Au Parloir - Épisode #144 - Carl Audet

Episode Date: June 7, 2026

Dans cet épisode, je reçois Carl Audet, aka BIRD2, né avec des enjeux de santé mentale et une grande impulsivité, il tente de trouver sa place, rêve d’intégrer les cadets… mais bascule plutôt dans la rue. À 19 ans, tout s’accélère : vol qualifié, séquestration, puis une sentence de 5 ans. S’ensuivent des années de consommation, de récidives et d’incarcérations.Après 10 ans de pause et de reprise en main, un événement vient complètement bouleverser sa trajectoire. C’est à travers l’art du graffiti qu’il trouve une nouvelle voie — une manière de s’exprimer, de canaliser… et de se reconstruire. Aujourd’hui, Carl tente de reprendre sa vie en main, un coup de mur à la fois. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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a guy who is with certain in health mental, a guy who parted kind of well in, you know, aggressive in his youngness,

school, not easy, it's all right, in the cadets, essay, the army, but finally, he's all over more in the

room, to want to do with doing, first voles, sequestration, all that, at 19 109, 10 years,

a sentence of 5 years, and there's on a pattern in an around a 10th of years of crime and of prison and all that, of medication. There's not a medication, in fact,

what has not been to add, to consumption. And, in 2011, decided to reprend his life in hand after his last incarceration,

has discovered the art of graffiti, it's a lot implicated there in, therapy, DEP,

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there's still a little bris of condition, all that so, so for that for, for he has

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at the parlor and thank you, the road, because you, you know, the region of Quebec, so,

and, you're not the first, it's not the people, the region of the region of Quebec

who come, and at every time, it's like, it's like, it's like, and all right, and,

I think, I've been, I've never been dissu to someone who's been to come to a country,

so, so, so, thank, thank, thank, to be there, to be there

to be, to come to your story, your parkour of ancient tannan, of reinsertion, we'll

talk about to do you, so I'm going to my episodes, my inviities, I'm going to where the base, you come to that,

and we're trying to that to do today. Well, it's perfect. We'll have to start at the

base, we have to start by my view. I'm in in Quebec, but in count,

I'm in back to come to come, my parents have worked with me when I was when I was

a age of five years, I'm trying to separate. Okay. And when we're separated, we're all part of, I don't know why. It's probably to be

my mother a question. Why, Sarah Muell, but certainly my mother has been to Livie, there was this option that. My father,

he was originally of Pornow. But we all of my father, even if he was separated, we've had all a marvellous

in a great that's a little old the carty of the carthes of a carthes of Borkin'an Art in fact of

the tapy Ceremual essentially to be the river of the Rive Suid. F. There was when I was when I was arrive at

the beginning of the early there were many of family people of people of

people who had had been there's why the the name the country also. So I

passed all my young that I mean you say brother, sir, no no

I'm I'm talking of my part of my part of we're all okay okay okay

I'm at all time I'm in a corner to the corner of my car to

so it was fast I just need to out of the So I think it's so that's the I think it

I've got to I'm doing I'm doing because my parents like that them are down to manage so they're

doing so to live in I'm at at St. Romual at Pintan St. John of Crisott

and St. Henry but I all the time was a guy of the Ripsud

that you're you're you're what kind of kid? It's not it wasn't

it's not too it wasn't not it's not not it's not not repos

it's not Okay. You know, it's really an elitue, I'm a decedentate, I'm a medicarended I've been able to I'm sorry,

like a richardine, and I'm just a little trouble of comportament, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, but when you're, you know,

we're just, but you're just, to get a cell, so, so you're not just in, yeah, but I never

to be bat, in plus on on the rounder, so, so, so, you, a little,

a little, it's, a little, a little, language, sift. You let's not march as it. Yeah, I'm impulsive.

I'm quite impulsive. It's not of what I'm because we're in 40, three years and we're in

six and soff, but I I'm just I'm perfectly. I'm perfectly. So, no, but it's,

it's, there's a trouble of the and it and it's a sensuous a rondeer

more more more. Is, is, is, is, is, is just that

or you shift rapidly on a a bit more criminality, or it's plus, you,

I'm buff, them debunk. Yeah, it's more. More than generalization, to be marginal a bit more, to be, you know, and in this time

that, in plus, we know, I'm known, I've been, it's been, it's been to be on the Facebook, the war of, and the world,

we know, we've had a identity in this time that. The yo, and the way, I've lived that,

it's a never view of, Googleed that, the, on YouTube, the yo and the yo and the poel, it's an,

ah, it's an idea it's done, it's ridiculous, but no, it's ridiculous, It's all that you're It's all that

You're pretty much of it. I'm sure that's a lot of. I'll confirm. And in plus, you know, you know, I know what I'm going to reaffir to

that, but you're, you're an artist in the arm, you're an art of ruse, the graffiti. It's around,

that's, it's not, man. Oh, that's not, so you're not doing to grap and they're trying to grap

and you're trying to grap and you're at maybe it's to be able to it's a little to what you there's in

time to when we're more young, we're we're going to and we're in all the time, we're doing to the time that's

in the time, in the time, I'm in the time, it's called a new, but in the time it's called TQS. And he passed a

reportage on some of the grapour in that's, he made a miserable to find to find out of a matter,

I've not made, I've heard, I'm not doing that my cello, I'm going to be this affair of this thing,

and it's a thing, I'm coming to be able to listen to to listen to to the show, It's going to be

to be a 12 more than it had had been a impact major. Malgris, it's a but I'm not

I'm not at a other thing. Well, I mean, because it's a way of canalize a bit more my coat

criminal, because, yes, I'm a TDAH, I have a TPL also with the anti-socio. Okay.

There are anti-socio, it's someone who like that's not really really really the band, you

know, it's not really to be ant-socio total, it's just it's just dress, it's just, it's just, it's not,

the line directness of the society, it's rough, the authority, the regs. It's so. So, the, the envy of marches, a pierced in a garnet, is always present, you know, in plain that,

it's, I'm not very, I've been, and I've just been to have been a couple of years, really, at time plain, my 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10, I've, I've been to

20, we're, we're, we're going to, you know, but, you're still, so, so, you're still, you're just, you're just, you're just, you're just, you tie with the world, like you, I imagine, and marginal,

violent, but violent, but not... It's not... It's not true, you're not the genre, you're trying to put into the world to enter the world. It's not, no, but when it's a lot, I'm there, and... If it's been in the time, you're...

You're not, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just to... It's still, you know, it's... It's also to change the second-air, on the 5, you've needed to change the school at cause of that, so...

Ferel that I'm... Ferel that I'm... My little school, that is, come even in a campaign to go... Campagne at St. Anselm. Okay. It's because we're in a little

the corner of a bit of the country, so the agroalimentaire, farm, and then you're in the middle. And then, and I'm not in the same place, that's other thing. I've not finished my 5th at cause of that. Okay. No, it's not...

Then I've tried, as long as long as, to end up to end up to adults, but it's not much, but, I'm a step, that can, as much change my life more on the level of

delinconce it's when I've been to have done to get to my medication why? Like you said

I'm a TDA AH, a TPL I'm at least the activity in the school that that I'm

that I'm and that's okay as con that's for someone who has to the

that's weird to the authority and the authority and the people to make medicamentate

whatever it's to make a under the agents of probation of the Liberation Conditional, me would say,

it's on the structure. You'd say that there's a bit of barrier around, I, I'm when I was young. When I was young, hey, you say, hey, you've got to be able to put it. If you'd let's your own, you'd disorganize.

Total, total. Okay. And, and, I said, I was in a cadet, so I'd tripped too. I'd like that. And at 17, then, we had the right to roll it.

So, I'd be soarrolled in their mechanizier. Okay. Yeah, in a reserve, it's the weekend warrior. We've got to share of Quebec, so I've been to run away, I've rested

kind of two years, but there's there's a lot of, there's a while, you've got to get to, okay, you could not get, okay,

you could not be not having a person, you know, because I, I'm not going to make my medication, and I'm trying to to try to get to

that's a problem, it's, you know, you know, you can't say, you want to be able to someone who has, really a gross dependence on a

medicament for functioning. At this time, It's not that's not that's changed, it's sure that's changed, but in my time, you know, when it's not, you know, you know, the sergeant, you know, you saw, the matthes out of three-emeter, the fourth cadet turned in front, Toovier, and there, and the coup of guns, the, coup of, the, coup of cross in the other, there, there were not, there, there was a lot of harassment, that, it was. Okay, yeah, yeah, it was, it The time you put

a clack in the head of your time you were in a lot of the kids, it was tolerated, even in their mechanizance, it's a lot of, you have to do you

have to do you can't, you can't even if you're, but you can't even if you're but we're in front of that, it's so. Well, I think, because, you know,

I think there's there's been a of certain on the same on the subject, we'll end up in a subject of me too,

all, you know, but, you know, but, you know, I think, you, you know, there's, you know, there's, you know,

there's just It's quite long time that there's too of over surrey that's why it's for sure that you've got to have been to sell on the stuff, that there's been to be able to that there's really

very severe on the level, you know, the conditions medical, at the start, it's more less legue, even training, you'd have been able to take time,

but the quote, you could have been a medication, if they'd if he'd ever, to what, in situations operational and the guy,

there's a matter, there's a matter, of medication, what's what's what's the question? I'm saying, I'll put it, if you're,

is it pere, if you're not your medication and then have a bout or if you're to start a day or two

is the effect is that, is the... Ah, a day, a day, is it more drastic? You know, sometimes it's a

month, you know, it's a few months and then you're not a day, is that's a drastic or it's a lot of it's a

because, you know, I'm trying, because, you know, I'm saying, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure,

I'm sure, you know, I'm saying, We're like, we're going to the effects negative that I had in my life before to take a medication, now I'd be a bit more than, and if I'd have an hour, one day, I'd say that you're going to be left. I'm more menly.

I'm more aggressive. I'm more tough than what I'm going to. When I'm not, it's over well, but when I'm not, we're not that I'm not used to be in this tight, in the servo, to function with this servo. At this moment, you're in the cadet, so you're not in the cadet, you're in a while you're in a minute, so you're not in a minute. So you rest there, and a minute, I imagine,

that you don't have not the medication. I discover the life of adult, or in the same time, I'm 17 years, we've done, for those who know it's a for those who know it's a surreve, in front of the club of a danceoise. And it's not what we're doing, what's we're doing, where it's finally?

Well, borderline, you know. The court of recru, it's for half the danceer. Now, now, I'm in the military, but, that's, that's, for the course of accrued. After that, I've had my course of infantry a little later, but it's that's the fact that's all right,

I'd have to take my because I'm going to put a few because I'm going to put it in, because it's... Oh, and in my view civil, after that, it's chie, because in the same time,

we had to have to be a paper also of my pedo-psychard of the time that he's not dangerous with an arm if he doesn't, it's a logical

also, that, for he'll let's. But after that, but after that, I've, like, I've made two years, there to have the little

work a little civil over of all of that, I've lived the 11 September That's It's a lot of work We've worked Not quite

We're working quite It's a bit special to see that To get to turn And the time The phone sun To enter to To rent in

To manage Because we're Because we're Because we're Because we're It's a panique It's the 35th Brigade

At the Citadel It's the Osir Red To everybody Capote But it's With reason So when you When you're

Not medicamante And you're In the context Of the It's a It's a structure, even if you're not medicamented, but when you're in civil, the fact that

you're not medicamented and you have not structure, it's a chie a little... Yeah, it's so. I see, I'm a bit delinquent, so I'm associable with that, and you... You consume, but just the drugs of urs. Yeah, but, you know, it's a bit a lot of...

We know, it's a depressor, you know, the THHHC is a good depressor, so, so, so someone who is like someone who is like that, who's like that, you're not medicamented, it's sure that when you're young, you you're

not, you don't know, you don't know, you're in is that you, is that you, do you know, in a way,

in the form at your descent, that's a , you know, it's sure, it's the , and I, especially, like,

I said, when I was 19, and I was to say, oh, I'm going to get to

do you, do you're doing, do you know, and how, how much, how the car with the army,

it's made, I'm, I'm doing my affairs criminal, but I'm in the family,

with the , I had been to sign my release, I had 19 years, I'd been a ponier to five years of federal. I was in the penitancy of Arsambore. It's there who's made a job in my voluntary. For not that I've got to a hard of armory, made a release volunteer.

So, your departure? So, your death, so, then, you're going to... Yeah, I've come in a crime. So, like, I could have been ... Malgray that the first will qualify, I continue to train for the force, paris. Even, while I'm on that you're on... As long, you're not culpable. Yeah, it's not...

Yeah, so... as you're not declared problem. Okay, well, I'm going to go to. So, you're in the army, and you do with a minute, you decide that's a... You have just to reproach your micro, it's a little bit.

So what's it? What do you mean to qualify? What's it? If you were, like, hey, me, it's not. I want to tripe. You'd be cash-facil. Oh, there's a cash-facil,

you know, the life, I don't know. You know, you're not going to be an adult, you've no longer to go to school. You know, person can decide for you. So, you try to make your own your own own too much. It's not all the time

good. Sometimes it's good, it's been it's good. So, so it's the moment that's the time, but I'm

after having to get into the idea, but when you talk to the volle-qualify, we're talking to be able to death penalty,

and then the fact, arm, in the phone, hold-up. Yeah, that's a very old-up, okay.

Who, at the end, I imagine, even not be so paying than that, yeah, in the time

that's a little more pay-old, you're the time to open the second Koff, in the case. It's a new... It's not a good chiff.

It's not like to make these years of the years. No, no, no, no, no, but... There were... There were... It's not that. You know, I was a question at 19, because...

Mm-hmm. You know, it's an estitlayer, like, I'm... You're a guy in the army, I'm... I said, but... I... ...you prean the decision

to go to have a voles qualified for the cash. You know, you're not a morning in saying, it's that, you know, if you're... If you're... if it's...

if it's... You know who knows who they do that or you've just you know, you're just made to get to get a question, it's really,

that's really absolutely that's an impusivety total. You've been put to the coup? No, I'm going to

put in a time. But I, I've been put a after the second, I've done to

in a question. And then then I've paid a surce that's okay. I'm sorry

in a sense it's very I'm not in a question, it's I've put in a surci, I've done,

a another will qualify. You're in surcy, so, prison at the house,

I'm in a first time, for the first time, for the first before, and I decided to put it, I'm in

a business, and I'm to go, even at the federal, when I got to crissed my can,

I'm sorry, the consequences, and I think it's all. The moment present. The medical

to commentate in plus impulsively. Yeah, yeah, that's, it's a total, total,

total, we could say. You're You're also, you say, you're retrothed, you're what, 19 when you're in your Sanbo?

Yeah, I'm... Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm looking today, I'm in, a lot, I see, not at 19, at what you're... I'm a little meg. But you're

an intense capable of to defend these jobs because you, but it's, but, you're, but, you're, a kid of 19 that's in a

prison federal, you, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're doing it's, you know, you're to face your place, you're longs the

, you know, at the view carcera, of the culture, it's of the subculture carcernal, you know, I suppose I've already heard that, and I'm not, and I've been able to, and I thought it was... Because, you know, we're at least in the same age,

so... Yeah, you know, you're a sack of can't before your door, you know, you're a sack of can't... That's not you who you're commanded, no. And then, I said, fuck, Lord, it's not true, that's the starrer of,

but it's the starrer the same, it's the same, that's the rest of there, but hey, it's special. You know, you're like the more younger like to be like in my wing, maybe in the pavilion also, in this time that. For that the people

understand, say, do me, if I'm a trombe, in the front of, it's a stock that you're not commanded that it's a gift in a parenthesis for the people who are

in the audio, it's a gift. So, if you do it if you use the stock that's in debt over to someone. You see with the consequences? And there,

then, there's no, there's no cellular. There's not a cellular. time of that time that's not, it's even not to be not a lot

in the time there's not no, no, but you know, there's you know, you're not

you're doing to work for me, so you know, it's just it's just it's just my young, well,

yeah, we're, we know, yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're,

when we're, when we're, when we're , because we're not, the first thing, the first,

the first, the first, we're coming in the until, you, you, So, like, now you're

okay. You're in the You're saying You've got to You're seeing a Of your cell to get a little Yeah,

yeah, that's That's a carre So, we go, We can't do, It's completely sure, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm

assombed, I couldn't not to that but, but it's that, Malgrate a part

that experience that, it's a lot, you're going to glorify that no more, no, no,

but you've done, you've done, you've done, it's a The term that we use, so much of time. In the time of the war, the rock machine and the heads. I'm in Archambeau, I'm just with Fred Fochee,

company, and all the... So you're the co-mechained. Yeah, but it's a rock machine, also, Archambos. It's totally that. There's not a edge that in, the Lachlare. The L'Aleur, it's over at this time.

Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, it's... No, no, but it's... There's, you know, you know, there's people, there were the more young, we've seen, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got to... in Quebec, and at Levy,

I've seen that, the killer bees and company, the little club that's playing with with the Bandsdow's and there were, there were a lot in my house,

but it was a lot to get a bit more, but it's been to get a bit more, and you're trying to see, these lines, to do that's

my next question, so we're we're just, we're just, we're calling the school of crime,

and you're you're going to get there for a young, a little bit perude, not medicamented, who,

who, who, who, he's, he, he, you, in a ingranor

You've got you've got to How much To this sentence that? I've had 4 years Almost my

5 years because I parted the first I've got to after 3 year, and you know,

it's fucked up Paray I'm just I'm sorry Yeah, I'm back yeah, I'm back yeah,

I'm back to okay, because Dona is a prison more maximum No, but it's

because we're doing done to find to be the fine, I'm trying to get a After a lot of a guardian, I've been frapped,

and my bad, seriously, I don't know if I'm not, I'm afraid today, but, you know, but you know, but you know, also, we'll see, we'll probably,

you know, and then you'll have made, you know, and then you're even, you know, even if you're... Even, you know,

it's rest, huh? Okay, so, you, so, so, you know, so, you do you do place not too D'Harene in in the time, or...

Well, I'm in Gabbard, it's fun, and we're just fun, when the cellar, we'd we'd have to be in the time that, I could say, because he'd have been to put in,

he'd rents out of the studio, he'd men, at play a plight, a chapel. There'd be a lot of everywhere, man, there'd be... There'd be...

It'd be able to put to put it, like, there'd even be able to... So, so, it's... So, you know, it's a...

It's, you know, a tonne of paquette, in a bit, in a time, in a time, we'd have to... You know, a lot,

you know, a chanceon, you know, So, you know, I'm intergaret, in a certain way, with the group. So, you know, a first... The prison, that's supposed to be

something to be something, especially for a young, to say, like, hey, Chris, I'm not... Oh, it's... You're not... You're...

To do you. Totally. And if, when I'm reamossed at Dona, well, there, there's a focoyage, in the time, it's the trave,

when the raq have passed in the 2-40. We're in... We've got to... blocky. I was remorse it in the troughed in a whole in

the company that's a little, the pay it's made out of the but it's because there's

the indian, it's the indian posy who were there in 1919, he would not person to Archambot,

we'd directly, it was obliged, Archambos 199. And now, you said it it's arrived at

a little more force the hand in there, you're in there, you have been you're not

so you're not over, so you're probably you're not to change to change, to you're to go,

It's a protect A Port Cartier who Partier, you know, so I'm in the prison to the committee because when I'm

I'm going to I'm going to with Michel Langu with the crowd with the people of the rock in a sense that,

they're often had some of traffic and they're made up onto, we're all we're all with my

thing with my car with my so, so I'm when I'm when you're going to

come with the gang, you can't not, I'm not, I'm not a rock machine, no,

no, no, it's so, I'm just in the batch, but I'm not there. I'm just there. I'm not, because I guess I'm not. I'm going to see with that world. I can't even know.

I'm sorry. You know, I can't, I'm not, I'm not, you know, in a while, you know, so. So, I'm just young, you're embarked in the other, you're going to have your proof, and, and so. So, so, so. So, so, so.

Is it, so. Is it, so. At least, they, I'm going to, they've made their proper verification, and we've seen that it didn't, it, it didn't, it's a route, is, is, is, if you're, if you're,

Frape a guardian, it's a Bonds in the dole. The world, it's a... There's a... There's a... There's a...

...of a car... Okay, Now, the guys... Now, that's... Yeah, okay, You're... That's all right. Yeah, it's not...

Yeah, so... Yeah, so... It's... It's... It's not more rough at Dono a little... It's not... Foo'd... Foo the marr, you know,

you... Foot the mack. You... You'd... We had, some, we'd sometimes we'd in the trough in the

old and we'd do it's a short-asel, he'd on the top on the door at a

other to the prison. It's lazil to be to get a or more a month a month.

Because, you're reorganization total. But is you because there's not enough of

structure, there's not enough of stuff to do you, you know, there's not a lot of time,

there's not enough of time, there's not enough of sport, you have not enough to see or it's

just, hey, we're just on call this, we're just on the ballroom. In the time, if we're just in the 20, that's just the 2.40 that had the school. In my knowledge, we'd have not an activity. In other,

apart the gym, there was nothing else. So, when you're to do you, do you do? You do it, you're doing. You're just on

to do you. And then, you're just there's a lot of drone, but it had been the flet and other things. He was bad at tennis. Yeah, yeah, so, you know,

there was kind of, you know, there was kind of connections to to find out to visit in this time with the time with the

I'm in a little in a little there's a in a question, it's like, it's really,

it's really, that's really, that's, that's, you're really, you're really, you know, you've got to

the routine, you go to be in the time. Yeah, to 19 to, yeah, to 19 to ,

it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that you're that you're back,

to be there, to be a to be in, you, you, to learn, You're at all, you, in the phone, you're out of 19. You've just made the connery that you did have just made of the connery that we're

maybe more, but you're still in this mindset. It's the first time that you're in the States of Transition. I've made it. I've made it. I've got to go ahead and in the mansion. I don't know in a Misenk, I'm going to run it. Is it going to run my life in mind? No, I've tried.

I've had tried two months. After that, I've got part of the city I've known of the Monson, in Montreal. I'm in Montreal, because they're all you've been invited there. They were also you had been to say, because in Quebec, after my three years,

there was a place. And I'm at a signation, residence. When you're in two-thirds, you'll have to have to be in

the end of the pen. So, you know, I'm going to do you. I've got to work on the work, I'm

to try to go, go, to the crack. Until the time he's not he's not p'n, he'd be

a new calculation, they're doing a new tier, I'll go, I'll run to run a crack. But,

in the fact, in the fact, when you're not, In the phone, when you're been punged, is they just have been up on the other, you've not had been

not used, they've just made, we've just made, we're just made, on the time. Okay. In the time when the world

vander the berry, I'm not, that's not that's far as you're going to see, it's very well, it's not

to stop, you know, who, who, that's, so, you're the guy of Quebec,

but the contacts that you've made, so, so, so, so, you're coming to work,

to work, in the field in this milieu, and then, yeah, I'm trying to get more in the middle of the market and so forth and so much

and so, it's sure it's not the same game with the Nchlago also, is you, is you,

do you, do you, do you, not, okay. I'm in all, the medication, that's at

not the last last time, my last time, we're going to get to, you're just curious, to know, but I'm still,

you're still, you pass 10 years, okay, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, So, finally, you've practically your full full because you're

not to get to get a liberation. And I imagine a minute he they're not to give them to give them to

give them to give them to have a choice. But you do you're not to get a last time of transition

that I was made at the case, it's a sentence that was at the case, and he was sure my

intervenant, the agent of liberation was sure I had not had been 24 hours in the

house in the there, there they were there's like, a bit, you're

a bit, you, a bit fantastic these young, they're saying, oh, yeah, they think that I'm to rest here, too, oh, my. My God, my God, because if you're just on the reggae, it's just, you know,

it's going to be a bit of the psychology inversely, you know, it's, it's a march. Yeah, it's a lot, so, so I've got, I'm pretty, my two, I've got to be able to porto final in the pastime, to do you know,

to be a loberger, at the table of the roe, there's just a porto fino that exists again, then, you know, there's just It's been to go and then after that, I decided to return and it's a year to work. And then, I've seen as far as I've seen as my experience that I've ever seen as

I've been to bring it here. Because there, we're going to We're going to go ahead. But at Levy. You let's have to have that in your coin? Yeah, it's so. So, you're like a bit, all of what you've have, you've, well, is it arrive, you're

in your hood, you, you're retien with your talent? Is it arrive with a street cred? Chris, he just came to pet me past me 5 years federal, so that's one of the top and you're a gangster, you know, I mean,

but, you know, the students who are at least, those who are with me in the game, who are a little year, you know, with Chris,

okay, there's an experience and see, and, you know, you're trying, go to, you know,

and a tell, a tell, and then, then, then, then you finish that, that's quadres

a dog, the door, and the stories, but, you say, you say, you say, you say,

you do, I try, plunge, I'm reprimand in the world. Is it to guard in the head the coat, until I've made so they're probably,

they're really, I'm repugnors not, I'm really, I'm not quite, or they're not quite, or they're not, or you're just, you know, the day, the two, frankly,

I'm not the experience at Montreal to roll the affairs that, oh, we're a saliv, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little,

it's a police of Levy, he's, they're not to give an etiquette with the arouse, there, they're pro, an attitit,

they're not, they're all, that they They're doing. But that's... That's what you That's what you're That's what I'm saying?

But it's not long when you You're going to You're going to You're going to The police is They're asking When I'm coming

The Quebec It's people They're They're made Acoste By the police In the bars And then you

And then I'm At the same He'd He'd be at He'd be in The guy that, you He said He's got

The men They're talking The people I'm going to I'm going to Yeah I'm just I'm from there

but it would say what, five, six, six, seven, I'd have been sure that I'm going to be able to ask. It's a lot of the time of the end of, it was, that in 2009, Shardt? The last operation, I was going to see with these members. There's been a bit of trouble, I've been able to do with it, but it was not of my fault. If it's arrived at these places, the policies have seen,

it's there that the policies have come to enter a little bit more down. At the last, okay, it's sure, because you're in contact with the... Oh, Chris, and who's who face that? We don't know. We'll fooling a little. Oh, Chris, there's a federal in the car. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, Chris, he's just a guy. Okay, he was, oh, Chris, it's just that it's just, there's a policy that we've been on to re-partly of Montreal, but you're doing, you know, I'm just, you're doing, boy, I'm just, there's, do you, do, do you, do you, do, you're in something that's just, of people who are affiliated to,

so, so, that, you, that's procured to a, and a, but, but, you're not, you're not in a club, you're not in a club, You're pretending to be a gang. No, it's not a gang, there's a little.

You're just... You're just... It's just... It's just... It's like... It's like a It's almost than that.

You're just... You're just... We're just, we're just there to have to get to their other. Yeah, it's sure. We're... We're all right for the

club, but... It's not a choice and then it's a part of the game, you know, if you said, you know, that you know,

I'm probably to try, you know, is something that you... I had said, you're a... I've had to offer. Okay.

But I'm always But I always think But I always I'm trying to To get to My job And I'm We'll know

To give more We'll add an More plus Of course It's a Yeah, You're in a Inckxed in

You know Ince You've got You're back Yeah I'm gonna You're gonna You're gonna

You're gonna Yeah There's a There's a You're A limit that you Have a To finish

Yeah Yeah, I'm a limit I'd Not gonna To I'm It's a

It's just That's just It's Joe Bannut And in this time, you're doing you do

do you, you're doing do you, you're doing too, in the time when it's when it's

when you're when you're not a person, you're a little bit to be a young,

my chum in this time he'd he'd for the senior pro uh, so,

so, yeah, but yeah, but, yeah, but no, it's sure we're

all the time, but it's it's all the time, it's all the time, it's all the year, whatever, the world,

it's the world, it's that you satire. When it arrives to what with what are to be able to

get to be able to get a lot of a lot of a dozen so. But that's all the time for that's

for that I'm for that I'm a bit more my patlin the world set in that at that it's

that all that's all that's with the evolution of time and put that you do you do

do you do that repete to be put up put up This is a stit of connery, but it's really a cave. I've flimmed a bat in my chair.

Okay. But the policeier had some information. So, I'm so, I'm just fed with some stock in my char. It was cached, but there were some of the information to know where it's. They were going to get, so I said, I've got a guy who is with me. I've seen a two pages of declaration. So I've got to run out. So you've got to do you, you know, you've got to have to do with you?

No, we have two with me. One of the two that he has talked. It's a You can't do So, I'm trying, I've Pry, I've put it, it's not a year, Okay,

because it's just just, for, now it's possession in the bus Yeah, I was, yeah, I'm in the

total, okay. On the time, of the ecstasy, the speed, than the coque, but, you know,

just for question, that it was, it was not the gross quantity, so I, just put in possession

in the bus traffic, and view, because I've had never had ever to be a lot more,

yeah, I'd be, you're, we'd be, So, that's your first, province and a centaar, provincial. Yeah. So,

so you pass a year provincial? Yeah. You're doing you, federal, while you're in a provincial or? I don't know.

I was, I'm sorry to, you know, the prison of Quebec, there's like the end of the end of the end up to

whatever other to come to, in the final. I'll have so I don't know, I don't know, I think, that's a lot,

I'm doing to put the mard in the d'clock, and then, you just with they're just with fute a mard. Well, I've known, you know, like,

I've seen, I've gone to, I've passed to die of, because the guy, he had crissed the fire in the set, in the range of seven,

and in the case, he had lost on the moment, and it was, it was a rock and roll in St.Ville, in this time, that,

in this time, that, in this time, like, I said, like, I was, there,

I was done, when I was made in 2009, so, after all, all the information that had been on the,

there, the squadregenic were in New York, did you, had been, I have been a book of I have made a book of I'm a book of

83 in order. We're coming to talk about to say. 83, which is a group of music

at the last year they know, they're in the beginning of they know, it's the guy of the

Rive South of Quebec and the city, the number of telephone starts by 83 but

it's a little the same principle and I have talked with Christian Dianne

Darian who who is a 87 yeah Limoo 87

which is a it's kind shere a bit semi-gang of the road. You know, it's the same thing, it's the same thing,

it's the same it's a group of music, but all the world around the world there's a lot of they've had to have a gang

of rue and you all, you know, the 8-3 in so, it's a family, there's a lot, there's been there,

there's people, there's people, with, there's people who have any of with the, you know, so,

so much, the same Mauda company, who were the other do you're just just some friends but it's just just a family,

in fact, it's not a gang, it's not, because in this time there was a big problem in the

war, they said there's a gang of the gang of red in the way, there were in it's not the case,

he had been all the all of my people, all my people, they'd get all

they were all intercepted that, I'd mean, they'd even not able to find in a trotoir,

he'd like, it was like, it's like, it's an , it's an impventable, it's an

grose pressure, oh, it's a fured, it's, it was a people who have people who had

been talking about in the media that had a lot of profilage to be able to the fact that's a

question, I'm in a gang of the ruse, is it not necessarily your charge but like the

pressure on the pressure is more because there we're part because at you know, at the

end up we're not sure, we're in 2009, uh, it's affiliation

multi-gange we're called MAMG MAMG M'Regg. Okay. He said not what we're doing. After that,

this shot, that, when I was when I was in 2011, there's a sudden, wait, until, wait, so, go ahead,

I'm going to, I'm going to be in prison, back. In this time, it's a bit of gang, but we had

the pressure of the squadron and mix, but it's after that a year after, that's been worse.

Okay, so you fit, this chief, that, you've done, your sentence, you know, because,

I've been my beer, from my pill, form my pill, we're, we know, who's who who's

who's that's going to so you're with more with more more more.

So, you're still there, it's not at prison, a little a little

a little more, it's not to be able to do it to be to get to be

quite, I'm not put in the traffic, I've made in the traffic, I've made

in the bed, try a job to sell to the size, I'm

made my little things of my stuff to some job

legal for ban by stop by the yeah, yeah,

we're trying to we're on there's there's the tonde yeah, it's the tonde of

it's probably popular by the but it's not not the thing it's not the fared of the

puss or whatever we're trying really really we're we have the clients particularly it's a

gamick there that, it's a bit of some chame that's not at what point I don't know

I don't know to be not too about to travel Correct. But it's so.

So it's to be able to the police they say, oh, yeah, there's a job, and you know,

my affairs went to be in the day, and I'm occupied to be the vander, and I'm doing the

number two, it's a rube sub. So, so I'm I'm a bit, I'm a bit of time,

for the 2009 to 2010, yeah, yeah, after that's after that's after that,

after that's, after that's, 2010? 20, 20, 20, 10, you'd,

then you'd to have to be in one, yeah, yeah. 2011, that you said? 2011, there's been forced to get for a coat of poor.

Menace of Mort. There's no, there's not a menace. There's no, there's no way to face and the police and they had evasion of the guard

legal. They had to the escrow in the mix, and the police had to let's his arm and the

head to the arm and I'm pasted to the chair had been no way of the chair with your

chaki, he has made the hand on your On your time, you're part of your party. Yeah, yeah. Because it's an agression arming, I think,

it's, it would... It would have been... You'd have been, even, you know, if you're not, but it's not, with the voice of course, if you're doing it,

if you're gonna go ahead, you can't cause a tentative of death, yeah. And it's... It's been, oh, I've passed at least, two months in liberty illegal. Okay, so you're trying to...

The problem, and the... At the time, I'm talking, I'm gonna' am sorry, to live, but I'm at least, It was not, it was a police enemy It was a excuse, I said that I had a war of The Pairs'Intyre The Escoyal Mix, it's

everywhere, but just for the patruyer At least, I had a pay because it was not visible, you know, you're not, you know, it's not, they're not, you know, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're, they're going to, we'll put it in,

with the GARY, okay. Yeah, we, we're going to make the effort. Yeah, we, we made, I mean, I was remonsted, I had a rendezvous at the place, I was arriving there in the parking, And then we got to put in San Luis

with two caravan, the port open it was all over, it was all right, with the MP5, and that's all right, and it's like in a film. I'm just like, it's zero, the idea of glorify all, but is it financially-of-a-pen, at this moment, that?

Oh, it's the survival, you know, but before you see, you're saying, you're saying, hey, I've had to have been to almost number two, it's all right, you're doing, you're not, you're not

two hundred pounds per day, No, you do You do a gross cash? You do you do with that? You know, in the sense? You're not, you know, I'm going to. It's a round, it, the brens, the cochenry,

the biju, the dope, the alcohol, the out, the clubs. The young, like, as you said, I'm still young in that, like, I didn't even

even even even more 30 years. So, that's the affair, you say, I've passed ten of an end in a day,

I've been to profite to my life a so. So, so clack, but all that's all, it's all,

it's all the money to gain, it's the chance of you to have been to I said, you know, I'm not that's, you know, I want to tell them that the young

who have this mentality that's for sure to be there because, you know, it's been and you know, I know what, and I know,

I know what, I know, I don't know that you know, I think it's not, you know, that's probably you'd say,

hey, if I had placed, if I had invested there, if I had invested, you know,

but, you know, you'd have to get to the bit of coin. Yeah, that,

but, no, Finally, you've paid a avocas, then a other avocas, and a other other and a voppa,

and it's a bit of because when you're not put a lot of, and then it's not it's got to the money also. Yeah, because you...

That's... You want to do do you want to do that? You know, it's got to money, it's got to the boot. So, that,

you'd have to be able to squat. It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's...

It's... It's... The... ... ...it... ... ...at... the morseos and everything, and I said to say, when it's

a sort, so there's a lot of police, traffic, you're a beautiful panoply, a big lineup. I mean, a menace of death, you'd say, also. Manage of death, two voidsies, two vood of fiss, it's the police,

but I'm just ramed it's a two more. Boom. But who's, can't, but I'm saying, it's true, for example, because, you know, and the way,

the way, the way, the, the way, the way, the, the, you're the, I'll come to your first, who had to be a volk-qualified, because you're going to get,

the time that they're going to the time that's to start, you're going to do with, and you're putting five for one of a far, and the other side, you're in the road, the old,

voice of fil, two more one. You know, sometimes I'm saying, Chris, not, and my view, is not to say,

to Chris, punicely, plus, but there's there's a lot, I mean, a guy at 19 on,

his first crime, you'll callisse on federal during five years, after that you see that the guy is a criminal recidivist, even if it's not that,

and you give them to do one and you're doing like, Chris, I'd return to never to find the vote-calified but continue to do do you know, you know,

I'm doing the pinnette and you do a few more psalis and it is not the same that's not really that's a while qualified versus someone who's

that's been in the classment, let's talk, like on the federal when you're when you're in you just to have sentance to

provincial, you're going to go to federal you're coming to the pen, there's a there's a lot for traffic

they're going to they're going to they're doing to say it's a because I'm not because I know someone I know someone who's

you know a person who's the first chief traffic of heroin I think he's I've been in seven yeah that's a severe

because if it's it's very severe you say you're at a scratch with the

russ in sache because because even I think a traffic of urine you can

be accused to be yeah yeah yeah it's it's really it's

it's like we're we're not we're we're not We know a new planet. I know some of the old concess

and I'm talking to, I've seen, I've seen in a journal and he's been arrested and he risk, justement, since time's life, because he

had been with these famous pellul, that there's more, not the proof it's he's he was made,

and even, and more, and plus, and plus, and plus. I don't know, I'm not really googled or what what

what's what they're going to get a sentence life because there had this drug that had

to be in a young. I mean, a young, I'm going to, his father, all right, that's all of all right, so, so, so, there's things, yeah, there's

things, but, you know, it's just that, you know, I'm maybe, maybe, you know, to be there, a little bit,

you know, a five-year-a- and why, you're in the traffic, but I think it's not, dissuasive. No, but, it's true.

It's not been to be, it's, it's not it's, it's been doing, the voice, the police, I'm just, I'm coming me

me arighted, Two-moin' one. Oh, yes. We'll have to have my two-tier, my call-se my camp, you know, and... It's almost that, the worst. But it's the way to work, but it's a potty-go-nie. Okay.

Chris, I'm trying to stay, you're trying to... It's like the impression. There, we're going to, like, at the age in 2011? You're almost at 10? No, no, I'm 40. Now, I'm 403. Now, Chris, we're in a memory of 2011. It's 15 years.

It's 15, but you're 10. You're at all right. You're 50. Yeah, almost. Yeah, fine 20. Yeah, fine 20. Yeah, because, yeah, 2014, I think I've got to be.

Not the same. And, like, then, like, as I said, there had been the whole operations. There, the mentality has changed.

There was a, but there was not, but it's not, but it's not to have to be. Yeah, because, I was over the , because,

I said, before I was saying, before I had to tell to place, you know, the control, because,

there were there were people, and then the moment they're remobble to make them to get them to try to plant in a prison

to bring control when you're yeah I thought you I thought that I thought you didn't know okay we've

we've wanted you're going to put a little structure and you know I'm trying I saw the I saw the

new new the new generation so clear as that I think I'm part of it it's coming to shier

you know, you think, because the world have been more of respect, you know, the person who made a few my question,

but it's one of my job, never I'd never I'd think that, you know, they've been to think of us

other, before to think to find 201 2011, in the shift that's, you've got to, like,

you've got, to, it's not to make, because you didn't, because you'd putt the bordeaux,

you'd be at soux, you'd just the borgue, like, you're, like, you're,

a flag that's like, hey, I'm a bit tanning, like, no, no, I'm like, I'm saying, I'm at the old of my 30 years. And then, then, I said, well, it's a bit of ten years, like, it's a bit of what? We're in there. We're in a little bit of course. I'm trying to put in a seat for honesty

two-moin a march, in a prison provincial, in plus, because I had a blonde in this hour, because, if, if, if, I'm at least I'm at a federal. So, now, I'd be a rough to rest to provincial. Because you've been close. I'm back to, you.

You know, I've had a two-mo-one. but I've had six months of prevention to advance to, like, but I said, well, I'm in mind and put it, I said, yeah, yeah,

yeah, I'm going to be there's aft of school. So, I'm so insured at the school, but I credd,

I'd like, I'd probably, I'd finish my five. Finally? Yeah, well, I think,

I thought, you know, and you know, and you know, all the detenue, they're an old, you know, an ally,

that's a, it's a bit, a little, like the agent of liberation, federal, you, you're,

your own elude and I explain that, I've finished my 5, and the guy, he... Oh, debt, a rapport by a week, you know, stop at least, you know, I'd have to go ahead and get to go ahead and the professor in the bureau, and said, you said, I said, it's really, finished, I've really finished. And he's, they're totally in the same, so, you know,

so, you know, want to, come to say, you, have, you, do the plan to sort, and all? Well, I'd like, to be that, to have a DEP? But, but, you know, but, tabernac, that's Tilly, I, I've reached, because at the end game that I played, they were, you know,

they want to go out, you know, you know, in this time, the time, the cellar, we're not, they're not in,

they're able to get to what in the end of the , you know, with the parko of that, there's a lot of, more, with the gross

arrestation that I had had been put up, and, you know, even the, the commissaries, the commission of the commission

of the conditional, the card we have, we're on us and the on us and the, the on, it's not,

Yeah, it's a focée that's a good, it's a... They don't understand, you know, there's a... There's a lot of... There's a flaccardot, the guy's got into... The guy's got to have to have partage. So, I'm going to...

I'm sorry to... I'm sorry to my crisis of life, I've had a little bit of a single way. It's only one of my life I've only one. Yeah, that I think of this separation of tier, there's a... There's a... There's a...

...that I've been... ...you've been... ...and have... ...you've been... this parkour, because, you know, you seem to say, you know, your parents, the good person,

and you know, and when you devere, you know, and when you're, it's what, exactly, the, when you're, when you're 19,

you've got a , you've got a , you know, that's a pattern of the same, it's what, the relationship that's developed

between you, and your parents, view the chime that you've decided to to bring? I'm, I'm,

I'm, excuse me, if, if there's, if there's, if there's, if there's, if there's,

if there's correct, No, no, not too. The parents are still resilient, frankly, with all the process of to go to visit, of this, they've seen,

they've always been there and they've been to support. Yeah, my father, always when I was at all the time, especially when I was at the old, I was at the

same, so he came to all the time, all the time, he'd say, he'd say, a bit, clack, yeah,

not, not physical, but, you know, in the sense, call-liss, to be, the potential, The whole, you know, you know,

a minute, they're just , becky their own going to visit, and, yeah, it's your choice of life, what you want, I can't, they don't, they're not, they're a little... I don't know, with my parents, Chris, he said, of anything, whatever,

I'd have said, I'd have said just about that time. And, yeah, I'm at 40,000, and I'm listening to what? Now, we're listening, huh? Do you know what they're doing, do you? Do you come, they're not, when we're young, but...

Also, you see, now you see to persohn, in fact of the count, in some moment, I'm a uncle I'm a young who's dead, a young woman, I'm a new

man, we've been, we've been, we're all, so I'm glad that all over and that I can't do you

and I'm old, you know, I, yeah, the maturity that I'm getting, and accept

my emotions and I live, and I think I'm really, for real, for real, because, car, is,

I regret So I've been so many of times of my life that I've been, I'm not included, you know, I'm not, I'm hot, you know, I think that's, you know, I'm trying to spend to time to not want to, to be, to be, uh, really, really, you know, really, we, we're trying, well, you know,

I'm trying to, you know, it's a sentiment of appurtenance, or it's with the gang, that's the whole, uh, with the affiliation, you know, that, you know, it's a sentiment of appurtenance, to be respected by your parents, to be reconnue, it's so at this time, I'd I'd have to be in a different way, I think that's all the day the same business,

it's just to have the good way for the combless. Is that it's a structure in the road, is it a structure that you're going to to search a bit of

in the academy and I'm, I'm like that. You know, Bairie, you're in a time, I'm not, I'm not, they're

jocke, you're going to talk, that, they're playing, that, the third-dial, at the side of the side of the metro, when you were

to put in the client that sent out of suit. so it had that you were there punctual, you're going to and you're to hear of the

I'm sorry, I'm in fact, I'm having to get a new guy and he's arrived with an afro and he said to work

to try out of your head because you're too, you're too, you're too visit, you're too

and the guy has revenu the long of time, he's trying by, yeah, yeah,

because he was too potable you know, you're a coin payer, it's a job can't, it's a job,

yeah, Yeah, you know, because, you know, it's a job regular, and you're not too at your affairs, you're going to receive a letter, you're going to be in a lot, if you're not at your office, and it's not much, Chris, the tap's-a-a-l,

it's a lot. Oh, yeah, but he's... The guys, give an adeptlet, it's $100 in a month to have been to heart. So, you know, it's a structure... You part at the minute of the morning, and I thought that cool. You know, I'd have gone to know a room

of hotel on St.uber, in the time, that, so, you know, I'd rest of the time to the world, it's the way. It's the same, even when I'd travel not. It's so. It would have to be ready to be to be afraid to be

to be able to be able to put up to do you know in the metro it was just of the chos and the shoe it was something

in the stu like that hashtag it's other with the crackas I've jerry much that I've seen

of the misery human there there in there, there, there's just I'm trying to do that

how much, I'm just, I'm just, you tell you, you know, you talk to, We'll go. We'll revene

on your while. We'll rebecca, we're going on the other subject, and you know, you know,

you know, is that, is that the pot of the gain and or you're able to to make a carapace, for it's not,

if it's not me that's a carapace, you can't not be able to make your stuff, it's like in

it's the same to the same, it's a same, it's a culture also that, you know,

it's not, it's so that something, something that something, it's, it's, it's been

debordered manned. Yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah, and it's it's just to say, well,

the poor to suffer, but yeah, if it's not me that's not me that's there's

there's about, it's over there's, but I'm, oh, I'm, it's a record modest.

The first other thing, it's a other thing, it had more, the attitude, the chives,

too, they were there, we're all, they're sutured, we're all, and the chives, t'l, pote,

it's a pote, it's a pote, and the other piole. How you Gere, because if you it's a guy, you know,

the tapsed at a yoll, it's not a problem with you, to have a collet, it's not a problem with to be in a cracker,

and say, today that you know, that's been in that you're in quarantine, is that sometimes you're reponse

to say, you, have you, have you, have you tased that in a point or sometimes it's

not to make like, like, some, you're sure, you're full of regret, but in the

sense, is that, is that you do it, you say, like, hey, man, I can't, or it's too, I can't even believe, I'm just trying to, I can't even believe, I'm going to, you know, or this guy that, or this guy that, he's still there, but it's he that

he's not, you know, how much he lives? I mean, what you know, it's, it's sure, yeah, when I repans, it's, you know, it had to be of the misery human, when you're thinking of that, you know, it's a person that, you've lived in a cell, about to be to be remorse, and to be, to have, to be the other person that I've seen the it, that's in mind, who, who you're in a month,

in the case, even me, I've done with a place, who had to get a to get in a place, and he

didn't get to get, we're doing it, we'd say, it was going to, it was not too, I'd say, I'd get back, and I'd have

an client in a cracker, I'd be pere, to be able to be able to... Okay. Ah, there'd be a few,

that you'd be able to be to put in the client, you'd pay up, and he pay you know, I'm not, you know,

I'm not, you know, yeah, while in the time, while I'm in that, you're in the same,

yeah, so I'm in the same, in the case, I don't know that I'm that's so, you know, for the word

to glorify, it's sure that we're not, we're not, we're not, we're not, to be,

the time that, and the way, but we've that we've been, but that's that's the way, that's the one of the other,

it's who you can't finish with all, that. In the sense that you have some of the regrets on the things

that you've done, but you reneed not what you did, and at the moment present where you were doing it, you were in the thing.

It was like, not the good time, but it was like, hey, it's correct, and I'm complacent, and it's been

it's all right of all this but, you know, the cash, and it's sure that you're tripe, the restos, the feet,

whatever, so, so it's sure that for a young, it's attiring, but when you're repents when you're

You look at your parkour, and you look at the dossier that's in front of insurance, of chard. If it's assurable, that's other stuff, we're not saying, but you know, it's... It's not...

It's so that I try, I'm... It's so that I try to inculke. The young, you've got to you understand, that, yeah, it's, like you said, it was always to do you, find an agent fast, but it's an agent of gaspire, and the only place where you go to finish who check,

niporten who, we talked to, you know, Gregory Woolley who's made to try to get a parking who had to have a stadium that's over for a

that's true that's not that's not that you're that's what you go to get to or you

go to work you go to get grgue that's multi-millioner not a not a problem

of money but he he's not he's a life in the south in a palace

on a on a on on a morale before it you know you can't

you understand that's that's that I say there's this guy that this guy that's a king

and that's an example by the time of the other they're they're in their country

they're in their people who funn at what in the whole to be in the parking in front

their and have traumatized to madame and the the children we don't know

they're not they're not they're not doing until they're they're just at the end of their

job I think they're they're having their they're well yeah

well yeah Well, yeah, well, but, yeah, well, it's so, I'm the important to have your parents that's not, no, no,

so, so you're in the morgue, or you're in in a lot, a life, or so you're in a hospital.

There's no, there's a lot of that. View, what you were, the world in the world in it's been

to do you, you think, that's there that you're that would have finished, like, with a sentence

with a , like, that man, it would have been, in many, there's there's some

in the sense of the time in for the sentence of the and I'm that he that's a

I'm sorry I'm on my God man, it's a guy, it's a guy,

but it's that I'd continue to I'd remorse in the place. Because I'm

the mentality you'd have been to put to put in the guy, you think

at the it's not it's not it's some of some times that I'm not,

not, not I'm not, I'd be not, don't, you'd say,

I'd you'd But, you know. But in danger, I'd say not. But in that time, have to have a permission of the guys. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that. It's not as easy as today. It's not the same

price. I know. You know, I think that the price, if they don't have to cut it to have to be, I mean, I mean, I'd say, I mean, I'd say, I'm going, it's millions, of dollars. Oh, yeah, yeah, million dollars. Five, six, seven, million,

that's not done, like, a morsel, you know. And, you know, more, the month of my entourage in that, you know, I would have been impulsive. I'd have to be, wow, and I've been putting one, and I've been trying to, and he's been, you know, and I'm giving to the ball in the chamber. You know, I'm not, you know, he's more, you know. He's more, my last month, we'll have,

but, you know, it would have been, you know, that's the stoutap that, also, that I've got in a two minutes, and he'd be, he'd say, it's, you know, after that, it's, you know, no. You're, you're, not. You're quite conscious of your impulsivity for me, you know,

to me defend with my my men. You know, Bebeau, it's been able to it's my chum, like I said,

it's a family. The guys, don't know, it's not that's not that's not a matter for a lot,

but it may be the chalor of one way, it's a one way, when it's there,

there's a thing that's it's sure, it's a matter, there. Two million, if you're

out of year, yeah, there, there, there a brine of changement that's been,

there, I'm not I've never done a citizen, but I'm trying to There's a There's a There's a

I mean, I mean, there's a little There's a little There's a little Yeah, there's because I'm In plus, as I said I'm out of

My chair I'm going to I've never done to therapy You know, I've seen sometimes The therapy

like I'm like I'm there on the portage, there and it's a It's a Rangue It's a

It's a mass Is that Is that a consumer Is it a challenge? In that time, yeah. Okay.

So, it's a rendu the business, the gamic, so, for restate, you know, a bit at least, it's for... I'm out of course that's not sure that I'm out of the air when I discovered, I've seen as well,

it's a lot of, when I was saying, oh, well, it's long, we've got to compensate with that, you know, I was trying to get a little bit of,

and I just all right to get a pillulier for puke, and I said, tabarnack, it's, it's, it's been,

it's, it's a bit, and I'm saying, that, that's a barrennack, It's a... It's a... It's a...

It's just that it's... And then, one, it's been ... And then, you know, when we're... And then... And I'm...

I'm... ...that you're not... ...the problem. It's not... ...the percent of behavior, and 20% is the consumption. A coup of the consumption, it's correct, but you're not

garrie. It's so the comportment. It's like I've to come to... You know, just... A way simple, you know, to... ...dive someone in a bureau,

say, excuse me, you'd have to two minutes. I'd probably to be... hey, you know, you run in the be of a bit of the person and you're clear that, I didn't have no, I didn't have to be,

not because my parents were not educated, that's in any no, but you're... I'm the same. So, so, I'm...

Hey, excuse, you could be able to two seconds, check at what? It's so. So, all the little things that

have made... Oh, but it's because in the you can't say, hey, excuse me, excuse me,

is that you could just be, don't, you know, I'm not, you can't, you can't, you say,

you'll say, And in the same time, I'm doing, because I had to do P, because I had to do PEP, I went to do PEP, a vance, mechanical, and that's what I'm trying to do. I don't know. How many people? Okay, I'm not, I'm not.

Okay, I have, as a Viseer Technique, it's not a part of the technique. No, no, no, that's a job. I know too. I know too much. I know too much. That's a lot of course that I know. At least, I know, at least people, that's a little bit of course.

You do you do, you do this job, one, and after that, it's not until they're not, it's not the clientele. It's not the client who. But, after you're talking about it, in the front of, how many of time? You rest six months? You rest six months?

Is that the carseur, the console, is rough, or, potentially, deep, deep, or it's not? Well, there's the only, you know, I had all righted, so I was correct. It was certainly, I thought, also, part, I was the way that he done the therapy,

there's a chef of family, and we're all the, the children, a structure. A structure, and a car. all the time. All the time, my affair. But what's

what's what you're is that this structure that's a that you're a little when you're

in Ohio that you're but that because in prison, it's not as it's not as well as

it's not in structure and in prison you're never to look to be to be done to

work but it's because the structure that's the structure that is the

most impos in prison it's the wing that's the

structure of the structure of the thing and we're there's

there's there's, there's, there's, but in the of that, we're saying, if you see

the rules of the rest, it's a little a general, you know, the seclure where I'm, I'm not,

I'm not. Is it that you think, that the detenue have too of power in their wing?

Contraryment to... The power, between us yes, but, you know, there will never

the power to the guardier. No, but if, if a wing decides that a guy sort of the wing,

Oh, it's a sour, the guardians, they have almost not the choice to do it, it will depend also of the new security in which the establishment to be there.

Well, it's sure that's in a supermax, and there's four in a wing, and he's always, it's a word, it's a lot of,

it's a lot of course. And then, it's a newart, the committee interracial, it's a other thing, an autoctone, it's other thing.

So, so it's an other, even at Chambot in the time, when you had to have been to have been in the permission we're going to touch to someone

because you said the structure of the subculture is that's is that is it is too powerful that's not

it's normal that's not much I'm sure I'm sorry because I'm because I'm trying

I'm saying that's it's a because it's I'm filled to crosser that they're because

it's the first and they're with the screw it's that it's so that

the last sentence that I said that it's it's just it's just a I'm going to enjoy to that,

but if they're the first to get to Joseph, and long, and in a while it's a moment it's a great like,

I'm going to just to be right to be right with the social carceral, and, you know, the law of the law of

the law to say that, you're the first of, you're the time, when it's the time to sovere

you, you're in a honesty, you know, you're gonna be able to give a little to someone

to be to be able to be the first to be the first to be able to be part of the I've seen, it's that,

as I said, in 2011, he had made a bit, he had made in sort of, it's a cell. Fack,

Portage, six months, you're trying to have a certain structure, is that you reprint the medication

at the moment, or? Well, I've started to get to my medication also,

when I came, when I'm during, when you're, when, when, when,

when, when, so, so, you've decided to repartive the medication.

It's, that's, a point plus for me, because So, almost 10 years after, we're talking about, I thought, you know, at your first sentence,

it's at the beginning of 20, you're in a dozen than years, you're putting put your medications on, is, you see, you know, is that you see, you know, if you've not reprieed your medication, portage, would have been the bar, the DEP would have been able to be. All right, total,

that would have not been working. In all, that, that's sure. Because, you know, it's something that's something that, you know, that's something, you know, that's the public of our prisons are filled with people who have the problems

of consumption and of the health and the more than more than the question that you're in

talking about you're like there's like there, there's a there, you know a third of a guy who is

in a conso, there's a third of a guy that's not medicamentate and so problems of a

mental, but there a guy that's that's because your crime are not

related to your consumption because you not as deep in consumption to say

I'm if you fumate my rock, you know, but the health, but the same, there's a

there's a that's a time to get to have been to flancher. So, you know, I'd like, you're like,

you're like a melting pot perfect of, I'm going to be in prison, yeah, yeah, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, this life, this life, this life, you're, so, and in plus,

I'm, so, so, in plus, to be medicament, I'm not, but chrisement not,

but, to start, to start, to start, an game changer. Total, total. So, you do your do your own time?

After, because the portage, it's a manned as I said, also, to be to be able to be to be in school. You said,

you're in a way, it's like we had to say, excuse me, some, the conflict, the six,

that would have put to pass at the school, but at least, I'm, you know, paded,

there. You have to get in your pockets, in the way, in the way, you're doing,

you're, so, the mindset, the mindset, if, the mindset, if I do that, I'm going to do it. Oh, it's finished, like, you're

quite mentally, for to calm me. Yeah, yeah. To me bring a little bit of recule. A time-old, as they say. You finish, you finish portage, you're going to find your pay permobile? Vend to buy your piece

mobile. Okay. Yeah. I don't even not that you know that's, in the fact, you know, because Chris, you want to be you know, you know,

the base of mechanics there. No, no, no, but Chris, I mean, if somebody's I'm not a cardant. I'm going to say what a cardinal. It's not going to be. No, no, no, my chum.

We're not trying. We're not trying. We're not trying to work with you. So, no, it's so. But I'm going to find that fun. During that you're in liberation conditional, because, I mean, I've cuted the pond with all the world. I don't know. I've talked to person in the revolution. You have accepted a two-year because you had a blonde.

Yeah. When you're out at all-tier, you do partage, are you still there? No, because portage, we've We've been working We've seen as we're not a good relation, and not a good relation And then I decided to make fun to that,

at cause of that. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. I'll regret it, even again sometimes I think, to see if it's really a beau or it was too

the therapy that me had to be a little, I could say. But at the same, it would be able to make the end of sometimes you're playing,

but to be content to be a lot, she'd be able to be something, it's like, You know, sometimes we're going to have a kid. We'll have a blonde when you're trying to be in.

Because there's something that's a bit of. Oh, but it's true. No, but, you know, I'm at all the experience, the guys are all the time on the telephone, let's see, man.

Call, let's see, don't, live a little, Chris. The guys are jealous. What's you had to do the same, also, I was the last time, and I said,

the last time, I said, you're saying, I'd say, you're saying, you're saying, you're saying, you're saying, I'm doing,

I'm not, I'm saying, what's the, or what that's what that's situation because of the way

in the way of the so then I'm sorry I'm sorry but I'm saying

when I'm you know when I said when I was you know and you know to say what you're fun

in condition or in probation and then we're shirri oh that's my this is my little

yeah yeah yeah that's not yeah yeah so again so

so that so that's so that's so you're you said you've said you've said During my liberation, I said, it's so.

I had made a marriage. The sole person who is attached to arrive that's all that my conjoint. So I've got it, really, all the whole person that I've got to get, it's one of my friends in the time that we did

do that make sure. And I started to grapher. I didn't even if he graphe in this time that. He graved from 2007. But is you something? You have, this quote,

you're a guy who designed a little? You're too? Yeah, it's what I'm bizarre. No, I think they're young. In the culture rap, so you know, so you know, like the graffiti

like all the I'm able to I'm able to like a bit I've seen, I've got to have been able to have seen

every little bit there's a lot there's been beautiful, you know, it's so and sometimes when you

post by the tag you're not to think it to know, and it's a person that's a person

that has found out of that's still there's still there and I'm content that I'm still

that I'm that I'm after I'm that's I'm just Carliss. On the I thought,

I thought it would be going to finish in a old with a old B&A. Well, we're going to

see, so it's something that because it's a little fun, I'm not a guy who's not a guy who

does it for you know, you know, to try to the TV, and it's not the good way,

it's not a bad thing, so, so that's for a one time in my life, the first

to be in my life. You're not, you know, there's a there's just, there's, there's the job

to see, to be it's an AB, but it's... We're doing for to have some of the same. That's a bit, I think, okay?

And at the Monastert, he'd be very much as well, we'd have to be able to the sport, and I had to

see that, when I'm in a business, then I'm trying, I'm trying to whatever, and it's true that's true

that's true, I'm in the time, so, when I'm just when I'm you're a frustration X, you can get a

back up, and you can't that's true, it's gratifying, but you're, it's gratifying, yeah, But it's

that. It's sure that, as I said said, in the graffiti, I'm going to

search my little trances social. Because there are three reasons for the you can do

do you for the artisic, so for the fame to be reconnue by your

part of a vandalist. I'm I did for the three. There are in New York

they're in Montreal, they're just so there's got to there's got to graffiti, more underground,

a little more hardcore, you know, that's not like I'm like a new I'm a new, I'm a

thing, I'm not, it's not so, like I said, it's not that's not that's not cool,

I thought it was a beautiful. You've occupied the experience. You're to be

a part of the graffiti. It's the first thing you're doing when you do you're doing a

photograph, is the prear a photo. Mm-hmm. I'm afraid of to make a some years after,

I've made a course, I've made, So, so that's At the graph I've learned I've learned I'm trying to

it's a lot of really a fact also the affair to be out in plain air all the time. I mean that when I was

when I was in clow, I mean that in the clow so, so I'm trying to find out to find out it's fun

so, you So, you know, when you say, the world do you know, so, the vandalist, or for the

law, or to be it did it do you, it's done for the three. So, so you've done, to develop this

part artistic, that's been a business, when we have a part of the question, it's a question to be a question.

Yeah, to be in a way, that's a word that you respect, you know, that's the people,

respect, and you do it, and it's a , it's, it's a , I'm, it's illegal, but it's not,

you know, I think that you're going to find a vit of a magazine to get, to get,

to a viad of a wagon, you know, these affairs, so, so they're not they're not, they're

are still illegal, but, you know, that you were at their or a hand, you know,

it's not, it's not, but again that's true, let's just that, let's see, that's not,

I mean, that's not, there's not, there's, there's, there's, there's, it's not,

that's, that's, that's, that I'm, that's a place, in a church, the,

, that's, that's a, , it's a, so, it's not, uh, that's,

you're not, that you touch never, it's a, but you have to be respected. You're asking to be in the graph. The way of sort of design these mures.

You can't be able to do do with these mures. It's special, there's, there's a... There's a... There's a... There's a... There's a...

Yeah, yeah. It's... It's not the... The little tag that you do, but you can't be able to make a tag when you face that we're called a shoe-up.

I suppose... I'd rather about that. Okay. But after that, you can't not make a tag on a true-up. For passing a throw-up, you have to face a burner. The letter is a little bit more square,

it's a little bit more of time. And if you're not to make a flop, or not you have to face. Let's go. But it's the finish there. But a piece, when you're on level illegal,

well, it's the things that need to put to at least an hour. So, it's the affairs stressant, but in doing the vandal, you're playing with a vitt, you're playing with,

so when you're going to come on a terrain vague, or you know that you know a place, a bad city abandoned, because it's a bit of a culture. I adore so

the urbex, I'm a malage. I'm fascinated at the time. It's the other at the base we're trying to have the

place to have to be able to to create the job, really to have to have our because in the

street, you do up, it's not a word, it's not to do you, it's a lot of that's

it's just, you'll get that's it. So, so the graffiti it's a t'adad to retentry

a little, on every time I mean, at each time I say, the men, it's not loisier,

but, you know, when you do your hands, it's like, you're putting in, so you're trying, and I imagine you're preparing

sometimes on the paper, and so. The graph, that's not just the calette. It's a cuttot

it's also, these stencil, so. You've developed a lot of the artistic that's really, so the medication

is lor. Your DEP? You can finish? Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm... Malureusement, I have the dossier so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so I'm going to be

to be able to to place in a gross concession in Quebec, because I'm a little from a part of

an aryererire, I said, I had a carousery in that, and they they've been not like,

like, like, like, as they're like, when they're, they're saying, it's,

it's good, we're, we're getting, You've wanted to do you have to do you have your baggage because you... Because,

absolutely, concession, they're not to be able to the law to be in the public, you know, it's like a

remarker. They're working with the policy, so you can't work so you can't work for. Well,

I'd say, it's not the company. Yeah, because I know some of the company that in the case,

in my in my own in my own time, I'm having tried, but I said my notes,

I said my , collaboratrice when she had called, he came, he went to get out, he was out of prison. Okay, we're going to re-huh, okay, perfect. I just passed it as well as to the Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a

point in at the phone. Okay, we're going on. Yeah, there's a fun of course. So, so you've finished by encounter. So, now, you have a few menace, you're put with your young, and you're just concerned on. Yeah, I've got to hear of, I'm sorry,

to do you know, like I'm saying, I was trying to work with, when I was in the dog, and the connoisseance of my parents. In the graph, I think, the same thing. Is that the guy impulsive, aggressive, physically,

like, he is still there? He's always there. He's always over, that's an cuckling there. He's always there. But you do it? Yeah, we'll do a lot more.

Because I imagine that, sometimes, you know, it's a clienteat, you know, there's a, you know, there's an idea of, you have to get an envue you. I had seen the situation, and then I was, I'd have seen, my director,

and I attach to my silhouettes. Reflections of prison because when you see it's going to attach your sullier, you're reading, I was trying to

my director to get to be in my bureau and that he'd golley and then, there's a run in the rush, you know,

there's an end up there for the time to do do you know, to do you, it's not, where you're at your clack.

I'm, I'm, I'm there Eric, but hey, boy, whew, so you're that's a compresent.

But you're you're not a compresent. But you've to have to be able to it's a to do you, it's all the

question after it's going to what you're doing the case it's not it's not you yeah, if you're

the director, he's finished by giving to give us to bring back bang, we check the top of your

name, but he's he me not and it's three char that arrive, yeah, yeah,

so I'm there, so I'm not, there's not, like I'm saying, the progression, I'm talking to the

And then I started to to give the atollies the Masons of the Jones Young. Okay. Yeah, because I had someone of my family

in fact, who'd have been in fact, that you'd try to say, you'd probably to come to give the

activity, and you start to a little community commencing, you know, much of boucher, and frankly not quick,

not quite, it's a chame, you know, you're doing some of, you know, yeah,

and at the murgues, and in the time, with your part- with your time,

you're, my last, my, my, The last at least all the center with the

center of the people are in their own people are in the men people are in my name of the old I'm sorry to because of my

course of my doing it's a do you do something we'd be trying to do you do you're trying to name is that is for renem

dropy Diane Christian Dion who's working for the house Stefan Falu today over there's

there's a there's a there's a there's a day you're sometimes it's all the time what I say and it's what I'm

to get, the person that's been and the person that's true, but man, it's a tach a tach on

a tach on on the tallybill it's a tattoo that you in the in the universe public, in the system,

there's a tattoo that's there and he's there just at the end of your yeah and you know to try

to that I've started to and as I was chan't and I'm or that I'd rest in an apartment,

I had an atletyl in my soul with a system of ventilation and all. So I started to have some time. Even before I'd change to the apartment where I had my little twill-a-merey, I'd have made,

and then I was... Okay, so you'd have to... Yeah, but it was more really of the abstract, and, you know, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, to be there to do you, to do you'd have to do with a portfolio,

and all, and it's, and it was the declick really, that, that all that all right, I've started to expose not just at

Peirot at Quebec, which is kind of one of the first gallery before the Bouchon

even, which is in Quebec, I thought, because it's a adon in plus, I was going to

go to go to the gallery of that, they were going to go to go to go to

and the person that I said, no, we're going to see, we're going, there's

there's the people, the John Paul, the the minute, the most the the street.

But I was going to be like that. It was a Mr. Perrault who had checked my portfolio, and in the debut of my portfolio

you had my bio, I said that I was a grapher. He's a big, great, grand weather,

you do you do do you do do graffiti? It's a new marchion in 2016, that's been a little bit of

a pop-art. You know, in a day, you'll ever up there'll be there no, it's a matter, it's,

it's a time with a cabana and suck, and it's because it's it's a art that, you know,

our generation has known and has respected. The first generation, we understand, we're in

this time that we're respect, and we've the problem, I'm in some of this artist that,

who is a character that, when I've seen, that I've seen, there, I've got to of this

and it's a time, and it's a pleasure to that's a person who people who have to be, they're doing it,

because it's something that's something that's that's So it's sure that it's a layer That's a lot And the monsieur there

You're a mentor I know, I know I'm a guy who found These pieces of char Clote Smar It's who The most I'm sure, I'm

I'm sure She Perrault, there were There were Cane There's a grandpette In Calerie So, you know

Mr. Perrault You've You've got Your Conreement Totally, It's what It's what?

At the, Not the abstract By, the figurative All, do to pass the styles of art possible. He made

all of the world, I've seen a lot of people who I got to transfer the graffiti on the wall. Yeah, I put that on the wall because it's what you wanted, he wanted to be able to the abstract. I've got to, at the same time,

I've got to expose to San Morale, at Luxor. So, that's really in 2016, it's really the what, the case that was the declancheer,

and, you know, my view, that in the fact my attention is the graph, it's really to demarginalize the graffiti.

I'm not just the chum, for example. Oh, that no. Yeah, because you say, being respected by by his parents in the rue

on the graffiti, but is that, you know, it's the, the problem. You know, we can talk of a banksy

who's... We're... I mean, you know, multi-millionaire, you know, to have made his art of the rue

to the grand public, more than... I think, it, you, actually, it's,

actually, I have been that the hip- that's come in the world, and today, and today,

that's the music the most the most the most the most and the world, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's a something like the rock and roll, like, it's like,

like, everything, it's a bit of the world, and you know, to see, the title that you go down the road, you know, the mural at the coat, let's on the mural of Cohen, let'sone, an example of Montreal, you've seen, I've seen, it's gross. At base, the guy, they'll have come to the

road, they'd have been to be able to they're not going to be there. We're not a way, we have all of

all the same, we have all different, we're all right, we're all maybe more, we're probably, to be able to

be able to more than that more, there's really, there's really, there's really, the murals, it's encoddive,

it's, it's, it's a part of the game, I mean, it's a part of the music that, in the music underground,

and that, you know, If we're talking of a genie of poitrine in this moment, and he's cladette all, and it's very marginalised, and there are some of them are who, you know, that's like, hey, man, it's just, even us other, I think, they're even deported by what what's what,

you know, by, what, you know, you've got to, you, I mean, it's, it's, you know, is, you know, is, is, you, do, is, , is, you, do, it, to, you, to, do, do, do, my job, yeah, no, no, but, no, but, no, but,

I'd, I'd ask, I'd ask, it'd, you'd, it'd, you'd, , it's, really, I'd, I did I do you know, I'm going to do with my vacants, my two months that I've, my three months, at least, my three months at least, I had many, there were many, uh, I had many, contracts to do. Okay.

That's all right. Yeah, but I would have had ever be far as a time-line. I'd go to, God, my life has completely changed at 43 years. It's so. It's been. It's been a three-year-old. A job that I'd trypapot-time, and you'd see never where the life to mend.

I said that 37 on the fact to make some of the fact that you're going to be able to to be able to

to be able to you know, you know, so it's not just not that you'll just not that's not that's not,

if it's not to say, I'm not to say, you don't ever to say that. It's not the problem,

is that the grave if the murals are in Quebec, we're in a nested of the winter also,

I think I've asked to do you, I've paid for what I'm for what I'm for a problem to be lotte.

by counter the 12 the last year have been there's a in the end of in the end yeah,

so it's not not all to start at zero. I'll start not I'm not so,

I'm not so, and I had a really had really been the good projects

I'm in the house of the young but I'm a business a bnoucrative

that the bus the mission was to make the world to I'm

there had to be the the supervision of the of the city of the Quebec at a

$20,000 for a guy that's just a DEPE that's a car car a st.

Ackon a rome a rome but but it's hot, like that and so

and it's OBN that I'm not, I'm not the choice but he's not he has been

to continue to be still, it's still continue, it's still my sister continue to

have far far of the artis, and it's to continue the mission of the OBNN, it's what? But, no, I mean, I think, as you guys, they're saying, it's these acquis. I mean, I've done, I've done.

You know, I've tried, I've been, you know, for the plan of gestion of graffiti also, in collaboration. I'm a little like a concierge. Because at Quebec, we're chanced, we have, the mur of the ego for pain, in the way, they're not having to, so, so, I've tried with the city Mooloo

for so, so, you know, I've done plenty of things. Frankly, personally, They're in your background. You know, so you know, that's the things that that you've made, you can't do they're doing,

they're accessible encore. Yeah, yeah. It's just that, in this moment, you've got to reconstructrise again, so,

like, you're in mode, is, is that, is the art, is still, yeah, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm gonna, I'm sorry, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, buy, I'm gonna get the, I'm used, in my own

at my own interview, I'm, I'm used, like, I was in, a magazine, you know, I'd do you do ramonsed the rest of canettes

that I'd rest of I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd probably 25% percent of 10% to 200 pies at every time. But, that's when you... But it's a... Yeah, because it's like my yoga, it's that I do, to young.

When I'm in, I'm going to look at a year, I don't. I don't think of all the way. I don't think of what I'm doing. what I'm going to do with the moment present, at the moment present, and I'm on the same. I've always done with, some decisions of the children

also, also, there's certainly, I had a vehicle, so I could be promen to travel of the province, I haven't been, there's a point in my corner, also, so,

that's a bit also in the same time, the podcast, it was, yeah, to tell me, to tell me to give a quote to positive to the world

who can't know in this story because, like I said, with the graffiti, I've never discovered of things, and I've

after to make to do the photo, of the video, I've had a channel YouTube. You know, I'm filming with a computer

on the head and I'm filming me with when I'm doing it. You're not still accessible? Yeah,

I'm still my age, I've been my way, you know, on, on YouTube? You know,

won't put your stuff, you 'll be able to the line, we're going to get in the YouTube

if the people, if the people, there's maybe, you know, there's perhaps, I'm, I'm,

I'm going to say, I'm, it's a It can help you to rebutt, you know, but, you know, I think in this moment,

look, the counsel, and, I'm the time I'm in a little bit of a few people, but, you know, to say, to say,

I think, you know, in this moment, you're like, we're like, we're like, it's like, to be like,

to be in a place, in the sense, that's, yeah, you know, you know, you know,

you have, there's, there's things that's been, there's, you know, I, you know,

I think, you, you're, you, You know, it's just a year that we're together, and the guy,

the 10 years, the guy, he's, portage, DEP, work, LAT,

O. BN, he's there, this guy there, you're, you're, you're

chrissed you're on, the life, in a fact, the life, you've done a

way, to put to get, like that, yeah, but you're able, but you're able,

you're just just plus of view IQ, you're just plus of maturity, you're just more conscious

of, okay, I can be still still I'm in even after 10 year, so I'm in, I think,

across you, to be in the good way. It's a point. It's not an idea

that I'm to say, and the last thing I, I've revened because you

say, in the moment, you're not to get to the reason for the

that's not the not medicamante in some it's still at the the

tentation of suicide because they've been pass a encephatolagram. In cephalogram? Yeah.

And we're trying to find of the problems cardiac. So, so I'm still in attante with my medicine, see...

The pillules can't be dangerous for a total. Yeah. But I'm at my stage that I said, I'm in fact.

Even if it's my health, I'm not, I'm a sense mental, that's the plurise. It's plait, it's all,

it's all, it's the physical, but I don't, I'm not, I'm not doing so, it's it's certainly the stimulants,

so, So, so it's all right of the Vicksedrine. It's going to have to have an evaluation. We'll have to be. We'll have been fixed. I've never passed to test when I was in the States of course, the tapir-ruling with the respirator,

the si, and it's so. We'll see, but it's sure in my car, it would have a choice. It's a lot of, you know, yes, it's a becky, it's not just that it. There's a mo'amined, there's

my name, there's my job also that's going to join in line-de-counter for just a medication. with this circle, I mean, I'm saying, it's not, it's not, it's not, the taff. No. The gestures

are, but, I mean, to say, there are some, but I mean to say, an obligation of medicamentate, to be medicamentate for well, live in society, if you're in a

I understand, the time, it's not that, it's not that not that's not, because it's sure, that's sure, that's true,

that's true, it's true, it's on the heart, honesty, yeah, yeah, yeah, some,

the monoster, also, the boasts, also, You see, no, it's a couple of me that's a few. We've got a

christ, yes. Some of us, we think we're in our own in our body, but our car when we're in the morning

we're up and we're not sure, the car that's the future. But, because, you know, you're in some without medication

but I'm just it's a lot of work for you on the everyday, if you're not for the time that you're

all the time, that you're afraid, and that's fragile, I'm sure, totally, you're trying to it's brilliant,

it's, you're to do do find the job of the medication by your by your own by your mind, and you know, that's not

and that's going to be... you know, it's a... You see, you know, there's a lot of... You know, it's a lot of... You know, to be able to... You're not to be a situation at a risk, not...

You know, I'm watching. You know, I'm watching. There, you know, it's a problem is regled, but, you know, You know, it's a sort of, we're a fragile, and then with a situation, what's the same, what's what I'm going to to be able to do.

But, you know, I'd rest can't even all right now. You're able. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, but, yeah, but sometimes, it would just be to be able to say,

I'd like, I'm sorry. But, yeah, it's easy. But, yeah, it's easy. But, you know, but you're in, in a bit of, then, and then you're in front of 10 years, totally,

um, even plus, yeah, More, more than that. So, you know, it's like to take fuck off. And while the parkour, you know, you've been to prove, and I think you're proved to be able to prove to the society that you were able to prove to the society that you were capable. So, you know, there's a drape.

And it's a lot because it's often something that I demand to people with the problems of consumption. You know, I'm like, I'm sure. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, to be my mother, man, man, may, is, is that you're able to surmounted that? And, hey, I hope, I hope, it's part, well, it's, you know, you've been off, you know, and you've been, you know,

but, you know, that's a bit of a fragile, so, so, I think you've been just more vigilant than you've never been, you've ever been. And then, you've ever been a drop. Yeah. Well, it's sure, I'm going to run. You've got to be, you know, I think, to give you the time to time, I think, to give you, simply. And I think that the future will be possible.

I've got, I've got to have been to experience, and, and I'd rather than, you know, It's not because he'd come to have an event that's a that's a thing, I'm going to

I'm going to you know, you're doing you're doing to get to the positive of this situation negative,

I think it's the the way of the way of the consumption, as I said, I've said, I've said,

I've heard of my own in the there's a guy that's all the time, the sentence, sentance,

sentence, sentence, and it's an overdose. And again, the joy of the facility of the drugs

in the start with the round, but, that's that's something it's serious the prison

it's changed it's not it's been my place there's not I'm gonna fuck fuck yeah so you

guard you keep you keep you I think you I think you think you're to give to the system

you know it's you're you know it's you're and you and they're there's gonna have been

in crisis and people they're not they're they're in it's to pese their brakes quite

to be able to control it yeah apparently you cut in God of Chon. Yeah, it's apparent a little. Carl, thank you. Sincerement, my chum, you're not

appreciate, man, it's a, it's a partour, and, you know, I like that, to see, to see, to have some of,

and so, and what I'm to do you, and what I'm, to do you, it's justly, it's been that for

10 years, and, you know, I'm not, you know, to be, you can, you, for not

to be, to be able to , that, and it's a few years, you've got to be able to, you're not for who that's a few, you're fragile. That's like someone who's an alcoholic

who's like, a badger, yeah, the first time you're able to be able to buy a minute. You know, so, you know, so, you're always, you rest vigilant, sure, even if it's been 10 years ago, it's not, you know, to let's have to abrid too,

you know, to be able to be to live, get, of, live, these things like that. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, to be able to,

I don't know if your mother will look at her. I'll invite a little a little salute because she'll have not returned and he's she's been in

very appreciated and I imagine they're still there for you They're still not there if they're not they're not

I think I think I think it's probably the people who know the person who they're still so if they're

who you support it's because I think they're able to I think you can like you I think you can't like you

thank you you can like. Thank you. Thank you. I hope that you have appreciated the episode at the moment.

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