Au Parloir - Épisode #160 - Priscillia Laplante

Episode Date: September 27, 2026

⚠️ Abonne-toi sur PATREON: WWW.PATREON.COM/AUPARLOIRDans cet épisode, je reçois Priscillia. Issue d'un milieu familial marqué par la dépendance, la pauvreté et les traumatismes, sa jeunes...se bascule après le suicide de son grand-frère. Rongé par le choc post-traumatique et la consommation, son père sombre dans des épisodes de psychose et de paranoïa. À seulement 14 ans, Priscillia vit une véritable prise d'otage armée à la maison avec sa mère et son frère, qui se conclut par le suicide de son père.Malgré les épreuves, les abus et les difficultés, elle a fait le choix de la résilience. Aujourd'hui mère de quatre enfants et cofondatrice du Café Parenthèse à Saint-Eustache — un refuge et un espace sécuritaire pour les personnes en situation d'itinérance ou d'analphabétisme — elle offre aux plus vulnérables la dignité et l'écoute qu'elle a toujours prônées. Son parcours est une leçon poignante d'espoir et de courage.☠️ Suivez-nous pour ne rien manquer :Tik tok : [https://www.tiktok.com/@cedricbergeronparloir](https://www.tiktok.com/@cedricbergeronparloir)Instagram : [https://www.instagram.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour](https://www.instagram.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour)Facebook: [https://www.facebook.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour](https://www.facebook.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour)⚠️ Pour collaboration : contact@auparloirpodcast.com Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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Starting point is 00:03:51 of a tragedy familial that have engendry other tragedy familial that
Starting point is 00:03:58 does today the family that you are and the the that's the proof that you have to try to
Starting point is 00:04:05 get to get to get to the negative I think that's what you have to do that I'm with you,
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm with you know with I'm with the base you know to what kind of family
Starting point is 00:04:15 and we echelone that until today. Well, I've I've got to
Starting point is 00:04:19 St. Mart on the Lack so so we're arrived in 90
Starting point is 00:04:23 we're to the campang we're in Bannliu, new milieu, first house also
Starting point is 00:04:31 bought. My father was factor for Post-Canada and my my mother, in the secretary,
Starting point is 00:04:38 and I worked in these companies here. Adjoint administrative. Gen. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I said that I know, I know it's not a word, but at the time it's a
Starting point is 00:04:49 secretary. Exactly, exact. Friends of two brothers, which one a half-frey
Starting point is 00:04:56 but we've always considered as a brother who had eight years and a little brother in the
Starting point is 00:05:03 one that's a year and a two years a family traditional family traditional is there a lot of
Starting point is 00:05:11 the case of the dependence of the violence in this family there? Well,
Starting point is 00:05:16 you know, in fact when I were young it seemed not so But, gross Ombudsmodo, my
Starting point is 00:05:23 father, I was consuming a cocaine, of alcohol, a lot of a little, I think,
Starting point is 00:05:32 I think, I think it was a bit of that, arrived at the barque of New Marial,
Starting point is 00:05:36 after that, transfer in camppang, the banliue, et cetera, so, so,
Starting point is 00:05:41 the of consumption that's develop a little with the time, and we
Starting point is 00:05:47 will be the field of the history, that's So it's a bit of the famous eventment we're going to talk, before the first event, the element of the clencher, it's already in his life?
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's already in his life. Incourt, in my mom and my father, they've had started, in the front, my parents had 17 years. So, he was very young. My mother had already a child, so my grand friar, that had had an person precedent.
Starting point is 00:06:13 They've had they've got their life like that, at 17 with a baby. So, so it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:06:18 it's, it's a, so, my father from a family where it's all all the
Starting point is 00:06:23 family, so he had, in the five, five, so it's, so it's
Starting point is 00:06:28 a little rock and roll in the coins, but, you know, you know, you mean,
Starting point is 00:06:34 it's a factor, so, good time, all right, all right, it's certain
Starting point is 00:06:37 issues, is, at this at this time that, is a, a, a,
Starting point is 00:06:41 a consumption problematic, or it's a consumption recreational creative is, is something that's something
Starting point is 00:06:48 that's something that's that? I'm going to I'm in the sense where my father has
Starting point is 00:06:57 kind of granded in a place that's quite quite quite quite the consumption
Starting point is 00:07:04 of cocaine has made that eventually he has quite developed certain trouble,
Starting point is 00:07:10 a lot of violence, a lot of impulsivity, et cetera. So, you know, we'd see, we'd have some of the young, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:07:17 some of the chicanne of family, etc., which deroyed a little. But it was it was just, I mean, the work, you know, the work, it was geree well, the life familial, the responsibilities
Starting point is 00:07:28 gere, and it's an issue, where's it is a lot of time to make on the air, if a call out, or if you're not
Starting point is 00:07:37 far to be because we don't know how's what he will react, or it's not at this point? It was not at that point that. In fact, my father, it was really
Starting point is 00:07:46 an idealist, the sense where my father is all the first, in the fond of his family, he had made his studies, he had made his studies for being countable. And in the recession that he had in the years 82, if I'm not
Starting point is 00:08:02 83, something like that, in fact, he's been a lot to try to do work in his domain, and he had not perced, and he said, because he'd I'd say he'd say, he'd say, he'd say, I'd have a job, I'd say, I'd have been a bit, you know, it's a job for a travel, it's, it's a family, and we're
Starting point is 00:08:19 contented to that. It's, we're doing, to, it's promenue to panse at at a table, and the bar, there's not, there's no, no, there's no, to help them to find those impo, , they're, they're appellate the loan to pay. Exactly, but, you know, he was, quite perfectionist, I mean, before to enter, at the maternal, I, I know, I'd know my table, of multiplication.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It's a good idea. We were there we were in a family that I'd say, I'd say some of the
Starting point is 00:08:45 values of respect, of honesty, of loyalty, some things kind of a good base, very, very installed
Starting point is 00:08:54 and then even a good encardrement. We didn't not, it was not a family let's see
Starting point is 00:09:02 and the kids are what the people do you feel that you feel like you feel like you were to do you
Starting point is 00:09:08 were very encodered. But, there were there's there's there's related to the consumption.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Young, we'd see more because we had cuched more than the bonner also, but
Starting point is 00:09:18 it's that, in years, after, you know, we've seen, I've had a grand
Starting point is 00:09:23 frar, in the fond, that's called Stefan. Stefan, in the phone, being in the guard
Starting point is 00:09:28 partaged, and, with his father, he's partaged in the two families, exactly,
Starting point is 00:09:34 and then the fact, has developed also of the issues of consumption. In other,
Starting point is 00:09:38 in the time, it was a coll. So, the young, it's new it's not a call.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And then eventually, the alcohol, et cetera, but, you know, it's so, he has
Starting point is 00:09:48 to have probably, maybe some of, there's a , you know, to get to CGO,
Starting point is 00:09:54 but, there's not with the Colo, and it's, it's a very, I'd say,
Starting point is 00:10:00 I'd , you know, by the young that, you'd like, you know, I'm, you,
Starting point is 00:10:05 I'm, I, I'd like my comprehension of a little little girl of 10 years in the time, you know, but grossomodo, in the fond, my brother,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I think I'd search a lot and eventually, there were a lot of conflict also, you know, between my mother,
Starting point is 00:10:23 he wanted to go to say, there, there had some, you know, there had some many my father,
Starting point is 00:10:31 he had come to deraping a little more, you know, consume a little more, my grandfrette arrived at 18 years, he's permitted a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:37 more of affairs it's a cause big chican at a point where's the moment of a moment of a year, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:42 my father, in his derraignment, I'll say like that, he has made the cuto on the gorge
Starting point is 00:10:49 to my frar because he had been to my mother, you know, and at after that,
Starting point is 00:10:54 well, I mean, my friend, in the he is part, he is parted, and he's not revenue,
Starting point is 00:11:01 it's the last time that we've seen, you know, You have talked to the past?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yes. Because it's not because it's not the famous element of the clancher that I
Starting point is 00:11:13 talked about when your your friend had quitted at 18 years, so you would be a
Starting point is 00:11:19 about about you're in a dozen of about exactly it's the last that you
Starting point is 00:11:23 see that you see the last that I know I'm at
Starting point is 00:11:27 at at my time that I'm that I'm that I'm In the phone, in fact, I'd say, I'd say, grossomodo, has continued,
Starting point is 00:11:39 his consumption, et cetera, and eventually, well, a matine, in the front, it's jocke in the bottom of the parkier, you know? That's the same, the consumption. You're not there, you can't talk about for him, but it's that, these issues of consumption,
Starting point is 00:11:52 of, some, of the bullying, or, long of the family, sometimes. We're talking about a press, in a... Yes, and there's a letter that has been left,
Starting point is 00:11:59 in fact, some people. a little, a bit, a bit, a bit, a bit of vaguer,
Starting point is 00:12:07 so, so, that's, probably, he was in a state to be in a lot of the
Starting point is 00:12:13 point, but it's that, you know, some years after, they've made the rampart of
Starting point is 00:12:17 the on, and there were, there were there's in the year,
Starting point is 00:12:22 in the in 2014, in 2014, that's his death, had taken to have exactly,
Starting point is 00:12:27 he's not he's not, you know, we're saying, it's so, it's so, no, it's so,
Starting point is 00:12:31 it's so, it was at the month of March, so there was a few of chance to be in mind a lot of course, it was a event that's
Starting point is 00:12:36 an event that's an event which I think is not the case now, in the case, where it's made to different
Starting point is 00:12:42 ways, so we have identified a death, a day, your frere had your frere was madaned
Starting point is 00:12:51 physically because you're soot in the point, and we asked, the police had to demand to your
Starting point is 00:12:57 father, to go, to get the to identify, and my father has wanted to take his responsibilities, in
Starting point is 00:13:02 fact, because in the fond, I'm, in other a number that he had proposed to be able to identify himself, and my father has refused, you know, but what you know, is that when you
Starting point is 00:13:13 salt in the bottom, well, you know, I mean, it's not like you tombe in the water, gross-o-d-o, he has, like, rapped,
Starting point is 00:13:21 all the bar, of the base of the bays of the bottom, just to be cras on the glass in the back. So,
Starting point is 00:13:26 so, you, all that, you, to say, that the spectacle, finally, never would not be very very beautiful.
Starting point is 00:13:32 My father is to identify his his son infant, who had he was
Starting point is 00:13:35 the most the face arached, we're really there. Chek you can talk about
Starting point is 00:13:40 that's for me, it's important, to mention that the suicide is a it's a
Starting point is 00:13:48 solution definitive a problem temporary in general. So, so, 18,
Starting point is 00:13:57 6, 6, call, if you have some ideas, you have some the pensions, it's a problem permanent
Starting point is 00:14:05 to, it's a solution permanent to a problem temporary. Because I'm important to mention it. So it's an
Starting point is 00:14:15 image, so someone, I know not your person, but in general someone who consume,
Starting point is 00:14:23 when it's more recreative, it's already someone who has been to appease certain
Starting point is 00:14:30 sufferance, you know, I think I've got to have an experience of people who have been in
Starting point is 00:14:36 the problem of consumption and often, even if someone is not not quite camufely
Starting point is 00:14:42 these big bobo and there we've been to add a big coche his appell clearly.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And, you know, I want to say that, to what I have seen also,
Starting point is 00:14:51 the issues of consumption, there are certain person also who are hyper-sensible. And this hyper-sensibility, is hard to get, and clearly that my father, it's a person who is hyper-sensible.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So, at the end of the end, we're talking, brief, we're talking to shock post-traumatic, you can't get an identifying your child like that, without a shock post-traumatic, but in these years, it was not necessarily diagnostique, it, it was not well-known,
Starting point is 00:15:20 we were already in the judgment of all what is depressed, and a question, et cetera. An man, it's a man of his generation. In 2014, yes, it's already more evolved, but he's not in 1980. I'll say, it's a man of another generation.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Exactly. We're not, we're not and I'm not talking about it's at table. A man, you have to be able to be far, it's a-so-medicamance, because it will not be able to be a medicine, and the alcohol, the Coke, it's all, that.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's a part of it, and I'm a badgerat. But, yeah. And, really, and, ironically, It's really especially, the factor,
Starting point is 00:15:56 the cocaine was really very rependue and the depression also. It was really a moment where there
Starting point is 00:16:04 had a congey and that the people had not very very much. So, it's not
Starting point is 00:16:11 necessarily a case to be to be in the history, but it was a
Starting point is 00:16:17 reality in the fact, that, by the people that were that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And, after this event that, he changes, it's not the same man? Well, no, he is cased. But he returns to work. He returns to work. And then he... We're crazy. He essay, he essay, and he essay.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And eventually, but he's not the choice. He has to come in a conge of a disease because he functioned put, you know? So, like, he's part of the grand machine federal. So, you've got, can't even access to des assurances, et cetera. and you have some obligations to go
Starting point is 00:16:53 an psychologist I don't know I remember not how many times which is a good thing it's certainly more more
Starting point is 00:17:01 more than you than it's absolutely but but all that but all that he was he was quite well
Starting point is 00:17:07 he had quite he lived a lot of judgment because as you know the depression in this time
Starting point is 00:17:15 that it was just in your head and it's because it's because it's perous no it's
Starting point is 00:17:19 it's parreceous He wants the T-off, they'll fill the Poo, he will the T-A. And, and then, it's some of the things I can't
Starting point is 00:17:24 again, in 2012. Well, yeah, I know, some, you know, some,
Starting point is 00:17:31 they've been to get in the work, there, the family, and it's been, there, she,
Starting point is 00:17:38 she, she, because in two, this person of the same, person of the
Starting point is 00:17:42 same to the person of the person, the same, I, and, oh, we're,
Starting point is 00:17:46 we're, we're, we, but it's, there's a very task in your dossier. The people, they know
Starting point is 00:17:51 they're going to they're going to they're doing, they're doing, they're not, they're not, they're not, he'll never
Starting point is 00:17:58 more of responsibility, you're not a person, exactly, it's not necessarily really related to the work, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:05 we're not, it's not, but I think that the people are more sensitive also today, now, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:10 the death of an child, you, it's, okay, you know, we're, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:14 we're not, you know, in the impact important. But, you know, I'd say, I'd have different chappos in the life, but, entre other, we'll, we're going to we're talking to the Chamber of the Communion,
Starting point is 00:18:26 to the Committee of the Condition Feminine. You know, these realities by these parents, who perils of their children, it has not of good sense, no, no remuneration, not of
Starting point is 00:18:39 congey, not, you know, a conge of a malady very limited. Brief, you know, we're in in trying to change that. We're even
Starting point is 00:18:47 not run-in- there, and it will be in a time,
Starting point is 00:18:50 it's a not a when you know, when you know, when you have a family, to have a
Starting point is 00:18:58 point, but if you don't per one, you have to have a to have to have a
Starting point is 00:19:04 person, you know, and I think it and I think it's for the first time,
Starting point is 00:19:10 my friends, my feet are in studio, so I'm not, they're not just me imagine that,
Starting point is 00:19:16 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know a very pretty who has lived in a
Starting point is 00:19:22 year ago. And it's, it's a year that's a time to start a not, it's not, it's not the,
Starting point is 00:19:29 it's not a medical, for long time, and in travel, leg, you know, because it's, it's enormous,
Starting point is 00:19:38 it's impactant, it's, it's, it's a joy, to have a time, to bring someone to find a
Starting point is 00:19:42 to be in aft, but if it's a parent, to have a for taking to take care of to take
Starting point is 00:19:49 to have a man, yeah, really? And if you have not an assurance, it's very
Starting point is 00:19:53 limited, you know, you're three months of a malady paid, so, so,
Starting point is 00:19:58 try to re- to re-revelling after three months. The people who are never re-leven, well,
Starting point is 00:20:03 no, exactly. But, it's not a judgment, but you could, that's a
Starting point is 00:20:07 debate, we're going to when we're when we're when we're going to get to and I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:12 and I'm I'm sure, and I'm by talking to our rot and the hospitals, so, because the auditors know this whole lot of opinion on, approach me, never, to make a party of a party
Starting point is 00:20:21 political. It's a very bad idea. But, so, so, it's a man who is brisier, but who, you know, he's finally, but you say, he's, finally, it's...
Starting point is 00:20:31 Well, yeah, it's not, it works. But, yeah, the arre of work also with the price of medication, because, there, if you're not, if you're not, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:40 I mean, you know, that your assurance, and your employers will say that you want to be able to help you so, so you're
Starting point is 00:20:46 so you're trying to try to try to get some of the anti-depressers so brief,
Starting point is 00:20:50 we've seen all the color, I've my my father having the hockey
Starting point is 00:20:55 for a month and a day every day every year every time, more
Starting point is 00:21:00 capable to not capable to be able to it's it has it has it's
Starting point is 00:21:06 someone even someone who is even a okay for a month and a minute, you have
Starting point is 00:21:12 to get a lot, but it's aphatically in the sense that if you're still, you know, it's already, someone who's not, someone who's not, and everything,
Starting point is 00:21:21 and all that, and what I'm also, for to have lived, I mean, I'm to have, to have, been in arre of
Starting point is 00:21:29 your medicine, you're in your medicine who know, you know, you know, to make an arre of work, and conscient,
Starting point is 00:21:36 and there, the medicine of the company, or the company of the assurance that he'd one time, a half hour,
Starting point is 00:21:41 perfect, he could return to work and then you're like, well, you're like, I'm not, okay,
Starting point is 00:21:46 I'm not to be able to come back, like, two days or a week, you're doing that's a
Starting point is 00:21:52 correct, not the doctor, so it's either your job. Yeah, there's a way, but I'm but it's but I'm,
Starting point is 00:22:00 but I'm, it's just that's changed a bit with the time. I think there more of sensibility, but it's clearly not perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So, so there he he's, he suly the recommendations? Exactly, exactly. But there, what it's it's, it's, it
Starting point is 00:22:17 makes that my father is at the house at every day. Now, it's quite a person, you know, the factor,
Starting point is 00:22:24 it's a lot of nothing, but he march the kilometers per day, and it's kind of a work
Starting point is 00:22:29 that's very physical, but there, the day or the day, you're all the activity
Starting point is 00:22:34 physical. And then, what's what you have to do you have to do with your day to do your own at the exact? You're going to
Starting point is 00:22:40 get a boutteet, you go and you go ahead, you're going to listen to the TV, it's a bit so it's not so it's not
Starting point is 00:22:50 so, and the and all over the you get overbe a little your personal,
Starting point is 00:22:56 you know, I mean you're like you're like more to be more by a bit by
Starting point is 00:23:01 you're doing you're doing you're doing you're doing you're also, you know, so. So, so it's a little bit that, in the phone, my father,
Starting point is 00:23:10 it's made to be to make, these new friends who were on the aid social, and I, and I'm,
Starting point is 00:23:18 I absolutely nothing, against the health, but of the people who had these great an issue,
Starting point is 00:23:24 that it was the issues of consumption or the issues of the health mental,
Starting point is 00:23:28 et cetera, and it's been new friends, and the people that you frequent on the
Starting point is 00:23:33 eventually, clearly, who's, they have an impact on your way to to develop
Starting point is 00:23:39 as a person. You know, there's a certain tendency, so we're we're in seeing by,
Starting point is 00:23:46 if it's a person, and if it we're a little, we finish, we end up and we're
Starting point is 00:23:50 to be able, because we detain on the people, the people detain on us, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:54 it's... well, well, and, and, you know, what I'm not mentioned, in fact,
Starting point is 00:23:59 is that, we, we, and the cousins, all the people are always together
Starting point is 00:24:05 and the whole of all the people were on the river south and we, we're
Starting point is 00:24:12 demanaged on the river which has really isolated my father. There was
Starting point is 00:24:17 a friend there was that this kind of that it's like frited on the
Starting point is 00:24:25 few of the years and when he's coming in the when he's deflaced
Starting point is 00:24:29 p. he's not So, you know, in other, at cause of the alcohol, I mean, it's been to get
Starting point is 00:24:35 for consumption on volant. And my father, is a person very, very fair, there,
Starting point is 00:24:42 he wanted to do the prison, you know, and the next time that he had been to be able
Starting point is 00:24:50 to be in a state, he had in prison, so he decided to not renewing his
Starting point is 00:24:55 permit to do you, so, so. So, there, just just launch a
Starting point is 00:24:58 boutte Exactly, because... It was more easy. It was more easy to do do that. And then, I know, the
Starting point is 00:25:05 people of the region will be 30 30 years, 35 years, at St. March on the lake, the transport
Starting point is 00:25:12 in commerce, it was not great, but I'm sure, I'm not not quite exceptional if it's
Starting point is 00:25:19 not even more too, more than St. March, and it's not not not quite
Starting point is 00:25:23 not, I'm not I'm not don't know, I'm not there's there's not, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:25:27 And even if there, I said just to part in a bus to St. Mark, if you're like, it's like, it's like, it's a good one. It's been to be a bit of a little bit longer, you see? Oh, yeah, so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't know if it's a pattern that. I'm going to go to the next couple of years, so I don't know. It's just, it's probably, it's whatever. But all that, to say, he's still kind of, really, really
Starting point is 00:25:51 isolated, you know? Because it's a matter of you, you're at a school, so, in the day, he, he, there's person. And he just, he just, to chillies with with the chileu
Starting point is 00:25:58 who they boeve and sniff and in this pattern that, exactly, and just in the way, so at the
Starting point is 00:26:04 end with the time, they're a bit part of the bit by the bit, it's being to consume more,
Starting point is 00:26:10 the health has a bit the bar because that you can't be that, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:14 that's, you know, to get in the world of the health, you know, you do you
Starting point is 00:26:18 do the sit on your sofa all the whole and you and you buy,
Starting point is 00:26:21 it's it really really it's it's the the little little
Starting point is 00:26:29 you're in the young adolescent, you're in the whole young, you're in trying to see what, yeah, it's more,
Starting point is 00:26:37 it's who, that's, you know, it's not the man that I know, it's not, the man that's, it's, not, and,
Starting point is 00:26:43 especially, you, my father, is a person kind of, just, very, very, well,
Starting point is 00:26:48 , you, always, probably proper, and, and there, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:26:52 really, really, really degraded, but, you know, between, let's my 10 years and my 14
Starting point is 00:26:59 years, my reality, my comprehension of the world, it's my little world familial, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:07 and it's that's, even at the level exterior, you know, my father had been
Starting point is 00:27:12 so, so, terribly, even with the people, with the boysin, the boysin,
Starting point is 00:27:19 they had power, it's really, it's really, it's we, we,
Starting point is 00:27:24 I mean, I remember, we have some people aged who'd abutte to ch'in'u, you know, and then my father had a lot of functioned, so the gazon was relatively long,
Starting point is 00:27:34 let's go, and he made a point out, you know, but, you know, my father is going to conned at their port, with a carabine
Starting point is 00:27:42 in the menacing that if he had had been a little and he'd be taken, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'm saying, you, the people around had a power, the person our tour were at all
Starting point is 00:27:54 the time, there were person, when I was when I was when I'm there's that they were in
Starting point is 00:27:59 my own that's that they're not a lot of that's and I'm know, and I'm
Starting point is 00:28:07 know, my parents he fumed, my parents, my parents, three packets per day,
Starting point is 00:28:11 each, I, I'd feel the the old clop, there, we'd
Starting point is 00:28:17 not know, it's so that's so so, so finally, I'm, you're like, 80%
Starting point is 00:28:22 percent of the of the children of these years of the 90-90. With the rites of charles, the windows with the smoke that's the only can't even if you can't have any of the next? So, yeah, I'll add you to
Starting point is 00:28:34 that, you know, I'm not liy, in recent, but I'm russed, carot, with the shoes, I'm ashamed of mine. Look, it should be cute, I, you know, I'd say the year I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'm at the same, because at least, what I thought ironic,
Starting point is 00:28:48 is, that your father decides, to have to stop to have been able to be, because he'll not return in prison, but to have been asked with a carabine. It's a good way to be in prison. Yeah, but it's of the impulsivity.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But it's that, because my researchist me had given some line, and, you know, your father has some of the episode just like, what's what I'm
Starting point is 00:29:09 recounted, that your father had certainly violent, but that's really in dissociation or in psychose, and when he'd
Starting point is 00:29:15 to come to him, he paniqued? Yeah, it's so, he pleaded, excuse, because he is really in dissociation, you know, when you're in PTSD, you're
Starting point is 00:29:25 not there, you know. Yes, and at all the last, it's the consumption, you know, at the end, let's say, my father, he had been
Starting point is 00:29:36 in desintox for to do this. I don't know not that he retoucher to the cocaine, but after, you know, I had my
Starting point is 00:29:45 friends, who had a bit trash, who came to at home she's and who he consumed
Starting point is 00:29:49 with my father. So, my, my, my, my, my
Starting point is 00:29:52 my my people had he was to the d'aub.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So, we're talking, like, the bivar, of the mescaline, all
Starting point is 00:30:04 sorts of of a mix, that you say, we're going, the guy,
Starting point is 00:30:08 he was, like, we're clearly of the same generation, because
Starting point is 00:30:12 with what you just that, I'm like, we're clearly on,
Starting point is 00:30:15 But it's That's it My, my Amis, He'd Fumé There's quite For us
Starting point is 00:30:22 For us They're The Bonn't Coe When we're When we're When we're When we're
Starting point is 00:30:27 I've got I've seen I've been I've been I'm in I'm not cool Pantot
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's not cool for the Because we My My dad He's He's too cool
Starting point is 00:30:36 He doesn't But he He doesn't But I'm My My Pair My My Pern
Starting point is 00:30:40 Me Me' My W'clock To come My My I was I'd attend to work. Your mother,
Starting point is 00:30:46 my mother is a person fantastic. But, I've been 14 years that I've never to talk to my mother. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Let's on at this epoch. At this time, it's always been really a good person. But my
Starting point is 00:31:02 mother, in fact, it was really, it was a woman who had extremely fear, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:10 she would say, and she would be, she would be, she, my father not decided.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You know, I've said, you know, I'm doing, you know, I've got to get a, we're doing,
Starting point is 00:31:18 we're more to get to get to get to their life, that's a whole life, it's, she's just
Starting point is 00:31:26 rest there. And, you know, my mare, it's a woman who had to work at part of the
Starting point is 00:31:32 morning, in the car, she'd come, I'd say, she'd say, she'd
Starting point is 00:31:37 do, she'd be, she, But I'm not, you know, how I can say that? I mean, I'm just trying to come to an coup adult when I've had had been in the fun, my mother, I'm not going to be in his bra, and I had not a moment privileged with my mother, because my mother was always in trying to
Starting point is 00:31:59 be sure, you know, in the fact, to secureize his environment, to assurred that my father was good and, et cetera. But, you know, we, you know, at all the time, and my my little friend, in fact, we're in fact, we're quite accessory,
Starting point is 00:32:13 in her life, so, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,
Starting point is 00:32:19 she, she, she had, for, let's, our need, but, but, she,
Starting point is 00:32:24 it, was, in a situation where she had a place, the rest, had not the
Starting point is 00:32:31 place, she, she, she, she, she, she, and,
Starting point is 00:32:35 she, totally, , , that for her, it's a third infant, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:41 in your and you know, so, so, so, so, he's not, he's not,
Starting point is 00:32:47 he's not, the other, they're not, there's a , you know, it's a bit that's, it's a,
Starting point is 00:32:53 it's, it's, it's, she, I think, that, I'll have not,
Starting point is 00:32:59 I'm not, you're not, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, it's a moment, in this situation,
Starting point is 00:33:04 plus, that's a woman cartesian, she does, she does, she has not , She's here and this soul,
Starting point is 00:33:09 we've got to be She said. She said, she She said, But at all the last of all the of this, it's that, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:15 we were, we were archipov, we, we had a misery to because my father had also some
Starting point is 00:33:23 the problems of the year at over these years, because what's you do you do you know,
Starting point is 00:33:27 because what's that's so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, at the mother,
Starting point is 00:33:33 she had to do a lunch, because she had done to work, and she's , she's , they were, and of suc.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So she had a tranche of pears, and put her butter, and it was her own lunch for the journey, and it's that he had maintained. So, so, the tranche of
Starting point is 00:33:48 ballone, he was counted, we were, we were really there in time, you know, and of consumption, because the consul
Starting point is 00:33:54 is not gratis, not the point? At the moment, your father, has been in arre of his, is he returned, to have,
Starting point is 00:33:59 he's not returned, he's never, returned, and he's never, returned to but, but, in fact, it's because
Starting point is 00:34:03 it's because it's It was so much degrade. You know, I mean of a story, where there were one or two of his brothers who
Starting point is 00:34:10 had a lot, and I, this episode that's not me who had seen it, I've heard about about it, but he had
Starting point is 00:34:18 to get a and he said, he said, there's not, it's not, there's an extraterrest that's seen at the table
Starting point is 00:34:23 with us out, it's not, it's not your friends. It's, so it's, so it was, it was in
Starting point is 00:34:31 a other world, entretan, And the next then they'd whoop, si he'd and then
Starting point is 00:34:35 he'd he'd I'm sure not, what's what's I'm just a
Starting point is 00:34:39 yeah, it's not it's a time, what we're saying, it's like, it's
Starting point is 00:34:45 so they could be aggressive, that they could be able to hear of some schizophrenic,
Starting point is 00:34:52 that's, you know, not, not, because, you know, schizofference, it's because you're
Starting point is 00:34:57 saying, it's just it's just, you're saying, you know, they're doing, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:02 In other, the Coke, it's a, you know, if you're a bit paranoia in the life, it's been four-mill. But, in fact, he is rested with the angeal of paranoia, he is rested, you know, it's really that. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:14 to add to that, you know, and, you know, the bivore and the, you know, the champions magic, and then, you, at a moment of a day, the brain, he digerate not all, and then, with the antidepressure, you know, the, you know, the perfemix,
Starting point is 00:35:28 alcohol-include, it's that. So, you know, there's plenty of episodes, you know, these episodes where, you know, I mean, let's on a moment of an end, I'm and I'm gonna always
Starting point is 00:35:43 just on an orrevee. You know, I was always in hypervigilance all the time, all the time, you know, I hear, and my mother has cried, and you're me made, you know, you
Starting point is 00:35:51 make mal, you know, and, you know, I was very, very fonseo, I was always in color, always fashed. But I think
Starting point is 00:36:00 that it has been a lot of very much to be frustrated like that I'm saying, but I'm
Starting point is 00:36:07 doing it, I'm on and my father has a catana the kind of the sort of the sort of
Starting point is 00:36:13 you met on your wall, well, he's to be able to be to be
Starting point is 00:36:17 to be because he conscious of all the pain that's he wants
Starting point is 00:36:25 that's not that has not a bad sense and the only thing What he wants, it's, like, to get, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:30 to get, you know, and he's saying, well, say, I'm going to die, it's going to be the problem, you know, so,
Starting point is 00:36:37 so, these episodes like that, a repetition, I'm going to be there. Well, with my friend, just,
Starting point is 00:36:46 your acutters, I just, I just, I'm not grossed with your micro, you know, I'm sure,
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'll, I'll do, I'll make, no, it's because you didn't, no, it's, because you're just,
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'm not very because I'd just be sure that we'd get up to your mantle. So he'd be sure that's not my double manton. I'd like to ask you not the same. No, but I'd more pose the question for when we're so on, you know, and if I'd be posed not a question, it'd have to be, the little, the little, he would just
Starting point is 00:37:16 go to the whole lot, go to the long, go to the long, go to the microphone, so on the microphone, is so on the microphone, is so. No, no, no, no, no, I'm correct, you'd be that, we can't, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's good. I'd like to make these points like that. I'm going to focus on you. But that's right. You say,
Starting point is 00:37:32 you know, you know, so you know, so you know, I'm going to see that's because I'm going to end my
Starting point is 00:37:36 mother. My mother, she has had the two hands on the catana, and has to retone
Starting point is 00:37:41 my father who wants to be so, so I'm traversed, and I'm cross the catana and at two
Starting point is 00:37:48 we're just, you know, so it's some of the situation like that in the a young woman of which age,
Starting point is 00:37:56 at a pretty, um, we're in 13, 14 years, we're really in the last years, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:02 just before that's the same thing, we're in a total. Because it's really, it's a big episode.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But I'm sure to see, on what, and I don't not quite, he's at-life, we'll be in not over not
Starting point is 00:38:15 but your little friend, it's, you know, your life at the everyday, at the life, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:21 to live that, at what, the time, the family that you are today, comprehend the impact or maybe
Starting point is 00:38:26 of the kind of the way to have to be in the house, to see, to watch that this consumption
Starting point is 00:38:33 as to you, your friends are going to consume with your father? Is that you, it's a pattern that you're
Starting point is 00:38:37 an idea to get to get to the look at what? You know, your life? I'm a
Starting point is 00:38:44 bit too I'm just a little, my mother, I'm done what, my father, I'm done a fuck out. In fact,
Starting point is 00:38:49 I'm just a ball, like, at the school, I've really very but when it
Starting point is 00:38:54 when it starts to be rape in fact, you know, I've been called to, the parents would not,
Starting point is 00:38:59 that the parents would not with me, at cause, and other, to my entry, in second-air
Starting point is 00:39:05 one, I, I'm made meaze at the school to the intimidation, when we on the
Starting point is 00:39:13 time, we're in there, we're in there, we're not, we're in a few
Starting point is 00:39:16 crotch, I'm out of the car, I'm, you know, I'm any,
Starting point is 00:39:19 any manner social, I mean, you know, I'm not with the people no more, you know, to the sense where I think
Starting point is 00:39:26 I'm always always been very very much, you know, but I'm really difficult to be very communicate,
Starting point is 00:39:32 I think, with the people and I'm mean, I'm there, there was a young girl, there,
Starting point is 00:39:39 I'm not, I'd like, and, you, it was, it's, it's like, the family that's popular,
Starting point is 00:39:47 to, you know, and, you, it's not gross, St. Marte, so, the guy that, you know, the guy who
Starting point is 00:39:51 menace the with the carabine, it's a call the town of the city, they're talking,
Starting point is 00:39:55 it's not, you know, and that's that, and that's that she's she's, she's,
Starting point is 00:40:01 but it's a lot of, every year, you know, and then I had a time, and then,
Starting point is 00:40:08 my father he's fashed, and he said, he said, there, you,
Starting point is 00:40:12 he's sack a lot, because that's not he's not that's you know, I'm not
Starting point is 00:40:16 a woman, you know, I'm the , you're the general of people, that if I'd be batted, I'd retone the coup, the,
Starting point is 00:40:20 the time that I'd probably to be mad to get to be so, but it's what I'm doing, I'm doing, because when I'm doing, when I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:40:27 well, I'm doing, at two, three episodes, but I was so I'm telling with some people, in fact, who were saying, who were doing,
Starting point is 00:40:37 their parents, it had these people violent, it had these people that were people absent, it's, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:40:42 I, I, I, I'm, like, embarked at the adolescence in this world, not but at the adolescence, I
Starting point is 00:40:48 really met the panoply of the people who had all the problematic a little bit about, you know, if the
Starting point is 00:40:54 young who are not they want to come to come to their own reason? Well, those who say,
Starting point is 00:41:00 they're so they're going to go, go, go, go, it's not great, that, it's a pattern,
Starting point is 00:41:05 so, so you're, so you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:41:07 you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, Well, you know, it's always in defense, because I never
Starting point is 00:41:13 I've never, but it's so, but rest that's that, you know, this foe, I'm like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:19 it's a creed a ride to bus to the young female, you know, and after that, I, I've,
Starting point is 00:41:26 I've got to my, I'm in secondar-1, then, then I, I've, I've, I've,
Starting point is 00:41:31 I've, and I said, my father would be anything to get to get to all the volley of the world
Starting point is 00:41:38 because I would not to go to and I had to say, and I'd have to a week
Starting point is 00:41:44 that's in an committee of that's I'm in I'm doing, I'm just a secondair two, I've
Starting point is 00:41:52 made a month, and I have some notes of fool, I had do 95% to 100%
Starting point is 00:41:58 to I'm sure, and I close that. You're probably a minute of me,
Starting point is 00:42:02 I'm going to listen to so, I'm so, so I'm so I'm more of time with my friends Tannan, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:09 it's a so, you know, I mean, I mean, I have done, you know, I had some I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:15 you know, I had three and 14 years, my son, he had 23, you know, we were in there, and
Starting point is 00:42:24 he'd be able to arrive, and then, he roched a bit, but in the time, he had been
Starting point is 00:42:28 there's too, he had been put the there's and I think it was probably it was panique,
Starting point is 00:42:33 you, I think it I'd say panicky because it's not that he wanted for us but it's not that they're there'd be no control, you know, your little friend has sued this pattern that also, I imagine that it would be the same thing, the people who are
Starting point is 00:42:45 the right to play with you to see you, it's, it's, the little freight of your friends who, you know, in fact, my, my, my, friend, it was like a, a pot of coll,
Starting point is 00:42:54 he would all the time to me see, so, so, so at a moment of I, you're obliged to be in an ambiance family like that, I can understand
Starting point is 00:43:01 that you can't that's a little, it's a structure, Yeah, but it's also because, you know, the night I'd go to my front of my family in cachette. So, like,
Starting point is 00:43:08 if I wanted to be stoole, it'd have I'd like to train, so, so, so, brief, he'd see if, had a good daughter. But, you know, after that, you,
Starting point is 00:43:17 he had done to the road of the way, you know, I, I think that I think, it'll be back to, but, you know, there's a lot of people that are
Starting point is 00:43:23 in, in, in these patterns like that, you'd have been other choice in my life, and I'd could continue to have a
Starting point is 00:43:32 life that's because, you know, I'm saying, it's a seem to be a lot of people who have saty in the middle of
Starting point is 00:43:39 but who's, but who's not your car, you're not here, because, you know, what I've seen much, in the case,
Starting point is 00:43:46 at least I, I'm not, I'm not , you're not , you're not , you're not down, you, don't,
Starting point is 00:43:53 it's the sense who, you know, young, 13, 14, 14, I, I, I was like the game of
Starting point is 00:44:02 the world all the time you know, but but I guess that I had and then
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm, I'm I'm I'm writing a lot I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm every day I'm every day I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:44:20 my pattern my reflections how and I and I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:44:24 I'm I'm so I'm really totally naive you could
Starting point is 00:44:29 me have to have to have to have been to the board, to the whole of the
Starting point is 00:44:33 world, I'm not a little bit of but I'm in but I'm think that I think I was have a great
Starting point is 00:44:40 resilience, you know, I'd write, I'd say, okay, my life is, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:44:47 it's, it's, it's, I'm a fact, my family, it's a ha'
Starting point is 00:44:52 not a lot of , and then, the land of the landmain, I'm, oh, but it's
Starting point is 00:44:57 both, the world, the I waso-chanted this morning, wow, it's so so that it's so
Starting point is 00:45:04 that I'm a little bit of personality, but I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm think I'm
Starting point is 00:45:11 with, that, this espose of resilience, that, to be able the beau, malgrary all the
Starting point is 00:45:18 the movey out, it was already there, and anched, and I think that that it
Starting point is 00:45:23 has brought all my life, to have this effort, of something of
Starting point is 00:45:27 to desire, me amelioring, to become a better person all the time. So, you, I've passed all sorts of of things.
Starting point is 00:45:36 We were, we were talking to my father. My father, there had one of his friends who had a dog, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:44 and there were plenty of young, the 17, 18, 19 years, he had some runn everywhere,
Starting point is 00:45:50 at two mountains, St. Mart, St. Osteach, name it, so. So, I, at 14
Starting point is 00:45:55 I was going to do the drug. And, you know, it's it, it's, it's, it's, it's, kind of logic, of the thing. And then,
Starting point is 00:46:08 I'm going to go there, but, you know, that's a person that, who had a man, you know, he'd have to get his
Starting point is 00:46:14 children, et cetera, and, you know, my father, he was really in confidence, you know, in fact, it was a
Starting point is 00:46:20 abuser of an abuser of an ex, so, so, so, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:46:22 like, reveighed at 14 years with a penis in the face, and I'm like, oh, and you know,
Starting point is 00:46:27 what's the worst there there? It's that you're at a stage that, in the case,
Starting point is 00:46:35 I've lived like, but also that you do you okay, it's been degeo,
Starting point is 00:46:41 and as you know, but it's like the boss dealer, and then, you're like flatted a
Starting point is 00:46:46 little bit but you you're 14 you, you don't, you understand not, you realize
Starting point is 00:46:51 not, you know, the guy, there's 40, 45, but it's that, so, so I'm living now in a world like that, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:59 it's my reality on the day, so, but I'm, I'm not all the same, I had
Starting point is 00:47:06 all my friends, that's like, that's, that, they'd be there, I've seen many,
Starting point is 00:47:11 at a grand coup of point on the houd of Chor, and all all of his friends, we're,
Starting point is 00:47:16 we're, we're, we're going, I guess. You know, it's for that I'm always just the grand line, because you know,
Starting point is 00:47:24 it's just, you know, it's these things that I'm not, and you know, the way I'm, and it's the way I'm in the way, it's the way,
Starting point is 00:47:31 but this young female, that, of 14 years, but, you know, you develop not a relation with this man, it's just,
Starting point is 00:47:39 he abuse to a, you know, I mean, I'm not to get to enter in the, you know, I'd say,
Starting point is 00:47:44 two, three three episodes, two, three episodes, of too, we'll say, and, But I wanted to I wanted to say
Starting point is 00:47:52 Because, you know, I'm not because because I'm not because I'm not because if my father he'd have been he'd have tried, I'd
Starting point is 00:48:00 not get in prison so I'm so I'd say And I'm I know And the guy he's just He'd be jealous
Starting point is 00:48:08 He'd say He'd say He'd be that I'd do that I'm And then my Puck up to My part he's
Starting point is 00:48:13 Couch country You see, No, it's Bain, no, it's Bain't my Gull, we're going to dole, we're going to dole-series. But it was that.
Starting point is 00:48:21 It was the world in which I lived, and my father was totally fragilized and affablied in his consumption and in his health mental that he had put in total, who had confidence in these people like that, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:35 more than his parents. You'd say, if you'd think he's a manipulator, to drug, if it's a murder, it's a murder, but he's more,
Starting point is 00:48:44 but he crore plus he than her own his own, that's why, well, that's it's a fact that's
Starting point is 00:48:50 it's I'm going to I'm going to I'm trying to my father I'm trying to I'm in my little
Starting point is 00:48:58 little bit more but I'm just like I would just he's just he creves and it's written for
Starting point is 00:49:05 word for and I see I read these things after and I'm oh, it's so
Starting point is 00:49:09 it's done so I'm because I'm my parents in 13, 14, 14, because, in
Starting point is 00:49:17 plus I was really mal-enguelly but but in the it's like who's who's
Starting point is 00:49:22 who's he's there's there's a there's a time. If he had to
Starting point is 00:49:29 this reflection that for him saying my family will be not there
Starting point is 00:49:33 you're a young rebel that you see that and you do you do with
Starting point is 00:49:39 what you with all with the other who you're very with the green in plain
Starting point is 00:49:42 face at 14 and all that's that's you can to understand. And honestly,
Starting point is 00:49:47 I prefer a adolescent who has a question. I'd like more that's more it would be
Starting point is 00:49:54 simple if I would be able to me, I'm sure, but it's so. And, and, you, we're going
Starting point is 00:50:01 here to but, you, the suicide, in my family, it's really, they've made an
Starting point is 00:50:07 study university on my family, because that all the world all over
Starting point is 00:50:11 the life, so, so I've really of the grand chance genetic, let's on,
Starting point is 00:50:17 to have this desire, to part, you know, and again once, I say, I say,
Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm always I'm always, you know, but the life has made all the fog and the chien
Starting point is 00:50:29 that would just be fashed and say, hey, it's not in, what you did,
Starting point is 00:50:35 what you did a swan, to say, ah, and the land of the last to say, I've heard
Starting point is 00:50:41 a, I've heard a news, it's a It's a force, and, you know, I was to say, it's not in the gene, you know, with something, you know, we're trying, you can take the eight
Starting point is 00:50:50 children of their own family, and the eight will have their, there's a lot that's going to be more, but, you know, it's not in your DNA, you know, certain nests with, why there are who
Starting point is 00:51:00 have some of, because there are that people who live not a lot, who have some people who live, that's, that you've been, I've had, but I, I'm,
Starting point is 00:51:07 but I, you know, but I, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you're, you, what, you, what, you, you're just, I think I'd
Starting point is 00:51:13 be in a focet, you know, you know what I'm, so so, so much human. Yeah, but I think that there's still, you know, that's sure, that's sure. Listen, I'm I mean concretely
Starting point is 00:51:25 of a moment, you know, before my father deced, where what's that, you know, I say, I, you know, I'll roll a vehicle on the piece cyclable, and I'm really
Starting point is 00:51:35 said, I'm going to me batire, my proper philosophy of life, and, I, I choose that today, I think the world is beau.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And I'd say, that's probably that, this decision, that, pries with me at that that that's
Starting point is 00:51:52 that you've put to the rest of my life, and, you know, you'd say, you'd say, I think that one of my
Starting point is 00:51:58 more great force is to look to anybody, and to be able to see the person that
Starting point is 00:52:03 in the back of all the crass, you know, it's really that, so, so,
Starting point is 00:52:07 but, but, one, it's very beautiful to have these reflections and to be to get this today.
Starting point is 00:52:15 No, no, it's so. And I think that's, I think we're too, in a generation of judgment,
Starting point is 00:52:22 and it's, you know, I mean, it's the reason number one of this podcast that at the base,
Starting point is 00:52:27 if, just, I wanted the judgments and the stigma, it's so, the base, it's,
Starting point is 00:52:33 it's all right, it's, it's all right, it's all to touch a plent, but at the base, it was that, you know, and I'm
Starting point is 00:52:39 the first one, that's a lot of course of my change, I'm changing, you know, to find a job, you know, to find a job, but we're
Starting point is 00:52:48 that, what, what, what's, the fun of the life, and what I think, we've been , we know,
Starting point is 00:52:53 that, but, that, me, where I've started to at the end,
Starting point is 00:52:58 30, in the, early, you, you, you've been so, so,
Starting point is 00:53:01 so, it was, you know, you, you, I'm already young. It's when? At what age?
Starting point is 00:53:13 The famous event. The famous event. Because, there, you could the affair of the epa, and you said, you know, we're saying, we're saying, we're, we're going to pray
Starting point is 00:53:23 three hours just an event where your father had started at carabine and he's si, and he's tilted for after that to be to be to pleurray
Starting point is 00:53:28 in an excuseing. I think that you could, we'd comprehend the personage. It's just that there's a an event
Starting point is 00:53:35 that's an very very, that's very, I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 00:53:41 say, the day I'm I'm in my I'm at what age? 14
Starting point is 00:53:48 14 years. 14 14 We're on 8 July okay, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:55 yeah, the we're not a lot of the year today today, I'm
Starting point is 00:53:59 like, I'm like, we're we're turning the 8 July 20,
Starting point is 00:54:03 226, okay, we're It's not planned. It's a... It's a lot of. It's a lot of. But I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:54:09 on coming and I'm coming. I said, oh, my Godon. But, but, you know, it's that, in the phone, the day of the event, I'm going to go
Starting point is 00:54:17 my family, I'm going to see my my family, I'm going to chill, I'll come the morning, I'm up, my mother
Starting point is 00:54:22 has, uh, my hair, and all my gannet, you know, and then, she, and then,
Starting point is 00:54:29 in the fact, it's not complicated, my father, he has I'd have tried to irasches the eyes during the
Starting point is 00:54:36 night. And then I'm in view, because I'm not there. You know, I've not put put
Starting point is 00:54:39 to protect my mother. You know, I've been heard of that's so, so,
Starting point is 00:54:44 so, so, so, so, so, so, I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:54:47 I'm, I'm not, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get the the same Mr. Tanto.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh, Mr. Grin'en-in- -office? Exactly, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:54:58 so, I'm, I'm going and all that. And then, in fact, I'm
Starting point is 00:55:04 the night, I'm in my head, okay, that's suffice.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I'm 14 years, but it's not right that I have, I'm going to have
Starting point is 00:55:15 a fear of and the realization to me say, I'm more
Starting point is 00:55:20 to die, so that can't that can't that, I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:55:24 in front, I'm there, and there it's it's, I'm more capable,
Starting point is 00:55:31 you have to that's a minute. So, so I'm going to my father, who is not
Starting point is 00:55:36 even more too advanced in his consumption. Just, excuse me, I'm going, you're 14,
Starting point is 00:55:42 your brother is there also that's 12? That's your at the house? My
Starting point is 00:55:47 mother is always at the house, if there's not over work. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So, so, so, so, so, so, so, I said, you, the respect
Starting point is 00:56:00 to our respect to to us, it's a super important. So, you there's not people who have been
Starting point is 00:56:03 to be able to people, everyone, and it was respectful of the parents and all. I imagine
Starting point is 00:56:09 that he when he had been in there. Exactly. But, I,
Starting point is 00:56:12 I pete my coche, I, I'm trying to do the, of all the possible,
Starting point is 00:56:19 and I'm, you've seen, what you have you done, you know, to make, is that you
Starting point is 00:56:24 do you do you deuce? And, I, I, I, Fashe.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Faf, brief, we close the night like that my father he pleur, he pleur,
Starting point is 00:56:35 he's in a morso, and I'm just like, limit, content, because I've
Starting point is 00:56:40 passed all my points, and I have made, and I'm like, I feel that he
Starting point is 00:56:45 realize, because we can't be so, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:56:48 so, we're so the land the night I'm my last, my father, my
Starting point is 00:56:53 my son, my he is we have not air climatized. I don't know if it existed in that time that, you know, I'm a cult. Well, I confirmed
Starting point is 00:57:03 that yes, it's a little bit to get into the same. But, but it's like a sofa. It's like a grand cell
Starting point is 00:57:10 familial, with a bar, a sofa, with it's some of the bibliotheque, etc., and he is
Starting point is 00:57:17 cuched, the bra in crore. And I'm there I'm a feeling, but, you know, a feeling,
Starting point is 00:57:25 I mean, there, there, there, there's to be going to be going to be something, there's something that that's a feeling,
Starting point is 00:57:30 an intuition that's a feeling, a intuition, that when I arrive, she's the famous man, I'm going to, I'm saying, and I said,
Starting point is 00:57:42 I said, there, he will be going to be something, I, I understand that's not logic, but you've got to come to get to
Starting point is 00:57:48 the work, you know, you know, he's, you know, his family is a little tanned, the drama human,
Starting point is 00:57:56 who entombed my father, and then, and then, and then, you know, you're not to make a lot of that, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:00 so he said, well, I'm not going to go to do you know, my family blah, blah, blah, blah. So,
Starting point is 00:58:05 that, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm trying to, but, you know, but, you know, I don't know to take
Starting point is 00:58:13 someone, and to let's get to be going to be something, yeah, no, no,
Starting point is 00:58:17 no, there's a a little bit of your part, normally, more, it's a little
Starting point is 00:58:23 , And, et cetera, and I call the policiers, hey, I'm at the boot, you know, when you're called the police,
Starting point is 00:58:31 you know, when you're the type of life that's because you're run to do, I, like, I'm doing there, there,
Starting point is 00:58:37 he's going to get to get to something, it's certain. And then the police say, yeah, but you know,
Starting point is 00:58:43 that's a matter, it's a point, but how you want, that's sort of the house to get to the
Starting point is 00:58:50 question, to my father? I'm going to where? Because my My mother, she could not just to start like that
Starting point is 00:58:58 to get to make it it's justify it's so that at the end I'm in my own
Starting point is 00:59:04 I'm in the same all the night, I'm going to be able to be in then in
Starting point is 00:59:11 night it's it's all all it's my my
Starting point is 00:59:17 my part, he's it's it's it's it's he rush
Starting point is 00:59:22 his life and then he's sure I'm to do you have to make a lot, and there's what
Starting point is 00:59:27 that's not, and it's it's a cry in up, and all I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:59:29 I'm, I'm, I'm on and I'm, he's in the thing, he's, he's, he says, okay,
Starting point is 00:59:35 you know, he's got to come to find my mother, you know, and come they're trying, because there have a
Starting point is 00:59:43 fear of their to make a , you know, and, listen, my uncle, in the , in the font
Starting point is 00:59:48 couldn't, because my uncle, he had too to bring the volent, you know, so,
Starting point is 00:59:53 So, my... But your father had kind of... You know, we're saying, when he was in I'm... You know, I said, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:59 it said when he's in psychose, it's doing to do with, he said, he'd in alarm, he's in pleur. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:00:05 I'm not, I'd say that. And we'd say, he said, he'd say, he'd say, there, there was...
Starting point is 01:00:11 Oh, yeah, I'm the impression, I'd have been the impression, I'm could be able to after, you know, that, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:00:18 there's like, a, an... An elan, an illuminate, I don't know how to it's a moment of lucidity,
Starting point is 01:00:26 it's what I'm sure I'm going to I'm going to make like exactly, exactly and then, then I'm like, okay
Starting point is 01:00:32 I'm going to call the police I can't go to you know, the kids are probably in danger and etc., and
Starting point is 01:00:39 my friend is really instable, so he appell the police so that the police
Starting point is 01:00:44 call the policeiers call the and then then it's my mom that's my mom
Starting point is 01:00:49 he is at coat and he can't all what the people what the So, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:00:53 so, so, so, is that you're in security, are you can't you play,
Starting point is 01:00:58 blah, blah, you know, so, so, so, so, so, my father,
Starting point is 01:01:02 rackroche the line, and there, it's a part in vry, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:09 the sense, where, there, put, the field everywhere in the escaliers,
Starting point is 01:01:14 because that, in the fact, he wants to, so, so,
Starting point is 01:01:19 he would be surprised, We're surprised. We're me and my my mother in the sub-soul. Guard my frere with
Starting point is 01:01:24 him on up. In the fond, make the chien to get the chien
Starting point is 01:01:29 can get jappe if they come to the police and then we're in the time,
Starting point is 01:01:44 he's going to go to, my brother ramped for change, The music. And then my frere,
Starting point is 01:01:51 he's to get to get on the plan to and he come to he's
Starting point is 01:01:55 he's he's a carabene, literally, we're in a prison detain, we're in
Starting point is 01:02:01 prison of and it's and it there's a there's a there's a thing, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:07 he wanted not to go in prison if he repugned a so he repugned
Starting point is 01:02:11 to get to be and he he'd person be but the police has had been
Starting point is 01:02:16 an element of the that's that's that's that's psychologist, but it's had to do it
Starting point is 01:02:21 have to be to be in prison. I don't know to do you. Exactly. It was impossible for him to do you do.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It was a honor for him to do you do that's an impossible. But the peace is that he had not
Starting point is 01:02:32 too long. No. Before this call that of the police I think it has changed today because
Starting point is 01:02:40 I think there's an adult of 14 a 14-year that's called the police today like my wife
Starting point is 01:02:45 my mother in the night, he will see something, I'm really I'm afraid. I think
Starting point is 01:02:50 don't know if you're going to do you think that's I think that I'm a little on a few of course today. But he'd
Starting point is 01:02:59 to get an minute you go, it's a minimum to get a little bit of a yeah, but if the person doesn't have
Starting point is 01:03:04 not plenty? Yeah, but we're saying if, you have been pretty that you know there'd be able to the monsieur
Starting point is 01:03:10 there's not there not top at the same I'm not I'm not, I'm I'm not, you're not
Starting point is 01:03:16 but, you're came when we're coming often to have never seen my father, it's not like
Starting point is 01:03:22 if they're going to be in your own to see you, you're still a call to make sure, you're
Starting point is 01:03:26 like, but I'm just like, no, I'm in a mann I'm in the case, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:03:30 I'm not, I'm just that I'm just that I have few douty, you know, legally,
Starting point is 01:03:37 there's a there's few of things that can't do you for, in the phone, sort of
Starting point is 01:03:41 sort of a family, and the situation like that, if the woman after,
Starting point is 01:03:45 So it's, it's these situations complicated, and I think that's the it's more before you know, I think
Starting point is 01:03:52 with the quantity of the time there's many there's many things. I've got a I've seen who's a
Starting point is 01:03:59 very often in the parliament and very with the people because they're trying to try to try to to change the
Starting point is 01:04:05 things. Yeah, so, so I'm, and I'm, because I'm in the course, I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:04:10 but I'm trying to be associy with her for, in the meeting in a I would have gone with that,
Starting point is 01:04:16 but for, just, for making the things, and all right, we're going to so, so, we're in a climate of,
Starting point is 01:04:24 of terror, you're other? We have my father, who is saty with a carabine, cached by the sofa,
Starting point is 01:04:31 who surveil the two entrue, my little frere, who goes to get to do the changement
Starting point is 01:04:35 to get with my pair, who is completely disjointed. I'm in the sous-selle with my
Starting point is 01:04:41 that my mother who panicked that's not capable to be barry the bra, she's she's in the whole people in their own to get a lot of
Starting point is 01:04:51 she's not, she's that, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, my father, you know, down to chadierre,
Starting point is 01:04:55 if you have to run, you, see, we're there, and, then, I'm, then I'm, and I'm in round, and I, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:02 14-year, I'm impulsive, and I've been to say, the day, that I, I'm no fear to worry,
Starting point is 01:05:06 I'm not, I'm not, I, just the, so, So I decide that I'm on. And that I pass at the travel
Starting point is 01:05:13 the 20,000 fill of the car in the escalier. So, naturally, my father my aunt my time so I'm
Starting point is 01:05:18 going to be in a carabine in the gorge, you know, and then it becomes emotive. But, but it's my
Starting point is 01:05:29 little friend who has two years who's interposed. It's the time to take a gorge of a little of the old.
Starting point is 01:05:49 There's not to try with that, to take a time. And, you know, this episode that
Starting point is 01:05:59 it's not, you know, I'm it's not, but not because my father,
Starting point is 01:06:13 it's going to pass but because you know, I'm saying, but I love my brother.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So, brief, this night, my, my, my, my,
Starting point is 01:06:32 my friend, my, my my friend, my he had retired,
Starting point is 01:06:37 he, he said, even I I think it was who who was in front of him to be in front of him. You know,
Starting point is 01:06:41 it's just the cord, they, you know, it's a human to abat, that's not
Starting point is 01:06:47 his thing. And, you know, I want to to say, that, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:51 my brother, at over all these years, he was he was a
Starting point is 01:06:57 fear, you know, he was a lot, and I was, I was always the
Starting point is 01:07:03 he'd My father, he'd dormed with a gun on top of his arraillard, at all the case where I would pass around the night, because he had a fear that I'd try to let's see. It's so that it's so, you know, so. So, let's don't know if I'd not have a bit of pee-pil the night, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:18 But, you know, this time, you know, my little frere, who had really terrible, he was positioned between my father, the fusie, and me, you know, and it's he, he's been,
Starting point is 01:07:32 Hey, it's Priscilla, go, there's a revelle, you know. And you know, it's like, it's like made end at the episode because, like, my, my father has
Starting point is 01:07:42 seized, and then he said, but what's it what I'm trying to do you know, what's the kind of, like,
Starting point is 01:07:51 every event, but it's just that it has pushed more way. Yeah, so, so,
Starting point is 01:07:54 that, he has made on my mother, and then, he said, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:59 the gang, you'll get at about 5 o'clock of the morning. We've got passed the night to control.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Is the police is present? Is there you a question? There's a minute?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Well, at the point of my father had rackroached, the police are coming
Starting point is 01:08:14 who they were barricaded so, so there, perimette of security, they've made evacue
Starting point is 01:08:17 people, you know, we're all, when we're out of there, there there had a troupement
Starting point is 01:08:23 there, there, there was there, but you're going to be able to be in security
Starting point is 01:08:28 and clack the line afirm, you're okay, Now, it's an light, that's
Starting point is 01:08:34 that's a lot, exactly, so, so, I'm I'm still, I'm still, my father
Starting point is 01:08:38 we're doing, my father and he's in the door, he's in the card of , he's
Starting point is 01:08:46 , I'm sorry to all the all of all the and I'm so, and I'm so much
Starting point is 01:08:51 in color, that, I can't even be he'd like, no, no,
Starting point is 01:08:56 I'm just like, oh, yeah, you're sorry, you, In the corner, I'm just like, I want to be to eat, you know, it's not a part. So, we're going to see.
Starting point is 01:09:06 We're going to descend, we march, there's, you know, there's person who comes to see. We march, I'd say, a coin of a minute, before an arrival to police, there. Okay, they're a perimeter,
Starting point is 01:09:18 but he's a long, the perimeter. He's not a long, the perimite, okay, so, so, we're, so, we're, and I'm sure, that the policeier me regard, and me say, is you, you're you
Starting point is 01:09:27 who who he had called? And then, I mean, I've got been polied. Like, I've been rinsed, but rinsed, you know, because it's like, I've got to tell you to tell you to it, you know. So, brief, we've got to be able to post of police. Well, I mean, we've said, we're past, it's almost the day that, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:49 after that, I've read, at gosh, at right, in the journal, because, you know, we're not, since we're, we're not, we're, we're, we're, you know, but, you know, But, you know, I've seen in the journals who have tried to contacte, who have tried to do talk, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:10:00 but, you know, finally, my father, the prison, it was not possible, so he's to try a ball, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:06 and it's finished there. So, so. The option Catana, let's don't, let's go,
Starting point is 01:10:12 it's more to, you know, in the same time, you know, you know, by all the people with who I met with who
Starting point is 01:10:18 I, you know, there's a, there's a person has made that same and that's It's been And that's
Starting point is 01:10:25 And that the person has stayed living, but with a true in the middle of the face.
Starting point is 01:10:31 So I'm quite content that my father that's not that's not just to add just to add
Starting point is 01:10:37 more of drama, but it's so. A, one of a lot of he's not capable
Starting point is 01:10:43 to live with what he comes to live. But no, because my
Starting point is 01:10:47 person. For the one. One one, but that. But,
Starting point is 01:10:50 yeah, he's too to be so your problem or what he did you have made,
Starting point is 01:10:56 but you can't not the kind of people who are I think, I think it's not that's not that that's not my father,
Starting point is 01:11:04 you know, my person, you know, he's a thing that's a good, and what he was he said, what,
Starting point is 01:11:09 it was a question, and, you know, there was a there was kind of there were there, you know, there are the
Starting point is 01:11:14 people who there's not, you know, you know, to give you to, to understand, to understand
Starting point is 01:11:20 what, met, who are not so, my father, he had these values, they knew, he knew, but he had not to control
Starting point is 01:11:27 on what's what he'd not to get to get his consumption, not his mental, you know, so.
Starting point is 01:11:34 A situation like that, we don't know the page in two days? No. You know,
Starting point is 01:11:42 you're going, it's what, your mother, your, your friend, I mean, we're going
Starting point is 01:11:49 in the house where all, it's, You know, you seem, what I've seen, what I've heard, a mother who's not, to take the reigning,
Starting point is 01:11:59 and, you know, to be able to get a job, or, you know, it's a total liberty, it's a transform, you know, you know, you've, you know, what? Your family , it's what?
Starting point is 01:12:08 Well, you know, , we're pretty, we're pretty, in charge a little by the family, to, you know, when I said, when the family
Starting point is 01:12:16 had, you said, at a time, that, exactly, so, you, at the first, we're at my name, we're a little baruette
Starting point is 01:12:23 at the left, and right, we're at a little to be able to live at a time at a certain time, that we know that,
Starting point is 01:12:30 we know that in a milieu in a little relatively easy, we don't have not any super good aptitude, let's see.
Starting point is 01:12:38 But, but it's that, for a certain time, it's that, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:43 rest that when you're when you're doing for Post-Canada, you're kind of my own my father, he has
Starting point is 01:12:49 attended before to to do the murder because it had to make a change
Starting point is 01:12:54 of the name. I don't if you do you see that a moment of a moment of
Starting point is 01:13:00 a year, they've started to not consider the name the non-the-
Starting point is 01:13:06 parenthes on the batiteer. The two- name. Exactly. But,
Starting point is 01:13:12 I'm my father had always functioned with the name under-
Starting point is 01:13:15 parenthase and so these studies, his card of surveillance, all,
Starting point is 01:13:19 everything, it's made to that's a new now, and there now it's a lot of
Starting point is 01:13:24 that they're not a fact, if ever, in the phone, the name didn't
Starting point is 01:13:29 not the name, so, so he had attended to do his changement
Starting point is 01:13:35 of the and he attended his papiers, and it had a
Starting point is 01:13:38 one for, in the final, finish these projects, but I'll
Starting point is 01:13:46 But, you know, it's like the proof that there's, you know, there's there's a big episode of lucidity, you know, I mean, you know, it's a person lucid, but who's, you know, that's a psychosis in repetition, linked to the trauma and at the consumption. Because, you know, I mean, is it, you know, if there, these events like this, it's not a day to try to try to have to do with you or tell.
Starting point is 01:14:12 No, but, you know, I'd say, it would be a lot of, you could probably, or two two weeks, something like that, it's a quite quite it's quite,
Starting point is 01:14:19 but in the same time I said, my father had had a anti-depresser and I see not if you're in
Starting point is 01:14:26 these years, there's been a great recourse collective by a anti-depresser in the fond,
Starting point is 01:14:32 who seemed it would it augmentate the risks of suicide? And my father, in fact,
Starting point is 01:14:37 it's that's that anti-depresser that he had there was a there's a there's a
Starting point is 01:14:43 It's no, it's how he has tried, to see to get, to get, the poor that would be not top.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It wasn't not. And he, he said, not the other other side, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And the, you know, other, you know, the, the young female of 14, who is rebel,
Starting point is 01:15:05 who is here, who is that, you know, you say, you're not to say, you're, you're,
Starting point is 01:15:11 you're bar-dacced, you're, you're in Christ, like your father, but there, he's kind of to be in
Starting point is 01:15:16 the life, yeah. Yeah. For you, you live like a sullagement? You,
Starting point is 01:15:22 you know, you know, it's a pain also, I imagine. You know, it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:28 it's, you know, to be the other on your emotions? I'd say, I don't, I think not
Starting point is 01:15:31 that I've had been, I think that, yes, I've been put, but I think
Starting point is 01:15:35 that after I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, , you know,
Starting point is 01:15:40 I've been on me to take care of my family, you know, of my mother and my mother and
Starting point is 01:15:47 my friend at the time. And then, you know, we're going to get, you know, we're going to
Starting point is 01:15:56 get to my grandma who had a little little more hazee. The assurances are arrived, we've
Starting point is 01:16:00 had been a lot of money, a lot of money that's relatively very
Starting point is 01:16:03 very bit, but, you know, a new new new milieu, etc.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I, I'm return to the school. You know, I've been said, we said I'd say, I lost the first month of second
Starting point is 01:16:15 to work in two, I passed my examines at the end of the year, and I had all right to get to get to get,
Starting point is 01:16:23 I've even not made a year, you know, the life has repried his course, we have had
Starting point is 01:16:27 got our different of our difficulties, you know, but, but, grossomodo, I think,
Starting point is 01:16:32 you know, I've used to get to my color, because it's been beau, but you don't
Starting point is 01:16:38 not to be fashed because all of a coup, the cause of your color has disappeared, it's an emotion that's a question that's
Starting point is 01:16:45 I'm trying to get a lot of that I'm in that's a lot of, and I was really risked to do have some when I'm
Starting point is 01:16:53 far sure, on the I'm not to control, that's, with the that's what's that's what you're
Starting point is 01:16:59 doing, so I've tried there's during there for years and and I'm and I'm
Starting point is 01:17:03 I'm saying, I can say, I can say that I'm control, but it's been long, it's been a long chame, a minute. So if if someone is
Starting point is 01:17:12 someone to cut in chard and you're going to show, is it's too dangerous? No, I'm just in the amor. I'm like, perhaps he
Starting point is 01:17:18 has not seen, perhaps, you know, it's not me that's been clacksone. I'm just in the denie,
Starting point is 01:17:23 finally, you know, no, no, it's so, but I'm just to do the tools for to act to actually
Starting point is 01:17:29 for put in this color that, you know, but long time I've dought, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 01:17:34 I said, I, I'm going to be in the folly like my my father, you know, you know, you know, you're 14, you're going to return at the school,
Starting point is 01:17:45 you know, to start in a life, but you have you become a young woman, you know, you know, how, your life evolved,
Starting point is 01:17:54 how, you know, your vision of the home evolved with one of what you have lived with an old with having a
Starting point is 01:18:01 father like that, you're, you a few not, you not the contrary, I'd say that I think there's no nothing that's in fact,
Starting point is 01:18:09 with the time, you know, I've already, at 19-year, I've had already a child. Okay. So, I've got four. And then, no, more four. Okay, so I've got to say, too. I'm not, again, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I'm not, no, no, no, that's, okay. No, no, no, that's, okay. Well, I'm, I'm I'm going to I'm sure that in my life, I'm sure that's because we're
Starting point is 01:18:32 talking about, let's on, my children, but in the time, I'm two who have got a bacteria resistant to antibiotics
Starting point is 01:18:38 and they've rased to die, I've got one who's got in the coma that he'd not supposed to be able,
Starting point is 01:18:44 and at all the foe, he'd he's all without sequels. I'd you'd say,
Starting point is 01:18:51 you know, I think, I think, I think, I think, We can choose, when I was saying, the bonner, it's a choice. But in my perception of the world,
Starting point is 01:19:00 I've been with a snout, I'm long like the bra, but in this, in all this, all the time, I'm all sorts of, my children's on sort. And today,
Starting point is 01:19:15 I'm like a troupeau of an infant, super-rereure, I'm grandmama, today, it's even not the bonse. You know, I've had some
Starting point is 01:19:23 an infant fantastic. My life is beautiful, it's I mean, I do you know, I do, I,
Starting point is 01:19:31 I'm in the life. But, it's what I mean, because you had, you had
Starting point is 01:19:38 all the cards in hand for to descend at the bottom, you know, you're not
Starting point is 01:19:44 down to and you me said, well, but you know, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:48 I've had there's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:19:51 it's, it's, it's, I don't, you know, and I'm not, but, you know, in the sense that the life you're pushing to say, hey, okay, I'm going to come in a bottle, because it will be much easier my
Starting point is 01:20:02 life, if I'm not too, and I'm disconnect, you know, but you've made, like you said, these choices, because, you know, a minute, people say, yeah, the alcoholist, it's true that's a disease, but, you know, if all the disease, so-in, in the sense that, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:16 if you do, you do you feel the choice, to get the choice, you know, you know, you're doing, you know, And you've made the choice to, I've got to me back, and to see, I'm going to see, I think
Starting point is 01:20:26 that's what you're going to be able to to say, but I'm going to say, I'm going to be able to I'm going to I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:33 I'd say, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm going to say, I was,
Starting point is 01:20:39 I was like, I had this capacity there also to me merveighy and over all the little things
Starting point is 01:20:46 of the planet, you know, so, so, that, I think, that it's a a kiddo of the
Starting point is 01:20:50 life. You know, I'm not developed with it's coming, it's an thing, I'm
Starting point is 01:20:54 can't be able to it's a person 100% authentic who, a little
Starting point is 01:21:01 too, a little too, sometimes, we're doing, but, you know, that I had to be
Starting point is 01:21:07 at the time, so, so, so, I'd have been a
Starting point is 01:21:10 because I had put a what's all that's that was also, to be able
Starting point is 01:21:15 to be to be the opportunity to do of other choice. So, so I'm
Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm going to my work in my time in the whole of the way, let's say, but I'm going
Starting point is 01:21:26 to do you but there's any of the day, there's a there's a more of choice than I
Starting point is 01:21:32 no, no that's it's not a question, it's just in the sense that you know,
Starting point is 01:21:36 you said, you know, there's a there's there's a there's a there's a people who it's
Starting point is 01:21:42 I do I do so much I've been not have you've been in the case that I've got to see, I mean,
Starting point is 01:21:49 I'm going to not the time but you say, you know, I was rebeye, I had a grandin in the face and we're
Starting point is 01:21:54 not going to get to be going to be more than that more than you and to be able to people, you know, I mean, it's
Starting point is 01:22:02 sure that when you, you start with more of the strikes that are more violent, you but it's
Starting point is 01:22:08 that, but 95% of people that I received because they're made, they've made some of
Starting point is 01:22:14 they're doing, So for that, for me, it's important that the people that people are, that it's important, that it's not that's important, that's to be inspired by these people who'd say, compared to her, I've been to have been a lot more, and I think I'm able to fonse me also and to find my choice. For me, I'm important.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Now, I'll make a pause on you because I want to talk about what you do with what you do with what you've ever-liqued, that's what I've ever-interested, but I want to to take also the newvelle of the little
Starting point is 01:22:48 guy who had 12 years if you're at a laise and if he is at least we'll nomor not whatever
Starting point is 01:22:55 but just just to know how he also he also he was used that he was a and you
Starting point is 01:23:00 did also he was he was more young and he was perhaps more fonseer
Starting point is 01:23:03 than you well I'm you know I'd you'd I've we've
Starting point is 01:23:09 every every our life a my and my and my
Starting point is 01:23:12 my and my brother, we seem of love, but, you, we see, we know, we know
Starting point is 01:23:16 one's one of two, three years, you know, and it's correct, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:23:22 we've got our cellul familial, and you also, you also, you've had had been,
Starting point is 01:23:29 super tanant, they're wonderful, but they're there, and they're a lot of
Starting point is 01:23:36 their tent. Oh, my God. But my my God. But my friend also, I think I think that he had in it
Starting point is 01:23:41 more young also, you know, but you know, I mean, I thought, I thought, I thought that, I thought that,
Starting point is 01:23:48 I thought that, I think, let's go, let's see, five, six years, I'd have regarded, I'd have said,
Starting point is 01:23:56 hey, oh, we're , we're , we're going to talk to that, we're doing to see,
Starting point is 01:24:01 we're doing, and, you know, in the last years, and I'll not, in the detail,
Starting point is 01:24:07 because it's, the, the, personal, you know, of my brother, but, you know, he has encountered different of the few, and there's things that are
Starting point is 01:24:14 remounted, and, you know, there's been there's been in time, you, but it's a batten, and, you know, that's, it's a lot
Starting point is 01:24:24 much more, but you know, I mean, you know, what I've been to, you, after, we're returned to the house, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:33 we're returning in this house, I'm, I'm not there, I'm not, you know, we see, when we see, when we see a drama like that,
Starting point is 01:24:40 we know that, we know that, you know, he ramace the car but he'd notews the rest. So, you know, when they're when they're in the house,
Starting point is 01:24:48 my mother and my friend, well, my brother, he has made the feet at the point of a old old
Starting point is 01:24:53 a moment of an end, you say, boyon, you, so it's, so it's, it's mark,
Starting point is 01:24:59 and, and, the whole of years, he had used to do this to have had to do you,
Starting point is 01:25:03 he's really fantastic, there's not developed these on the issues of consumption. He is not to cross. He's not allowed to cross. He's not allowed to do that
Starting point is 01:25:13 I'm really proud of the person who is there's been, but he has used these difficulties because there are some people that are remounted, between time, and they've been not been easy to live, so. So, I'm not going to go not, because it said it was 14 years,
Starting point is 01:25:26 you'd say, it was 14 years, but justly, your mother, this woman, that was a little effaced in the omens of your father, in the power of your father, who He was not so present, is there a a major relation at this moment that that's developed
Starting point is 01:25:41 between the two? Is it becomes more a mother? Or is it affecting to her also, you know, I mean, she's, it's a dream that she, she? She's on sort?
Starting point is 01:25:53 How do you know, I want to tell that after the moment when my father, he is decided, me and my friend on she's elevated all. Okay. Because, in the fact,
Starting point is 01:26:02 my mother a friend of my father, who had been... A bad friend? Who has been accused of violence, who he has entered five years in prison. So, all these moments, in the phone, she went to be in prison. And, I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 01:26:20 when he was out of course, there's been, it had to be made that we face some choice. We could be, we could be in contact, in fact, with my mother because, in the front,
Starting point is 01:26:30 she did, she said, So, at the end, today, it's because, you know, when you come from a milieu a little to croche, in fact, it's a lot of time, before you can't tell, okay, all right, all right, because the people around
Starting point is 01:26:54 you're clabuss. You know, I would say, the mird, it would be, but it's clabuss, you know. So, in the phone, my mother, she, in these choice of life, is to go with a person who was really
Starting point is 01:27:06 who was not a good person who is still not even not a good person and she has made the choice to rest with
Starting point is 01:27:15 this person there on the way of to be with his children and for us it was a
Starting point is 01:27:20 non-categor we could not be associated to that for protect our life our and our
Starting point is 01:27:26 and our and our and our and our exactly so I you'd say I'd say
Starting point is 01:27:32 that's She's four years today, my mother, she's, my mother, she's, my mother,
Starting point is 01:27:36 and I'm going to , and I'm not over not, you know, I'm not much farce, I'm not more much more,
Starting point is 01:27:42 I'm actually, I'm really in the serenity face at this story, because I think that in the life,
Starting point is 01:27:48 we've got a bit of our crore, and we're trying to do you know, and then sometimes this
Starting point is 01:27:54 new, there's a bit, it's not quite, it's not, and it's made, and I'm,
Starting point is 01:27:58 I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm be the whole the bonner of the world, you know, but I know
Starting point is 01:28:03 that at a moment a moment of a moment of a moment of a moment of course, but I'm trying to be there. But my
Starting point is 01:28:12 brother has made the same choice. I'll ask the question because it's, and I'm with a
Starting point is 01:28:19 fierty, this podcast that has approached a lot of people who got to get to
Starting point is 01:28:24 for different reasons, you know, and is if she she, if she she, if she,
Starting point is 01:28:28 she's She's still with this statement. She's still, if she preant, she has been, she's a decision of, is it too too far? Is it's a way of non-retour? Is it a way
Starting point is 01:28:38 an open to do? If she has, she read it so, if she'll, she'll listen, and that she's, is it? Well, I'd tell her that's a
Starting point is 01:28:47 good question. I think that, I don't know. I don't don't, sincerely, because in fact, it's like
Starting point is 01:28:56 if we were had become disinconnue. You know, my mother, on the day, I'm a man,
Starting point is 01:29:03 you know, I'm able to my own own, I've been built my life all so on
Starting point is 01:29:12 when you're a parent who's usually your parents will be your can't
Starting point is 01:29:18 be there when you go have there when you have been there I'm
Starting point is 01:29:22 all over I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm backed a family
Starting point is 01:29:25 I'm I'm I'm I'm exceptional. You know, he rests, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:31 a little of family, very poor to do you know, because they're pretty all dead,
Starting point is 01:29:36 you know, the family to my mother, reving a little, because they are partied
Starting point is 01:29:42 with my mother when we're on the time, so, you know, they're
Starting point is 01:29:46 coming a little, we're, we're in some, we're, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:52 it's, it's, it's, because I'm built all, you know, so I
Starting point is 01:29:58 would say that the sole reason for I'd say yes, I'd say just because I'm not
Starting point is 01:30:05 want to be that my mother, she's that's in a great situation of poverty
Starting point is 01:30:12 a little crotch, in a emmy crasseo, you know, I'm not of that
Starting point is 01:30:16 for my mother, because I repeat, it's a good person who makes a bad
Starting point is 01:30:22 choice. Moved choice. And, in a lot, choice is a word that we've used a word that's you know, you know, you're just saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:31 I'm just over, and justly, and in the life, you know, to find some there's ways, and then make some people
Starting point is 01:30:37 to go to go to to have to get someone who's, to make a marriage in their life,
Starting point is 01:30:44 that's not that's that's not, that's not, that's, that's sure that I'm to turn to
Starting point is 01:30:49 always in your country where it's that's important, to make the choice, it's important, It's extremely
Starting point is 01:30:56 hard to do with doing to do do it, yeah, but I'm going to want to get to be in your own
Starting point is 01:31:01 but you know, it's because you know, it's just things that's that's not, I'm going to ask you,
Starting point is 01:31:06 I'm going to let's go, I'm going to have seen, I've got to have seen that, and you said,
Starting point is 01:31:11 I've got to nine years, you've said, I've been to have seen to see, because the men in your
Starting point is 01:31:19 life, it's not not, I'm don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:31:23 I'm, I want more more to have been to see, I'm a woman a friend of, so when it's a
Starting point is 01:31:27 work not, it's not my practice, my priority, you know, I'm in the fact, my father
Starting point is 01:31:33 wonderful, okay, and there's his proper defy, he also, and in the first years
Starting point is 01:31:41 years, we've been together, you know, and then, and then, the life we've
Starting point is 01:31:46 separated, and I had to get to that, in the front, like a grand
Starting point is 01:31:52 Fife. So, brief, with all the difficulties, so, I'm you know, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:31:58 I'd say, the children have a real relation with Papa, and me also, me, and he,
Starting point is 01:32:03 we're like a kind of relationship, a friend, sister, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:32:09 I'm really, I'm really chanceoose, he's there, at all the New Year, at all the anniversers,
Starting point is 01:32:13 and there, and there's there, there's never, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:32:17 so, so, certain of great decisions and the grand responsibilities, I've had in certain moments
Starting point is 01:32:28 of his life where he had been to get to get to get some of the time where I
Starting point is 01:32:34 would say, I'd would say, I'm going, when I look, when I'm people who have
Starting point is 01:32:39 these families proches, the parents who are there for them to be in the life, etc.,
Starting point is 01:32:43 you know, I'm not in the end in the idea of the end, to be to be
Starting point is 01:32:50 You know, you know at what point you're choyed and at how point it's precious you know,
Starting point is 01:32:54 have you have been your time, I'm talking about the sense that you're all the same that you're all the time,
Starting point is 01:33:01 okay, there's a there's a there's a little bit that your thing, you know, it's a bit of
Starting point is 01:33:09 a problem, the parents are there, I'm there, there's a there's a little bit of there,
Starting point is 01:33:12 there's a there, and it was not there for the calene and and I'm to be able to be
Starting point is 01:33:17 to be four-en-a-half-a-old, you know, you're not a grandparent who is there, you're not the grandparent who's not the conjoint who's you're afraid to come in this pattern that, it's the mechanic that roll, of, yeah, yeah, good night, he's not the time, and he bov, and, you know, I'd say, it's got gollie, like, the man monoparental,
Starting point is 01:33:33 all right, but, I'd say, I think, I've had been telling my father, that this bout, that, pre the bar, a little, but I think I'm just, you know, I think I'm a little, you know, I'm a little, you know, like six years, the four, like, So, so it's a good. You know,
Starting point is 01:33:50 You're talking about, six, six. You know, from the, you're, you know, they're six years. Exactly. Exactly. So, so,
Starting point is 01:33:55 I know who's like 18 years, and my previous year, it's a time. You know, to have changed, the course long time,
Starting point is 01:34:00 yeah, and then you had been in many new, we're but, you know, but, you know, it's like, fantastic, you,
Starting point is 01:34:08 you know, I think, I'm very very fair to me, you , in vland to I'm saying, that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 01:34:13 respectue, who are brilliant, you know, I mean, who are these values, you know, I've got to be afraid of these chappen I'm afraid that
Starting point is 01:34:20 I'm in a adolescence, you know, and then the father also, he's a tonneux, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:34:24 that we're, to a point of view genetic, they have kind of many, the, brief, but,
Starting point is 01:34:30 but it's so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, we've been, we've been,
Starting point is 01:34:37 the problem, you know, the malady has been really, really, had been well, you know, you
Starting point is 01:34:41 had said, you didn't know, you didn't know, because it's a person to their own, you know, the problem, the malady,
Starting point is 01:34:47 it's a lot, but, you know, in the factory resistant to the antibiotics, my little guy, he had eight years, I,
Starting point is 01:34:53 got, you know, with the head at the school, because he's in his butt, the landmine, he's plugged
Starting point is 01:34:58 to all, and he's, probably, you know, and we're probably , we're probably, it's not, so, he's got, from,
Starting point is 01:35:05 it's past proche, if it's, six months later, it's a her sister who's a scourcheo on a
Starting point is 01:35:10 booted on a bit of unoberation, we're getting to function and amyit so that, during the time I'm the rest
Starting point is 01:35:19 of the same I'm trying to do that's my back at the university and I'm promen to St. Justin and University of
Starting point is 01:35:24 New York, you know, so we've got been a many years? This medicine that's still still today, they're still
Starting point is 01:35:32 being like a virus that's been an virus that has been an virus that it's in fact it's
Starting point is 01:35:38 that we're on our on our poor. It's just that my children have really really
Starting point is 01:35:41 reacties like a little, not like a question, but the bacteria has found a
Starting point is 01:35:46 point of entry, and it's, it's, it's a same principle, you know, so,
Starting point is 01:35:52 so, so, the, the, the, the, you know, the
Starting point is 01:35:57 I mean, I'm not the people, that's people completely indem,
Starting point is 01:36:01 you don't have been just in the white with a little little little
Starting point is 01:36:03 little little different episodes, different clabousage at the right, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:10 I think, I think the people, when they know that they're always there, and that's solid,
Starting point is 01:36:16 and who's in line, I think, I think it's and today, my children, that's, it's so, they're so,
Starting point is 01:36:22 they're so, they're very to do you, yeah, really. Fired of your family? Teller to,
Starting point is 01:36:28 too. Good. Telling. It's important. You're returning at the university, you'd like to do it what in life,
Starting point is 01:36:33 and you do you When you're talking, it arrives, it's a 1 hour,000. I can't talk long. It's correct. I like that. I'm an anthropologist of formation. Okay. Look, I'm a second hour of two and a minute.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Anthropologe, okay? It's what, it's a great... It's a... It's a lot of... No, no, I'm more... You know, what, you know, an anthropologist? Yeah, but... Anthropolog, in fact, it's the...
Starting point is 01:36:56 It's, you know, but I'm... It's the part, etnology, so, the etude cultural... Why is we do we do that as... like that as human, and why... Finally, I wanted how it's gonna how it's actually,
Starting point is 01:37:09 I'm a bit of my objective. But, now, I'm just saying, I'm going to say, I'm going to go in psychos, I've had a... The ball, it was... The ball...
Starting point is 01:37:18 I... I've had a certificate in North. I'm... I'm going, you're... And, you know, I'm going to have never been
Starting point is 01:37:25 anthropologist in the life, you, I've never practiced the METI, but I've made many of other things, Soledartate International, I'm going
Starting point is 01:37:33 And in the fond, it's it's been many other that I'm in politics political political
Starting point is 01:37:38 federal. Okay. Oh, that's that's that's that's not exactly.
Starting point is 01:37:44 You know, I'm not, you know, I've been during some years, with some people,
Starting point is 01:37:49 with Denny Trudel at the Chame of the Chambuels, in the public,
Starting point is 01:37:54 and the documents, there, I'm, there, I'm, underian, the condition
Starting point is 01:37:57 feminine, in- and in- , so, person handicapped also.
Starting point is 01:38:02 So it's that. So, plenty of dossiers that's super interesting. I like, I'm going to be very well, I'm very well. Oh,
Starting point is 01:38:09 yeah? Okay, well, yeah, but that, you want, you know, the federal or the province?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Listen, that's he will have to have a face of me? In the same time, I'm not the board of
Starting point is 01:38:20 government. I'm just in the position well, it's so, it's like, it's like, it's like,
Starting point is 01:38:25 it's interesting, to have all the people who have seen to have the person who that person who that's
Starting point is 01:38:31 in the parenthode Exactly. But, well, I'll pass the message. But it's that. And, at a few years, five years, now, with, in the Farnatio, who is my ancient conjoin, Matthew, who is
Starting point is 01:38:44 a Traveyor-de-Rue, and I've been until 17 at St. Osteage, we've started the Café parenthesis. And the objective, that's an organist commonator, that we've done during the pandemic,
Starting point is 01:38:55 because we'd, you know, in the form, Matthew, in the card of his work, he'd not to rejoin the people, The persons were all They could not go to
Starting point is 01:39:02 they could not go to it's a winter that could not not get to it's really complex
Starting point is 01:39:07 we're over this organism that and today the organism has five and we we're
Starting point is 01:39:15 we're supporting everyone who's feeling to have the support of the people in
Starting point is 01:39:22 situations of situations of detenance dependents who live with these
Starting point is 01:39:25 issues of health mental and and it's like a
Starting point is 01:39:29 So it's really like a little cafe bistro. We have a stage, we have some musicians who come to do everywhere, at the Quebec, gratuitly, benevolently, for the people, I mean, these infirmiers on place, we've even even already had a
Starting point is 01:39:43 piscuit on place that came, name it, we have, you know, I mean, to say, plenty of services that are offered there, and in the front, we're seeing, you know, the people, you know, the people, a little bit like my father, who live, all sorts of,
Starting point is 01:39:58 all sorts of of the with all sorts of defies, and it's a milieu of high-seye-of-to-tolerance. I mean, you know, the people who are refused to partoo, we, we're doing, you know, and we're doing it, you know, and so it's a lot of my great force, is to see, to be able to see, but we're in front of the people. It's like to treat them as a human. So we're not of clients. We're talking to people. No, but it's a great layer, that.
Starting point is 01:40:35 To treat a human in human, someone who's an habit of not to be able to be able to be tassed, who is the habit of being treated to fool, who is the ability to look in the eyes and ask how it's what, it's
Starting point is 01:40:48 what his name? Yes, and I'm going to tell you, that, you know, the people at the people who have, you know, there's people who It's a few years, we've seen, you know, we're doing, but we're trying to know the persons in the rear. And the people, it's not complicated. They have a need to imitate.
Starting point is 01:41:03 They have been recognized for what they are, and to feel that their history has a value, you know. And that, it's the base, it's the debut of a possibility to be able to go out and grander, you know. If you... If you... If you...
Starting point is 01:41:21 If you'd have not this background, that, you think that it's that you've been to make to that? Good question. To want, you know, to be probably
Starting point is 01:41:30 the anthropology, to want to learn the human, because you've not understood a human that's been long time, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:38 and today, to want to have the people who, like your father, had been to have been
Starting point is 01:41:45 a time, too young, to be trying to be able, you couldn't, you'd have been to be out of the air,
Starting point is 01:41:52 and soot they'd or were you're going to be with her. The woman that you are today would live this situation with your father, you'd not, you'd have not, you'd be the same utilites, you could, you'd, you'd be able, my life would, if he'd be there, you'd,
Starting point is 01:42:07 it'd be more, you know, I'd, I'd be there to be, to everyone around, you know, what, is, that, it's not, you know, no, no, no, no, but, you know, I'm the impression that that, you're able to look at someone in your cafe, that's opened, and you're able to look like a human, like a human?
Starting point is 01:42:23 Well, really, and, you know, I want to tell you, I think that I think I had kind of something in a entire of me, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:29 the sense where, you know, I'm like, and I'm really, and I'm totally, you know, I'm too, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:38 but I think that it's made also, it, has the plus to develop my desire of justice, you see, this volet there
Starting point is 01:42:48 to say, I want that the chance be equitable, I want that we're don't the
Starting point is 01:42:52 chance to everyone, and I want that's we're not that's a question, you know,
Starting point is 01:42:57 I know what to be ostracized, you know, to be seen like a person, that we're not in their,
Starting point is 01:43:04 you know, and it's, and it's, it's a detrues the people, so that we're trying to
Starting point is 01:43:10 do, in the fact, the people, it's that the people, it's not probably, we're not,
Starting point is 01:43:13 we're not a problem, we, you do you're associated to do you associate, to do you associate, to do you,
Starting point is 01:43:21 people, you know, I'd say, because, you know, I'm concretely, I'm, I'm at center, I feel the for X reason, that I'm a problem of consumption, that I'm badded to the day, that I'm in the whatever, you know, and I'm, you know, I'm doing, I'm doing, I, end up, hey, I'm, and then, and... Yeah, really, and we'll do you have to have a coffee. And you're a bit of a bit.
Starting point is 01:43:44 And then, after that, we'll have, what, what, what, what, what, what, you know, you know, you know, you're, you know, after that, you're, Well, the need of base, the embergement, we have some we're in
Starting point is 01:43:54 there's a parteneer everywhere so that's so, you know, so, it's, there's in
Starting point is 01:44:00 abergement of urgence, all the centers of dependents, etc. So, you, we, we,
Starting point is 01:44:05 we're like a little all over all the resources, but the people, we're coming to
Starting point is 01:44:13 people who come up who cross new and that need to be able to be able to affidia, and in
Starting point is 01:44:18 the phone, we're really to call to get to get to get to do you. So, so, so it's a but the objective is that you
Starting point is 01:44:27 don't know to to get to point in any part when it when it's not to get to get to get to someone, even if it's not
Starting point is 01:44:35 to jose, let's not, we can't not try to let's just evacuate, to talk to someone, you
Starting point is 01:44:42 get, you, I'm to get, you, I'm trying, I'm, I repeat, because that,
Starting point is 01:44:45 but, but, But yes, but yeah, really. So, so, you know, you're, you're going to and you're entomered to people who are all over the sorts of affairs and who are just the desire, finally, to be able to support also. We're just with these payers-a-ed-dad,
Starting point is 01:44:58 the people who have all right, they're all right, I see, I've got, I've seen, I've been doing, I've done, so, that, it's a lot, it's not anything, you know. And, you know, I imagine that you have these aid governmental, the money, you're out of the poach, for help,
Starting point is 01:45:13 it's easy. Well, I'd I'd I think I think the coffee has
Starting point is 01:45:20 proven his credibility and its their value in the so we're quite well,
Starting point is 01:45:28 it's always to have more and we'll have always to have always more more of
Starting point is 01:45:32 I'm glad to I'm because I'm but it's just but it's
Starting point is 01:45:38 time you don't give you don't know just to give some of it's just that it's just that's
Starting point is 01:45:42 it's rare But, I'm just I'd say that one of our most great difficult, in fact, it's, and there,
Starting point is 01:45:47 we're in there, we're in where's the people, they're not because the people, they want to
Starting point is 01:45:52 us. You don't? You don't have the people who do you know because they have to be
Starting point is 01:45:59 bizarre, because they will fom a joint on the road, because you know, because you're in quite,
Starting point is 01:46:06 you know, so, and we have these good proprietor, you, but it's not, it's not done to all the organisms, and the organizers like us, to hold of tolerance, it's a difficult. Sotomay, you know, at St. Ostesach, you me say, St. Marte, right, right, right, right,
Starting point is 01:46:29 so, you know, but it's so, at all the moment we're in central, you know, it's in the middle, we'd say, no, no, at least, I'd have a little house in the banyue, you're going to be... Yeah, and then after, St. Marte, you'd never, there, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:46:43 And, you know, I'm the first to see, I'm the first of, you know, I'm not sure. I'm a dad of two young children. I'm not sure that I'm very pretty close to have a guy a little lusk who's with a peters on the coin of the yoll. My wife are my feet.
Starting point is 01:46:56 You know, I'm going to make the other side, I imagine that you know, you know, you know, we can't, you know, we understand that, but we understand also. Yeah, and that's the difficult to the issue.
Starting point is 01:47:05 But our job at us, well, our job at us, it's also, it's sensibilize to say, okay, but you're, you're, you're done you can't that if you're to be in front of his parents to,
Starting point is 01:47:12 let's turn, let's turn to, that's just put, that's could, that's can't be able to take to make a march on, you know, a street that's not just the
Starting point is 01:47:19 house with the children, and we, so we're trying to sensibilize also the both the
Starting point is 01:47:27 the, let's them, let's them, you're explaining what you know, and also the people who often the people
Starting point is 01:47:32 who think, in their life, it's normal, so I mean, I mean, why it's I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:41 But, yes, it's because the parents, they want to their parents, they see, someone who's going to be in their parents, you know. But in their life, it's not that? There's a question of culture there in, and in the case, I'd have long to say there on to say, I imagine. But it's different cultures, it's
Starting point is 01:47:59 these worlds different, it's, the apprentices' social different. I mean, it's been long, before to really understand how it works the life of Monsieur, Madam, all the world. So, if it's it's a
Starting point is 01:48:11 apprenticeship, because I had been in all the public, I think I'm not, I'm doing all right,
Starting point is 01:48:16 but it's very correct, that's right. It's not to be able to all the things, sometimes.
Starting point is 01:48:21 No, but minimal, when you're at the choice to be respected or not, I'm sure, I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:48:26 I'd be sure, I'd rather not in the time, I'm saying, I'd say, hey, it's been, it's not,
Starting point is 01:48:32 it's been, by the point, to be able to get to be able, I'm gonna get the time to be on But, you know,
Starting point is 01:48:43 Bravo and thank you because, and I do that to all the people who do you decide to open that, and you know, it's probably a lot of work, enormously of gestion, you'll make,
Starting point is 01:48:57 not rich with what she has that, you know, I'd say, it's not a necessity in your life, you know, you, you know, you'd have been, you'd have been profited more of your
Starting point is 01:49:05 and your kids' kids than the time to have to pass to get the to do this trick that's
Starting point is 01:49:10 you're to do you know, because I think that's important. I know, and I'm
Starting point is 01:49:17 agree with you know, but there nothing that you're not that's it's a whole
Starting point is 01:49:23 people, you know, there's there's a other who will be there, but I'm
Starting point is 01:49:28 to tend to not, I'm not to get to people who people who do you know that,
Starting point is 01:49:32 I'm not a couple, I'm not, I'm not, But if all the people say that, he'll have never to aid.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Because she doesn't necessarily of where she would have been at the base. But it's for that, because you,
Starting point is 01:49:46 you'd have put to say, hey, I'm in these view it, they're going to be there and there's
Starting point is 01:49:52 to be there and I'm and I'm and you're to be able to do you know, I'm sorry to do you
Starting point is 01:49:56 have to do you go? I'm sorry, let's go. I'm not, you know, the person like, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:00 the man the man in the front of face? Yeah. Okay? Okay? Okay?
Starting point is 01:50:06 Well, but... I don't know. It's, I'm for the... But this person that is coming to get to the aid to
Starting point is 01:50:11 coffee. And there, it's been a challenge. There, it's a deal with the sense where, okay,
Starting point is 01:50:20 I'm doing with that? Because, there, clearly, this person has a need to and she has
Starting point is 01:50:26 been to help, but, now, it is not me who he's not he going to you know, so, so,
Starting point is 01:50:30 I'm, I'm just, I'm just, I'm retireed, and it's the intervenants who have
Starting point is 01:50:34 made the job, and who they're accompanied, you know, but, you know, it's ironic sometimes the life,
Starting point is 01:50:40 there's a thing, and that's that's bad, and it's so, it's a great for you
Starting point is 01:50:46 have a place, you've been to, you've been to a person that? Well, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:50:50 that I'd say, let's, that I'd plenty of tristess or of or of this
Starting point is 01:50:57 or so, but for for real, I'd be absolutely everything, it's just that,
Starting point is 01:51:03 When I look at least, you know, that's been to be a child, by the end of, but, you, at this age that I'm not there.
Starting point is 01:51:10 It's not your responsibility. No, no, it's that. No, no, it's that, but, you know, I'm, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:15 is that, really, it really, it really, it really, I've never posed the question. I'm not
Starting point is 01:51:22 asked a question. I'm not, I'm not, but, I'm not, but, I'm going to be here,
Starting point is 01:51:25 but, but it's so, you know, I, you, it's, personally,
Starting point is 01:51:31 it's, it's a problem that's the you're going to because you're there's a limit and he he doesn't
Starting point is 01:51:36 not here. Well, I'm sorry to get to get a no, yeah, and it's correct
Starting point is 01:51:40 and it's normal but it but it's made, like, no, we're over that you know, it's not
Starting point is 01:51:46 to get to everybody, but I'm in the good, and I'm just not, but to just
Starting point is 01:51:52 say, I'm me aloing and someone of other will gerry yeah, we pass
Starting point is 01:51:56 the epoch. Bravo. Thank you, thank you, felicitation for what you do you do you've
Starting point is 01:52:05 traversed because as you've said you have made some of the I'd say when we're because when we
Starting point is 01:52:12 have the key in the key to have had all the toulde to get to call
Starting point is 01:52:18 and nasty of force for real I'm I don't and I let's
Starting point is 01:52:24 let's let's you know the two hours that we came to pass together,
Starting point is 01:52:31 it's, it's, if, you could have a cap, then you'd be able to
Starting point is 01:52:38 be able to think. Well, no, I'm, because, you, you know, just at 14 to have made front,
Starting point is 01:52:46 you know, to have, you know, made the foot before that person that was extremely
Starting point is 01:52:50 dangerous, it's far, and, you know, all the different that, and, you,
Starting point is 01:52:57 And, bravo for that. And I'm sure that you're a great source of inspiration for all the people who are going to be read- to listen to this episode.
Starting point is 01:53:05 And thank for what you do you do with the cafe. Redone the name, so please. The cafe
Starting point is 01:53:11 parenthase. Description YouTube, you're there. You're a site, we can do do you know, I imagine. Yeah, cafe parenthase
Starting point is 01:53:19 point com. So, if the people can't, if there are people who want to see, it's people
Starting point is 01:53:25 who want to have to do Don. Exactly. We aid, we support, it's going to be people like you. It would have
Starting point is 01:53:32 come to our instances governmental a little more, this kind of thing, but, we prefer to cut and
Starting point is 01:53:40 do you have to make the road to marred, but in the way, let me not talk the system of the
Starting point is 01:53:43 health. No, I think it always, it's always it's more. But I
Starting point is 01:53:47 just just say, I mean, I mean, it's not, it's not more, it's like,
Starting point is 01:53:51 all the people who are in back, it's the team, it's the people, it's the
Starting point is 01:53:55 people, because I would have to work a machine to make a same. I'm not
Starting point is 01:54:00 but at the base, it's a person, it's a person, it's not to do you do it,
Starting point is 01:54:05 to make a accountability, to make a , you know, there's a thing, there's a thing,
Starting point is 01:54:11 I'm doing, that you do you say, that you don't know, to say, you're not to say to
Starting point is 01:54:15 all the people, that's not that's not that's not that's not, but you Matthew,
Starting point is 01:54:19 Matthew, Matthew, They're not there, have not the idea, have not the idea to beckon to seepolling, and to be able to structure the beneficiaries, and to call the associations
Starting point is 01:54:30 for it. It's not. Exactly. I mean, I'm saying, we're saying, we're saying, it's a very good idea for say, good-jour-a-mond,
Starting point is 01:54:40 who are all together the podcast? Well, 100%, but all, in fact, it's simple, all benevolence, all the benevolence, all the benevolence,
Starting point is 01:54:51 my salutation, and all my respect, and, the gang of parenthesis, thank you for what you do with it, to be able to people who are
Starting point is 01:55:01 to be able to do because it for an idea, and as you say, you could not do that all. So it's
Starting point is 01:55:09 so it's not and these people are not, I can't not you know me, but you know you're who's at,
Starting point is 01:55:14 and you have all my salute and all my respect. you also. I'd I'd
Starting point is 01:55:18 I'd do you plenty of great things to have your kids and your kids'
Starting point is 01:55:25 and your children in health, who's maybe a reunion family more in the
Starting point is 01:55:33 next year. I'll you'll be to be a lot of people who I'm in a lot of
Starting point is 01:55:39 I'm so I'm so I'm thank you to have thank you for what you thank you
Starting point is 01:55:44 for what you Thank you.

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