I'd say, I'd say, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, when I was

, you know, because, me, I've applied to live a certain time with, you know, I'd say, when I'd say,

In my heart, it was a little normal, you know. I don't know if I'm made by, you know, to want to be secureize, but, you know, to have, you know, my father, for me, it's, for me, it's all the time, it's normal, you know. It's a lot of, you know, when you're young? Well, I can't count it.

You see, hey, at this age, that, that's at this age, she'll have, I'm going to see as well. There have been, okay. There have been, I'd have been, you know, but, you know, there are one that, who had more traumatized, I'd say,

it was about 10 let's don't, my dad had asked a caban in the boath,

and we would try so, and I'd like that, you know, I'd with,

and I, he had, he'd have, I've got, that's the Xbox that I,

I've been, but I'm doing, but I'm to get, when I'm when I'm when I'm

, you know, the 360 VAR, with the thing, he had I'd actually that, and it's intuable, these machines, you're not, it's true.

And, brief, it's so, so I've played a little bit with the machine for maybe two years in line. And, I was an aggressive, like you said, when I was the more young, I'd be batted, and all right, on the game, on the show video,

the manette, to be revolve, the manette, I'd, I'd more than the joystick, that could all go away, you know? So, you know, at my mind, my father, he, he had patted a piece with that, and he had started to think that he had satan,

corremant in Xbox. Okay, it could, it would push it away and then, I'm, I remember

of each detail, you know, he had started at Xbox at the phone, man, it's all arached the field

and all the kit, you know, and it, it's a matter, in the march, he's done to see, to see,

just as to deard, man, and he, he had got to go out and he had to check a mask,

and then, and then, I, I'd say, But he said, don't that, do you please, do not that, please, do you have put the mask in the mind, and he said, it's at you to destroy it.

It's the demon, and he's in trying to possess, an affair of a fool, I said, but I'm, but I was probably eight, 10 years, nine years. So, it's so, I'm just, I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, it's, it's something, that moment, you know.

He had you medicamante, or? Yes, but there's all the time there's a time, there's a moment where they'd probably. And if it's in consumption, in plus, it's not even, we're not coming with this story but, you know, it's

that's all the time at the extreme, it's a rage, and I remember. Your parents, were you together, they're doing to rest, or? No, my mother had left she the choice

to my father to choose the children or the drug. My father had chosen the drug. But, you know, my father had did the tentative

of suicide, these affairs hardcore, you know, an other affair, you know, I can't count a minute the day of

Christmas is partied and he had fonseed of a van and we other, we know, I remember from the char,

that, my father, he had had to rolled to char, no, the tincture, and the

accident and all, and you're you've been we've seen, we were, we'd directly

the camions, because it's a semi-remorke, he had functioned a semi-remorke, And he's survived by chance, but, you know. His own view was to not survive, certainly.

It's, it's, some, you know, sometimes, you know, I'm saying, you know, a mechanism, you know, a mechanism of defense, you know, 100, you know. But, you know, I can't count, you know, at long, you know, it's, you know, it's a, you know, it's a bit in context, you know, but you don't need to do

all the content, we understand, what, this mechanism that? It's quite... It wasn't long that could degenerate, let's... It's... It's...

If, let's... I... I don't... I don't... I don't... He could have a sound in his head, he said, he said, he'd have a... He'd come down to be...

You know, it's... ...iton, a person of an other color, let's... He thought, you... You know, you're trying... Okay, he'd say... Let's...

We'd say... ...it... ...we, let... ... ...on, we're... And he was arraithes on the road. He had seen the motor or two of the way, he said that the motor we'd want, because we were telling the team,

and then we'd brossey. And then, it's an important. We'll have to defend your friend to the phone. And it's all right, I'd say, I'm often, like? And you had, how old when your mother

has left this to chuala, your father? Well, I, it's been young, you know, I had, so you'd, so you'd be... So, you'd even if your parents, they were all together, so, you had these contacts, So, there were

there was a place, there was a I think, I think, I think, it's a thing,

like, a fine of a week or two weeks. But it wasn't, it was

it would be it. It's not it, oh, it's it's not, you know,

it's also a lot of a cause of that, and, you know, he's made to live also to her,

but, you know, it, it, it, it, but I think, but I,

you know, it had never been, like I said, he had some of the psychos but never

he had been in there's a with you're in with you're in with you're with you're going to say

it's going to get to be too long with you're too long with you yeah he defunce these ports

for some for the things he said he had they had there's before us

young that I'm assimiled in saying that's not that's not that's not it's not

it's normalized something that would be that would be there's of a child. Yeah. In as a kid,

primar, it's like what, you know, well, I'm going to I'm pretty, I'd say, all my

youngness, you know, I've had a school, I've had all the school, but I had to

the school primary, Lassomption. And my friend, me, it's an intellect,

he's intelligent, and it's correct, you know, it's a guy that's a It's not negative,

that, yeah, but it's a guy who is more calm and, you know, often we said it's at the

inverse of me, you know, Lange of the demon, you know, so it's, but yeah, it's sure, my brother,

it's an, it's an intellect, and, how I could say, he was bavou, you know, and it,

it, it, it was often that there had some problems at the school, but, small,

friend, grand frere, grand frere, but, but, my friend, my, even,

even, So I'd say, I'd say I'd say I'd say that I'd defend'd often, you know, but he'd be pogned often, but he'd be a gang against him, so. So, it's, it's, so, I'm, so, I'm, I'm fute at the school, you know, I was really, the contrary

to him, me, in my head, there'll never not an authority, he'll have not an imposition. I'm going to do, and I'm trying to do, and if it's caught in the guise, I'm going to cross at a gull, you know, so it's like, it's a rebelle. Yeah, I'm rebelle, yeah, I'm a rebel, I was just the professors. I'm, I'm going to

I'd like to school. I'm not going to see. I'm young. And it's a coming to, I'd say, at a minute, really that I'm

saying, okay, I can have some credit at cause of that. It's been a day that there was a guy in my class

that was, who had me queuered all the time. And a a minute I did, you, we're

we're going to be pogned at the hour of the midy, and we're going to be to be I remember, my brother

had debarqued with the world more he had he said, he said,

he said, he cried my name Charlie, Charlie. So, you know, I've said,

I'm going to get the guy, and I'm going to get the combat, and there, in my head,

to have, like, the acclamation to all the one, you get, I'm made,

I'm, I'm recognized, I'm that's so. Oh, no, I'm sorry,

I'm so I'm not, I'm He's batted at all the recreations in class, I'd

lanced the paper, I'd do you know, primary, yeah, I would say, like,

to say, even at the guard of rie, I'd do you put in some in the

box-a-mal, you know, an tchrist, that's really, that's really, that's right, I'd say, so,

and, you know, and a minute, it's so, it's so, that I'm that I'd

put the to do you know, and at eight years, you know, you're in a young that's put in a little bit more, you know, so, you know, at a minute, he's like, you know, a little obliged

my mother to make in a family of accue. So, that, it's there. Now, I'm, I'm going to see at eight years in family of queue for about, I think I've made one and a minute.

But, can't even, at eight times, you'd be changed to change to family, I'd say, you when you're already a spirit jobelle. Yeah, so,

so, I've been in a new new school, with the new new people, I'd say when I'm saying, I'm

repeated the same pattern. The same pattern. I'm going to do you know to do. The first,

I'll slog, and I go to go to and you know, and it's so, I'm continued, but in

family of aqueque, it's more, let's say, let's make I'm just it's probably three hundred times before

to be able to try to get my agenda by the thing, the guy, you'd be the morning,

he'd be at club, and during that I I had my bowl of cereal, you know, at two-puss of my face, you know, it was like, it was red, you know, it was, there were not a violence, but it was not a lot of the violence, you know, I'd say, I'd say, it's not a major family that I've seen,

but, you know, I've got used to, of violence in the same, you know, it's, it's all right, it's, it's just that, you know, everyone's, no, no, no, no, 100, but it's not, you're not, you're not, you're not to have been, you know, and batted by a family For a family of accrued to sit, you know, I'm saying, honestly, it's It's been a good to understand that, also.

It's that it's perhaps not the mayor, but at least Chris, we've had been used these stories of family-d-ackeye who had... It's kind of correct, it was not so pure than that. But after that, I've been to re-invoyed at my mother, but, me, in my head, when I was more young, I was said, it's of her fault, she, she'd be there. And I think I've been an awful like four, five, six, seven months, maybe, to, you know, she'll not

be talking about, you know, I'd have been young, you know, and I, you know, I was going to be in a other school, I'd have repeated the same story. And, you know, I think that I'm a guy

that's a carmeer, you know, my way to talk, and all the kit, and, you know, I was kind of manipulator, so, you know, not in all the sense of the term, but I mean,

when I want to have what I'm going to go, I'm going to go to try, you, so, you, it's a bit in that sense That's capable of

a little sweet boy to have to have to have to I'm going to I'm doing I'm going to

the line of the black and white all the time so I'm remorse in class resource oh I

I've used to pass it all the time I'm a minute I had been transferred a other

school I've had a airy you're really a class specialised it so it's

a class specialised it's like a class resource that it was just for the world, you know, like,

who's at an end, you know. And I'm still there, I'd say, I'd probably even not 12 years. So, like, after that, one of the second-air, it's like it's

that it's been to but, you know, I, you know, I'd live already a lot of stuff before, to arrive to second-air at 13-year,

you, there had been a lot with my father, I'd say, like, you, and I'd say, and I've defended my, you know,

my frere, plenty of times, but, you know, the time at a time, at a age that,

at 13 years, it's had to be a degraded, you know, the people, they'd be able to

more that we had to be the psychos. And, I think that the last time, you know,

one of the last time, I'd say that I really really really, probably, probably,

but, you know, you know, you know, I had made a effort of music, and I'd

He played in an instrument, and he had debarked with a complete. But it was the sole, you know, parents who'd debarked in a complex. Abbey, cravat, all. You know, my father, it's a little, you know, he tripped on Elvis Presley, you know, so. So, he had all the time, the shoes, you know, with the gel, you know, he would be able to, you know, he arrived, like, you know, and I think that's that he wanted to show that's me

and his father and all the team, but he didn't know there's a lot of

but he's not got to like, like my my cados were the tournevists when I

when I was to serve in 20 years to have you're saying you're saying you've been to defunce

my Xbox on mass you've made to turnovis you're bonted you've been you've made you know

it was an it was a it was a repopence you know I had patted the Xbox, but after that we had the to try the carabine.

You know, you know, it was, you know, it was, you know, it's not, you know, it would be. Yeah, it's so. But, you know, it's an extremist, that, you know,

he had been, if someone, you know, if you had a bad hour, you know, if you had to be the malady, it was a bad, it was a very good person,

and, you know, he made far, the sport, you know, and all the crew, and he had been at plenty of place, he had made a parachute, so, you, he tripped on the parachute,

and, you, you know, he'd be offered these spots in nature and all the kit. But,

yeah, in a gross, if it had not been to the malady, you'd have a good

pair in the mind. Yeah, yeah, I think, for the there's, I think,

personallyly, well, you know, again today, I think, to, you know, to grow

with that, at the base, it's a good person, you know, it's not

that I'll say, but, you know, in the sense that when you've I've lived

that more young we're it's you've got to grow more than you're

to be a man in a little in my head, you know, maybe, you know,

I'm what you know, I, I have the values that were not

necessarily the young of a 10 years, you understand, I mean,

he said, you know, he said, you never you're never you talk to talk

to you're all the family it's the family, You understand? And we're trying, and then, you know, we're in my head,

my father, my father me says, we're trying to protect, you know, I'm going to protect. It's a good value, for me, you know, and the principles to not talk against the other. So, let's talk, let's talk, someone who's asking a question, you know, I'd say, and it's all the time, it's all the time, it's all the time, you know, I've never heard, so, you know, for me, it's,

anchored in you know, but we're not the same games, you know, you know, they could

patting a piscose and say, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, and I'm, and I'm the time, you know, you know, it's quite a soldier,

that, you know, it's just, it's like if he batissed the soldiers, you know,

and you prepare at something that's in its might be, so you're going to be prepared when that's going to maybe, you know,

maybe in the sense that's a feeling that it's a feeling that it's not a little bit more than. But, you know, it's for so that's often, you

live in the affords, and in my head, you know, until, let's, let's, at 15 years, you know, at 15

years, I, you know, I, you know, at about 13 years, you know, I'm made out of there,

there, but after that, battle and violence, and stuff. Batoer, there's in the same, I'd chaire prof,

or no matter, and I wanted to be there, I'd love or, no, it was all over, and there was there's all

time to work, I'm trying to my place, because I'm saying, at every time I've done to do you know

well, you know well, you know well, you know, and it's a man, you know, and he had

a guy, I'm going to know, I'll never to come on more than there, but, you, he had a

he made curate all the time, the secondair one, and, and so, that's it's been,

The moment markant, I I think, that I said okay, man, I'm going to do you know,

I'm doing so, you know, I'm trying, he's a guy who really really liked

at the school, you know, it's a popular. He's called Gabb, Gabriel, Coate,

and it's, it's, it's been my frere by after after, you, he mackure all the time,

you, he'd be my calotte, he'd he'd tirate, you know, and I'm, he'd,

I'd, you know, I'd, I'd, And, you know, I'd not, but you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

a minute, I'd say, and I'd have been barred by, you know, he'd have been to do with a barry, you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd be a little vengeance,

then, and at a moment, he'd be in a moment, where, you know, I'd have to be out, to, at about 14, you, I'd change, Arvida,

I've had about, about 15 years. You know, I've started to do the house of the school.

You know, they're for the young, they're just that's just that's not going to

no part. So, so, you're not in a house, that's that's

that's a house that in a house, and it's after a month and me I'm

after a minute, I'm there's, and then, and then, I had a foot between the center

of the youthness and the school, but it was in in family of family

of so. But you me said, You've got skipped by this because you said he said what

with this guy that's the that's the that's the part that I decided that's what I'm going to be able to do you know?

Yeah, but what's that event that you like, yeah, yeah, I'm like, yeah,

but in the phone, you know, Gab, more later, he, he, he vanda a drug, you know,

and he he's made, he's made to seize his stock by some guy that were more than than him

and he, he'd been he'd been poev to the coveveve and all the kids. And,

At 15 years, when it's when it's arrived, my father had had to have been to get to

understand, so you know, you're not in the mind-sett to the world? When it was the

day, I was searching a copable, you know, and it had happened,

that it he had batted, you know, because you had been your time at

that time? No, it was not my man, it's again, but, I'm still I'm trying

a coupable, you're you're trying a It's possible. That's it. You had... Yeah, and I had...

Then, I was... I was... ...and I'd... ...and I'd... ...and I'd... ...and I'd be... ...and I'd have a story that the guy had said...

He had said, hey, he had... ...he had said, no, nah, nah, no. And, I'm even not sure. I'm even trying to understand. And I said, there's... There's... And they said, yeah, they're saying, Yeah, you're sure?

You're sure, you want to do it? Yeah, yeah, I said, I'm going to do it. I said, I'm going to do it. I'm a crisis of his own. I was 14, 15 and he had 18, 19, I think and I said,

and I said, "'Montry me, he's where, and I was, and I was he arrived at the G.A., and he was there, and he'd fombed with his chum,

and I crissed an ostit-voled, man, my guy, I, I, I, decoled, man, the eyes black, man,

I, when my chums were, I said, okay, it's good, you can go to go out, I'm over the ball,

I said, a bit of, a bit of, that we've even not had the time to do anything. I'm going to I agree with

I'm trying to I'm trying to to get it for the first time my life that I've seen in the

whole of my life I said I'd say we had to a rive almost I saw you I saw

a silhouette it's all that's all that you was a it was a thing to exteriorize

the dulae of the part of I imagine I think that's that that's

I'm trying and I I was to search a coupart, and that's a day that's been he started on a macheteenance, and then, he'd made quite these convulsions at the end.

My chums, they had said, Arrette, I think, it was almost that. It's been a time that's relive, I'd have been to

get a lot, you know, there's an affair of fool, then, after that, man, I had a mal at the mind,

and, you know, my chum, he'd be, he'd say, you'd be, you'd be, you're still, you, and still,

you, you're receiving, down the door, for some, You're just there. Yeah. And then after that, I was coming at

the school. And then you've seen him to have seen he's in mind. And then we've done new people that were not

on the planet, you know, man, respect, man. And person would have said that for me and there

all the world and that's turned to me respected when you, you've been you,

you've been that's part to the gang? That's not not good in the head of a guy of 15 years.

Well, no. When you're 15 you'd say, Chris, all the people

me respect because I mean, I'm going to batte all the world that's the same that I'd say after that after that I'd

after that's he's who's who's who I'm back to another you know, you know, I'm gonna get my edge yeah,

yeah, so I'm not necessarily reason, man, you'd just me to guard the crotch in the and the room and I was with my chum

and I'd like my chum, man, and you know, we're doing often but you've created a personage and you nourished this personage that

And you finish by to say, if I'm not this person that's what I'm doing, you know, what's the same personage, that's this little personage that you've created. Because he's like... Because he's a part of something. Well, you know, he's appellate in the door, what you can't do, what your father can't do. The support of the appurtenance, I think, it's really...

I'm saying, okay, I've got my new family. You know, it's... It's the moment, you know, people are going to recognize, and then, you know, the guys, they've got to be... at a moment, you know, the guys, they've started to say, because I'm a guy also who passed

from an emotion to the other. You know, I had really to the misery to get my emotions, extreme, you know, I could

anguish, mal-sale, to be full anxious, man, and two minutes to letty a door, you know,

I was really at the extreme, you know, and I could be to say, I'd have never do to do so, man,

and two years after, I'd have been after, You know, it was all the time, so, at a minute, the guys, they were coming to me say, you know,

and then it's like to say. Your name is... Yeah, it's like... The personage is new. Yeah, I said, I'd want to do you, because, that, I've passed a little bit,

but, but, me, when my father is more, I've batted the guy, two months after, I was going to to go,

and I was fed to put money to buy to stock at school, so, so, so, and I'm in family of accue,

at this moment, you, And then, just right, after that, I had to go to my mother. My mother, in fact, the police had to be arrested at the course.

I was pushed at the course, and in the parking, and she was in the winter and I said, and, yeah, I was, I'm punged, and then,

they had left my mother to me reprint, it's been correct, but now my mom has said, you're going, in the insto, you know,

an institute for the people, yeah, in the wood, that you were, no, that's, that's, that's really,

the center of youngness that I talked. In the wood, I'd have passed. He'd have left a change, I'd return to the school, but my father is more. You know, he had said, because my father is dead in the same time

that I was, I'd make, I'd make out of, in the front of the... Okay, you'd put out of the of the lot, your father is dead, and the more, the dog,

he'd, turn to your mother, and then, no, no. Well, my mother, she said, I've been, no, you know,

she'd say, Charlie, she, she'd say, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, I've had all tried, and it's very that she had

all the school, all the place, man, she had supplied almost all the man, he had been in doing it,

I was in my mood, man, I'm in call-liss, so, so, in this time that, I was extremely mechant with,

you know, I was, you know, and you're, yeah, yeah, I, was,

verbalment, and, you know, I could, be to, you know, and, you, you'd be shere,

man, and, and I'd say, if you debor not the door, I'd cross all the fenters, and I said, you know, I'm trying to, you know,

it's a bit, you know, it's a lot of, you know, that's that you know regretted the plus today, over your mother? Well, yeah,

but it's been time, before to it's similar, because, I mean, at 15 years, you know, I'm in a fool, you know,

I'm even entangled my friend, on a man, in a mirror, and he, he was rendered almost a rouge,

uh, today, you're not so, it's not so, it's not so, I mean, you know, you know, you know, you can't for an affair stupid, I wanted just to have a place in a salobin to me lavee in her, you know, and I said, I said, it's my place, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, he's, you

understand, you, you know, and he said, you're pushing, man, and then, and then, and then, she, and then, my mother had embarked, she, and then, my brother, he embarked on me, man, my God, I was, down the wall, defunce the I mean, I was going to I'd say, and then, I'd cry some d'Owett, and I said, okay, man, I was in trying to vire fool, and, you know,

all these things, I, you know, I remember more than, but, you know, I'd make some of the coutes at the gorge, and the things, I'd tryna'd all the time, the batte of baseball on the top of my lid, and I thought all the time that had to, you know,

I had any... Have you, an... Look, you can't, let me permit, to ask, but is, is it a diagnostic that similarize to the That's the same thing you're having? I'd say that I'm just a gina extreme.

I, you know, I can have 90% of chance to it to be. But I'm ready at 27 years. So, you know, often, that, we've said that it was a little more young. Okay. You know, that it's just to declarate. And with all the drugs that I've done, if it had repeated, it'd be.

I think that it would have elated. Because I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just going, we're going to, we're just seeing, we're, we're, we're... Yeah, it's not, so... You said that... You said, what you said, what you said?

When she said, she's not... She said, she'll be able to, you know, but... Yeah, it's that, she's going to be in to send janest, you know, so... My, San Jose, I wanted to be there, it's like the prison, you know. So, I'm... So, I'm, I'm saying, to my mother,

I'm... Bissar, I go back to San Jone. She's, she's not, I'm not the choice. I'm sorry. You guard, let's me, today, I'm going to take the bus. I'm, I'm not going to the bus, but, you know, at 15-year, I'd tryna with with these guys, you know, I said that he had been detainant, you know. So, you know, at 15-year, I was with the people who frowned, you know, so I'm going to

rejoin my pot, man, in a room of hotel frowned, and I, and I'd start, and I'm a pick-pocket, you know, I'd, so I'd, so, for me, it was normal. It was a little criminal to have, you know, so, you know, the guy, he said, you I had that I was good, you know, for volle. So, you know, he said, okay, well, you're going to go to tell dependeer, you're going to five, five cards of credit, you know,

you're going to, you know, these cards prepayered. Me, I'd go to go ahead and thence, and we'd magnetized in the chamber of hotel. And once he was magnetized, he had some money in fact of, you know. We've done it for maybe two weeks, and then,

He came to me and he went to me and then she said had two weeks she had she had but she

it's just it's it's brief she she'd maybe it's maybe it's maybe

in my head it's two seven but you know so so that's she's so

she she she she she'd she'd I'm back okay I'm pretty time

to talk because I'm because I'm saying I'm saying police me

search you know I'm I'm I'm After that, man, I was going to the institute. And then, you know, they're saying, if you do do so do you do for a month, it will well be in a lot.

But, I mean, I'd have to pay my father, you know, I'm saying, you know, I'm like, you know, it's all right that I can't, you know, I've got all right, you know, I've got all right, you know, I've got to send to the school there, you know, that you'd have to do you to do you to find out of young, if you're really that you want, you know, you should You know, at a minute

I remember there was a event there was a in the same to Janice who had had made

peteed the plon there, there had a guy that was there and it was an intervenant

and he, you know, it's a guy that made so to be to be in a chate and,

you know, like, to, you know, at a minute I, I'd start to have an inne anvairn about him

because he served a bit of the more young and the more feb for, for far far to do you know,

because there was a guy that was anorexical there, and all over, and he didn't, and he wanted, they'd want to be saying, he'd

want to be in a stee, so. So, he'd face far, he'd, like, to,

like, to, for that the world to pay his gull, and it, and it, and it's,

and it's, it were, it's, there's, the little of them who did not all, but, you know,

they'd be in smart like, but you know, it'd be able to someone, let's turn to someone, yeah,

you know, and at a minute, he had said, you know, I had a, I had a chance to be able

to be able to because there, it was quite a year, that I was, it had passed to a month, a year,

you know, so, so, so, so, so, so, he,

he'd, he'd, so, finally, finally, I, finally, I'd rested

it's almost two years. Fink, I'm resorted at about 17 years. But, but what's that event? Yeah, the eventment, it's so. You know, you pass some other things? I'm going to...

Yeah, you know, I'm going to... So, yeah, you know, sometimes, there's some of the subject that's supposed to, excuse me. No, no, there's not true, that's, so I'm sorry, so that I'm so, I had the choice because, I'd want to have

a permit of scooter, you know, and, you know, it's the sole way that I could get out. And, when I was shorted, I had me to charge to the beer at a

day or I'd make that I'm at a lot I'm at a lot of I'm in

I'm a I'm not a feeling like that I'm not and I'm you know, you're not you know,

you know, the matter I had not been done that, several weeks of course I wanted

because I had passed my permit, I'd have to have the scooter so, so I'm

saying, so I'm I'd say, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've got it,

I'm, And I had been done that for almost a week, two weeks. I mean, I had said,

but I'm a guy that's a guy who talked about, and there was, it would say, you could not say, you

could not say, you could not say, so, so, I'm, I'm in mind, but, in the morning, I had

had used a good good thing, but, you know, I had talked of violence and of stuff, and of so,

so, when they were, you, in a cell, and he said, like, okay, tell person, tell person, he called by your name, so, at a minute, it's a time, it's a time, I said, and I said, it's my turn, so. And then, she said, and then, and she said,

insatisfying, you can't, you can't have your own, and all the guild. Hey, I just exploded, man, I, punged a card, man, I let's let's let's let's all my forces in the face of those other, man. And then, they said, they said, I'd say, there's a good guy. So, so,

that's had to start to get to get to get to they're in front, you know,

there's like a sector plus in the cellul, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, so, they're, so, they've been there, they're in , and I,

there, and I'm there, just at the time that I didn't, that I had been really,

to, to get, to return in the rent, yeah, so, so, so,

I, he said, Chris, okay, it's good, I, I'm going to enter in the rap.

They've got to be able to cause. Yeah, but not because they're they're just after a

crisis of a big value by the example, they've been to be in a moment, you can't talk about

your mother, your mom, you know, you know, you're just one, you know, and I

remarked not that, when you're young, you know, you'd say not, Chris, I've been

to be rough with, you know, but after that, at the end, you, I finished

by me to say, but he had a reason, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

and then, it's, it's, I'm sure, I'm doing, I'm doing, it's going to go back to

go and then you're going to get, you're in the rank, but they're going to be , and they're going to,

and, then, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and, you know,

I'm, because my part, you know, I'm not , you know, I'm not We have not

need to know what we're doing this with his vehicle. Okay. He has made the essence on the vehicle

and he has fenced in a mure. In any of course we can't no, no, no, no, it's correct that's true

but we'll not be in any details. John, I tried to to avoid to give an idea. No,

no, it's there, but there had had been a cause of this in the phone. But I think that it's a

cause of the assurances of the car or these affairs, and then, and, and, I'm young,

that, I've won't this heritage, you know, you know, but I had no capacity to me... To get that? To get that?

And, you know, I'm there, you know, you're going to me, you know, and then, and... When I

had, man, I'm, I'm going, I was part to Derape on a nest of time, and I'm,

and I... And I... I'm... Seven, it's been... It's been two years, you're in front,

and you're in my poche-plend? Yeah, yeah, we're talking a day of New York, and I'm

with one of my chum, and he'd say, hey, check, he moved in his own and there's a packet the packets of satchette Coke, you know, and I said,

I said, we'll let's see this, we'll go, and then we'll see that, and then, it's definitely after that. Tombe on-amom? Yeah, it's, after that,

there, I, there, I, I, there, I'm parted on a mechant-at, I, you know, it's so, man, it's, it, it's, it's, it's,

it, it, it, I mean, at every day, at every day, at least, you know, in the fight and all the kids, and more than it was, more than it was that it's a certain classic, yeah. Yeah, so, you know, and, you know, and then, you know,

and then, you know, all of, all that, all of, you know, ecstasy, MDMO, or, you know, whatever, you know, and, you know, I, you know, I, you know, but, you know... The violence?

Yeah, it's so, at... Always present? All the time, all the time, all the time, there's all the time, there's all the other stories, ah, I'm I've got to be with him, oh, I, I'm so back to him. I'm glad to, man.

You were ready to, I'm you're saying, I'm afraid. I'm saying, like, I'm eight of fact, it, it's, it's, I'm a nine-eam, you know, I'd, you know, and, you know, I, you know, and, you know,

and, you, I'd try to, you know, you're trying to, you're gonna, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna, man, I'm gonna puttie, man, and, you, never, you, Never I'm going to snitcher, you know, and I'm going to do, and I'll do you know what I have to do, so I'm going to do with a lot of time. There's a dozen of years of that.

After, you're 17, you know, 207 today. There are these young who are listening to us listen. Yeah. And if this mindset, that, at 17, I can't understand. Yeah, yeah. But it's not the good mindset. But it's that, you know, when you're there, when you're there, 10 years later, you know, and if there, and if there's a guy of 27,

When you had 17, you're a guy of your age today, he'd have been saying, hey, I'm like like, you're at 17, and it's not a pain. What's that you'd have said, I think. It's that the problem. It's that that's rough, huh? It's that the problem. You know, we're there to be there to be able to...

We'd have done, too, I'm doing these partages and all the kit, in these therapies. And, you know, I think that there's a lot who I like my stories, you know, to record because at the end, you know, when I'm talking to my view, they finish by say, okay, we're not

parted of anything, you know, but when you're new other way of the way of the way of the

way of the thing, you know what to the world man, you're the counterote you're not,

you're not, you know, I'm not a man, Christ that's the long, the 45, I'm not sure

I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not so, I think I'm I'm not I'm not in what I'm

in what I'm in the end up of the line, all this, I've paid, you know, I'm 27 years, and I've done, I've done

maybe more than 5 years I'm in, you know, I'm in, some of the pushire, maybe, of prison. That's, it's a part, the sense of genus, at all the, you know, the things, you know, in the

fact, I'm not really, you know, in my head, I'm saying, my two years, I'm, I'm in, I'm, I'm in front, I, yeah, I, I feel my life at my life, I, you know, that's, you know, nothing, you, you've, you've, You've got to have not

done a voyage. It's a two years in the little. It's so. You're not to be able to you're not?

Yeah, it's true. You're not you grow not? No, you stalled? You do you

do you do you? That's what you do you do? Well, then you're there there's a barnaque man, so,

so you're, so, and then, you're, and we're, and we're, and we're, yeah,

I'm not too, I'm sorry, I'm not super with you, yeah, that's true at Chris, and,

yeah, For real, it's been long. It's been really long. I, at about, I've arrived at 18 years. You know, at 18 I, I've put, I've put in my first sentence,

you know, and then I'm trying to. It's a sentence. It's why? I was, I, I had an ex that's toxic, and, really, toxic.

You know, I think, I'm, too, me, I'm not, you don't put to putt out of someone, you're not someone, you know, I'm not quite,

you know, and I think the two, toxic, one for the other, the two, ensemble, it's a nociff

at more, you know, and the two, we were, and the two, and, you know, we, we, you know,

I'd have not the , you know, I, you'd say, it's pease that you do, it's pease, that's, in the fact,

you say, you'd say, to compare to to the other to, I'm not so, yeah, so,

so, You know, with the recurcure, I'd say, in the phone, I'd say, not more, you know. And, you know, at the end, he'd had to be in a situation that, you know, I was very jealous. You'd say, he'd, you'd, you'd say, he'd, you'd, you'd have, you'd have to, you'd have to go.

I'd be boned with you, direct, in the road, there'd, 10,000 char, I'd, you'd, I'd... Possessive. Oh, man, man, I mean, it's... It'd just a reason, uh, and I'd barque. And it's that. And she's

I think she'll I'm going to the fact that's, I think to see that she,

she's, so it's, so that's I'm remember that I'm in the case. So,

so, so, so, so I'm embarked in this pattern that and a

minute, you'd have never to get in prison, but, you know, she,

she, she, she, she, I'd do six to six, five hours, four times a week,

and, you know, I'd arrive at home, it's the bordele, there was a chieff in the salon, there's affairs

to fucky, you know, that you know, that's, there's a yeah, yeah, there's things,

yeah, there's, I've been, I've seen, there, there, you know, you'd say, you'd say,

you'd say, it'd be, it's, and I'm not, and I'm, and I'm, I'm saying, oh,

it's correct, you could have to guard your chelf, for three years, but it's not more than three

years, you know, these astis of affords of my god, you know, there's plenty of to say,

but I'm going to to focus on the chef man, yeah, no, no, no,

I'm going. Yeah, even, I mean, today, I mean, today, I'm not,

you can't, I'm not, it's not, it's not, a stit by the same, I'm, when I'm,

there, a chef in my salon, a stout, and you're playing with two chants, create, not, not you're not, but I'm not, I'm sorry, you know, I'm trying, I'm afraid, and there's

three, four guys who sniffed with, and, you know, and it's what the situation that's right? Now, it's so. At a minute, she said, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, because there, it's, it's, direct of the same, you know, and, and, me, in my head, I had all done, you, you know, I had tried to save, you, you know, you can't, you know, you can't be a saver with someone who can't be able to save, you? You can't be a saverer when you, you have to be a saver?

Exactly. So, you know, at a minute, he's arrived at a situation where, you know, had one of his amy of three, and the chum of his friend

of his own of his other, he, he, he'd encourage there down. So, that a minute, I said,

you'd like, you'd like, you'd be in, my tabarnate. And, you know, I'm, and all the kit,

and, in my head, I had to all right, you'd have to try, you'd be searching a bottle of

, man, the roug, I'd parted at the frit, man. And during that, they're They've got all right, they've got to They've got to rolled

These things, man, man, they go, It's just not a sense So, so I'm in my head It's an 18th speck And then, I mean, I said, This day, man,

I don't know I think about I'm thinking that at this moment that of my life, but I'm saying, man, I'd want to

You know, I, you know, and I'm saying, I mean, the group, and I'm finished to finish, all.

So, so, I've tried to me suicide, this journey that, melatonine, melanchet

with a 30, 40 pinot, you know, sniffed, avallet all, I've got,

man, I'm, but I don't, I know how I, I, I've seen

to be able to that, you know, they're they've been home, they've put my

stock, you know, they've been on crissed on the lid, and, and when I was

moved, man, my chom my chom had been, and I, my in my

my head, it's passed in a situation in a way, but there's who said, it's not not quite at all to pass

to the same psychose. And as he'd be able to when the guy had debarked, my chum, he said,

you've started to be back, direct in the cord of the door, said, he had put in the head,

you let's he'd be in psychose toxic, literally, that's the quantity of the stock to pay,

you, you've been I've lost to the card. I mean, I used to the police, man. Ingo, I just, I let me batte with those other, and there's, you know, I'm raced, I'm in prison. But how it's it, for a kid of a 18-year-aggressive,

all that, you let's not march to his feet, you're in a wing of max with these guys who are used to do you a bit? You know, you see that? Sartre, when you're in the wing of max, you, you're adduce a little, man. And you got your, and there was a guy in this sentence

I think I'm in you know I'm trying to It's hard to But I'm But I'm But I'm in the

Max And then They'd You know, it's It's correct In the In the phone Yeah

Yeah Yeah, Yeah, But, you Teste a A bit He'd test a Yeah

So, So, So, It's just That, It's just that You know, I had 18

They had Pets of them have Pets You know, The guy They'd They'd be much

Such-s than me In 18 years, I'm not, in any case, it was correct. Paray, you know, it's a pass, and I'd, you know, and I'd gossed with us with others also, but it's an interesting, you know, and then, the guys, it started, you know, he'd had to stock, he'd been playing with all, so. So, the guys, he had just so far, gossed. And he had a sentance-vi, who had entered.

And, he made me well, you. And in the attempt of process, I imagine? Yeah. Because it had a point in a state of provincial? It's so. He was in-attent of a process, right? He was, he's

so, so he's Prevenue, in the phone. Prevenu, it's so. So, so he said,

yo, they're saying, yo, they're doing to shie. I said, don't, bro,

man, correct. And he, and he was fucked up, he, man, my chum,

and, and, he said, okay, it's good. He's returned in cellul,

my chum, and all right, you're all right, you're all, we're saying, we're, we're sorry,

we're , in the same, and you're like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, I'm saying, uh, it's not, but, you know, I mean, I said, I'm saying, you know, I'm going to come, you know, and, you know, man, it's been, it's been, it's been five years. I've got, of, the, of prison, I was, you know, in front of it, in fact, uh, uh, yeah, I had been pogned for brimprobation, okay, but, you know, I had had other stuff, and, you know, I'd have returned to, too, too, soon.

This time, I had ponied the sentence, one of my chum, that he had to stock in my chair, and I said, look, it's correct, it's beautiful. I'll do, what, I'm doing, what, two weeks? I, you banalized that, I just, it's not real. It's not really, you know, you'll give me the money, but I'd resorts, and I'll remorse your sentence, and it's correct.

You know, I resour, and, you know, I'd start, and then, I'd still after an other guy, because he was with my ex-man. I'd say, it's, it's, it had no sense. But there's a friend that you said when you were in sent a time, if you were trying to get a therapy? Yeah. You let's have you done?

Yeah, I was going. So, before you resorts for five days, you had been doing therapy? Yeah, I had made a therapy. I said, well, I said five years. Maybe it's a little bit more, but it's like it. But, yeah, I've done it, but it's nothing changed. I had just the good to me to live at the face,

you know, after, it's a therapy of a month, to say, to save, to save, to save, you know, I'm sure, and you've been saying, you've got to do it, you've not made for the good reason, fundamentally. No, no, at this stage that, I was out that I'd sort of more fast, so.

So, it's so, I'd have to go ahead and and then, you know, after that, I'd rentry, I'd rentry, I'd rentry, and then, a shot, I'd be ponied a four months.

I'd have won't six months, but I paid four months for, for American, and these affairs that. And then, after that, you know, it's there,

that it's, you know, that it's had come more, more of drug, plus of, plus of drug, At every time you resorted, you were to fall into, yeah, it was a derrape at each time, you know, I'd patted these sall bros, you know, I'd say, you know, I'd say, but it's sad bros, and then, man,

it was rendered that I'd just do G.H. I'd say, you know, and I, you know, I'd remember a shot, man, it, it's always man, man, and, you know, I was in accord with my ex-toxic, and blah, blah, blah, and, you know? You do you do? in seven

seven if you do you have a job, you view to what? It's so.

I'm I'm doing the drug or I'm do that I'm doing I'm doing the drug or

I'm braque you know, I'm a bit my head, I'm my time, my chum I'd do you're not,

but if you're a vendor that's not with my pot, I'd you'd be

so I'm I'm, so I'm I'm I'd say if, automatically man,

if you'd vent of the adobe, I've never heard of you, and it's that I've seen. It's sure, I'm trying. It's your pattern of life. Yeah. I'd say,

like, we're in trying, we're in trying, we'll have a man who'd buy his $2,000. We'll try a guy, man, we'll, we'll, we're back, you know,

we do, we do these piole, we do these mansons, we do garage, we we do char, we're in the way, and to consume

and party, and a day a day, a day, man. Hello, everyone. Cedric Bergeron. I'm in direct to my studio.

And I'm a couple seconds for you to talk to our new new new we've got to be two, three thousand visioned by episode and he was there.

And sincerely, if he had not been there, I don't even if this project that exists again because they've really

helped me financially with this project and I'm to hear me and it's for that I'm to say that

compare my prime. And there's a lot of people who me say, hey, you talk of

an affair of insurance, it's what, in privy, the people me I'm going to say, I'm going to tell to you'll explain to you

call it. So, compare my prime, he's specialise in insurance, vie. So, it's some of the conciergey in insurance life who are, for but they

have, no, case, refuse. It's their speciality, no, case, because when you

get an certain age as an age, if you're a dossier criminal, and if you've had been

a disease, like a cancer, it's extremely difficult, quite impossible to have an assurance

life. So, they're going to have. So if you're questions, you're not sure that's assurable, you think that's not sureable,

contact them, they, they won't have an assurance of life. It's important for not to let your in the

business when you can't be there. Compare my premium. I've got to a guy for $100, $100 for to buy me

to buy to buy to buy to buy, just for just to have the money, you know, it was really

a life of marred, you know, and then it's that. It's... It's a little little criminality mal, you know, it's not what I'm saying.

It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, because, you know, and that's, and so, you know, and so, our prisons are filled with people who have problems of consumption, and there's problems of health, and, you know,

you're, you're, you're a criminal, but you're, you're a criminal, what I call, the fortune, it's in the genre, you're all the day, you're not a criminal of career, to say, I'm going to go to a run,

I'm intelligent, I have to be a runner, to build a business, you know, in a business, if we're doing, you know, in a certain, but you said,

you said, you're like, the four months, and you said, there's, there's something that's going to, there's something that? Well, it's so, at a minute,

it's so, I had like, there, I'm a moment, it's, you, it's, it's really, you, it's really in the most

I think, to my life, you, you know, and I'm, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, you'd have an history

that one of my good pot for me it was really one of my chum and it's the kind of guy

that you get to get to get in to get to or go to get to get to gettoe with the

he's too pretty, so the the world it's and then after that I'm

and then and this night he said he said hey, there's there's

there's there's on board and all they've been remorse year and you're

I wanted me prove to, you know. So, you know, I was... So, I was going to see, you know, it was all the guys, you know,

they were there, you know, he had a, there was a there was a man, and he,

he had been to me and he made and he said, hey, I'm sorry, we're going to that, I'm

no problem with you, you know, he said, you know, he'd say, he'd be there He was in the mess, it's just after, you know, and it's sure, man. He me, sir, man. I said, it's correct, me.

I like the more people who put their cooil, man, and who come to say to excuse me than, that's, like, he's on callist, and, man, I'm just the same sull the gull, man, two hours later, he came to be, and he said, they've tried to me pungy. I'm even not trying to, like, to understand. I'm entering in the bar, man,

I got a bottle, I patted that in the face direct, there passed, maybe four hours on the table of operation, and, me, I'm just, I had 18 years, and it was my first chef of violence, I was my first chief of violence? Well, it was not your first chef of violence? Well, in sentence, yes. Okay.

You know, I had used these affords that had not a rapport really with the violence. You know, but your first shift, you, you're planting a guy in the court of the port,

you're playing with the police? Yes, but I had not ponied, you know, because I had had used some, you know, you know, you'd me refer to think of that but I,

I've done the coke for that the charge should be acquitted you know, I'm trying. So,

I'm going to, so the time that's made, it's just an attendant for that, because you have not

been able to, you know, I'm, in the phone, I had passed. So in the fact,

you're not to pay your victim with the coque for cartes to the plaint. It's

so, I've made two times, so. I, I paid an other victim that I had

made, that had brought to the charges that I had batted and he's made the way of the

pay for you pay it and it's it's great like that you think you pay for you pay for

to get yeah well, I'm I've seen also I've seen paid that

to be paid to be paid me to drop for drop for yeah sure that's clear

I've seen some do you know there's yeah so yeah yeah

at minute the police was there yeah I'm saying yeah I'm I've never been a business criminal, like, you know. No, but it's what I said to tell you, it's so.

But the bottle in the face of an infubourer, and if I'm not trombed, it, it's not going to pass in the media, this story. Yeah, it was in the journal, this story. I'm just, you know, it's a... It's all, you know, it's, it's a lot of cabotetetre this story, you know, when it's happened, you know, it's... So, the two-a-one-one-one-one, you've got to be armed with lesions. Yeah.

But, like, this shot, I was pretty because, I mean, in my head, man, I said, because I'm not

ponied on on the coup, you know, when I was pushed it, and then, then after that, I'm saying,

you know, I'm, you know, I'm assuming, but, you know, that's for him, you know,

I said, you've said, you're saying, you know, I said, he'd say, he'd just not just not

to talk to me, you know, I've been, you know, he had all, you know, it's, so,

it would have done a other cut, man. I said, you know, you know, when you're in this world there's

there's not there's there's not there's not a lot of there, you know, they're not

they're going to they'll never nothing to say man, and they're people who are concentrated on us

yeah, it's so, it's so this world like, like you like you like you're

there's a there's there's a thing, you know, for a lot, you know, for a shot,

for for the cash, for the dope for, I'd say, my honor with the mentality that you had, yeah, you'd have never had that, you know, and even

even even with, you know, I'd be able to, man, I'd have had to the misery, you know. You know, is it in which, that's been to be the boutteen? In 2008, it's, it's, like, 2015, let'sone, 16?

Maybe it'd be in 2019, probably. 20s, okay. 2012, okay. So, like, that's So I've Ponyed my two

years, I've done after I'm after my six months. But I'm before we're after we're

probably, see you how the victim has been going to be you? I think he's

he's quite quite out with a balaf but he he's not had not had been

the that I'm that I'm capote you know at the end it didn't

you know the guy he had nothing is made, you know, it's because my own chum, he wanted to make it cast a gull,

who's been in trying to me to say, he has done that's not, you know, it's not, you know, it's not true, you know, it's all right, you know, it's just for that I'm doing, you know, more than, you know, later, I've done, you know,

but, you know, I've been introspecting in this situation, and I, and, I've been the guy, man, who had, in my head, I, you'd be the aggressor, but I've been a victim, that, hey, it's

not, and so, it's hard to say, to admit, you know, to say, hey, I'm going to the victim, but, you know, it's all the time the bargain to say, hey, it's a lot, hey, it's to the fault at the other, you know, you know, I'm saying, you know, I'm never, of my fault. I've never, it's, it's, too, it's all the fault

men, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a fault, man. And, you know, today, you're able to say that you're 100% responsible to do you. Yeah, I'm 100% responsible to all of what to do you, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry for that, because it's not all the world who arrives at it, Well, yeah. I think that, you know,

and I'm all the time a little time a little, you know, I think the sole affair,

why, you know, you know, you know, I, you know, I've all the time you, you know, I'd say,

you know, my father, when I said, that, he'd not his medicaments, you know,

my mother, she had said, that's been, that's been, that, that I had finished by an

We were to talk later in a therapy, but I finally by avowal that I'm saying I'm sorry, young, young, my mother, she said, if your father, don't know these medications, you've got to tell, what do you know, because he can arrive to what? And just before the event

fatidic, or who had petted a psychos in the apartment, and he said that he'll have us to sue, and that a little after, he, he has made his suicide. I mean, I was I know that they'd probably but I'd

but I'd don't know, because in my head, the family, we're not counter, you know, it's like that.

Some of the reason for the reason for the reason for we gel, some of the sentiment, you know, that's an

state of event that you know that's, you know, this culpability that, you know, the consumption it helps to

not think to be, you, sometimes, you know, why I'm sorry, you know, Why I'm talking, why I'm talking about that, in the console, why I have to have been defunce?

But, sometimes it's just an event like that we're not able to put the doad on. And sometimes it's, you know, 10, 15 years, that we arrive, that's just to... Yeah, but we'll finish by, I think that when they're talking about... I mean, a minute, it's... You know, I've finished by understand

maybe why... But, you know, that's when you're going to creus it, and it's been long, you know, like I said, after having started, but, well, in my sentence, prison, it's for that. Don't know. So, I said, I wanted to

bring to you to get to get to be in prison, you know, I'm ready, a real shift. Yeah,

because you've always made some, yeah, it's a real, that's a real shift. I was, okay, and I'd say,

okay, and I'd say, then, and I, I'd be ready, I'm, I'm not, stressed by the , you know,

a little stress, like, you, when you, you know, when you're, you know, that's, you know, that's, you know,

But it's not been long that I've made kind of a little my place at that over that it's not a great prison but a prison

but a prison it's a prison paris and at a minute I'm remember, you know I'm glad I said my chum

Garb, yeah at the beginning he's dead he's more he has finished by being part to be parted

and he's more it's a military, you it's happened in the journal and brief that it so it's

has made of what because it's The first person who had been to be brought to the Palais of Justice before the Palis Justice

and I said we said, we were on on the brus on a man, and we had fainted

all the night we had counted the hours, he said, he said, without any one to see,

it's all right, you know, it's over, you know, I'd parted in the palace, and, you know,

I had put my sentence. And, when I was in there, he's mort, you know, and,

you know, I remember the last moment I went, you know, you know, it's I'm making sure today, you know, to not have been there, you know, but, you, it's for so also that I say, you know, that's already, you know, when you're 17 years, you know, you're not to run up to count, you know, the prison, these awful, you know,

when you're trying. And that's up to the end of your yo, no, you're trying to get with that, you know, this epa that that will... When you said, you, to try, you know, trying to try to be a job, that, you know, I had to have drawn to, you, I control to some, you, you know, be able to be on. bar, have a nabit, and the chbeen, and we have this

little d'osier, too, it's the same. Yeah, it's it's not worse, because I'm a guy who's a guy who can't, you know,

and that's a bad prestance, you're going to and I'm sure to me, and you know, but you know, it's about

to be able to get to assurances, and you're that's a question, that's on, that you know, that's true,

that's true, that's true, that's all you, it's all right, it's all right, it's different, because I'm, it's all,

the young sometimes, you know, hey, it's a good it's probably, you know, you know, you know,

it's a lot, but you know, a lot of, a lot of, a job normal, and that's not four seven per

seven, and that's an Nonde accent, but that it's cost more to be sure,

that's you've done, you've done, you've done plenty of conry that don't absolutely

that's absolutely nothing that's it's all the time. I've certain affairs that, you know,

I've batted the world for a things, you know, just because we were just because we were in the gang, man, the

group, and he got it's going to he, he's, he's going to be able to, okay, we'll sort. You know, sometimes you don't

really really really, you just, you do just, you do you know, because, you know, if it's the game, it's the same

if it's a march in prison, you have to be a little, you know, if you're not, you're not, you're trying,

so, so, It's a brosier, there's a couple of affairs, you know, I've been with a guy in a cellul. You know, I've never done with a lot, you know, you know, you know, you know, there's times where there's a lot who, you know, it's a lot, you know, it's a tappseyeole of things of wing, plus than other things, like, you. It's so, it's very relaxing. There's respect to a moment, it's so.

of things of things of things are normal, not normal. But I understand. Normal, a little, normal for someone who is there and who lives that, but for someone who has never lived that, it's not something of normal, you know, but in this element that, you know, we've often talked,

but, you know, clackage of port, the vol of Tilly, the manned of respect, it's a... Exactly, the mark of respect, the charge of someone who are bizarre, you know, it's not the choice, it's not the choice, you know, the odors of someone who's bizarre.

It's not, exactly, you're not the choice. When someone do to take to take your douch, Let's take your dush. But not you Annau the part You know, it's In fact, there's a lot,

you know, there have to operate a couple of people but for that I'm not I'm not used a problem

because, you know, you know, I do you, I do you feel what I'm in prison, you do you have to do

have a problem you know, and you get your beef by yourself and you do you do do you

do you do you're not you're not you're not you're not so. So, so it's,

so it's, so it's, so it's so it's been it's been for that, but you're

resorted after, and then, I'm in the time of the COVID. The COVID commenced

and it's in the time of the PCU also. So, you know, I'm not

had been been able to work to work, you know, I'm clacked to the

PCU and ah, yeah, and I got to get in the cold,

man, and it's solid, there, and at a man I was I had

an objective in my head, my my objective in my

My mainthe, it was to start from my milieu. You know, I mean, I say, you know, I'm going to do you know, I'm going to because it's too

toxic for me here, you know, I'm going to return in prison, I'll make go to go and all the time, so I'm going to

get to back to the pack of sack, man, no, man, I, like, I dropped there, man, I'd put in

the taxi for to go ahead to get some I had a good intention, but I was still in console. You know, I was

to arrive at Quebec with, perhaps a ounce of pudd and a ounce of petamine, you know, I'm really

still, you know, you're not in a good mindset for to do a 180, but I'm saying,

I'm going to get a man, ste, blinded, man, I'm, stay, I'm trying to

sell, man, we're going to be able to be bouchete us, man. I'm saying, at least, I'd have not

person who would be manipule and I'm , you know, I'm able to do you're able to do you're able to mass.

Then, I made count, you know, I mean, I know, I mean, I know, I mean, I'd say, so I'm trying to be with the

world, and, and, a day, man, I was arached well, and I, and I,

I was parted in bose, man, and, and I, I was gonna go, man, and I was embarked in

an history, and there had a deal-hour in bose, I'll be braked. Brackier at 10 o'clock, man,

well, I, he, he, he, I was beat and the guy he got me he got to

he got to they've been a dealer that's been a dealer who had been that's it's a marre

like a sentence I'm saying I'm saying a citizen if I'm a student that's a part

of the game yeah you're not you're not you're not I don't know to that I'm saying

I can't think he can't think he's a dealer that he's a dealer who put

his stock Yeah, that, I imagine that's the boot that's a bout he said, he said, he said, he said, he said to go to

and he's and he's gone, and he said, well, well, yeah, so they're going to me

and then, and were, but you're, did you still on probation at this moment that? Yeah, sure,

yeah, yeah, because when you out of two one, I think you tombe in probation for a minute, but certainly,

especially if you're quite, you know, I don't know, because, because, like, I said, you know, even the general of probation, they said,

Chris, we're on the stee, you're supposed to report, yeah, I'm supposed to be, you know, I'm a little

like, you're like, they're not, they've been they've been I'm obliged, man, I don't know what,

I'm trying to after me, it's a cause of COVID, I don't know no doubt. Ah, probably probably,

because had you had you been, in the phone, you've been in transition when you're out of 13 months,

I said, no, when, you know, when you, when you, When you do you make your time full,

you know, but, you know, two, two, one, 16 months, he would have to be to

get to, you know, but, normally, I think there's someone who can't, you know,

that's to report, and I'm just falked that, I'm called. You didn't even put to Mandeau,

there, I didn't, yeah, I was clear, I mean, in my head, I said, but supposedly,

I had perhaps a probation, at some moment, you know, that's clear for, to take up to take up

every other, you're in four months after a man I'm in I'm like a guy for his stock

you know it's not that had no mindset to change to change of life yeah

it's it would not have not it and then and and then

and this day it's it's me that's me that's because I had

heard if I had listened if I had heard he'd he'd he'd be

not to go not this guy that but But I, you know, he's totally at a research to chillet with someone, you know, that I was going to be, man, and he'd

embarked in this story. And, me, I mean, to say, no. But, you know, at the same time, you know, because you know, I'm saying, I'm sorry, because you know, and then to say, I said, you're going to be victimized,

and, you know, it's a little bit. You know, it's like, you, you know, he's not embarked in this toilet, you, you know, I'm saying, you know, I said, I'm sorry, you know, I'm just, you know, we're not the kind of guy that's not the kind of guy who will

Well, yes, monsieur, I'm going to see. You know, the kind of guy, he'll be shied, mage the man. You'll force not to do that. I'm going to cry something like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, in this sense that that I'm going to say,

it's more in the sense, let's talk, in my head, when you're one of my friends, you know, I'm, you're a little, I've got to have the difficulty with that, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're a guy, influenceable.

Yeah, we'll say, we're saying, let's see, I'm, you know, I'm going to, and, you know, I, you know, In my head, we have chillied four, five times together, you're a boy, you're a boy, you're a bro, man, and, you know, I'm extremely

miserably, man, with the problems of the other, you know? You can't do you do to find, like when you've to start, we're doing to look,

we're doing the approbation, you want to be there to find out, you know, you're going to be a tap in the door, you'll be cool, you see, it's all that. It's all right

to find that's totally of bad choice, but at the moment, I'm trying, I'm not, I'm going to do I'm not, you know, look at me, say, me, I'm good, I'm

and applauded me, and then, Chris. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're trying, I think. So, you, it's, so, that's what, that's, you know, but, you know, I was, you know,

I was trying, and, you know, so, you know, they've been, not, they're not, they're not, on, okay, they're, they're not, and, I'm not,

and, I'm, I've had a coax, on, and, and, and I, I said, that's perfect, man, just, man, and, you're, It's been passed.

You're going to? I'm going to. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah, you're in boasts. It's in fact that I'm going to... So, I'm going to...

So, yeah, I'm going to... But, yeah, it's sure. I'm remorse in prison again. A new episode, there. There, in Wynne, that I was in... At St.ville, it was... It's not... It's a...

It's there, uh, after two months and keck, I mean, I said, yeah, probably that I'd rather that I'd have to rested to what, a therapy or, to-com. And then, this therapy that, man, to change, it's called the Ruchet. I don't know if you've got to hear you. Yes, I've done to talk about it.

Yeah, I've got to hear of it. It's confrontant. It's confrontant. And before, it was more confrontant because if you'd pass up the third step that appellate, you'd be out, and you'd have met in the den. But today, it's been the same, today, at cause of these affairs,

but it's a case, but it's something, I was going to do. You're not the first who's sitting there and who is all right, and they've been in fact, they're in a tabernic. But it's not made for all the world, but it's necessary for certain. Yeah, but for me, in my case,

it was, and I'm glad. And I'm, and I'm sorry, you, to have been there, you know, because you bring the person that I was re-entry when I was in therapy, you'd even not even not to talk today, you, you know,

you'd say, it's not at all the same goal, you know, you. I was really not... You had to be a lot of... You had to be... They're not physically,

but they're not mentally, they're at... In the prison, I'd say, I'd say, I'm going to be eight months and I'm

even not to be accompanied, man, but it's... It was a... Coup-poy, right, and then... And, you know, they, man, he...

He'd be... I'd be young, so, so, so, you know, on a group of six, I think, we were four to pass,

And they've They've done To play with With me You'd say You're You're going to With the mindset

That's No, I'm Back in mindset the Gros that I'm Yeah, I'm I'm saying Man, I'm playing And I'm

You're sure You're too You're not You're not a You're not a chive That's also pleasant than the other I'm playing

In addition Because when When I was Because then I'd go to my Two-Chief of Violence And then Me, he was

I'd like, you know, you know, so you can't. So, you know, I was trying to six a man, you, it's long, I'm not, I was just, I was there, I'm going to cry six years ago. I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, a little bout, like,

that, then, that, I had been, alternative, like, I was, I'm saying, to, you know, to pay, but, right, but, you're, like, to go, I, you know,

I'm not, you know, long time, you, and, you, and, the pen, you, and, it, you know, I'm, more what's what you know, I'm just like, I'm going to, I don't know how it's long, you know, if you've got to have some of it. So, so, then, the guys, you know, all the guys who were in the wing with me, those other parted all for these eight, the eight,

these, eight, the nine, it, it was, they're all these guys who's all day, so, you know, I'm saying, and then, the guy, he'd say, ah, chef of violence, two times, you know, you go somewhere toona, you know, and then, you're going to say, and then, you're going to If I'm going to, it's going to, it's going to end up with an story, man. And I'm saying, man, I'm sure to say, and I'm going to play, but I'm not going to feel like,

but I'm the impression that's an interview that will be doing a bit. Well, yeah, I'm sure. You know, I do it for because you're going to to talk to young, it's what you've said.

Exactly. But, you know, I'm an impression that, you know, to re-acute this podcast that, I think, will be to be doing also. Maybe, in the case,

I'll expect. I'm, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think you're on. I think you're on, But, you know, clearly, he... But, you know, there's...

There's a bit of crass in-leve, there's a bit of crass in-leve. There are some that's... No, I'm here. So, you know, I had a pre-in-avocour

it, it's a... It's a, it's a... He'd been already he, you know, that's, so, so, so, so, so... You've got... Not that...

He'd be... He'd say, He'd be... He'd have been... And, you'd be courageous, I'd like, yeah, I'm gonna go and... I said, man, I'm going to go for six years.

I've got no alternative. And then, the guys, they've said, you know, is you who you're doing? Or, it's he'll do you? I said, you're right so, I said, I said, look,

I'm going to, I'm going to put it the more, and you're to put up, man, and then, and they say, okay, but he'd say, if I'm going to

say, he didn't be sure of my capacity, he'd say, Chris, you'll restra never, It's the fun

That's the fun Yeah I mean He said If you're If you're Really He said

We're doing, He said, We're doing, So, So, So, I'm He said,

And then He didn't Because, he He thought He said That's not That's

So, So, So, So, So, So, I've And,

then, I've had been to turn , you, to, do, my

thing, the problem is, there, I had full condition. There had had no

the cellular, not to consume, and have not the right of cellular in 2023, you do you do with a cellular?

So, automatically, I'm obligated all the time to have a cellular to me, and to me catcher, you it's like...

It's like... It's not, beyond the therapy? Because, but now, so, you've done the therapy, and you've not had a sentence?

No, no, I've had... It's just that's skiskepe, because, like, I'm going to... Six years, I've done,

six years, I've done... No, no, they've been... They've been They were out there, you know, after the therapy, I was out. But in attendant, my sentence. Okay.

I was like prevenued, not sentencing. But you're free, you're in, in the front of, you're in, prevenue in society. It's so, exactly. On the attempt of process. You're liberated in the attempt of process. It's so. So, like, I had already made almost 11 months, if you calculate the, that's almost three months that I had made in prison, plus the therapy.

The therapy. So, then, I resour. And then, I mean, I'm saying, okay, man, I'm, well, he had changed, me, in my head. I mean, I said, it's a total 25, man. I did, man. So, like, I'm going, I'm going to

get to search an ASP construction. I've made my entry, man, these basins. Just, before that, I was found a company of construction. There, I said, oh, guy, I've never done that, but you've got to me engage.

I mean, I said, I go to search a sack a clue tomorrow, if you're there, I'm going to, man, in the class of a cackeglu, I'm engaged. I've rested, with two years, and I've got to be able to those other. I was, I'm returning to school.

I've made a course in paint-in-bottiment. And then, I'd do you know, and there's... With a... Inattending, a tonne, it's on top of the head, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm capote, man. And, I'm... Because, I... Because, I...

I had allude, you, it's all... It's, you, it's all about all... And, me, between time, I've encountered a person really exceptional, you know, in my life, in the phone... A girl?

Yeah, a few. And, you know, still there today, you're still there for me and all the kit, you know, and it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'd have never been the person that I'm

if she, she, she'd have not been there, you know, I'd have done a lot more than me, I think,

you, so, so, so, so, to help her heart. She, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, her she, she, she, she, her to do pushing on all, man, the music, everything, you know, that's, you know, in my head, I was дома, she said, and I'm able, you,

and, you know, and I, she's, all the tapped down the door that you've got to have kept in their face, she did, she said, she'll bring the last day, she's, the good way that you had the best of she said. She's she's she's

and she's to be in a lot of and she's what with the sentence to get to the time?

Yeah, after two years, that's almost two years, one year, a couple and more

and plus, it's been it's all the time reported and the morning, the avocca he said,

okay, I do, we do, we have to a deal? He said, no, it's four

years. I'm after all of what I've made, four I have been to say that's what I'm proud of for me

like I'm in the road of the way, I've made to do you have to do you have to say man,

four and you have four four and I said you're out so I'm trying a other so I got a guy

I gotcha and five there, Chris, I said, I said, you know, you're doing

to me sort to do that there, so we've made, we've made, and report, and report and

and then he said, I'm going to he'll give he offer these possibilities but I I've ponied

two and more a day again again. It's that's that's

a day I'm at summed when? You're when? I'm I'm

I'm I'm I think it's in 2020 2022, maybe

maybe maybe more later no 24 I'm in the date

there's you're because we're supposed to know yeah we're

we're supposed to It's for that we're That's why it's That's why it's That's why we're That's why we're Because you

You know, you It's been Because you've You know, You've talked I'm talking I'm in therapy Yeah,

I'm, look, I mean, I Remember, I remember that I said to At a minute, you know I've said like

Well, it's not regular, because you think that you thought you that you'd be there,

and it's for that you'd not come in because that it's a continued, man, it it's a period

in the time because Because, I, what, what I was going to do, for my two-year-old, but, you know, I, you know, the person, the person I told, that's changed my life, I'm blessed, too, you know. Because, me, at this moment,

that, it was, you know, I'd, you know, that I'd, you know, that I'd consume pittal, that, you know, that, that, you'd, that's... You'd have to be, that, you know, that I'd be, that, you know, that, you're really...

Mm-hmm. I, you know, in, you know, in the case, you're calm, man, posed, man, man, I was, I thought, man, he'd re-envoyed in the gym and all right. I was in St.Ville, I said, it's a fact,

direct, man, it, it's crashed, directly. It's, it's, it's, it took five, six years. Five, six years, man. I was, I was already re-embarked in the affords, man, and then, and, the conso, but,

now, I thought that, you know, I saw that, you know, I was allied with other people, and, you know, during the two years, you know, I, did, you know, and the violence, during these two years,

she had you been while you re-ponged your while you're trying to, you're trying to get rid of boy, man. Yeah. Seriously,

for real, I'm really, I'm done too in Esty, for real, I remember, even a situation with one of my chum,

we had been a, you know, we had been a bit, and I, I was doing a show to rap. And,

and I had debarked in a place, and, man, it was all my chums, he'd all my chums, he'd say,

man, I'm not be there. And there's there's a there's there to be in you know, you'd be able to

see, you know, I'm saying, I'm going to be there, man, I'm, it's, I'm going to buy a beer,

but, you know, I'd not, I'd be, I'd not, I'm not, I'm not, you know,

really, really, and, and, you know, I mean, I said, in a therapy, what he's

me had been, to, you know, I'm doing, so, I'm going, to, you know, it's, to be able,

nothing consumed and everyone everyone had consumed around the road you know, it's just that it's it's a

man, the beat to me and say I'm really really added after that's it's a car but it's

a time, it's a time you know, you think, oh, Chris, I'm the control, you know,

it's so, you know, you know, because when we think we're like, that we can't get the control,

it's like, you know, that's not, you know, always, but you're not too, I'm not sure,

I'm not, no, I'm not sure, I've got to confirm, I'm sorry, I'm trying to do. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm. And I'm, I'm often, you know, when it's jovial, you know, we're doing fun, you know, that I retombed. And, you know, for the way, it's really, it's really,

and since then, man, I've been consuming to Coke, it's been, it's been a couple. Well, no, because, like, you just, you know me to say, that when you're playing your chival, you're going to return to five. Yeah, but I'm not consumed. Okay. I've consumed, but I've not consumed to code. Okay.

That, really, the, the, the most difficult thing that I had had to arrest, it was the cold. That's your dad, that's... It's really the thing that's really the

minute I consume the violence in back. And you have made how many times it's on two-moy-1?

I've done, because if I calculate, you're not supposed to be there today,

no, no, but it's in 2024, two years? Well, it's not in 224,

it's a little before, but it's because I have to dising to distinguish

the dates, but it's in 2022 and 22nd and 2003, but I I mean, I made

eight months, and there's been, there's there, I mean, I mean, I'm trying to do you know, and I'm trying to make

in the affairs to drop and these things stuff, you know, to get, okay, excuse me, that,

to elaborate, I'm not, no, but I, no, but I'm okay, okay, I'm, okay, I'm okay, I'm

okay, I'm, but I'm just not, you know, You know, but... I want to put you to put in the trouble no, I'm not no, I'm not

a trouble there's, but I'm able to count, I'm the same in TikTok, but, you know, I'm

I'm trying to dropy, man. Perfect. And then, I, you know, I was salient to the whole, and then,

and then, and then, and, and I, and I, and, I, you know, the counter

at zero, you're reparty, you're parted, all the two last years that you've done, you co-stache,

there, I, colliced at man, Stie, man, I, I've got to,

I'm doing, I'm doing, you know, it's like, it's like when the next year, and I,

I said, man, I thought never, I've vire to boot for butt,

but I mean, I'm so I'm sure. What I said, you had a little

criminal, you're, there, you, like, you, like, you, like, you,

it's a bit, yeah, it's because that, you, the, you know, the, she said,

she, she, she, make you not influenced so I'm in my head I'm saying I'm not

I'm influenced I'm influenced the other you know I'm afraid but I'm I'm sorry I'm saying

I'm saying I'm not I'm not if I'm not if I'm embarked there but it's it's not

not barque in the plan of person I'm going to get to the mind that's so so I'm

so you're so I'm and then you're getting it's all over envoy so the other board

and say the the other bar, a tell person, tell person, you know, it's been at the end,

I'm in, at the end, I was in the end up in just in the toilet, man, see, I was,

see, and I'm, and I said, man, it was about me, man, I was, you're getting,

psychotic, there, the noise, man, that's repete, the port, he clack, that,

so, man, I'm, at fine, at fine, because, I was, because, I was,

I was, I was, I was, the three and three years. You know, I'd take a lyrica, men, in a dose extreme, you know,

there was nothing that I, you know, I didn't, you know, I'd say, I'd, I'd, but, but I, I'd, I'd,

I'd, I'd, but it's, but it's, but it's, it's... It's, you know, I'm not, you, in my head,

I'd say, yeah, it's, it'd change to anything, it, you know, it'd change to hear, it, you know, but, in my head,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean four years, I've been four years, but, you know, it's, it's,

it's a few, I think, I'm sorry, you know, we're doing, we're going to be able to get to be sure.

You're not, you're not the first, you're not the last, yeah, but, yeah,

there, there's a day, and then, man, I mean, I said, you know,

there had there were, there were, there, because it's me, because it's me that's me

that's, and, And then I was made these allies but at a minute

I'm able and I'm in separation with the person I'm talking to I'm at the person I was trying to because I was

I'm running that I'm trying to to cross these arms out, as I'm going to get to get to

I'm at I'm in trying to make to make some for these boot and I'm I'm not

there now then I'm I said I let's, I'm trying I'm too, I'm too Rendsu Foo.

I'm not good for you're trying to and that it's extremely blessed, because she, she, she, she,

she'd have never, she, I've really had a misery there's a bit of a little bit to say, I'd say,

I'd let's partier, and, you know, and, so, so, I'm, so, I'm, I've continued this stuff

of this stuff of far, but I, but I'm not, I'd say, I'm going to rest here

all my life. It's my place, you know, I'm doing I'm doing I'm doing

in a time, I'm trying after I'm doing that so that's my life. Yeah, it's sure.

I was run too long, it's extremely low. For a guy of a mid-20en to see?

Oh, I'm done in my head, I'd say, man, I'd be out of

there, man, and fuck that the girl. I'm, you know, and I'm trying, I'm trying,

at a minute, you're a I mean, I remember, I've had a sort of message of these caves, but, you know. No, no, man. You know, you know, I'm ticked your shoes

new, you know, it's that's, you know, it's a cave, ah, it's, no, man. You know, I mean. Because, you know, I mean, I, you know, I'd, you know, I'd, but I'd say, but

I'd say, I'd say, I'm going to try to, you know, I'd be given a chance, you know, and I'd be done a chance in making programs, and at a moment

I mean, I mean, I mean, the woman that's a friend yeah, and I, and I,

I, she had, she said, she said, she's on crossy of, this day that,

it was ravaged. I mean, there was a , man, there was nothing that I, I was, I could patty

to 30 seconds and she, and she, she had been there, and she, and she, she,

she, she said, I'm going, I'm crossy these chimes you have

two choice to take. You have one choice to bring but you're a lot of

you're a two options but you have one at this moment when she when she

I'm saying it I was in war with a other guy that it was

it's really it it was it you know you there was there

there was there there was going to yeah it was I was I was

I was I was pretty when when he said it had been

a light in my head, man. I was, like, and then it was a rest to mind, and I've had put a

program with a toxico for just to be able to get to or have an access to a therapy

or to what the same. Transition. You're chance of because you do you don't know

I'm made a one but it's the sole that's the only time they've been

to make to make to be to the way, the way the fashion to have used

to say that I had made a screen physical for to catch a

interrissage of drone in a report. It's it's a fact that I'm not

I'm not not good to have it's not not so it's not I'm in my head

so that so that it's sure man I remember I remember I had had had

a a meeting with a toxico and the toxico you she

she'd like she was like she she said she she said

a message a message a little semblance to the she had said my telephone I'm saying

it's a oh my man it's a sign you know I'm I'm I'm in the family

and I'm I'm out of and I said I said we put a carton put the drape

on the black man even I said we say it's a it's a question it's just

because me it's a story that the guy me had an issue that the guy macked

it's like it's a glass I mean, I call this. I had refaed a drop by after two years before in therapy.

I mean, because I had been able to have the time, but you see, I thought you would be trying

to try to the diabbe, man, so I've got a drop the day before. Two days

before, and, you know, I'm in and then, then I said, I'm going in therapy,

me. And then, I had the choice to rest and to be maybe 20, 000,

or to put, help, and to try to to have the person that I'd like, you know, I'm trying to

see that, and I'm a brief instant of lucidity chrism and important? Yeah, I'm

and then, and, and, I'm attending to go to an place that would me help,

but I had to find like the ruchet me, I, that's a shot that,

but I, I've not found the ruchet by all, I've found out, I've

a therapy that's even more than what I think. They've been on those other, they've called off the earth, mal-sale, on a mechante. I'd say, not the name of the therapy, it's not really nothing,

but they, in the case, they, they've played on top, and, you know, I'm, you know, I'm just to know the people who want to me, you know, and to recognize

that I've got some fault. I've, I've, I've had, there in this shot, but it's, but it's, It was not part of all the place for me, you know, and I'd say, as well, as you said,

the Ruchy, it was made for you, it's not made for all the world, you know, this place that is maybe be good for other person and not for you. I don't know if it's... I don't know,

it's all the case, it's as well, but, in any case, I've finished by be allonged. They've been relonged nine months, and there,

he'd want me to guard at durine-determine. So, I've had made eight, plus nine. I'd say, you're going to ever out of the other barnac.

So, so I've made transfer my dossier. It had failed to call the agent of probation

and I made an avocal there and I received to transfer my dossier in Quebec. I've

made four five months plus and that it's that I got to finally to completely

and that it's so at this moment it's a year, it has been a year. Have you

have you have been reconquired mademoiselle? I'm reconquery I was reconquery a year

a month after a quay but now at this moment I'd say I'm I'm it's all

it's for other things but it's not it's not in line with it and how

it's how it last year I'm I'd for real from the from

I've been I've I've been invests crissman I I'm three jobs you know

I'm a job in emin also four. You know, I've worked, I've been invested

in my music. You know, I'm a croce a lot of that, because for me it's a

life that's important. And, and, you know, I'm to get to positive.

And, in this moment, I'd say, that I'm not part of all to turn to a

more part of the way, I'm don't be fettists. If the music

that doesn't It doesn't matter anything. It's not. At least I'll have I've tried. Okay. At least, I'm done a, I'm done a two, three

years, I'd say. It's correct, but, you understand? It's not, it's not, it's not, no, no, no. And, and I'm, I'm, I'm not

your music. I'm sincere with you, I know your music. I'm a fan fined of rap, Keb, so I'm going to go, I'll go, I'm

going to discover your music with great, with grand pleasure, I'm doing, I'll go to discover that with a grand, there's a turn

that's coming, and there's with a clip and it's the crime not paid not so she's

she's not she's she's not the message in your music are in general positive?

Yeah, all the new tune that I have been in general

positive and more more conscious than than the text that I think that

I'm important to guard the name of Fubbrack Yeah because you that's

a good name of emcee, by the way, but who can have a certain connotation not nice, but in a meantime, it's a part to kicket? I've had,

I've re-refleashed a bout, to say, I'm saying, change you the name and all the kit, and maybe

that a day I'll change the name for, because, because, I'm, in-time-tel,

what I want, is to be to be recognized a part- as a artist and no, in time just

a rapper, because what I do I'm able to do, I'm able to do, and you're not person more placed

in front of for that because I I've also did also do rap and I'm a minute

I'd never had what I'm found in humor but it's the art for me

important and that that works or that can't you can't when you don't

that you don't know because you're not more an artist because you don't don't gain

your life your life in time artist it's a plus but it's not a necessity. It's not, it's not,

it's important. A artist, it's important. If person people, they're doing, they're not important. It's exactly

important. But in the boss, we did that for samus so, so, at the limit,

I mean, here, I'm there, I'm it's a way professional but if it's not, it's not, it's, it's,

it's, it's it's a great experience to have had had been. Howe. Howe fit? How,

And then you work, you work, you're too well-enturred, you're doing still in contact with your mother? Oh, yeah, my mother, at this moment it's all right,

that's why, you say, she said, that's a lot of, yeah, it's a question, yeah, it's a something, but I think she, she, she, it's a good

state, you know, it's, you know, and then, my friend will be married, so, you know, there's plenty of things bell, that's

so, you know, you've got to to have to be in these little things that. And then your own people that you frequent,

you know, I restrain that enormously, you know, I, I, I've got to maybe four

of my chums, five of my chums, let's be, and in this moment, they're all to be quite

to get, that's the people who have evolved also. Yeah, that's so, I've been long time

with us other the guys, it's, it's finished, and, you know, they're they're not they're not

no more, I return there. And the violence? The violence, even, it's finished, not much so. You're able to... Yeah,

but there's been there's a lot, there's a lot. A guy who's caught in chie, that's... No, that's... I live well,

even that I'm that, you know, if I can't do you, I'm not to trouble really with that. It's...

I've tried in comfort there on on the on on the time. But, no, for the violence I live well,

you know, I mean, you know, certain things are just that's just that I've been to learn to be because, you know, I've ever, I've been really

to be more patient and be distressed, and when they're going to re-invoy there, it's made up, you know, to get, you, the aggressivity

and all the kit, and I'm still still I'm sure of my affair that, you know, I'm not sure, that, you know, I said,

you'd rebutt in prison? No, no, no, really not. Yeah, seriously, man. Because, you know, it's a 20-7, and all of that. Yeah. There's all the time.

You'll have all. Yeah. Your mother, you're going to lose? Oh, that's sure. I think it's rough, what I said, you know, but, do you understand? It's the thing that's off of that. You have to be, prepare, it, it's going to be, it's a bit of shock. Yeah, yeah.

It's not that, and you deal it the way that you deal the last year with that. You have 15th and the story, but it's a deboucher long time. Yeah, it's a debouching long time. You know, the suicide of your son-of-year-sured on 10-year-old? You understand? Mal, salle.

But, no, for real, for real, all the experiences that I've been to have tried to to me forge a little more a carapace,

a bookly, let's get, at these approves, I, I think. And, you know, I think that I'm a

more prepared than someone that's ever to have never had to, you because, you know, I've said, you know,

I've been, you know, and it's, you know, it's been not pretty It's a great thing, my girl, yeah.

It's been when you, you, you, reponged your time before you, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, the drone,

and it's, and it's, and it's, it's a year, I think, you know, the kind of guy you, you're not

the choice, to rest in the line. Yeah, I, you know, and it's for that's also, that, you know,

I'm, you know, I've applied to have the bad attitude, you, you know, I'm capable to me gauter, and it's correct

to be gauds, but in the good, And I do it in the good things, I do it in the

things that I'm very, I'm doing, I'm in a good entourage when there's I'm doing what, I'm talking about

to them, and then, it's so, you know, it's so, you know, these alternatives to the

movey mechanism that I had, let's see, to compensate in certain things, like, I like,

I'm, I'm just, I'm trying to work, a guy who has a job, you've found the way,

you know, you can't, but, you know, I can't, that's so, I compensate for the money

I work at least I have some I have some I'm a lot of I'm a lot of I'm a lot of that's a lot of exactly

and I think I think it's to be to stay to stay all the time constant to never to ever and I think

the clue it's so to not to not sit on on his comfort to do the time want to do you

bravo man bravo to have to have to have having evolved to have to have been

to have to be able to take over your own your own question for you know, it's a little

about about what we're talking because I'm a little guy really curious he's a bit of a bit of a bit of

a bit of a bit of I'm sorry I'm like I'm curious I'm curious what's like what's

it's been sometimes I'm even I'm even I'm even I'm just maybe I'm maybe I'm

could make a little I'm too with a little bit but he's it's Part of it?

It's a construction. It's a construction. For real, I'm just curious. Okay.

I'm just curious. I'm a move of a cable. I'd would probably ask you is real, but I'm

curious, but I've seen the bit of the time to come in and I'm and I'm a TDA

my guy so, hey, it's it's a man, I'm retire, my God, to talk

to talk to talk to that's sure that it's that has been to pass to your time.

Oh, Chris, you don't notice the number of times, focus on the doad, and you're going to listen to your phone, we'll finish a little bit, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

to have been here, thank you, thank you, to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have, and to have, and if in two years, I want to talk to you, I want to sit here, I want to sit here, because hey, Chris, it's the guy that's got to receive your podcast, see, you know, no, no, no, don't, don't, you're worried, you, there's just, you're not sure of where's I'm going to and I'm going to

I'm going to focus on the positive as I'm going to do it's going going to go on the time yes,

thanks to thank you to hear of listening the podcast I hope that you're interesting

and inspiring and inspiring and inspiring on on the parloor Thank you. Thank you.