Au Parloir - Épisode #135 - Alice Echaquan

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

Dans cet épisode, je reçois Alice Echaquan, sœur de Joyce Echaquan. On revient sur leur enfance marquée par les épreuves, mais surtout sur ce soir de septembre 2020 où tout a basculé. Avant de mourir à l’hôpital de Joliette, Joyce a diffusé un Facebook Live dans lequel on entend des propos dégradants tenus à son endroit alors qu’elle demandait de l’aide.Sa mort a été reconnue par la coroner comme une preuve de l’existence d’un racisme systémique anti-autochtone dans les institutions québécoises. Cinq ans plus tard, le Principe de Joyce continue de faire écho et d’inspirer des initiatives en matière de sécurité culturelle. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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received Alice Echacquan some good chance that that resonates at your earring if it's

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we're we're talking of Joyce but we're about of Alice who is

issued of the first of nation a great view of a great parkour

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family that I say probably probably 98% of the Quebec

didn't never heard so. We've heard that a name that

a few a few years years in talking of Joyce Echakwan who is

a sara for those who are who I will make up rapidly in the phone

she was at the hospital she suffered she'd she'd she'd let's

a little for count we're suffote a bit of some there's there's

there's there's not to not to her crore. She had a video because she

said she was probably the last time she's about the last time she's she laments to the

mother in a little and she had deced this famous night. It's had a

great tolle in the community. I think the infarmears also I would not

in the deters because I'm not too sure but there have been there there are

there also that have there's not at the that's that's that you

come to talk. It's just that with your name, I have not the

question to be able to you know, we're going to be because it's just that I'm just that I'm

because with my inveter, I'm going to start from the beginning of the

first, who you come to where you come to where you come to and we

go past to through your your part- what's what's

what you with your family with the fact that you are the

the good more nation? Premier nation premier people, Aticamek, yeah.

What's he's he's not, I mean all right, you know, Indian, that I know

that's a proscries. Indian, that, that's, it's not to me tend to understand.

Why, because it's the Indians of India, we're not the Indian to land, we're

there, some nation, the first people, people, or, or, of my

nation, Atikamek, There's a lot of people. But when we don't know we see a person of the First Nations, we know, we know exactly, we know,

we know, we don't so, we know, but I'm, I'm asking, because in my spectacle, I, of my spectacle, I,

I'm using the word, I'm talking, so is it a proscript, I'm profite, for you to ask,

to the word, we say more, first nation and primary people. Perfect. I'm more, that,

than, that, we're more, we're going to be over that. Perfect. There are no,

they're not even that they say some of the people are the people who are people who are people who are people who are

they're doing people who are people who are there's a I'm trying to I'm going to just to party on plenty of things

my own my son I said I just just before to me and my own so my mind so my yeah I'm

not still because I'm want to party in politics you know that I love to this So what is they're in front, is it

because it's up because, is it we feel like there are people who are for the good reasons, or we're doing it because it's apparent to that? But we're going to rebecca. So, Alice Echakwan, you come, you're who, you come to where, you come to, you come to,

so. We're going to be able to do with today, I'm content, really. It's a pleasure. It's a long time that I wanted to receive someone of the First Nations. Is it the first time? It's the first time.

Because there's a lot of stigmund. There's a lot of, we don't want to see the question, we'll not see the fact, there's a lot of consumption. Yes, it's right. Often, the consumption amends a criminality. There's a lot, you know,

we're often, you know, I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, Fack, I think, that's fun, to have someone, that can de-doin all that,

the famous racism systemic, we're often, but we're often, uh, , over the, of,

uh, of people racist, Aitian, all that. But there are enormously at the First Nations, so I'm really content. So, like, I'm a box. I'm a button of parole. So I'm supposed to talk

to talk only when I'm in the hands. So I'm going to have to be my box, and I'll have... You've got to... You're all right. I'll tell you. I'll let's the voice. It's a merbeye.

So, Alice is Chacon, Chattie, I'mek, and I'm from... It's a about three hour to north of this, a bit of

in the Nodiar. Manwane is situated on north of St. Michel Descent

about about 86 kilometers in the gravel. It's a gravelle to have

a population about of 3,000 in some moment. And I come from a family

of nine children, okay? Nine children, don't three children

that are that's that I've chosen. I'm going to I'm sorry, I'm just assurried, I

see she has a little voice very dull assure you that's in your micro he is well

up to be because I know, I receive of my auditors, because I don't know

I'm talking and so I'm saying it's not it's like grimple there I'm sure to be

to be able to be to be so, so perfect he is being great

for for equilibry the affair exactly that it's number

so so. So, nine of three children, which are my father

is called Arma, my mother is called Madeline, deced a three year after

my father is a great artisand a fabricant of a carse, of a lot of some of

some of things like that, it's it's it's made, it's

some maybe not fabriced these corce there, some of some

of the panos, the paniers for them make the fruit and all

so, it really And my mother was a fabricant of, the, like I'm in

by that, the mitten, of the gu in poud ori fourure of castor, furrure of the loo,

all that it was really nice. So your two parents are issued of the First Nations

also? At Ticamek. Perfect. The two parents are Antichamek. My frere and

sir also. I'm the 3rd avant-darner of the family. My the more

Vue, she's decided, she's disappeared, my mother, her father,

she's her in her and she not, she's not the she's not

who you know, that's the other that's my second, she is a

living, she, she, she, she, she's she, she

did you, Paul, who do you know, the people, the

different, that's the year, the gil D' my friend,

who also who that we're and I've also my sister Loriana that we

that we're in this moment on the level of the research of my son, we've passed the chien

pisterer to Joliette it's a Starrant's a car I'll tell the story of what

what's going before we're there, I'm going to I'm going to we're going on you're still

if it doesn't so you grand you On what we've grown up. On what we're going to, you know, you repress,

if I use not the bad word, you're going to a reserve? A community. A community. I'm doing purreserve. It's really the

government who has said, the reserve. There are many who say, the Manoan, there are many who do that,

I don't know because he says the Amanoan. We don't do the Montreal, of the Victoria Ville, but I think

it's the reserve, the community, all the I've been so much to learn, the people, the allotone, all right? I'm here. Well, I'm going to educate our inveter, but you're going to be educated me also. I'm going to do. I mean, I mean, I hear, I mean, I've heard,

I've been from the middle, reserve, so. It's number one. So, I'm, I'm there. I've grown to there, but it's sure that I'm born in Joliette, at the Hospital of St. Obisep. I have an handicap physical, so it's not, for today, but I'm I've been

to get a jolette a certain time for for the so-medical after that about two, three years, I'm in

an an an minute, hospitaler or the services social will me have been to be adopted by the

family of my father has been for my parents, don't know a lot, demand

not a new to come to come in where I had, because I had been

to say medical because we have not an hospital at Manoan Okay, the road It's made

at Manoan of St. Michel in Manuane in 70. Okay? So, so I can't rest in Manuane

and you have, I have been to be a medical every day. So, so they're also, the family of accue

at the October I'm going to get to about two or three years, it's something so my

parents don't not be so much of new so, so service social, they've said,

abandon of the infant, negligence, demand not a lot of newvel. So they are going, Service Social, me, little feet, they are going to be on

to say, well, the paper, you signer for adoption. And my father did no. Now, I'm asking, is, is you at least to me say, what are you are your, your own years? Malformation congenital on the left. Okay.

I had an handicap, my my feet were completely de-mame. So I've been in a plato, From there, to that, I'm to be in three years,

I'm a for a while, I'm in front, so I'm sorry, I'm sorry, your parents are present, they're in the

hospital, the medicine they're that, so they're that's the people, that's they

want to say, well, we, we, we, we're not in the country, the road

is complicated. The road is complicated, or is, or is, you're, you're a family,

the first nation, who accouch, automatically, the services social , of a suit?

My mother had to be my her last year. Okay. But not long time, because I had

had been a medical, they said, Alice, do have to rest in the village, in the

town, in an family in the octone, because there no, there's not a man that. But it's

your mother that's that for, I don't know my mother, it's the

middle my mother, it's the not my mother. But I'm not, but I say,

if you say, if you that she's sure that's the woman who said, I don't know I'm trying to

say, she can't not be able to so, so it's a place in a family of the acue. So,

so I'm in family of for my medical, just right, but my parents appellate not often.

So, so they want to say, abandon of the infant. And it's because they're

there's already to do, we're on seven, six, five, six, five.

There's a job there, there's a job, there's a job, there's there, so, so,

the service social with me and the paper, and they said, "'Papa, you sign the paper.' He said, no, I sign not. It's my daughter, but I'm going to rest with me. But I'm like in atlage,

I'd say, to be mobilized, we'll say, so I'm going to rest to my parents. They've not been to have been in the service social, the, the family,

the travel social. That's is kind of a year where there was an time where there were not the paper to see, the infant, the infant had just

reprimed. But it's what's what's going to with my young sour Loriana. So,

so I grew like I granded like my Juan I've made my

primary there there. It's not been very at the primary

because I've seen my frar and we're in the

pensioning we're also here the pensioner we have

done many my family I've come my son to part. We had

we had a fun on the same we had a pleasure together. But I'm question, how it's

the fact that the service social are when you're saying, we'll have the place on adoption

and your father said no, but how the other do you do you in the

famous pension we're not the pensioning the pensioning was for the school I'm for the

school. Okay. They're they're not had a choice to partire. It's the government

that decided for us They don't demand a mom, to my father, Aramon, they don't know they're going to the school?

No, it's the government that's the government that's the government. There's not there's a not in the community, excuse me,

a community, and a community, it's two things. It's all that, because the government and at the government.

And at the fact, they're there, they're in passingate, I, I've seen part of,

it's for the secondary, so, for the school, you said to go to the school primary, so what is because there's a

school primary. In the community, there's a lot, but also you're on all right. But there were a little more view than me who were going, there were five years, six and or seven, and seven, he parted long time. D-Denoy, 10 months per annie.

You have two, you? You imagine, we're rach, your own children, you, Cedric. We said, demer my head, tock, talk, talk, talk. I tell you, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm saying, you have anything to

say, you, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're just I, it's my who will gerry your kids' I've been a interview of

my own because I get to be in prison. But it's just that we're in so that we're

so that my mother have done to have done the gull and it's for that they're

that's that you understand. My sister, my sister are my son went to

and my other friend and my I said, I'd come back, and the light

in their eyes and they didn't get in the parents they had

to consume and they consumed every day, of the beer, especially of the beer, because there were not

necessarily of drugs in this moment, but it's my frere who made the dope of the pensioner. I don't know what he'd bring in,

but he'd get to be the dope. I mean, I didn't know. There's just, and they're just, they were, I'm so much,

I fooia in the affairs to my friend, there had all there, there had all right, we had done, we had done,

we've used of the poverty also, because my parents consummate, so, So, there I fooia

always in the sack and to have to have got to eat, I know what to go ahead, and I saw there were some there was a bit of

there in, it was a little that's a point out of, because I would have been to have been to have been

eight and when I saw, so he and said, me, my frarres and then,

and he were coming, but I, but I'm, there, I'm there I'm there with my

little sister when I'm got to you're there to gere my sister, I'm there to my parents

who who bollab at all butcham, who bollivou, they bollar, and I'm occupied my little sister, I do my

little sister, I do go to go and my little sister, it's something for an infant of this age

that. You, you talk to community, because we need to the more reserve,

so community, I, when I understand community, I'm the impression that it's

a community, we say often that it's often, it's it's a village for elever

an infant. It's this image that I'm I'm, you know, I'm,

you know, the image that I'm probably a best band of the first of the first of people, I

see, sered, I see a clang, I'm a chief of cland, I've got

that's, if there's there's, there's what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm

imagine when when we talk of a community, you know, I have the impression,

And to listen to I see that it's not necessarily the case because there's a lot of consumption so you're a little to let's it at you know,

you're not a resource, an uncle, is there, is there's a resource in the community for the young like you,

for the families who are opprised with the consumption of the poverty like that for entreaty the community or all the

people are a bit, I'm a bit, I'm a bit, you know, but you're the reason to say, it's serious,

we're in promiscuity, we know all the we know all the world we're close one to one to be the other

but I'm what the person we've got to live and we're doing so but we're close and we're we're close

physically I mean we're doing we're doing we're we're looking to visit one of the other, I can't

even no I'm not to do that to make and I'm going to get to get my coffee

I visit the people it's correct it's going we're we're doing we're at At the same time, all the troublemans

us have eloyed. We're not we're talking to the same way because there have been in the same sexual, of the violence

physical, of the abandon, of the deracinement, the part of our language, our culture. There's a huge focée

from the pensionant. And it's very that. We're in a community to say, it's serious and we,

but at the moment, the trauma us have made that that like that also.

And I'd never a gesture of someone who me say, oh, but it's because I'm

because I'm saying in part of that the alcohol does just resortive the real of what

you're in general, you know, some people people who are people who are that a problem,

who are in the poverty, tombe in the consumption, what's that comes

in the community, and to be, like I'm, like, that's it's it's amends

more violent because when when we're chos we're in going to be in the trouble violes,

like that there's like, there's that, you know, there's a in the internal but there's there's a

external also there. We're there, these, the women of people who have disappeared or

who have been abused or who, you know, by what we call the man, I'm going, I'm saying

what I'm in the, I'm just that's, but, you know, to, you know,

to, you, all pre of the authority, and, and, of the number of

women disappeared. You know, there's a young of 15 old woman, who's

called Arian Tremblay, non-fiction, who disappeared, I'm the impression that the energy

that will be made to get to be more than is Chakw I'm part to be

I'm with you know, it's not for a thing we're not because

it's a fact, it's a it's a It's not even if it's a fact. It's a day, you know, it's made. And what do you think? You know, it's all the people,

say, in a minute, it's normal that a community is revolt. You know, for the more people, if there's some people, but we'll say, the crisis of the

other cars, some, like, hey, he pay not tax, they've said, well, not pay you, not pay a tax,

but you've got not been to have no potable because, you've never had been to not pay a tax, I'm going to say, if you

you pay more an impo, you pay no tax, but I'm going to leave your children, but if you're there's something, we're not for the police, you know, I mean, I'll say, it's a bit of sense to have been in.

It's that's that's gotcha, of the of the time, of what, because, you know, I've, I, I'd have, I'd have, perhaps 13, 14,

for all right, to golly, that's, perhaps not the village for you, but I'm , I'm just, I'm going to, I'm going to,

I'm going to, my students secondaire, And it's what that that's the people, when they look the manner

how we're treated, you're doing, you're doing, you're sal. I'm sure, it's like I had to go,

I was at at Therese Martin, and I had to be promuling like that, in the corridors because

I was to be treated of sal, you've been sal, because I'm bronzed, I'm fonseed, I'm,

and I had the shoes like that. What are the conditions so I'm a guise my studies my students

when I'm when you're in the colloer and I'm excuse, I'd say, well, I'm going to and the

people, and the call list of and the people who said, hey, La, Kau. I remember what that's saying

primarily, it's just these were to be able to it's a racist systemic.

So, so every every day every year, it's like I have to reach my

life, I'm to our children for who they're going to be in the life. But, I don't know this. We're talking to the 80, 80, 98, 89, a bit,

okay, I'm at least, Martheon, Joliette. And I've lived here every day. But every year, in the autobus, in the corridors, in my class,

and even the professors. A good year, there was a boy year, there was a few, there in my car, in my bus, schooler, I'm all 7702,

There was a girl there's a correct I'm going to There was just to have There's a little bit There's a little bit. I mean, I remember I mean, I

I'd say, I'd say, hey, let's what? And there's everyone in the bus I know how many four places in an auto bus

there are 408 to be around and I'm everybody part to the I'm, why? I have to do you have to do you do get in the life

I've got to to do you have to be someone in our life But all the things that we said by the

people of a boy a boy year, a boy I just took these gross lunettes

because it was like some of booting and I was in tabarnack and what I

did, I put in the net and I I've got I said you, I'm

my call this you're you're there I'm there I'm

there the government my parents, have been to say, my parents, me say, I'm saying, to stop me, my parents, and I'm going to

get up, so that's intergenerational racial. So, like, I'm not a moment of the daughter, I would have

been on to go to the violence also. I've consumed of alcohol, I've not consumed drugs. I've got to

get to june, two, three, join, I, and I, I've bozied

in this, but I'm, but I'm my mom, my mom my mom said, if you consume the dog,

I was interne in psychiatrary and I wanted to my alarm in psychiatry. I'd be able to how I'd be paying my

dope because I don't know the dope because it's like if I had my

spirit and I don't know my mind my control of my spirit

I can't be able to but it's that I think at the secondar in secondair

I view that. How's that that you didn't be not? Because with the

time it's it's that's it I was to have the last pensioners, we're at least, about 89,

about 90, 92, about the last pensioning, who are I've been for the last time,

I'm trying to get to be in, it's a line, but I've lived in the impact of my mother, of my

mother who has heard of these children who are in the parents, so we're so we're

so, we're with these children, we can't my parents to teach the things to their parents

to be in the where I'm I'm going when I'm a little, or I'm refugue when I'm a

to give you to confit? To me my frere I've seen. You've got no, you have no

repair? I don't know because my mother bought all the time. And a day I

I'm put to my knee, and I asked you asked the little Jesus to come to

me to be to be eight-in- this mom that's Derek, because I don't know

where you see, where you know, they're all the day, they're going around

to me because everyone has lost their children to have to have been to have a

one, you have a eight-and- you've got. And then plus I live of the aggression sexual in

age, what's what you do? You're a violence, the aggression sexual, the alcoholism, you're not

of a repair, you're an son of eight years, Sydrich. Your

brothers and their sisters are going, where you go? The only thing you need to ask you

to come to come to get to get to because I have seen my little

the girl of my sister to be there there there is a

first because I am sure to hear the word Jesus out of

your because we're that for my It's a lot of your nation and religion

Catholic. I see. I see. I'm seem that the church Catholic over the

first of the first of anything so I'm just astonished. I'll I'll tell you why.

Why I say Premier Nation, but I'm not religious. It's that the sole

place where I was being. It's when I went to go to my my mother.

My mother was a religious okay. Okay. They've had a lavage of

my mother, you know that you know, I know, I mean, I understand, I'm not, I'm sure,

I'm in the question, at the, how it's, it's the, it's the the ombris, or the

ombris, in the time of the Calab, there, there were an other, there was,

there was a, there was a, I mean, that's a name, it's just just a, yeah,

I, don't, I, yeah, if you're, if you're, if you're going to have

to be seen this time, but, we've seen, we've seen, We're going to really the church

had a on the place to get a point of, the religion in the community.

But it's that. The sole place where I was in the church, because it was a

calm. Because when I was to show, it was the violence, the alcoholism, it was

it was a so in the church, so I know what they're doing against

the first I'm I'm I'm not I had been married

at the the church is But you're probably probably not at 8 10, by example. You're not

not conscious at the time at the time of what the church did it because my mother pray and my

mother said Jesus will come to save. The time of an infant Jesus will come to

save. But you see not, you realize not the impact that the person is

in trying to do you because you have a old you're in seven eight in a minute

you you know you're just you just the impact direct on your life to you

you're not you're not not. You're Not religious, you're not there. Not yet. Not yet.

Not yet. I've seen in the more later. I'm going to do you see that so now it's not part of your life, I imagine.

The religion. Is that have to have some of some of the things, that can have done to be

in the sense not necessarily a croyance but is something that that's that appease in car?

I'm I'm more typical traditional to return to the source, she's in

the nature is in territory now. I'm I'm like, I'm I'm not completely abolished that.

I've always liked the churches like the calm that exists there. You know, it's not necessarily the religion Catholic who has destroyed our lives.

It's the people who are doing that. It's the people who are that they're that they're to understand.

Because at the base, at the base, it's, it's just all the religion are good in other time

that person that person that practice should be in its business with her I'm even. I'd say, Buddhism, it's

good. You're all right. In other time, when I when I practice, I'm being there. I'm not a lot of course. I've been a lot of myself. You know, it? It's for that I understand. But there are many frerey-sare who are, you're still

against the religion Catholic, and I understand with all what we've in every year, there's two courants. There are some of the Catholic, there are there traditionalists. And it's correct. I'm just respect. My parents, he was a Catholic, and I respected,

malagre what we've lived, my parents, we were going to us envoyed also at the, at the, Mr. Le Pratt, he was invited

to go to do, Mr. LePrette, you'd say, you'd say, if you'd say your feet to come to make the menace

to the prehibitor at the church, we'd go to, we'd, what you'd be there, Mr.

Mr. that's my question, because to talk to when you were young, you lived the

Because of your parents, you vived the abuse sexual, also? Yeah, he did that with us. So, we had the, like, the, like, the, um,

the, um, the, the, um, the ban. Okay. And he, he passed, and then, he had to be the head.

If it was not bad, and by the then the other went, and he, he'd be, he'd be exoleed.

And he did what he had to do with me. But my parents, I never said to my mother and to my father because he's a religious because I wanted to

be loyal to my father and over my mother and over who to God? Inver God? Over my father? Or my mother?

But it's because I've already heard my mother. We had said the priest he does that and we do do much.

Arrude to die of the pache it's what he said to say to pachy. If he said that, my ma'am, he will even more, he'll even more,

I'm going to go to my mother. She's never to say, now, because now we'll see, you know,

to see? You can't? Is that that's the only, I'll be able to bring any the time,

but is the only the baby that that comes in community, it's been in the religion,

it's has passed to the exterior, of my community when I was at the school in Veloce. It's been

all the long. And that's it's the affair. Because at a moment of the thing,

you know, you say, what I'm at the view of the man? How is that I do respect?

We've not learned how to respect my car, my sexuality, my sensuality,

I've not that. The people do you want, they want, because because I'm vulnerable.

Because we have not heard of because the religion says the sexuality is a

pachie is taboo not but he accept a young a young of 12

years that's not normal you understand? It's not normal

so so I get in the life for I go to I'm

to get to my life and and you have to

I'm Because I'm abandoned in my life. You can't you? Oh, I'm accroche, where I'm where I do my crotcher. I do mackrochet to go to my

because you say the word accroached, when you're eight and you put a knee, and you're going to go ahead and you ask you, to be to come to get?

At what I'm at my knee, is the envy to you, come? I've been. You can't the tentative

of suicide. We'll say, yeah, I've lived at two reprise. I was 15 years. I had 15 years.

I've paid a pot of pillul aspirin. Gross pill of pill pill. You're the

sign clare. You have the sound clear. I'm sure. I've been Stown in Syon in the

that I'm in family of accue because I was in a year to live with this malette

with all with all that all that I've lived over seven

eight years nine nine, ten I had been I've been trained to a family

to the other also, abandoning, all that's neglected. So, after your hospitalization,

that's you know, you've been replaced in family of after? My hospitalization, I go to

my mother. Oh, yeah, after the other had been after that my mother, what she

did, he said, he said, to go, in a family, a week, in the

community? Ah, okay. In the community. Okay, But after that, I thought that's a family

family of like you've lived in your family of your no, no, no, no. No, no. That's, it's,

in the more time. In the last I'm in family to call in Joliette, at the octone, and then

I did cause chuteed, my parents, I had 13, 14 years. It's the last time I met with my

parents, I was 1314 I'm, I'm parted young at my parents, I'm going to the school

in a school, in a family in the October. And it's like a prolongment of pensioner to that. So, I've lived here in Jacqueline. I'm all right. It's a child baromé. And then, I was doing

because I was displaced. I was getting displaced. I'm completely in a family all octone, where there were other Atikamek, other fill Etikamek who lived with me. So, there, oh, Colin, there,

I did gollymast. It was in the affair, and I was not capable to dream. Because when you live of the trauma and these abuse in your own in the

family, of the alcohol, you do not, you're in a hyper-vigilance. You know, you know, you do not,

you know, because you pass your time just to you're not to be in the night, but I'm not

the day, because the people do the day, you're always in the attack? Gen.

It's like that I'm who live without a in the end of the in the same,

I'm just, I'm, I'm I, I, I'd say, hey, have you do the beer?

You could part to have a little while. She had very very well. The men, so I'm in a family.

I'd have to do you. I'd have to see a week. After that, I'd have in a family. You were in a

money of exchange? Gen. Because she, she, you know, you know, you said, she said,

she had three years, she had three years, she, she's you know, you know, you're to look to have

to have a certain zanitude invert your mother? Yes. It's the impression

that it doesn't, that you don't, that you're not, I search the term, I'm not

to call. Thank you. You're not. But now, because I have made the pardon to the

mother. Okay. It's maybe eight before his death. Mama is returned

at the hospital with the malady cardiac. And I was Revevee To see

With her At all At least The hazard Fahue The hazard Not ever For a lot

So I'm With her To see Mom I said, I said I'd say I'm gonna She's a

Myroup And I said Momang I said You know Why? You know You know

Why? You know Why? And then I'm gonna At least At the She'd

And I'm Perno and She's Civiar And Paine Vulnerable And then the doctor me He said, we don't know

if it's the time to hear you say, because it's not true that I'm not going to be talking before you're not you can't even you can't

have an answer. So, so, so that I said Mom, I said, we've seen, we've been doing, we've seen, we've seen,

we've seen, how we've made live, okay? But I've but I've used already a lot of therapy,

I've seen I've seen a psychologist, teleperper, too so. What, you've chomined there's a chominy,

I've chomined a book, and I'm paying with that, with Mom. I said, Mom, I said, I know what she has said, I know what I've ever if we're living, if we're doing, to hear what

our parents who have other, too, and I see what her mother has lived my mother has been the same thing that she has made a live.

She has just repeated what she has lived in my regard. Then I said, to her mom, she said, she said, she said,

you know why you're in your car, because you've accumulated too of things, you've

made a to make a to be in my own and you you've frowned, she was

when I had seven a little a little drop of a room and he had been

to be a 30 minutes it's a lot of a lot of a lot. I said

all the mom there, I said, I'm I'm I'm sincere

Cedrick. And I just the the alarm to call it to my arm,

I said, I'm not obliged to say, I'm sorry to come to come to come

to make, at the way, because I've been utilitarian my life,

to her life at her, I'm not Alice for her her

and her had decided she, she was she she was she

had a she So she had called Alice Eshakwan, Alice, for repete her mother. He said, you know, you'll abandoner

my daughter. And she said, her vash of her for that I can't take care of her all the life, you know? She got to

She has agh She has to use. To have my life. So, that I've pardoned her mom.

And I pardoned her mom. And I part of that my mother has changed her

behavior I it's not the words that you're going to say you're

over me it's the actions that's that's changed to make and my mother

she had changed. She she was she my my daughter

my Jemadine Khamor Madina Khzakadin Transduction How I'm

I'm I'm How my my How do you my my fee?

Or by example And she said, she'd have a pandemic of that, or, well, she'll say, come to say, come, and I've done, the dinner, the vine,

the vine, the bannia, the bannet, and she's so, and she'll have changed a lot after. It's for that I'm up with him, now, with her,

I'm not, with her, with her, with her, not, like, in English, like,

so, so I'm a so, so, so, so, so, I have been very, many, I'm trying to be able.

I don't live in the victimization man. I want to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, no. Because you

have to live a moment of an minute. You know, you know, we're going to live. In fact,

we can say, I've lived certain things, but I have been this person that

because of me. Grace A that, it's in that, but, yeah.

I'm not that cause to, I'm because of, That's important. So, yeah, it's a difference.

We have very little about your part. Is that, if it's going to be in peace, have you pardoned to your

also? I've pardoned to my father also. My father, my father, she'll be the

plus, I'm my father. I really really much a man, but I know,

I'm, I'm, I'm, a question that is very difficult, Is your father

did too like to do I think yeah but physically or he was I'm

if you're I think I'm what you're saying yeah my your

your yeah yeah yeah yeah and and I'm

I've seen I've I've seen I've seen something between

my mother and my my dad my dad I'm because he has

never had never had a violence physical of he has

very amant for us. A lot of that's because I consider that's a violence

physical, not because it's not because it's not a clack to the visage that's not a violence

physical? It's just that I'm in agree with that. My mother from her, she

has been she's also, you know, but I think it is hard the fact

that I can't understand that my mother not what was what

house. Is she she knew, and she had she had she did

maybe because there was there's there's and you consume you know

your affairs. You have to know to know your things.

We're the person to see the person to see what we're seeing

what we see what we and see it's there there

happened in my proper family. a year my She said, my father, she's in consumption.

She said, my father, he said, I see, I see what you do, my father. He has poniarded my father, before us. I had eight years. And my father, he had been pointed out of the genus. There was plenty of science. I don't know what it's it.

I think, for an infant, for an infant, I think that it's an accident. But it's not, I know, I know that today, in my age of an adult, it was not an accident. And we had to remossed the center because our mom we said to remorse.

But she had to see what what happened, finally. It's almost like appeased in my case to know that she saw that. But when she expiry that with violence, it's hard for me. Is it the gross violence,

is it something that you've have seen so much on the community? Is there, the part violence, arrestation, prison,

is there many of people in the First of the people in prison? Yeah, no? Mm-hmm. Yeah,

no. Traveying in the domain. I've worked in the domain, I'm in the end of

sexual. So, yeah, I want but, yeah, there are not that they're going, but there

are not that they're not, in the community, we don't point to the people, is because

the police is interested less, more to crime that's in the community, you know,

is, is it is weird the way of the way to say, but is he would have more

in the sense that's it would be a little more , uh, serious at the not of the

law, but the, you know, of the security, of, the inquire, you know, to,

you know, I say, I say, I do always, the victims, know, port, point,

certainly, is, is, is, is, is, is, is,

is, is, more of, , more of patrooes, more of encodrement, more of education at the law also,

maybe, I think with the time, with the internet, it's more large, you know? I'd say, that the people, the people,

the police, in my community, it should be more formed, plus encodered for the business that work, okay?

I, it's been 27 that I've worked in this domain that in matters of aggression sexual, malgree

all that, all that, 27 but the people should be more encodered, plus accompanied

for their job, for their job, for the people are not we're, we're not

we're they're to make but that it's the manner colonization. I'm

don't know it's, it's what they're called the peacekeeper who are policiers

on the community everywhere because I think it's the case because

I think I'm in the corner of Marciers, Chateau Gay, my parents, we've been long-time abetted there, so I saw, and I saw,

these vauters, but is it the policekeepers or, yeah, there's not some, the police

Manuel are formed, they're going to have a nichol, they're all right, they're all right, they're all right, they're all right, like a policeier

like, they're doing, that's what they're that they're correct, is what they're, what they're, what they're,

I'd say, honestly, not always. Very honestly, because we're... I think that's the case of... We're a police at a morgue also, as far as, there are people, there are who are not being.

Because we have these confilies familial, I think. Well, not I'm not, I'm talking. We're an intervenant social, okay? They'm an issue in my family. It's going to be, it's all the time. We're all right. We're all right, cozen, co-since, you know what?

So, at a moment of the day, there's a retreat of all fair. I have a link particular with the people. Is, is I do I do with a job like I dovered without

me to know that's my family? You know, but the people, they have pity there's

diminue their intervention therapeutic, nah, that's the reality but I'm what I do, I say to

my concier clinic, no, I go not because I'm too emotionally You're too

implicated, is, is what I'm do you? But I'm, I think, I'm, I think,

I'm, I'm, I'm, it's super professional Interpret. It's what is the good

thing to do. Maloresement it's not what the whole of the whole to do you know,

it's not, it's not, but there are a certain moments where I have not the choice

to intervene in the material of suicide, for example, because I had a only one

on intervention. I was all the person, and the person who is someone that's

someone that's someone that family to my cousin, by example. But you're

the same. But that's the life of each policy of

each intervener at our Is they all issued of the First nation? Or there are there are

there are there are in the people who are they're in the majority of people. I'm using

Alokton, we're to say black. No, I see, but you're not for you for you

same. Like you do not for me right. No, no, but

why you're black? Why do you black? But it's a way to demarke but

aloctone, I'm I'm trying to retone the word Alokototone. It's in plain so.

I'm trying to educate. Well, no, but it's perfect. I'm just, I want to be it. I mean, I'm saying that we're all right. You know, I'm saying, I've said that I'm trying to off camera, you'd say,

in the same time, it's not because there's people that, but I like, but I like that, I'm just on the limit. I'm just, it's a pleasure that I'm doing on on the limit.

But I'm not using but I'd use it more autoctone, by example. I'll use it, it will change, that change will be the gag.

The gag will rest the name. It's unbelievable. No, it's that, and is, and is the policiers

all-Octone are the people, is we're doing, is they do they're doing their job? Why is what

you're thinking? Why do you ask that question? Okay. I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, because, because, because, because, because, because,

because, because, we're, we're, I'm, you know, I mean, it's,

it's, the allotone, the, the religion, it's, these are octones, who, the pensioners,

it's, we, I'm, I'm, we're doing, but, you know, we're,

we're in, we're always, we've always tap it's in the state, we know, the system,

that's, that's, that's, that's, for that, I'm a question, I'm a

point, I can't , I, know, no, I'm not, I'm not to have,

to have, to have, you know, I'm 've been, I've been when you're when you're

, I'm my past, at our First Nations, she's in my past who's been who's in I'm in a terrible and when I

know a Quebec when I'm a question, I'm not, because I'm my trauma of what I've been doing that's

passionate. It's sure, I'm going to die for to die for because I'm in my time, he

will again I'd not be able to know what, I'd not know what to know to hear of

what you get to when it's in trying to get to what's that's that you're

done? Is it that's you're racism systemic also? Of my part, yes. Perfect, okay.

I'm just... Of my part, because it's the racism, of our part, a cause of the trauma that we've that's in

you know? But by the other, we're also, we're doing to letch that. But how is

we're going to do that? But in going to in garrison for so-mame, in doing

the path with the peace with our past you, you know, I'm I don't

look like that. I'm I'm arrive here I'm I don't regard

like that. I regard an human that's to be in a way to be to be able to

me to get, that you educate, that you're that you're that you're doing, you know,

but it I think that I think that that's a part, and of your part, and it's

not at the time that's the human that we're in, you know, you know,

it's we have to we have the path, it's to power, to be

the resilience of the You can't, it's like that. Maloresemen, they're still in the trauma who are in the trauma that Ais the people who are,

because, but, unfortunately, there are also of the Quebecois, the lectern who pay on us on us who are, who respect not our

rights, who respect not our values, our territories, our territories, it's a bit of a lourourourourke, it's the

country, you know, but, but, but, yeah, there's a systemic

of the bar and the other. Which is... Honestly, I think that the vote is more comprehensible than the

other. Because, you know, at the base, you know, you've never did, you have subied?

You've had subied from the beginning, so I can understand that at the first

eye, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, it's zero there, but there's just

someone who makes the foot on terrain, and I look at Groche, because you're on my Terran. It's not, you know, people are you in life, you know, the color of your head, you put on the

place, you know, I don't know why, you're on the I'm a piece on my terrain, you know? But, that's the problem. And of you're not, you're not, you're not doing this, your terrain. You're qui, you, to say, it's your terrain. Gabbat's what, I'm married to Quebec. Okay?

No, I'm just separated. And then, the first time, I went to say, to St. Andre's in Argentina, at my Buparra. You know, I really very well, I've been here. Yeah, I've been

back, I've been over on the terrace Rabeard, you know, so I know, so, my Kazas,

or Kaza, okay? It's like that my town, my own and my town, yeah,

so, so now I'm my Bopar, my Bopar, they're on on the border of the Rivier, I,

go visit all the people, we're like so, we're like this on, we're doing, you?

We're at this hour, we're doing the vowsy. So, like, I'm going to visit the vizier at the side. I'm going to go. A bit of the same, I've been, you know, I've traversed, at least. I've passed two hours with us to do, hello, I'm a parent, Alice. I'm the belle-feet of the vizier, Jill, and ninn-in-in-in.

You, good, he'd be happy, it's a little, a couple, a rea-treat, and they've got nothing to do you know what, I've got a coffee with us, It's the other. It's a number one. I've passed one hour and a minute, almost two hours. And then, they're all right.

They're going to search, my, my be my best-conjoined, you know, I just. Then I'm just a little bit. It's a-te-ta. I'm just a friend. What's the fact of all? What's the time?

What's the other bar? It's not your own terrain. But why? So what? Who has said that, that's not my terrain? It's the endrumat it's not my terrain.

The term, there, it's to all the world, Cedric. Okay? It's not just to me, it's not just to you, it's at all the world, we're all right, we're all the same termal.

We're all responsible to bring that in our termair. The their boys'i, they've passed a bell hour with me. And we'll say, we'll have to talk about. But he could also say,

you've said, you've got to be decalist. They've already me say, too, decalist because of you face it. But no, but I have passed a boy one and a minute with those other.

It's just a man who's in in in in in, who's in isolates, and who are been in the best of my and you know, and I'm sure and so,

and then my poor. You're not I'm sure. Yeah, my beau pair, my ex

my father, he said, they said, he said, hey, your be really gentle, you don't have

good time, man, and then, and it's the same thing, I've been married with a Quebeccoe,

and so, so it's my town, you go to not, no, no, no, no,

I, I'm, my, my, And my own world, and then can come to visit.

It's in all right. It's correct. But the other are not because there's allocotone who want to

come to come to come to come to come to come to be to come to it, it's correct. It's great.

It's a problem. There's too of the borderia, if there's there's too of frontiers when the

line there I can't go to try over to see you? Yeah, I'm

I'm I'm I'm and I I think that beautiful, but in the same,

you know, with all what I'm in a good part of the society, sometimes I'm like, well, that's my

foot-carry, I'm a family, I protect, my family. You're the good. You're the invite, but if I

don't, announce to you, what's what to say to, it's a problem.

You know, you, you know, you're, you know, you're trying, and you're not,

how you will it protect here, who is you? Affirm, you,

respect to you, what's that you do? That, yeah, but I

say, you say, I mean, that's, it's for them, but I have not

the control of the other. I understand, I'm, I mean, if someone

put a place, if you're on the same, I'm saying, my reflex,

is not saying, good, I'm you can't you be able to the , the

point- if you do you understand, you understand that it's, but it's, it would be, it's,

it's a It's a lot but the world is to be what's the and I'm not, I'm not, no,

no, no, I'm in a banalue, or is it there's never anything to have any to happen

to the last year that the time but it's the time, we're telling, it's because the internet we're doing

telling us information that I'm not supposed to know that there's been there's not supposed to to know that but I'm supposed to

know that information that we've just the mal so you know everywhere we've buffered a lot of what I appreciate

and I love to do so interesting I'm I'm I'm secondaire family of accue

at octone for your school secondaire It's not always It's not always That's not Is it

Is it in a Secondair? I'm I'm You're in a family of a co- You know

You know You know I'm talking about I'm saying I'm sorry She's She's She'll be

She's still She's She said She said She said Yeah, I'm Yeah I'm trying

She's She's She's She's Annette That's My Mour of

My mother D'A And She She has She has She has She has

She has She has She has to my majority. She's a Comackemec of of the Monoan. Okay. She's a

resident in Notre Dame of Prairie in Angolian. So, yeah, the same nation, but

she's not in the community? No, she's occupies, she was agent of liaison at the school

Therese Martin, where I frequent at the college polyvalvalate at the secondaire, she was

there to work to take care to be the for sassure that they're at school, the perseverance

scholar, the perseverance the presence, the course, for the integration and the situation. Yes, yeah,

so, totally, it's brought so, honest. So, I was with her,

but I had a problem of a retard academic, I've had four my secondar

two. I'll repeat a professor two, I, they'd know that by car

my matiards, my matiards, I'd 18 years, I'd attend my 18th 18th in secondar

three, so I had you're putte out of the school. And I'm going to go to the adult not long. There's an adult not long.

So I'd enter into at the envelope. Felix Guadourri, that we'd be there. I was to evaluate, but I had a great retard

schooler, academic, and I'm re-evalued. I was in a 5th-6th year, you know? At 18

years? At 18- years? And they've left to perdurring in the affairs?

Yeah, but with all the I think, you know, I've said, you know, I've done with all what you've ever seen, it's normal that you're in auto-vigilance, you're in protection,

you're in an analysis all the time. You imagine, yeah. The mathematics, do you have anything to do you have to do? I'm in fact-tue, the mathematics. All what I like at school is

to go to my friends. You know, to go go to my friends, going to fume of the cigarettes with my friends, socialized, I like a lot socialized.

After that, I mean, I've got to those adults, they've been evaluated, so I've started to get to

get a second there. I'm going to get to be bad at a minute. I just

a job, I know, I know, my matiette, so I have made my second- year,

when you're when you put in Annette, is a placement that's a legal

on the law DPJ, it's not it's not a placement on the depigue,

okay, it's a place, it's a it's a little the prologement of the pensioners.

Okay, the pensioners, we're in front. After that, we're just an school secondaire two. And no, three, four,

five. We have a little school. So, secondar, three, four, five, you have no

in a village. So, I'm going to, I'm doing, I'm doing, I've done two times Monor and I

have done two times, Joliette. She's is remunerated? Ah, like, like,

a family of accue. Okay, perfect. The reason for the question to tell you that's

because you to be at 18 to those adult, because if we're if we're the fact of the

D.P.J. That's a center of a family of at 18 years, a lot of

a lot of a few in the queue is what you do you know. Is it what you're going to

have been to Annette? I've met with six years. And I went to live with

him. Okay. And I went to my mom at my mom of adoption. But she

she had always a she's always she's always she's she did she's No, no, no, no, she has taken me

Parade, right. Paray, like. And she's, she. And rest, a mom for you. She's a She's a old, she.

And then I'm to do you. I'm doing my second-air-five. I'm content to have terminated. Bravo to have

done. I've got to a job social there back, a counsellor of orientation. There also,

I've used to the intimidation, the racism to the adult, malorism, but, I'd say, maybe you're at-cote this cutte

that. Just, ah, well, so you're trying your microphone a little bit, I'm just to be sure that you're just to be sure and your micro,

that's true. I'm sure. I'm sure. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. The people will adore you.

You'll see. You'll see. I finished my second-air-five. The travel social, I met, because I lived a

lot of things. I'd say, it's weird to say that I'd not a lot but today. I'm not very. And then, there, he'll evaluate for psychologize.

How, in orientation, where I'd have been on-all-all-in-law? In which, I'd have to be in a lot. I'm going to be in police an hour. I'd want to be in police, in psychology, in the Army, all of what I'm doing today. I've been in a lot of time. The police commonplace, commonplace, community, that we'd call it. I don't,

I'm trying, you pass a bit too fast a bit police community yeah, is like a

pompier volunteer, like when they they're like, but they're not armed to be

not, no, I'm not, I'm in the police, I did that

with the police I, I'd work at a work for a

time, perhaps, nine, a bit but I'm but I had the

business, I'd want to do it and but the detainees, I'd pass my time to jose with us other, because when I finished,

I've been a year, I'd have been, to get my life, because I, you know, for I'd have to be in my life, that, and I, and I've got to be in town,

in Monashire, in the two, when he was arrested for the violence conjugale. And, and I joysed more with the detenue

than to apply the law of arrestation. But if the other who they'd apply because I had not all the course that

that I'd have to have an arm with me and I'm and I'm talking about with us

what I'm interested for the detain the delincan was, what's that what's that amending to be

violent, what's that's coming to violate to be to be able to do you to get

to get to get to act of that. In group you'd have been my podcast. You'd

did a podcast I want to know but film me. It's all that. But I'm in the people who are

now with the delinconce sexual, the victims now. I would be very well to do that

job, yeah. I've finished my studies or there at the

vol, and I had to enter in education specialized in New Jersey in

New York in Newark and there, other racistism that are And we have to defend again.

We're always to defend. It's always to be able to see the whole of I'm in three years

four years, because I'm because I'm in the retard because there are again the derangement of the

people, even of the adult I'm, I'm, I'm in philosophy French,

you know, it's, what the philosophy, you know, I, you know, I can't

I don't know anything of the philosophy, but I tell you, there's a professor that I'm going to go, and then, there, you know, there's five minutes for trying to understand if you sound, for example, you know, I'll know, I'll say, that's what, these things. So, I'm going to go, I'm going to see, I said, I can't have five minutes

to plus, because, me, it's not my language primary, you'd rather I'd rather to understand. And, but to understand every word, so you, dictionary, no, we've got to, we'd have not, d'clock, you know, for that I can't, you know, for that I can't understand the context.

And then the moody professor, he's elevated, and said, there's a lady, he said, he said, he made me ask, he said, to give him five minutes of plus, but it will have to run in the mule, it's not her who will decide how many times when I give. He would not me give me five minutes of plus. You know, all what I've vogue as a racist, for a real, imagine my friends that my friends'rero-reuxer

that will be able to do you, understand you? we are you really obliged to we're doing our own what, the conditions going to be?

We're going to make in place I've reached like, Sydrich, in the life. But we've put the conditions

grandate for our children, our little children, for you're doing to the professor? And I said, if you,

I said, your course, I said, it's the philosophy one, I said, your call, and I said,

I said, I'm sorry. because there's not a coalition that's going to say, you're going to be to defend them in a moment of the

and you have to be in a moment, you know, it's a lot of, no, it's the last thing to find, I consider that in the

life, farm, not, no, it's so, we're, it's so, maybe, maybe,

maybe I'd maybe, I'd have to be affirmed, in a minute, and you, let's see tap his in the

head and so much to be the whole, but it's just, and so much, women, now, in China, I said that's like the women, we're going to see,

we're doing we're doing more, we're defending to more and more, but you know, I've got a other profo, and it's not

all the world who is racist, I know, it's, we don't generalize. The error that we've done we've

been used to generalize. And the Quebecers, they're in China also. But we

don't generalize. It's not all the Quebecers are racist, you, it's not all the

You know, it's not all the Atikamek, the Inu, the Malizite, who are racist. Now, it's to do the part of the thing, you know, so you've got, I've got a good,

professor of philoh. I've tapped to 95, 99% in my schools, in all my course. I've reached

to learn my course. I graduated in December 2000. I graduated in December 2000. And I started my

job at the president of the former at Joliet. I've made a stage that. After that, I've been to work.

And it's for 27 years. He's destroyed, in plus, I think, the demolition of the prison.

There's someone who said, he said, he said, we've finished the demolition a depenitancey.

It's true. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. I don't know not because you know, there's a question,

there's a question there's a question. Ater parenthood. Um, um, Now, I'd want to

go to go to some of the notes that I've made and made a little pre-entry

with my collaboratrice. I'll come in your family. Yeah. In fact, we're

going to finish by Joyce because I think it's something that everyone has heard. Yeah.

All right to have a certain voile on a lot on a lot but before that.

So, yeah, there had had been the pensionat that on on

a mass. There had other stories. There's a story your sister is a woman on the car

on the car yeah, check that. Not excused but explain the distress emotional of your or if it

has a part to all. It's not an allure. What is going to my son

was born on 23 Loria was she and was between me and my little

Nicole okay my my sister tombe malade so that it's

got to an avion to Joliet. Okay? But, the government has decided

that he had made not, no my mother, because she's at the country for the government.

So they're just to bring, I think, my little sister, they'll have to get

to get to hospital St. Tuseab, they're going to be there to be in an family

to get at the Oktone, okay, because she had been a bit of

my my little sister. In fact, we're repete, who you're

arrived at you. It's in full of that. Perfect. And she has a

bad at a family of a family of a family of the family of course. My

little daughter, she, she, she, she, she, she, she said,

"' come, your daughter, she, she, she, she said,

she was decided in October. There, there are three dates, different of death,

okay? I know not by car, there's end October, debut October. There are three of the ideas.

In this moment, we're doing in this moment. It's Vivian, Pierre Paul, my son and my brother who are doing

their research. They'll have called my mother to say, come and come to see. My mother is on

there with my father, okay, to see, she has been she, she had been in a

body of styrofoam, in a foe in Toh. And my my mother saw the an infant in a child with a

child with a child who has decided a lot of long time and the mama, she has seen a more than

three months, around a year, and I say, it's not my girl who is my wife? My mother,

she's sure that's not her own and my mother, she has been in her life.

You know, to be apart of having had these children who have been to have

her parents and my little sister that she has lost. So, she has had been

she's she's she's and she and I'm in the mother, all the

life. You know, I'm that's in the air. You know, they're

going to have the same thing, they're going to be not. Is, is,

is the impression that, they've had been they they're going to

get, they're going to get the because they don't, and we just adopt

and there has a end of there we'll say that's the kind of of things that would have been like that. Well, yeah,

there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's a, there is a

There's, there, there's a lot of, Right, I'm going to, I mean, to say, otocat, there, there,

reprettoe. there are there, there were there , there, uh, adopted, yeah.

Yeah. Without, , without, and, they've been adopted, by,

they're so, they're all, so, don't, The research that had been made for my little sister, Lloriana,

that's called, it's the government who pays all and they're doing, we're doing,

they're doing, they're going to, they're in the archives medical, the opetoe, cemetery, we're going to

visit the cemetery where she's supposed to be interred, my little sister. And the famous family that had,

is that had been metontonted also? I'm in the, with the research,

the papy medical, we've realized that I've lived in the same family that's the family that adopted. Justly. We've seen

in the same in the same in the same. And I've been brought in, I've been able to and I've seen for three

about, all about it with the research. I would have been there me also. You know? I'm sorry,

is the option that's the famous baby that that's the famous bar of styrofoam? So, it's the question.

It's for so that we're at a research. So it's not impossible. It's not impossible. We're at a research. There, we have passed to tests of DNA. There are two members of my family who have passed in the test of DNA.

We're going to exhumed the core of my sorrow. If it's she's in it. Because my mother is sure that it's not she's not. She's not. She's not all right. We've had talked to her life, my mother. So, now, we have made

de test of DNA. There's been there. There's been the year past who had all ratiscycy the terrain of soccer. Because she's in a false common. She's in full of...

It's in a place. It's a certain that's a terrain to soccer. That's a terrier. We have called to call out of

the tribunal to demand to make sure you? We have ratis the terrain with the chien pistair

and the chien pisterer they have three places. When he saw that there's

there there will soot or he will be to stoched or he was done to he's made at

three places. After so, we're going with a georadar. It's been like two years, three years the georadar. We've been present

on the terrain. Geo radar, he has passed, he had rottised all the terrain. And there, this year, we've got exhumed

the car. So, you know, there are three places where you have, but there, there's not just

a car in a house commune? A false commune, but they've seen, they've seen, they've seen,

they're it's these experts, I hope we're having Archaeos, an expert. No, no, I imagine you, you're not... But it's not plain to but...

Is it really, they've seen, they've seen, they're in fact, so we're going to have to be in the court, for power to

ask a permission to go to at this place. That's something that's something that's what's in the 90,

it's in 2026, because there there's, I imagine, it's not it's not it, it's not been,

hey, we do, perfect, we'll give the engine and the resources. I imagine, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a, it, so, all this, for, all this, so, for, all right, to have an response?

We'll have a response? No, but, 100%, it's merited. It's not, it's not, the, like, all this, stuff for a response, it was plus, but it's been, all this process

that had to be, I can't even imagine the number of the number of times you've certainly said, hey, we've had been to have been

to beckes the bra, the number of times, you have used to have had to be to have been the bra, for that. We'll bestra not

the problem that's No. But, Gabel. You understand what I know I'm

sure that I'm sure that it's sure that it's not it's long, it's complicated it's not

easy. The reality now that we've we're we're we're on Radio

Canada LCN we're doing we're we're we're we're

we're we're we're and in the in the it's it's

it's put that's it's it's she she's she she she But you have the right to know. She's her.

I have the right to know to know. And my parents before, before to mourn, they're not to do, continue to

continue. So, so if she's she, she's, we're going to get a manned,

because she's merit their dignity. To be with his family. It's for his family, to be entere

with Papa, Mom. In-tue. And so she's that she's okay, Cedric, where she has passed?

we continue to to search. How? How? I'm going to. I'm not going to I'm going to say. But now I'm going to.

How we do? How we do? Cereck? How we do we? You would have that, you? Justly, at the place of it? Well, is,

is it more, have you more to live? Sanching that your sister is dead or saying that she can be living

and that is the while, you know, it's more to be sure to be to get to

something that you have not the response or to have the answer? What do you think that's the easy for you? To know, we say it's her or know that's

not she's not she's not, what's what what's the thing is? What is the more, for you know,

for your family? We've had all sorts of scenarios. You know, we know, that's because my mother

was sure that's not her father that's not, you know, but I'm, I'm, honestly,

I've long not been to my frere and sores, at the level of the research, because I've been in choler after my mother,

to have been there, it's not long I'm interested. It's not long time, it's been before their death, it's been three years, it's all right, and it's a

research, and I do, I don't know it's just an desistin-n-y-y-esry, but it's not that, it's a desisting-n-y-es-ry, it's my choler that's my

caller that that's like, but now, I understand the absence of my mom because she has been in the

way, we've lived, we've been to, hey, we had to have to be in these children,

we've got to have seen as the three children, and it's not, it's the that's what I'm saying.

Yeah. But, but as you have, you've used, in your family, with your

, is what you say, well, she has been, she, she said,

my mother has suffered because she has been my sister and that, t-tat-tat-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta, but

She had been She had been Exactly what you've been I've been I'm trying to I'm sorry I'm just

I'm not you know, I'm pointing if she she's, if she has been adopted, I'm not that

she's not because she had been not the there's not the right and she she'd have not

she'd be able to have been to have been to do this? But in what? No, no, you know,

I'm just, it's not, it's not, No, no, no, no, no, no, it's correct. It's correct. In the sense, you know, I'm and to have the response. You know, I'm trying

if my mother has had lived in, but I'm going to make the other side of the little bit of the little bit, she has, she has

been, she, she, better than you than you've been better than you, I've got to question, because you say, it's rough for my mother

who has perished to my mother who has been but it's long to say, yes, but is it

has been rough for the the little of the , to have lived with with this mother, that's this angle

that, because you know, my my mother, at what's at the point it's hard for my mother, but I'm going to at what you're to get in the long, at what it's a point it's

hard? Is that it more for your mother to not see what to have been able to and what's the little girl to live what you've

lived what you've been able? Like the bonner, not measurable. Chacon levy at his manner. It's had

been a lot of I can't. Choucern has a pair of lunette. You know, your pair of the

minute, I'm the fact I can't not measure how my mother has found it for her

for her for her for her for her for her year, but you know at

how point it's hard for you? I know that's all you all the

thing. Yeah, I see that I said that's not that I'm not

not so you don't that person, but it's has been today. I would not

the person that's the I would have been able to have been to see that but I'm not obliged to pass

this chemean that for the person that's the person that's 100% you're saying you're saying

that's for that your is maybe, it's not she has been perhaps traversed some

merveewee at cause of this event that that was not, I approve not

what's I'm not I'm just I'm just I'm just the other side. I'm fine

the avocate the diabob yeah yeah I'm For you challenge, I'm just... No, it's correct. You know,

sometimes we say, maybe she's, maybe she's, maybe she's maybe she's maybe she's maybe she's a lot,

in a family of a family of aqueye, and I'm very content, if she's we're going to we're sure.

We're we're doing, but she has not had the love of her and her her mother,

it's a mother, it's frereerecer, but all right all right all right all right all right

all right. 100. But, oh, maybe when she'll have been living, she'll have traversed I think she

would have to all over traversed all the misery when I've because she she had already other children who had been

in a pension so she had been so, now I'm today, you know, today,

you're the right to know if I'm my aunt you know, you're the right to know to be able to

be able to be able to be able to see, you know, you know, I'm not very much,

I'm content, you've got to make this other version because I've I'm afraid because you're saying you're going to you're going to

with that it's like, no, no, no, it's not it's not a attack, it's a

no, no, no, I see, but it's like, I'm, the sole

I'm, the sole, and I'm married, and I'm , you're thinking to, you know,

we've been, uh, yeah, there's, yeah, there's, uh, there's been

a, uh, how it's a, how it's a Jolette, it's her, Alice, it's

perhaps the same age, you know, because Loriana is a little younger than than I, you know,

I said, it's who, this girl, I said, I'm, let me, I'm going to let's go

see the DNA, but we've never seen, finally, but the only the sole

thought I had, I, by a part of my little sister, all what I

, all I, I, I hope that's, I'm going to that I can't

to get to get to to the or the second, if it's not you know, how the dewe will be done by the suite for me and my my frar and sir. Here, it's the third, and the third

is this, that's the one of my two premier, to all, my little sister, we'll go go ahead, we'll gore in the wood-en-same, in the other, we'll gore and we'll gore-weigh, and we'll remorse the blue, like our mom,

We don't know, in the room also, the blue, you know, you understand? If it's not the feet on Earth, it's going to be somewhere that we're... If it's not the feet on earth, it's not, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, at all the other, I'd say. It's good. We're very spiritual, so. It's so. It's so we're going to do so far. A-jour, I see.

I've got confidence. I, look, is, is, is, is there a better final than the other? So, it's the time and the research that's... Yeah, but at time, each of my

frere and sisters will live the emotions in a manner also. No, I'm not. No,

I'm the most respect of my friends of my sister, my niece, Vivian, she has

known, she has been, I don't know I'm not, I'm in the coat of her, you know,

I'm some more of difference, some more of difference, but my sister, she,

had by rapport to that. She has seen my mother pleading, me also, I've been

not seen, she was, I'm not she said, she was she was her and the

hair, the hair, the hair, the gray, all that, I think, she was like, yeah,

it's so what I'm saying. After to see, I'm not, I'm not I've got a choice,

I've I've got to talk to Joyce. Okay. My, joy, I've

heard, I've heard in the Newvel. I've heard his name I'm a

grand, grand fan of rap Quebecue. I've heard his name in many

Emil Biloda Emil Bilodo? I'm he, he chanted the song of the and I

heard, I heard you, I heard his name, it's something of very I, I heard

his name in, I'm not, I remember not the song, but in

an artist that's called Soja, who's probably some people who are probably the artists the most listened to Quebec

in this moment. So yeah, okay, okay, without pressure also. Okay. There's a person who is

very present of the first time today. I know, I've already in the case, whatever,

we've all we've all heard in the journal. We've all used the video. Perfect.

It has resonated extremely extremely far. Yeah. He's, it's, what's the It's arrived, it's impardonable, it's

It had not her place. My question is, is Is it changed something? Those who have not of what we're talking, I don't have on the beginning,

Google, Joyce and Chakwan They're... They're going to Google, and she's... Your Aunt Sue? Your little sister? It's my

petite sister. We're... We're... So, we're... At least. She's the last... She's the last. At least.

The second, it's the second, we can't know where she's is, and joy, it's the at the last year. At our we're we're

all we're doing all the grandfrey you're there you're understand it's a

bit the same same thing in the brother hey sister it's the same thing for us

geoff biologically not my sister biologic My my cousin direct

it's the niece of my my niece of my but by but by other

we're we're getting at both all the so for me

my pretty my pretty And as you say Tantor, the promiscuity of the community. I'm my little sister.

Have you a grand an accord of age? Not time, maybe, five, six years, maybe, maybe a bit more.

And when these events, are you still there? I'm there with her. It was at 11-hour.

I'm at my rendezvous for my dad. And someone me envoys the video. I was in all my

state and I said Chris, what's what it's going to life, that's a life that's

she. She said, she said she'll have a life. She said, she, she,

she, to make, to make, what, she's, she's been really, I'm sure,

there, and then, I'm invited to the community, I've to go,

to see, he said, go, to see, I'm present at the hospital of Joliette,

and I demand to to see my And he said, no, you have not, you know, you have, you have, you know, there's really, not a respect, there.

Not a respect, there. She has received, so, I, I'm also, okay? But I said, I will have to have, it, it's urgent, and he's supposed to what? It's not going to be in the house of the family.

No, I want to to go to the house of the family. And I attend, there. And then I've been to the board. I've seen the video, you know, I see. I've seen the video,

me. And the sole who has talked to in a way of a person who have you have you

need to be madam? It's the concierge. I said, I said, I'm going to see,

I'm going to see, well, he said, I'm going to go to go to get to

the infirmary the infirmire that I say, I said, I said, to rest

there's there you're not, hey, hey, I'm m' I'm going to

be not. I'm not an exchexxx But it's just a way, it's not the head, you know,

so that I'm going to me around, I go, I'm going to go to the cell of the family, and then I

see you arrive at a new girl, who's the what you do you do you want to

do you know, it's an agent of a liaison for the Zatikamek, okay? And I just, and I see that she's able to learn the non-verbal.

Now, I want At the same time, not the and at the same time I want to be in my car, I'm trying pray in my Cuckum Kati,

Cuckum, you say, Grandma, who did it, Okay. And I said, I don't know what what's going to be able to,

but it will be not let's I want to be it, but you know, it's the trove malample to part to I mean it with you. If she has to survive,

do you have something for that she'll survive. It's what I said in my heart. There. And she, she came to me and say,

she said, she said, yeah, you know, you know what is what he's past, I said,

no, I've heard in the video. But I, I've already my response before me, his face.

He's decided. She has decided. Because she had not been pro-serious. She was on a second, she was in a little

I don't know I'm not, I think that we're very well, that we're seeing two infirmiers. It's so.

So, Calice. And then we know her fae in the hospital, and we also,

the belle sache, I think, in the hospital, his fined not in the courier, and he's

per mended in the hospital, we're They want them to them, I know, I know, now. Safi, he knows. It's not, it's on the social. The Maudy Facebook, there, Instagram, and Snap,

that, it's that, I, that I deplore. The people know, all the other part, there. She's like, I, I've not been able to see it. So, I'm not, they've been to let's go to see it, because they were already decided. It's it's a couple of

hours and then there had to contact the family and it's the

the medicine who said that you have contacted the family and then

after that the medicine me said we can not notopsy but

why we're not notopsy I know I'm not

not to who can be but we can be but yeah

but the medicine it's not me that the medicine

that's the other time, he's not that the video circuls only the other we know,

all the world to be the hospitalier so they want to do it because they do they're because there

people of people who who's present in the family who come and they come to

see, they're going to have to have been to do you have to make a autopsy

because I see what I know the other members of my family

they say they say, they don't, because we'll have a plan on to others. But in the other way, it's not a medicine to decide if you're

an autopsy or not? I don't know. I don't. I don't know. But I said, but I said, yeah, we're going to have to do an autopsy

and he said, no, so I'm the phone number of telephone, so I'll say, to the chef, he said, we're going to

we're going to we're supposed, we, and I've got the tru of their view, and it's there that we're going to

say, we're going to do have to do her after by the subsequent. First question, she was

the question, she went to do the day of the ender when she was when she had gone to

the hospital, she had already some of the health, my little sister, and she,

and she had demanded to have the morphine, I think, some, what we had already

done. But, but, yeah, for the I think she had demanded

of other that we could not to have not to have to and have to be

to be to see their severe they're they're and they're and they said,

and he said that was that she had passed to what I know,

I'm not there not a way to treat the people

that it's there's there there was there there had been

there had been there and They've been said on the level of the rest of that. It's a pretty years for the

inquiry. There's been a lot of people. There's been a lot of pressure on the government

to do that. A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure now, you know, so there, they had

due racism of part and other, the preposos to beneficiaries, the military hospitalier, uh,

it's something, and they're said, yes, the, the, the, the,

propos, the, the, that she has not helped what she had been to get

to get to be to get to so, so it's not even too, yeah,

she, she, she, even if she had, even if she had had had been

some , she had had had a problem of consumption and she,

okay? What I say, is, she, if she had been she had

been been a well, she would be decided but she didn't have

to deced in these circumstances. That's just I'm in sure I'm not saying I'm not

saying they're not because she's because she's because she's because she's because she had not she's not

she's not she's not she's probably not she's not she's not like that I'm looking

to see a on a place on she's so she's so you know because she's because I I was going to consult the hospital.

I'd have consulted the hospital by the suit after the deced of Joyce because I had a tumor pre-cancerous in my life, and I had scared of it, myself, because it's the impact, it's the trauma that you live. In the same time, maybe the contrary, they're going to have, eh, si, it will have

a service princée, because they will not echaping, Echakwanda, you know, but it's just a But it would even not, you know, in fact, your name and it would be, it would just

be, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you'd have to have a

same treatment for all the moment. But that's that, but I'm, I'm, I said,

I said, I'm, I said, I'm, I'm, I said, I said, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and I'm, if I'm, if I'm,

it's, I'm not, to come to to come to inque, you know, not very well

treated. And you know, because the I'm going to be because I'm not going to

because I know my rights, I'm sure that's that's sure, that's

the bit of the ducy or the misery to have to know, to know,

the person that's the person who is more manipulator that, that's more condes

in, he will be able the I'm sure that will not you will not

give a good service. So, I I just on a first question that I've asked when we're on this issue that. Is that this eventment, is it, is it

that the impact mediatic that has had, it has changed something? Derely, we've had, on the month of September, we've had the 5th of Pryceive of Justice. You know, we're now the Bureau of Principle of Judge. I've already for the Bureau of Principle of Jazz now. I don't know.

What's it? Ambassador, it's an bureau. It's an organization for to go, we're trying to we're doing with Mr. Logo,

finally he is part of, because we tried to make a train Mr. Logo, the racism

that I've had wanted to train the racial system at the level of the nation. Right.

At the it's not the first of the first systemic, it exists not. He would

not be a name of a generation in any that's I'm not sure

I'm , let's say, let's, let's, let's, let's, it's, We're not too

to pronounce. And we're in we're in a group of organi- an directorist, on a couple in communication, I'm an ambassador

there. Now, we know, we're, we're doing to make change the mentality of diverse organizations, by example,

the milieu hospitalier, the media university, the depig, the police, we're going to donate

some information, we've fabriced a guide of application how bonifier their approach, how much

serve the population of the First Nations. It's what we're doing in this moment. And I'm an ambassador of this merveyous organization we're in

the milieu hospitalier of Juliet, the universities. It's really nice what we do this year,

really, we're really, we explain that the law on the Indians, the impact with us, it's what

the pensionant, it's what the guide of application, we're going in the diverse organizations for

to make change the something, you understand? That the First Nations, it's not just the crisis, and the people who pay not a tax

in a community. But it's that I'm in the Quebec people of course, we'll be able to do it, okay? We'll be it,

they're saying, oh, you're just these vendors to the cigarette. I'm excuse, but I'm not a Mocha okay?

It's a Natty Kamak, and us other we know, we're not a okay? I'm not okay?

I'm not Oka, so everyone we're all the people we're made in the Moahk, I'm not Moahk, the Moahks, they're not

We're not very guerrists. We're more faciefe than we're with us. We're going to go to the war with us. But I think so, plat. We don't, the people who are saying that we're disalcoholic. Yeah,

malorism who have some of the alcoholists like many of the autone who have some of alcohol, you know, everywhere, in the world, in all the

in all the spheres of the society, there, the millionaires who have some problems of consumption. Certainly. It's a thing. So, if there's an affair

that's not a scale of an issue, it's the problem of consumption. Yeah, there's a problem. There's a

poverty, there's, in all the origins in all the countries. And at the point, there's a

impact, but it's late. It's not, it's a price, like, 200 years, to try to

do it, and we're in us, I'm, I'm going to do it, he has to us assimilate.

I've been able to say because I'm very well but you're talking very well I'm talking very my language also, I'm

very well as I'm talking to because you want to call in your I'm trying to I'm glad in your mold my name

me'll do at the last it's like so it's like it's like it's like I'm not to arrive at

time time you might you might I'm at you want to you've been not you've been not to be

to be you've been Now, I use a term that you used, it's Indian time. Indian time. But you see what, I'm going to correct with the Indian time, okay?

The Indian time in our own, it's not that, in the fact. In fact, we're not six these Antiqueuette. You're all,

you have four. We've had six. Brewer, winter, prenton, autumn, you know, we know,

we're six, it's, it's, the, the, the chasse, because we're because we're

of the people nomad we've lived in territory. We were not sedentatary like we're today. It's the

government who's we've got sedentaryized us. We've lived in territory in territory

we're not we're in the wood, we're nourished of the animals. Our pharmacy

is the territory. It's for that we are against the crop forestier

because our pharmacy is the territory. What's you're you're

you're you're where? We're in the South and we're

in the antidepressure. It's not bad that, yeah. We're going to go to territory.

The nature is the best of Wi-Fi that's the earth. The plant medicinal are on territory.

The calm, the river, the ceremony, I'm not to talk the ceremony, we're not we're at

a source. But I'm talking, and I'm a while I'm I'm doing a pass to the palette of a

man, I have a good friend who came to start to get a moment where we're

just, there's there's there's a episode, podcast, the way, that's

on the spirituality. I think it would be a bit, and I'm you're saying, I'm going to

get to be, I think, I'm not, I'm not, I think, I'm not, I'm,

and I'm , I think that's, it's a really a platform for all right to go to

work, that you're able to elaborate, really, with someone who has a proper

his own his own spirituality with the he's very very pre also of the medicine

ancestral more more to the Westex Mexico and he's he is

more the first the first of but he they're interested to

I think you're a good a good that you go that you go to

I'm really I want really to really to all of

all we finally finally it's really so so

it's not not mort for anything. It's not for anything. Joyce us has made a great

place of conscience a high a voice, a place of a conscience to say, okay, there,

it's a there, we're going to be able to talk, we're we're a because we're

we, we, we know a preo. We, we know a we, we know a we're a

way, we're in face, well, it's all, and you see what with

the numerous the numerous interviews that I've done at Radio Canada, the journalist

and all of because he called people I'm doing I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm how I'm I'm gonna that I'm I don't I'm all

with that we're we're talking to just that I'm that that we

that we're a that's that it's that's that I'm on okay

thank It's a great pleasure. You're probably to try to try to find a what's the what's in my life as well.

You're talking do you do vance? Yeah, I'm going to do you know, there's a plant

that's a yeah, a little ADA, there's a yeah, yeah, we're not,

how we're it's the, it's like the little affair blanche that that we're that we're

replacing your vivorce. There's, there's a little affair that's it's a big gum

mache You know what you call that? I'd say, No, it's the title of I think. I'm sorry. At least it's not. At all,

it's not great. It's just a Blame. It's a parre, there. You're not, I said,

I said, we said, we said, with all the interviews that I said, with all the interview that,

and we're on the we're part to hear. That's your idea that we're taking

on the first. I'm not the idea to me. No, no, it's a blank. It's

it's I was bringing a great place of conscience. Ah, yes, it's so. And when I don't know these interviews,

there I'm there's a people who are there's a point in my Facebook for me say, I've been

to tell you to tell you it's a same thing, it's not just the first the first people

that have there there are also there's people who are people of the people who

in the October who they have they they're they're in the military

there, there have too and, and, yes, it's

advanced. And when I see the future of the bureau of prejudice of the

business, it's there's really to continue our work, we're

on that we're to defend our and our and also it's

that I have to not not, I'm even, vehicular by

example, the racism to say, ah, it's a, oh,

the other is like that, it's that, The allotone is like that. Yeah, the allotone, but also I also, I mean not to say that, you know, I don't know, that's true,

elitone also, elizabeth, or the prejudice or the history, because you have not known necessarily the real history, our real history, because the history you have known in the schools, the history on the Indians, it's written by the allotone, the missionaire. It's for us who we've created, that. My view. We've been in the primary

they're on the zero quayy. Oh, that's so, you know? And, you know,

it's, it's a , it's a basic. It's a place so, so. So,

for really to know, go in community, go to a community. And I think that,

when the Quebecers say, they're, they're, is, is we, do you know,

to have the right to come to come to come to not? We're not, we're

also in because, I, I, I, I, don't demand the

to come here, you know, you know, I'm going to do you know, we'll be talking, we're going to talk to

communicate in a but I think to get a realience, we're talking to resilience, we've really that I'm

my prejudge to the point for that I have the encounter, that's what we're called

the country to know, and we, yeah, it can change the last question

on we're getting after two hours of podcast, but that's not right, But we're a, there's a, a conference of press.

And the conference of press, we're going to be, we're on a territory non-caded. You know, there's, it's rendered the mode. Yeah. There's a, there. And of two, when we're reso, there, there, the Roy of Anglator who there,

there's a great ceremony, the First Nations are there, it's the gross show, Premier Nations they're to look that it's

he made the right when you regard that when you regard that the

old the old mayor's of a speech and we're on you know the president that

cool we're we're we're so so now you know how you see you think does it's

What's what you do? Well, at least there's that or, hey, it's easy to say that, but nothing to do. Where the line is, well, the line is, well, thank you to let's say, but what's it and what's what, fuck out? And, hey, thank you, there's someone, we'll see, there's, there, if there,

if, there, there, there, it's, hey, look, we're, it's, it, it's murr-a-mure, Premier Nation. But why, why, it's just there? Why, that's the great show and at the everyday

it's going to every of my eye to my eye to your eye to your to be the

to your to say, I'm at my name, I, I, I've had some

I've had some in my life, often the Quebecoa who me invite

to make to say it's, it's it's correct that to start to come

to you're in a territory non-cccc I'm I look I said,

Yeah. I said, okay, I fell it. I let's do it for they say they're in for they're

they're for they think they they're that they don't cede. I'm sure with that.

But I'm with you when you say in the facts of all the day, how it's

it's concretize that? I'm sorry, but it's like that, if you say, we're in

a territory non-ccccad. is, is that I'm going to put in where I'm not going to because there's

some of the there's a like a like a way to be able to make sure, because there's the territory

you know, a fire and it's a place, it's a man chate to it's a it's a

very, if it's it's a man chate to do in a we're in we're in you're in

you're doing you're I'm there's there's there's, there's, but not my question,

but the You know, it's sure. Hey, the babines not see the batteens.

It's a affair. The people are the people are but they're doing it. You know,

but you have to take conscience of that, of what you do you say, when you say,

when you say, it's a territory non-c-ed Colin, there, I don't also,

you know, I'm my rear right, the grandp you're done a cut to clout,

lintaster. Uh-huh. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's in That's all right, yeah.

And then the other portion, that's the portion, we're on a territory where we're developing. There's not, it's not a lack of respect. I know. I'm saying, I'm like, and I'm saying, I'm like...

And there's a fair, the Cidobanian. When there's an evicted, when it's the, the fight of Canada, when the prince, the royal, he comes, to make a tour, when there's, there's there, there's, there, it's

tap c, it, it's mur-a-meur, they're made of the avant, it's, and it's beautiful, I think that

I'm in a lot, I'm in you know, look that's and you're and you're so, you know,

you're in the place, we'll have to do you have to do and sing, and then after that

we're in the rest of the year, that's, that's my angle. I'm, the way,

I'm, the way, I'm, but for you something important, at a, at most,

we can we can demonstrate what we can demonstrate what we're, We can do you, we're doing our show, we can show, we can be able to be. But, you, to be able to be, we're doing in a other country, but the rest of the time, it's ballayed.

When we're invited like that, it's important for us to be in a mode traditional, okay? We're going to go. But it's sincere, what we're doing. We go, it's correct. And I say, not that you're in trying to judge it. No, no, no, no, no, it's the contrary. For you, it's sincere, but it's the quote. You're the fact.

You're the fact. With sincerity when you do you do with the mentality We do, and it's sincere when we do it's fair But it's an ordinary that you'd have to do it for the... Voyeons, I haven't ever afraid my microphone, for the Roy of England because there's an Olympic, but at all day to-de, you'd not? It's just, I don't know.

I don't know what in the foot of the road in England. What is there in food in my life, even the rain? It's what the impact that in my life? I understand all what it's going to see what? the law, the treaty,

all that's but it there's a impact in my view he's there, but I

think it's sincere what we're when we know, when we can't, when we're

sincere, and it's so we're and it's beautiful. And it's not not just

you know just that you use, you know, in this moment that. Why you

do that this way? It's my question. Why you're not of the way

regular, to us respect to in our language, in our values, our traditions, in our own territories, in our territories,

because it's all our territory to us, we're all responsible to bring so to our mother. Not just me.

You're also. You're also. But, but I, I think that plat, I'm not, I'm not in this.

I mean, I think it's, But in fact, When I see a show, we're saying, I'm going to I'm going to show. I'm not the

I'm going to, I'm, I think it's the hypocrisy. Of their part? Of their part. I'm glad to you do it. I'm going to be. Okay.

Hey, hey, you know, you just. Hey, you know, check that, check the beau show we're off. But after that,

we're just, we're not to have nothing to have nothing. But I'm just, it's a lot. I've heard there,

there, some, I've heard, the communities that have not of potable. Yes,

at Kitizagi, they have now, I think DeLoe, it's the electricity. Yeah, and it's it's a pre for the internet, it's a pre it's a pre

many times. It's been to kick in the cooos of the government and they're so they're they're telling me they're telling us

you're doing what for that, you know, okay, well, because the first nations you know,

you know, demand to do you know to get to oh, the journalists me demand of the water

for you're well, I'm there's gonna because I'm not re-elue. But it's that's that he enervue.

the government as a gyr they want they want to their territories we're we're the first

arrivals what is what is that I mean I need I want to have to have to be

and you puttap all our territories it's not just you know I just

you know you just you rest there you're you're you're you can't go to

my territory to go to get to get to It's just, we're like We're like a number of Boundt.

It's always like that I've seen, my number of bond in me. Okay? I do demand of those affairs for have something of privilege.

It's a wing. It's in place, that's what it? A wing, a section in a prison. The prisons are separated by Wing.

It's in place, that, it's in place. But we need to demand all the time. We need to negotiate all the time for our territory,

we've got to negotiate for that all the affair, you have all the time to do you need to go and you're entering here?

Missioner, to the government, you're going to back to say and you're all over to keep in the question,

again, let's tine with the state government to have the territory. But no, but it's correct,

you pay not the tax? Jesus. I hope you've got my irony, I hope I'm not

I'm not I'm sorry. But it's that they're that they're like, it's like I say,

I say, I'm not that you're paying no tax, but yeah, you pay not the So, now, we're all right, you're saying, okay, okay, it's

true, I don't tax. And then, it's like, that's like that, the government would say, is that, like, is that the expression? That's right, right, by the goal of, you, par the goal of, okay, you pay, no tax,

the whole way, you know, you're not a lot of privilege, you have nothing to say, so, so, guys, in the phone, we're the children, you know, when do you? So, when is we go via, when is we go ahead?

We're going to be able, But we're trying In cause of the law on the law on the end of trying to always want to be able to defend,

s'explicate, negotiate with us own. It's a sit to negotiate. We'll say, what I say, what I say,

the way is that's the life is done what it is, we're not going to do you don't know, we're doing the end of

you know, you know, you know, but it's to say at a minute, now, at a mannour, right,

to want to to want to to be able to raise that for pass these pilons and then your time

to watch that's not a matter we can't you're not you're not you're not you can't

you can't you can't you can't you know what you're you're getting to end and it's

that you're that you're to ask to get to get to learn when when is you

go to when is when is the government will come how is how we're

our I think of my kids' children, you know, how it's about them, you know, there's a

radio of the internet, the radio social, the people, they're in the world, you know,

you know, it's a maloreau, there. And in the time, I'm content, and I'm

really, to see, I know, I know, I know, I know, at the disc, we know,

we know, the artists, emerger, I think Because, you know, I'm a fan of a year, I think, a guy like Samian, that I've heard of his music, that I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, a little role,

sometimes we've seen, in, in a big, you know, I'm saying, and we're, you know, and I, you know, there's an artist, um, you know, that, who, he performs, there are these, you know. We're, you know, so, I, I see, I, I, I, I sense, and, and, me, what I'm, there's,

There are a lot of things that I deplore of new generations by the other social, but my feeling that I is, it's that the generations

advance, the generations are conscientized. The internet amends the good, so the knowledge,

the openure of the spirit, the comprehension of what it's I'm, I see, there's a

there's a chemine, there's a cheme to do cheme in fair, but there's a cheme of but the internet also, it's farmed the

children to practice their culture. It's what that's what we're saying. We're not, we're in return of culture, practicking our culture,

we're bringing the children to for the baton of the parole, to learn, to learn their base? Yeah,

yeah, and to what's the what I'm, I'm excluded, but, you know, to who you're, to who we're,

What are our Croyance? What are our... You know, I regard what you're in the coup, it's beautiful, it's colory,

it's... Yeah. That's my animal, the totem. It's the urs. Lurce? Yeah.

You know, it's who? You know, I'm not... You know, I'm not too. No. So,

it's a lot of a lique, a liever, it's a bit. A little Yeah, yeah, it's that,

it's so, uh? A liev that's a car of a gorilla. You? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. But, but, thank you. It's all it's a it's, it's,

it's, it's, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, to learn, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, that the people learn, I'm, we're, we're,

we're, we're, to be, to be, a lot, there, there, there's,

I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd like, to say, so, so, also today,

your work in time in terms of all that, but you know, you know, I've talked about a little,

but I think, you know, I've had had been a intervenant, and, you know, I know, a person

of the premier nation, and of your vehicle, but of the vehicle, and as, I think,

I'd have been a lot of more, but I'm, I'm going to touch, there, I'm going to

touch where I'm that, you're the first, you're the first, you, and I, I've already with a police

who's, I've been the first. Okay. So, you're not the last year. That's sure, I'm certain. It's perfect, so. Because I like that. I'm to learn.

I've learned. I'm afraid of educating. It's a fun, huh? I've seen, it's a change. But it's a little bit, we've changed. We've got, we've changed, also, we, yeah, it's a lot. And you're, you're, you're, very affinant,

very positive. You're very, you're very posed. You know, you've been to send me on mountain or you're going to I'm going to a mountaine

today. And I'm, we're saying, it's like, it's just a photo of, hey, today, you know,

what's Edric? And today, I'm going to be resourced and I'm going to a little photo and I'd like that,

and I'd like that and you'd be a great person, I think, to have around to so, sincerely. Thank you.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, so it's, it's been a pleasure. I hope that you have appreciated that.

I hope that you have learned, I hope that it's been it's been and I'm sure that it will make think it's

certain people, plus of people, and then and then leave these stigma, it's the reason for

for the reason for that I'm to get on the it's not the people who are

in the people who are people of people, the people resisised, that's what we're we're all,

we're all, of humans at the boat. O'Brien.