Au Parloir - Episode #157 - Catherine Delarose

Episode Date: September 6, 2026

⚠️ Abonne-toi sur PATREON: WWW.PATREON.COM/AUPARLOIRDans cet épisode, je reçois Catherine Delarose. Laissée à elle-même dès son plus jeune âge et victime d'intimidation à l'école, elle cherche à se faire respecter et à combler un vide en intégrant le milieu des gangs de rue à seulement 12 ans. Recrutement de jeunes filles, violence et collecte de dettes au sang marquent son adolescence jusqu'à ce qu'elle tombe enceinte à 16 ans et décide de faire un virage à 180 degrés pour sa fille. Alors qu'elle reconstruit sa vie, retourne aux études et surmonte de graves épreuves de santé, la vie lui fait croiser la route d'un homme au passé criminel lourd. Après une relation de sept ans marquée par l'isolement, elle trouve la force de le quitter, mais vit peu après le pire : une agression sexuelle commise par son ex. Elle décide de porter plainte au poste de police, mais se heurte rapidement aux ratés et à l'absurdité du système judiciaire.Malgré les traumatismes accumulés et la déception face au système, Catherine a choisi d'avancer la tête haute. Son parcours est un témoignage brut, sans filtre et bouleversant de résilience, de vérité et de reconstruction.☠️ Suivez-nous pour ne rien manquer :Tik tok : https://www.tiktok.com/@cedricbergeronparloirInstagram : https://www.instagram.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humourFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour⚠️ Pour collaboration : [e-mail] Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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guy of gang of the group who have been cool, to let's let's let's

let's With the violence that she had in her, it was also, if you pay not your Pimp, it's to pay her to have to do with her. She'd have to have a year. He'd be in-sinceed at 16-year, decided to change the life, but she'd be in love

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Hello, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you to bring the time to come to us,

to share us our view, your course, who is in bush, of which you're

in trying to to start because, even that when we want to get, the way sometimes we

get the little obstacles that you've been to learn to this podcast that. So I

thank you to take the time to come to come to come to hear and I'm

the key to give to the key to give the best to inspire to to avoid,

perhaps that certain people that's the same pattern in the way to be in the way to be.

That's what I want. Well, it's, I think, one of the reason for you're in,

just the first of, I'm doing, I'm doing, with you know, with all of many people, you know,

from the kind of family, we're talking, I'm going to Laval. I've grown at the Val. I've got a

family, well, simply, I have two friends, I'm very present, a pair,

very poor, present, also. I'm, I'm just six years, I'm in a last year, I'm

going to I'm going to I'm sorry, I'm sure I'm sorry that my mom had never there, I'm

doing a lot of my mother, I'm doing she'd be there, I'm not there, I'm in the when she was at the telephone.

When I wanted to be a little words on a paper I'm going to the door, and I'm

in front of her and I'm playing because I'm until you're talking to that's the person, because it's a man

who's a man who's She was a job, but she had She was married, she was a woman also, so she was, she was. Okay. She was never there. When she was there, she was not there, you So the relation to your father and your mother?

They were separated. I had one year. Okay. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying, she's not that she said, but I've not really my father about 10, 11, or 10, 10, or 12. Okay.

You've been a month on two? Okay. Mom, she had 30 years. 30 years, okay. With what you said, I had an impression, just someone who wanted maybe more

life, is your your friend, are the friends who? Yeah, I have two friends than one that's 40, I think, that's 47, I think. He's not 47.

Okay, so she'll have had been a young, I imagine, all the same pair, or, no, okay. My,

more, my, more, the other pair, but my, the second, and me, and me, it's the same,

and me, And it's finished when you were the little baby, and then you had parted, and his parents, it was not so important than that? Yeah. We'll say it like that. Just as to say, my mother that I just as I said to my mother,

that I went to have won't even for two for a couple of years, but it's not bad my be my beck, so I'd have to be it. Is it, you know, the return, he accepted? Is that you, you've seen, because, you know,

is he partied without saying I'm going to see, I'm going to see the conversation that's been in

any of the We've got to talk about to talk about to all, but... You'd just what you

could have to your father when you could be... I'd go to and I

had a little, but... Just at the age of 12 years, but,

you know, at part of the age of six years, it's there that the intimidation

had already at the at the school. At the until 12 but, you know, he made

a few of the foot of the coup of point, I made a trough of and I'd have to be trying to try to my mother, because I was I was afraid of

after I'm sorry that just in secondair one, two, I'm 12 years. I imagine that the poor the interaction that you seem to

have to have to profite to, like, with your part. At a moment, I said, yeah, my mom,

I'm intimidated, and that I'm I was going to second age of 12 years. She said, she said, she'll have to stop her head. She said, well, she'll say you're going to be in the face. So, yeah, you'll say that two times. I'll do it, it's sure.

So, the end of the mind, it's to have to come and then it, and it's just so. She'll have to be, and it was that it's just that I was going to get sued. I said, well, we've got problems by the violence, why not? It's a matter of a moment of the, I met with a guy,

and he made a party of the gang of the rue. they've been, like, entraned there in the age of 16 years, in the sense that I'm going to get

to recruit her I'm 12 I'm in, you get to 12 you're talking at the school that you're at the

school that I'm at my cousin, at her own to come to be in past a few years, and

I've met a guy that I'm a lot more than more than I had to more than

at how point, you know, I try to to make, you know, at 12 years,

you're, I imagine, maybe a bit more if you're in a bit to get, you know,

you know, you realize that if I create on a dread, you know, you're just, you're doing,

so, so, is, is, that's, you, I'm just, to,

you're not, to get, to longer, the mour, and I, and I, and you, and,

you're realizing that you've that had so , little taps a year, it was very violent. It was at all right. It was at the same, and if you'd pay it not,

I'd call to the same way. I was going to do you, I'm doing, I'm trying to do feel like I'm trying to do. But, you know, because you're often, we're the pattern of, just, man, a girl of that's approach to gang

of rue, we know the thinking that, they're going to try to be imping or something like that, you know, and they don't have to have to, or they've been You didn't know that's not the

but it's not the way to to make enter. It's really, it's really, you're going to we're going to

pay you. I've got to get to get the money. But at 12 years, you know, I'm trying,

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, so we're at the end of the

90, 12, you know, I'm in the home home, and I see my two little kids of two kids,

they know, they're maybe, they're, they're just, they're just, they're just they're

not conscious, when he's asked when he's when he's going to find us because we're going to work for us

I'm concerned. I'm concerned I'm seeing more than you see the money, it's more, the money and I'm paying

respect, so that's like, it's like, I'm doing to do you're doing what I'm doing. At what two years,

you're going to have done of the money? I think that's, to have to have all

what I've wanted, you know, combed an An espouse of vied. Exactly. Exactly. Just until at 16 years.

I've done to until 6 years. But you recruit... At 12 years, you're doing a little like a girl of a few years? No. Because, you know, in my head, 12 years, you know, I'm going to look of a few years of 12 years.

But you recruit, to call age to call, you, recruit at the school, you recruit in Sanne of Chathot, you recruit to come. I'm not that you know what you do the motifs operandi, but, you know,

I mean, it's the, You're the approach to what? You're going to be They're going to You know, I'm going to You're trying to Do you want to find out

To do you? I don't know They're doing to do. Yeah, it's not That's cool, you know? No, it's more I'm doing with others.

Like, you know, those are hypocrites and I was hypocrites and I was like, to be like, to live than me than me

finally, and they were the other, he'd be able to and they'd be and, and, it's my,

my approach a little, And you were paid by a fee that you'd remnant and that they were to arrive at... Exactly. The woman that I'm in front of me today, who is the mother of a 22-year-old who is there that I've

metered, when you recule to that, when you think to, to you, to 12, to 12, to 16, that's what the thinking that has? You can't, I can't believe, or you've made, like, I've made, what you want to do you do?

Today, I realize the matter that I've done, I'd like to see, I'd like to go to the person and say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd just me ask you. You'd make a minute, you'd, because it's a page of me, it's a lot on my, it's all over the pastoral all these years, you know, that I never talked about, I've never, you know, I've got it for me, to do this time, and,

and, you know, I'm part, liberate to that, and I'd say, if my fee, who is, if my fee, she's, I'd have made capote, you know, I'd have said, like, well, y'ayond. I've always had been afraid that my fill, that my female she's

to come in to work to do you? A fire of recruitment or to be a little bit of a little

to get a because I'm to get to her character to say like like she's she'll be able to I'm afraid of

she'll be to get me and she's the problem to come up to the yeah I'm

I'm just the I'm and you know you say it's pay because he's pay by the pay by the

that you're there's you're doing something if you do do you do with the money, you pay me, I'm to get in the sense?

In the sense that if, let's, let's the feet who don't they pay their pimps, he doesn't, they'll remit not the money, and I'm going to get

to get the money, I'm going to get, I'm obliged, I'm obliged, I'm obliged, I'm obliged, I'm just, that's like my job a little, you,

for that I said, you know, it's a violent, and I regrett the man that I've done, I'm trying to, see, I'm really to see, I'm really

I'm sorry but it's too long and I'm too long time, and I'm doing it today. I'm just

like, today, today I'm today, I realize what I'm doing, at the moment I

realized it not. You'd do you, the fact of to be related to gang and to

do, with the recul today, you see like a victim of the

gang or a member, a party, you know, to make part of to make by the point-me

to be manipulated, you know, how you... I'd say a little the two. I'm just really like a

part of their gang, but I'm like a little manipulated for to make to do that, so it's like a little

a little I'd say, the modus operandi of the gang of the ruse to go back, it's just

to go and you're gonna you know, when you glace in the piece, and you do it, you know, because you're

to do you have to live more in the life than you your and you're not not even so you're so you

go to you're a certain problem. It's what they do with all the young even that they're

they're they're going to the mayaner who who they're not an encodermannes but a

family, a a second family. Exactly. And, you know, see, It's, it's transmitted how to, you know, you know, I don't know,

to have been, you know, you're not going to be to be able to be the same, but I'm going to be a lot of the school. I was not, I'm going to,

I've got, I've got, you have to be, with the vatement that's not, you know, there's a idea, you know,

it's never run to have, she never, run to have any, she never ran to her head in, she never ran to, when I,

after, I'm, I'm not, I'm not used, I'm not with, this time, that's all, Yeah. What mode

that we have to be to find the gross so, the shoal you know, to get

to be to get two to be a lot of that's never to get to get to not the

question. You'd have to pimpe and there probably there's probably

there's there exactly exactly to do to 12 to that's

that violence and you you know you've you've been you've done you've been

you not made, that when you're in this entourage that, also, it's extremely violent, so so, yeah. I'd say, I'd say, after, I'd

met after my wife, we, we'd frequent a couple of months, and, at this moment, I'm, I'm still, I'm still, a little more present,

but I'm a little, more, I'm getting too violent, and more, and more well, there's more, well, yeah, I'd,

some months. I have my anniversary of 16-year. I think something like in January,

I'm in my son of my wife. I've seen. I've seen. When I, I said,

I'm still, I'm still, so, then, it's trying to do, and I'm about the

I'm not in-court with that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying,

to after five But, I, it was not preview, planified, and volu, at that? No, not at that moment. So, so, well, I just, what's got to do? My mom, I said, I'm going to say, I'm not, I don't know.

I'm not saying, I'm not too, I'm talking about it's like, how, yeah, well, how that? You'd explain to how he'd say, that, I'd just, I'd say, how to tell you, like, so, you know, but she, okay, what you do, what you want,

what you do, what you want, I said, I'm trying to to have a moment, I said, what you're doing and I'm doing, I'm going to

get to be and then we're doing, we're doing all the we're talking, you're not not trying to

I'm not this response that, you know, so I'm so I'm to listen, I'm going, I'm going to,

I think, I can't continue to do what I'm in this time, so, is you

someone who is who, he's no, no, no, no,

okay. He's, you, there, you, So they've been said, okay, but, you know,

I see some of the things, I've seen some of the thing, I've been to be able to

see, okay, it's beautiful. But, okay, it's so, okay, it's beautiful,

like, we're in your, okay, it's beautiful, we, we'll let's live your

life with your life, you know, long time, long time, I think, for four

years, I've been to be afraid to be to be to be in the information that I

had, so, so I'm in a fear. The information as rough

for, like, give 25 years to give you yeah, yeah. So,

I've been four, five years, my friend my family, and I had again, you know,

I had a , I'm a question. It's, you know, to do you, to do it, you know,

even at six you know, you're going to see, it's true when you say, it's, you know,

you're I've started to be this life that's, that's often of the world who are going to start this kind of

life that's 15, 16 years, is it? Is that the consumption does part of your life

or not to do you? Not to you're in. I've never ever pre-drague even even even on the

day. It's perhaps that that's probably that's probably in console and it's not an option

to go to go to go and in consumption it's of things are more easy to get Because, you know, we're gelled,

but you're... More you've been more you're conscious of what you do you're in trying to do you're in trying to do with, you know? No, but it's

that's able to to be able to do that. I think of that's just a lot that I've done, and I'm like, it's not a life, you know,

you're having a... You've got to something, you have to do something, you know, there's a... You're a... You're a...

You're a... It's not the kind of that you want to... ...that you want to... ...that you want to... ...that you've... your child don't know

not that's not that's not quite, so it's it's a lot that's not quite so I'm that's really,

you know, the contrary would have been in the sense I'm a question, I'm a bit of cash, I'm used to

have a bit of cash, especially when you're saying, there's a need to have to have to find

to pay a in the end of the end of it's not it's not it's, but,

but, but, you, because, you know, you're defined at 12 years by the violence. It's what you've made to change

to become a person of someone who is in the eyes and the maton-off the way, to long as the school, you know, so it's hard

to be to get to be in the parenthage, is that? Is it still that's anchored in you? Yes,

but, you know, it's a cached, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, I'm gonna ask to cross my point in-face, it's really

like, You have to come in my piquese to do, that's the same thing, if I'm going to say, Aright, stop, because, let's see, that it's like it's, I'm going to be, you know, I'm going to be more rough, you know, if you say, yeah, it's going to,

like, it, yeah, it's a-go-law, but, you're going, you, you're going, to go, stop, you, stop, you're going, you're not, you're not, you're not, it's not, it's like the point, the repert, is, the par, is, aright. The operas, you?

Your age? Two years? Two years. Two years? I'm not. And when you announce that I'm a baby, I'm

not quite. He's really not content, he's not not quite. He's not he's young. At that,

he's 18 years, I'm like, well, yeah. I know, I know, I know, I know,

I respect, the decision, you know, until the time that I'm , and he comes to have and he says,

well, I'm just, she, be, like, yeah, a little bit, a result, ,

not occupied, he wanted to he wanted to get to to get to to the age to be 18th of

about a year of course when I'm when I'm after she went to see my dad and then

I'm a pattern that's a pattern that's you've had an you've had a father

of your person as present that your own my father had been

for my time to until I was when I was when I was returned at the school at the

moment there. He'd be to search my second at 5 in 7 month, I think. Well, it's that I had, before we, it's just a, so, the fact, the lady of 16th who's, she said, like,

hey, the guy of gang, I have a man, and I want to be my own family, and then you'll get to get riddle when they they're going to pay you. Okay, chill. I'll have to do something.

And you know, because, you know, you know, you've, you know, you're going to do you, you're going to do you, you, you're going to do you, you, to buy,

at this moment, Now, I live at this moment, so at this moment, I have been able to get into the rest of familial. Just when I was going to go to the school. And then I said, well, you've done to do with you. I've been to go to the school. But I've been searching on seven months. I'm occupied with her.

I'd go to the school. And then I went to my Segeop. I've made, from 2015-19, to DeVille. In what? In education at the infance. Okay. And after that, I've worked a little there. When I was going to go to Segeb, I had to go to Segeop, I'd go to the job.

I'd go to my job. So, it would have to have the rent-in-apportable at this moment. I'd have to ask you the question of the mare that you had who had who had not present when you announced that she'd on the same, that said, I'll be there and I'll be able to tell you, that's what you'd be there? No. No, not, no, no, no, I'm a lot of help.

Just to today, even, to make it on cause. So the mom, no present, you're becoming. a grand mom present. Present. Yeah. Is you a talk that you've had

with her? You know, more than to that, I'm doing what, you know, why is what what's what

what's going to, because if you did that, I don't know if she'll listen, and I'm in this moment,

you're in a past, you're in difficult because you're in, in the, we're going to

get to, but you see your mother in this moment, we're the why, because there

has been there's what's, that's, But, you know, my view is not a matter of spot, justly, if it's still there, and he's still there, and he's never, excuse me, my podcast, is, just a point that there's never too far, to change in the life, for so,

so, the fact that she's not been present for you, but present for her, is it the conversations that you've had with her? What's what you've been? Why, so the declique? Well, I've only wanted, my mom, to be, and at a moment of the day, I said, well, there, I've got to you on part. It's important that she knows why she wants,

because we have not a relation. We're not super-proach when I was in person. I was there. She was there, but it was more sure for my wife than for me. And there's an event that has arrived it's been five years. It's that that we've really rapproached. And then it's a lot more close to until after that I've

I've got to my next, but we're going to rest. Chronological, you know. So, she's present for your daughter, You know, you're going to return those studies, Bravo for that, and I'll invite a bravo to her

also because, you know, she's, well, she'll have perhaps a little a little bit to make her with you, but she,

she, she, there's a certain jealousy that is developed, you know, in the sense that Chris, I'd like that,

I'd like to have a bit of that when I was young, you know? No. You don't have not

to have been to that's, no, I'm not I'm not I've been I've been, I've done,

I'm ve, but, it's not, It's not jalousy. It's more like, you know, I'm obliged to go to get to go to

go to get to my own in my proper mother when I had wanted, like when I had been able to, it's more that I'm talking,

you know, just that's a day she's not all the past on the podcast. She's also, she'll be there,

there, there will be, there, there, there will be there be a conversation with your marriage,

like, what? But, but I'm, but I, I don't not , because

that's actually, I didn't quite, I'm not quite, I'm not to say,

I'm not, that's that in my life, that, and I'm trying to change,

I'm decided by my own, I'm, to change to be in another person, to stop

to get to do that, you know, I'm, you know, I think that to have this thinking

that, you, at a six young age, you, and what I think, that's, you,

sometimes, we're, Like having an 16-year-old, you know, and I'm not that's not the people who's

not quite, and there's that's not quite that's not that's a little bit of, because if you don't be not

in a scene of where you you'd be able to, you know, I'm sorry, you know, I'm saying, you know,

you've seen you've seen and you just been stressed, but you, but you're to be

to be able to have been a complice of something, because you you're doing a chour, because,

you know, the life can you can't when we're there's a lot, you know, and we're thinking more than the

bit more than you, exactly. Exactly. At this age, at this age, you, you're not, you're not,

I was, I was, I was doing that, but I was like, if it's like that I'm just if I'm afraid, well,

why not, you know, more I'm more, and I'm know, that's probably to have done to have to be

to have to be in fact, I'm, there's a lot difference between the power and there's, someone that's

that's not someone who's respect, you know? No. No. No. But when you're

violent, you know, there's a there's a like, you're hot, you're cool, oh,

Chris, mercy, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

that's, it's worth, that for an adolescent that, there's not there's not love,

you, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's, basically, that's,

they're, they're probably, that's the same, so, so, you're, you're doing

a grand boot, who, second-secondary, you say, you know, you're saying, so if I'm asking, and then again, it's not for to make a tonne of spot, but is, is it a man not present,

because you go to the school, you have two jobs for you're doing? Is it a pattern that that's a pattern that's a bit not for the same? No, but at that, she's... At that, she's, at that, capable of to be able to be able to be

all, so I'm still, you know, just as long as... Oh, yeah, because when she went to the school, and all right, and all right, and then you're present also, so when it has been able to be able to be able to be able to be

not, but in the case, I'm going to say, they're going to be able to put the fire in the cuisine in doing something to do something to do. We'll say it's a good... We'll say it's all the same. Because what you said, what you said what you said, she said, she'd say, she'd say, she'd,

not she'd have, not, she'd have, she'd on She'd have been a little bit of recantation. She's... She's not a bad recantation. You know, like, I'd repeat her a little bit my pattern of a more frequentation,

and that, you know, I said, I don't know what you've got to find, but they, but, you know, they're not time,

or, you know, she, she, she'll continue to come and then to go, and then she's at the hospital with her,

G.G. G.G. in some , it's, okay, she had it's been, so, to be at the same place

than the place than the people were in you're trying to have been in right? You've got to do you?

Do you do you work there in the what's what you do you? I've worked two years

in the guard of but I was the old where I'm doing that when I'm my

bloodure had due to that. You're to be able to hear of you also before

that we had been that I've had been because of five in it's

arrived an event an event I've had a diagnostic I've a few

I'm also married two times when they're in a new in a he's going to what?

In fact, I'm in hospital the first time for my diagnostic of colate ulceroose

de colit ulceroose okay yeah, like a malady of so you it's

that's a similar a little I'm after the I'm back I'm after

I'm after I'm a gross amorrhagy. It's all right they were in two times. I don't know

how I'm doing for them. I'm trying to get to do with a party of Halloween. And I said, rest at the view, I feel

the pot, and I just just came out of a hospital, it's a time. They came to have been

a minute two times, my mom is there, my next that, I don't know how it's

not, I'm not, I'm like a blackout at that's moment, it's the moment that we're approached,

I've got the diagnostic of fibromyal by the And then I'm in the heartraised in the door, so, basically in the same time. Like, you're going to get a little? Yeah.

The life is retrap? Exactly. We know what I mean, we say, we're going to say, the karma, man. Well, you know, sometimes also, you know, what we've lived, the stress, it can cause many of the bobo-physic, you, you know, at the end of the line,

there are many that, you know, the years of, you know, of stress, of violence, to do that? I'd say, my next, he's not really in all, you know, He's, I think that's a certain a relation to

have been to your wife about a while, because you said I'm saying, I'm to try to get to, about 15 years?

About 15 because you me say, your life, to, let's say, your life, to, let's say, your wife

who's present for you're to help, all, not person, as they're in your life, uh,

the, there's, there's, there, a relation, like, a little, holloo-o-le-o-not-

not really it's not really what's the true or not but he had been he'll have been

a relation of seven but when I was at a beginning, it was all the

time he was the more he realized that he he he'd not have

to be on Facebook at every every I'm to say to say

every every someone I'm and one one I'm

something I'm that I said, well, I'd have to have a chance, because, you know, I'd just the way, I'd just love him, I'd like, but I'd say, I'd like, the fact that had on my

my wife, my wife, I didn't like, I'd like that, I'd like that, I'd like that, and I'd like, and then, and we'd, and then,

it'd, and more, it'd be, and more, it'd be, they'd, more than'd, more, they'd, all the time, to do you, to say,

she'd, uh, every time, every time, but he'd, so, so, But I had always

finished by me to be in the way, and it it was a reaction that was a reaction that was a

violent at the end of the past, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like,

we had demanages in a house at St. Lain, in 12, 25, not long time,

that's, it's been a, a pen, a year, then, and then, we had

had ackeed to our and we, and, and, at this moment, I've been, it's been

difficult. I said a relation that was difficult he had, he had on view, I'd say, I was like, I'm like,

I'm not there, he'd be there, he'd be sure of, you know, he'd be, he'd be, yeah,

he'd be, there's a hospital, he was there, but it's like on the other side, that we'd all together,

then I, I'd finish by the lesson, but it's really, really, really, because I'd

I'd like, I'd I'd imagine not, to go to someone of another, and I wanted to join no more, and I wanted to

make a choice. She said, she's me, she's my to say, where she's the choice of, she said,

but I chose my wife, she would be me to be able to me talk, so at that, she, at that I realized,

I've made a minute, there's, you know, there's something that's said that I think a little ironic,

saying, I'd say, I'd say, talking, I'd say, that you're saying, this person that

she doesn't, she, she, She'd be, and she'd, and, she'd, she'd, and, I'd, I'd,'d, I'd'd, I'd'd, I'd'd, and'd, I'd'd'd, if, and'd,

you'd'd be'd and'd, and'd, and'd, and, well, she'd, she'd, she'd, she'd, and, she's, because you're in a,

, and, you're in, a, it's a, , I'm in a... I'm in a bit, in this moment, and, I'd, and, I'd say, really, what, you'd,

you'd be, you'd, You're trying to try one other and he's, it's his pattern, it's a certain, he's always the same, he'll have to be the same. And at a moment of the day, I'm going to go, I'm going to, I'm going to,

I'm going to, a great crisis. A lot of, like, I've got to be finery, I've got to have to be a pen, and, you know, to play, there, I'm not able to be calm me,

so I, I'll make a tentative to my real life, I'd say, but I'd say, if I'll, to say info suicide. Info-suicide, yeah,

a suicide. I'm not even. A.8-C-6, it's a pill. And I feel like that's why. I'm a little bit of the same to understand, you know, so.

So, she'll say, well, we'll go you're going to an ambulance, we'll come in to care, and we're to take, I'm okay,

I'm just all at this moment that. He's, he's not here, he's not there. He's not. Then I'm saying, Madam Lowe,

you can start out, she'll be, you'll be a little sack with these effects personal, charge, all, just, just,

Choward out, four chawre of police. It's the LISQ, in fact, four chard of police. They'd me demand to make the men in the air, make the men, and put the genus,

put the men, and make the chard, I'm going to, I'm going to be in, I'm in a distress, but I'm in a minute, and he me foe, and it's like,

I don't, I, I'm, you're in mad, it, I'm in distress, it's me who's made to say, to say, I'm going to be

to say, I'm going to be in the hospital, in ambulance, To respond to that, because the people are doing Chris, yes, you know, to declare, they're just to say,

that's sure that you're that's not, that's in a stress psychological, so their to make a mal, lucid, you know, I know, I know that the

modus operandi is very deggalasse, but for your protection, but I think there would be more to do, like you

could demand to the person tranquillment, without the menotet, without... Well, that, you know, to have all the monot, I think, that it was not necessary at this

moment that, you know, I'd have been just, you know, maybe in the auto, if it would have, to ask the question necessarily, necessarily,

necessarily, because, you, I had nothing, you know, I was trying, to, you know, I was a, like, you know,

in a sense, just in gross distress, and I had been to be in a little, and I had been in a hospital, I'd call my mother,

my mom, but I'm at, but I'm at the, tell, this situation, at okay, I'm envied. Arrival at the hospital, I was a doctor, she was going to prescribe to a man,

and she's a board of course, a drug whey, a anti-depressorkewale. Yeah. But I've never been, I never seen. I've never taken to the church, because I'm going to say, I'm going to say, look, it's not right that I'm going to start. He'll start with her to have a mother. So, my mom, we're discussing, she said, I said, come in the house, and she, we're going to be, you know, we're going to get to this situation,

that. It's, it's hollew, like a situation. It's a lot, and, and... like, yeah, it's a good, so. So, like, I'm saying, you know, to say, what, the thing? The police? No, no, no, man.

We never, never asked me to ask you to go, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. And I'm going to get, then I'm going to get. So, I'm going to be my stuff.

It's like, I'm going to be my chien who's like, it's just to just to rammed to the because, you have, you been, to, you know, I'm, you've got to be

going to, you know, I'm saying, you know, or it's a guy who'd you'd be in a lot, but you'd say, at the end of the end, it was a lot of

physically, it was violent, psychologically, it's violent, it's violent, it's, you know, I'd say, I'd say a bit of the three. Okay.

Yeah, at a moment of time, I just in a barnaque, you'll have to be, you know, you're gonna, you'll be, because, you know, to say, that's, you know,

to me, to defend, and you're to call, see one, it's a while, it's been very few, but, you know, I mean,

the foot, at the moment, at this moment, I was like, I got in the hand by the guard and you're going to get to be in

the cue, I'm sorry, but you're doing so, but you're doing when you're because you're to make a matter

to make sure of your life, but it's the matter of that's what you have to be that crisis that,

to say, I can't be able to but I'm that I'm so that I'm so that you're that,

that you're that you're that, that's, What is that you're completely de-chery, you know, you're completely you're not saying, you know, we're saying, we're doing, we're doing,

when we're doing, you know, when we have these ideas like to want to to get an unloyalty, and that we love, and that we love, even if it's made a lot of things, you know, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, you, you know, you pass by the suit of all to

to have arrived at this way to say it's too suffering to live with him, and it's too suffering to

to be able to that I'm not exactly, but I'm saying, that's a little, you're in a

very much, and then it to be there to be, it's toxic, it's too toxic. So, finally,

I go to my affairs the day the day the landmine. So, like, he reminds my

stuff, then I, then I, then I'm, then I, I just, the pain, and I said,

I know, really, I'm playing with pain. I've never been able to my life. Mom, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My wife, she's probably. My wife, she, I'm going to have long. Because I've done, I've done a bad choice, you know. The choice would say, for the part, I've chosen my family, it's sure.

Well, this move that would have to be made. Ben, over. A couple of years ago, you know. For the first time that you've been trying to have, it's finished, we're going to, but... I'd say, but... I'd expect that they were

to be in the man that I've ever who's in that I'm going to be able to maybe a point in a

moment of a reality, but I'm a 502 years. The desire to want to be able to be able to

change. We can't change. We can't be a person, you know, he's not, I think,

it's not more, to change because it's having a to have a man, it's, it's to,

it's, it's a little to change because I'm a better life, and someone that's

someone who has made a lot, So he's, so he's still, he's still the mentality of prison, you know, he's like, he's all the time, prison, prison, so he's still a mentality there, and, I'm not there, I'm not there, I'm not in the same mode of day, if you know. But what's he's got, across, you know,

just as you did, you know, you've got to tafeet, you've got to be the most frequentation, you know, it's, what the most frequentation? You're being members of gang of rue? What's he, what's he attire? Because I'm because I know that's a question, because I know

that's going to be in a question, and I've seen, there's been a lot of people who have been in a question, but who

that's so easy to say, you know, you know, to find a job, to get to you know, and people

people have, probably the first, it's that, yeah, when we, when we're the violence,

it's rough, but when they're so they're so much in time, they're telling that the last time,

it's at the last , you're that, but you know, that you know this milieu that,

that you see, you know, that's your to do you know, that's that's the

way, it's the guy, Christmant more than to say, the age that had

at the age that had even not even even not already, but what that's

that's to be a ex-d-d- uh, at the I've always always

had always. A base, a ball, at the classic. But I don't know, I think, it was, the fashion

that he had with me when he I was just, I think it's, when he was fine, I'm like, my God, he's fine, he's done my beau, he's done my fin, and the partner had to start. And then, every time,

I just like, I'm just, I'm just he'd be afraid, just a fact he was fine, when he was fin, he was fine. It's all right, yeah, it's just, at a moment of the year, it, just a moment, it was, like, the words that were too violent. Then I've made, like, oh, ten minutes,

I did, you know, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, to return to get in to get to be in and then

to get on to get on to get to be in the right to even if he's a lot of that's

a matter when you when you want to want to be to be able to you know people who

people who me write to be I know someone who's that's what I'm can't

be there when this person that will decide that she has been to be to help

to help someone who can't be able to energy, you can, you can, you can, you can, go to

and then you know, and to say, if there's something, I'm in, you're in trying to

get to get, to get to something, it's pain and per die, time that you're not, the,

the, the decision of, you know, and when you know, I'm in the way, I'm in

a point, to say, like, like, that's a baronack, it's going to be so,

and, and he accept, this separation, Yeah, well, yes, but, you know, it's sure that after you're

and then, you're going, I'm back to that's like, no, no, it's not, it's not, it's not,

it's not that's not to be, you're not as a matter, you're saying, it's not that's the

and I'm the way, that's not so long that's the there's, there's a few,

there's, there's a time, there's not, I'm not to be responsible of this house,

so I'm, so I, I go there, the property and we'll have been, we're doing, we're doing

to get a day to get a day, I'd get to get a bit of a and he, he said,

he said, he said, he'd say, he'd have, I'd not, I'd like,

I'd be able to if you know, he'd say, he'd be able to if you're, we're going to get to gasy,

and I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I'm, okay, maybe there's maybe there's just

that's good Maybe he has changed No, no, no, no, no, I'm not No, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, but, you know, I'm curious, to know what I'm saying,

so, we'll talk, we'll discuss, the, the situation that's past, the police that's coming in the and he explains that's why,

he thought, he thought it was for he, at least, because you have not repalalue of this event, after, when, when it's

It's finished, you're going to get to do your affairs. No, no, no, we're not that way to do you know. Okay. And, um, we'll go to do that, I'll buy out, too, that, I'll

have to get, and I'll get to get, and then on the chumann's on a return. It's like, I've seen a person that I knew a person that I,

he's, like, he's, he's, I don't know, I'd say, but he'd be able to me and say, but we're on, on the road,

we're on, on the road, we're on, we're on, we're on, we're, like, like, no, you know, we're going to go to to go to go to show my shop, and I'm going to go see my

and I just don't, you know, I don't know, I think it's a thing that you can't not, like, I'll just, you know, and then we're gonna call, so. And then, yeah, I've seen in his face, the fact that I said, no, it's, like, totally changed.

He debarked the auto, open the door, and me, they're, I'm like, de-foy, he's, he, de-bark, I, I'd be derby, I'm gonna nizier, on bar, we're, we're, you'd have to, you'd have to sit, I just let's sit.

I'm like, I'm really in trying to live that, he's, you know, you know, I'm doing,

you know, I'm doing, I know, I'm doing, I'm not the key, not the door,

there's, you know, so you're in, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so I'm, so,

he's, like, he's, like, he's, back on, the road, on,

until I'm, I'm gonna, and I'm, then I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm really, I've been to view that, my ex, not because it's my ex, and I'm not, and even if I'm saying, no, it's no. No, no, it's so. I went on a lot of, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, you know, you know, you're not,

no, and I said, no, and I'm, and I'm, I'm going to, I'm, like, I'm, like, I've, like, I've, like, I've, I'd, I'd, think that one day, I'd live a, you know, I'd say, and I'd just want to tell you, because I'd say, I mean, I've seen a person that I know I know that,

you know, because of the way that you don't know, a guy who he's, who's, he's violent,

but that's, it's, that's ever been something that had been an issue in your relationship,

to, you know, of the kind of of even, even if it don't know, because you

love, so, he's, he's said, he's made a lot of prison. It's a

bit a cause of that. Okay. But, But I'm saying... But I'm saying... Well, I was saying, I said, he's a lot of prison.

I mean, it's a good idea of pay his debt, but I accept not the move. I never accepted the move that had made, but I'm in love with, you. So, it's a guy who had some guy who had these antecedents of aggressor. Okay, it's not a guy

that's not a criminal in the sense he did not, he did not a prison because it's an vendor of dope or the coin. So, you know, I mean, I mean to give it so, It's like he's

returned in his pattern because we're going to come here to come here to have been to come in

my bed to get in your head and I'm saying when you know, when you know, you know,

you know that's a guy who is a friend with you with you if you do, if you do the discussions

to have with you, you have been a crain that's when you're I mean, I'm saying, your mindset is what, at what point, you know,

you know, you, to be your tentative, you know, to suicide that you're that's, that's, that's someone who's someone, that's, that's what you think, when you

were there's not someone you're not, you're not a top? You know, I'm just, you're recruited these women for the gang

of the rues who have been pimped, you, you're a young girl, you capote a little with his frequentations who has,

and call out, and you're scared that they're And if you're if you're a guy in your life that's a intercedent

of the agration sexual, how you know, you know, when you don't know if I'm not, I'm a bit

in the face, excuse me, but it's because I think it when you know that's a guy that's,

you know, I've had an adolescent, a little cute, who, you know, it's like

it's like almost I serve you or you I'll say that's on a plateau, you know,

I see, that's something to have repensed. After, yes. But, what's the way that's

that's able to get to let's an idea? You have a un- confidence avocene? the Amor

is, I imagine that the first encounter not, he's he's made the prison for that, I imagine.

It's something is an information that's coming after, I imagine. Yeah.

I'm in a lot I think, after, when I got, I realized all,

I realized all what, all of what he had could But he's not but he's not arrived,

but I said, yeah, I mean, I said, yeah, when the lunatrosse if you're when you're

realise a bit, yeah, it's the moment I'm in love so I'm like, you know, he's never

made a much, you're never made to you, you, you, you,

you, absorb all, that, all, that, all, all, that's,

all, it's all of what that's going to see a month before,

that I'm trying to I'm still in shock, I'm still in, I realize not what I'm going to happen to be in my carport. After that, my mother said,

you know, you're going to play with, it's a problem, it's a , it's a you can't let's pass to that,

you can't let me, if he's he's made to he will be the other. Well, what's what you

have already done, finally? Well, I'm like, well, I'm going to party,

it's not away, so, So in a while to I'd have to be the police of Rodden and I'm

deposed my complaint. The night they're going to get to be with a deal with a case,

I imagine that, the night they're going to get to incarcerated I think to St.

Jerome, if I'm not not true by the after the following, I don't know no new

on. On the his agent of liberation he was informed a moment of the

when I were that was a Libre. In fact, the plaintiff, it has been retinue because... No, well, it's just, I said,

because, you know, with you know, the system juridic Canadian, if it's an affair that's an affair that, normally the process would be in a two and a half, you know, so,

so, they've been arrested on the coup. They're not, but the plaintiff had not been retained because his agent of deliberation has said that

because I wanted me vange of him to him, because of the separation. Okay, so So, so he's An agent of liberation Conditional,

who is not there, he's not, he's not, it's because she wants to to be vanguard. He said, he's because

I wanted to that's just to have been a lawsuit, that's all right because they they've been in a

prison, after that I don't know. I don't what's what he's what he's to do you

to know to say that I'm saying that's that's all right that's all right that's I don't know

I'm not a new new apparel. Is it to talk about it? The inquiries? It's the prosecutor who's a lawyer who you have asked to say, your plaintiff, are you there's any of the

questioner? It's the inquiries to have because I've met with the inquiries to make sure. It's been, it's passed between the coil and Mirabelle, well,

they've transferred my plaintiff to Mirabelle. And when I'm, because, there, I had not new of an inquiret, I thought it's bizarre. I'm like,

I'm obligged to me by me by myself to put those the police and what's, What's what's what's going to be in the plaintiff? I don't know if I'm saying, what's going to say? But then they've said that people have been taken to be retentue

at the cause of that. And I'm going to be based on the general liberation. So, we're going to have made a move that's quite quite quite a lot. And who's it? You know, he'd know, he'd say... And then, after we're the minister, the justice, who all the world and all right,

when there's an en-em-feminicide in saying, yes, it's a fact that an inquiry. There's a minute.

There's minimum. Is he still active? The 810? I imagine that we but I'm not

if he's in a carterer, I'm not I'm not that's a direct and direct with me.

Is it not a bad thing? It's the thing. It's the thing. And is it

is that is it is that is you crean for your security? I don't know at how point

it's a guy violent because you know, because you know about of violence conjugal also

but when you turn to at this point that I think there's a person who is for the

favor of sexual is able to be able to be able to not for, but I'm not not necessarily more than he

perhaps more than his nephew he's he's been very to have been he said

he's not true, he's not very, that's it's sure he's his the power, against the man.

He'll say, he'll say some of the other things. He'll say, he'll say, he'll say, he'll say, he's going to more, he's not,

he's what we're more than we, that's what? But it's what? And, you have vangeed to what? You know, yeah, I've

used to the amendment, but at the time, when you said, it's finished, it's finished, you, you're part, you, you know, why,

you're, you're, to, you know, you've got, to, you, you don't, you know, it's, it's,

it's, it's what you know what's it doesn't absolutely anything so we don't know madam mme de la rose excuse me i'm correct madame la rose uh we're not we're not we're not we're not not the agent of liberation conditional he said so and it's so so so so so he that he's made the prison for viola that he's who you could have violated well no it's because he said that's because he said you to be to be and so it's all right there and then after that we

I say, Madam, Porte the plaint, it's important. Yes, it's important, and I want, I don't,

you know, I don't know that's a question of to say, I'll not to put the complaint,

because it's not true, it's important to be able to and the time, it's of the victims

are of the more than more, the victim, I'm not, I think, that's not that has not

a place in our system in the government, and after then they're after there's,

ah, yeah, but, you know, the system, is made in the same pattern. So,

so you know, you live with that? I mean, I've been a lot, it's a few months, four months.

So I've to, like, to be able to be able to be saying, a bon, yeah,

it's, it's a thing, it's a but, you know, to, I continue

to work to be the same, I, do, more, I'm, more,

I'm, more, but, but, I'm the way, the best possible,

the most possible with that, I'll try not to to understand why it's not really, because it's

it's happening, it's happening, it's been to ask, but I'm not more, the question that's

because he's been able to a month and a minute after, a little tap his and then

I'm sorry, it's more the system correctional that I'm to understand to understand, you know,

like, you want, you want to you're able you're you're not, you're not. Did you

have you Tried to go Have you VAC Kavak Kavak I've got

I'm referred to a psychologist and honestly it's not really it's not

really I'm not to get the head old and every day I'm

I'm saying well today it's a other day I'm my little

my little my family my family I'm I've been to reproaching my mom more than more

because it's what we're saying with this separation that's just you're talking and you're like you're the three generations

on some of the we're retrape the time let's say she, she she, she she doesn't she'll give

what she when she had done my last I've done, my repas are my breakfast, my

she's like, what you're having to have young you're there today is that today or today

is that I'm talking to be to reprint to reprint in the you know to be

to reprimed, with her. Face it, you, face my old relationship, I try to make uproached my wife also, you know.

Because that that person that was that was, it was, it was, it was the center of your

universe, it's, it's made to get to be able to, so you, you've seen, we,

we've, we've jased a, a, one, the three in a minute, and you're,

to have really, a great, complicity, a great relationship, you know, we're trying, we're trying,

we, we're trying, we, I was to be afraid. You know, the confidence, to make your confidence in someone after that, you know, I mean, when you

when you're at a adolescence, you've made up to confidence to take to the guys, you're embarked in a pattern of violence and of, and the recruitment and all that. We've got to put

to put the confidence in your father who didn't. Well, now, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm not. The father of your

a girl who had 17 years, it's a time, he was not there, and when you

decided to retombe a more and to let someone to let someone to get a that's what you

see? At what there's a heart and it's a, return here the next.

The next, he's not prepared, no, he's not, he's not ready.

It's, it's, I know, my limit What I want to do is what I'm going to do now, and I know my limit. So if it's not

I'm not going to take, then you take your sack and you're going to be, you're going to be able? Okay, yeah. Because when you're going to be in love, you'll have to be in an amour. Yeah, well, I think that I'm not really going to be in love.

I think I'll be able to take more to my health, especially. I'm not a good health that's a coache, I think my treatment and all right. I have to take care of me,

before I'm trying to take care to someone to get to my family, my wife, my mother, me re-trowed.

The bad boys finish? Yeah. We're coming a minute, uh, the envy to change and the

envy to, not, uh, after to, after they know, after,

I'd, if I was just that, that I've received people, who had been,

uh, victim, and, and, I think to Gabi, she has she's got arrested with the ex

of Gabi who had been assassinated, she's, she, she, she, she, she, she's very present at the

level of government, and she, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, to the podcast,

and I'll get to people, the punitive, it's accessible to all. So, so if you can't count

someone, and you're not sure, you can, before to let get too to get to your life,

to get the punitive, to know, why the person has of the prison. If it has done it has

done it, if there's a question, we have the right to have to do know the

legal, it's available, you're in in a palace justice, you can make a person who's

a good that's that I'm to give to all the women who are not too

and it has been about with the appearance because you can have to

have been to have to have to have in the first of class and you

have an nice little of a nice little that, I mean, I think that I think that I think it's always, I think, I think it's obliged to suggest

to say it, but when I hear of these women who live these things like that, and that, and they're not enough, who part plaint, and when there's one, who will put it plinke, and that's going to belay that to go ahead and saying, well, you'd want to be to be able to push it more, and then, truce medico-legal.

You know, you know, it's a ruff after having had been ever been it's not, you know, because it's not, you know, because it's a part of the power of a person, you know, but at least it's had rendered a process. Yeah.

Because, you know, I'm the impression that if you'd be able to, you know, the envy to, you'd have to... Well, say, let's talk, it's a little a bit, yeah, but at the same time, I think it's the best thing to do to do, you know, that's the best of

present a psychologist and it had not a little bit I think I don't know

I'm not the time of how we did, I was not the affinity with I don't know

I'm a to make to express a little and I'm just not turn N. You're not

not afraid that you have that you've been to be to

to crossed that and to find like I I'm pass on

I'm go, and I'm going to go and then it's a bit of a little clack at a yole, because it's dangerous, to decrased. I've got to project to write a book

on my life what I've been and what I'd like to, just to it, you know, to it just to it, like, to, like, I mean, I guess when in here, it's also, it

it's a lot, it, in a time, you, I evacue, that I was going to evacuate. I mean, I've got the sack. But I have an intention also probably to, like, I'm probably,

to come as a project to write a book there's also. The creature is one the better than a therapy that I know, I think, the gym and the

craters are that's in mind the spirit, that's not real, and I'm just I'd like, and you're in this moment,

I'm in your mother with your daughter, and you know, Catherine, two, three, four, four,

the next year, What's what you You see? Your Your daughter You said Tendor So I imagine She's a minute

She will have It's the fun The three generations But I'm going to Live my life To see How much You know,

How you'd You know, With your Baggages, with all that How do you T'et At 24 hour

At the foe Or Taspire to something In the years Inns Inns Inns

I'm I'm I live On the day But I'm I said my project to create a book, it's a certain way. I put my ideas in place on paper,

and I have the intention to do. That's the next table of my life. To work and write my book. I'm defle the work. It's what I'm going to do you. It's what I'm going to fall in there. Before we just, you'd just, you'd be able to your bobo, and I'd say my mother,

who has a malady like your time, who has been declared inapt to work a lot of time because this malady that is very

very well, the fibromyalgia that can pass a day that makes, to be in chasse to go ahead to her cell

of the in, because she's some of the pain, but extreme that's the heart. Yeah.

And you say, no, I, you know, I, you know, it's a

little your therapy in this moment to work like, yeah, I'm defoling I,

I'm defoling. I'm to work. I like my job, so I'm at full there. When I'm at really, I'm trying to

get to think it. I'm just going to have to be to be able to have a control and get to be responsibility,

it's a well, it's it's a whole thing, so I'm going to think, I'm to think of other.

I'm the impression, and I'm doing my psycholog at two scenes, because it's not finished

my second so, so I'm going to but, you I, I have the impression that,

is the effort to find the becky and to get to becky and what's what's the and it's just just that a

minute it's easy to find to find the becky it's easy to make the hamster you know, a toupie

that's a rest of boot a toupie that's a don't. We're called the torpeye yeah,

but a torpile a manned when she's when she's when she's a minute when it's she'll come you know,

you know, I think, you know, I'm going to do, you know, a Psy, and it's affitte not a bit, and, you know, you've got to try to take care about, because I think they have a maximum of, uh, of, you know, I think.

And, you know, and it's, and, I mean, to, have a Psy, uh, have the time to take eight times, and, you know,

and, you know, form to, if it's, because, you, you, they, you, I know that your book,

yes, it's a therapy, it's a thing, but sometimes a professional, you know, not necessarily to have to have a gavit, but I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm doing, you know, I'm, I said for you, because, you know,

I'm not, you're not, you know, I've passed the 160 interview, there, I've seen, there's been on the way, thinking that he'd correct, and he had to plunge, you, yeah, and, and especially when we've had

been, these ideas, uh, before far attention, because if your your girl and you're part, then you

get to your mother and you're when you're isolated, sometimes when we know of the life,

we know a job. Yeah. That's for that's for she, she, I'm a thank you,

I'm trying to me re-fer as quickly in time. I'm in time, I'm at I'm at home

to, you know, I go to the podcast, you know, yeah, I'm, yeah, I just would have to be

to be to be to do you know, I'm doing to get to get to be better than

to be to be in this, I think, for me, for me, it's a fair,

I'm talking, I'm never to talk, you know, so I'm saying, baff, go-sie,

and you will be able. It's honestly, it's been to be good to, to,

to, to be, I'm, being, the, it's, what I'm, What I think

platte of your project of garrison, is that the person who's been able to

feel like with a call out. Tap his Do you? Did you informer if he'd

report their plain if there had a other way, if there were, you know, one,

once they they've been that's, because, because he had, to me to me

van, if I'm going to say, they're not, they're, it's the doesn't, it doesn't

nothing, it, they're the not a whole. Not a podcast very long but important essential

because I'm going to say and I will be able to repeat it plenty of times, we need

that the system so the victims be encodered, and and could be used

crue but but all allgrey all right that they feel that the people

that have to be the it's important. Because if we don't too of liberty to people who are

able to to go to where he is going to with you, it's going just in the end up here. We're not

on a big ponte of an real pout of this moment. No. But sincerely,

I'd I'd just that all that all that's there's nothing that

the blessure that, but I'm having been a 20 years of prison, what is made to be

a problem, it's a bit of the way to be able to live, to traverse that. I don't know

how to it's not it's not it's not been a beginning of your processus, of guiseon.

Well, it's a bit of here also, I'm going to because I'm seeing, you know,

I'm saying, you oh, you're telling, I'm, you're telling, I'd say, you're telling to,

people, and you're like without judgment that's a good to come to come to talk about it for that I'm the good,

it's why I'm doing the good to come to get the good, it's not the way, if I can't get the family

in a situation, it's more to want to to be able to be able to be plenty of those who who have been

in violence, I don't know, it's a plus for me, that's all this well, thank you to me to inspire confidence,

it's that me touch, sincerely that, that, that, that, that,

that, in confidence to to come to talk to with a guy and I'm it's, I'm too much

and it's the goal of time it's the best of the time your time to show to show that there

there's nothing there's there's a parenthase but you're being chancee of the role that's

you've played contrary to the role that you've made the other if I could say like that

and also by this view that by this relationship by all what what's what you have passed with that,

and to focus on what is important, it's a lot, the relationship that's the relationship that's really important, and then, you know, maybe Picasso, a little at the beginning, because, well, we have chisker, we have, chiscus,

the fact that today, she's, she's that, she's present, and that she, that you, that you, that you, she, is conscientious of what she, what she, she, is concerned, what she, she, has,

what she, she, to sur-sude, never too too time to have to get to get the family.

No, and they're in the father. We don't not, we know not to be a lot of

a little with us or, you know, if they're you know, they've been in the same

place than you I'm not really, I'm not really, I'm not, my frarar the, the previous

is to have in the immobliable, the entire I'm not, so I'm, I'm not really,

and the other, well, he's not not really really, it's not really, I don't really. Okay.

I've got not really the new that he's a little bit of the course difficult he's not

so they're also going to get to be your own after you know, I'm doing that I'm going to

you know, thank you thank you to have partaged all that and to have had

the courage because there very few of people of what you know to know to know

to have to be courage, to want to to want to talk, denounce to leave the flag

on the things that like the I'm going to I don't say that I'm saying other than

thank attention to you. At the pleasure. We'll be there. We're