Au Parloir - Épisode #117 - Marie-Eve Turgeon

Episode Date: November 23, 2025

Dans cet épisode je reçois Marie-Eve Turgeon, mère très jeune, dès l’âge de 12 ans. Son 3e enfant est victime de trafic humain, elle mène aujourd’hui sa propre enquête pour faire éclater la vérité. Entre savoir et prouver, la différence est immense… et son histoire en est la preuve vivante. Une enquête toujours en cours, un témoignage bouleversant. Parce que c’est plus près de vous qu’on le pense. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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as others. At the age of 12 years, I've that I've had been anceinth. You were

anceint at age of 12 years? Yeah. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm reculing a little a little before that. Yeah. The primary, an

not a not a family in the problem I'd say there was not there was no no alcohol my father

was in the army tyreher of elite by the counter you're in the army you're in

the army you're you're doing to get to the reality normal and you're you're by the

tentative of murder your son my son my for my for my for attack my

mother. In other of that, I don't know out of that because you me say a family

tranquil, you know, you know, a family to be a family enlargy, family of tanan?

Yeah, family enlargy. The cousins, the mononcle and that, but not

my momer. But now, because that you say, there's a drug or alcohol, but atalcan, it's gross

what you do me say, tentative to murder. If it's it's a killer of elite,

clearly, he has not tanned with a arm at afe because it's Terror of Elit, you would have

not been a man violent, and PTSD, these things that? Today, he's schizophrenic, paranoid. Okay. Yeah, he has, uh,

he has been coroner. My father's a ranger. Okay. One of the first in Canada. So, he's been drugged, and he let's like that and he'd be sovied,

but when you're coming to the reality, he's made to cut a bra. When you're to arrive at the reality, you've made to cut a bra

alarmed? Yeah. Yeah. In mission, genre? Yeah, yeah. In the case,

they've got recuperated his bra and longed with the piece of metal and all. Okay,

so he's there's still there's a 40% you're at 40% you're and you're not you're

not the time that had just me. A coup there had had been my frere in the

decor, it's it's sote a coche because when you go far the war

when you're they're young man. Fah he would not have a

Fis he rappled to be a mind. So he he had attempted

to make fin to know to my and my friend for attack my

mother because my mother was more to be to be to be

to her okay okay okay okay like like like

like what we like so that's that's so we'll

number not no but I don't have enough of

a name of of parents who have done to do much to make a little bit of

their parents to do you know, I'm sorry, I'm not the I'm sorry. I'm that you're

not the also. Yeah, no, no, but I say, I have a little

relationship with my mother. He would would have been to be able to be the heart is made, I'd say,

in a six year, it's not normal that there's not normal that there's because

your parents try to try to try to try to try to try. But he

is to have you been but... No, it's a man, they're not they're not

to be able to they're not to be in the menotty. It's the police of the army. Even if you're

not in the army and you do that the police can't be the when you're when you're

not, I mean, they're not they're not there's a guy in a school who there's

there's a of a they're not, they're in the army, my chum, it's been they're saying,

they're they're called the the person, they demand, and then, oh, we can't we can't

call the police military. In fact, you know, in the fact, you, in the

he has he had menace my moire with a shooting, to her to do it

to be in his own way. But it's the whole way, you know, I'm, it's very

ironic what I say, but you know, that you're talking to me saying, you know, ah,

a little family tranquill, and then you're It's like, we're going to see, we're going to see, it's like, but there's nothing too, you know, it's not because, you know, I'm saying, we're saying, we're talking, we're talking, of drug, of consumption, of abuse, of all sorts, but, I'll say, it's a, in period, I mean, when he was in period, normal,

it's a good person, you know, a man that comes to, with all of his abyss, and he's sitting there with his wife, and he'll go, man, jane, and, like, in a picnic in the salon, you know, you see that all the time. In other of these crises, it's a good person when he had started to

mal-al-all-a. There, it's a other story. But the moment I had been totally being able to

come up with what he would be in what my father would be that I'm that I'm

not the same. I know my life is not common but I'm but I

don't know that's the same we're trying. We're not we're not the we're not the same

No, but no, but it's it's kind of, it's it's a impact the life, I mean, I mean,

it's a lot, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not that's that's

that's the thing is to be to be in where's the person who probably that I'd have been

that, I'd have been you know, I think you're could be there's a part of life so I'm

not, no, it's true, well, well, it's, it's, it's good

to, to, They're like those efforts, you know, I think Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'd say, I'd have not a good relation with my father, but I'd be able to be talking and say, I'd say, look, you've done so, so it,

and it's not been to pass. But you've decided that? No, I'd have other combat to be in my life. Yeah, that I've made it to go to-cote. But, you know, there are many people who have been on the chair, on the calcuture,

and, you know, they've done or they've have lived many of the things, they're going to make all the

matter of all this negative that has made to me the person that's I'm in the

person that. So, sometimes you have to pass across through the

things. Now, you learn at 12 that you're uncing. I'm

to ask the question, is that is issued of a relation consent

or non-consentant. Yes. Okay. Yeah, consentant you, it was a

minute I was a same guy. We've seen before I've got four years, we've grown and we've grown on the same

by course. By now, bennie of grossess. Oh, but there, wait a little,

because, you know, we're not the age of my female when you know that, and I mean, there are the little guy

that I know that I'm know that I don't know, my feet of two years, to have a relationship

sexual, that we're talking with a young of 12 What's, I mean, how you're conscious of this

at 12 years? That's the envy of that at 12 years. For me, it's not normal. I'm in a parenthesis, but it's just,

it's not natural at 12 years to have a desire like that, I think. No, but is it due to all what I've

seen with my father and these affairs, I don't know. For real, we've had a relation sexual, what he has

done in my 20-6- year and the debut secondar. I've had a dengue to grossess. So, you know, I see,

I see, I've seen, I've seen, the fact. And at this stage, in fact, 36 weeks

and five years, at this state, you have two choices. If you do you look,

or you do you know in adoption. There, I'd have to be to see to at St.

St. And my mother were to work, I'm had to you tell

the word on the on the way, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I'm going to get to see, it's it all right, it's not, it's not

a year, the baby pushed it on the long of my colon,

the the the part the the part of the point, which

means, which is that in group, I've said, I'm okay,

and it's not not, it's not that's time, I've been nine,

when I had to You know, so you know that it's all the months, and you've been, you know, you've been, you've been, you've been, I haven't been, I've ever, I've got to, I've got, I've got, in the first, the last month, I've had put my regular, and I've had a rendezvous, she's a gynecologist for having the pillule.

And then, the gynecologist, we're measuring, and I said, I think that's five months, we're going to send me to grossess, we're going to be in ecographies of urgence. It's like we've asked. And when you say, denies of grossess, it's, the car not you, not you know, not you know, because you're not conscious, in the phone, you know, so so, so you know, so you're, because

if you imagine, Chris, a car, a girl of a girl, a young lady of 12-year-old, it's not made. For sure, for a little. No. You'll say, you're too pretty, today, at age that you're, I'm even not imagine, at 12-year-old. Nineteen 14, leave.

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second. And the decision that's you've said, you've two choice, so you

do you do it in adoption? I mean in a gross family. My grandpa has had been a lot of my grandmour

has been 14 my grandmother has said, I do, I do, I do, I'm at the same. If you return to the

school, I can be an occupy, but it's not me that I'm the left. I have made the decision

to not to get my time at my 18 and to get it. So, at 12

a week in a month my 13 I'm accrued of a baby of eight livres and a

car not made for that yeah I imagine yeah naturally naturally

you're to have naturally yeah that's an experience so that it had been

excuse the term but you're a business you're not that it's not that

it's not it's not that yeah it's it's a it's a it's a

it's a poor See, Paul. Yeah. I mean, you're doing still on at 12 years? Oh, I'm,

I'd play with all the life that we had had been before that, I'd guard my cousins, my

cousins. I don't know, I had the instinct developed. And it's the day where is

my my son, where is my life, I'm going to be the life, I'm going to

be able to have been family? Yeah. And it's what I did? And it's what I

me, she's not my mother the Wednesday or the Saturday, I didn't not dance. And my son my son,

I made everywhere, and I'm, like, so he might be perhaps to make sure to make

some of the other person that I've known. So, you know, it's made on a line

right of the way. Hey, it's just because, when you talk to that,

I see, I've just, I see just my feet. Mm-hmm. It's, all the

my proper present-in-of-and, and it's it's a lot of an young girl of 12, 13-year, who's going to make face to that?

And you're well, to say, at this time, you live well, you assume, you're he's not, I've not been

judged, and I'm not been in problem, I'm even finished, and I'm in second-air-on

when I had cussed. I've finished my credit, oh, the man. Is that continued the

second-air to complete? I, I've even a few different different. In being a young

Well, bravo And today I'm four Children, I'm four Infant? Yes Or diploma You know, I'm not sure An infant

Okay Yeah, I'm I'm four Four times Yeah, we know, We know, What, you know, So, I'm like,

How old How's how old Of course, I'm going to have 42 You're more You're more You're more,

And your grandmom, And your grandmom, four Yeah, but Yeah, but I agree, at 12 years, yeah, no, I understand. Well, yeah, it's like, you're going to be the more young at, like, 19. Well, my God.

My God, I said, I'm sorry, I don't know why I said to the same. He has 28. There's 28. When he announced, you know, we're on since I, I don't know, but the feeling, I know, it's a lot of 11th. I'm just content. Okay, so, lucy, he's a young. Yeah, but 17, pretty 18.

as I'm at me, 23, I think I'd consider it's a young to have a little bit of 17, 18, it's also young, but if we're just compared to, you're doing, you know,

you're just content. I was just content and he passed the cap of the 13th. Wow. And the, the father, the young man of

12, 13, he had always he had always he, he had always he, he knew, he knew, he knew,

he knew, he'd know, he'd know, he'd never, but, yeah, they'd have to he had always

he's always been there, always it's present. Are you staying together? Yes, by the

following, I'd say, I'm like, I'm like pretty of the maturity and not he, so it's

not a point that. So, so you, you've had been, there's, no,

not a one, a week, he'd come in a time and time. During

a bit, he was, he was pre, a, one, he had, he had had access

all the time when he wanted, I'd never I'm going to be able and we're

staying a minute. The history that you want to you want to be able to you're not

okay. So, so do you have the first of the first, you've had your

your life, you've done my secondair and finish my secondar I'm going to be

in the front, I've been in the course of a course of cooffure a course

of course of cosmetology a course in dermo cosmetic I'm the school. For the

time, that I'm sure that I'm continuing the students even if I had some of the

second. The second he arrived at how age? The second and three year, I see,

I've seen, I've seen, the jimels, at 17 at 17 I'm I'm at

I'm supposed to have at 18, I'm at 17 on prematurely at 29 seven.

Is that's wanted, desired, or it's an accident? No, it's an accident.

I'd had been the pillo. And then that's not to be to be in five,

the papa had 19 and, we're we're all we're just two years because

when we had seen, he was he didn't he was sure he'd he would be not

he'd finally we've passed on an echo he had he had two, so he said,

we'll assume, and we'll go to and we'll be able to get it. Respect, I know this guy that, you're not obliged to be able to know me. Respect for a... No, but it's not all the young men

of 19 years who are ready to say, yes, I'm saying, and let's do we we're doing our responsibility. Yeah, and again today, my

daughter, I'm, well, I'm actually, three weeks later, I've been one of my three of my three years.

Desolary. I'll say, after 23, no, but it's a even an epitreve, it's an child that you

make to the world and that's in the same in a cause of a cause of a cause of a cause of a

cause of a and it's not to be able to be able to this story that. I've decided that I'm

going to be there to be to live all that. And today the pair is still there's a

person who is something is something that's because you have brought a point of that and

in fact it's the hospital who we have contacted to say there there,

of people who have plenty of parents, because there's a lot of the disease due to this bacteria

because it's to be in the conducts in the airation. And I'm just made, there's plenty of other

parents, but it's not the money that's not so I'm not back in and I'm always, you know,

my wife, to me, to be a at 17 18? 18? Almost 18,

yeah, so it's so it's not to be to be relanced there to be But, listen,

I'd lose a child at 17 a 17 year, a child of three seven years, it's an

other mega reprove? Yeah. But you can't to let's go to let's because

you're an other. In fact, you have two other. And, like my female

identical, if I had been not the decision to have defranches to their same,

the other degraded all the other degraded So I've made pass all the tests

possible but there's so on his cell so that's so

we're in it's so that it's a decision to get to be even

not, at 17 you're supposed to to do you to find a bat

and be a beer not not You know, all my respect, it's a fool, because, you know, these stories like that

of the mother young, I've seen, I've seen, I'm even very, very close to me, in my family

very, very proche, listen, I've got totally, all my respect for this chelminement

that, because I know a lot, it's not not very that's not very much with their

children who, you know, so, so, so, yeah, but it's, it's, it's,

And it's... You don't have the time you don't have the time you let's not your deil? No, you can't. You can't because you have

one of five years who you have one little bit of three three weeks if you do you do if you do

have to have to join to her that's so so. So, he'd be able to

pass all the tests. And when they said, well, it's going to it's going to it's going to

I'm even not sure of how many times I could, I could, you know, not let's have to have to have been

because she had not a quality of life, and my father would be like, why you

let my son, the same? No. I could not. It's probably of the decision the

more than to have done to your life at 17 years? Yeah. Oh, yeah,

at the I didn't even not he didn't even and say, no, I'd be not,

you'd be talking, don't, I'd be talking, I'd be talking, I don't want to I don't know to person

I want to be person and a moment I'm going to get like like that's we're going to because I'm

too long who's like it's all right it's all right it's all the time that she she's like

she's but it's five years that I'm not dormy five years that I'm five years

that I'm that's five that I left my family post-acuchement you know yeah and I mean

I don't have been a belle Accusement. I've really been it's a mal

it's been it's not it's not it's not it's not well it I'm not I'm

there's I'm able to get to be able to work I'm ches gruland so

he was out of question my faith live what I live in what yeah

the thirdium the thirdium the the that's it's

it's it's But in the case, I don't say that, but it's... Yeah, yeah, it's the

history of my that I, that I'm that I'm that I'm with an American.

Okay. Because they're having had been young, you know, I'm not totally the

same pair, unfortunately. And, I've had with an American who he he'd

for for Rockefeller. Okay. Greasy, in fact, then. Um,

They were losing to reposey. And at a moment a day, I just went to be a frequent and all the all the same, but I'm going to see, but I'm

going to be because, after all the accoucheement and all the time, you did it be supposed to be able

to be able to be? Exactly. Finally, he is arrived. I'm still quite a

and I said, I'm saying, he's not there for a lot, that's a miracle that this man, and I'll get

in sorts. At what age at this moment that? 23 I'm okay I'm gladed it's a little

difficult with the father I mean he's not Canadian he's in the United and he descends when he doesn't when he's

done finally the last time my son his father he had his father he had been four years he'd give him

a cardo and he's he's never crossed So I've played the I've played the

father and the father and in the time as I'm with my mother um

no problem it's an an infant super very subdued so it's enmerced

in the school it's long but but there's not a problem

it's just that he's enrude they're inrude if you're always the same

same his friends, the blacks consider not like a black, the black

they're not not like it's made a little gang of these, one who's one who

had been one who was a half African and he he has kept the same

to this day. Okay. Yeah. There had had been a man with which

he was all the time I had to you know, we're we've seen because

our children were young. He always often pass the Halloween because it's it's like

with his friends, you know, with his friends with his friends, correct. And then, like,

get you on the second hour, with the pandemic, they were a little away,

but he spoke, like, by Instagram, Facebook. My name, the father

had to an house and asked to go to my son, and I'm the father of this

guy's to work for the DPG. Now, my office, he started to go, and then, I'm just, he's different, and he consumes

a pot. I'm not, I'm not quite, I've got to once, and I've had to remorse at the hospital overdose.

Well, yeah, he'll give an idea, so I, so I, but he he comes to

to fombe to pot, and he starts to , he comes to be a to buy, but I'm

just like, I'm, it's not normal. There's something that something that's something

So, so, what's what's what's what? He said, Mama,

he'd say, we say, we're on defriche the and the terrain

and all, and all, he comes to to go to the sites bors, he'd

encounter a young girl. But, she, but she, she's, but he

said, oh, he said, she, she, she, she, she,

she, that we're we're going to get a ado at this moment there, he's

at all age after? Uh, 0.15 debut 16. 15, 15,

15, 15, perfect. Yeah. So, like, okay, but I think, but I'm,

like, there's, there's a , you know, my friends, and then, but now,

the sole young who frequent, it's this famous little guy that, who will

who will be always. And then, he me I'm saying, I'm start with. Okay,

But mom, she'd like her She'd come in her own. She'd be in the house. And I don't not attention to the parents, he depots his wife

and he's gone. You know, she's not, she's not, we've never seen, we've never talked, and you drop

your for the end of the same to the same. Without, she's who I'm not. The young

girl, you know, I think, I've been sexualized for his age, the little

at 14-year, I said to my he said, no, no, he's a super a good she, you know, she's a very she's a

she'll be at a moment of a she, I, I, I, I want to go, before the

return, like, the return, like, this weekend that's quite yeah, she's not, she, she, she, she,

she, I, you know, I, she has, I, at the end, the little, she'll have been to have been to

me, and she's at table, you know, she, I don't know, the only thing, it's that I think she'll consume a lot, and she,

she, he's very asexualty, you know, and there's a young, I regard the other and I'm saying, you know, it's not normal.

It's not normal that 14 years, you're asexual like that. And, me, I'm not, yeah,

but it's a other generation today, it's very different. I think, I think, dear. Yeah,

the Papa that I see, he's trying to see, I'm doing the people who I'm doing,

and I'm like, I'm sorry, and I know that's that's all right. Yeah, in the

case. And I'm just going, I'm going, my son, okay, before the school,

we're to come back, because he had to come to the question, that his part of question,

that's not, and that's we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, that's,

It's a week to someone that you know what you know. No, out of question. That I understand and I respect. I'm talking the monsieur

who has learned of a ryan. It's a normal, that's what do you mean? Oh, no, he has like

a malade, it's a man who's like a man he's a he's two, okay. But,

you know, correct. In a certain age, he's, he's probably of his person, but he's

there's like of a thing, I'd dutrard of anything. Okay, it's correct, but I'd say, A dole, it's a much.

I'll go to you envoyed the money. For the week, it's it's a coming to.

I'm going to get a 150. The next time I'll see a message. If I

don't want $100, my my son my son dollar. Two days later,

but there, we're in the restaurant, and if you don't know if you're not the money,

I can't get to get to get to $1,000 like that. The option to return to

search at this moment I'm not okay okay you're going to because it's you're going to

it's not he's going to okay when he's okay but you want to be a meet

okay yeah yeah so I'm I'm not the address exact of the

back okay and then there there's there's there's just like

I'm like I'm I'm talking directly my feet I'm it's it rackroche

I call it's it's it's it's it's it's still perfect.

I'm obliged to to find the address, to me to get there, for who he's not

his voice. It's not his voice to do it's like gillet, not there. It's not

my son I don't know. Oh, Mama, he he'd he'd

be there to him to the third person. So I said like it's impossible.

What's what's what's what's? I decided to go find out of Facebook, Instagram, and these things are there, and I see that the papa of the famous little girl, who had been with this tomb there. I call she Belle.

I've made sure the releverte telephonic to me make out that the cellular of my son is transferred on the number of the pair that I knew of his. So we're an friend of his. Yeah. Okay. That every time I try to try to be rejoin, the telephone is transferred

on his telephone to but that I menace so he retransfer the line to my for that I'm

to transfer by the to him to be. So the two were to mesh I've Ike

the telephone cellular of my son because there were one that had not no link

on the but he used to play to play to play to play

Ike the iPhone I've acquired the computer to have access to those address IP and

to localization exact of these androles. For me to make count that they they've been

to be a world. I'm communicate with the police because my son I'm saying

there's a minute there's a police came to get you but there,

but your guy he's not part to his passport on my my guy

he part with all his papers his paper of nessence,

and all to make a passport. Why? Because the man in question has attempted to have the

guard. Because there, what is he doesn't, he's going to my wife, he's not a good

mother, a mother is racist, oh, your mother, he doesn't all of things. He's the

drug, in plus. And don't want that he doesn't, because my,

and my office, we'll just do do. Wait, your guy, he part for a week, with all the papers.

But I'm not in fact. No, no, I see, but there, you'd be not doing a passport in 24 hour?

How, they can, how they can, I'm not, I'm just pose, because there, I'm just

put in the question, if you're with your paper, you're trying, they're they're not

a passport, I think, the most maybe three, four, four, four, four,

four, four, four, eight, Yeah. So it's what they've made. They've made to make a passport to your son.

But you can't not start a miner of the country without the signatures of parents? It's on your end up... There's a lot...

There's a lot of people that it's that it's quite difficult for to come to that.

By, some, it's been also, whatever. Oh, no, I applied at my

passport Canada. We said that it said it didn't because my son was my son had

six at from 14 so you are responsible of your child to the age of 18

even 21 in a certain case but at the 14 you can you can't you can't because he

is legally in age to decide so I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm sure I'm come in the house he's he's not new

so when at when I know I can't and I discover the address of Mr.

I've seen I'm going to if we can't call it some the same. I don't know how and desperer

in my affair that I did do this I could. I know that I had a facility with the computer

and all the time. By the then I'm the police the DPG I said I've got

to get to my child, I know that I know that's something something that's not

normal that's not not that's not that's not not he talk. We've

made as a exas a woman that's a lot of a fugue. Okay.

You find that normal that the telephone not that not on the

telephone? Ah, well, maybe he had preated the telephone.

Well, okay. It has been so. There, I'm to go

to get to and that's not a If it's if I want to in communication with my father,

I'm going to then we're in. So, like, the monsieur me bring to my son,

the father of the young female, okay? Um, with all that, there, there's,

there's, there's, there's, there's, three months, three months. So, he's parted a

time, it's, it's, it's, to go ahead, and then, and then, and then,

and then, and they're, they're, they're like, it's a, it's not, okay, The day that is

Revenue, he Revenu, the 10 September 2003. He rewain, and he announced. The school is

recommenced, I was there. I mean, I've had called the school, I'm sure, my son,

it's not normal, you can you have you do you're not at the school, normally,

you'd have been there's a seven, madam, he had used six years, so it's not necessary.

At the time, since, after the seven, you're put to be to be able to at the school. Exactly.

He came me an anonce that the father of his family has made the demand

of his legal and that he demanage there with his wife with his

home, and I'm and I'm my wife and I'm my my there,

I mean say that I'm the eyes brown, but I see that it's not

he's a zombie and she she had they're she texted all long

and I listen me okay she's she she's she

I said, I don't know what it's going to happen. It's a lot. It's a couple of course after. I had permitted a 1st month. I've given $1,300 to his father for who he to nouris. And then, then, you're in a skeleton. I said, it's hard of question that you sort of here. There, I said, no respect. And I know, I know.

And I said that's out of all alone. I'm treated to putte, and I demanded to sort of to stay at home. all my my children have been to say, they were and they were

to see, and they're going to be she's out of she texted. It's sure that text with her

the room of my house is in the front. I have I'm my nivele

and I say, I'm not capable, I'm not able to have to be able to get a

super stressed, I'm going to come to the pizza and even when it

even when it can't get to My more young opened the door of my son, my son's

my son by the phoneette at manivele with a sack of a PlayStation

5 the two cellular he had with again there plenty of other

papers that normally would not it would not been in his in his thought

to partire with that the papers legal so so I

call the police, and I said, my son, it's made, I completely, I, I, I, I said not if he was

fugue, but in the state that it was, and I put it to put it to get, and you know, I have been a first, so,

you know, you're going to get to get to a pack, and a PS5 in, I'm not sure that

he'll have lost in the end. And, at the final, I'm said, yes, we,

we've seen a man lady, I'm called the police, the police can't

he's a six years, he fugues. It's a okay, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to he's going to

he's trying to he's trying to you know, you're going to say that's a fugue? That the Mr.

he's parted and he came to he's two hours after? No, the monsieur

he was not, the monsieur had planned his affairs. Just as at present at the law for the moment,

in all the moment, in a lot of the thing you're in because he's 16 years if he wants if he wants if he wants, he has like

the droat in a time that's so so, so he's not, yeah, in the phone. At that,

the monsieur had anything had anything not yet, just as we know, in what you know,

in what you're not, he has been illegal. No. Lush, fuck top, not,

not illegal. Exactly. Okay. There, I've tried to communicate with this man because I have I've got to

do you have to do you have to make sure he can't he recroach he rackroche oh perfect I'm going to

me run on the place I call an amy we're on on the place and there the telephone

is on my conjoin so we we can't we can't one of one of

the two that's let's the other if you want to be there you know

it's your choice? Okay, but I think that's bizarre. Recuperer the telephone, but in recuperating the telephone, the man

reinitialize the iPhone and guard the purse of my cellular. And, I see all that.

The police is at the exterior because I have called to them to say that I'm

on all to say. Justke that, it's not illegal. But there, there's the plus on

the name of my marie, who has not the right to have. We, we have a

man, my son had used a little demelie with a young um,

my son my son and he's to make the change of address to make his address

at home in question. My abocca me call, and she me say, Iieve,

it's not normal. He's he's presented here with a man saying that it was his

beau-peer. But my son in his conscious, had seamed some of the

doubts a bit. What he had said to the I've got to come with my

beau-peer, I would give my new address. But, my

my lawyer, he has met, my conjoin, who is the

beau-peer because we're married? He he's called and he said,

for your married, that I had tried to to take the identity of my marie

to reach to have the guard of my son. He had already made all the different of

the government for the allocations familial and all these affairs. Well, there,

there, he's something of lush. By the the suite, all, it's a bit like,

brussoye in all in all that, um, I didn't I didn't what to do I have been to

call the ADPJ, he's a problem he puts a drug, he can't do what to do what to do you know, I'm going to

to pay the Justice of Longuey to try to try to get to do you. Your Fis? Yeah.

For having an evaluation and that he sort of to do that. It's a judge who has peased on

a piton and she said I'm not the right to you say that but you're not his certificate

Knaissance, and to go ahead and get your infant. It's your infant. Okay.

So, I'm not the certificate of a license. And he he's parted with.

You're obliged to find a new, the certificate of license, to know,

for the time. During this time that, my office vied there's not

capable to communicate with, then, the telephone, and see and that, but I

I've reached to know that with all the research who he did things on

internet, the video pornographic juvenile which I find my wife and his

girlfriend on because I hacked the telephone but I have the iPhone in plus

in my mind it's more more easy to have access so so I

found these videos I found these videos where he they

vanded my for these civil sexual everywhere in the world.

It's not easy. It's not easy. You're have you have been

my son my father and I'm But he's not because, he's not even if you're not. And

it's me who's ready with these images. There's nothing that can't happen even if I

have no proof. There are no arrestation. They're still still

they're menace to to get to to the H they're

they're menaced to me also, because we had made some of the plaintiff.

And more the time pass, more than I can't. But just that's these menace,

you can you putt to murder? I've got to point. Okay. There's nothing that

there's nothing that they've made a song on me that they have been on

because they, they have they have connections a bit all there.

And we have made a song on me and we can't the name of my son,

and we can't clearly that they will be and me and to be

if he not, I'm I'm got, I'm and I'm always

there's no video but your father six years so

so, so you know, you can you can be you can you can't you can't

be able to because they're not to find the proof that's they're they're

that that's not your My son, he's filmed him? No, in fact, it's

that my son, he would have no, if he would say clearly, yeah,

this person there, yes, this person there, we've, um, we've

made that, there he could have some, but because he's amnesic traumatic, there's not.

They're other, they drugged with whatever what, they've they've made chasse the

dragon, I don't know if you, see what? I mean, it's, yeah, well, it's, oh, yeah, well, it's, I'm fined of the heroin at the pipe, yeah, yeah, and they're in fact, so, on 14 drugs, my son, it was, it was, he had 12 active. It's, it's just, to say, at all right, and, you know,

this man, he's a lot of nothing, but, you know, a frereer in the army, and there's a frereer at the DPG. Because the famous pair of the other, is his friend, No, okay, I'm assuming the father of his family, okay. So, in working together,

so in the two recruits in the same of the youngess. The father of the young man,

in fact, he, he made of his two job, because I have called, there,

I said, and in the form, when I, when I communicate with the ADPJ for

to sort of my son to I, the man that was in the top of the

DPG of the Montereyrii. But, me, I, I don't the information

and I I'm not not quite that I'm trying to get to get to his boss so he

has paid his job after that he has he set to work I'm I've got

to put my son when I got to get to my son of

because he had been because he had been to be able to

to be to to what he came to live that

um imagine too that He had been ported his CV in this center of

youngness and that and he was engaged but he's not a souvenir a night

I'm going to he's he said mom, I've seen the father of at the

center he's there I'm sorry I'm called at the center I've

given all the information he's he's they're he's really he he's been

he's he's he don't he so he had a control total

on my guy he was surveilled in all time. So, you know, it's enormous, and I've reached

to be there in the front because he's he's batted with a young man when he was there, the police

me called. And I could go to go to search a cognizance and all. The police made to me

to say he's bated to a young man, we've made in in for 24 hours, we have not

the right to plus. Normally, when he are at an infant of a child, it's

a parent for the liberate. I'm arrived at the post of the police of the

suspension and they had liberate my son with the signature of the

other one. I think they're not not the they're not to do do that.

And then like the judge me said he was he was so I'm sent

on place with on We're entoured the block. It's not complicated. We're entoured the block where is the man abit.

And I'm saying, I'm going to get to my face. There, you're trying your

and then I think. I think that long. When he he's out, he felt a

odor oak it, it had not took two minutes, I'm able to be able

to talk, and can't be able to talk, and he had druged. He's not that he

He'll have to be in the hospital. I'll let him know what's what and what's what's going to and what's

to find out of meg there were there's always there's even that's a car but he's

never been been operated but there's a sycatrice. And then then the infarmear she said he's not

to be able to be able to say he's he's in a right to refuse you see you see

he's not apt to to take the decision himself. She said, yeah, but it's her choice. My guy,

repran a little on a little and he said, no, I'm not, I'm not they're not

exomned. And they let's go to. So, so I'm had to be to be the police.

For you to have to be the car, not that he pete a coche. The

police me said, have you have you have you regard under his arteries,

have you have you looked under their if there if there didn't

never never my brother, he's in all these stas. I've been to the blonde,

I'm the per man to make of the world. I'm not put put surveilled. All the

what I saw, there was there's a trace of sand at the over the

head, he had tached like his and the landmine he's on the

end of a center and he had reprie the time that the intermen

come to he had had been like a moment of conscience and he said,

out me to the DPG is mely there's a man and you know we had a policy who had confirmed that my son

and after that he had sooted then you my blonde no no no I'm trying to get my my son

but monsieur had the right to have the contact but not me because my son wanted to have a company

but not with me because he was fashed so it had dured a two three weeks I'm

back you continue to go to send to see to see your guy Yeah, he'd He'd call it

Every year Yeah Even that In the phone He used his If you're really His daughter That's a new

He used this young Famer to To get a Yeah That's a young A man of 16-year Who is Amoreue

Yeah And for To discover That the young She's also Drugged And that She's obliged

To have What's She's not To be So at 14 her, she had a gross active sexual.

Because my son had more than the beginning in the beginning, he'd talk about, he'd

be able to, we've been there's a little bit of all this, even that we have remit to the police,

there, and then a whole, and then, and then, I've continued my research

Carmen, you know, even if he would not be to call, and I just,

and I'm We had some of the newvel. I mean, I'm so much implicated. And then, I said, I don't know, Fugeuse, they've

made a documenter on Fugus. Now, he talked to Léolist. Léolist, it's on the site internet where is

often these people, they're going to poste these minors with their service sexual.

I'm said, he's so he's sure that's made, I'm saying, I call the police,

saying, I'm not a pedophil, I want to have some of the proof. I'm going

on the list. Three-time first page. Service sexual in a dungeon and it's

the photo of my son, that I think. He, he's with the

name of a person that's in the middle, who vending the services

of my son. Okay. that I've found. I've communicated with the police,

but my son has not to remember. There's always no arrestation. So, so it's two years

I've been for that, because, you know, in the fun, he's been a victim, but he's infirmed at, souvenir of... He's

he's he's he's like there's more that's more that's efface there's

he's all the room all these chries the cochemore you don't do it's

all the chattriss and they they're they're they're they're they've been

they've they're they're playing with a gun and the and the cicatrice

uh... the he all right to have been operated a car over it

he was decrived a sign or where is where it would be

reanimed and it would be the case of all what he decried

I'm to ask to make to make the test there, we said if

there's maybe a pacemaker it's perhaps not a electro-cardiogram

you know, when they have when they have put his batment

of car when when they they had desjoled? His

heart batted at 48, which is not a normal. By the it's

low, yeah. By the the suite, it's 52, 55. 55, it's correct,

it's it's possible. But there person who want to me help it's like if all

the world it's made counter us. The medicine don't

they pass this test. I'm the police, It's just a bit of what I do. We'd say, I'd say, I'd like, I'd like I continue.

But, now, I'm trying to where, is my boss is a chiropratiatee. He, he has several clinics. And, he treats my face in this moment because there's

some time, because he's to entertainer a relation with my son, he said, long-amoshed. His door, his colonn, all. He is in

trying to help the mancheworth and he basically if there's something we could

have to pass the radiographies with him for to know if there if you're

to know whatever that at least there I have a solution and I have the

proof written of a medicine because before that there there

there had not that he would me there I'm maybe

even to if it It arrives, it's like, hey, there's something, he's clearly, he is operas. There's, but again, there's no proof of operation, but it's their other who

have done, you know, to try the cast-tele, of the announcement, Leo Liss, it's he who who's posted with, you know, if your guy, can't corroborate no more, corroborate no more. In-acare, the telephone,

the PlayStation, and all these affairs, I get all, I get all the localization, exact, with the address. Exactly, where is he's And, you know, my bus is not It's just that, you

I'm talking to I'm at a level legal, to make, because, you know, there's a big difference between what we see and what

can prove, there's the problem, you know, to, you know, a old story we know in in Quebec, of Cedrica

Provenche, the police had always knew, it's that's who, but they have always there's always

there's always there, you know, I mean, my son has been this, we're sure,

probably this, so, but you're not the proof that this person that is directly implicated

to say, in fact I have one on the phone because the telephone was always transferry on the

he's assured the police the police the city Yeah, but it's not because you transfer a

line on that you did all right because I in the fact, I've done,

I've made, I've done the telephone to the police with all the police with all the

so that if I'm I've been able to have all the localizations they're more more

then. No, I understand, but you comprehend that a localization does not a preve of no, you know, you know, it's that, you're saying,

effectively, that's it's so, effectively, effectively, it was like, and this person that seemed, he's been there with him.

But, you know, but you know, you know, you know, it's not, it's not illegal to be promen with a young

at around the world, or Well, it's, but you're not there not, the car of the parent,

when you're when you're not sure that's not sure it's not sure, it's not sure, My son, it's promenant in container. My son has a fear of these

avioms and helicopters. We have never pried the avion of the helicopter. He could me decry each endroar. At the beginning, he said he said

he'd make his fingers. And if he'd be the telephone, he'd voyed on a map and he'd say, I'm going there. I'm going there.

He would all to be all. Like, it's not denigued. You're a reason and to do it and to do and to bat,

100%. It's just that, you know, what he makes chie, literally, of that, is, just, it's that, you know, it's like you know, they're like, they're, like, they're, like, they're, like, there's, there, there's, there, you know, there's, at least,

it's, you know, it's, you're going to, in a young man of, without authorization of his mother. Exactly. I mean, I, I don't know if there's 16, I don't, you know, there's not, there's not, you know, there's nothing that can be made, you know, and I would say, you know,

But as I'm also, if they're vended your son for these services sexual, the problem also is the client, you know, as I'm also, you know,

if there's people that's because there's people who are ready to pay for that. Yeah, so I'm not punitive than the person

who, who, who, that's he has done and we know, we know, we know the don't we're in

the dungeon, we're at Quebec and all, we've got to a Quebec, we've brought Plaint. And then it's what the police

They said They said They're talking Their stories And their stories And their They have to It's like

If it had not a sense Or that That all that It comes Yeah That's in his That's true

But it's what The PIM Fawn With the Young Fee It's my CUM He'll be

To tell you You're the Amour of my I mean I'm 25 Other also That you It's like

It's like It's like who pimped the girls because you're in amos. But, you know,

it's the first the first that I'm the first of, you know, a young man, it's literally

to, what we can't because we have not the proof of anything, it's like, you know,

but the kind of, the don'tjo and of Civis like that, you know, it's really

it's really that, it's really a pair that uses a fee for, to have

to have, to have, of young, adolescents, for that. I know there

It's sure that there are If there's a If there's There's a lot of Yeah, it's not The first It's not the first Yeah,

there's a There's a young man who has disappeared that we're never found that who had

had been with that if they're if they're if they're never to get to it's probably

that's something so so that it's a person who has been a one of

a young because he doesn't he'll be he's not he's at the where at

six years the parent can't be able he's sure that he was to search that. And, you know, I said,

I said, it's going to say, like, hey, yeah, me, too, I've seen, maybe, I mean, some, maybe, because, unfortunately, we can't, we can't, we can't, we know these people, because there's

not, the, plain that had been puttie. Yes, but I'm not, there's not, there's not, there's not, there's not, there's what I, sorry, I, I'm not used to the good term.

So, there's not an accusation, so we can't noming these persons, If you're part-ante, you'll let's an address couriel

that we'll make in the description YouTube. So if there's there's a parent who seem to

have been the same genre of story, to be there by couriel, you could change the

name with these persons because it's not to be not over a story and

maybe because sometimes it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's,

you know, I'm doing, the story at the Gilbert Roson, is what's what's going to, you know,

it's just a person who leaves the flag at a minute there's there's a minute,

and there are the little pervert, of the coalists, so, so, so, so,

so, it's, that's, it's probably not the first, and probably not the

probably not the last, probably not, how, you do it a bit, your son, your son,

it's got to a 18 years, it's, you know, you did, he's oblied that, he'll oblique,

probably because he They want to forget. The core, the brain is good for to have, you know, I'm playing

to have done, I know, I know, I know that I've seen, but I can't have a pen, I'm in the

little flash that, I'm going to be because they're chapped. But you say that you don't know

that's not, even if he's not, even if he's not, his heart, his brain, you can,

of what you have been, because if you say that's not because you can't be not being

that's not because it has been it's a hypocrite some, Yeah, yeah, he has made a confidence

one time in his life, there's a other that's a life, and he has arrived that.

So, you know, he has confidence, he accords more of confidence. But, on the

everyday? But he will, for the there, there's an advancement. He's

he reached to go to work, he'd come to the but, but the sorties,

we'll forget that if it's not in family, he's he's and you

to be, and do that, is that, is he did you do you have to be like,

right, just, pelt it on a rear, pass to other other things, I don't to hear

to hear of or he, he wants to know what he's going to he's going to know,

because, you know, they've been renombed, he's on a new name, and there's then it's

ran to and they're they're they've done a new name, they're done a new name.

Okay, they're they're they're like, and, and, like,

on, on, we've received a message text with this name, like, good

an tell on my cellular to my so they know, they know, they say,

they're trying, he's trying to push to to he far, he's more he has fear,

plus he's detaches of this event that. But the day that I'm going to

be ready, I'm going to you know there's a new therapy is by the

movement of the eyes because it re-plonged not directly like if you don't know if you do you know

we, we're we're a clinic at the house and we know it's for the moment he's

not ready and it's correct. You're not have not to live that no and I

I'll obliger never, never, but you know I mean what I think I'm what I'm

think it's that's he's the victim and it's he's he's imprisoned

and the mire oh I'm I'm not I've been three months. I'm

one hour by night. There's not a new night that I'm not dream that he's not

the same the same the same. Yeah. Well, as I'm the minute that I

made my first my first I'm not for the and I go to and I'm

going to and I'm going to I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to

be I'm going to be the bit I'm all the but I'm all the

information also. With all The information that With all the police If you're If you're If you're

If you're Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm Offiched on my Feneckxed

Like, it's Surrier, you You're filmed You're not Not too far It'll sound It's All the world

We know, We know, we're We're not We're never So, So, in this moment Is there An enquite,

It's on the Ones, It's on the For the moment they continue if they're they're going to they're trying to

because they want to continue the research so it's a document it's not a question, but if there's

with more information so there's so there's there's people who who think that one of

their young has lived or have something similar to that it's not necessarily to talk about

to the assumption but you clearly it's it's everywhere it's it's

really it gruge long So, so you'll be the person, perhaps, to get to get in contact, to be really,

you know, you have the names, you know, have the cities, you have the address, so you can't. I have the placements,

I get all. Just to the number of permit to to conduct. I'm going in my research. But it's

perfect. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's, you know, it's often, you know, it's a lot because there's

a little but I've received Michelle Dumont here who had been falsely accused to violence and it's his wife who has made

the work of eight avocas for to mount the dossier for finally to make

liberate and I'm I'm not always tend to with the policeier on podcast

I don't I don't against the policeier no more there are there are many

like I'm there's there's too time there there's there there's

but they're can't they're And then there are there are these limits. The police have decided to become policies

and to have done to do that in the legality. So, unfortunately, they're often their men lily, like I said,

the little Cedricah, they've always knew, but they're macket of proof for accuser formally to the person.

So, so they're probably that's empathic, but they have the mailied because they

have not enough enough of information, they have not of proof direct for to go

to the That's what that's what that's the I'm explained. We have the men

we're not to get to because he's used to get to the assumption it's a function

by the but the assumption are maybe not all they're under they're

there are there are there are there are there's where is you're doing they're

because the job was not made a job he has made a different from

they're they've lost the declaration It's kind of bizarre. And my

My son said... You're talking The police? The police? The police? Okay. Of course. Because he

had wanted to put a plan for the Cvists, and the fact that he'd not were, and they they were treated

like a chien, you know, they're in a bottle at their time? Yeah. And they they've got

in they've got to they're not willing to make the three times I'm made, the three times,

and my son, and my son, he, he, I'm not capable. If it's the face, I don't I've ever

I've seen a couple of a police yeah, and when we are in the when we're in to take

because we're to be placed to do you in town, like it's to be able to to get to to get to

I'm saying that you're sure that you have you have putte plaintiff? We're had been

to call the intervenate of my office to center and she has assured yes,

yes, I was present when he had parted when they were and garry the plaint. So, there are like

plenty of things that are quite even strange. He arrives to part the plaintiff, even if the

memories, flew, they were more of the beginning, in the time that you're in the process

where is you're still under the effect of the drug, we, don't, you have more

more, so he, all of his souvenirs have, so he, all, if you had

a moment of crosser or that he has passed to, you know, you're in

the blonde, you know, it's, you know, it's not, no, it's the other,

the mechant, you know, the switch it's made because because I understand, the young,

who is, who's, he's, who's, he's just, for him, to he's to be an

to be in his blonde, because he's not of the cause of the drug,

of all what he inject or who he don't. We had a front, with the

interbenants and the DPJ, in the I mean, you know, what my father and these things are, I wanted to talk to my parents

for the moment. You know, it's not the age or the moment appropriate. No, I understand. We sat sit, and he said, you know, you know what? Is it on the bar to mourn't? Your son? Yeah. Okay.

I said, we're going to make sure we're going to make sure. And I said, Mama, you've got to talk to something. And I've got debiled at all the complete. All the time, my my father

has tried to arreter our life for bless my mother. Or, all the

times that he has wanted to my mother. And then he's toover. And then

he made and it was there that he made the that's maybe not some of

some of final. There's I've had been to be to get to make

to understand that I had to come there for

the to be judged, and that I was not there for, what that was going to help us, and it's like it's the way to it's like he

cut the pawn with that jeanfeil. So, you know, at least, today, two years after, he is at home, he is in life.

He's not But he go to more and more. You'd say, he will work, you know, he's, you know,

he's, he's, he's rebate, you're quietly No, no, but is that a day he will want a a coppine

in his life? Is he is here today to talk about that? I have talked. Yeah. And he was

at a laise with... At the beginning, he said, it's he was he was going to go to have

the conference in the school, for to be, I want, I mean, I mean, when you're

to say, you're actually by these men, you're actually by the women, they're not

sexual, homosexual, or there's not he's not had a choice. It was the obligation, but he'd drugged before, so he

was very docile. He wanted and he said like, oh, I know, I don't know, I don't know, you know, and then,

he's said that I'm there. And, like he said, it said, it can make start a person or in

save one? Because an parent, in this moment, let's on that it happens to a young and that,

and that the parent it's not it's not everyone that's not the same reflexes that's not because I'm

I'm saying even if he menace it's not I'm put up here I'm going to face-a-face

the police me just said you have not the right to put me to be able to get to

noture not you but I'm to be to be to be there's there are

there there are there there for my and I'm there for my and I'm to what I've been

to do with what I've been in my genest but if I would have been that, maybe I'd not have been

able to do that. It's your third infant? Yeah. You mean said,

you know, you've got to get, we're going to have a other? No, my baby

he had 16, they were two and a half he was okay, so he had already,

yeah, he had found the the chamber So, let's we're in he's made in hyper-vigilance

it's to get in the time we're doing, and he he'd dorms when we'd when we're

not, you know, he's very functional, there, there's not there, but for

he's no memory at short-term. It's had to do his memory at short-term. But,

he's his friend everywhere. He's, he's got to six feet and it's two hundred

book, there's six years. And my other, he measures five, and six, pays at 130, 137. So, you know, the, the baby brother. The baby,

the baby protector of grandfrey. Yeah, really. But it's, it'll have an impact on all the family, you know, all the family,

and, for real, my conjoin, that's what I said, I'd say, I'd leave my chapeau, I'm, I'd be parted.

Personally, I'd be parted, it's too, it's too gross, and when you you see your family degraded

and I would be to be in I'm in you know, you know, but I'm there's like

I'm in a skeleton. Why? I'm no longer I'm never, I'm doing,

I'm in the eyes, I saw, you see, and it's, and it's a few years, it's,

it's a back, and Kavak, because we're always not over because there there's not

there's no proof, there's a there's a fact, there's all the proof physical,

but there there's not no, I see. Yeah, It's not easy. But, you know, I continue to advance, and it's not what

it's not what I'm impage to work, it's not what they're not to be present. And today, my two children, my two years, they don't care,

because two and a minute of difference, it's, it's a minute of difference, me, and they're not, so they're rendered like,

they're done, like, it's called after in the house, it's a game on the same, it's a cuisine and they're

never been also proche, and my son, you're capable of to let's say, to be able to be a bit of a family. They'll know

never that. So, you know, even in the negative, there's a positive. Listen, sincerely, I wish,

I'd really, I'd like, I'd like there people who who enter in contact with you.

Maloreusement, if these people are in contact with you by that's because there's

there's a other young who have that's it's a time, but at the same time

if there's there's people who to communicate with to collaborate, to bring other proof

on these people that that, that, that justice was rendered that will not efface

what your can't have been but at maybe it might be maybe that other

people live this kind of that. It's something that comes frequently

you know, we can't a traffic human, you know, the word traffic human,

it's a great word and you know, when we think, we say, we know, we have a thing international,

the world who's vandal international and all that, but, you know, the traffic human,

I mean, a guy who pimped a fee, it's, it's, when you want,

when you want the service sexual of a person against on the we,

we call that, it's, you know, that's not, that's that's the level of a young woman,

of a young female, the age, no matter, the sex, it has not their place in our society,

do all, do all, and the people think that in Quebec, it's not, it's not, it's past.

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a lot, it's, it's much than what the people

can't do you think, and it's, it's a problem that a result that exists, it's a

person, there's there's there's not also, but, you know, if we can go, if we're going to try to eradicate that, it's at least that.

It would be able to, give to maybe a little bit more to juice to the police for, to arrive at a bout of something, and maybe also an kind of poe, perhaps on the shoulders of your

face, you know, perhaps, saying that these persons are out of detainer, maybe that can, it will be able to help us to deploy a little bit more, because I don't, it's those who

with the stress to say that these persons can come to in their life even if he's he's conscious of what he's

even if he's not a souvenir it's the the servo human is made in a way for the

for the yeah, when there's a souvenir that comes and then he's he's detaches

totally totally. Listen, we can't not say that the life not,

you've not made some Depeze. My grandmother She's... Mama at 12 and

all the he's on you followed by the suit, I'm sincerely I'm

just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm a little that's what I'm so that's, that's that that's a

good, and it's that so that do that do you don't know in your

life, or in the life of person. Because if person merit that. No, exactly.

My grandma, they'd all the time, he'd invite their combat to their best

soldier, I said, Mom, I'd say, Mom, I'd have done with the same that's the

same, that's that's all. That's my father. Yeah, that's the that's why, that's why

I'm doing, it's for that I'm doing, because at a minute, it's been that's right. You've been

made, you're well, you're, I'm content that, that you're that you're that,

that you're very very few to at this level that I'm going to say

the position of the Pimpopal it's a subject that we're already about it

but it's different and it's a layer very different also. All right all

what I do you really that's there's if you have seen

if you know if you know, you've seen a story similar with some people,

it's not just to be the people just to be that maybe it's maybe

it could maybe it could have done to talk to talk about that's that we've that's

we've been we've have an address couriel even if you listen on audio go on the

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there will have a fashion to to join thank thank you I see I know a little

moment when you have to talk these image. We have been sent it it's not

easy to repensate to all that after what you have traversed. No, but it's permit to

be open and I'm liberated. Diss like that it's a bit nyeasue but it's me liberer

to be able to be able to make like, but it's it's not a nizue I mean it's,

it's, it's, it's a liberation personal, I'm in all left a poe of

his because there I've been alone to take to take it's in the whole of

I'm saying I'm saying, everyone says it's in the head of my face, but it's

not in the head of my face, it's in the time of my wife, it's in the mine also. And,

I know, I know my community, the people who are people who you risk to have

to be good message of support, my auditors are We have a lot, many,

many, a lot of very good people who who are able to invite to give up to people who

people who come to the podcast. I'll see that you're able to do that. So, hesitate not,

but that especially if you recognize a history like that personal or of your entourage, you know,

I've done to listen the episode, and, you know, I've said, 20 times I'll repeat,

but I'll not too to repeat we'll get in contact if we can try to get to

get more more of more of all over so. Exactly. Thank to you.

Thank to being to be being used and I'm good, I know,

I know, I know, I know, I know that's the job of a man, but

bravo to be there to be back to, I know, I know that's normal for a

parent to do that, but, you, to not base the bra,

especially. Bravo for that. And thank And we want to really that

this episode has an impact. I hope. Thank you. Thank you, I'm going to arrive at something to

concrete in this story with this episode that with this episode. We'll parlor. Thank you.