Au Parloir - Épisode #125 - Histoire du motard

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

Dans cet épisode, je reçois Dan d’Histoire du Motard, un passionné, historien et auteur qui nous plonge au cœur de l’évolution des clubs de motards au Québec. On explore ensemble : les débuts des clans dans les années 1940, la montée de la criminalité, l’arrivée des H3lls Angels, ainsi que les trois grandes guerres qui ont marqué l’histoire du milieu.Un épisode riche en faits, en contexte et en récits fascinants — pour comprendre d’où tout part… et comment cette culture s’est transformée jusqu’à aujourd’hui. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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The volume 1, it's about, we go to the 80, to 70, if I go to memory. But in the podcast, we're going really more long. Dan, it's an historian of the history of

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who they appreciate. I, I think it's super interesting. We're going to always to get a new recet, but

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the motor when we're talking to in a crime in a Christmas there. He has

he did he's like, we're going to make all the on the video. If you're

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instrument accord, and frets. Okay, so, violon also. No, not, not,

not the violin. All the instrument at cord and at fret, so, bass, mandolin, you know,

banjo. Banjo. So, so it's, it's, it's, it's, maybe more,

that I'm, so, that's not of that that we're talking about today, but let's don't

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because we're saying, Arling, it's for that we're going to I'm going to, I'm, Out camera, we said that. If I go in France and I say that I'm a motor, it's a signify that I'm a proprietor of a motor,

if we're in a cabre, we're doing that we're a motor. It's not the same signification, that, the term motorer is just someone who makes a motor is a motor. But in Quebec, it has a total connotation. Yeah, it's a pretty old emplear, it's certain. So it's for that I said, proprietary of motor and not motor.

Exactly. And I'd just add a card of plus, Historian. Archivist. Archivist, historian. Not of a mission? Of passion, yes.

Of passion, your page of Instagram, the name of your page Instagram? The address is Rebuilt One, but it's History of Motor. History of the Motor. In a way,

all the links. You, and there, you've got to sort of a book, you're on the second volume, History of Motor, O Quebec, volume one,

vest of queer. You see that. So, so, so what's that's a

universe of the motor criminalized, if we can say that, even,

criminalized and no? Certainly, no. Okay. Because that, let's

I'm I'm part in this black hole, let's the simple reason

because the info were very limited on the clubs that existed, the history of

the evolution of the culture, not only these motorcyclists, but what's become the, you know, the band of motor that they applied for the decades,

there, you know, it's what they call, the gang of motor, so there's like, it's like, it, it's, it's, it,

a certain detournement to the criminal, but, But in part-time, it's not that, it's it's, you know, it's it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, I've seen, it's a bit but I've seen, someone who's

founder of one of the first gang of Rue New Orleans. I've seen, and he said, at the

base, we're on the team of soccer, that our vest were red, our chandais of soccer

were huge, we've Park Belanger, and we were a gang who had to be protecting, there were a lot of racism at the time, and all

that's, you know, it's like that the gang of the gang of Belangue has been created at the base for to be able to have been offshy

because their vatement soccer was red, you know, so the colors of the cartier, it's almost the police

that has created the affiliations. So, you know, at the base, it was not that, it's been

that, because it's Echonnes, it's... I think it's... I think it's always the

case, you know, it's, it's kind of the young who's together, a passion or the other,

soccer, motor, music, just, they're going, they're, they're going to be group

with... sometimes, no, but often with an ideal in head, and there,

it's going to be especially, the motor, you, the motor, it's very, it's very

liberty you know, we do so, you know, I'm a fervant amateur of motor I'm a proprietor

of motor, I'm probably the moment where I'm really really really all right because when I'm on auto,

I go to the music, I go to podcasts, in motor, I don't get anything, and I'm jetted

of salle conversation with me on my bike, so, you know, you're trying, you're trying,

you're trying, you're trying, you're trying to get your passion, you search your liberty, and,

But in a minute, in the life, you know, we're going to have a lot, we'll have to have a lot, so we're going to do things that's to make more to take on our bicycles and more time in a shop.

It's the reason that the world has a certain point in their life do, this decision, to, to,

to be back of the group, because, yes, we have to have a life. They have the children,

a woman, you know, the, the, the, the motor, when we do that, the guys, there were

jobs. It was not these bombs. You know, you know, there's a but there's a bomb,

but there's really just, you know, he'd just as for the party. He'd just as

for, you know, but it was, it was, it was, it was the debut of their,

you know, to their adolescence and, being, as a young man, he, he,

he, he'd a liberty, he'd of what to what , uh,

for be accepted, and finally, there are who have been there are people there are those who are debarked

quite quite if you were to turn to watch episode of junior who at the base was a guy just like a guy just

a guy just rock and roll and we're on the bar we're not it's not these criminals it's just

just these guys a bit more let's say we're saying a bit more and that this guy that has finished

by this guy like it's it's funny you can't you can't change more

And, you know, you do that, and reprim, me if I'm a tromb, but, you know, of what I see, I'm not in Quebec, but I'll say, the Hells and Joe's at the base, the creation of the Hells and Joe, it's the guys who'd be to the war, who, you know, there was the fraternity of the

army, and they've got a passion common, the motor, because it's these guys who are that they've made the motor in the army, you know, the first time, and they're coming here, it's all fun, so, so,

we set to buy the motos, we're not guys of the Army, we're all right, we're on the same, and they're talking, especially at this time, man, because there's

not a time to see, so, it, so it's, it's, it's a few on the market, that's a lot, and they're not, but at the bar,

I think not that we're creating that we're doing an organization criminal, hyper-pucentric, you know, that's not,

that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, for a percentage of this model, but, but,

I'm not quite convinced that, that, even if this moment that had not embarked in these clubs

of motor, he would probably followed a other a other chemining maybe, maybe at

a situation, but it's that's a right, exactly, or, you know, criminal, but not

not associated to, you know, to all, a member of the peg, something

or not to do or not to, we know we're not that,

we're there, a part of, of this way that's that's

the party and with that there are the liberty that the class they participate

not. And then do you have the party, it's a job or you have to find

another way. What's he's you've put up there, you know, what's

he had put in to say, You know, in the first is the fan of motor, the fan of a little of a little bit of the world interlop also, you know,

I mean, the film of gang-s-tut, you know, it's not for anything that you know, you know, you know, you know,

the man who's, and it's often the parent who comes, you know, it's a lot, you know, that's a lot,

for this podcast that, it's because I've also a fascination over this milieu that. So,

so, so it's all that that's all that, I've said, I've done, It's what? D.

I mean, I've always had always an interest the world marginal, the subculture, the world interlop,

all the norm. I said, I said, I said, you said, the music, rock and roll,

you said, you've had an etiquette for graffiti, so, so, it's a world very,

on the ground. I've made my few moveve and I 've been been, I've been

a way, and I And when you you view at this fashion that it's

certain that you debark a bit of the society or of what he thinks that you should be

what you're a lot of the sex drag and rock and roll that you have that was you're not

a criminal you're not being a guy criminalized but it's like we say we're saying

we're doing do do party sacocheer and we're just we're some

many things for We can continue to do part of the party. You've made part of these people. But you've got not too cheery there. You're not too implying there. You did what you were to do with your little affair, and you're chasteur, you've never been put in pogny.

I've been, it's been... It's never, pretty control of my life, I've been quite... And we don't more when we reprimed the guitar than when we're down on to a kilo of coke. Oh, yeah, it's not... You know, I've not... I've not made this choice that,

so I'm kind of... I see this moment, the world, of the exterior, with a certain concessance. But as, as I said, as I mean, I said, I've always had an interest,

so, at a moment of a day, you know, we're going to, the aspect that I've marked, and, certainly we're going to

touch it, is the war of the motor in the years of 90. You know, I'm a guy who's made in the

70, but, you, so, too young for the bell epoch of the club of motor so in a

minute but it's certain, live in Montreal, the war of the motor it's,

it's, so it was, it was, it was, it was, it's, it's a markant,

that's that's impressive, but it's not, it's marked for people,

that's, you're, you know, actually , actually, you're, quite

to understand, to understand, I'm, I'm, I'm perhaps not quite, quite

I mean, when we're run to when we're in 2001, you know, Karkajoo, the operation of 2001,

all that you do you have like, the war, I'm a little more young, I'm living in

a long guy, but, you know, there, there was just a, a local at three minutes at a pie

at chie, but it's some people that I saw, I, I, I'd say,

I'd not, I'd like, they'd be, like, they'd be, like, yeah,

cool, you know, but at from what you're really said, I'm sure, I'm creus, I'm interested, I'm doing my research.

So, so let's say, yeah, the year of 90, I'm trying to get the little cuture of the

journals, just because I had an interregn. Allo and Photopolis, I imagine that you're

a part of your question, I'm in a matter. I'm a bad a messiant

collection of alopolis. But, so a a moment of a day, it's But that, I've

I've heard this world of the view. I said, well, it's past to

other things. I'm in playing music, other of other of far. I'm

never, you know, it's just an interest of the time, fast forward 20

years, but no, perhaps, at about 20 years. There, I'm going to, at the

first, I had always a little interest, so I'd read, I'd,

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I mean, I had some the things on the

when it's when it's when it's you're in you're trying to you're in it's a little it's a

question quite a interesting, even for Mr. Madame, all we know, it's choucan

what's what they do you know, so at a moment of a moment of I'm at

to attend the suppos of the names of the clubs the non that we don't

never, we can the gross the gross non but even sometimes we sometimes we

sometimes we sometimes we're we're talking the Popeye because it's because it's been Elgino. We're talking because it's

going to be outlaws. But we never of the little club of region. At a moment I'm going to I'm trying to

a manned of Mombani. Now I'm saying, okay, it's, I know anything, there's nothing,

there's not there's not there's not to do you, I continue to fooier, I'm going to he,

he's got with he, he's made in current with just the interest, me, many, how many,

many, how many, have existed between 1950 and 2000. You know, you part to do that

about about the end of 50, about about because you know, the culture of the culture of

the local exists from the motor itself. And at the beginning, it was a guy who, you,

we can even go to even go and more when the motor had a bike were in

a bike, he had did guys did it did on the flat track, it existed.

So, there a moment a the bicycle, you know, it's, it's, we're going to

make some of the course. So, the guys, there are always the interest in the machine. The machine becomes more

more quick, it's the plus fun. So, like, the clubs were formed because it was, okay,

we're going to go to be going to be and in time, we're kind of we're kind of we're quite,

we're going to be in 20. There have the clubs like in my live,

you know, you know, there were there were there in the years of 1990, that existed, it was not

these clubs of motor like that's quite a bit of but it's the debut. But, you, the image

that we have of the cold jeans, the cold of career, you know, the guys a little

rebel, it's really in the 20, 20, beginning, beginning, the

casket of the casket of a viate too croce, the coat of jeans deschier,

exactly, the vest of the waist of the cuet. We're, it's see, the vest of

because today it's Crue, but, you know, maybe we're maybe, you know, maybe it's these vest in jeans at this time that, you know,

it's... But, after that, it was, it were these guys that were still James Dean, you know, vest of cream,

T-shirt, Blan, the, the mache rouleys, that, you know, it's all all the shoes were not

long, there were not there was but it really, but it was, right that the film Wild One

is out in 53, with Marlin Brando, there, it was like all all

we're parted. You know, I said to say the casket of aviator, it's this image that I haven't the title of the film, I mean, I don't know, it's the image that I had, you know, they're going to put on this style, that, this look, like,

the greaser of the 50, you know, so it's a very, what we call the rockabilly, let's the style very rockabilly at this time, that.

In plain, so, the guys come out, to see, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

I'd say, it's a film a little plate compared to more later, the films that have been out of the very important, and certainly for the evolution of the culture

excessively important. Because, there, we're going to have the young who see a style, and this style is attached to the motor. It's more just, we

do the, you know, the, the, you know, the , the, of the space sportive, starts to get to a, to be a lot, he

comes to say, well, we, we're, we We like more the aspect party, the aspect rebel.

The first gang, when I hear of this word that, we're to hear

because it's the first gang of the Rue at Montreal, it was what he

called the Brando. And that because of Marlon Brandon. It's there's

these guys, jeans, vest of cuir, casket, all the look. What's

the look that today, I'm not a lot. Yeah, it's that. So it's really like, but these guys, there were even

not a motor, it were young, the young of 15 years, 16 years, who were in gang. So,

now we can talk about the evolution parallel, the gang of and the gang of motor. Who came

to motor, motor, the, the, the words interchange. But, but it's certain

that the young have, They've put the mentality of a of a group of gang, and they're transferred to the motorcyclist, who wanted,

just to make the motorcyclists, who were more clean, et cetera, they're other, they want to separate to this world, because it's... They're dissociated,

literally. That's, that's, they're, these, these chris, that's, it's the, you know, these guys that we

don't want associate the motor with. There's a there's a quite a split in the culture of the motor

it's a lot of I'm in the year of the year I'm in not a real to get a chappo when you're in

your name the word rebel it was easy it's easy it's, you know, you'd

not your name that you're having a rebel and a rebuk of the society

almost we're still we're in another time and it's certain that in the

in the 15 it's the last time it's the reprimed the world. You know, the church had

the control quasi total with with Duplessi. So you know, rock and roll it's the music

of the diolbe. All right and stuff were the norm so the young start to say well we

we're we're just we're saying we're on the more to be always to someone to

say you can't you can't to get your casket in the case, so when I a moment they say,

well, like the young going to do you know, they're embarked in this

mode of life and it's it's a evolve, there, he comes to form

what we could say, the club of motot in the image of what he

had in the wild one. So, rebel, but not rendered not rendered

not not criminalized, a bit if he run in a bar, it's

It's a bit more than it's a bit more than it's to get to get to get to get to exactly,

and they're in conflict with other group, because I don't don't know if it's certain

that's a thing, there's a gang, there's not a gang but it's that's a other cartier

they're they're there's there's there's just in the Newerals just in

Newerale, the club of 50 of of youngness at the image. Is there

is, is it was it's with what we called the the colors or

Not even. When they They choicest They chose They used to These crest Often it's They're

Pre-a-Porte That you All right To get in a bout sec Of sport Or of And to

They said Well, They were just It's the Same You go You go to A studio

Tattoo You know You know All right They're They're They're The same

Afts, They're not Andeckes And So the guys, they say, well, that's cool. We're called disciples, maybe whatever. And then we're going to be a dead of mar,

and it's not cheap, we'll make that on the door, we're going to be. Some of the waist of cuir. But, yeah, there had a reassemblement, and there, there had a, uh, a, uh,

a title, there had a, there were a name for their group. It was just the young that's together, it's like, we're like, on the, we're late?

On the, there's, there's, there's, among the, the first, that we've been, met,

met, club, a little of memory in the most years of the years years of the years of years 50, yeah, you know, at

Montreal you have the North Eagles, you have, in the West you had the Raiders, you have, what other,

the, the, the, the, the, the, it was always the number,

you know, not compared to a, part, not, you know, not very,

it's, but, but, but, It's still. Yeah, it's so. But they've

they've chosen these names. There are other who had not no, but maybe between

they said to what? It's certain that there there's not not much information of this

time, a part of a couple of a journal. We don't know how it's

there's a there's it's more to, you know, it's a gang of guys at 18,

19, they're going to have at 26 they've just made, I'm just a woman

of the and you have to shop at six hour tomorrow, I'm going to do you know,

I'm going to a bad and they're in a bad at some bad and when they when they were when they're when they're

getting to, you know, it's embarked in something but the year they're they're going to other friends, they're going to go away

so it so it's, the groups have not long time but what they've done life,

is that certain of these guys are they're getting to get some they're there's

the debut of the clubs, say, often I'm I'm not I'm talking to because I just it's a

rependue at the province but we're we're not a lot of an evolution rapid between these little

gang of voyew who become these clubs of motot again again they're not the look

and again vest of cuir etc but the mentality he starts to change a bit more

tough he starts to They're become a little more they're in 20s. They're more they're more

they're not they're not they're in the years in the years it's been a turn-nought of the

middle of Canadian and proge of New York, all that, you know, we're talking of Richard

Blas, you know, the gang of the West, you know, for all, you know, the main in

in Montreal which is St. Lawrence today, it's the Cartier-Roo. It's something, you know,

there had a lot of contact with the French Connection who had very related to the heroine, we're in the

people who had some of we're in the line facile, you know, the capital of the bank,

Montreal, in America, the north. There was, it's, it's, it'd be, it'd be

there's already heard the chiff, but, you know, if he compared, met, to,

the percentage of what is the Quebec, with the Canada and the United, and the percentage of volleyball bank

it had no, it was there were a bit of that's a bit of that's a week, we're going to back, back, back, we're going to go to St. Adel, we're on

one, after so, we're going to return to Montreal, then I imagine that when you're a group marginalised, and you're in

an universe where's what you be a rebel, and the criminality is extremely present, it doesn't

want to have to find a place, you know. Yeah, there are not many who are part to

that, but, you know, In the meantime, it's certainly at this time, in the 50, the beginning of 60, it's quite quite quite. It's kind of, the guys, they're saying, even all the clubs, you know,

it's really, in the end of the 60, that the clubs are more well. But, before that, the guys, he's, you know, the photo on the live, to, see, all these clubs, all, all, the, you know, yeah, it's, you know, the... But, you know, there are...

I look, I look, and I look at least, and I look at least, he's not, I know, just by the two-pron-one-letter, because the Popeye, Southern Choice, sundowners, yeah.

Destination L, which is, and there, it's a, can't be, this photo, that? 67.

67? Yeah. And there, the term, 1% exist in 67? Yes. I'm,

I'm a bit, for the people, perhaps, who they don't know, in the fond, the clubs of motons,

that we're called out of there's there's a little bit of there's a man who are in the 60s

who's in their little club, but there's a percent, often with the guys who want 1% because they

say 1% of of the motor or the motor are of the motor so the famous

1% and they're they're there's the name but their creas it's just

1% it's it's it's already something was yeah but it's

Because deceivant, because for the, say, 90% of the club at

that in 67, the 1% didn't exist was even in Crest. The guys didn't

know what the people, the people, we're to talk

to the California of this culture that, of the not the clubs

of motor, but the clubs of Mottor, it came to the California,

the we're there back. So it's it's a quite a certain

tendency. For one or the other, the insign one percent he's never

catched. And it's certain that I've got many in the old, but for us

other said, first, we're we're not one or it's not important

we We've seen that and we have copied on the things we got

the 13, it's the 69. It was like just these marks necessary, the croagame, the affairs quite quite

for us other it's the fashion. Well, it's that because you're not, on the front just on the tuesday, the people will be

perhaps by the screen, but it's literally a sign nazi, you have the cross gamet, there's a leg, there's literally a symbol

Nazi, and probably that these guys are not possibly racists because it's the time that it

was not not the Nazi not with the ideology A German, Nazi, I I don't know,

but it's so. It was really not being shocking, like the punk that we're in the 70. You know,

he ported that because that's quite a attire of the attention. It's shocked. Shocked.

In plain that. The club, you know, the 1% was it was not really

completely at part of at Morial you had two clubs. In the font there you

had three. It's like that it It's going to change a little, a turner, a turner, a plus negative, between these clubs that, who were, before that, some of the guys who were

together, but at a moment, there, certain clubs, one, in particular, the Devils Disciples. It's a club that is a long time, that, because it's a name, it seems,

it's, it, it, it exists a year, so, in Montreal, it's, maybe a, dozenes of years. That's the guy

There are the other Devils they're in the other devil's disciples that's

the club of the California, that's exist still. But they're not by the the beginning,

they're other, they were on the one percent. And that because they're

they've learned of a club of Boston with the same name. They they

they have and these guys, they have, like, they've been, they've been, they've been in the life of the

one percent. Okay, so it's not, they're not to go, they're just to know, we have not the same logo, but

we've chosen the same name, we abit at 8 hour, total, and we know, if I'm

if I'm if I'm not, they have crossed, probably, at Laconia or a concert or at States,

because the guys, primarily, the front of frontiers at this point they were open you could have passed, you know,

it's not, there's a problem so, so the guys, they'd voyage often, the guys of Quebec,

they were in States, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, all that, they had often, they had

a moment, they've seen, it's what, that, the 1%? They've learned, they're

there, they're brought to people, they're we're doing, we're just, they're really, they're just

they're just, they're just, it's, it's, they're they're, they're just, they're changed their logo to

to take exactly the main of the same patch than they're in those other? Not to do. It's not true. It's not

affiliated. Because it's cool, because, you I think, if we're, I think, if we're fast forward,

you know, it's a club of Quebec, who's chosen a name, and he cross a club that's not the same logo, but the same name

name. There's, there's a tappseyeyeye that's going to it's bach, you know, you're taking

it's a carnage, that's, that's, that's happened this during all the there,

Oh, well, that's clear, it's... It's so that it's... If you feel just... I'd refer to a film Cult of the Quebec, motor, it's Oshlaga, who, who comes to a camping,

and, you know, it's that, you know, it's a lot of, you know, it's not, because we can't be two clubs with two patches

to the same that can't be able. It's not, and there were also these clubs who had caringly have been in the province,

and the guys are going to and say, if we're going to see, if we're going to really really bad

for you other and it it's it's certain that all the

things that it affects what what what it's what

there there there there's a different language the language

yeah it's a language yeah it's a culture American-angloffan

and when I do that I do that plus the style Hellas Angeles the style

outlaw that that's that's it's kind of you know, to see, it's a

way of the United and it's from a world anglophone. So, you've got no way

or, say, for communicate it was very difficult. The guy, he was he was talking about,

he was being more accessible at that time that's the people, you're not if you're

not, if you were if you were francophone, you'd if it were francophone, you'd

there were there's a little in English and the Anglophone Baraguenay a little of French.

The guy who were in the club who had to talk, he said, okay, we're going to get this guy like

with us all because if we go to state he's able to talk to talk to us. So, so there's certain

that it's that when there, there, the culture so, so, it's,

to, to, at the, to, at the, to, at this fashion that because they

have not access to a good party of this world, because they they're not, excuse,

we're in a little bit of a minute, if in the last you're talking about, it's a big car, because there was a

carmion just at the exterior, we just made a cut to go and he's part. But there, but I'm in

one of the percent, and I'd just get to after we're after we're on chere, sometimes,

we're on on flash a red, it's, it's very so this, but if you're talking, the three clubs,

and there talked to the devil disciples, It's for that we're parted in the 1% and you said me said these three clubs

that it's almost in the 20th there were three clubs there were like they were there were It was a

It was some it was some that were who who were quite with with the other but at a

own own a day like I'm like I'm balked in a mode of life of 1%

criminalized Yeah, you know, in part-time, again, when we're on the 1% it was not criminalized. The affair tired of the A.M.A. An emirte,

mini-emort, that had used in 47, in California, at Hollister. In effect, it was the police who said,

it was the police that was the American Motorcycle Association. We have said, they've been after this event that's

that's a bit grabbuge, they've said it's 99% of the motorcyclists

it's, it's, it 's the rules, it's the bad there's, there's a

law. So, the guys, the people, they're they're they're

they're perfect, because we don't know well, we're we're not, with the

other percentage, the other 99% because they're they're a little too my mare and we're not we're not doing

we're doing we're doing, we're not in current with the 1% so it's more not as well today it's very related

criminalized but at the time it's just marginalised more than criminalised but you know what's what I think

an episode like that in part and to have someone who's that's there's

there's there's there's many there's people who are people who they're they're not

exactly where it's Yeah, it's... You know, it's... You know, I think it's cool to have all of all of this, so we'll understand that. It's for that I wanted an episode

like that, I thought it's awkward and... It's certain that's it's been a... You know, a sign of honor, a sign of... ...theirte, a sign of... ...theircine of a pucence. It's been a tattooage

very rependue, I've been... You know many of the guys who they've been to tattooed also. But... But... At the base, it's for create a separation or designate that someone

not suites not the order common. So, at the beginning, at Quebec, you have very few of 1% because the world, like I said, he couldn't know if it was what, it was, it, it didn't, it was, it, it was, it, they'd be. But the others, they were well,

made explicated, and they've made, yeah, they're, and they, And then, because, there's because, there, we said, the Devils, you know, we're talking about

at about in 65, 66, he's coming to to see that. In 66, it's there, I think, they've had

the lesson of the Devils of the United, exactly. So, they're other, he,

he, he comes to see that, and a day, the Popeye, a other, you, a club,

very important in the story, who is going, we're but who had been a Los Angeles

Exactly. So, so the people like the Popeye have also adopted the

1% because for us they said we're going to be we're going to be able to

a difference when we're a bit more serious we're we're we're our own

rules. So then in 67 the Satan's Choice who was a club of Ontario

were implanted at Montreal. And, they also, it was they were in a percent.

So it started to, it's not, because there's an epoch where it's a time, it's a

club, you know, it's a year, you know, and in the 60, that the clubs come to

have to do other chapters. Exactly. Exactly. Because, before, it's so, the poppeye,

it's, the poppeye, we're not, the toppeye to, you're not the poppeye to the poppeye to the poppeye to

the poppeye to the poppeye, it's a, 15 guys, 15 guys, a club, a chapit, it's us. Chapit in Montreal. After that, you know,

it's... Yeah, it's in the years 60 that's... Because you say, we're... Fent of... Fent... Feree. Three, four guys

who part to Ontario, pung a couple of guys of the Quebec, bing, we're going to... In fact, in... The story of... The story of...

The story of Satan's Choice was the founder of the chapter here, at Montreal. Excuse me, I'm... But, no, no, I'm... No, no...

No, but... ... In fact, we... In... In... The club, St. In Choice, existed, he had been re-nought in 65.

In Ontario. And there, he started to have other chapit, 606. In 67, a guy, he said, a guy, d'I. His name, Rod McLeod.

Okay. he could not be able to accept by by the other club because he was white we're saying

it's a there's a yeah it's there's there's there's there's there's

but in the in the 60 the population had, the population was quite little the, you know,

these afro-canadian you, you know, he had a guy of moto and he wanted to embarked a club

they had He said no, because we don't want to he said, well, I'm on call this. He's on Ontario in 67 during the

St. Inthe's Choice several chapters he's rejoined for a great party. He's he's all over he's over he found

the, he's the who's parted the St. Anne's Choice because it was a club that had

been founded in the 50 he he had after that he's like it's like it's

he's like It's, you know, it's effroned a little, and then, after that, a Harley Gwinden, he had parted in 65. In 67, Rod's on vaugh, he'd find out of Barney, and he said, we'd, I'd like, I'd like, I'd have got, at Marial, it's a lot of the Anglo-Fond, because they were the other who were from the Central South,

and Indie, La Chene, who were quite anglo-phoned at this time. At this time, he said, well, I've got a group. I want to partier a chapit of the Satan's Choice. Finally, Bernie was really

really passionate by this guy that. The fact he's parted to Montreal, all, a new war, in plus, in a party

of a lot of, of all the blacks. He's point there, as he says, in English, he showed class. It's said that he said

He said, I'm serious. You got balls. You got big fucking balls. So he had said, Okay, see good. You're your team. Returned at

Montreal, you're doing St. In Choiselle, end of the year of the 187, Satan's Choice, the sole chapter in Quebec that has never existed

to implant at St. Henry. And I imagine that he's been the president? He was the president. So, president of a

okay, you've got, you've been so, wow. And he had an friend, he's

called, um, um, um, his little, his little it was John O'clock. Okay.

A other noir. So, you have a club that had two black in, a club 1% in Montreal, two black. It's never,

it's never reproduced just to perhaps recently, or the culture is kind of more open, but at this

time, there's a time. There's, there, there, there's, there, there, there are, there, there,

there, there, the name not, I'm, I, but his name not, who was a very,

very, very, very, very, very, but he had never had had ever

had been in that's a patch. Gregory Willie. Yeah, exactly. That's,

who had had been, but it's the only reason, it's because that in the regs, you can't

be not, it's not to be a member a part of a part of, you can be you can be

chum, you can be all the time, but you're never, you'll have your patch and you're

never member official. The regs the regs are Two other at St. In Choice, there were not these regs. He said, if you're a real man, if you're serious, it's that I've got to do. It's impressionant in the 60s.

It's the sole case that I've heard, at that, for this epoch, that, that someone could part to his own own chapter of a club 1% that, that, that were already very rare, at this epoch, but, you know. Because I see that there, there are these clubs 1% in the United All Black I've seen

I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to get in a party organized by a club, a chapit I have the logo

but I'm I remember in photo we were really on local and not everyone didn't, not everyone

was very much but you know I'm saying you can't be blind and so but all the members

it was exclusively it's a club 1% motor It's that. It exists. It exists. But the mix is...

But in the other side, because, you know, I'm talking with... I mean, I was... I'd say, maybe, to that, this, that's a famous showery that,

that I was in Vegas, and I've seen, no, no, no, no, we're... We're not, you know, we're... You know, because I know, you know,

because I'd know some that, that's for so that I'm in this part, that. But he said, no, you know, the morms,

the moms, it's... You can be there, you can be with us, we can't with us. We'll be able to be cool, but you'll never even be able to... It's that. The inverse works also. Possibly that there are these clubs mixed, but, you know, just to be in Montreal, it's like...

But for this epoch, it's the never-vue. So, like, there, it's certain that, they're, they're going with the 1%, but Ontario. So, now, you're a club of Montreal, the Devils, who have applied, the Americans, you have a club at Montreal who have

applied to the ontarries the Popeye they're sure seen, I don't know I don't know exactly where

when they they've been when they haven't been or the last time I'm the chance I'll put

to ask I'll be not posed but I know for us for us it's still for us

they were they're coming to put it the 1% so you're the Satan's Choice you have the Devils Disciples,

you have the Papaya, all the same time, port the 1%. And the affair is that the Satan's Choice and the Devils disciples are allied against the papaya.

Because for us other, they, for us other, the papay not the 1% in their, in their views. Mindset,

in their ideology, you're not, So we're true for you other. If it's true or no, you know, it's,

you know, it's, it's, it's just that for us they're saying, no, we're not,

we're not the real 1% and there, that it starts the chican point. Because, they,

they want that the papoire are't to put the 1% the choice and the devils are

together, so they're they're they can't be able to be so, so at a

shcan point, there had been a a lot of grabbuge. There's a murder in 68 after

several affrontments that had made to a war between the Devils Satan's Choice

against the Popeyes. And, again one time, what's interesting, is that

in this photo that, we see the Sun Downers. The Sundowners were amy, was allied

with the Popeyes. So, we, we're not, you, Satan's Choice Devils, it's enemies,

the Sundowners, because they're... Because they're... Because they're... They're not... They're not... They're not... They're not...

...theirce... So, now, we're coming what they're called the first war of motor between 68 and 71.

There are some that it's... It's a lot of long time, it... There were, at a moment of a moment of there,

there had a... treve, you know, between the bands, it's not not much too, too. Again,

a cause of the more young, who would not listen the members more in and who will

make their name also, who... They've made the contrary. They've made out

because he said, we're saying, we're saying, we're doing, we're going to

get to you're there's been to be going to get, you know, these incidents,

of the, these atollants, the bomb, uh, the world, it was violent when it's, you're really,

that's really, that's really to really the concept of 1% and we're in chican where he comes, there's a business that's meld

in, I think, I'd say, the business really, it was the business, really,

it's, probably that, you know, there's a, there one who has, there one who has a , but it's not,

it's still, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's, also what's interesting,

is that, um, the drug wasn't, you know, it's really in 69 that,

you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, so, so, the, the, the, the, the,

the, so, there's, the, so, the, , you know,

, , Just for to get they'd they'd be some of the peanut

but that's these medicamins you know the upper downer that you had at the time

the mace they were for the depression there's plenty of pillul that it were the

other they'd they'd they'd because it had not the drug, the cocaine,

existed not no the crystal all these affairs it was it was it was

nule part at a a little bit of a year, again a little influence of the United, Ontario, and there we're talking to the choice, it's a choice

devil's disciples, those other people, they're going to say, well, well, you're doing it, we've done to do cash, we're going to do and we're going to do. And, again, there, it's just a minimum of percentage of the clubs. It was really not

the, the, the, the, the, the, the resos, the empire of drug, it's not exist not. The world

can't do be able to they're not really, the guys had not this vision there.

There's just, you know, for us other, the important was like, is, like,

is that cash to me to me to get in the plight in the St.

Collis of Nowhere to do make a money, and that's just the party, not,

you know, if I'm maybe a a little pot, I'm able to be able to be able to be able to be able to

get a question, you know, just this interest that, no vision of we're

going to be a empire not too. Not to even, even the world

says that the war that's the war that the Popeyes and the

devils it was for the control of the drug not it didn't

not. That's it's a other thing that is very difficult to

resolve It's, we've heard these legends, these stories that people journalists, policiers, etc. repeat.

Ah, us other, they've done that, they've done that, it's not right. Because at this time, it's

the vol, it's the racket, the motel, it's, the, the prostitution, Moton, you,

it's there again, it's, the guys, it comes to, the guys, no, but I'm,

the guy, the guy, I'm not necessarily I'm not necessarily of the guys of motor but I'm in the 60

the community it's more that's more we're in the whole, we're in the pre-usurer that's

exactly, we're not in the even the people, they're not, it's only the end of

60 who had come to sell that's that's a it's not something that's not

the gang of the West also it's really the years the years the the Coke

comes to be popular it's it's it's been more paying

to it's been Coke, than the hashish, because, before it was all the H,

they'd say, well, well, pound for, to pound, there's certain, we're doing that,

so, so, he comes to have a have a evolution of, of these

resos and these are, these, are being a empire by the

but, but the drug such-ke that was not quite

not, like, the world say, oh, it's, it's,

it's, the deboche total. At, at at the At the beginning, it was more

a concept to say, you're not not the real, we're not, we're not, we're not, it's,

it's, there's, there's, there's, it's a lot, we're doing, we're real, we're right,

you know, that's, you, it's really, it's, the world, like, we, we, we're,

we're, okay, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, often, very often, the history of the kids,

the guy, you, you, see, he, the guy, the guy, the guy, cruised the same

female my own time, they'd say, at a moment of the day, they'd say, at a moment of the day, we're doing, you're, like, a lot of, you know, and then, he says, it's a norm, an obligation. In fact, today it's an obligation. You can't

say, I'm going to say my BMW with my patch it's not. The day, if you want, but not with

your patch, if we're not with a meeting, if we're there will not, there will be

not a kawazaki in the old, it's not, it's not, no, it's certain

that, again once, it's a another, an other influence American, because

the first of it's the motor American, but also in the 1860, the guys, the Harley, it's rare.

The Harley was the police who had that. Or the army, the Indian also, it was,

it were, it were, not these, not the, people who were, the world who were the,

for the, for the police, you know, like you said, military, so it's

rare, or someone who had they're doing because if you're not I think what I think what's

what's what you think it's what you know of there's they're in there's a

yeah they're going to have a contract and they're there's like the guys they're

that's we're coming to the army we're we're we're we're

because we have run to Rley and again again again again again it's

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm in yeah you're

in you're because Rley Rley has found million motos to the

force Canadian but it's the guys at the people because it was an

important and it was there were there were on English Triumph Mountain BSA I think

it's that there was a Japanese Japanese Tate the guys of the years

the years the Rley were they were they were they were they were

big bagger you with the big shacko with the big sackoce you

what we we're on what we envision What's what What's What they're What's What you

It's like Exactly But it's like it's quite rare because it's difficult to they're

to have the money to pay that So the guys they were in a little motor

to start a to make some some some The chopper the

chopper of the gross forche the guidons he starts to modify

their fashion their means because again the shop custom it existed not

in the 1860 it was very rare the guys they'd often far far their piece if there were

there were there's a exactly exactly I've heard I've heard one of my one of my

amy that's an old one of my he said at the end 60 they're in the end 60

they had at Vermont or at Plattsburgh for he had there's there back,

in a little catalogue he'd say, we're saying, he'd come and they to come and

they're in New York, two weeks after they had a call they because there people who

had people who had that they had said, they had and they were too to go

for the members of the club that they have brought in their fire because they

they all over every every week times because they had been they did us

they're they're to modify the engines English. And certain that there were more of

a way, where they were one, because we, let's say, plus than the drug at this time,

the aspect criminalized, I'd say, was the vows of a motor. The motos that's

very much. I'd say, the, the, the, the most of the guy that I've

knew, they've all of a moment to get at a moment, There's

many So it's so it it's a trafficed often they were they're going

to get to get to you're there there's there we're going to get to

some some some but rather the beginning the

early the money to get to and again again

again again again the influence American to start

to get because there the the voice of communication to open at open.

At the first you have just these people people people people who couldn't

there's there's a review that you know, you know, to start it to get to the end of

60, you know, the pop culture. Exactly so there they have more of

access, so they see how they want the guys want the they're all

these, you at the at least, the Elves in California, there have that there

You know, there were that he wasn't just Harley. It was just more. But at Quebec, because we had more access to Harley, you don't have very few. But at a moment of a day, there, it's, the concessionaires, Harley,

it's aggrandists, the resos, they've been access. There, you start to pognize the, and Harley at a travel the province and the the majority of the clubs, to respond to your question,

I think in 73, 1714, the club, the most group, the most group, who had had to become to what more, they're the regd. Harley, 100%,

not, nothing other. The other, you had, there, these clubs, they were just the Japanese, other, it was just the English,

you know, or a guy had an Arley, an Indian, but it was not, it was not the norm. It was when the clubs,

in the early 70, there, there's a coming to to virate plus, that's the time of the 1% that was implanted

to Quebec, and I don't say by that the Americans, I'm just of the mentality. There, the big gang,

let's getans, the atom, the missiles, the sex fox, the big clubs that comes to embarked, that's

all these friends, not-al, the papaya. So, you're kind of, there, we're in

another world, and we're to start to see, other traject. In the time, you're a

lot of club, you know, revenant at the beginning, when I talked to

my interest, it was just to have the list of the clubs, I'm to get to six hundred

and keck. Wow. Just to Quebec. To, let's say, to 55 to 95 to

15. 600 clubs. We don't know not these associations motociclist the clubs sportive

uniquely of course Clubs optimist of Grambe in the club of motocross I'm not of this

I'm not these clubs that have these cress in the door who have a name that have a

local that have existed for for several years 600 and plus

wow of what of what the And rest of sure, you know, we're

talking, the poppeils are born the Angels. Uh, it's done in a

year? In 77. In 77. Yeah. The poppeye were you really were really

gross compared to rest, because you said, there were the, there were,

you know, and there, you know, there's been like three, four clubs back-a-a-back by me

saying, it's, it's just, because, it's not that's not that the poppeils it's just that there were

more, but there's just that there were, to be more than plus, a lot of people with who he's entended well, so the mass grossy? The alliance,

it's coming, the end of the end of the 60. When there's a little chican pung, and the guys he's made

together, there, you have what, it was an avant-gou of what we could say the club

of the school, the support club that exists, that's really very before that, it was, it's,

the alliance. We're the Popeye, we're all time being with the jitants, we're

other, it's our other, it's our people, if there's there's a way, we're in a

way, we're going to see, the aspect that I've had been, I've asked, it's,

at what at what is the point, is the other people, the other

people, when the people, you know, there were there, you know, several clubs

at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, end of the 60, We're really

of 68, 69. The papaya have you, know, almost 200 members. Oh, that's not, but the Sundowners

also, 200 members. You know, the, you know, the, you know, the Black Spider,

almost 300 members. And at this time, the papes, they had more, because the guys,

have been to be back, after, after the war with the devils, there's a lot of,

it's a bit intense, it's, it's too for me, you, I go, it's cool.

So, like, the Popeye were in Chiffre were not the big, you know, but reputation and, you know, the people said, ah, no,

the Popeye, it's cute, it's, it had been some of the serious there down, we can see, what's coming

by the press, it's certain that the American, you, they, they, he, he,

he didn't care anybody that, so, so, so, so, so,

so, it, it was, it, it's not the, but at a moment of a day, it was one of the big big. How it's

how the poppeys do they're whether they're the poppeys is that it's the Los Angeles, is that the New Jersey because they want

to be implanted to Canada, or Quebec? At Canada, is that it comes to Quebec? All, all what

is what is what is what is what is all, it comes with the relations, the amitiers,

the connections. So they're other, the Popeye, talking to us other than in the years of in the years of 70, in those other, in 69, they've got

encountered the chapter of Lowe Mass who were the first chapter of the Elz Angels on the coast based on 66.

Because at the base, it's that, it's from California, the Adonjoules. Sonny Barger, who is the founder of the Los Angeles it's in California.

Again, again a At the beginning, you know, mid-Suxenten, end of the 1970, the Els Angeles of California with Sony, starts to voyage a little at the United

to find if there were there were the clubs that valet the same to be striker, to be prospect for eventually to be a chapit Els Angeles.

And there, we're just to states. We don't, of Canada. It's not, It's not, for us other. For us, for us, for us, for us. For us, it's not true.

We're not totally, and then, we're not in general. We're in general. We're in general. We're in these igloos, that's what they think. Exactly. So, we're on a day, but what's that's what they're , excuse, the

chapters American, and, especially, Lowell, who are in the east, who are less, are more of Canada, are they're at-coct, and they're the other, they go to La Coneya, who is the more rally

of motor, in America of the North, maybe to the world. And then it was the place of

a place of a country, it was more than proche, all the guys of Montreal, they all the

guys of Ontario, the States, they had an affair in your year, it was special trip

because, you see, it was the great party, the course, so, and then these

encounters, you'd try to find some of a day, the papai, he croas, in 69,

he croas the else. jazz a little, it's a it would be to turn to

the vinegar because and it's certain that the tension of the has been that the

papay had red and their color they're red white the hells too red and

they're they're other if you put the red and done yeah

it's finished that's it's right the beginning of the age 60 it's so

it's so but it's but you but you're okay you're you're in you're

it's correct so it's not that you're not you're not and you're no and the little

the little the little green starts to be to plant that we there's

there's there's there's there continue to do the party the next

the next years but But no intention to part a chapter to Canada. That's

more the members of Lowe who'd had to say well, you're saying, you're saying,

you're saying, I'm not the word in French, but he comes to you know, you start to check

what they do, get, to be verified. You keep an eye on. Exactly,

exactly. He starts to, and they're impressioned of what they're he

he's they're people their business that's to roll it so at a moment

a moment of the it's it's it's a lot to be a bit

more serious it uh it's it's early the end of

the 70 but there had been there was the chican between the

popai and the members in a party by after after and you

it's all to come to there was there was there there were some members

that they were not in the whole he said okay we're we're doing

it, that's it's not not much but it might be going to get

after a couple years after it repran we need we we're

we're to and we know it's prospect we're we're

we're we're so again again again it's not the

idea of Sonny Barger it was the of a member

of the old that's called Doc and you have also Sandy Alexander at New York you

have to understand that the Ells is divis you know coast west coast east and you

see what is in the time what you had in the year it was a

year all all all the east was not controlled by

Sandy Alexander and New York. New York, is the equivalent of Oakland. Oakland, it's the chapter, you know, the gross chapit

California, Dells, Cotes, it's New York. So, New York he starts to say, okay, we'd

like, we'd be able to and again a other they're certain that they would, you know,

the, you know, the port of Montreal, he'd At New York, in plus, you know, I mean, there's a big link, if we go to the mafia, Italian, between New York and Montreal, there's already connections that are.

So, if they're in the world interlopped of New York, they know that there, there's a... Montreal is a good, you know, in this world, so. So, he says, well, it's... It's... It could be what. It could be done something. Because, yeah, in the 1970, it's...

Yeah, the passion... The passion... the passion of the motor. but it's that, there's there, we're in a

middle where the money, the business, is something that's for a point of

a percentage of the world there, they have they have the interest at the exterior

of the motor. It's, it's, it's still some but for us other

it's like, okay, we're not say that it's all people that's that's not

that, it's not not true. When the world say, it's the gang,

it's these clubs criminalized. It's like whatever what, like the government.

The government, there are there's a criminal there's a there in the club of motos,

there's there's not all the world. I don't I'm wondering at a point you

there there's there there's there there's that's we're

we're we're we can we can't we can't say that's that's all the people

there's in there's a and again again again with the motor it's we're in even if all

everyone is criminal even if they're not, even if they're not, the reason for the Adjans jobs have wanted this was not

for the passion of the motor no no, the people you know New York there were

there's interesting to have a chapter because we have some people that are there that will be there

there that we're in In the meantime, our logo, our crest, our club will be there, but there's a line of directress

that's, it's a new territory for us so he'd say, we'll be, we're going, we're going,

we're going, we're going, we're going, at part of the United, there had one chapter of New Zealand

who had been found in 61 by a azor complete, that a, some, some members,

are going to, are going to, are We've been to go to States, and they were going to see, I approve. So it's partied the same that it's a partied to the same, but it was a hazard complete.

So you had really just, those United. And there, he comes to have, okay, there, there, there, there, there, there is a legend that, because at this epoch, in the 1970, the most group, the second-plus-group in America of the North, it was the St. Saints Choice. It's there's behind the

Els. It was really, there were the legend that the ELs had tried to approach the Satan's

choice and the Saints they said no. Okay. Because we're we're Canadian, we're we're fared,

it's a thing, it's that's not it's not it's not that's serious I can't you can't

you're that's the wordi that you're that's But there's a certain verity to that that's

that's there was a interest for embarking in Ontario, because for embarked in Ontario

to absorb a club that was in gross expansion already gross, exactly.

They're they're saying, we're going, we're going, we're going to put on Ontario,

and the Ontario, there had more of more than in Quebec. You know, there's

on the business, there can we're kind of, we, we, we have the bits, we have

all the this world but Ontario there were there's more of more of money to

have been but it's not much the Satan's choice at this time at the time

were close with the outlaws who's a very big group and who's

he's not not so that all that's not that's not actually

finally what's what's what's the the the the

with the Popeye. So the first chapter, Els Angels on Canada, it's in Montreal? It's in

Montreal. The first chapter on Canada. It's in Montreal. It's that I didn't

sure. I was sure. I knew that the papay had been direct of the state or

if it was already implanted to Canada and it had a there were

a 30thens of people so, so you know, we're talking in 68,

609 300, yeah, some, some, the centen to At the end, the end, the guys had the choice

if he wanted to be striker, because he's still for quite a striker for a year. Fatsy class. Exactly. So, a good part, they don't do no. There were these clubs

that had not been accepted. And finally, they're getting with a 30then of a guy. Is that the poppeils are

rested and they're not? No, it's so you've become Elz and Jals or?

Yeah, the poppies exist. It's not. It was like, okay, we're trying, all the everyone, all the people, everyone had the choice. Rended there, you know, at 75,

76, we know, 80 members at the time, we're having, Agatino, at Three Riviers, Rive Sud, Laval.

Okay, so, Leia, it's not a, it's not a chapter, it's been, some chapters, the people part-time. No, no, no, I'm not,

no, no, I'm not, Yeah, but I was going to be... No, no, it's that I said. You know, you know, there were all the chapit that were still five chapters. There had been more of chapit than five, but at this time, there, there were, there were five.

So, all the members who were... The chapit had been runned more pretty. It was like, you know, a dozen of members per chapter. So, 10, 12. So, we're ended at 70 members, in total, in five chapters. The real, the, you know, the...

Leot. So, they're those other... he had the choice. So that, to say that, he would have 70 striker for the

Los Angeles in 76. But, finally, it's been a 30thens. For many reasons,

the guys, there were a bit more, but the guys, they've heard that that, it's serious, it's not,

you know, it's just to promontal on motor to, you, They're going to have been a little bit of dope.

It's a lot. That's a big league. So, there's, we're, we're, we're, we're,

they're, they're, they're, they're, they accept just the top. So, so,

it felt like, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's, that's, not, that's, not, that's, it's, to,

a lot, so, they're done a, a 30- , a 30- , a 70,

17, , they're Hells Angels Only unique chapter for two years after

that the famous North Laval in the fact that the 30 that's because the

30n that it's reduced at about 28 let's say runned in in 79

maybe a bit more there's a there's a bit of chican you know there's

there's often the chican in the intern also it's difficult to too old leave, so we're going to do, well, we're doing, we've got

to doze. It's not a question of really too de channe, but it's just that, okay, these guys, they're, they're more on their own chapter, we're too gross at Montreal for having gerry all this world, we split, they're all, you have your

dozen of members, we're going to a 15th, and that's it. So, there, we're rendered with two chapters, but at least, the sole is unique. In the same time, you're St. Inns Choice, Montreal,

including, and some chapters of Ontario, to Vinley Outlaws. So, there, enemy jure, are in the

same province. The enemy who were in the enemy, when it was Popeye and Stent's Choice in the

60 and 70, there are rendered out of the American who are also.

The war has continued, it's, you see, it's just the environment that has changed, but the attitude is

kind of, okay, we're outlaws, you're at Els Angels, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a new, the second year that had used

between the, the club, Popeye, Devils, in the years 60. There, there's,

Ends, Angeles, off. Ends 70, the years 80, outlaws, El's Angeles.

And then, And then the other that we've conned after, it's Els Angels, Rock Machine Outlaws, he's not in Quebec,

if I was just been sure, I'm just sure. So, what's what was going to do you see to see

to this war that? Finally, the these Outlaws were not as a strong,

for, for, you know, it's, it was a chapter, it was not like,

Ontario, where they had, you know, four, five, six, six,

six, six, six, chapter of proche. So it's not all the Saints

Choice who are doing the not as there's there's there's also a division

because there was the chapter of Satan's in 77 before that the Popeye

become else it's the choice that's the choice in a few months

but there's there were there there were there's there was there was

like, no, it's they're like, they're people, they were not

doing else and no more they had approached. You know, we're Canadian,

that's it, we're still we're still, we're still, but Morial it's a of the club who had

voted, yes, for the outlaws, but again a lot, it's not a people who are there's people who

have been that's if I'm with two pistons in a car, that's a place,

that's the right, so that, there's these two clubs there but Morial

was a little little away, because the the chapel the chapter the

the It was at Ottawa. So, you have more to have more to be more to be in a world

for, to back the war that the war that's for, it was it was a

certain control of, and of, and of, yeah, and of, of stupfiant, of dancers,

the, the things, you know, that had the, the, so, there had some,

but, finally, the hour-l- -l-l- there were, you have not the number. There were not the

Chiffes for combat the Elts So the Outlaws You know, there's There's been There's been a lot Of course

During this war during this year, plus the Outlaws than I end of the end of the

80, the Outlaws disappearette They are just Ontario or they're still they're

They're they're not much They're it's a great club to

Because we we know many, you know, the Alz Angels because it's very present in Quebec.

Certain will connect the bandidos at cause of the end of the war where the Rook Machine is

become bandidos but, you know, the Mongols, the Hald are, it's these clubs

enormous at the world wide, and it's very, very gross. So, we've got

we've got had this second year. And then, at a moment,

it, it's It's going for some years. The beginning the end of

the end of 90, again a first, the control of certain the system,

you know, there were, surely the people who he knew a bit how it that's

there's there's there, there, there's a balance that there

certainly when when, you, Kotron Ruezote, you, the,

you know, the guy, he'd But, look, the war, it's not good for what we do. It's a bad. It's not bad. It's a bad. It's a lot.

We'll pay for the war. It's a cost to do you. You know, you're saying that's a security, it's a watch, you have a need to be. Exactly. When you're going to pay, you're not. So, you know, a moment of the day, there had all these handshake deal.

All the moment is like, okay, that's your territory, we want that. All right. it's beautiful. It's often for a often a connery,

it's a same, there's a one of the people who don't know why we don't,

why we're not a need to have the, so the negotiations start to get to

and the world starts to say well, why we don't know we're not the control

he's also. Why we're we're to get to that when we're

having to that when we're It's not a lot of often the aspect of one or two, you know, person in a club,

in a government, you know, a business that will, who will say, well, I've got other intentions,

and it's not necessarily to do the thing, because the balance that existed, everyone had, there were,

there was no violence, it's all we're content there you know, you know, I'm more

more, I'm more I'm more more, you know, there's we're having the third year,

you know, the, the, the great, the famous the famous the war of the motor

you know, the years and that again, it was because that, because of the entente

who had been neglected or had been not, not respected, Not not respected.

And it's that that's a, that's a nuy to these

alliances, and it has been also made that the world interlop

had not the choice because again when we talk the

car machine people say that's a car of

motor the rock machine it's an alliance it's

a very few of motor such that the

Rock Machine had even not the vests, the crest, just at 1999, just before he'd

be in Bandy'sos. It was the first time he'd really, the color, it was the end of

90, before that, there had these bags, there had these chemise, there were

there, there were there, there were, there were, it was, it was a other,

there were, there, there were, the ancient Devils Disciples who He had

part of this alliance, the guys who had had business, you know, these boys of night,

the same, he said, you know, you know, you know, you're doing, you know, so we're

so we're group up group, so it's, it's been created here or it's a club that's

a year, and it's had been, the first chapter, because I know because I see

there's again, it's a, it's, it's by non, say,

they've, they've, they've, they've, they're they, they're, There's not, there's a lot of people who

they're playing more serious because it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, but the rock machine, yeah, it was,

at the beginning, it was, a, a business that vander, they were, in 84. Okay.

In 84. Okay. After that, they've opened a bout, a boutique, rock machine. That, it was,

that's, it, these, uh, the, uh, the, brothers who

have parted that and after that, you know, the guys

he had already did because he were in the club, the Merciolus riders

and other club of the corner but it not really it was

not a club of a model tell they it's

just the rocker so we say okay we

we we go we we're it starts to move out of just the business of of the vans of the frock of cuir, and, you know, these boots.

So, it's certain that there it starts to have a rule of an roulemen of money, and other see that like, why you're not supposed to do it. And then, to the other side, there is a club that and who is puissant with people at the head who have these great aspirations

so, so the other will be to be affiliated to try to be able to be able to get to be

to be, you have a name, you have a cross, you have a logo, and we're

we're going to have an name, a crest and a logo for having to be able to demonstrate

a certain power and a kind of groupment in the but I say

when we this famous war of the motor it was really

a war of the Els Angeles against an alliance interlop. It was not the motor against the motor really.

There were there were these groups associated to them, but that was because it was some of the

people who worked to work to work to work to but again we're

we're we're we're there some they're not correct that are

not factual we're We're because it's more easy, it's more flashy to say the

war of the war of an alliance of interlob against the Elz-Angels. But I want to be

to ask you don't know because we don't know on Quebec to say to Elz Angeles

without to Maurice Bushet Morris M. Boucher. There I

put the question, is that is an alliance in war against the

Angels or it's an alliance in war against Mombuchy. The two. But, but, yeah,

it's he kind of the tinsel you, who, he, he, he,

he, he, he, again, you know, I, you know, I,

I'm a, to my expertise. Of, the club, of motor, of the aspect

historic, but, you, it's, you, he, it's, the,

it's, gang that he wanted for his proper reasons, his own ego, the fact he wanted

to make the money, he's partied in current with with, you know, he passed

not really at the club, at the complete, because he in his head,

he said, I'm, I'm doing what I should, I should, I'm done to

he, he will me see, but, to say, to There were some

there was a lot that in that was not content of what he did, at the beginning, you know, we're at,

at the intern? At the internet? At the internet? Yeah, at the internet. And then, after,

after the war had been finished, there's a person who came to say, look what you

have said, you're parted in prison. We're we've had been there's been too many

of time, time, of the and in the fact, it was it was it's all

for it, and we, And we've heard a part of what we had, or if

we had a bit of respect, we have, of the society, what is, what is, what's

it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, the, the,

the, the, we're, I'm, on, I'm, I'm, in the

public, the, the, the, all the law, are, the, all,

the, there, it was, it was, it's impressionant, hey, you know, it's, the world, it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the pressure popular,

who's made, you know, because it had no sense, when we're talking to, the, you know, of a young who's been to get to get a jeep explodes, of a guy who

can bring a serverer for, like, a, you know, and, you know, if I'm, you know, I think, you, he's been destitue when he was in prison,

in the sense he had been retired from his incarceration. But even, you know, in camera,

of what you have said, with all the people, with all right, it's not a person, it's not a

person who, it's a passionate of a gangster, it's a criminal, it's just that the cartier where he went,

to the where he was that, he had access. It's so, and he he had, he did the

way, he had been, he had part of a club, the SS, you had been, he had been,

he had come, the But I think At a moment At a moment For he, it was It was finished

A motor. It was just a courois to He wanted to He had There were There were Other people, you

He said, Other to him But also, you know, There's still, There's There's some There's people

who have To get Tue At the Intern, At cause of these actions

And at Cause to Maybe Maybe that they he, you know, he'd with him, or he'd

he'd not in all he'd in all the decision, that'd still come to come in

a lot, and there's there's people who's disappeared. Because he'd not, okay,

you're not in line with the chef? You've got my vision, you're not with my vision.

That's it, you're all. So, so, so I think, so, I think, the, the affair

of, the, of, of the Brotherhood who's called the fraternity and it's

it's a It's not I'm not a bit, because you know, I know the members you know,

the more the more clubs, and they have a fraternity I don't say, it's,

it's rendered all the savages that's just for us and they're they're in callous

but there's there had a moment where it has been dilued a

part because the actions of certain people on nuy at the image and the rentability?

And, yes. Because a man, it's a question of more than than a question of

a good, you know, there are some people, there are in this direction and it's like, okay,

we're, we're doing, at the at the beginning, it's, we're we're

we're, we're, we're, we're, you know, we're, you know, we're,

you know, what, we're doing exactly, the motor, When a moment of the guys S. Elovenue, and sometimes, you know,

when I was talking with the ancient members of many people, he'd say, there's a club, you have a club at the interior

of the club. The subgroup. The subgroup. It's like, it's like, okay, a little click here.

But that's in all I mean, if we're talking of mafia, you know, the most part of when you're a chief

mafue is because it someone in the time that's probably someone of the other bar who, I mean, I mean,

exactly. Exactly. So, yes, there's always a certain division and the people who played against

the other. But the most part of time, it's like resolute in the intern, but there some, it's

it's been, it's been, what we're talking to the arrival of the bandidos which has been

quite in the universe Quebec- it's just a rock machine who have been they've

wanted to, they've wanted to go the support, the backup, so they're to go to go and get to the club, which were the enemies

jure at 3,000 kilometers of sight, but it's... Very, very powerful. They're very powerful. Oh, yeah, the bandito, it's something to... But for Quebec, but it's something that's a...

But I think, yeah, for us other, it was like a... That, it's... The demarchesche for to go to get the band d'histo it was a few years before the end of the war. But, yes, he'd searched

they were They'd get the people because he knew that he'd get to

but just for it's certain that in seeing what all what it's impressioning

that's impressioning that the rock machine to restate also long time all right there was just there was

there was a mafia you know there's a gang who had a a bit there was a

little just a little nooyo of world, it was not, you know, it's even not a hundred of guys, at traverse all. So, you'd say, well, they're on, can't

mean... Yeah, there's a lot, like you said, the associations that, like, very, very, very, very, very, very lured, there, in the milieu, criminal, Quebec, which... Well, at a moment, he,

he'd, you know, if we're continuing, but it's not marched, the banditios, for many reasons, but, you have, you know, there were, even, at the banisos, there were, that, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that we'd have because we embarked in the war of

someone of another, why? What's we go going to after? And the irony

is that the time that, the person that were the top of this club that

are on top to the bar. But there you know, there you see that,

that's the aspect business. Business. Because you talk to Brotherhood because,

you know, when you're Brotherhood, it's like, no, no, I'm more

for my color, if we use these terms of, you know, I'm for my color, and finally, there's there's a question of business that's like, yeah, we're not, you know, and I'm received, you know, I've seen, you know,

there's a lot of people, you know, there's a lot of, you know, they've got, you know, they're getting, you know, because it's, you know, people, you're just, definitely, people, you're just, you're probably, you're, there, you're got to do my chums, I'm going to

make their, you know, so, that, there's a, so, it's, it's, it, there, it's, it, it's, it, Of these purges internal and all, you know, this world, they've said, you know, it's the sole way that's the only way for my survive, but also, you know,

to rest in my affairs. So, yeah, in the regs, say, it's, it's bizarre to do it but they've done and that, and that's,

it's something that they would have never passed uparavant. We're, we're talking, you know,

to know, to tell person is arrested, club-ecolle, club-ecolle, club-ecolle, we're often, club-ecolle, club-ecole of members of club-ecole-le-le-le-le-chap, it's club-ecoe, it's something that we understand enormously.

Is it, is that it's a lot that, it's, it's the club-ecolle, in the sense that you're a club, you're not a member, if we're going to talk, else-in-joules, let's-it,

you're not a member, else-and-joules, but you have your club, it exists, we accept, we support, we have some of the job, we're working,

you pay, I'll try to, we'll not, we'll get to, that's, we're not the person, but, you know, the club ecole,

you know, it's at a part of where it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, because it's, it's accepted, it, it's tolerer, the term club ecole,

that, that's, that's, that's, that's unique in Quebec. Okay. What he

called plus at the world is a support club. Okay. You know, where he said often puppet club

that the world in the people in this world, he doesn't, because it's, they're not, he doesn't,

he doesn't, it's not, okay, we're not we control to what you do what you do,

because I've seen often these guys of club with, let's, let's, let's,

let's, stickers on their motor, on their car, so support 81, which is 81,

8th letter of alphabet, the first letter of alphabet H.A. Elzenjo It's,

so. But, it's for, what, what's the, the club in school,

we've to reven at the whole, in the years, in the years, 60,

again one of 70, there was the B.C. Because you have an

MC, motorcycle club, and you're a B.C., it's a bicycle club.

Okay. So, that's the little young who wanted to be motor, or they'd gore the guy from the cartier, or their grandfair were there in there, but it were young, 13, 14, years, 15, and they'd roll in, you know, in a little Mustang, you know, the little velo. But, you know, I'm a guy of Lowrider.

I'm part of a club of Lowrider, and there's a lot of bike, but who's devenue something of the members, because I know, and they're basically who are costing 15,000, you know, but at the bar, It was the kids. It was the young who were young who were with the old racer

with the old with the old Mustang, exactly. But it's a same concept. It's what they're the muscle bike

like the mini chopper but it's a pedal so you have the little young who would be motor or who

who would see that you know you're the same phenomenon at New York with all the gang of the

in the 1970 I don't know if it's did what but all these guys had these crest and he

had these these vest in jean but it was there were the gang of the room but he had

the appearance of the motor so he had just just he said just not a motor

it was often it's it's a street gang they were but it but it's not like

they're being to be able to the fashion in a track suit and these

things and they're not like the jeans not with a manh with

it's they're not they but it's not not the guys they were not

same phenomenon pass to Quebec, the B.C., the little kids, the little

young, he wanted to be motor, but he was too young, there were not a

motor. So, there, we're talking, the first club school,

because the Popeye had their proper BC. The Devil's Disciples had,

so all the clubs that were quite a part at this time, we're talking,

in the end of the end of 70, they had their proper pretty,

you know, their club Junior. Their club They do even often I imagine these

men, the clubs usually. But often these children like they with the

it's worse than the adult in what they were we're really, you know,

at this point that, it's kind of these, you know, because they are very

young, it's, it's, it's very, they're they're they're

not, you know, so, so, so, so, so, so,

that's the same, it's the same principle. I mean, the big guys of gang will use these young for their coup

because they're more of the troops, are more influential, they're more their preve, you know, I think at this time that it was more, by the other, just, for me

to advance to a little, finally, the club of motos like the papaya, the Devils, have made fin to BC because it

had tried too of attention inver the club of motor. The police he'd found a a few of 14-year

who came to, you know, to volley that or to bat a hotel or, you know, to make a few at that. And, oh, he'd

see, you know, a creed papai or, you know, a variation of that, so he'd say, well,

finally, it's, it's, but there were a lot of in New York, a lot of, of B.C.,

of club, uh, the gang of rue, but really with a style motor. So,

so, so, so, that's the debut of the club because

it's it was a club of motor who had he accepted and said you're

you're you're in you're with us we're after we're another the second

thing is the alliance the alliance between certain clubs and other which were more than just

the amitia like you as you said at the you know there were like the

papel that were the other club who they were when he had when it's

the first war or the second year, that's that's the other people, it's for that I'm saying,

it's not that's the part of the club, you, certain of their club, who had, they were with in the

years 70, are done these Chapit Dells by after. So, you know, when they

have, they've said, well, you have stayed with us all this time that, the,

you have been the decemies, so. So, so we, we have, we have, the,

we have, the, that's the first, if we can say, club-ecolle, after that we have the alliance in the time. So, there,

we're not, but there, there's not a club-ecolle like, we say, you're the clubs-ecolle

are created by the group. Now, it's so, they're, they'll, they'll be

to say, a guy, hey, we'd be able to be in the chapter, Elz and Joel,

but if you do you're a club, you're a gang, you'll be to be a club ecol, you know,

so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, so it's, they're created, and they're going to be created by

on-in-off for... But, but, but, but, before, it's like,

we're, like, the, the papai, at the time, were the chitans

of Sherbrook, but in 84, the jitans, who existed until in in 84, are given

the chapter of Sherbrook of the Elz Angels. But it were the people, the papai

, it's so, So it's, it's like, okay, we'll be able to be able to be able to many of the members who are trying to have seen as well there's, you know,

the idea to make a chapter in the sagney at a moment of a day else, it's not marched with these ancient missiles. So you're

kind of, the relations that exist are, it's not necessarily of these clubs but it's kind of these clubs

support. Supporte. You know, okay, we have We need of what? We have our

resos. You're doing things for us we're doing this We're doing We pay a cut at the That's like that

It's like that It's like that We're like that So, it's The little young, the Clubs, the Aliers

After that We're We're going Incels, It's, It's the first, I'd say,

that had existed to Quebec And again It's a club that existed already it was the evil ones

who came to Victoria Ville that's a club that existed in a name there, there

there were there were there a moment then at a beginning it's so at the first it was

really we exist but we're we're we're we're we're we're

so on a moment a day it's it's it's the chapter that the

of the village, okay, we're on their place here. There's

like, there's like, there's years of the transition between the

club who were the evil ones independent, what we could qualify

as the first club in but I say that in parenthes in parenthes

because it's not exactly it's not created at 100% but it's just

okay you're the number one our club Eka, our club our club

more one. After that in 89 you're in 89 you're the Joker's Wildcard

who a year after became just the Joker's that's Mum who had Yeah

I'm it's because of my question it's on my side when I

when I when I when I knew it's people who that's let's say let's

And, let's like that's like the second club, again a other one way, in parenthesis, because

it's a little serious because they were saying, you know, Joker's Wild Club it existed independent, amy with the

Elds, but we're all of a one of a old, well, I'd like, I'd

rather than you you'd be a filer. You're, you're, you're really in our

circle. So, So, there... If you fuck with the Joker, it's like if you fuck with the else. Exactly. We got your back. That's the...

That's the club, I'd say, the Joker, it's really the transition between what was before these clubs amy who are like, there you're really like,

you're like, our... A, you know, a... A prolongment, let's say, exactly. You're the more

but you're not the members of the member of our club. After that, a couple of years the famous rockers

who are, you know, it's at Montreal, that's it was the first club school

created at 100 percent, again one by Mambuchet by the Los Angeles for the house...

That's not a club that existed, that they were that's a club that's a club

it was a club with the Rockers is that the name, the club

existed in the years in 78, in 70 founded in 2016 and in

78 the Rockers of Oshlaga Mezoneuve are given the second chapter of the last year

I'm an minute I think I thought I'd I think I thought I thought I

didn't I'm there there was a club in Montreal that was who were

who were the Rockers but it's it's been it's been it's been it's weird

that's it's a bit of fast forward the mom he's created a club rockers even no

but who is you think you're saying it's like to be a good a good a boy a bit of

a lot of a word of I think of what I'm there's I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

we're not we're not it's not it's makes sense it's it's a sense. I'd say that. I'd say that. He

could know, sure, that it existed. Anyway, we're talking to, the Rockers, but you, you, there were also the Death Riders of Laval, a club that exists from 66, which is no, but he had always allied with the Popeye

and the Ells. And it's been, at a moment of a day, when they've opened, when they're having, when they're in 2000, it's become the chapter north of the Rockers. Okay. So, like, the

club school we develop other chapters also yeah, I'm like there's like,

there's like, is like they're in fact, if they exist because it's really like really, I'm not

embarked there and I'm and I'm not that's not that's not that's not that's I know,

I know, certain people who are there's a there's a there have a three rivary, there's there at

Therbonne, but it's the same, you all the all the club, at my connoisseau, I'd say,

all the clubs that have existed in the 90 and the beginning the years, the club

e-cola exist no. There are not, they've been replaced by other.

D'Ot non- of clubs. There's there are many more more more than

than, you know, you, you have more than more of club support,

you know, more of club school but there there's a in each territory,

in almost every village you have, because it's a new, it's that's, it's, you,

it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the club, who have existed for the decades, of the years,

the else, there, it's, there, it's changed. Now,

it's, in, okay, you have, so, you're, you're, you're,

with us or it's finished? Is it you're in contact or you've been in the last years with

the clubs that are just not a percent? And there's the image that they have, we know, we're trying

we've got a patch that we're a patch to, there, there's, you know, there's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, I mean,

I mean, I know, I know, I know, these clubs that they do they find to find out of to get, it's zero criminalized,

but the logo, especially in Quebec, it's so implanted, you know, you know, you know a guy that's a

shirt, not a manche, I, when I don't know, what I'm trying, not because I'm going to

get an emotor, because when you do the motor, the career, the one, it's a couple because he can't even

pretty fresh on a motor, it's someone who's not too, but a rock also that's on the chest when you're in t-shirt

and if you get to get to get to get in the crepe protect more than a t-shirt but you know there's this image

that's a plus you're a vest not a munch with a logo a non and a little and a little you know

it's like you want to you'd have to you'd be to put a no no I'm it's

it's it's uh if I'm off at the two bar if you're not on motor you're not you're not there's a

clubs who are like, hey, we're not exist more because of this or we're low-key or we don't have not a crass

but we're just on the gun of motor, we don't, because it's too associated to that's negative. There's a,

there are all some of the stuff. If you're having a club, if you have a permission.

Even if you don't a club. If you you're not if you're so that you're to have

many clubs that's there are there's there's other, they have, their crests, it's one piece. Because, you know,

traditionally, it's the banana on, the banana in the bottom, and the, the, the, image of the center. So, we're talking, you know, the name of the club, the logo of the club,

a little, the world, there's a, all depend on it's those states, it's a, it's a, a, a, Canada, it's a province, it's,

it's a state, and there's the MC and then there's president vice president Sir John that arm whatever 1%

but in the but in the three pieces that we're exactly that's a three-piest that's that's

for having that for having that not even in the even in the you have to come to mind

to come to come if it's correct they're going to say yes you can't have these

colors that you can't have to have to tell and tell affair but at In Quebec, we have

many of R.C., that's a riding club. It's a logo complais, it's a

patch, point, a three-section. Because, you know, to be, being a badass on a

motor with a crust, the world are attired by that. So, if they can't

come in it, you have a question, is that the world, you know, the world, you,

you know, that, you know, that's, there other who you know, what he the weekend warrior is a little You're in mind

you're affiated with your gang and say hey guys we're we're all we're all right like a club of New Beetle they're going to be a little bit of a

I'm a guy of lowrider I'm a member of one here this is a car club and we know we have a total we have a lot of the plaque

chromed in our car with the crease of the club we're coming it's fun we go in an event we have all

our chmise with the logo of our club because it's an appartanance, it's a fierce, you know, I'd say, so I'm pretty, I'm trying to ride the same week, they're at a gang,

they're in a lot, it's fair, you're getting, it's a gang, you know. It's just that it comes with certain, it can be problematic with, so with other club of motor,

or with the police. You, if you, you, I, I, I, I, a, I, I, a tete of mort, you, see, so,

on my frock, Tangine, completely destroyed. If a policeier pass, he will check rapidly, okay, there's nothing to mark, it's correct, you know, but it's atterant to

see that, so you'll say, ah, he will be to ask you the question. So, Mr. Madam, who just roll it in group, social, they have well

the right, and their other he wants to be arcelled because they're on motor. That I, there are other

people who who want to have more the image bad ass but are not run

to do the next step but if you want to if you want to get to the next a club

school or a club support there is pass by certain voice you have

to they're they're they're they're they're they're saying that

they're they're that's and if you pass period probatory, you become

a MC, but you're always associated. And you go to be you go to by the police at 100%

even if you're the best you're sure, that's sure, you're going to I've learned, I've learned in fact,

a lot, but you know, the MCRC, I had never made the line, you know, I've seen

like, I, I, I, know, I, I didn't, I, I'd never never thought the the logo,

but I never thought of to look at the It's a way to contourn the regs, but but can't even rest in a club because the club MC, as a while you can't just

in partier one, tomorrow. Now, I'll pose this question that by pleasure personal. If you, you think, if someone, I'll be, I see that, sometimes, a patch on career with Son of Anarchy,

with the logo, and, like, It's, yeah, I'm, well, I, I've seen, I'm, I'm see, I'm, I'm, like, it's a show, Or you think it would, there would be more that you'd prefer,

no, it's a true-you-see. No, I'm a true-pices, I don't know it. I know two incidents, one here, and one in the United, where I don't know which I'm not,

and I say, not it's who he said, but, let's say, there was a manorkeye, who had bought his son's of anarchy, who had had been on Amazon or whatever. Three pieces,

with the M.C. And the clubs, and the, the, the, the, the, the, they're, they've said, you can't

never that. Even if it's a, because it's a emcee and the three morso. For us

other, it's a mank of respect for what they're doing, I'm

so it's certain that you can have and there we're on a where you can't

get to all the Crests on Timmoo to you can get

a logo Elz Angeles Trepy Marade mental to but

but you get if you if you decide to if you Well, you know,

Acroche them in your room, the rid of door and they're never that. But there's a public, because they say,

ah, you know, but they're put by a real, you're not quite, you can't, you can't,

you can't a bonn valet because it's something, it's serious, that's, it's still, it's still,

it's been a question of, it's been a question of business, of all that, but there's we're talking to, you're

also, you, there's still, You know, these colors, these, they're Fierre of what they're doing. There's a... There's a lot of a legend, a heritage that comes, a patrimon, who comes with that,

that you can't nigh, and you can't get it, and you can't get, to go and get... Because they're, they're... They've got to... They've got to... They've got...

We'll never... We're not to... ...the, you know, that's just that person who has done, what we've got... ...the... in his world. He's not

he's been he's going to he's not able to have to be a way, I'm going to oh, well, yeah,

yeah, yeah, he, he, he, you know, he, there, he,

he, it's not normal that someone can have access to that so much I've tried to have done,

to have done, to have done, to have done to do it to be the right to they're doing, they're

they're doing, because I, you know, they're doing, they're, they're doing, all, all these naysry

And there, it nudes to our, at what we do, at what we pass, to all the, you know, the steps that we have to dover. So, it dilutes our, our world when it's vending at Walmart or, you know, that all the world will be motor, because there's certainly a difference between a motococlist and a motorist and a motor just in the aspect that the time that you

will dedicate to this life that You know to say I'm going to say that you're

that you're doing that you're doing but you're not more more than more more than

with this mentality that it's it's not really but we really to say

to the motor we think criminal and it's not right as as you

as as I'm as because if I go in Europe in

in francophon out out of if I'm if I'm a motor but the people say,

you're a proprietor of a motor and you're in a lot of, but you're more than that the origin word of

a motor, it's a policeier on motor. It's right. It's even not just a guy on

Bissick, it's a policeier so you say the contrast that we go to

the police motos motor criminal. It's a it's a anglophone that's a

language that's there's a there's a a big margin between the two. To say,

for doing, you know, to nuir to know the motor, just to say that's that it's

not the same. There's a too of space in the and you can be a

motor without being criminal and being completely dedicated

to a life a one a marginal. You can be a

passionate to, you know, I'm a person of a low rider

I, I'm a club, I'm a I'm not in the creche, a club, there's a every year, the United, it's a original of California, of Sano.

We're not a club criminalized, but here it's because, you know, you've got to be the number of times that, you know, there's been there's been to, you know, there's been, but, again, we're going to, we're going to, you know, the media that's saying, the motor, it's a mover,

because they've been, you know, a liberty with the moe, to say, oh, everyone who who makes the motor, it's, it's not

it's not, it's not the truth. And then it has been to be able to make a way.

So, you know, even if motor or no, there's people who go to in a

direction, and it is out the law, there are there other that will can't

still a but they're not to the end. It's they're

those that we're at least our plaques that's a price of our it's a lot of, it's going to give a crime, pay just these plaques

to roll it? We'd have at at a moment able to have a just to pay any of the no sense to do not.

Again, we were, we talked about the time of the end of 70 you, you had a certain liberty

yes, but you have kind of, you know, it was a much more too, it's accessible,

it's a motor, it's, it's quite to run to run, it's just, I imagine,

maybe not in the 16 it's, It's rendered that to have to have a fun, it's too, it's too,

it's a lot of money, you know, it's been to get a 40,000 per year, you know, an scooter, you know,

that's totally change. It's a short, and a season, a year, six months,

I like, I'm a day of two plus six months, she's, she's, it's,

it's, it's, at a part of when it's from a time, it's like, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, so, So, we're not chasteo here.

And, in plus, to get a, you know, a context not mal negative,

on all the motor, you know, it's bizarre because to the people, the

people, you know, they like, they're not really not the motor, but they

are content to the money, the of the motor, the motor, the

people who want, I mean, it's cost very, very cheire of plaque,

but they They'd take all this money and they'll investis and we'll have be able to work for running for our motor. Oh, yeah.

An exigance criminal, there's there never, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, yeah,

yeah, we're doing a chance for the sack because if when we plant in a knee-tole I'm, I'm look at the motor, I look not in

my car my wheel in a quantity of quantity of that I'm Kinkkeme my 21-puss. I, you know,

hey, you know, I, you know, I, you know, Not because I'm not because I'm curious to have repaired, and then it's a clear of the affair of repair, and then. No, it's certain. So, it's an other history,

a other debate. Hey, Dan, sincerely, thank you. It's different as other episodes, but I think that, the motor and all that,

it's so it's so gross in the universe Quebecoa, criminal, that I thought so interesting, just about this history,

and I'm not dissu, really, thank, it's super interesting, your live, I'll have plugged a couple of times, I'll get

in the intro. History of Moten on Quebec, Volume 1, vest of career, Dan, building, it's there.

Hey, you said, like, I mean, I'm doing, I'm just chicaned a because apparently,

when I'm trying, there's, there's some there, there's, it's not, I'm, I'm going to

go past to the time, he's, he's not in the right after all right all right,

because I'm, I'll let's I'll get it. Thank you. Thank you. For the last year last year

It's a long time That's, Is it all the title The Volume 2? Yeah, but I could not To do it Yeah, yeah

Yeah, yeah, I'm, but it's It's an project Long-A-Ling So it's certain that I continue to start to get to

That's a project that You've done, to yourself, of to to be The same, not an editor So if, if the one to be sold to

Procur you. Your link are there. You can't contact you directly. It's not. Maybe it will be

available in the library, but in the moment it's just vending direct to my time. You can

me contacte, email, Instagram, et cetera. All is in the description, and if

ever there something, and you're not in the description, invite me a message in private,

I'll forwarded the info for to be the information to be sure. Thank you thank

very, thank you very much very much of your time and of your

Knaissance, I have the impression that we'd have been an episode of 4-hour with all what you see. Episodes different. There are who's called,

there's a lot of this project with the style of the thing that I like, and that's the episode that you like you

there's something that's the same time, the style that you have appreciated that. Thank you. Again, again,

I appreciate all my invite and all my auditors all over there.