Au Parloir - Épisode #123 - Pierre Bergeron

Episode Date: January 4, 2026

Dans cet épisode, je reçois Pierre Bergeron, entré dans la police un peu par hasard en 1970, il devient rapidement enquêteur en crimes sexuels, puis rejoint l’escouade Carcajou, une unité enti��rement dédiée au crime organisé.On revient ensemble sur :• L’opération Printemps 2001• Les coulisses du métier d'enquêteur• Son parcours d’auteur, entre Né pour enquêter et plusieurs romans policiers Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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the squad Carcajou, it's at what's what's what's called the ex-squade regional

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motor rock machine Elz Angels Bendidos, what's that's made to the

famous Operation in 2001. So he was there, he was at the heart

of all of that, a life of a life of a life of a work aolic

really. And it even when it's 21 years that Retreat

today, he is not capable to and he's a doctor and he's the driver,

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to that. Because I'm the impression, because I'm a little your part of your past,

you can to be in to make a minute to what I'm saying, but I'm when you

get to be quite, when you get in when you run in some kind of, sometimes

I'm an impression that the line between the criminal and the police

is, it's not I'm don't, you know, I'm in the sense that,

because you have to tell you that you have their mentality to mann to make them to

have the But you're you have the rules to respect to more. And you're a little

voice in the entire that's that's impede to get to get to the line

and it's not there the line but you know the way not you know you know

you know you're you're you're in you're in there you know but it's

right to say that the criminals and the police the people

who like who am that who are who are proche-parent. It's really prox-parate.

I've many of my friends who have been in prison. The guys with who I have been in

the guy with who I'm in the college for different reasons, but it was people in who I'd

very well, but I would be more than with those who were not the bandies,

you know, the problem, I'd talk about a lot on camera, and it's an episode

that the people have seen who I'm doing, in his end of adolescence,

like, create a club of motor, battoy and alcohol and that, and he's finished, Agendault, one of the major agent double, and one of,

the formator of all the agendable. So, you know, it's that's, you know, it's often, it's, it's, so I'm in my

first question. Yeah. You know, where you kind of carthew, and all of that, and all right, and we,

know, I'm sure of at Longueueue, at the St. John, at the table of St.E., and my father, and my father,

he's a man, he had been a leg, a clod, a coup. The guy, I don't know to be it, I'm out of year

or jewned but... 3945. Okay, so the second World War Worldial. Our good

amy the little moustache, yeah, it's so. It's ironic when I'm saying a good friend.

And then, my father had had due to reprint the life civil to be not that

he'd be able to do it, but he's been able to do it and my mother,

and my mother had to have done in a vintment. And I'm a son She's dead deaded now, the heart, an malady of a cure,

while she was in Vancouver. She's a little bit of so. She's a little bit of a year. And I was going to gore and the school, but the school, it's not what I liked a lot of,

you know, it's all right to finish my secondaire, and the minute I've had a chance I'm out of the house,

I've got to in the Army Canadian. A bit can't see the trace of your father? Yeah, but you

didn't, but the idea is to decolling to the mason because you have not you know there's a job

well I'm not I know but I'm doubt of your age so I'm recule in

an epoch per of the war it's a lack of a generation often that's a generation,

but the problems, no, no, no, no, it's so, It's good for the febble for the other. And, you know, and then, you know, and so, you know, I've got to understand when I've got these problems,

of depression or all that, at all that, to do you know, why there were so many, you know, in the years 50, 60, and the men, it's, it's a lot, it wasn't, it, it could not, it, it could, it, it could not, it could not, talk of panic, but you put a couple of beers, that's, you know, you're talking about. You seem to you, it, so much.

No, but it's so, man, and it's, and it's, and it's a bit, Belle, it's a bit of a habit of... My, that's... And my father, it's a blest of him, he had been the 24thousand. So, he wasn't at the house on part of time?

Well, no, no, at the time, he was... But, no, so, so, so, so, so it's not to be... You know, I'm...

So, it's... So, it's already a Newel who... And the other New Year... And the other... ...the other New York, that's... Because he rapped,

just... Well, it's for sure, that's for that I'm in 18-in-in-a-old... ...in the army, and I... I did the research in communication. In other words, I intercepted

I intercepted the communication Russian in Morse. It's at that in the time. There were not in the Internet. No, no, no, no, no. How do you know, how you say,

you're saying, you're not going to say, you're not going to say in terms. Like, the test auditive, it's the same test that you pass

for the sonar. Okay. So, like, when you decide, after that, you'll go to in the army, you want to go in the aviation or you'll

go to go to the Marines, they're going to they're going to be in the sea of course. But if you're not to go to the air, I'm not going to go to la, I'm nothe like a roche. So, no, I'm going to go back the aviation,

and then as it's an aviation, well, they were going to have gone to New York, where's the same. Is it something still something still?

No. I'm just a letter the F. Foxtruck. It's Didi Dot it So you're three three little points

and a long You know There's a Yeah, you know There's always I'm sorry You don't know Not even

To say it's I'm sure They're going to They're going to Me too I'm sorry You're not But at all

At this time Yeah, You know It's right You know When you're It's all right And it's

I'm not I've been It's probably It's probably For the After a year At least To be

Malale of the problems cardiac, you also. But, I'll just to pose a question that's sure that everyone will have you... Attraped

these messages Russian, that's the way, the way, you're saying, you're saying, the old ductilo, you know,

the frapped, the same that's on the same time, he rests point in old, you're in there, you're in

there, you're in too, and you're doing, sorry for the people, that's all right, no, no, that,

and, then, what you're you know a gang on the other they're the other it's the decode yeah, because it's

all right you know that's a packet letter, there's a lot of any sort of any sort of the letters,

they're saying, they're doing so the decodeer and the decodeer and they're what I've heard and you know to have

any time, yeah, thank you to me, we're having a submarine that's on sit there,

sit there, sit there and sit there and sit there and sit there that, I'm just so, I'd

deteste that so, hey, But, especially a guy who had been in the action after, so I'm doubt that you're... Yes, you wanted to... Yeah, but a guy who wanted to do the action a little in his life, too.

Yeah, but I'd love to be put in a bureau. You know, we're doing, talk, to-to-to-to-to-to-to, you know? Hey, good. It's a good. And then, you said that your father had fallen mad? Yeah, my father had fallen in fact, that, in cause of that, I'm out of course. And I'm coming to longueil, we're at longueil in this time,

And then, and then my intention to be there to be a united aircraft at Longuey, it's a motor of avion. Okay. I wanted to do, I wanted to do, I'd say, I'd have had some chance that you'd engage. One of my chum's had you've got to engage

there, and he was zero experience. He's in the army, you know, too. I've tried to work in Oceania long time, and it's all right, you'd say, you'd be 17-year, you'd be like, hey, you'd search a job, and, and it's a man that's engaged, before, OCEA.

I'm sorry, they're in the police. Seriously, yeah? You're really. Really? Yeah. I'm going to do you, there's a little credit to post

my CV. And then, it's in plain winter. And then it it was a cold. He'd not fro,

he'd be free. And I was to get to the United Aircraft, I'd marched maybe the equivalent to me

to make a to go to and be able to take a toast and me to get to I'm even not even

not much in my purse in my time, it's all that it's all that I saw it

there, I saw you there, And then they'd revented not. And there were two, there were another who's going to get in, okay, okay, I'm going to say to that. It's a bureau of placement. So, I thought, I'd end up at the door of the port.

There's a guy who, a guy who has to me lach. Ah, monsieur, come here, come here. Oh, no, no, no, it's correct, it's correct. And I said, do, do you do a job? I can't try to try and I'll be there. No, no, no, I've been to apply. So, they'll be there. Finally, they've never called.

So, so, I'm going to see, what I said, I said, I said, I'm going to do, I'll have to do, we'll have to do, We'll go to look at what to try a job, and then if you're trying to do you tell me, then you tell you, what? We're in general, 10. 70. Exactly, 70. And then I go to see you.

And when I go to home, my mom, she's, my mom, she said, there's a a man who says, there's a man who says, he wants to be able to put it for you? Oh, yeah, who is the guy of the bureau of placement? She said, he wants to talk. Okay. So, she has, you go to go, for example. It's not a problem. I said, if you're so interested in,

to be interested in the police of St. Lambert. You say, what, repartiteur? If you put a call, give you a show of police, and you, it's so, why not? We'll try that for the fun. You're going to be able to.

And, yeah. And then, I used to that. I'd like that. Traveled at night, and the night, I'd work at night. I, my, chum, Saturday, I'd say,

all the time? I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd rather. And at all right? At that time, you're, It's the debut 20 years. It's 20 years. It's all right.

It's 20 years. Hello, I'm in direct to Moe Studio. And I'm a few seconds to you talk to you have a little

time to be in we have two, three, three, million visioned by episode and he was there, and sincerely if he had

not been there, I don't even if this project that exists again, because they have really helped me

financially at the beginning to and I'm to hear that that I'm compare my prime,

and there's many people of people an affid assurance, it's what? In privy, the people are making sure. So, I'm trying to tell you to explain it as well. So, compare my prime. He's specialise in insurance-vi. So, so are the

conciergey-in-assurance-vi who are, for use the O'Conn't Cough refused. It's their speciality, no-kone-ca-refused. Because when you're at an certain age as a age, if you're

a dossier criminal, and if you have a disease like a cancer, it's extremely hard, to, wow, it's almost impossible to have an assurance of their so they're

they're going to have to have to be in if you're not sure you're not sure that you're not to be able

contact them they, they're going to have an assurance of the it's important for not

to be there when you're there. Comparate my premium. So, that's sure I like my

chum, I'll enter up to work, I'm trying, until he arrives the allegement of Pierre Laporte.

Minist, Pierre Lapporte. Yes, that's the Minister of the time, federal.

Yeah, it's about FLQ and all that. Yeah, it's all it's all it's all

the time. The film October, if you know, you know, you know, this story,

film of Pierre Faldow, October, it would be a film Quebecoe, very important for the history of

that, a part of the other operator and I were the two who had the plus of

experience, so, so the director in a new there's a part of to the time,

You have no convoyed, this guy, and they've got to have to work 12 hours per day. You're the more year, you're you're working to work to 8 to 8. And then, you're the more young, you're doing to 8 to 8 the morning. It's a reglae. And other operators will be on assistance to you other, but it's you've got all the, all of that. View that I'd have the chance to see the inquiretors of the Southwark of the Quebec, the Army Canadian, you've had the espion.

even for the time that's in fact, the time, the police of St. Lambert, even the GRC were there, there were in the dossier,

but then after that, I'd make a lot, there was a interview, there was, he'd be a report after that to docketo, and then I'm

an d'A., with a bull that turned, two fracas hey, hey, hey, it's a something. The police

of St. Lembert, there, plus the budget than the Army Canadian. He, you know.

So, so, with that, that it would have been a good bit of time. And finally, what they've done, they're going to be in a meeting with us other, and I was listening to,

because they had a lot more than they said, they were more than what he said, you know, there's great lines, and there's, but if you're going to be going to be able to

that's ever, that would ever be able to be in a cell of meeting with us, all that, you know, but it's, other epoch, other meurs,

what we're saying, but it's, but it's, but it's also that I've done a lot of press for the posts of radio or the posts of television

by telephone everywhere in the world it's called at this time even if it wasn't okay it's like it's like it's like a

voice of there was there was there was there's not there's there's so today there

there's there there's there there there's almost there there's almost people in relation with the media and the guy

when the telephone sonn't and the guy I'm from me BC I want to speak to someone. There, you pass the telephone. There's a journalist of ABC

that's talking about, hey, it's sovrave to. They're embarking in their chast, it would have just me. So, there's not a choice. It's the obligation, finally, who makes a sort of, you know,

to do you, that? So, so, so, I've done it, and I punged the gout, there, I punger the gau. Now, I'm gombed. There, I'm just to have arreter the Saturday

and the day, because my chum, go, go, go, let's see, you know, I'm going to ,

you know, I'm doing the good, of the encah, I've put the good of that, and then, and even at

a moment of a time, because at time, at St. Lambert, you had an sergeant in uniform,

and you had a sergeant who'd the team, the team, the same, all the same, and then,

there were the time, there had been, a man, he made, to be, he'd be, he'd be,

you'd like, do you, could, do you, to cover an appell, pardoned to that, they're not going to go to go ahead and

and say, you said, you said, they'd say, they'd say, and say, they'd say, we'll say,

we're going to get to be, and he said, a group of family. It's a problem. But,

there, the piqueue was a doubly enfonseed, there, that I'd that I'd want to

have, when I had a chance, a brassar engaged, I'd go, I'd say, there's a , you'd

three years, in the three-a-old, And then after that I was an hour I was an inquiry. So you've got punged the piqueur to say, okay,

it's, I'm going to ask you the question, is you the serve and protect or it's the trill that's we've got to

we'll see not too, the guy, will be it be anchored, will you be able to, you know,

that's that is that's that's the young of 20s that's a bit of the time to

tapote on, you know, is you because you're going to try, it's, you know,

it's to try, it's It has been to see how it function, but what I've always wanted,

is to get to get a to do people to do people that's not supposed to and he thinks

he's never to try to me. I'm sure that I'm. Being more fin-fino than he

thinks that that's not that's never. You know, I'm, I'm a question. I'm a

question that I'm not, I'm at that, and I'm an eye new, and in my books, in other that's what I'm talking.

It's more the part of challenge that's the challenge. You know, I'm not a lot of the challenge. You know, not be the kind of

it does not be the fun to play a game with you at the table because you you want, you want to go ahead. I'm just a

game, but I get. And you're per. Oh, no, I've seized a sick at a pinnard. It's

it's deplacent for the other, I know, but I made like like that. I'm not a gamer

and I'm a because I've had a question I'm in a friend, I'm a couple of people who he's a couple of

people who are he's lit the regulations and it's it's marked in the regular the regulation

the rule the regular number three. When you said I said I like a flash of, I said,

I said, I'll say say you say he said, um so Brossor you're

you're talking that's And then I'm there, justly, with the other operator who has to point in the Chiff to know. We're going to apply together, and we're

embouched all the two. So, like, because today, it's secondary, it's CEP, it's Colette. You can't even go to do with that, before you do with

that. But, I'm at the point, I'm part of my shift of the day, I finished at 4 hour, then you'd go to be in the night

I'd come and to Brossor, and then he'd I was trying to, I said, I was going to have a weapon at war, I'm at a civil. In fact, in the fact, at this epoch, she's engaged in the police, there was no difference.

So, you have a badge, you're a gun, you've got to do power, vote to beckxed, basically. Debrue, you know. You know, you know, you know? No, no.

You see a guy who brule his stop, you know, you know what, but at what? But what? You see what? You see. You know, that's broken your stop,

it's a cost 40-pies, but I'm not my second. I'll recule the years of, that's the point to be a lot

to be a lot more than a job but, not a point of point of no more. But, you know,

it's a start, the guys who have been to be in the other village, you know,

at longue on the same of the same offire, and Greenfield and everything, all, all,

all, those who are being been in the school at the school national of police,

and I'm I'm I'm going, Okay. But in September. But I've worked in two months.

Zero formation. I don't even not use my arm of fire. You know, I know, I know that's a lot of

but it's it's a peerant. You know, the concept? I mean, I'm 201 year, you know,

a shot of a gun, a badge I've been a bit of power and I become the part of the

planet, I know, I see what I know if you're in 20 years, that's if you're

to be in You know not have been emboached like a job of me, Chris, and I've passed. It's not that's not that. Look, and it's the same, and then the same, and then, and the other guy who is embouching at the same time of me, he had his arm at a few, and at a moment of a day, we have a practice, you know, finally, it's, it was, perhaps a month that we were there,

we haven't practiced encore. So, yeah, he's licibly, you have to be able to, there's not, there's not quite a grand thing. He had even not a firing pin after his, his chien. not firing pin the ball not not

there's a nothing to do it's not it's not the percutter he tap it not it's not

it so they've been he was he had been he had been he was he was made after that

after that we're all we're all yeah we're in our unit formation but it's

it's preliminal yeah yeah no no no no no no no it's not at the time you it's too

you're too it's a lot you're too You're a police. I've been that. You know, we're three

who are going to be embochee, three all at Nicolette in the same time. There's, the more

the gang, he pays 261 livres. The other he pays 245 and I my pants. And that

I've done in my poche I, I've used much of to me to be able to be

this carur no, no, no, no, and so it It will be with the time. You'll go ahead. And we'll go to get to Nicolette.

Before to party for Nicolette, it's really, there, you know, there's going to to be able to to serve ashrmante as a surmount

and then. Three months later, but that... No, before to party for Nicolette. Oh, we don't know.

We've been in the room to be in the room, you know, you know, so, you know, so, He was trying to do a changement of oil.

Then he regards that, the chief of police who is there with us who are with us who made us oh, he's there Marcelle, you're doing the

yeah, we're doing the we're doing, we're doing this, he came to the council of the village. So, that the mare

had the man had the man had the manned to have used to sign up the first, there he looked, it's the girl

that's the girl that's almost one hundred six and oh, Marcel, T'an- Gavis,

You're not aggras? It's not a great. There's a great. There's a question. You know, it's fred. You can't get all right. He said there's not stress. He said there's not stress.

So, after that, he passes the other. The other is at 250, 245 livres of a bit of pre. Hey, you, talk, me, he's a man, too pretty. But there, in the rear, the last, it's me, but the two grot, they're not, me caches.

When he'll be around, he, he'll be there not long, he, he'll be, we'll be, he'll be long a lot. So, like, I've been received by the mayor, but for the for finish

this story, that's not not really, you're not able to be able to do that. You're not to be able to do. The other,

it's an ancient goun, the hockey, ginon major, and he has not finished his career not plus, because eventually

he's flue that we'll have to have been for the pot of wine and all the stuff of the same, so I'm like,

I'm trying to to rest the sole of the three. He had to be able to say to my while he'd have been able to do that. Perfect. I mean, I remember. He's really. He's so that.

Yeah, it's so. That's so. You've said, you're saying three years in the street? Yeah. Three years. I've parted to the enquette. But, you know, at Brassard,

it's a point that I, I don't know what, I see, I don't know what's romew, I'm a guy, Le Mouin'in, my youngness, has been made in the Mondeau? In the Monde, Del Moines. In Rue. In Rue, De Doric. not far away the Oscar.

Okay, okay. It's a point that I've perfect. A point that I know. But, you know, in Brasson, we have an hotel of Piniar.

Yeah. It's there that Richard Blas all was. Yeah. And it's there that's been a massacre

to St. Valentin. That's, it's at work to work at to be there to be a time that you know, I'm

I'd say, I'm just per cent-140 living, all mollie, in uniform, when you're in a casket

in the time, there's a bagar in the there, there's a there's a Entry there in the world to see it, and you

did it like to gorecha some of the beer, sometimes wide, but often they were in there's still,

during the time that you had to have to regla that. So, you have not the place the more jojo to

go to be when we had to be a three years, not too of a problem, or you

have a couple that you've made, oof, okay, I'm I'm in maybe, it's sure

that you do that you do that with the recule, today, had not had you nothing to do that's a lot

in the sense that's, there's a lot of that's not that it's not that you're saying, but you know, there's a way

to be able to the person who'd be able to me talk, well, it would be maybe, but it's, finally,

it's the experience that you take, you know, what you know, what's the time, you know, of what I mean, you know,

that's a place, you, it's a million who's always really, you know, you know, Richard Blas, because you're

that you know, who, you, Monica, Lamitra, I mean, I received his son, you know, it's a

time of the time where we're not able to be to be able to be to be pogny, we're going to be to be able to and learn the

and you know, maybe we're going to be in the United with George Freud what's going to but, you know, the barred of

assage was perhaps a more used at this time, the matreck that's out of the matter of

yeah, well, my, my, my old, my, it's an ancient So if you swine a good tallosh.

It's not a lot. You know, I think he'll have Monty, paff, but it's in a moment time, you know, but it's not everyone who's not even to work in there, but there's other, it's the only method to do You've seen, you know?

Oh, yeah. You've got to get some of the and it's maybe not of these very avos, you just out of it, because he's going to get some of the clack, right? Yeah, and then you're an other mentality that makes out that there, they say

that's curious, it's curious, he's been to get your he's not, he'd be there's a mentality

like that, in the time. You know, to be it to beck, your all right, and

all that has changed, it's to be to be sure, but in the time, it's not

there's not problems with that, at 14th live, I'm, put not to come

to come in their You know, there's all right. I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd have been to finish my job. It's just, you know. But my petite test has made in sort that you develop other other things.

The blabler has been important in this moment. Yeah, and then, to seize your monde and all. At a moment of the time, I'd be in the time to chase the patrol, there had been a derby to come to our police at Greenfield Park that he'd have arretaed. And there's the guy, to guardassie, the old police, there'd be bardassie the chauffeur,

And the chauffeur, it's not the genre of guy who's left to be able to be able to be in a story long. The guy, he knew it, they've done it because he did the future of our own, and he's a chaudet. So, so, there was he passed at the balloon, he'd have to goreary, to, and out of South and then, and he'd come here after that. And then, I remark that the chauffeur, he'd the, he'd be, boughs. Because what's it? You, do you? In the accident, that? Oh, no, no, no.

It's a way? Not of your affairs. Okay. So, so, we'll talk to talk to another, and we're in a while at a moment a day, he started, he said, it's the first time

that I was arrested, and that's already to have already, you have already, it's going to be able to be at a hour, and it he'll have been to be arrested. Finally, this guy,

that's a veneer of club, and the boss, he me'll have counted, he's entraned every morning in a sack, and he had done these coups of Good. So, when he was

the guy, he would have to come in, Piff! He'd he'd say, he'd say, he'd say, he'd be in quite quite,

in all right, he'd be in a business, he'd be in to put in the cellul, but it's a time, because he has been a bit

to do, he'll have, he'd have done, and I said, there, you know, and you go to cross your car,

in the road, you've been to be a lot, and I'm gonna be able to, so they're gonna when you, he'll be around,

you go, the sergeant, not too long, you'd have you would have you revine? A way? Oh, yeah.

We embark in the auto on the traverse, we're at 500 feet. It's the zone

central, we're called, you can't come to the place, the sergeant, when we're to get to

the boot and be to be in the cellul? Ah, yeah, come, me,

get me to come in the cellul so, so, develop these attitudes and these things like that. The kind of guy that's if you're talking,

we're going to say, he's a affair, he's arrived at that. But if you're challenged, you know, you know, you'll be able to to be someone.

I'll be talking to someone. Well, to say. In plain that. In plain so. And he appreciated the way we,

you know, we've not norque, we've got to the creakure the treaty of criminal. So, so you've found the way the

way to put to be able, after three three-year-old, you envosced their and then it's important to say that

when you're in a voice inquiet because you, who, not too, not too, you can,

you can, you know, you can't you know, I'm talking with a prete, well, I'm adapted

my discourse to preate. After that, I'll talk with a prostitue and I'm adapted to my discourse also.

I want to the two me comprehend. I want not that they are obligured to join in the

to be a sensor, or to descend or to to me down, or to me want to be, that's what it's important, but the important, is that we're talking, and that's just a problem. At each person that you talk, you adjust your fashion, you know, a bit like, I'm saying, in the way of two and I say, I'd say, I'm saying, if I'm a man, I'm talking, I'm talking to the Prime Minister, I'm going to go, but, you know, that's just a joke. But, you know, we're just a joke. But, you know,

we're just, we're just, you know, the level of the person with the person with we're talking. There are, there are not able to to be just to be able to do you not that's like that like that, but there are a lot of policeers who are demurray in their patroly who are not capable of just to, you know, T'AGOTrip, and Samuel Bus and Jeanne Badge,

and there are a lot, I don't know if there's a lot, because it's been 21 years, I'm not, the minute that you sign your paper of redrette, it's finished, there, you're an elephant-blank, You're an state of Olympic that's served, but that's

raviourn't but that's a phrase that that's a podcast and I'm always I'm always to repeat. You know, in life,

there are these good guardians of prison and there's a more than you like, there's, like, there's a boy police, like,

there's sure that there's, I know, I mean, sometimes, it's just that's just that what I'm and,

and the fact that I'm that, you know, I've seen, two, twenty-two, 23, with an attitude,

You know, I, you know, it's... Well, it's... Well, you know, it's... Well, you know, to get it, but, you know, by a police... But, you know,

we're... You know, a kind of... You know, it's... And, you know, it's... And, you know,

and I, you're sure, that's going with the person who you talk, you know, me, we're in, right, Mr. Lange, will, you, Mr. Lange, yes, Mr.

Mr. You're not, like, oh, my, my, criss, da salle, that's... Probably, it done a thing, it's just... He will be in the United States to do it, you know, to do it, you know, yeah, it's not the job of the policeier to arrive show, you know, it's already, you're just going to say, it's already like cocky, show, and, hey,

eh, eh, eh, you know. The arrogance does absolutely nothing. I'd rather so to find an example like the arrogance has been good, but I'm not going to, but I don't know. As far to make the people mal-alise or the people, the people, it's brave who you who you look, I'm not, no, no, I'm not able.

I'm not able. So, so it's a reason for you have been a good career in an inquiry. Yes,

because you're to have done. But I'm doing with my little cousin that's six years, I'm with his father,

when I'm with our other other boys in there's, for me, it's not difficult. It's easy to make

to meet on the other than it's always to be able to be able to see. I'm not that's just,

I'd be more I'm It's the more I'm going to say, the more I'm trying to try, all the world is equal. I'm going to, I'm going to say, well, prove me that's not my life. Prue me that's better, but, you know,

you're sure, I'm talking to my old, I'm saying, it's not the level, you know, I'm going to say, you know, we're trying, you know, we're talking, you know, because, you know, I go to you see the first phrase, but if I can't rapidly, okay, we're put to stoy, perfect,

we're, we're in the same place. Well, we're, it's, it's what I'm, but I'm, I understand that when you're in this that's a lot, you know, you know, to be an inquieter,

you know, to be in an inquiries or you're like, like, murder, crime-organized, or you're like, you know, it's just, you know,

because, you know, for to turn an inquieter, you're doing, the school national of police who

I'm happy. I'm glad at this time, there, yeah, but, you know,

we're just, we're just of three after, yeah, yeah, I, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm talking to my colleague, no, but my my,

uh, my, uh, he, he, he's a little more young than more,

but it's been a few, a few years, a few years, and then, he's, you know,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, certainly, they're,

certainly, they're, well, those examines, and so, and so long, and so, and so,

then, and so, he's, yeah, but at the other, there was, there was,

there was, there was, a psychologist, a guy at the commission of police, and there had a representative of the National National of Police, also, who he had a packet of questions. Like, for example, the cell that he posed to everyone.

There, he said that there had a mantle that had been volleed. So, one, did, this is this is a man, it's a me, the other, say, no, it's at me. So, like, how do you do you do in the poche? So, then, you do you fudge

in a poach, to look if there's any paper, hey, there's not a paper. Okay. So, so I look at the grandeur because one who is a grown to the same, and the other was a grown of them

so, no, no, the little meggle, that's he's the way that, I mean, I, do you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm sorry, and then, and I'm sorry, and I like,

I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, there, there's not a name of mark, no, there's not no, there's noon no name of market, you're always pre,

so, like, so, that, the veston, I'm in my pocket, I turn a little caniff, Blancourt, I'll open the lamp, I'll cut a button. Hey, hey, hey, hey,

oh, he's at all the coat. That's the only the other one. He's formed a yule, not he, not he, he's in sack. So, like, I, I've got to be contorned like that.

What's he made in short that, I've got to do the result of 12 December, and, and on 12 December, it's me that had had been the

last note in all the first of Quebec, at the time. Wow. So, so I'm very content that to that, but I don't know

because I'd have given a more note, but in a lot, but in a lot, you know. But you had exclaimed. You'd have proven that. Yeah, I imagine. I imagine that we'd try that, but in all the same as to have to start.

So, now, you know, they're going to be in cabanone, they've got the prefraction, I see that, you know, they're well, no result at a trussing. It's a lot of, you know.

And when you're done of these results, then, then, and then, they're going to of those things like that so, so at the moment of

the guy, you're going to and then this house, they've got to they've got to they've got to they've got to

a little bit of a rannes at you've got to report, the guy, he's reported to get a million so you can't you,

you're trying to that, you know, it depends on who, because it's the value, you, you know, to be able to scoffice up to to be accused a good

citizen to get fired and get to let's try to make it it's difficult, you know, it's a lot of, you know, it's a point of that, you're making, it's something that

can't get gliss two-pire rapidly so it's, so it's almost the end of the enquite, and then they've they've wanted

that I've used to run in the filtration because I've had been my shoe more than the other so, so I have made my

first rachach that I've to get a l'clock. In the time, it was to it's been

to be in the Lone and then it's a lot of it's a time, it's a case,

the limit, I've been my big big cross transaction. No, after that's all of the

little little of the little bit of a quarter a half a half a few,

that's so I'm made a bit bit, but not enormously that. It's not

not your didn't, that, it's sure that's sure that It's a trill, like, that's a trill, like, right, right,

oh, yeah, we, that we're doing, we're doing, for the shop, we're doing a car, we have to, so we're going, we're doing,

who's the, he's a guy, he's able to be able to, you know, I'm embarking to be with you. So,

so we're in having to go to go and to buy them to buyout, and he had a depender at Montreal,

and he vending, and when you were in a dependeer, you'd ask you when you were to putt

to be in the fact that we're not the thing, it's that the same before the there's a motor that's made

to get to get to we're doing. We're going to we're doing. We're doing our backup, it's the GRC

that's on our yard of us but we're we're in we're in we're in a corner,

we know not know not even, but there there's a train that's the train that pass.

The backup is poignant the other bar. We know, we know We know At the time the telephone

cellular, it's the box in the same, with an antenna long to if you're to serve

in the chard police, you'd have the eye with the bandies in the back,

so we're not, so we're we're gonna know, we're gonna okay, there,

it's a hour, we're gonna, we're we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna

we're at a chance on the first thing we're there, two policiers of Montreal

who arrived in uniform I'm in my So I'm sorry So I'm gonna Hey, me I'm gonna make At least

Yeah, after that The back-up So on top They're gonna be They're gonna be the bandi Not me the bandi I'm gonna be That's the job

To have the air The bandi And he had a pears That's for that When he had to be He called the police He'd be he He called the police

So he's he called the police So he's So he's gonna Because he's gonna be He had been afraid He thought that's the motor, he'd be there's a re-wanger. Wow.

You have these situations, you know, in what you know, if it's a mity of danger, because, you would have to have been afraid, you know, he would be armed,

and he would be fired, like, they'd be fired, time, but there, we're going to be at two.

We've had, been, malgrue, they've not tried of arms, you, they're not trying to, it would be able to be able to be

a possibility. But even, you know, the policeies who are in a time you, you're trying to, you're trying to, you're just,

You're just dropped. You're just drop it? Because there's a little bit right, you know, you're not,

no, I'm gonna, you're gonna get to get to go out. No, no, it's not the because he goes

to the gos and they're after the there's still, you're still, it's more that's possible that's

it's been in the years, that'd be braced, you know, yeah, hit the far dirt bag,

and you, you know, he's, you know, it's not long, it's not long, it's

it's gonna say, to say, supposed to be in security, and what's what's your private, they're your own,

because they're not, they're not. They're not they're not. And when you don't know, when you're a little more,

at a point where you're more like, you're more, like, you're more, to go to, to go to the crime,

organized? You're not a crime organized, you know, proxenetic and the crime organized, if I'm not,

or if it's all the two and it's all, yeah, but it's, it's, it's,

it's, If a day, if it's not where I don't know, I'm not exactly, to do you, to find the abuse sexual on the little girls, or the madame who were abused when he was young, I've made, among the men, but a woman, not a young, that, who dated before I'd become a policeman, the inquiry.

I've done that for 10, 12 years, and a morning, I was up and then I'm sorry, because, my mom, I had some problems with my children, I'm separated, you, so, So, there's problems with the ma'am with the parents, the problem with with the children. The kids are always having to create their car

at their care of the men because it's me that was the guard legal of my own. So, that, it's not my affair. I was up in the morning, and so on,

and then I've been a good six months in a maison. You know, in the front, you'd be able to regulate the problems of the other

in the village? But there's problems with their children, they'd be able to be me. I mean, I mean,

I, the little time, there, but, I was going to be to be a pageette, because at the time, because at the point, we had been able to. He was going to say, and during the night, I replied, what is?

I was going to be suicidal. All right, all, you know, it's a key, you know, there's a day, you know, you see, it's a show, there's a day, look, there, tomorrow. Look, there, tomorrow, we'll go to go ahead and go to coffee and then there. And there are d'O., I'm going to, you know. But I've made it for many 10 years.

Plus, there are other dossier on the other dossier over. That, you know, you know, I'm just, you know, You know, at the place where you're sat, you, I've been in a lot of unfortunately, too, especially of this sense that. And, you know, there's these episodes that I've been doing,

and I said, I had a chance that I'd turn to two, because I'd have not been able. And I've passed one hour and a half, two hours with this person, to receive, their vehicle. But, you know, it's at all the

day. You can go to eight hours per day, you know, you bang there in there, in these women who are, I said, I mean,

I told me, you were, you know, to my wife, and of the cell that you're actually actually, and, you know, the way, you'd like, you're in a lot, you'd like, you love, and you love, you'd like, you love, and then you're

to love, and then you're a man, so, you know, and you're not appreciate, the men who, you know, to find, it's fond of, so, it'd be grugent in a day of... And you can't be there in face, for the same reason, that I explained to, you to make his own level,

And in the meantime, you don't know, to be able to be protective, because there's because there's, if there's there, you know, if you finish

by the pagey at a total day or the night because they have to be able to you rest, you know, you know,

to be sure, but at the time you have to keep a distance. Well, that's Nicolette. Nicolette, today,

they're going formed these inquietters, that they're inquietters, that they're going to get to this type of

crime, then, and he will say, oh, you know, the young, the

don't, forget not, it's not you're not, you have a mechanism of protection for you protect to that, you're not friendly,

friendly with, they recommend absolutely not that. A bit like a psychologist, you know, I'm a bit of a problem,

that he will play with to all. He will be to flotter in the door and he's sure, you get to, you. They're not

those other, you have some people, they're after at the university, for doing a blockage, you're a job those other.

we've got I had been to the little little guy he's and you know, and you know, that's the thing that's

even not in front of he's not, he does he not capable to me and do you get to be able to and I'm able to a knee to air?

He'll be not even if you me're six and two you pay 160 live, don't be able to be able to be the attitude

that I'm going to have with us because at six feet two, the first time he will pass probably

he will be protect. Ah, well, we're right. We know what what's what's

that you know, you know, it's a view all of things of things,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, the bad woman, who's

she has her wife, her wife, and a moment of a

moment of a day, a moment of the little man, he's called,

John Francis he was, he was two-p, he was I asked his name, it's Jean-Fran-Francois. But it's a little guy who was brilliant.

Because, as he called Jean-Fran-Francois, I'd call it Jean-Fran-Francoe. At a moment of a day, during our first encounter in the place, I'm called Jean-Francoe.

He had understood that, but it was not his affair. Okay. So, he me recount his story. And there, he said,

Papa, he me abused three times. By the part, I'm explaining what's the year, I'm trying to but you know, but the mother

is there all the time. Now, we continue, when I mean, I asked, I said, you know,

what's the time, I said, you know, to talk about other things, I'll be, at what I

have, you got, to be there, you've already, I've got, three years, or, or,

or, but, but, but, but at the point, all the time, it's

all, it's so, film. And then I'm there's a something that's there's a something that

there's a thing that's a lot of my time to get to get to be going to be what, what's what.

He just just said an interview with a little guy who he's said abuser sexually

by his person, and there there's a thing that there's not that I don't know that

I'd see what, I'm trying that's that's a thing that yeah he's okay

you're well, you're done a long, a n't a cent of a He's going to watch the video, he'll get me.

He said, he said, he says, he said, I don't. He said, I don't know what. We're two, we're thinking the same affair. But I'll go turn in the end, we'll start in the end of, and we'll ask you to decortique all what we see. At each time he talks, the abuse sexual, three-office, it's always three-foy. His age, it's four, it's five, but never three. But then, he knows that three.

So, that's his mind who he has moved on a day. He's done. He's drilled at three? At three. So, I was out of the I went to see the Papa, he said You're accused,

Your son said That's not I've been to I've never said that I love my garza Slack, slack, slack You can't How much to prove it?

It's just, okay, What's what we're doing? I say, okay, what's what we're doing, I'll take to the polygraphy because that's that Detecter a mansongue, I know that Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not true, it's not really, it's not true,

I got a child and his chum that's out of Quebec I'm called to he's he's

he's he's he's he's he's he's and he's over the

post the test polygraphic he passed oh the man he has never abus

his he's it's not admissible in court it's not not the

polygrap is not admissible in proof so that let me let's

he aright he had been there and he had he did during

the test to there, the policeier is a person, he can come in a testimony, and for me, after that I'm with, we're going to

have to say to him, you know, you've got to do that he, he'll say, and then, and the fact, that, you know,

that's, that's, to get to be to go to to go to go to a other piece. You'll

keep to , but it's not infallible, but it can't be more tunnel, let's turn, like,

to, you know, and to go, to go, in a little large. In a case, like,

it, it eliminate completely. because you can't even with with these medications, you can't

do not do you don't know the first thing is that the technician will say this test that is non-concluent why?

There's a multitude of reasons why it's not concluent. So if it's non-concluent, it's maybe on

suspect. Maybe that's not, I don't, I know, I know, but it's non-concluent. But,

if, you know, it's the result is positive or negative. And, he's not. What's what? After that six months, like you're, as you're, like, you're

up to see, on the day of a few times, you're in three months? Yeah, the dossier of sexual are they're coming to to get into the post. So, like,

I'll arrive my superior to see, I'm going to come to work on a doctor, a woman who's a lot of a woman who has been to be a lot

to do you're doing in what? But, just, I said, there was there a lot of a business sexual,

she had been, that's just a minute. Ah, yeah? She said, I'll come in in 15 minutes. She's a rene in 15 minutes

with a letter cached at his name. She'll say, you've got to give that to your boss? And that's

what's going to say, not, it's not serious. She's not. She's just said there that, that if he

don't give sexual, that I'd authorize returning in malady to fashion indetermined.

Indetermined. The time that you want to to be so on time, that you'll he'll have no idea. He'll be not change an idea. He'll not change

an idea. He's not person to do. The other people would have to do. But they're all the guys who have more than the same time. So, you know, you'll have to be able to when you're the more young. So, finally, I was arrived the Monday morning.

And if your dossier are there, well, justly, before we're talking, you, read it on so. And they, they're going to do. They see what I'm going to do with you. Oh, well, you're going to be doing other things.

He's like, well, there's not person who's not. me organized here in there. No, person who's occupies the dog, not person to be in the other, so I'm going to be to be able to do that.

Because I've had already talked to with the psychologist. She said, you'd ever be able to go to work with the kids'clock and I'm going to

go, no, no, she'll be able to, she's an affair. It's an other game, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot, because she'd say,

if you're not to have to ever to aim the source, you've not to have to ever to aim the victims, you're not to have to ever

to ever to ever to ever to ever ever No, no, there's nothing to do you. So, I'm not to do you. See?

So, it's a rare that there's a ruck that's not going to say, yeah, the quality of the car, ms, you know,

it's not that they do, they're not, they're not there's a guy in that's a crosser that

that's that's that's not, you know, it's not, you know, he'd be able to the place of the

other, oh, he's he payed but he'd do it's and the other he'd have menaced. I was in prison. He could not be Chrison-Brolley.

It's in full of that. It's a whole world. It's a total of a month. So, finally, he had started to work there. And I've been so. So, you were the department?

I was the department. Crime-organized, and other, of Brossar. It's so. But I was chanced because the out of Quebec

had started of the project limine that he applied at the time. It's the other were with their concess,

with an complete in your sector, and you'd have you grapahe and if you had other Ville to be

there's a lot of the time, we'd have to be able to work in a year, we've worked out of New York, and

there was a whole of the country of Quebec, with the patron plus the boss of the other,

then there was Longueue that, Greenfield Park, Brassar, and St. Tubeb. We were all together.

We had to work all to work out your dossier, you know, St. St. St. St. St. Peter, you're doing to and we're doing that. But some

exactly, at least, we're at least, we're at least? Yeah, yeah. Which is an epoch or what the motor preend of the

power, it's the time where it comes, yeah, south arrives, and the gang, the gang of motor

who are too south. And, and there, we're trying to there, and it's going to very well. They refond that

a second way. And then after that, there are other dossier that I'm associated with an

team of the ECO, the squad of the crime organized to the South of so I'm

so I do you know, I'm doing with us with us normally, they're going to

you're and you're there, you know, it's, the sky's the limit, you know,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, it's like,

you know, you want, you sort of and then, and, and, And with the guys that I've got I met with the guys that I've seen,

they're going to be there some of the other things and then, but then, but your name, we're going to be able to after the carquejo at cause of the

death of the little bonoom Yeah, for the people who Daniel De Roche for those who who's not in the squad of Carcaju

is the squad that has been formed for, it's during the War of the Motor who is the Escois in the front who have

made fin to the Guard of the war of the two and one the gross arrestation of Mombuchet

et cetera so. So, so you do do the party of the squad

Carcaju at cause the contact that I had with the guys of the girls and they

and they they're and they know that they want to be so they've made me so that's

Mario Lopperie has been the director the sortie to the at some when I'm with them

with us so I'm with them so I'm I mean, it's the telephone during these three years, we'd work,

there's a lot, it's a great journey, you know, it's always, sometimes, I'd be in home to go to

my night, to work at time, you're not at a time, and you can't be not to be able to

to make a eye, because that's, because your part of, you're in a house, of the

car, and you're in trying to get to get to an, in trying to installs,

you can't, you know, you've been, you know, and the filature that's on, the guy, he went to

he's part to go to or he's part to a carque a bit of a I don't know, there's there's probably

there's probably I'm not, I'm a lot of maybe you're not to be able to and I respect that, is that, in

Carcaju, is the emphasis was, because the one was really, it's the old's really, it's

the war, it's, the war, it's, the war, is, is the effort had been more than

than the other, or the efforts were, uh, the two side?

Well, it had been the rock machine had already been sold by the CUM.

Okay. Because on my Nilo, because we functioned by GILO, we had

two enquattors of the CUM who had had made part of that, and they

were in course, so they were they're quite in their gang

to us. So the emphasis they were more on the house us

we? Because that after after to murder of the guardians of prison. Was it, was you still in Carcajou,

so? Yeah, okay, it's that, I'm going to I'm going to mention not of the year of the arrestation, because the first

the first time he was acquitted, and there's a second time. Yeah, that's a French Charbonneau, who's been a

judge, yeah, yeah, it's so, but France to have worked with us in the bureau, yeah,

but it's, how, how it's how, how, the verdict? The verdict. Is you the verdict?

With Pierre Luke Fong, who did Godass Gagne? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've seen. It's a real because before

to turn, we were talking about of the missions like that I'm maybe seen two times, but I'm looking at this and I was

that, I had the impression that we were on point, he was not bad for Godass. The actor that's a

guy, yeah, it's a new It's a very good, very, very But, you know, I'd look at all the mechanics, I'd regard to the way that's been

the movie, and the comedian, don't I'll forget my mom Boucher, who talks at a pretty not in that series.

Yeah, that's the boss of anti-gang, the chief of police in Antigames, that's that exactly. I'm not a little over here.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, very much chance, all right, they're going to have 20,000 comments,

of the people who have said, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's,

but, you know, it's, in the chamber in a place. But I'm, you know, I'm an impression that's a series who are made

a lot of research. I'm an impression that there are many people who have been talking about the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, I think it was very, very, very, on point,

someone, that's a great, a great series, that's a great series, I've all complete,

and I, and I, I'd be able to all, and you know, you're doing, you're doing, even if it's

not they, at the, the, the, the, not quite really, but Frank Charbonneau

even if she had been asked if she said wasn't she, the manner that she had reasoned and she

had said, she had addressed her and she had read he was in prison he was really like that.

He had had to have to regard there hours and there's there there's a

lot of material that could use and when you know you said,

you know, a man, you're up to see, not the sound, not the time,

I'm not in the question, and I'm in the job to the police who are in to work to do you,

but, you know, after that, you know, you've never to get, because that you're trying

to stay the micro, there's a there's, it's, it, there, the guardians pre,

it's, it's, it's with, that, it's a bit it's, but it's, but it's a

other kind of energy. Okay. It's not the same energy that a little fig or a

little guy will come in to for a farce. So, there's a stress but a stress that's more,

it's more stressant? Yes, it's more stressant, and it's the beginning, because,

you know, because there's a bit of there's a person, like the fear on the idea of the

idea of the science. Which is a very be a phrase? You know, I can't say,

I can't say, I'm, that the an accountant with who I have worked the boat that all of

fun, because we know his story now, but all the I'm I'm going to who's

everyone, everyone has been an honesty remarkable, not a value there in

nothing of that, and it's that, it's so that's so that's that's the

fun to with this what I mean with that, it's we're having

plenty of occasions to get the in plenty of people, we

we're we We'd see it, because we saw that the bank of the airs had at a tell place, and all the money it was on end up for the

cashed of dope for the month. We had seized $5,000 and $500,000 in the bank of the house, which had a man had been reclaming. And this

money was downed and then, there a runner who parted from there, with a pickup in the box archivex, who met in a box of pickup

not covered to anything. a a day of a day of in the traffic of Montreal imagine,

we're seeing that when it's when you're going to be in it's going to we're in there's going to there's a

there's probably $200,000 in this box, we we've got on the night and there's there's not

person who has done that and I'm at a point I'm at a project of equet electronic

for how it's how it's CGS CGS In other I don't even I mean to

it's a company that's a company that a part of a car, and so you're not,

you know, you'd get to get to get to the guys, we're talking about and we're going to get,

we're in and then we get, and I'm to make, it's going to get back, so, so if we're

we're going to the company, that also it's all right to get, there's, there's, there's,

you know, I'll be 10 Piers, it's probably $0,000, it's worth, the, the,

The chiefs like that I'll give, I'll give, but the patrons in a quarter a day Eve Trudel, Mario Lopry, because Mario Lappre, the manned

of the director, he's, he's he's been to know a little meeting at a moment of the little guy, excuse me,

you know, you know, what's the says, you know, you know, you know, they're probably that you'd

know, because each ill a little working in, in, in to know in to know,

the need do no, and the right to know, it's very important in a while a week. If you have no, you'll

not be able to know if you have asked to get to this company and you have an intention to get to get to

your report, I will be in the future, I'm going to last, it's a deal of an issue if we

can't say, because you know, you know, they're going to have whatever,

they're going to get to get a bit the fashion that you're doing to use, so,

so the actions will drop so that it's the time to have an to get in and then Simon we'll

not go to buy because the company will not have done. Nobody's we're doing.

And we were in after the end of the enquateer. We were two, four, six,

eight, eight per I'll, and these hilo, there were, there were, one, two,

three, four, five, five, five kilo, so, that's, that's to

try to to work on the and the blanchement, and the ordinances of cis,

and those other, they were two zilos. So, they never had to work there, and there were and there's a lot of

that's really, so I'm very proud of that, you know, also, it's sure that, you know, it's a squad who

probably, you know, because the people were still because, you, we'll say, it's, it's,

it's, it's, when there's, you know, when you're, you know, when I'm , you know,

I'm still, of a car, like a bookly in a restaurant, I, I, I, I,

I don't know how many of the same time. It's a lot of the same time. So, like, now where there's always had always been a space of code, I think it's a part of that that, I'm saying, but the code of the rue has started to shirre a little.

The reglements are becoming more important than the code of the day, you're not to do you're not because, oh, you're there, no, you know, you're going to putt, it's like it, it's not that it's like to.

Yeah, but that's the code, you have to apply to that to the Italian. The Italians, they respect the code. The motor, you know, before the Italians, when I was young, young, young, police, there had a problem with a person, he'd have a man with an guy of Italy,

he'd have got in a violon, he'd have had a job, and he'd return to an Italy. And then, the corps of police, with the information, and they're all all together, with the doone, for that when the guy arrived with his violon, they'd remit down the next avion for the Italy. Now, the Italians, he had more

of the men, because the men of them, they'd do they'd have not from us other. So, they've got engaged the motor. It's the same that the motor

have to try to them to do. And then after that, they said, and then, they're doing it. So, it's the same time as they

those other, they don't know that. And of what I know, to see, at a minute, it's that the men, it's

that's exactly the same thing with the gang of the rues. Yes, well, I'm engaged the guy of gang

of rues, for our jobs, to do do jobs, Passing with your It's not It's quite

It's not It's quite They're doing They're doing They're doing They're doing They're doing Yeah, it's

It's bad And if you're You're looking You know There's like a Yeah I don't At the

Yeah, I'm It's quite And it's Pusant and They're At a minute The motor have put

much More people And then you We're trying to live the other Cote The gang of course

We're trying to We're We're in We're in It's in this moment with all what's

what's what's the thing. Gregory Willie, it's a job. You know,

for the motor, but it's he of representantant of the motor to get

to get to an espose an espose a kind of a special I don't, I'll be not the

thing, I'm not black, well, he had been not much he had been patched?

I think he had been patched, no, no, no, if it's white, you can't,

If you're homosexual, you can't... It's not... You know, you know, I think he had been patched. But he was close. Yeah, he's proxed. Because he had been patched, I think it's a little bit of a good. If there were the color that the motor would...

He was the link, because, he was... Yeah. ...that he had... In Montreal, North, he'd garrate all. He gared all. How... How...

How we see that a time that the job is made made. We've got dismantled 2001, we know. All the whole know, you know, the operation 2001.

Yeah, prenton, 2,000. There's a prenton, 2001, exactly. There have been many who have been able to make the hand on college the mom

two times, you know, you're not doing and there was to be able to, you, when it's been when it's run to see,

when it's done that's just there's journalists and the guardian of prison, it's It's a thing, when it's a thing when it's

when it's going to go more long, it's there that there's been I think that there's many people who are saying, hey, the money, I'm afraid, you know, they're not making, they've got to, they've not made, the money, I'm an impression, no, no, no, no.

Because it's like, there was a pressure public, well, the public made the pressure of government, the government, they want, there more than that, it's because they're, because they had passed over the guardians of prison, and a journalist, as a concede,

but there were also, in the visor, a policeman, an inquieter, there were also a procurer of the coroner, and there was a judge. He wanted to put in that. The judge,

there, he had to find the telephone in Quebec, there's, to be over not that we're not that. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, our patrons,

we'd say, all the little guys, all, everyone finish at four hours, because we're putting to the morning, so, I said, I'm going to go to Quebec.

I'll go. They're going to go. To go, we'll go, we'll go. We'll get to say, okay, we'll continue,

there's no problem. It's a reglaid. Well, there was a question. For the security, and also, because the politicians

and what are, they want to be elected, they want to be like, thanks to do you, it's, it's great to

we, that we didn't, say, yeah, he did a part to say, but the politics, it's,

Yeah, the politics. I'm a lot for the politics, especially in Quebec. But in a lot of the whole, but, well, I think, the whole,

the same, but, you know, it's so, but, it's, this feeling that,

to have, Chris, we've got, we're doing, it's sure that we're content, but it's like

the menager and it's always to work to start. Because when we've been we've been we're doing,

we're trying to on the car. And then, we're going to go to see the old at least there's a

co-in- while the time that's in the time, you know, they've finished the guys of the

United, they've done these guys, of the West Canadian to Ontario, you know,

that the Ontario has been a lot of chifted there, there's been in

there, yeah, it's so for replaces the the UFair who is

in prison. So, so it started, it's always it's, you're, you,

it's, you, It's a job that has made fun. It's clear. It's still. The facet change, but... It's all right. The method, a little.

But, it's all the same kind of world. A pen. It's all the same affair. The money, the booison, the cu, and the other. The grave, the... The ABCD. The view for us other. If, I know, you know, you're not...

You know, we've got to... We've got to two gross operations that are very, very, very common in Quebec, in the springtime 2001. Shark. Yeah, Shark. You've not been in Shark, nothing, but, you know, when you're

doing that, you know, of the exterior, of what you know, how it's happened, because I think that the result have been, at the moment you have, you've had

been in 2001, you know, you know, it's finished with some people, who have been given up a and that's not used

and then I'm totally been relashed. Yeah, but that, I can't be not to say anything, because I'm

simply that, like I said to tell to, the minute, that you signed your name to sign your and be the

there's people, And it's very correct also, you know, because there's a someone who knows who he's making and he's making it all right, what it's been after what it's been doing. But you see pure nothing. And I see very for having to give several points of press

to the journalists in different situations, for the murder, for other things, what I mean, what I'm doing. What I'm saying? What's not, that's not going to be imprimed in a journal. Ah, well, that. But how do you want, I'd make a idea on the North Carolina?

Yeah, guys, I'm concerned. If person would have been able to send with the harno. The hornos, I'll see. I'll be trusted. We'll say that the journalism traditional, the journalism traditional, is not, no, my,

my, my, my, my dad, if I could say, yeah. So, I've got to put to have been, to give me, to get to my

little bit, that, they'll be a good idea, about, and, it's a safe. When you've

been a gross inquiry like that with a gross team for many years, and that, you return, you,

Carcaju it's, it's finished, I'm going to have an other enquite, a new a squad

a man who will popper, you're to turn to your inquiries to dops to your point,

to the brossor even not. Even not. Even not. Because, there, you know, I accepted a

project of electronic that had dured six months of time. I've worked six days per a week,

for a month, I'd I'd have the seven and 15 to 80 hours fastel, because the

lines, I had 42 lines, and, listen, it had never seen at the time. I accepted to do. Like I said,

my friend had always accepted, well, I said, well, we've asked, well, we're going to be able to make the hours, but I don't know

exactly what it's going to do, we'll see, what you're doing? She's what you do that, you want to do? She said,

yeah, but go-asie. So, then, after, she, she, she, I'd, I'd gochew, and I'd be able to work, and I'd be in the morning of a night, you know, so.

So, I'd tell you. I'd say, not fair to tell you. If you were not going to be able to, I'm trying to lose. Okay, I said, I thought, just as I thought you'd have returned after Carcadieu, you're going to return to your enquiry and then. So, you know, view that I'd have been in consideration of that, but the salary, it's not a village of Brassar that, it's a government of the government, it's a government, envied the Arrasor, it's not right,

The government envoyed the money to and the money and then it because you said in the phone this job

that's related to Karkajos was that's so yeah, I was in Karkajos at this moment so, so so, so,

so you've got had had this time, so you've got the time to because there's no, no, no,

you've got to money, but you're to do that, but you're an anchorate you, the anchorate it's a,

it's a bit curious, and everyone will know everybody will know that's over how many, all the

and this year, I've done more than the chief of polo. I'm at home. Because he's at home home. He's at home to work at work, but not me, you know?

And then, at cause of that, he has a jealousy that's like installed. And they've made. So, the pressure of the other that's the year, and he's so,

and get to see, and get them, but there was no job for me when I was to have to do. What is they've made,

the faux Piers and the faux Piers. After all the experience that you've just came to tap

in that this big in this enquite, you're an you're, you're, you're a an

an tool and you're in an tool at the human. At the human. Yeah. What,

what? Yeah. At a moment of a day, a couple of people who people who

is a rour like the mark of Pap in the Flew of St. A.

there was a guy, a guy of the GERC he was perfect bilingual, and he had been

to someone of someone I'm I'm I was the pleasure, I'm still I'm still able. Ah, yeah?

So, they've got all organized that, I'm going to turn to work for three months to prepare the process of Stadford and Stannick,

the two guys of the Ontario, and they're going to be oldy guys, they're able to return to the end up to

a month, continue, but it's for $10, but it's for $20 $10, just as time

that we part the newels of stupfian, unify, the vils fusioned, so, so I've been there,

I've been there to, me, to me, to me, must have to go to charge of the Enchartes of the Enquette, to insomption.

You've changed to call the police directly. Yeah, I've got to get rid of time. I'm not that.

You know, the whole in hierarchy. I've had to rest in the Rue, uh, and it's more

than the Bureau of the Vois. Because in the street, the way to come in, but the bureau and he

arrives far in back, you know, you know where it's, so, so, we're afraid with

the politics, I've not really, really, really, I'm, it's not my tauts of the tea. So, so I lost that at a year. And I'd

send around a college. I'd write a coup on criminalized for us other for us all, for them, for us, for us, for one during three years. I'd do get into menager at St. Fabian, on the mare. It's on the rentress. Finney the affairs of police.

And then, for you'll arrive at all the book. Before we're going to arrive, excuse me. No, we'll get to get a little. It's correct.

It's a little point that I'd I'm going to re-in' and if you don't go to go to it's just at the beginning, you know,

you know, when you're talking about, you know, in the proxenative, it's all, you know, you know,

and then after that you're a man who travel 75, 80 hours per a week, it's hard to

get to get to some, you know, if you're something that's really, with your

life? Now, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been,

but you, You know, at a camera, you know, I said, you know, I said, you said, you know, it's been 21 years ago, and you'd say, hey, I'd have never thought to be retrained because you'd never. Because you'd say, with the life that I've lived, with the abuse that I've, you know, because when you see, when you were, we'd say,

we'd say, we'd say, we'd say to your bonn'am, at the point, we'd not, we'd, don't, you know, that's, you know, too, also, not, not, no, okay. No, no, no, no, no, not, no, no, no, not, for the drug, no, I, no, I, I mean, it's the When I'm going to work, you know, like when I was at Longuehl, let's not be, you know, there's a lot of the

there's a couple of, you know, I'm going to finish, you know, so I'm going to find out of the same. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to say, no, no, no, no. I've got to at 7 hours at a maximum, because I have a comparison to have made a november. So, that's just there's... So, often, the night, don't me, not. No.

The stress, the summer, so it's just the point there to do. Yeah, the two men, you know, so I thought well, but, no, he passed on the travel. I'd had been to mourn the year past,

by example, he was operatic a rower. Okay. In the 12 years, between the first examin and the operation, it's been two years. It all right,

very, very good. very, very very well, you know, you can't have to be to be on about it

to be on today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll endure that?

Yeah, she'll end up. She, she made, her, she's, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, no, no, it's sure, you, she, she,

she's, there's, there's there, there's, they're, it's, it's not

not much, and the man, they've been, they're, there are, even, they want to have the promotion, because the woman doesn't have been able to be

the promotion, you know, the more that's the most of , I'm going to go, you know, do you know, to do you, do you do you do with

do you do to do with that, yeah, but go to do you have to do you have to do? And it's for that you have you done with

six little children? Well, I think it's off camera that we have because you me said, just the

you wanted to your house on the bar of the marre, and after the first little second, but after the

third time, In fact, now, I'm going to reproach to the family. It's so, but I'm going to have to be to turn here until a little. Just at the 4th year.

When the 4th is coming to the world, there's a bit of a fair, so, so, she, she, she, and I always

say, yeah, I've always a good, I've had a career, and it's, it's great to it, it's,

it's, it's, great, to the, so, so, so, I, so, so, I'm not, I'm not,

she'd be at , she, she had, she, she, she, she, She's not she's She's doing to do with your When you did she do with her.

That's not You're doing so, it's a lot of Now, now, I'm going to She's over The other people We're in front of

all of this. And then you're Peter Bergeron Is that kind of Grandpapa? Yeah, that's a lot of to do you know,

to do you See, I've been given my when I was when I was She had She had

She had She'd be present And it's After that, after that's not, after that's after that's been present, my children were there's been there.

So, so the little children that I'm already, hey, I'm not too in the sense that I'm far

fashy, and the little they know, and they like that, you know, that I'm just, that I'm just, that,

I'm, I treat like if it's at my proper children, to the difference that I've not.

I'm, I'm, but I'm, but I'm, the grand parents have always the good

The good You're You're You're You're You're You're You're just

the good You're just the good When you're When you're When you're Yeah Momh

Mom? Mama. It's not my problem. No, it's really The two two people

The two two guys They're They're going in to end of time of time

They're They're They're They're They're They're They're I'm

I think it I'm I'm I'm really at level personal, because, you know, I listen to talk to your

family, where I'm, I'm going to have a lot of job, and I'm doing to live to pay as, because I'm a bit more, because I'm a bit, like, yeah,

and if it's not, I'm going to be there, I'll be back up, and we'll be able, so, so, it's, so it's, it's, even if you're not been there, and it's not

always, but, you know, it's not too, it's not so much, when, you're able to set to support, and it, it's, It can be a lot. The question of confidence,

also, you know, and then, and he had go-tay, I remember, when I was doing the project, like the

project, like I'm talking about, I'd be, I'd say, we'd often, we'd have,

some, you know, and we'd had done, we'd have, some of, we'd be back-up for the young

who'd , they'd learn the call, to come, to make a job, to come, to make a job, for them,

so, so, there, we'd, so, we're we're all, we're, And we had some fun.

It would be able to that we'd have to bring a beer or two, too. So, so, well, you're able to to carry the grand? Not capable.

Add to me. Not capable. Lut. Come, me and she came to search. She was coming to me to charge. She'd, like, we'd have to Cairmented?

Because it's a charred of police. We'd not to conduct it. It's not a surmounted. You go. It's also valuable that the mayor of the mayor of the village and is in

a lot of the same affair. The sarmamentable on number nine. But as we say, Oughts Ours.

Well, yeah, but yeah, mann't you. Oh, yeah. It's not a problem that I've been

my tradition and it's subtle like a two-perk in plain of face. But it's so, but it's not,

it's, oh, when you do, I'm levy at the morning, I'm going to look at the morning, I know the color of the babette of my moosey,

there's a real, he had a real color, that's he was the one of the day, my bobbet, my bobbett-rose, you know, but it's not in the sense that,

but I think you've said, I've got to, I've got to, I've seen, I know, I've seen, it's finished, that,

and I'm just, it's finished, then, I'm returning after that, at Carquejo and, and, there,

there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, It's you who did you have done, you know, hey, you're trying to do you. All right.

You know, it's time more, you know, that's, well, it's, you know, well, but it's, you know, it's going to be in a party of retreat at, uh, at the beginning of the day, of the infiltration that we had with us with us at Carquejoot, you're a little guy with a bit of a police. And then, he'd probably their retreat, it's, sure, 20 years ago, you know, then, you're going to party. And then, he arrives, there's a guy who's, he's a man, he's a guy who's, he's a couple of young

architeers who are there, the guy of Carkejo in a moment, and he's me present, you're telling, you're telling,

he's, he's been by, he's, he's been by, he's, he said, my name, to work in

time it's called Carkejo. Ah, he said, how is, how's he , he has, not said an idol,

he has said, in the, in the case no, he's used, but, it's like, it's like,

it's, like, it's, like, it's, I know I never that I was, you know. It's the fun

to know that your name. It's still in place. Because in the text it's called Carcageo, so in the first it's a squad

that exists in a carcatchew. Yeah, it's a club, the Lerm, okay. The squad

regional mixed. Ah. Yeah, yeah, we'll we're on a day on

two new new news. Yeah, yeah, you're saying, well, you're going to write

the books. Yeah, but it's, it's not come so. It's had come

by an accident ski. with a ski, there's a problem with a mollet, it's been a minute and he was able to march without having to have been in a great deal with, so I'm on the other than

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and then, and so, I sat there, I said, wow, wow, I'd say, wow, I'd say, wow, I'd say, wow, I'd love, I'd always, I'd always, I'd always, I'd always, I'd always, I'd always, I'm going to go with the game. On the computer, and I've only had the time. So, I'd go to a new time of course with it, in an hour, but not more than that.

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you know, with, at the end, to be able to do, what's the same to do. So, there's a cousin that's not

a boy, at Bick, she'll be not, write, what you know, I'll write, because I,

see, you know, you know, I've been to beck a bit of something, to do you

know, but not a thing that I can't do to observe the other when you want, and to

to have to be in front of notes and to do what with that. You've not been approached by these firms privy, some things like that? I've been approached by a procurer of the defense. No, no, no, no, no. So, no, no.

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for a morning here, Indro, Quebec, I'm not, so I've, so, I refused to, these affairs, but, but it's the sole.

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he said, you know, she'd like that, the romance to do you know, the rame in the ramban police, and then I'm,

the first James Bond that I read, he was in my catechise, she Fré's a Christian, and I was in the punishment

in cause of that, so, so, so, I do ho adored that, so, so,

she'd say, what, don't know, she'd say, no, no, she said, no,

I said, okay, I'll try to write a chapit, then it's written a chapter, and then it's going to, it's going to, it seems to be the same time, after seven, eight, six chapters, she said, why do you find out a living? But, now, she'll say,

no, I said, no, I'd have to have a little bit of that. No, no, no, I'm not, so. So, now, continue, it, it's a middette in the middle, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it'd be able to read it a little, you'd have to correct,

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malgame and it's something something to something that's finally it done it to be there to

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add a Quebecor and Quebecor that pre to a suite. And for those who who are

probably we're probably a little in a way, you have seen in the intro

I just you've but he resour at the November, not with this poachette, not. Because if you're just they're not, you're saying, you're not

with Quebecor for this live, so what's what you're saying, you know, it's the page, it's the disposition of the page. So, that's what, it's what's been changed, but, you know, the history is the same. Perfect. There's nothing that changed.

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It's what I mean, you know, Well, look, I can't I can't I'm not a certain connoceau for who he comes to

me. So, it's sure that there's a bit of me in the other person also who are

there in and I know, I know, I have participated at the arrestation of six

policiers, don't four with who I worked. And these guys, uh, these

guys, these guys, these guys, they're, how is we could say some,

there's influencers. So, if they're there's there's there's there's

they're not in my party of they're so they're in a so they're so that

there's a there there's a person who will say oh, he's in a

situation no, no, maybe in this situation that, but the same person

but the same personage that you're in the person who's in he's going to

be able to be a great like you so so all It's all the characters of synthesis.

But, you know, it's like a bit of total. We're going to, you know, I'm going to, you know, but, you know, on the scene, I mean, I'll say, I'm going to, let's say, let's know, a number on something,

I'm going to be on the game, but it's not going to be it my chum, but it's more droll if it's a minute to say, we're doing, we, we're doing, we're just, we're, we're doing,

and then, you know, and then, and then, you're doing, and then, then, and then, you'd

you're in an second you're in and then yeah I'm playing the

because you know, because you have the salons of with Quebec all the fact, that's the fun, when you were in

with the great non you're having with bobbinette or bobbinette yeah and you

you have plenty of people around to you see that it's great yeah he's more

now, but he's more but you know so that so that Claudine So, so that's all the world

when you go to the region, they're doing at the house of edition, well, they're going to be there, but they're never there, or they're

there, so I can't pass my jornel there. I've been vending the and the people never that,

I'd like that, you know, I'd like that, I'd like, to see, a king, we'd have to start

to come back, with a other, not a new house, not a house, not a new but a new

other, and it that had done that Quebecor, they're they're decided that it

had finished The romans. The romans, yeah. He's all right just with some all right with the redettes or

the affairs written by the bedet. I'm not a bedet. I'm not a bedet. So, it's at the

port. So, you're going to have a second and he's a third year, and the third time, and the third time?

A. A. Because I, I'd attended after A. It's been two years.

You know, they've been pursued, ADA, for one of the cont interdied, it's a cost

very a cheque to be in the for it's for being to be able to be able

and then for that during the time that people like people like like I'm not

not being not so they don't have to have to do you have to yeah

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it's a she it's a it's a correctress of my two livres okay

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a colleague humorist that's who's called Ben Lefebvre, who, he has, he, he has, he had read these books, and he has looked at, who, he has, personally, engaged,

that person, tell person, to person. And, you know, he has, like, decided to, not to, not, to, you know, to, you know, to say, we'll be able to do tell you, my, look, to do what, you're doing, what, so, so,

so, instead of two-pies and-mive, by leave, well, you're going to be like, but it's like, but it's like, you're, because, we're, because, we're doing very, very classic,

you know, the auto-production, we know, we're not even after a just for a show, you know, we produce,

me, I'm a company production who produces my podcast, and who produces my podcast, and he

did, and he has decided to that in the domain of the book, so, but I

understand also that you have the facility to you're to the question, and I

get the fun, when we're when we're when it when it's a You know, you're up the morning,

I'm not an writer, I'm not going to, I'm a policeman. And again, today, you're not an writer, I'm not a writer. I'm not a

person, I'm not a politician. I'm not sure. I'm a chapter that I, I have the people who listen each one of my

chapters are rematched in the books, in a way, the name at the end of the end of then I've created

my chapter, before I had to make a bad phrase, to make something of well, I'd say, I'd have been

a lot of course. There's a lot of course. There's a lot of nothing that. We'd have to do not. We'd efface that, and we'll recommence. After that, I've got, I've written. I've written as far as because of the Army Canadian, I've seen a co. So, I've been

as a secretary. Oh, yeah, yeah, when I get the idea, I'm going, and I've written. After that, I'll repress, and I'll modify. At all, at least, at 8 and 10 times. In 18 and 10 before to let's before it to let's

and then I'm sure that they're just to make sure that they that's not talking about a policy, it's easy, it's easy, it's a 234, 2.36,

it's correct, but... You've got to be that the most impede to comprehend, to, you know, I'm... Well, I'm not the same I'm imagining,

I'm imagining, but I'm in the sense that those who he leased for me, they can't even if they're saying, what's you know what? But those that I

know not, they can't be to join me to me say, they're not, they're pretty to see, so they're so they're too

all, they're trying to leave, and then I'm sorry, and then you imagine that after you also, you're to understand

to be, yeah, because the mechanic and so. Yeah, Elizabeth Trembier, she has that's the

who has correct my two books, I love, this madam that, it's not

very easy, and she's she, she, she, she, she, she, she, and you said there's a lot of things.

Oh, but it's so that it's a moment of a day, you know, when you make the car at the table, then, and then someone comes to have to conchone it in, it, and it's not always your affair. So, 100%.

But if, you know, if it's always that it's good and it's not, and that's not, no, no, that's, I'm very with you. So, there's a lot of that I've got,

the first time to do, I, did, you want to change of the affairs? She said, yeah, it's perfect. You're going to do, because.

because there's a few that's not not by the not about to the by the structure

of the history the way that the way that's the way that's develop and the and there's there's

there's there's there's that I'm not that I'm sure with the way I'm

the way it's correct the same because it because it engage also the and she

she's she'll do okay you have done to do because you me too you know you're not

you're not you're not well And it's cool, that. And I've learned with her

and just the fourth- book, it's the one of the first thing, it's the most easy

to do you because it is more the standard and you have you have you have you

have a possibility of a five- yeah, but that that will be for the

retrait at the old I'm run-due, yeah. So, you've been to have,

you've been, you've got, written, a police and you're going to write a letter for your for retreat? For retreat,

the son. He will send to end up their retreat? But is all the same each romance, is it a continuity

of eye? Is it we're trying to do? Always the same enquiries? Always the

same inquieter. So, it's the same career than I, the same partner, the same secretary, the same bureau, the same chair, there's nothing

that's changed. So, I've made exactly that. It's mounted like a James Bond. You see?

Mere Mone Penny Peney, and that gang, it's the same with the same affair. With less the budget with your auto Quebec?

Well, yeah, yeah, you're not, you have not a missile in the rear of your car

of your car. No, no, no, no, absolutely not, but the advantage that there's that I've seen

that, it's primarily everyone who will leave that, they're not per due, in the first

there's a there's there's a different, in the second, there are many,

there are In him, there's a lot more, and in the last year, there's a description of the characters, and this is a pair of time, he creates that. You know, it's a bit of James Bond, when you look at the film,

he pauses not, he doesn't know. He doesn't explain. Let's don't, let's get the circle in first, is that we're going to be despaized, or he's it's lily well if we don't have not used the other?

It's all right, so if you don't know the detail on who are the personnel. Who are really the person? It's just there, that, that it will change. And in... I mean, I've seen, I've discovered, I've discovered James Bond,

and I've been, I'm not tap the years Sean Connery, and... But no. For me, GoldenEyes, it's the debut of my James Bond that I've got to connect, you, so I've got to reclure. One or two, perhaps, I've already heard of it, but, you know, it's a minute when you're you've got to be to see Sean Conry in 70, you're a bit more interesting. Yeah, that's sure.

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person will be sent to... Personn't, Vise. You, when you read, you see, to who you see, with who you said when you're saying, but, but person can't

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something it's not it's it's kind of yeah it's kind of yeah it's really

interesting I'm content because you're because you know now of

these people who are not people who they're that is the

the girl of a couple of me that we have a 17 how it's it's a 17 19th

Virginia Gagnon. Virginia First, thank you to listen the Pottias and thank

to have put here on my Chimmy possibly that you've learned that you

know, I'm really content of this episode that I've found that really

interesting and I think that the angle of the other quote, you know, especially on the stories,

of the parko, and I I'm trying open also, you know, not too of filter, and I appreciate that.

Well, I'm sure. Sincerement, I'm sorry, thank you to have been. Thank you. It's really

greatable. Well, I'm here, there's an old colleague, this style of that, I think that we like

that, we have received junior, and it has been very, very well, it's interesting, I, you know,

I'm interested, We're going to admit, we're going to have the other side. The avocas are more facile of access. The ancient Jews, the ancient policiers, it's not always easy. We're not always, we're trying, but I'll not devoid punch, but we're on some of the things, again, today.

Thank you, Pierre. I'm a pleasure. Thank you to have heard of this episode, atopal.