Au Parloir - Épisode #118 - Nelson

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

Dans cet épisode, je reçois Nelson, originaire de Valleyfield. Après 30 ans cumulées dans les pénitenciers et une condamnation initiale de 13 ans qui s’est transformée en 23 ans derrière les barreaux, il partage un parcours marqué par de nombreux hauts et bas. Son témoignage est un message d’espoir, de résilience et de réinsertion sociale. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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Dave. Hello, Nelson. Thank you, thank you to be present. I know

that's a guy occupied, a new job, in your situation, not too It's so easy to be a job. I'm really chanced at.

With the parkour that you've got, you've got, like, you've got, you've made always the grand line a little of the person, and I refer to my collaboratrice, Catherine, and I've been

on the top of the list. I think that's something interesting. The proof is it's not, you have some long, you know, there's been, you know, there's five months, you know, maybe eventually to come.

It's been, you know, three weeks, that you're there, because you're the genre of person that I like really receive a great vehicle.

It's a podcast that makes the on far on on the reinsertion, the rehabilitation and I think that's a good

proof. I'm sorry with you, I'm doing the base of the beginning, you know, what kind of

of family, and we're and it's going to the Valley Field. I have a family

of a three children. Initiallyalment I've had a friend that I had not that I've been

when he was when he was two months, he was born in July, I'm in June, I'm in July, I'm in June,

My parents are the same name, so my friend who is dead. My friend Steve, my friend, my brother, Mike, my friend Steve, he was dead in 2011 at the age of 40 years. There's a little boy. You're sorry for that. Yeah. I was, I was at a pain when she's deceded. I've not been able to gore. That, it's all right, it's a lot of perspective of his life

when we've seen these stories, I imagine. It's hard. And I came to my family. My father, he parted when I had four years. But my mother, she's not yet, he's infidel. So, they're separated. My mother's maternal, maybe one or two, is to find a couple who at the time, he was alcoholic.

He had been there until 9, about, a bit of 9, and then, 9, and, and at age, and I have an old beau pair who attended my life, who is still there today. My mother, deceded, and for me, is my father. Okay. It's really a good person. He's always supported, always young. I've been fed rochee.

and he's He's still So I appreciate So I like, I like, I like my So, my friend Myr-Marke

I can't with him That's a guy He's in the dope Okay I'm asking To ask, or his choice?

It's my choice He's in the dope And that's a It's a thing But he's not capable to get to get to someone

He's not The last time I've been Casserer, Defonce at me, my meuble My Moble and

my affairs and I'll all over the marketplace So I'm the kind of guy So I prefer, I prefer not to frequent. Yeah, sometimes, especially when we have a

parkour like your, it's, it's good to do manage a little, and to s entourage a bit, and to be the better people to us. We've got to avoid to retombe in these old patterns. I've had two half-frerexie and Francis, since my father of his son, is deceded, I've been the real man with Francis. My friend

Maxime, it's my little friend, but it's like my grandfrey. From 2015, it's he's He's playing the role of the grandfair with me It's really Someone who's a Coch, it's a good

work, he's really practically an example for a model for me, it's true to say it's more than a role of the grandfair

but for the instant I'm not there's not there's got to eat preve in time as well but that I like that

I like that I'm very I'm very you say a infancy you say a lot to what? You're kind of

kid, you know, how it's how it's how it's Just in 2009, I've had been to have been a little bit of

a little bit of a little school, I have my two friends that's a few so I can't make a curate, I'm sure that's

that's going to and we're going to at a moment of a day. We're not I'm not too for the reasons but we're

demolaged some of some occasions. At the time I was a rocker in the years I had a choice long,

the time I just copied my friends And I imagine in an school where it was the young sportive. I'm not in the school in the

car, I've lived an indictation and a moment of the last year where it's a lot of a little bit, I'd want to

see my friends at the school that was a little bit more. I was coming there was a lot, I

had met someone of other. I'm called I'm named his name his name with him with him and he

had made with him and he had been my abseur if we're Okay. From 2009 to my 13th, 14,

this person had who had to dope and a coup benjoliby and we're doing us out. I'm sorry because at the

beginning he was really he had probably a picur paternal a bit more I'm pretty I'm a lot that's out of

it's out of it. It's so something we have too heard because you

who know have joined their card yeah and it's that I'm, you know, I'm part of the guy who's a normal that had at the school,

to go to the middle of the morning, Ben-Soo, Ben-Jolet. 9. 10-year. Yeah. And I can't say to my mother because I had to have a lot of things. So, my mother, I said, me married, why?

And then I thought, I'd say, because I thought, there's some of the things that I want to say, precisely, that's correct. But, well, certain menace that there were in the decor,

doing the sort that I'd want to say, that I'd want to say to my mother. But, so, so I'm a little bit to be in the other bond, but I'm going to destroy, so.

So, it's a secalice, you know. You know, you're destroyed by this story but you think more

to be in the time at the moment that, already, when you're a kid, so? Well, my mother,

you know, honestly, my mom has to try, to try, to get, to the gentia just to,

I'm, I'm, some of, if we, uh, on the end of the school, they were going to enter into a post, I'd go to the other

to go to the other to go to my aggressor because it was a while the night. There were the criminal who sat there. It would be able to be there at 8th at

the morning, it would be able to the morning. So I'd go to and my mother had gone to get at the car, they'd have been a

bit later and he's not there. So, they'd go back up and the car, you're in the when you'd be at at 8 o'clock if you're

more by fear of what you could be the repressair on the other people like your or all that

or it's it's just like the appell of the dope. You know, it would probably

arrive to but in the time you had been the doctor. The God, it's a

an astrologer very reputed. Okay. And the people who were at satanism

and it said, and it said to say that you could get in our

our point that I had used to get back to say and we had to say that for

they'd to respect to me than we would So I'd be concentrated on the contrary to him. So he controlled him

my respiration. It's at that point that. He had found his place and he was been inattached. And in the same

time, the guys with who he had lived in the same when I was with these guys like the

I had, you know, the other young, I'm there. But, it's so, it's a,

it's a, it's a, at my 13 years, the police were in the car, I think it's that it was the

fair affair. So he had an An Arquette for the drug at the school, and as a fact, I've been to meet, I've been talking to, I didn't want to talk, I'd want to say,

but there were nothing to do, but they'd have nothing to do. They've been the testimony of the principal against him. The guys who sat down with him, the proches, the people were criminalized, who thought they'd even make the menace. I'd say, by telephone, chino, the menace of my car, here at the school.

I had been to go to the school, I had to be at the house. So I'm assuming to to make a lot of foot that's in the street. I was going to be more than the family. Not because of the other

but at cause of the circumstances. And I finished by the place in the center of care to me protect, at the same moment my aggressor for not to be

not to tell me the young because I think it's like a 30 years she had a 30 of a victim that's really, that's really,

wow. To not have to tell me the aggressor they've done with he had not a year he had played eight more

and me I've made three months. So at this moment I had been to turn to all the adult I had just like

to get me in bed, I had no confidence to person I had afraid of the adult

So, so the abuser has been been in four, and the victim 13 months Yeah.

So, on the course, I've really a lot of my mother if it's a child

I can't not, I've been there in what I've been in prison. Today, it's It's worth

to say that. My mother had decided the year last. Really, designe to hear of

that. But, well, today, I'm able to see what there's not. I'm

to ask, when she had, when she had, you've been a new relationship with

her? Yes, but my mother had decided, it said six years, I'd

not, I'd say, I'd say, in June, when you're a matter, he passed in the month

of August. I was in at this moment I had a rechute I was in my exalt they've made

to pass a pistis and they're positive They're no, no, because

that's circumstances but they're circumstances but he had passed a piecestice after

consumption I had not consumed, he had got positive but at

that I didn't know I was the day my mom had been he called my mom

had been in my bed and he said okay I'm said okay he was

maybe two hours after I'm had to be I would have made a tour of my transportation, and I was in which he was in prison. I was arriving at Bordeaux. They've been in a cellul of 24 on 24 because I just arrived at the pen. I go, excuse me, I'm cut.

I'm going to, I'm just curious to have the relation with your mother. But I'm just going to just get to, actually, this famous 13-mole, that, which is the first time that you're trying to be in-firm. Yeah. A young who is in because he's not capable and he has a power to be in the school

he's not bad with his family he's like just being in the room and it's a victim and you view that how you see that in 13 years

or what you get to be in a center firm you you're entoured to young delincan of young

who consume probably of young who have probably of people who have seen as you've been

I'm I don't know I'm not how to describe I'm I think I'm just I've just become more stannant. I'm trying to...

In part of time, I'm not. I didn't even if I didn't even, I didn't even, I'm in my mom, my mom, I don't. Because, as well, as I'm in front of, I was even feeling culpable. I thought it was all. The aggression were totally of my fault. All right, I'm 18, 6.9.

Until I'm 10.000 to do you do in front of age. And then, by the Sud, for sure to be to be able to be able to be able to be able to be

like cool at all pre of the other I'd have to say whatever, that's just that I was just

that I was the time, I was the game everywhere where I was I'm not, I'm

not sure I said, it's changed that's changed with the time. Yeah, it's,

it's it's made in a of a cut, but I'm so, so when someone

had to something, if someone had to I could not, I'd be able to be able to be at this age that, when you're in a row, there's not a ton of zone of my age who are in the road. But I'm not in the same. I mean, you'd have to be my mom. But you'd have been more of time and you'd be in the night in the road.

So, it's so. For me, for me, they'd have to be the more than, when I had, I'd say, I'd. And my family, for me, that, it was, like my family for me, there was anything more important, I think I'd rather than my life for my my friends. It's a bit that's a bit that's

a bit of that's a part of your life at that I'm not someone in my

life personal I'm not really really really I'm I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not a person I'm not I'm in prison sometimes because

you're not in the same in the same time I'm in By the cellul, I'd have to be in the night and I'd have been able to the head.

You'd like to beck, I'd be able to do with many of the other things that I'd have I'd have done with a lot of people in prison. When you're liberated, after this famous 13-mole, adolescent, about what? 15 years? 15 years?

I've made one and out in the same of the for some of the chowl for the war of chow, some of the affection. You're resorted PIR than you're Ferey Because you're Possible

That's a question That's You're going to In the night He'd He'd be able To get in A young

Who'd To make Coup For Well, It's It's It's the

The only The same The same That I'm To be To be Someone, I'm saying

That's I'm That you Yeah Yeah You're So, So,

What, So, you're One, The President, In this time, we would have a lot of mescaline, we'd

do not our aggressor even in November had made to make a coque, I didn't have done

with him with him. Maybe it's not some of the heroine now. But I

young, it was probably about whatever what he passed, we'd say, we'd do macekallin.

Just not get the clear to, yeah, it's just to avoid to think to

to be able to be to be there. At this moment that that I was not that I saw you

I'd at the time. At the we'd trip, and we have fun. Yeah, it's and I do

often, you know, I think the word jolet, it's the mayor to really

to really express, because you know, we don't get to have to be fun. We gel of the sentiments,

we gel, some general, we get the word, it's the word, it's the word that has been

for that. The moment that we're on, we don't, we don't, we don't know at what we

don't, it's the moment present and the fun that it does, because there there can't a certain

pleasure in the other, you know, we'd do not. There's there's

there's a there's a there's there. But that's my my adolescence has certainly

especially had certainly in and out in a center of the house, that's a question of

two, two, three more, and I return for one, until my

seven and almost 18 years, there, there's a judge that made the possibility

to the apportage, which is a therapy firm. I was the minor.

It's not wrong with the tonne so, the minor in part of the partage. There's a pavilion

for the young, a pavilion for the young, a pavion of women, a man, an infant also. I've been

to be returned now. My portage, at this moment that I can say it's a life for the real man.

Because I would have in prison in the day that I would get in the day I'd be

never been able to have faced a man impossible. if they were been a victim and I'd have been

I'd have not pass over the You'd have not the carre psychological for affronted that? You'd never

Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I don't, I'd say but I'd not be able to travel, it's impossible

not over, it's impossible. So, I could say that partage I've saved a life a first time and,

and at middine in 2019, when I was finished portage, at this moment that he would have not in the accent on the group sport and you'd

finish it'd return to your life and you you'd try to not consume you know you've had there's utters

but you're that's so I'm gonna with the same people, the same people the same I've made a

final but in reality it's already it's a commercial but the people had been to spend,

you'd have been to be able to pen, so I've been to have been two years I'd have done two years

I'd have been two years I'd have been two years yeah that's you're I'd have been influenced by what the

people say, well, time at me, you're more at least in a time, you know, maybe a

first time, you know, you know, you'd have, you know, you'd have, five, like,

so at that time, I think, there were on the, times, at the time, the six-em even,

it's the same, I've had a one, one, minor, to the adult, that I've made pretty,

let's start , let's start two years before, and I, and I, and I, I'm not,

put a, all the other I'm atopened. If you came to, your first sentence, it was why? It was a car.

Okay. It was a been, it's been your dad at long time? Yeah, well, a young,

we had did the charles to play the tag. We had two char, we were talking,

we had already to say, I've never volled for their vans, it's always

for, it's always to get the to try to air, just, just just for just for

just to just, it's just, it's ridiculous because there, there's, there's,

In this case, it's not a consul, you know, you can do you know, we're also We're also Vendue. Yeah, we're finished by... You've got to

I'm able to get rid of course. But I'm sorry, that's just a one of my family... But, I think,

you're like, you're like, you point in a two years, you're on, you know, you're 19, you me say? No,

I, I'm 18. You're 18? You're, you're going to run to open? No, no, because I'm

I'm arrived at reception. Today, Because of you, there's a penitace of MacArthur, that's all the word, the crapples. Yeah, it's, it's sure. At this time, there, there was a lot normal that felt all the time there. And I had used some people at the center of the reception who's going to go. I asked him to go, because I was new, me, let's it go.

And there's, like, not violent. It's, like, one would say, a maison of Lange, there. So, the first sentence, that's it made, fast enough. When I've passed a liberation conditional, they've, they've made an error. and they were they said, when we were they were talking to they were talking about

that they were a car, I mean a liberation conditional, and I'm making after those other and I'm sorry, and I said,

what you said, what you say, I'm not, I'm saying, I'm, you know, I'm a guy, fame to y'all, when I'm talking to

when I was over when I was out of the other, so, so they've made a excuse, and they've made the excuse, and they've done

in the word, in saying, you've been you're saying, no, no, it's more, it's more, it's just,

we're, like that's not really sure. Hey, sometimes the bureaucracies who makes a lot it's a bit a lot of advantage. But this time

this time I'm out of my friends that, you've done your two in plain? No, I've got,

I don't know, I'm not, I don't know, I've been a lot of time. A couple of months and, yeah,

and there's too, yeah, and there's at this moment that one of my amy who

is of my agration so I'm a little bit of a pre-nong. It's not my friend, but it's my friend. Patrick. His wife, who is one of my friend, Melanie, he's an aunt. She had to have a friend.

He can't even be able to be social, and he's not going to be a lot of, and he doesn't do with others, no more. I was arriving at home, and he said, if I was going to do with him

for the party with him. So, the coup, I said, no. I got to do you, and he passed on the night to do the cassette. Just to be my job. It's not

I imagine you have to be able to see too too yeah yeah yeah

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm really really

I've never I've had I've had I've had two battles I'm I'm not that I'm

at this moment that I'm a little naive I'm I said I'm I'm talking

I'm saying I'm I'm talking to I'm I'm talking I'm so that's today today

that's I just said to get to say Now, you know, it's not because you know, if someone's a bit of the face, it can mark the world. There's been a bit of accident.

So, you're going to find out of the bank? We've done, we're doing it, we're in the commerce. And then, uh, at the last year, so we've got to have to be arrested. When you were put into, when you were too, the two-door-bord, so we said, we'll open the port, we'll try. The questioner has said, no, we've got to tear up to open the door. And there's someone who's who's on the earth

because there's there's a woman who has made a ball of 32 in a face and she's me who had the 32 in the mind. I've tried

to find a justice reparatrice to write a madam to, you know, for, I'm not really, I'd say that she'd like, she'd have fashed

that she'd have had been there, there's a chance there, and it's been doing it, I've made the justice reparatrice, with other victims

of vote of the bank. And he's a gerent of the bank I've metry and he said If you want to repair it, I'll show you I'll say, I said, I'll return to repose. So I've used to do this, I've written a long letter I've explained my life, that I wanted to understand

I'd never, and I'd rather than, I'd ever get it or not, I'd ever be able to, you know. And then a man who has responded to, she said that the vote of the bank that had been the more violent that had never lived, and she had ever lived but she'd have been married, it's a good madam.

It's important for you to do do have a certain pardon of your victims I wanted to search a way to repair and I did it and I've done it

when I did it happen when I was not too dangerous yeah that's contrary to the macas it donna it's braw

and I'd have I was in cashe I'd have the bibliette in a car in cachette yeah yeah yeah yeah

this question and it's not a piece that's a question. At the base, he did you

for us or for you? For us other? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I,

it could not really really to be able to I, you know, I'd not, I'd not know my

victim, it's a monsieur that I know, and my question to him,

it's like, how I'm the only the only answer I'd say, he'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, it'd just so, it's just so, it can find a difference. No, I'm sorry, I understand. No, it's correct, I can't

that's, we're trying to tell you, they're not necessarily that they're not necessarily, who are, they're doing, but I understand that sometimes it's not always easy to pass it. You know, I was 19, 20,

he was in prison in the field, he'd be afraid 18 years of sentence. My head, I'd have been able to my mother, you I'd have finished, you

in pleurring. Yeah, because, you know, of one, yes, it's a vault of the bank, but the fact to open the fire

if someone was a way to be to be armed with lesion and then it's armed a fire

because we get in the crime violent, you know. But now we're in the case.

We're in the prison of Valleyfield and we don't know, we'll let's invading. Like, prevenue, yeah,

it's so, you know, I was in my sentence of my sentence of the pen. Ah, yeah,

because, oh, yeah, it had had done to You've got to remonted to the conditions. I was going to go. I was going to go. Yeah, you're going to finish a pen?

Yeah, I was going to go. I'd go to Valleyfield. And I'd have put to me bad at the road because you'd sort of the forgo on cellular, corollarily on the troteroor, but still there, I'd be able to try and we'd

part of that we'd partying on the same. It's been to see an event manual that we've seen that the Carthine of Valleyfield had been like certain, I'd, because I'm not insult, no, person,

but he was kind of quite as if he'd still I was just a story of the postage, the other detenue to that's

so we've decided to find a place of course to get to get in the case, we're abhorred in the cello

and I'm trying to go to get to retresserce and there a char of police that's an

out of restaurant in a car by a lot of who had to descend at 11 hours of

by the by the prison a drop blanche on on on the so it's they're in

when you when you when you did when you did on, it's just you and your partner? You have

pung a gang in the I'm in my partner a man, my partner, a

other guy who had wanted to a lot of another guy who's a lot of Patrick

who had just us just us had just to say, okay we're doing, we're doing, we've had

made some it's real, but it's false and we had reached to bring the control

with the passos pastro poor psychos. Well, you know I've done a chair

but that's that's but he said, he said, he said, we say, we want to not you to put us in the arm, to fire, for you to have to help me the pot. He's not only 4-year-old for this tentative of evasion.

So, you know, you've already a 18 that pence in the end? I've got to, I've had a totaled 13-year. I've had, I've been able to pay off the... So you're going to, you know, you're going to, you know, if I started after that, I'd have depended a lot more than that. I've pledged, I pledged on, on a fix. I've had put my bank, four years, the price of time.

It had to have been a certain of 13-in at this moment, there, plus the two years I had, 15, I'm at a question, if you

think if you had not had been in process for the bank? It would be not

with the arms, it's not with the money, we've made with our

driver, we're trying, we're to do the change of the change, he had

been a rain, so we had been in the train, the truck that's

there's a trucker that block to the road, so much that he attended

the car, so that he The police, we were going to be able to be in a house, we had to be in a court of chalet, and we're parted in the border. But it's the 13th of January. The year, until there, and we didn't want to abandon the urgent.

So, when you were just to stop, there, there was a lot, and there were some of the first, there, there were, there before, there was a lot, and there's a lot, we got backed two a few times because there had some of the other place. the madam said, I'm just the guardian here, the children and they're trying to try to board of the

road, and it's the mayor of the village of Norwick is the mayor of the city, and he said, hey, it's not a lot of course, because he said, he said, we've had a problem with our skidoo,

we're able to do, we're able to find a skidoo in a tut. So, we're going to arrive at garage, then the shot, the police would arrive, we're trying to

to shoot on our arms, we'll never rents to all the arm, it's always not a bad thing. It's a very good affair. But, you know, it's it's a few

because, you know, I'm mad at the table, you know, like, the guys, they've been to have a car, you know, there's a car, the police arrived, you're prete to stop,

that's gone? At the moment, we see, it's passed to all right, you're still, you're still, you're kind of, but you're having

in a house, there's a house, you know, no. No, but, you, it's, you know, and I'm that, and I'm sure

that you say, because it's a certain comprehension of, you know, we're doing, because we're a bit

obliging to have been, but there's a limit that we're not ready to be able to be able to

a woman to be able to you know, there's there are nothing to be nothing, but nothing,

but I'm going to have a man who's to have to make a man, I'm not able to intervene.

Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. It's so it's a quantity of the guy who

are not pasted on this footho that who have the syndrome

the same of the saver, and in a meantime we're doing much of I think it's a value. Yeah, yeah, I know,

but it's, you know, but it's a bit what I'm trying, and, you know, my view,

it's not, it's not, it's not, no, no, but the people who assume what they've done,

and who demont, that, that's, you know, you know, there, you, there,

there, there, there, there, there, there, you, there, it's a, it's a,

it's a, that you've taken that's a time that for other reasons, you know, but I'm

to have some people who assume, and with what you do the way that you do you do it, there's a,

there are, there are, there are there are not rehabilitable, because they're not re-inserable, there are,

they're not that's, you know, but there are many people in our prisons that are not in our

people, there are many there's a lot of there, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of we're going

to go to bar There's a good one in their There are there who are They're all who are They're in there who are They're saying Like when they say

It's not good That's not I've said, I've You know, I've heard to say that but there's There's good policemen Like there are

There's good plombier Like there's Like they're Like for For the guardians of Prison, you There are There are who

There are who There are There are There are some people There's a lot They're in the And there There's just it's not

It's not true There's all right Inundance there we don't know where it's and it's there and it's there and it's it's not

13 13. Yeah. You'd do you pet how many on 13? Uh,

fh. So, that's final at 23 year. It's the growthy and

I've got to you, you're, uh... You've commas at this moment that I don't know

because you're at your own sentence. So, so, you're there's

pretty I'm pretty my time to do you're pretty much I'm, yeah. I've

had 18 18 18 time of the on my first 23 years. What's that's that

repose? What's it's that after eight you can't do you do not

a demand of liberation conditional? I'm I'm part of the first time I had

extremely afraid it's violent and when when you when you're young

the pue they're they're they're they're they're disp

to all young because they're not if he's solid, you know, they're going to be in

a lot of time and it's there's a whole of course so people would have to do you know and then

you're going to get a group we're doing on the same we're doing a fun together. It's that

you've been to do you had to be present? It's an impoverable. It's there's been

there's been there's a period more people but in the office in the gym in the gym and the

carriment in the gym the visitors there were there were there were there at the table,

the joaned rocoli, at a view to the whole of the director of the establishment had had been to

me to be in this time and he said he said, he's a sacraman and it's it's not

the other, it's not the contrary, and it's a collie sometimes, he said, he said,

we'll make the police over, because we had the, we had, there were the bottle of

si, the money, had seen, the visitor, they were sure, there were, there were, there were,

there were, there were, there were, there were, We can't see what to do what to do. And, you know, there's a 20th of young who sit in a while, you know, the other poniard of other, you know,

the other point of course. It's like, it's a matter of sacrament will be my tour a day. So, I've got to do with a cuttle with my running in the pi, I don't know, I'm sorry, I don't know, I'm telling, to have a year, and I said, you're not telling you to have a yearn't know,

and I'm not, I'm not able to see. And he, he made an pick. And he said, a tell. Fett's a preve? Well, he'd say, if I'm not up at you, you're not going to be afraid. Malarisman, he's a reason. And I'm going to tell.

That's so. So, you've to have to have to be afraid? Yeah. But, yeah, it's not that you have to retent this pre-reputation that, you know. Sam, have you been sent to my victim?

Yeah. I don't know. I don't talk about you, because I've got to charge. That's correct, but, yeah. In a way, there's not an year, there's not. So, for he to put it on the door, it would have to flee long. But it's so.

Today, he's more. He's more of an overdose. It's not, that. But when we're talking to demand that, is we're asking this? It's an answer, but it's so. It's like, yeah, it would have it arrived. No, it's just that it's who

that he had. So you, he'd don't know the opportunity to have to have the chiennes? He'd been the curate of a lot at the time. just found out of ponies, and all the mom of the motor machine, just bar with a machine, they'd just be with a machine, they'd have

all right, transfer to region, and all, and what he said, at this moment, that, it was that he said he had stoole because he had entered to the dope, and he had returned

to PCP, and it's Els, who tinned their PCP, so they had returned to the PCP to the ELS, and the guy, for, to pay a debt that they had, in a story, it's a story

quite, so, the guy did, He'd run to put up. So, he said, if the curing run to put in the other, then he'll have still more. So he'll be able to

continue to, it's complicated, but it's there. So, yeah, it's a good reason to mange a coup of puke. Yeah,

the curie that's a pannier, it's like a big plug that the guy can't get, yeah. It's not

the guy the guy the guy the fullier when he gets impressional the curate. I'm not tried to try the affair,

but the curries was plagued the affair long the even. You've started to forge your

reputation that's yeah. But honestly, I'm entered in my cellul the night and

I'm not a little bit I'm sorry and you're like, well you know, so you can't

cry that you have done that it's a violent. The fear is far. Yeah. You know,

what's the most dangerous? A great chien that comes to get to over to you

get to the baton and the ch he's in the chien, he's in the in the corner, he's in the chie that's in bould

in the corner, and he's dangerous, not the chie that was done to to attack. It's so it's totally like,

I'm even not, I'm remember not, I'm not in the event. It's all that the pick has passed.

And it's the guy cried, hey, you've got to pick, I'm going to give a pick. You're going to be there.

You were, I, you're not, that, you're not, I, you're not, it's, it's, it's like, it's a lot, you, and,

and, and, That's So, so. So, so. So, so. Don't fuck with me.

That's what I'm, what I used, I used to pick, but I, I crashed the murs, the trussed,

the mues, the mowers, they're fotted, the mace, they're, so, I'd get, not that cliques

mann't ever of arm. I was, I was, I, the, I'm the fact, so,

so, so, so, I, I've, I've been made a lot at 50 guys,

no, no, to have you been having this reputation that's in a having to be to find out of your own

you're doing to do you're doing more peasant or to to be affrocious by an organization that's present or?

I've been I was close the Rugg Machine at the time I had some of the other. I was in

there. I received the cards of the bannis of the planet when the switch is made.

I had been there's someone who's who's made a list. It's that I mean on the list

I had a cradisk and I'm not even not going to tell you don't have a bell

vest in queue marked in the back of I'm I don't I don't I'm

I don't know I'm I don't know I see I've seen these cards there a bit

everywhere at the planet at the moment where the RECMachin was time for in probation Bensis

Bensdoz but but it's that. My my my machine

had a mentality a little family you're not a hierarchy really

in the group the name the name the other you could also well as

much for everyone that the guy in bo would have to be there

there there was there there were there there was a group family

it's a The president at the time, it's a Sicilian, so I think it was probably certainly to have been there to be. It's more principal-family than other things. And during the war, it's a bit of that it's a bit of that we service on our board to be for to differentiate the other side. And when it's become Bandsidoz, there's a group who are in the United States,

and they're in a sector, and he has started to agate with six boys of cereal, who ran out, they were four for the table of four and two for the rest of the world

and it's the chican it's a part of a war that between my gang of my gang

of my and the bandis other who was there. I'm not there at this moment

that I was in through and when I was you know, because you had

been a need to keep I think I think I'm about disciplinar

in the pay of the pay the pay I'm let I'm talent, we had to do a lot of alcohol, I was going to

get to get into, but I'd have to do you see, the guardians. But I'd have to do you in front of, I said, I was 18 years when I was trying to do. And when I was trying, it was at the war, the bandos had to have made out of the population. And a a big gang, if they're going to descend to Archeambeau, we'd have not any of the population there. And the security is not allowed to enter. In fact, it's that the galley-motor really finished. The Rock Machine, Bandidos, it was in the trouxed in the corner. There was a meeting with the gang adverse.

And they're all 30-9-2-40, not runny one after the other. And it's what I'm going to find in a motor. It's the real version of the fact of the Garda-Motor. When I hear the fight of the ponies, it's not really, it's there that it's a finish. It's all right. It's a regular name. It's a regular economy. It's a lot of business.

It's not, but it's not my stuff. No, no, no, no, but you've seen, you've lived, you've been, you've been, you're not, you're not, no, it's the way to say. It's what you've seen. You're, you know, there's a lot, you know, you know, there's, you know, there's, you know, there's a lot,

and so far, I don't know, I mean, I don't know, this part of the story, what's the story, I don't know, but if it's the... You know, and I, you know, I'm saying, to say to your place, who me explained exactly, how this war, that, because he was, he had,

at the next to on Raymond defossed you know that he he made not the other and then

he was just more so it's well we have an episode it's coming and a

episode how it's I've I've I've known Raymond at Rivier Prairie

in 1997 17 17 when when a a bit after I was

I've done after I'm I'm after the United I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm it's not a it's a it's a co-dentenue. It was kind of someone who

was respected and who had for the values of the milieu and he had he's appraisant there's not the king of

nothing. It's someone who works to get to someone for the middle, it's a good person.

Yeah, in the middle he's like a person respected and respectable if we can say that.

When this guy that finish it, I imagine it, it's change the ambience of the prison? It's been

I can say because he's Marke Sagan it's a snowboard and said the click to make

at Sagan okay I'm I'm saying that people said that's that's always it's not at

that's not it's a It's a man if someone if someone if someone somebody

had tried to have to say they're saying he didn't approach to all the all the same

supposedly there's somebody that there said that he said that he'd I mean, the contract on him. So, when Nelson, no, he's not too sharp because Nelson, he's not

long. So, so, your reputation, it was made, it was solid. We're at the end up in these years, yeah, yeah. I'm, yeah. So, the guy who pick for the first time when he comes down in his cellul, he can't not crook what he came to do, is it something that, with the time, in this universe, that, in this mode of life,

in this prison to manned to put this thinking to say I can't I can't I'm not quite part of the gang

it's a rest when you're when you're in a cell commune and that's it's the affair and it's sure

that you're sure that you're you're sure you're just important you feel it's a little it's a bit and you feel

at the at the time it's you're like a respect but you that you're not

Well, you know, I'm... From one to the other, you, you, you, you,

you, you know, when the events arrive, and that the part of the cell, and you're

all the same, I, there's not a few, I've used, that I've been with that. Okay.

I'm in the mirrorer, and maybe, there's a lot at the time, I'm going to be in the I mean, there's an event I'm a guy

that's a guy who who had to get one in a really person who wanted to go. We didn't want to get to go. So, it's me

who had been. And I'm trying at the chienne. So I've really done the coup, I don't know

it's not that it's just one bar. And I've never had so much of that. It's a

team of Zah who's been in the toilet because there were too sense. It's, and I

didn't know I'm not good to me. It's bizarre. Yeah, because, you,

it's because that's, you know, it's, you know, Dr. Jake Hill and Mr.

Hike, you know, but, that's the same person, but I, but, you know,

my view, it's, it's not the flesh, I'm, but, you, you're in the world

you, you view that, and if, in the time you know, it's not excusable? No.

I think I, I think, you'd assume, if you know, if you don't, you'd be able, in saying that's someone who's someone who has done

to do what that's not, it's not, you know, he's not, you know, you can't be able to be able to

be able to be able to be able to be to be the same. It's the sole that you can, you can,

you can learn to go to he's fared that what's what he's made, you know, because it's that I did, it's what I did. It's a little bit of the

money to get, it's a year. But I look at the show that today, call, is that it's not, there's not, there's not, you know, I've got to do you know, I don't know how at the point at the camera, if it's a cent, and, you know, I'm saying, and, you know, I'll see, I'm not, you know, I'm not as to what you're talking, because

you're repens to, you, but I, you know, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I respect, the fact that you assume, what you're made, and you know, in the remorse today, and you're not, you know, you're not, you know, there's not a fearty. There's been a year, perhaps, because it's, with the

milieu, it's coming with that, it's with, the genus, it comes with, the conso, it comes with plenty of things, you know? You know, when we're young, the life, we're going to have to do with the choice that a young never have to have to do with, you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to do with

that. I'm sorry with that, I'm not me out of nothing, you, you feel the choice. When you say that you're in there, you're not able, but you're doing doing, you know, I'd say, if you're talking to choice, but at this moment, you know,

these choices, they, you know, they'd not be imposed, it's the choice that you have done. But in the same time, you've done, is it a victim all the time I'm going to be here? Or, I'd would have been a call it to victim? I'd have been. I'd have been. I'd say, you'd have been. I'd

would have been. I'd say. I'd have not been capable to rest in this fear all the time I'd have been a kid of car, it's an affair.

When you say that I'm in cellul and I passed a motel in the door, and had to be really, it was really,

I could not get that an place that could exist. But, I've done know the money now.

It's all these little sector. It's all right. It's still violent. But it's... Especially, the more you

mount in grad, at the max, when you're super max. You're also, the gang of rue, it's something that's something I, I know really,

it's not, I know, but I guess, it's not, it's not I've been, you've been, you've had been

in these epoch that. Yeah, I've, I've, I've lived, the, the,

the, the, the, and, you know, and, uh, volleer. So,

so, so, so, yeah. For Parame afterm, it's been long time

they're with the And I love the people human. I do it every debut of podcast. For me, it's important. And, you know, the companies of insurance, you're

a number, you're a sign of pias, you're nothing for us other, okay? And an assurance life, it's something super important for not to let people

that people who are in the business, when you're not really if you're some the antecedents medical, if you're a bit too aged, if you're a dossier, if you're

a dossier, but the assurances they don't even don't even the time to finish to get to take to the bag of Belle. Comparre my premium,

they're other, it's no case, they're going to take your dossier, they're to talk like what you're,

they're going to take in consideration, they're going to get the company that will accept to give an insurance of life. It's a

long time that's I've got because I'm plenty of people because I'm going to give a feedback positive because

it's the human who treat the people, not like the people, not like people, contacted, compare my

Prim. You're you to agree to say that you're entered a young with

some with some with the problems of consumption and it creates a monster I'm I'm not

I'm not I'm I'm I'm I'm I see at what

at a point it's normal that someone doesn't with not of

not of not of mechancest not of aggressivity, not the viand, you know, you know, you know,

it's like to be two two battles, you know, you know, these guys capable of

to find what you're talking, I know, it's the guys who are the same over the age of 10

and it and it's going to be to be able to be able to me defend, the young, it's my

friends, my friends, I'm not, but, you know, I think, I think, it's so,

the switch that, that these establishments that, you're obliges to be, because to say

that's the the obligation to the violence for to start it's, it's, it's, there's not

that's not there's there who's there, there's, excuse me, there's there who are,

they're going to be protected. I'm, they're going to be protected. I'm not, I'm sorry, I've had been

twenty-seven in prison around, and I've never been in a relation homosexual, there,

there's a, there, we've got, we've talked, and I, I can't I don't understand. I was just a woman.

But I like my my wife and my mistress. No, it's that. I said, I don't know if you're a camera or or having a camera, but we're talking about, I've been a bit of a bit of a day, and you said, oh, I've got to have these estes of bono'embrose. He's just to pay $2405,000, I'm not gross.

Oh, well, what's you're in front of, in part of, to eat and push, not a lot. Today, I have the doffinies. Yeah, it's not the mayors equipment that's okay. It's because we're because we're trying to

get mad at the pot of food and... You know, you want to be impressioner, you want to be a couple of guys that's entraned

on the same and we're following Yeah, that's so. Arrivy you to get to rent to the stock of gym

on there? There's been to do people do people do stock in the sauce? I've seen in the years in the 90

I never had ever made. I've I've wanted to do it, and the occasion, it's not a don't know if it's not done, but it's not done, but it's not done. No, but I've had a period that I've been to have to have arrable

my sentence, since then, where I was going to get to do with a while, I've been, I've been in a few couple with a few years, we're done, we're doing, we're in a sudden, not just for rent a of the dope, and it's, and it's my cost, it's worthed 13 years, in reality, in the case. That's, you know, one of the reasons. between other

for which your It's not a It's not a It's not a It's not It's not a It's not

It's a It's not Yeah, and the manned and then and the guy who

got in the manned me, so I'm I'm sorry Ike say it's my

wife and and a guy who's out of the plan to find to find

to go at my and with him with he and he he has

finished by the to be to his and the police has

said something it's not too how they're in, it's not it's going to say it's not he said,

he said, I'm married on the motor, and I was in the counter of murder. When I was there's not,

absolutely going to be there. I'm sure. I'm going to say, I have absolutely to have to be there but I'm

going to do that the process, and my lawyer, my lawyer, said, you're going to be able to

because he had the proof that I had been to have been the guy who was a guy that I'm

going to say it's because he was going to with the skirt of the against a murder to this guy

that's impossible. But, but there are two guys who had said I'd have had to have been in

my life. This guy that, he had been in the place in the process of murder.

He's finished with a TV in his cell for me. It's right. There's a omitium, a TV

and a radio to say that a guy that's so. I've got to nom his name his name.

It's a crappo. It's just the crapele he's made to abuse the vien madame

to the the affairs of them in love and they've got to go, no matter. It's, it's all that guy that we're...

We're... We're... We're... You'll get a little after, if you were really, in the case, but I'm not show

of the non of the person's on in life. No, no, but it's not... But it's not.

But it's not. But it's... So, it's, for not putting in a sentence in life, I,

I'm not, they're paid because that's I'm not... They're going to... They've been... they're... they're...

they're... They were going to descend the complaint of murder, on the way of murdering, and certainly the jurisprudence of the court of pretenant of 2001. So, I've put in a 13-long-currant that had set up a consecutive on my sentence.

I mean, I said at this moment, well, my family to have been my two-tier. So I'm going to do with my first sentence on complete. But I had been too violent in the meur that had been maintained in incarceration.

It would say that he said that guy is too violent, that if we can just continue, so he'd have found his three-tier. I've made make to find my

2300 complete I'm you're violent in prison but in the time

but for us but I ask the question we'll we'll arrive

at your after but is is that all that that

you're this person that a a minute it it can

it can't it you it's it can you it's

you don't no no because Because it's, for what reason I would have done to do that out.

But it's because in a man, it's that it's really a modus operandi, you know, no? No.

You had the certitude that out, you'd say, not the guy in the in the day? Or,

you'd do the question? Well, it's not more. It's me that's a fact but I said,

but I'd say, but you to be the question a minute, if you're run to more? No,

you know. You know, you know, even not the question to be the question. No, no, but in the sense

that's, you know, I'm in the time I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I never,

to make, to make, to make, to make, the car, there's, there's a , you know,

to get to not the car, to get to the way, I'm not at the point that, I'm still, I'm still,

you know, you're in a business, there was, there was a, the other bar of the and he paid the other guy

to go to go to make the commission of the because he didn't because he

didn't know to try that he was able to not able to analyze the time to get to the time.

I was not that. I'm going to get in a restaurant. I was at a portage and I

was called by my agent at St. Jerome, I don't know I'm not the place,

I was disoriented. I was not to go to get to go to where it was and the man to get to get a

little bit of a little a little bit of the prison in malade. And then it's in front of my head. They were afraid I'm going to go and up.

I don't know if I was out of the rickland. I was going to be able to do with the restaurant, and I'm not able to be able to turn in there. I'm not going to turn in there. And I'm trying to me gerry, but at 11 o'clock, I'm in the same. So, he said, we don't have not the choice.

He called the police. He was going to remit in prison. I've got a psychologist for during two weeks, to get rid of panic, and I returned the portage. I've done the crisis of panic? The crisis of panic, has you calmed when you're returned? You're like You know, you know, you know, I think

Oh, I think as soon as I put in my mouth I'm going to cry, I'm going to cry, and then the case of panic you'd have parted. Because you know who you'd and were safe, where you'd because it's that you know. In the same time, you're, you know,

you don't know, you're not to be bad, you know? I'm not, I'm sorry, I don't understand, because I'm, I've lived with an other scale, but crisis of panic to, like, to mentire to taxis that I was

diabetic, and I'd have to I'd pick at the insulin, then I'd gove it for he'd face the speed, burn the light, and the minute that I'd get in my apartment, fah!

It'd parted, the crisis of panic had disappeared, like if I'd never made of my life, you know? But fuck, you're a other layer, that's the prison

that's, it's too of time, it's, and then, you're, it's, to my 14 years,

but, um, 42 years if I didn't even not I've made an hour and a minute and you know

we say you do you say you said you know what you're to demand a two year because we said

at what I'm talking to get with a lot who's been here and he did you know there's not there's not

there's not there's not there's not the program there's not too open there's plenty of programs

you're so you can you can't you can do you can do you can't do you can't you depend on to the world

of the hour or the gas Yeah, but you Open, you you know, you have these programs to help you, to help you,

you're doing in these programs that, or? I did it do do you. Yeah. I did all I, I can

say, a program that makes it make me get in the tech, that you have always the

choice. Sinon, these programs that I'm able to do you. Yeah, it's that,

you can't create a, you can't create a new? Yeah, it's so. You know, at the moment that you're going to have done,

it's a little time show, it's the, the gestion immisive. But, you know, when you're... When you're... When you do you do, because you're not obliged, but if it's going to be done in a medium, if you're going to have a pep,

as if you're made, if you're made, if you're not to be able to do it, because the other side of, you, if you're really that you're really that's really the first time when it's been in the program, uh,

In other You'd have to To get rid your Chmise For a bit of That's it So, so I'd have

To ask you For you For you? No Or you Faised for Outs? For your

To be For being To be Parade And so It's a Wynne You've got

A Wynne A Watt You know I'm It's kind of If I'm You know Everyone

They'd Bouged As hours We'd We'd We'd I'd like, I'd say, I'd have not the guardians, even if you had

from the other sector, and they said, you know, they're not there to start out of the place, I'd have to open the door to the hallis, we'd have certain poe, we'd have certain...

It's that, but, in the phone, it's by pair, I imagine, you know, if we'll let's, you know, if we'll just, not just,

it's that, it's just, it's that, it's just, it's like, it's right, it's right, so, you know, but, you know,

if you're trying to make shied, I'd be t'clock eclat the violence on the other board. I'll just say, I'd just say, I'll just say, you're going to what you're going to that.

If you're doing, you do you're doing, you know, but you're going to say no, but it's really, when you think, when you think, Chris, at what it's to serve, the police,

it's the serve, to guard a stability, to avoid the violence, it's exactly what you do you do you do. The few, I've made to someone, it's either because he

had talked, or because he had aggraced a woman, a friend, or, or, or, or, or, or,

that, you know, it's the affairs of the same. The famous clackage of port of cell, it's all the same. Yeah, but... Yeah, but... The rules

non-encry to see, the ring, you know, you know, you know, so, you know, but there's a lot of things that we'd get into,

there's a lot, there was an engine past in the time that's a gang, and he'd come out of the west, and, and for us other,

they'd, the stock of a guy, it was, you know, we'd say, and we'd It's not in Quebec. It's a strange

of pen if it's not as well if you're quite a lot to get married to someone because he volle

to goff. So, because if he would be able to goff he's that they're going to

that's what that's that's what but it's the regs it's the regs, you know,

you know, you know, it's because if we let you go to go after that you go away

after that you go away, after that's it's so, it's where you have to stop that's the

sole fashion to be the same I mean, you know, I've seen the director of an economist and then said, if there's not an ambulance, during my month of vacancy, I'll pay you pay, and I'll give you a little bit of plus, and I'll pay, you know, and we'll have

all due to stay, you know, the second that's the second that's coming out of the economy, and the second year, I think it's been two ambulances in a lot of two weeks. All right, all the costs are all right, all that's accumulated for a month. We had all due July, until two July, until two July, wait, attend to July,

until two July, a year, Who has the Big Boat the Baton in there? Today Today I'd say It's the Service Correctional Yeah

And at the time At the time It was we're at the time The time of the motor They're getting a vapor You know, we're not There's not a detector of metal There's not a camera

You have some guys They'd even I'd read on the PCP They're far and dangerous We'd set up 50 in the same time and the other had to work in the control. Yes, they're armed

but it's very made, but it's not quite not the time to take a Trump there's, but they say, they're saying,

they're doing, they're doing, you know, they're putting, you know, they're talking, you know, they're saying,

they're not to get back, they're not, they're not, there's, there's, you, there's got to have to do

to do you, I think, they're going to get the control in this sense that, they have, the affairs

that have never the control, the entrants of drugs and today I think the other part of the

thing it's better today with the drone and so but I don't know I'm not

I'm not I'm not quite to be sure in the sties in the ball of tennis

no just just just just for the visit yeah yeah

visit the roulet it's yeah yeah you're I'd say I'm

I've been to come to do you I've done of people for si for

For that, for that, for that. And you said, Infant or Fame, it's an automatist? Yeah. If a guy, he goes, he doesn't and he's not

at a protect, and you know. There are these guys who attended and there and there were the affair

of the crime conjugal and that it passed. Why, I don't know. I think that,

the values of the milieu, I think, are malayable. So violence Congregal, it's your femme, it's a bit.

No, it's not so. No, no, I think it depends on the gravity. Okay. I think it's who's people who someone who's respected

and the moment forming the Oriole. But someone who passes a woman for his pleasure personal in the room? It's not so if he's not

in protect and you'll learn. Yeah, it's sure. It can't go to where? Oh,

it's not Dependant, the guy, because they're not there, when you're going to try, but when you're at the prison, you know, it's not the salary. No, it's all right, honestly, I've seen, in the same past, a firm that's done to say to see, at St. Jerome,

with the guy who is multi-residivist 13 or 16 times that had been remounted? It would be a bad girl, and that the system, that's, they've had been 16, 16 chance of... It's going to give you an idea

of when we're turning, but dimmage, you know, a couple of people, all the people of all, the minister, They were there, and they were they're talking about, because I don't know if I'm talking about, I'm talking about,

and it's the question that's the question that's asked. Why, that's a guy who had had 13 brief of conditions, 13 or side or whatever,

that? Yeah, give me a bit of condition, we'll have one. I'll have to be a minute, but he's,

but he's probably in a quarter of and he continues to find out of off. I mean, I'm with that. And, you know,

yeah, today, I'm conscious, that when I've I've done my armaged, it's a fat man with the people. No, no. There's the kastial

that's traumatized, there's, there's a commas collaterale, plus than a domage, you know, it's an indirect, it's not,

you vised not, it's not, but it's so it's so, it's so, it's so, but, you, it's so,

but that someone aggressed an friend, or 20, or 10, or 15, who will scraper these 10,

15 of a villa because it's that it's so that it's, and that's that it will be done the chance,

I think it's totally it's a lot of it's a lot of difficult with that

if you're not going to respond to the next question there's no problem have you

have you have you have to to try to you? I'm

I'm you I'm I've got hurt to have to be I'm not someone who's in the life, I'll put in a few of the verres, and I'd have a lot of it in 1999

to be the sit here two times. And I was rebeye to the troupe at the morning, I was in a boxer, I'm bullied by the gas, I remember what's what's the past.

And I'm there's a man with a little guardian and then it's a guy who

he said he'd and he's a guy he said he said he'd see a

guardian yesterday yesterday. I sat sit on my lit and I passed

to cry and he he had been five minutes and it's a

a joke and you I'm had said that I'd have been

I'm not I'm not had to have been to have lost to alcohol I'm

it's I'm crue I'm not I'm I'm not if you it's not

but you just the time that it's to respond to I understand at

how point it it's devastating for you I would be

not with that it's probably because I think with what you

have that you have been I don't that's the

the pain of prison that had been the rough? No. It would I'd have accepted a pen in a week

or two. The the person that you created was prepared and capable to find out

but he was not to francher the line to pass someone that I had had been

he had been he had had been yeah yeah on but if it's arrived

you'd when I had to when I was to be a man to the guy I thought

okay, I I'd say what I'd have to and the result I'd deal with you know but again before that before

to do this thing, it was easily rationalized and I was like my line of Trump and the guy

he had a reason and he'd he merited what he had said, it's we're saying, we're convinced

easily we're we're saying yeah, there's not there's not there's not there's

man, uh, yeah yeah but, So, sincerely, I mean, I adore all our conversation that we're at but just, I think

I don't know why I'm asking this question. Like I said, they're not prepared my questions. It's all about with what I was. I have, I don't know, I had the sentiment that I'd have to ask this question, and I'm content to have posed, because I think that it transmitting by the regard

that you've had been in this silence that, of reflection, I've seen your brain, ding, ding, ding. I'm an impression that there's There's been a lot of images that are arrived in your head and to

remember. But I think it depends well the the font that you have, and you know,

23 years of pain you're in a crisis of panique, he tormonde two weeks of

psychologue, you're with some tools to get your attacks of panic? Yeah.

Medicamant? Yeah, but I don't know that's not really really really the first

of panic that I've refated and I had refated. I had some to get them to get them

to get in there's a just to rest at a quote and I'm talking about the first the first time

it's long, it's the first after it's a half hour and I'm it's all it's just it's all

it's been it's in 2016 that's in 2016 that I'm in that's so and so

and I've I've had a conjoin I'm I'm I'm

I was going to go up to pen. I was out with a girl, Isabelle. She had had been in the cancer while I was in front of the end. He had to be the stomach complete. I'd like a lot more. I was out of course.

You know, well, you know, well, on my meditia of incarceration, I've seen what we're unique. It's got to have a chance out.

If you're remount, you finish to rest of your sentence. I'm out of, I'd restate like two, an incoque to do you have just

this other unique there. I'm remonted for a bit of conditions. I don't know what's what, it's a nisery. And then, and I'm finished my sentence. But I'm sorry with

Sylvain at this moment when I was out, when I was out of my complete. You know, I'm going to do a difficulty today. I'm someone diperative, I'm an intense in life, there's

there's some limits that I know not. You know, I'm I'm, you know, I'm I just I mean, I'd enter a lot of

people in my intensity, sometimes can be to be afraid to find out of people.

And at the intensity that I had, I'd I'd had too for her

and it had finished by putting to make to make a of a couple and for the time

we'd be, but I'm too, but I'm thinking, I'd have done

to get to be a lot a lot. Amore an amoe etuffant? Well,

you you like, you love but your sarah so hard that you finish by the no, no, not in the sense because I'm not, I'm not, not in the same.

No, no, no, but it's just when you're, it's just that, when you're, yeah, it's a malade, and I wanted, and I wanted to, it's so much, that's

it's not, that's never, it's been to the infirmier, I was just put on a job. Okay. I'd even be even a bit with, I'd remand the chame

on the other side, and I'd re-combed, there had, there was, there'd be depot of morphine everywhere in the house, someone that's served

but I'm in a minute I'm trying to get my stress I'm afraid just a night

and I'm part of the reshut at a moment of my separation with Isabelle it's

a minute my my mother in my time and I'm I'm

all to my family they're to I'm just my friend

Maxime who I'm just my friend my pen my peer descent

in dope I'm not at 5 and 700 Piers of course Yeah But I had the time I wanted to pay By the person

So I'd want to pay I'd like to qualify I'd like I'd I'd dope I'd do for For my click For our Rone Our Clique of Rone

That's Fack, the guy in the end of course To get rid of sorts For power But I'd rationalize Amher Faire It's a guy It's a guy that's a

It's a guy who goes We'll go We're going to see We're going We're going to say In more, when there's a doubt to implicate that you're a need,

because now it's not, that's a I'm a I'm going to do you've got to do you feel like to say the

no, but you said I had said, I had read the bank I said, I didn't I'd say,

I'd be able to qualify to qualify, but yeah, I'd never to say that, even at a

moment but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know,

I've made, no, no, I've written a letter to say, that, saying,

that I'd return not to find that I'm going to say, you know, five, six hundred pounds in the neck

you can't get in this little little letter as well, you can paranoia for bad to do that and then

after that's no, but when you're going to be to get back that's a barrenant that's not clear that's not

clear, you know, I'm not clear I'm not clear so, you know, this letter but the phone is still the phone is

still there no, no, there's a limit, I'm not I'm not I'm ready to I'm

dealing with really with very with a criminal criminalized it's rationalizedable in my head,

you know, even if when I don't know the limit the misery in the mirror but it's

rationalizedable it's a guy of the middle, you know, he's passed on this like

someone who's like a person, he said, if he thinks of the contrary,

it's a calf. But, that, it's so. So, so if you're that's rationalized

but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, and I had promised

I'm a lot of I've made a lot my blonde was a garage I was finished my sentence

I was made a minute I was during this period that you're still if you have made

you've got not the condition to respect you? No, no no, but I don't know that no

that's not because you're you've done Your time full, you have no probation, no condition, you've got to

have to have done to get in a bar and you putt in a face, that's what I'm doing, that's that's a lot of

a minute that's it's not going to be it's not a foeval it's not to be able to get a to be able to

so that's that I'm afraid to do it so there's not there's not no victim not, not the victim

out of the car she has me she has a she's the other garrant that's that's not

I was going to say like three hours to play the design on the bar of the garage I saw that the camera would have not. And then the other gerent had set. My blonde was always, I was going to. My telephone was tomorrow. I was not sure. When he was out, I said,

the mool depot. I said, I said, the man, he said to his truck because he cried, who he came to, for me, I just got a cuto. I said, I approached not. And I'm parked in San Beldo. I'm parted. I mean, I'm

I did the process that's a job it's not the biggest job, it's not the most of the job and he's not able to do that. It's not able to do. It's for you with all that, what you're talking,

it's this boot that that that is the most rough for you. Because it's not a criminal, because it's not, and because you've made a promise that you've not been able to have. I'm going to say, and I'm going to say, because I said, I'll always have a part to have a lot of the road in the field.

And I'm just, I'm just curiously, it's me that I'm going to change the troterole. And the coroner has just responded to my advocate, Ha-ha, you don't know the remorse. You said that's the only response of the Coral. But I'm I'm all right, I feel like that.

You know if she has read, you know what she has made, but you know she'll see? Yeah. You're an impression that's been part

of one of the most gross obstacles of your life. One of the most, you know, I'm glad to, you know, I'm talking, who has, who has made

a slice of 20, three years of pen. On this sentence that I'll have done I'm in seven

years. But, you know, you understand that's just it's just, it's what

I'm, you know, because to understand that's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, that's, the project that, man, the reinsertion, the rehabilitation,

not because to prison, isn't, not because it's, that's, you're a bad,

you're a, you're a , you're I never, you know, me you know, that's a reason because I'm talking about

with my friend with my friend there's a old who's I'm able to be able to be able to to be able to

be able to someone, you know, you know, you know, that's, you want to, you know, there are

the principles, it's the principles of the middle, but who I'm appellate to be the principle of

the milieu that today I'm gonna I'm gonna because it's not my my milieu. I've got into the conditions.

But you've got into the conditions. But you've got, you know, I've got to put it in seven-year-seven. How? You know, I mean, it's because you've got to be able to the line? No, it's not because... I didn't have to put it to getaway to prepare. I mean, it's not... Because it was your blonde who'd give a sack, and...

When I'm going to part, I'm going to put to party, I'm in a vehicle, you see. And when I'm going to part, I'd have crochet the veloat after the chard of the school, and the monsieur, it's at the foot, it's on the rear of the rear. I was not able to the vehicle to march to the I'd know if I was to get in

when I'm panicking, I'm in panicking at a place to go and then there's someone who went to

the police taguey. For that I've made the process that, uh... Because you

you've not had been an act violent in the sense you've not piqued person that,

you've not you've not done, you've not done, you've not not had not the depo finally?

No, but the the doss just to have just to have a cuto to say to me

it's, it's already if it's been your first offense, you'd have not been in my own,

I've been five years for sure I've had two years for the possession of drugs Oh,

you've had a dose of five and three-in-mere contoured. I'm a decan-controlled until in

2030. It's what? To return in a in-drawn? When I came to the center

regional at a reception, honestly, before I this time, there's passing that's that.

I had two, like two apartments, my apartment at my apartment, like a gang-gain, because our clique, it would be able to do with parted the morning, and, and, well, in my apartment, it's a few weeks ago, they had a cord of crochet. I was not able. I was illy to my family. I was just a man, madame, I'm not bad.

I'm not. When I got up in a t'clock, to stay, uh, to rent, there, uh, these days are coming, fast. And a psychologist you're in the reception, she had to be in a wing. She went me to buy down in a wing,

she'll be able to the guard. She said, she'll, let's go, she was, she was, she was going to me charge. I said, she was going to me a cord. She said, she said, she said, she said, she was with, you, she and have one? Yeah. And she, she said, she said, you know, you have two choices, you pass at Lack, or you

do you say, okay, I said, okay, she said, okay, she'll, you're, you're , you're still, you're the name? No, I'm in the emotions Okay, but Hey, if you're You're talking about Oh, she'll know

Bravo, bravo Carlis, bravo She made She's probably I'm a woman But I'm not I'm not a name But I'm an ancient

Agents of Liberation Auditiannale That's probably Sheckxenna today She has crean to me And she had She had been

She'd be very She'd be She'd be able To put me To put me My agent in And down And out

And there's There's not a lot like that. I'd not more but she'll be not much

a lot of people that's supposed to be able to be yeah, you know, yeah,

but you detect when some of the good, you know, I've always I've always I've always

I've been, they're very, she's the ancient of the gang when you know, when she got to

the few bombs and she had been she came in this milieu that she wanted and she

she comes to be to be gouted by the and she'll get to become it's right, but the the firm that I'm

presentment, they're not a professional professional. She was she and she and she's, she's always

in Laird, but you're not but that's that, I've talked a little. You're,

we're in your sentence to set in, she, she's a lot, she's, you have two choice,

you pass a lac or you, or you do something. I'm, okay, I, to consume.

I was because he would me to be in maximum. Elle, and other

and the COVID had been the COVID had a fact that they had been in the economy,

I was blocked by people. They were not, they don't know, they're

they're they're they're there, and there's many people because they're with the

new sector, I'm blacked like everywhere and the sector I can't because

Mr. McGin it invest the time and I had blacked to be

They're also in my voyeur province. And then I'm going to see, if you choose between Melvin or Collinsby, I said, I mean, I don't know. Well, but I'm going to choose and I'm going to go.

So, I have chosen Maliven. There's a woman who's why you're in an establishment? I said, well, I'm not, but he said, but he said, you know, but he says, I don't know if you're not

to go to the seat. So you're depending on the center in the reception with me, you can't be transferred. The COVID had to arrive. It's because if there's someone who regards your dossier,

detenue? Personne to ever, no, that's sure. And they've finished by December by December

Mcottamidium. He'd envoyer to Wandsville. Coensville, I came to have to have a 10-month

reception. I've used to go to the Impaud. It's the unit, you're in a unit

nine? Yeah, you can do you do do you do do your epistle, and you

have totally my sentence to complete in POT. I've had no without with the plombia

with the plombia there I was with the plumbia, I'm at least. I love the plumbria. It's a bit a real life, so you're to prepare a new life more, you know,

you know, I'm a little bit more of responsibility. You know, I'm just when you're in there, you're an infant of five years. We're doing, what, to do you,

we're doing, you're not, you're not going to, you're not prepared in the life, you know, there's chaff, you go to get at

at the episserie, you, you know, I'll just get to do you're to do you're to do you know, or maybe,

you know, you're trying to to have been in a name of the question of choice, but I think that the reception at this moment, I think it's like, I think it's like, it's the good choice. Yeah. I mean, when I said to me on

out, I'd say to me on out, you'd have the choice. It's all. So, I said, so. The personage that, the person who is, that's out of the business. Oh, I've had a liberation auditional.

He's, you know, he's not, you've never seen, at Coantville. No, my sentence is complete in the pod. I've worked all right I was there with the plumbier. I've got to stop. I've got to stop.

It's been tough, sometimes. It's not my time. The top of yule, that you've had to have parked. No, no. It's not my time I was comforting a certain affair

that the world me won't even like I was before. So, your reputation to precede? Yeah, so.

So, if I had to face to a certain situation on a guy I knew I'd know a lot, who you talk about six minutes

who thinks that you're a delator. So he has thought I'm a and it's, so it really to go away, but I've been sure and he said,

and he said, he said, you know, they're going to be the micro, the camera, they're not transferred out of the hour.

Okay, they were saying, he was in a group, so, so I've had made my time in the pod.

I'm, my agent that's called Melanie, I'm, she's a good person, she was like,

she was in, she had been recommended for a liberation conditional. It's not easy to believe in

it's a very very to be very to get a car, you've got to get to get to get in

the impot to do you know, I'm recommended, I'm going to say, no, we're not to create

that, they said, they said, that's a car they're and they're refused.

I'm I'm going to last six more than my two-year, he had had been to be able

to a minute. I'm done it. I'm going to my own transition. That's that's

December 2023. December, 22, Not to jell it in in the pods with some it's more

easier? He's not my time, the dome don't know the guy who come to be to put them

in my in my pox. I don't want to I don't want. I don't know. I don't know. It's just it's hard to

be easy. In the road, they didn't get to crissed the adopt in the office. It's all right. But,

but, but, at the time, no. It's that, you know, I'm able to be able to

get to get in the because it will be easy to to have, You know, and I'm going to say, I started in December 2003.

I started to have worked in a service, signator, also. It's the engaged by a woman that's willing to at your mission. Ah, yeah?

Yeah, I've been I think it's not to go. We're in turn 52 per year and then I've received 50 messages per a week

so that's sure that a minute there's a try that you have to make, I'm trying for a company of excavation

to be engaged as a signator also, you know, my name today, I'm going to you say that,

but it's, it's a job that's, yeah, and then, and he's, and a chapeau to do that,

and I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, there's, there's,

there are, there's got to, because he, there's a parko, there, a pattern, there,

but, you, but the guys like you who have decided to reprint in the hand, it's sometimes,

you know, to put in the chance to get a present to get a chance, my own to be on

there. But, it's so, I'm, I'm doing, I'm in a transition, you all

well, he'd come back to me to give a day in an apartment

supervised. I'm at half transition, half the apartment supervised, my mother

got been malade. Um, is that you were very, um, uh,

uh, that, I had had my I was sure that I said my agent it's a few, nine months I was out so he made

he made a break but they were resered the vissed. You said your second piece test that you had

not been positive and then in the end me said if it's not your consumption I'm not to say

I've got a false consummation but I'm I'm saying I'm sure I reshute precisely

where he has felt the decision of my ma'er but it's because he's made to return

to the portage so I'm So, yeah, he'd have to remonted, you've had to go to... I was going to... I've had four months at Chambot, and, well, it's for pretty four months, and I'm sure sure that's all the portage. So, but I was saying, when my mom had deced,

as I said to the other, I was arrived at Bordeaux, my mom had been dead in my bra. In your bra, yeah? Not in my... But, in my... But I'm present. He tombeenotet, directly,

after, when you're entering in a-m-d-transition? Yeah, but the police had to ask, why, I'd just wonder, I, I didn't know. And when I was in Bordeaux, I'd try to see why, he'll have no reason to write. I don't know if I'm going to because I part to the O'Pen

he said, we've got to put it in classement, so it's a cellul of 24 on 24. I don't know if it's a lot of 5 years. I was not there. It's been the moment the time of my life, I think. I've had a face in the wrist, I've got to eat, I'm not pissed,

I'm not bough. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not there. I didn't, I'm not. I don't know. I was going to, I was not myself. After, after, I don't know how many things, they've been in a wing, normal. There, I've consumed. But I'm going to, I've fume, I'm not, I'm fume,

I'm not, I like, I'm not the popular, I've never, but I, it's, you know, I've passed a couple of days to fume, to go back, back, right? I think my head had to have been in a break, I was a little. I'm on

Archambeau and I'm at Portage. Portage me my fucking handy. You know,

he'd remand-toche with all the tools that I had already and then sometimes

to make a little of these tools and get to do you get to more

than that honestly when I'm when I'm when I when I'm when I therapy, he would like

to avoid a house of transition because it's easy to know if they're in a

matter of the he'd really think he really had really a lot of all the staff and all the staff

that's a six or six years he's been made a big cush on the

three three three years of the mard that you had made

that you and when uh when I when I was when I was when I'm

when I'm Transition. There's an apartment supervised to Portage in Montreal. Okay. He wanted

me to get me over. But there's like that I'm like that I'm at a moment there. At the time,

they said, there's a question to have been in a transition. And she had seen impique.

I've really to dole to my program. That's not made for the other that's for you.

Yeah, it's not been easy. It's not it's not easy the partage but it but it

is, but when I when I came to I arrived at the boot, she said, I mean, I went with the papers, I said, yeah, she said,

yeah, she recommended for my house in the apartment of portage. The commissaries, they've even not met with the case, they'll accept it. So, the time that

it's fast, the time that I had an apartment of lib, I'm rest of, I'm going to be there back. At the end, I was out of course,

I did the travel on the terrain, just for me vitally of the transition, to me make the more of chance on my bar

possible. you know, I'm doing it's a lot of support of the deportage. You're still in today? Yeah. I have two years. We have a good cartier. We pay not share. We have some lay on the place.

We have some groups on place. The group postcule, one day, per semen. Do you know, I'm not a good meeting. You're not going to be a great. Everyone, everyone who's everyone who's, right? Yeah, I mean, there's, what we're doing. What we do, there, is their meeting. Yeah.

At all the day, there's a new month, it's their meeting. But, you know, there's not a I don't know of 10, 15, 20 guys or 5, 20 guys, or field of the portage, I've got to watch, a little bit more, so, so, when I get a little down, there, there's always, there's always, and there's a lot of person, you know,

so, so, we're all the gang who supports, who's entrail, and a guy who's not, and someone who's not, they're not, to help us help. Your Depart, you're doing? You're doing? Well, good, I'm still, I'm still I'm still

I'm still I'm sorry I'm not there a guy that's quite 30 years two years it's not long

No but honestly I think I'm sure I don't know I'm sure I'm doing I've got to keep my

head during these years I I've done I've made some of panic but you know

like you I've had could have been maybe a monster but I don't know

maybe because I don't know. Maybe the contact I've got with my regular all the time. There's something that's something that's... But, you know,

there's, I don't know if the craving sometimes he's still there, the envy is still there sometimes, yeah. No. Not there. But I'm...

Well, but I'm perfect. But I'd be sincerely, I'd be sincerely, but, you know, you know, you'd be a second conjoint of your mother who's been

your father, and when your mother had deced, it's a bit, it's not, You're going to put in front but you're still in young,

there's a lot, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, yeah, yeah, my father, my father is a malade,

he's an ideal three times for the same, I'm going to presentment. Bravo. I'm, and they're in

good state? It's a summer, I'm perfect, man. I've been to sit down to the feet of

feet, I'm not I'm not I'm in cent to the same, I'm in my car, I'm in point zero one

or when there has a chance of the chance of being I don't, I don't, I'm going to I'll take.

It's just just not if he can receive if he's in not able to get to be able to question. No,

but yes. No, but in the sense if you're not to ask you, when you're not a question, when you're not

to do you do it to do do it's someone that's someone that's someone that's, my mom part of the

could say they're still there's still that's still that's someone that's important in my life is someone

that's someone I'm in my building, I have no consequence to do that. in a part that my pressure

up a little. It's not a lot of nothing to do you know. But you know, you know, it's just it's not true

and even if it's you know, you'll say, you know, you'll be living that day that's a day that's not,

you know, I'm not, I hope that's for me that's for me that's you know, I think,

is, is, you, do, stress, you, or you're more you're not

you're more, you know, my name Pamela who is really that for me, I'm sure, I'm a,

I'm a name his name. When I was when I was talking about in 2016, 17, my name, because she had had a year ago past, and they're in her mind, and she goes

there, I don't know that I'm going to say, I'm going to, I think I've got to put up in her life. You know, that you're talking, the thing of, the discrimination? No. No, okay, I think that's, it's, Karen. Okay. And Karen, Karen, and her,

and her, she's married, you know, a month and a minute. Okay. So, they're already had some time, but I've got, you've already they're going to go to them to get them to hire people who have put their own in mind and they function today and they're saying they're saying they're like they're saying

sometimes, especially if they're making it at the time that's me that's me that's all right there, there are many of the names who are quite in bruce now that I've seen a little equip there's been more

I'd be curious to hear to hear about. So it's someone who's going to get to Pamela and I see that I know that's not the role in my life

Pamela will be there you know, that I never to be like me like that these children I love I love I'm not

not going to get to be sure and when I'm going to see like that it's a few I'm ennue you know

that's a regret to not to have to have a excuse it's been he's not too too

time effectively we're able to we're able to we're able to do that we're able to

even not can't do that even in 20th and I'm wasn't able to But I hope I don't have one I don't know if he'll be there for him.

It's something in which you'd aspire, that'd like that'd like that'd like, I'd like that. I'd like, sirment. It's not made, but, well. No, no, because, I, you know, the most of the auditors, I'm saying, that's, that I can't have an infant, I've adopted, these children with ADPJ.

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If you talk to a lot You talk to At least, you You know, You can transmit, I think, the bon

that you're in you know, because if there's a affair that's, malgrary that's what you did,

and all of what you've done, I don't, I don't that you have the more long of your

hair, or the long to the long than the mine, but I'm, I guess, I'm just,

I'm just, I'm just, I didn't have been like you I'd rather I'd like You'd say What did what You do?

Off A be be A be able to We'll plugger Because it's Drogue You'd say Because I'd

You'd say I'd say I'd say I'd try to finish But I'd have to find a new job And we We've got to find A job

So an employer That'd give There's a chance To get a guy Like you He'd beirate You're the I'm the sole

I'm the same In the team That's There's been have you've been not as well, I mean, I said, uh... Not as you know, I think they're

doing they're doing some of the most of the moment. I can't say to what I'm saying to the way to do, it's what the name of the company? Pro concept

excavation. Pro concept excavation. It's the logo that you're in head, yeah. How's the name what you know,

you know what? I don't know what? I don't know the name the name of the company. Well, you'll be demand and then we'll copra it's what

his name Jonathan Jonathan thumbs up man you're going to let's say to have

given a chance to a guy with this parko that and say I will he will he will he

sure that it's a guy who he'll never he said he's he's

he's he's not in the sense it's not a boss that he he's not

an boss he's good he is good he he's really all the all the all the

all The first affair is the quality to to the client that's that he comes to

get to be sure that we're not going to for the client really but he he brings

some of the guy and I'm more than I'm a job that's a job that

I'm quite payed but you're going to be able probably better

probably better probably better it's a job that I that I

do that I'm that I'm that I'm I'm I'm sure I'm If I'm not

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I'm trying to I'm going to I'm trying to I'm too Brulis You know But for the I'm really

I'm really I'm sure You know there's a construction That's plenty bandit, plenty of

He's really He's really not that And he He accepts to me my chance And I'm

I'm considered a chance sure. I'm sure. Well, Bravo to this company that.

Bravo to man, Bravo. Bravo, to probably to assume for me for me,

it's the first thing, it's something something of important. And, and be able to

be able to, to see, when we're the, the, you know, the,

the batine, the botin, the botin, you know, and, you're, I feel not the impression

that in a I'm trying it's coming to see, it's not a blonde to do you know,

I'm sure, I'm sure, I think, the people who come in here, the time when they're saying, but I'm

a real feeling that I'd not think, in a man, that's he had been up on, and it's,

and I'm not to say, I'm not doing that to everyone that's, you know, not that's not,

no, no, but you're there, there's something that me he said that there's had been

there's there are there are there are a moment where is I've seen a guy

who is that's going to and Christ he has not to get to turn man.

Nelson sincerely thank thank thank very thank very

very really of this parko that it's a bit we've

not had not had a a a view of the old

with this message And it's the essence of this podcast You're the essence of this podcast You're the reason And I want to show you know I want to show you know what I'm

It's what we've done It's not to define not Just at the end of our own I'll finish And to swatting Aste, there's a baby man Let's go There's a woman in the decor?

No We're going to start When we're trying to find a woman When you've got to put If you're just twigate your metro, I don't want to I don't know if you've got to do with. When you're not talking to the guy, not that I'm not the talk with the man, but I think I'll talk to me too,

as I'm talking to my chum of the guy. Okay, yeah. But it's going to be. I'm not going to. I mean, I'm not going to be. You're concerned on you? I'm concerned on my life, to be stabilize, me reinforce. But as if I, maybe I've found my partner,

it's the moment. And it's the best that will be the good. person, you're still your wife and your mistress Yeah

I'm sorry I'm sorry to be a kid I'm sorry to be able to be able to be able to be able to be

I'm sorry but I'm sorry to be able to deal with everything what's in your life I think

you're fucking back on track I think you're been anchored and you know you know you let's do

you let's do yourself at several times it's the choice that we're in to do you

know, man the old you're going to be in five years, it's going to do you know your choice

your choice my job yeah exactly I hope really that you have appreciated

this podcast that the other that I have been to be on

at the I'm at a Thank you. Thank you.