Au Parloir - Épisode #161 - Pierre St-Cyr

Episode Date: October 4, 2026

⚠️ Abonne-toi sur PATREON: WWW.PATREON.COM/AUPARLOIRDans cet épisode, je reçois Pierre St-Cyr. Après une enfance marquée par la séparation de ses parents, une éducation très stricte chez les Témoins de Jéhovah et la violence, il vit un drame de plus lorsque sa mère décède du cancer alors qu'il est adolescent. Placé en famille d'accueil, privé de repères et noyant ses démons dans l'alcool, Pierre sombre rapidement dans la criminalité, allant des vols qualifiés à l'armée jusqu'à purger deux peines fédérales.Malgré des années passées derrière les barreaux et une fragilité toujours présente, il est parvenu à faire un virage à 180 degrés. Son histoire est une preuve poignante de réhabilitation et de résilience, où l'amour de ses enfants et le travail lui ont permis de rebâtir sa vie.☠️ Suivez-nous pour ne rien manquer :TikTok : https://www.tiktok.com/@cedricbergeronparloirInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humourFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/cedricbergeron.parloir.humour⚠️ Pour collaboration : [e-mail] Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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And my parents. Two parents, so I'd say. Two parents, I'd imagine. Two parents. And my parents, it's sure, it's a bad Catholic. During that I was young, totally far as you, you know, it was very religious in the time.

I was in the 70, I'm in 76. Like that, it's a very religious. And I'd go to the church at all the day, with my parents until the age of six years. At the age of six years, but my parents were separated. They have divorced. It's my father that had

had had the guard legal of the parents. Or it's pretty rare at this time

when it's like in the beginning 80. Yeah, and I think had reached to have the guard

at cause an affair of extra conjugale at the divorce. Okay, like that

that's for that had had been had been I had always always to stay

to my mother but it's my father that had had been to be

that you Because, there you know, you're talking to foreign minds, we're talking of a other time, we're talking, we're talking to religion, it's what the ambiance familial, she's here? Is it something, is, you're very strict? It's, it's true strict?

You know, there's a rigidity, or? No, not, not yet at this age, that. It's more when I'm, my father, when he's separated, that at six years, not long time after, he had, like,

in returning, in a testimony of Jobah who, he'd be, he'd be able to see, a little, like, Like that, he wentre, Tammuio,

and then, after that's it's a lot of, it's a lot of too, so, so you know, so you're in,

so, so, so you're at, so, if you're the , is you see your your mother,

you know, a few, we'd have to have to be, we'd have to have, but, me,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd rather rather, I'd rather rather, really, with my mother,

and, you know, when, when it's, the divorce, he knew, I mean, I remember,

my at the end of the other, and he had said, well, you want to be where you're going to rest, you know, I said, I said,

well, guard me back the past, my little Chris, you know the heart of the other will never be never, okay,

I'm okay, I'm going to rest with you, I'm going to with you, I'm going to my father, but it's been

a bad choice. Really, a bad choice. When he has started to come to enter in the testimony of Jehovah,

it's a criss of a religion of Mard. Excuse me. Hey, I'm a guy, I'll do I say to each intro, I'm for

the liberty of expression, so your words, you're decided. I mean, I'm, I know not enough to say that, but, you know, I'm not the guy the most pro-religue, I'll do always, if the religion you do something, I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to get in the gorge of force,

you know, but you, you know, I've lived, I'm just the right to do. I'm, you know, and my father, we'd say, he'd prena what he'd was good for him, and what's he'd be, you know, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't, you, it'd have no, other boy, but he'd

he'd preenna, you can't have used, you can't put on the boughamac, you've played a lot for mo, it's done, it's done, two-per-four, with a manch. Okay. And, yeah, I'm

mongued, and, you know, I'm gonna'clock, you know, I'm gonna'clock, you know, I'm gonna'clock, and when I got the cell, the time, of Joe, yeah, there was a cell

Mordy, the Tuesday, and the And then, I'd have to be present it there. And the ancients, it's like the prets a little. They other, they'd say, I'm just like, I'd say, I'm saying, my father, but there, you go, you'll go, you'll be doing a facet. Like, so.

I've been to, I've been to small to bed, and they'd marry a little facet, while the cell of reunion, and they're all there, and they're all. Because what they want, is that an infant six-year, rest assy, while there's a

while there's people who are to be able to do that's in the plighting, he thinks more to do

the end up that's that's sure and then and you know, I'm, because I do that's a

religion of Mard, but, you know, when you go to be at the school, after that,

you know, I'm when I was at the primary, we had the the bus

Mary and the St. Mary and the night we had the little bit

all all the butt of butt, then I rest sitting while I'm in like all

like I'm in like you've I've been in the of the reject huh you're not

to leave not to be able to you know when you know what when you're when you're when they're

when they're doing the cards of New Year yeah yeah what you you've been anything

in the fight yeah it's a group in bar like that's a part of my not person. I'll

just on your question, you know, you're who in the gradation of age? You're the baby? Yeah,

but I'm a little bit about. Okay. She's two minutes more than I'm like two

more than we are you're two of the memory. Yeah, this, this, this,

you're the sole to be? My sister, they're, they're all they're all they're all and they're

only the sole guy like that, it's a more than that's that's And even my sister, I'm going to have to have been a shot in parachute

in a few weeks. And she said, I said, who's the other one? She said, it's like when we were trying to attend to her, my june, my friend. It's who that going to have in front of, it? It's you who are you who are born in first, too? No, it's her. I said it's seven who are in the first who are you? You've been at all the first, you're going to be at first.

Yeah, but, you know, I would have, you? You're going to go you go and probably to get to like to get like to get more tired of my he's more

like that's over like they're in front of course they're at least but not coming to to come to our story we're talking to

it's me it's me who it's cut up for sure it's a yeah yeah yeah

you're gonna and you're so you're saying you're so you're so at the at six years

you're he's like you rest with you other And then he He went there's Is it

Is it Is it It's a The thing The thing The thing Yeah, Yeah,

Yeah, It's a At the Ports at A point, you know, At a moment You know,

You know, You know, You know, At the end of his last days, he was not the more

He was He was than the time to be than he had returned. Something

you said Also, you said, you did Intemo Joeva Pohue He buvv

Same, did you, because he'd like the Jean-Boev, or he was a problem? Oh, it's been a problem a lot of, all his life, my father, even,

me too, I was honest, my first breast that I've vire, it's my uncle, it's the sole the friend to my father,

it was the sole that he could be able to be that I'm, but it's an alcoholic finished, he had all the time and a while,

but to maintain the tranquill, he'd be done to goorgue. But now, he made a little bit too down to

get to be in a little bit of a bit of course like that's like that's okay, I'm sorry I was six and

six and barnaque yeah, my parents they arrive after that they're seeing that they've got to my mom,

you're obliged to make to put up to pissing, I'm saying to my dad, you'll let's not do that, he's,

he's been married, you're gonna have been there's been there, and we're we're doing that we're

in the chaw like that. So the temperament aggressive of of your there used to I'm not really I'm doing

I'm making the most my father when he's when he parted after me I'm pussed in my

culott were you did you like that was you was a man was you I think

I think yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm just because as

they said they've been they're they're he was he was violent in my

mother and it's has done how much the Because you say, you know, the time of the Tremoy of Jova, you're saying... At 12 years, at 12.

At 12, yeah, at 12, at 12, yeah, at 12, in your life, it's... A lot of... Ben, don't... Besson, literally. Yeah, yeah, a coup. At 8, 9, I think,

he had pettened in a cut of a cut in a coupon, I'd have gone, and all the kid, and we're at home, and his son, and he'll start, and he'll start, you'll start... You'll never, you know,

you'll, you know, and, you know, he had a time. But his temperament violent, I think he's been, I think he really he had

returned to be in over. We're in the other the children, I think at 20, it's my mom and when he

came to get to be over the time, it's, especially with a line that's said, you know,

to get a tabarned, you know, he's a barred, he's a barred for the cash, yeah.

You're past what, at 12? There, at 12, at a moment of a moment of the,

I'm, I'm going, I'm a crisis to volet And I decided to I'm mad at the school, and I said,

Mama, come in church at the school, I'm going to rest to her like that. My mother, she's her mom, she's her. She's her. But she said,

Pierre, I'm obliged to call the police the same, you know, because it's not me that's a guard. Yeah, because it could be constantly like a kidnapping

like that. Exactly. Like that. She'll call the police. The police has retond to see my father for the advertet

like she's my mother and to not me but my my father, he's not content in the he's probably

I don't know how it's I'm not sure that's not quite because the police who came to have been

at my wife, they've got to get to get to his wife, and at the end of the

end up to the line it's been that my mother has just you? I have my two

two sisters my two sisters my two had made the jump before. Yeah,

they had done the jump about, my cell jimel she has had had rested

to my father, again. So, the guy who took the coup for her, it was, it was rendered

her own Yeah, but I think had to be done the coup at after the time I'm

going to be doing it. Yeah, it's a calm the patent a little, but he has been

a pretty and it's not a lot of the pleasure to rest to my mother, and I'm to get

the cancer of the cancer of the cancer of and I'm sorry to ask,

I'd be finally, at age of 12, you discover, what's what, being a kid, to be an adoration? Ah, I adored so. You know, I'm in sixth

an year, you know, like that, like that, you know, I had to talk to, you know, the other person who are not

to be the people, when you're to be able, you can't, they're not, they say, they're just that's the

people, and it's to do you, like that, you, you, you're all the time to all the school, and you're all the

and if there's a person, you're chanced, it's your person, it's just Like that When I returned to

She's in my mother I can't have There's been to have There's really It's really fun I'm wondering Because when we're Inplicated

In something like Something like that Like that's Sometimes, The children, You know, At a minute There you have

certain Croyance To which you You're stuck In fact of your Because you You know If you're

If you're If you're masturbate You're not in Infer You know I'm not I'm not, I'm glad. I'm not going to talk about your masturbation, but, you know, but in this sense of,

you know, there's, you know, I've received some, you know, in some, you know, in these, uh, in the religions like that, but they're kind of getting long time, the, even if, okay, I'm part of my burrow, but there are these endocrinements who are still? Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, that's the, yeah, that I've got to find out of my cachette.

It was a... Yeah. It's a certain liberty. Well, yeah, but, you know, a certain liberty, but, you know, you're totally privy to a day of the jury of over, that when you start out of the law, you can't even discover,

yeah. Yeah, especially at this age, or when you're... You can't have... You know, you can't... You can't have a blonde. Like, you say, you can't be not to masturbate no more. Because, that's the...

It's the mal, it's the same thing. Yeah, but, yeah, but, I'm going to... Yeah, but, I'll retrap on the details, to discusses what I was in the same. Yeah. But, well, malicement, it's what you said, so you said

to do it, because your mother... One year and a minute after I was to stay there, she was dead. You're dead. Okay,

not it, had been diagnosed she, she's dead. She was dead. She had decided. She had really

a cancer malin, like, you know, you're coming up, a year after, she's arrived, she's been diagnosed, six months

than, she's a day and so, I'm just a year and a year with... So, that's 13 and a

18, 14, 14, Yeah, I've got 14 and a quarter. And then you have I return to

rest to my my. Uh, I've returned but I'm to turn to be three weeks. I was content

to find out my son and my daughter and my son jimel to rest on car,

you know, when you're to go to my mom I'm going to not, no, I went to

to go to my wife, but you're I return but, you know, when you're 13 and your your mother

deced, and they say, okay, it's the family of the or you're to return to your

but you choose your while, you know, it's a error to choose three a three years

we're, you know, if you're doing, we're doing, we're doing that's the time,

so it's that we're that we're trying with that. Three weeks, so you've so it's

for a year- to say, you've been, I don't say that because in the meantime, Chris, you've got to be able to... Well, the first year, it was really marvellous,

but when she had started to get married, but I'm... I just as long as I'm saying, my mother will survive, my mother, she's going to survive, and it's all, and then, she'll be able to survive, and, now, she'll be inle a sin.

It's been to be in the second sin. And then, even that at all the top of course, you know, there had some cell for the chambal

he had he had to do that and he had in a room and I was not even that my

mother had on the mother was that my minute it it's like I'm like I'm able

really that she was able to be capable of she had been there she had been she put

her own at age baby like a like a like a and that it's

something a bit You know, you know, you You said, I've done to do find the choice between the family of the family of my father,

and we're doing, we're doing this choice, you know, but in the same time, you're, you're a kid of a 13-year, that's,

I'm a good, the park to have your and you're not, uh, you're not pre and you're not mentally,

you're not, you're not to make the decision for my life at 13 years, you're not, you're not, and then you're not,

and like that, and it's, I imagine that's impactant, I would say... We'd say, my mother, she's batted, she's batted, she until the last year, she wanted,

you know, until I said, I said, at a moment, you're able to say, but I was able to say, and I said, okay, Mom, you can't go, and I'll reassure to my own and then the story,

that's part. So, so long time, for more than 30 years that your mother had decided, if you've made the call, like you, that's a question, and it's a lot,

It's a problem that's a life, you know. So, so you're a man, you're a man, you're in a

un-of-a- point-a-a-a- what's, which is a little, so I imagine if it's a day and a minute that's

got to get at your return? No, because I'm, you're a minute, my mother,

you know, my father, you have a bit of course, you know, we don't want to it, you know, it's just that, you,

there's never, you know, maybe been a good Papa, but, you know, there was a car, but, you know,

it's just that I'm not going to get to be over the time, and I, and I, it was over there

that it turned to, like that, a morning, I was a man, I said, I said,

I'm going to I'm going to get back, to come to my mother, I'm going to call my son,

Nisi, in New York, and we're going to say, she, she, she, she,

my son, she said, oh, We're going to do that, like that, and we'll go to go to and go to

and see, we're saying, Nancy, we say, Nancy, come to be here to church at the school.

Well, we're not to turn to see my back, okay, okay, I'm going to go to come to

the school, but before, to come to get to to be able to and the team,

like that, she, she, to say, yeah, but you can say, to say,

my son, that I'm saying, let me be a lot, they're in a little the other,

like, We know we're going to get us to garry, and why your son, why your son, we're going to turn to my father, we're not going to turn to my father, my son, have been to see, and all, she said, I don't know the choice

to apply the PGG, and the police, and all that's a little fugue of cut, a cut, duress, like, a few. A fugue, a figure, a figure, you know, exactly, exactly,

like that, they've been able to all the kid for who he's present to the school, and, by the, by, my, my,

my, p.m. And the police is there. Calm, me, Mr. Sinse, calm, you. Like, so, we're trying, we're parted with the DPJ this night, I found out of,

me they're in a family, not a family, a center of an open. Okay. I had the door to go to go to the school, but I'm in the tit, so I'd rather

after that. Yeah, the school is finished, to re-rown, yeah, it's sure. The chambers open, not, the chambered,

and all, exactly, like that, and I was at St. Rischelue, my sister, But the end of the same After a month, I think

I had the right to go to go to get a visit to my son Like that's I'm afraid to know the family of the family

of course They wanted They'd want They'd want to But the family The same After six months When it's

They didn't They'd not They'd be able to Me'Reight In fact They'd have been They're in They're gonna

They'd like you're Afteree back, My son is there. My son is there. And he's probably to pass it before the judge. And he said, we said, we're saying,

we're doing, we're doing so. Alleluia. But Christ, it's a bad affair. Like that, I'm going to my family

of my sister until the age of 18 years. It's cool. I want to you to pose a question. There was, there was a motive

for the , you know, they've invited your son in a family, you know, and after that after six months,

they want to they're going to to be to get to a family of not with Pierre. At a minute, you know,

I'd like, they're like, they're not always great, they're not always there's a reason for the

Yeah, no, but, because he said, like, why the center of

over, because the idea would be to me to me to me on and a point,

the idea would be not of massage, it's like me that he had influenced a bit,

and you had been when you 'd be able, you'd not, to, I don't,

I'm, it, I don't know. Plus, because the idea that was the question of my can't

at my wife. It's for that he wanted me in a second to get in a little bit there.

And then my ensemble of acue over, I'm, it's like I came up my first role

at the etalach a carceette a racquet that I would have a day, that I'm

that I'm back, yeah, yeah, yeah, he would have to be there to pay,

yeah, and I'm sorry to ponged, and I ponged, I ponged of work to do the

work of to do that that's for that he would be to be in a family of accue

of re-adaptation like, yeah, before he, we're going to try to be doing a hand and

it's not been moved, view the pastoral who's the course, but I'm, but I'm

that's what I was, what I'm to say, it's a thing, but it's a colleague.

Ben. I don't know why they're not, because we're not you know, you can't en-a-of-a-vile, or that's a man, in a day, and...

In dewe. In deught. You know, there's been there's a lot, it's sure, uh, at this infant, why there's, why there's not a

see-to-the- and it's not the end up front of, I, I've got a problem in my head, uh? Uh, pastange that,

that's so. Pastage that, even, even, the adults who are not able to realize, they're going to have to be able to

Well, the ADPIJ, we're sometimes well, and often, and often, and is it that's a million, we're always, I think that's

any in a year, there's still that's not that's a lot of, but I think there's a certain things that's a bit of

case by case, but, you know, there's not, there's not nothing that is related to the government that's perfect,

not, especially not in Quebec, because the auditors, Guirriro, know, my,

my opinions there's opinions there's, my opinions, there's, with the period that you're with your sour, you're at about

14-18? Yeah, it's about 14-18. And what's this life, family of family of accuelly with your son? You're with your

son-jumice that's not a moved? No, it's a It's a great, that. Yeah, that's a good family.

It's a good family, it's a good family, but, you know, for me, I don't know perhaps it's at cause of my

performance, but they've never really been there. It's been, It was more like he was there for the pay. He was there for the pay. And he'd, he'd pay not a bit of bese,

and it cost me not cheque. And then they're others, it's a rapport, the family of accue, I don't know how it's it but it's a rapport, but it's a report. It's weird what I'd say, because, Bravo,

I've been eted, and I'd rather not in the detail because the people know my life, but, but, But, but,

but I think, it's too paying to be in the reason for the reason for the

I'm not the reason it's not that, but it's just that's just that it's just that it's quite that's quite

that's quite there's a fact that there there's a bad reason, it's to say for the money.

For the money. When I'm I'm having, that I'm that's, and I would be paid. And I,

well, no, I'm going to to give to an organet, I don't know, I don't know, legally,

because you're like like a syndicate you're like, you know, I'm obliged to receive when I'm, you know, I was able to, you know,

but, you know, in the sense that's not for that, but you're for the bad, but that's, it's,

that's, that's, we're not, that's, but I'm, that's, I'm sure, I'm,

that's, I'm sure, I'm, I'm sure, I'm at some that, I'm a minute, the,

the, the chiffs have changed, but, you know, you'd see, you'd say, let's turn, let's turn, you're in a, uh, you're loggie,

you're abbeyed, that you're in a family, and there's a love, and there's, there, there were not that,

there, there, and, uh, and perhaps, I, I didn't, the situation,

me and all, when I, I was out of family of a-acue, not long time after, I,

I'm just tried, a job, over the African-Toke, okay. And, and I'm, I'm, to do you know, I'm going to go to school.

I closed the restaurant the Monday, Mordy, Marche, Tuesday. I'm a 11 o'clock. I'm at 4 o'clock. Like, so I go to school the day, I'm going to go to my bellow, is it at school, because the night

I had no boss, and, you know, I was at 45 minutes at the pierce to turn to my own to, come to, see, like, I'm going to go, to go, in the school, and the winter. Whoop, after that,

I've tried three years. and then I was never there. I was there for you I'd get up to

get a ball of cereal and I'm for the day of the year I'm don't know

a crisis to see I'm with my boop I'm arranged with my linge

I'm did you the desire to work to be you know, is that

it was to you to get to get to get to having an esp

an kind to have my independence a because not

to be to have to to Thank you. Hello, everyone. I'm in direct to my studio. And I'm in a few seconds for you

to talk to our more command of story who is with us. We have two, three, thousand visioned by episode, and he was there. And, sincerely, if he had not been there,

even if this project that exists again, because they've really had really financially at the beginning, and I just to say that I'm

to make this little video that, compare my and there are a lot of people who me create, hey, you talk of an affair of assurance, it's what?

In privy, the people I'm not going to tell to you'll explain to you know how it's like compare my prime,

he's specialise in insurance life, so are the concieres in insurance life who have

for a un-gues, they're their speciality, no case refuse, because when

you're an certain age as age, if you're a dossier criminal, and if you

have had a disease like a cancer, it's extremely difficult, quite impossible

to have an assurance life. They will they want to have. If you have some, if you're not sure that you're assurable, you think

that's not sureable, contact them, they, they're going to have an assurance of life. It's important for not to let your in the need when

you're not. Compare my premium. I'd like my independence, not to have my count, and we'd say it's a neseu,

but if I work, and I'm cut to nothing, but I'm doing to do it, I'm plus one. Yeah,

It's... It's... It's... Like, that's... At 16, I'm going to a danceer,

that's... And they're not the same when they're not the same in the money, like,

man, danceer. Exactly, like that, you know, and they said anything, I said,

I'm paying my... Tate my , you're saying, they're getting to get the money, you're not quite the

cost you to the time, it's not the problem. Yeah, it's not to leave, to go, to go,

to work, to, tall, you'd you'd be able to at the school, you know, because Chris,

it's a hour where you don't know, you're not, you know, it's not, it's not, it's not

bad at the school, and you know, I was going to get to a bus, like I, if I was,

if I'd play the bus, I'd play in a velo, I'm playing my two gross canette before

to arrive at the school, I'm, my two grandette of beer, huh? Okay,

the alcohol rent in your life? The alcohol rent in my life in my life at a party of the family of the accuey.

And every day. And they're salient, you know, even through the hour of midi, I could go to dancey, I had an hour for dinner, me called to say, I'm out of tequila, and then,

and then we're returning to school, and my profus me'd say, crime, beer, on, your perfume, without alcohol? Well, yeah. You, I'm going, today, I don't,

but you're not very costo, you know, at 16, at 14, whatever. You think if you have to have to have a in a kid

of 1415 or? No, but it's not quite the barb pussed to or what? No,

but I'd measure six feet. Okay, so you've got to point in your grandeur rapidly. Yeah,

I'd say, 13, 15 years, and, yeah, I'm not gross, 145

live, but, you know, I never really mounted, the most the most the most

the most the most the, it's not negative in the sense to say, you know,

if today, you're someone who is not very very costo I said, Chris, at 16,

it would be not be a big, no, it's a chalot but it was a pass, so

yeah, it was a and I'm up to get a little postcard and all it was

it was more it was there was there, there was there's a lot of there,

no, um, um, um, the alcohol, it's like, because, for you

see, the alcohol, it's at cause, I think, the same time, that the

fatigue, you know, I mean, I had too at the school and worked and worked at 35 hours a moment of a day,

during three years I don't, you know, you know, you know, it's not you have to be able to sense.

We're saying, I mean, to say, chatt of tequila that's gonna make a quid, yeah, I'm,

no, it's a rebe- You know, it's a crainke, yeah, it's, it's,

I'm also that you're also, you know, when I'm to say, when I was to say, you're in

the same, you, it's an Psy. Yeah. I'm the impression that your Psy's become the alcohol.

Yeah, exactly. That's, yeah, yeah, it's right. You knowy the Dement, you know the infant, you know how to your mother, you know,

I've been the same. You know, I've been the time, you know, your mother at a death, you have to go to get to try to

not, and then after, you know, you've got been to pose, to live the death of your death of your mother, I'm

no, no, I'm sure, I've been not, I've been not, I've been even the

that's a marriage that I'm having my father and all, you know, I don't know, I've got, I've been long time my adolescence, to say, me I'm going to

my age of a lot of a bit of a bit of, I'm not a bit, but I'm confronted, by the time.

But to see, that's an alcoholic, to have to have a problem of alcohol, you're just entering in this pattern

that, without being conscious that you're not not conscious, you're not, it's not, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, but it's good, so you're

into this circle, yeah, in the same, in the States, so even at a bit chode air, in trying to make free of the pouly, and

yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's, at a moment of a day, I, I've been, I'm trying,

to be aroused to work, to work, to try with, you know, the barb was a quite crissment

more long than that, but at a moment of done, I'm, I'm at , and then, the gendent

to know, to be the barb, plus or less or pote, oh, Depanour, go to to get the lamp of rosawe,

and the cream of barb parrame, and then she's through the okay, we're going to get to be able to my job,

I'm going to get back, I'm at after that ran after that in the restaurant she said, okay,

you've been to be able to get to the bureau she said, she's not to be able to be

she, she, she, she's suspended for for three days. Da,

yeah, you're a suspension for a after all after all what I did what I

did you have been me suspend and I'd have to be rase to go ahead. And then you know, Chris, it's all right, I'd rather than,

I'd rase at a stee at a restaurant and after that she said, she's suspended two two days. Like that, I mean,

I'm a barbannack, don't know my malade of departure sheing, malade of departure. You think that for us other, it's

a way, the little guy who arrived sometimes a bit shoddye and he's in the font of tonne,

we're... Maybe, maybe, and all, because, you know, I'm even not had

, Like that, it's a suit, three days of suspension. But, I'm not, I'm not put in a lot. You know, when I'm at least,

a restaurant, for the last month, Monday, on the Friday, and Tuesday, and I, I, I, I,

I'm not a cab, uh, even, you know, I, I finished my second at a second at the second,

I, and I went to CED by the suite, all the kit, uh, but, you said, but you'd

on sort, yeah, I, I, I'm sorted, yeah, I, I'm sorted.

Okay. But it's sure, like, after all the sacrifices that I had been doing for the restaurant, but I'd say I'd say, I'd say, I'd have been in the same after three years. I've got to let's have been, in the case. I've got rid of treason. I'm in tabernardner. At cause after that, I'd be servileged. I mean, I adore, fair the psychologist, uh, and, me, my second-air-sang, I'm not finished,

so, you know, I'm really a psychologist at two-sene. but, you know, what's you've got to view with your person who's supposed to have to be able,

to protect to be in your is a treason, you know, you've been been to be your mother, but you're

to return to your mother and then it's a disade, it's a it's a sense that you have made

the support there to and then, and then I'm trying in your case, you know,

I'm the impression that, you know, there's there's a You know, there's there's things that we do and we say,

I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to get to the analysis or you know, there's a question, there's a... It's a...

It's a... It's a... It's a lot of... You're not a psychologist. You're not... No, but, you know, we... You know,

we're seeing that sometimes, so, you're... See, I've received with these blessures, that, you know, I'm trying to

that, you know, because we're not to buy not the beer, the same, at this age, that, for the fun. At all,

but no, But no. You know, you're not, you're not to buy a a couple of Kincan and your chum a Wednesday, when you're going to

have to be able to go to go to get to the morning, you're in fuck, you know, it's a fuck, it's sure that it's not bad

to do you, it's a problem, but, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, he's not, you know,

I'm not , you know, it's a kid, there, yeah, we're afraid, we're not, we're not,

we're not, we know, we know, at what, At how point there's adults in your life that you've been

to talk about that's in a consequence? Yeah, he's not really, you know, I'm going to I'm sorry,

you know, in my parents, you know, perfect, you're going to go to get in the man, I'm going to be

back, I'm saying, I'm a bit too, I'm afraid, I'm saying, yeah, it's not,

it's, confidence in a like that, you know, like that, you know, so, so,

so, I think that I'm going to pay my job. You're not in family of accue? I'm still in family of accue. Passed 18 years? You're still in 18 years. Yeah, he'd be there, but in getting at my job,

the family of the accue, the monsieur, he said, in any case, it's a crisis of my own things that and I hope you're going to find out of bed-fetched. Like, too, me, the tabernac, you know, I don't know if I'm not to re-trow a bit of fete, at cause I've got to I'm going to

be able to be able to be paid they're going to they're doing not, I'm not, I don't not, I'm

not sure, I don't know how it's not that's not that's why I'd have a job bit, but

after a after a month I didn't have not a minute I'm a family of ake and a guy

who's me say, hey, Chris, I know, I know a place I'm with a coffer

in a house and he'd say, we'll go all to do it He said, Chris, we're We're going to enter in the night,

and we're going to go and get in the cabs. Okay, no trouble. It's a guy of the family to acoy, and all. Like, so, we're going to go, but then at night, we're going to run

by the fence, the sun, but, now, the Chris of the Coff, he's beaute in the planchee. But, we're only, we're 16,

18-year, like, you, like, you, I'd say, that the coffee to be a lot of to be a beauty, and

then, but we, the attention, it'd be parted with the coff, like those, we can't We can't put on the We're going to cry

We're going to get We're going to reveye We're going to reveye the world Huh? It's... It's changed It's... It just changed the crime.

Well, yeah, At the coldly, you're a secastration, huh? You're a sequestration Like that, I'm on up And I'm just

There's a little There's a little girl in the chamber In the chamber The madame The Mary T'n'ta There was there.

I thought that the Mary had been there he wasn't there, he had just the mare and the little bit, like that's on the side of the car,

I'm going to be, I'm going to be able with a guy with a ball with a ball of baseball, you know, your little your little bit more,

we're sure not to be able to the rest of, madam, we're going to get in the cab. It's all right, she's all right,

she's all right, and all right, and I said, you've been over the car, and I do, I'll have a combination of the car,

hey, da-darnant, crow, the cop, the bra, I don't let's, she, he has the combination, and all,

he's two hours of the morning. She said, I can't call it. Call it, me. But, yeah, Chris, the fee, he had, like, realized that her mother, he had to be the one to say,

that's the same way, like, I realize, in the meantime, that other end of the foot of the field, they, but when they're across,

to the police, that's, well, I, I mean, I, I'm, I'm,

the time, that's the time, that's, if, Chris, Nattkin, of, there, me and the other. But, you,

we're taking able. We're not the getaway, to prepare there's nothing of that. Get away

an char of to fuel. Yeah, like a char of fuel, like that. You're going to have you

to have a car to play. Like, yeah, it's sure. We're not a talent at this moment

that, like, as a criminal. Like, so, we're, we're made to have to

have to get to I'm just, I'm a chance, we're There's been, there's a thing on which I've ever been

When you're talking to You know, I'm going to I'm going to I'm not, I don't, I'm not, I don't know the grain of criminal, in the sense that,

you boy, you're a part- But, you're doing, you're doing, a minute that's at least that you're not talking about but it's not

something that you had been in you, it had not a plan that I said, hey, if you ever that's far,

in life, I'm going to make, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going, cring in more. You know, I'm at a termine of Java

like, and I didn't, you know, I didn't have no other at a dose of criminal no more, at 18 years,

but we're at a cassette, you're not there, you know, you know, you're not that's justifi- but, you know,

to the influenceability, you're fragile psychologically at that, the alcohol, and you're frustrated because you're

and I'm always to have the money, and I'm, I'm used to have to have the money, there's,

the fear to the heart, the family, the fear, the fear of, the family of the this is a few, you know, and it's a nasty layer, you know, you're, you know, this, this is, you're, this, it's, you know, this, this is, this time, probably, probably, also traumatized of that. It's sure. It's a bit of

I mean, I look at, you know, at 6'220 livres, man, there's a guy that goulde that bade in my chamber, we'll certainly not rebeying your fill. Man, I'd say, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's a mistake legal. And, you know, I was going to docile.

At this time, that, yeah, I had no dossier criminal. And when I did that, and I've made it, and I've made up, and I've been to have been in a few months of prison. But I said, whyion don't, why I'm going to do, why I'm going to do. for the prison. For me, it was not a crime. Because I

I didn't know if it was a crime when you were in when you're doing you're doing you're doing if you're doing

to get into someone, I'm even for going to be able to why you're not, it's sure. It's a Chris,

and he said it's grave when he said it's great crime, but imagine the person when it can't

be traumatized and it's like it's like I'm trying to realize a bit more okay yeah

it's a carport I'm like I'm sure just nine more. So, so the grand slim of six-pied

that's 18, 19 who went in prison for the first Yeah, well, well, well, well, he was in the time

that they were the time of my process, no, even not, he'd have invited to,

it's so, my process was readly, he had to be at the prison to St. St.iazint,

and after then, I'm transferred to Waterloo. Waterloo, it was a prison that was It was all, it was a doorto, and there were no

no, there were no, there were no, there was a lot of supposed to push, on, you know, and to be able to doggle, and to get rid of the bayon, and it was really, it's fun to. It's farmed, today. It's not a prison. It's not a prison, it's a new mansion of transition at cell-over, you're not. Exactly, exactly, it's like that. You're a minimum, minimum, because, you know, you've got a lot,

first offence. Yeah, it's for those who had been to have been in and they're in a time, and they're

at the time that's what a six-year to be in a three, so you've made a third.

Yeah, I've made my chair. Yeah, a sort of that's not a good affair.

But, so, you know, it's not a prison, you know, you've got not in the

program, you, you've not there's not there, you're not in, you, there's just that's

in the federal to do, in the federal to say, so, so, You know, for you, you know, when you say, hey, I'm going to go to go, I'm in prison.

You know the cut in the same, you know, you know, you know, you're saying, you're saying, that's so, you've had a tabarnac. And, and, especially, I've met with the poor gun. When I was transferred at Waterloo, I've met, I've met, I've met, he's, she's, she's, that my mom, he's had done the same porgoin with me.

Oh, tabernac. Yeah. Like, someone who has you, did you, do you, put it to, St. Louis at St. John, you're in the door? Yeah, he said, I said, I'm at my father, and my mother, you've had done. I said, oh, it's

it's not quite. But at the end of the end, he's in a good term with his parents. I was trying. We're trying to find out of

in the past. I was glad and I'm I'm still in my friend with that and all the kid but he

had made some old double in the past and he was probably the more than I had almost he had almost

I'm to remand to turn you're sort, you say that's not a good affair. No. No, no, I don't know why they're going to start.

You know, you know, you're just you're a few years of course of, you're 18 years, influenced by the client, who's not the idea to deplair to someone. Like that, I'm out of many, it's sure, I'm six years after.

But, you know, when you're in the family of-ackeye, it's a family. It's funny. They want to be they've been, they've they've been, they've got to be. I'm going to my sors of prison. I had bended my chard. I had sent my son

to her own she had remonsted an apartment while I'm in prison like I'm in having to I'm going to

get to go to get to get a and then you did it a beautiful pattern yeah it's a good pattern and when I

I'm going to get to get in contact when I was in contact when I was getting to resorted and all you

I've seen to get used to see to go to But it's been the error. It's a lot of the cross, and then I'm at the cross, and I had started to have done to do the patent and all.

The coach? Yeah, exactly. And I had to come back that, I had to have a promise to drive, and there was a guy who had a great cross crisis of bell transam, I'm not too great,

with the U.S. but what sort of motor, I can't say, with Lake on the hood. And I said, hey, when you're going to try to me, and say,

yeah, I'm going to search, I'm going to search, I'll try to buy, Okay, no trouble. To go, I go to go to go ahead, I'm going to go ahead. I'm sorry, I'm going to try to have to try to try to try to defy it, and I thought

that would have been in the film. I'm going to have. Yeah, it's a charred propulsion that's a turk when you're not used to that's a bit of a bit of a cochenry at this time. Boom, John will Fosce, pung a poteo of telephone,

scrap the charles. The chaw with Marquez de Biret, the other in the end of, the madam had aroused, She's the she wanted to depose. She'll have been? Yeah, it's all right. You can't be markosier at my chum?

Now, I'm in the char, and she came to marconzee. Now, I'm in Christ, she'll be it. It's not bad. There's just crapped his chaw? She said, well, you? You're not young, no, no. I said, I'm arranging with. I'm going to me arrange with.

Like, she, she's sure, yeah, I'm, I'm going to be with. It's correct. Like, I deback. And, there, but, you know, I'll be there. You, shot. And I'm a char, I got into a photo of telephone, I think he's scrapped, and you can't, we'll put it to see, we'll be, like, like, like, that's a lot.

He had reculled at the cot. He had scrapped, the char. There, I said, I've got to pay your char, but how much do you're going to do? Well, I'm going to dole-d-up. It's there that it's all that it started. I got to dole-d-up, I can't support the idea to deplair to someone. And I had scrapped his own char, and I said, I've got to pay it. Like that.

I mean, he said, he was going to do. He was doing my chauffeur, and it's me who would have been in front. Like, I'm in... At Drummondville. At Drummondville, I've done to have done a lot of armory. They've been a coupable on seven.

And, uh, when I, I've been, I've been in, but, uh, I know that I was going to have for, uh, to be federal. You know, a thing, you know, you know, you know, the alcohol is in your life,

and it's something, when you've started, the patent with the Coke. I just said because it's not everyone who knows the term Is it, you know, is you coming in an for the fun

or it's a time? Yeah, it's at all Okay, it's that's not It's not been too long That's not It's not

Something to buy more To knowy my Demons To get a better To get a Yeah, you've got to

You've got To be The old-d-up Yeah, for remorse But it's not too long You pay a moatier

The fur, after that's it's It's a doctor, And then it's You're just You know, it's not It's not a long time, it's a It's been a day

And it's like, like, there's a few old-up per day, they've done a hold-up in a depanner, two-frey in 15 minutes, the same old-up,

eh? Excuse me, I'm just kidding, but it's like, you know, it's, you know, it's been past a bit of deboy,

you know, you know, it's for these sandwiches in a muntlete in a time to do you do something, I'm going to count the patent,

how it's happened, I went down, I went in the depender I'm in a hold-up and you know in the time

he could have to get a like that's not like a lot of like this is like it's like that yeah, it's like that's all

the kit and where I'm my chum he'd rest at the top right at least to the depenor

but it on the other end up pass from on the hallup pass from back on I'm gonna sit on

on the balcony I'm gonna sit on like you I'm gonna see the police arrive I see the property I'm gonna

the kid. And at a moment a minute, the proprietor, he said, the police, well, at least, he had not remorse at the can of taboo. He just vied at the case, in the canne of tabo, he had a reced by the week. I mean, I, I'm saying, so, the ballcon. And then, the police is on, the property, it's on, and I'm going to check,

that, I'm sure. Chris La Cagull, they, rent in a-nd-de-de-de-law, don't know, ban on twos! You're not, they're just, you're trying to, you? I'm just , you're just, you're trying to, but... Yeah, she has She said, she was like, but it's like to part of the time.

But, out of context, I think, you know, you know, you know, but I'm, but I'm sorry,

but, you know, I'm sure, I'm in the time, I'm like, yes, Chris, it's it's, it's like,

the same assit of a two-offing in a cas-d-ut. But, you know, I, come to,

the madam that you've reveye, the girl that she's made old-dopped two- times.

But in the In this time, I'd I'd say I'd say to I'm in fact that. I'm going to question, you know,

I'm going to ask, when you're to reponse to see, you're doing, do you know, do you know, there's times,

of the time of what you think to think, to be, yeah, yeah, sure, it's sure, it's clear, it's not been

evident, you know, to the party, they're in a market in the village, in the village, and, and, he could,

she'd be able to and I'm not there, but, it's so, it's so, it's so, It's a fool when you say,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd like that come to live to tell you to live at a time of time, I'm trying, if you're sitting sitting down, I'm already,

it's because you've changed to life, you've been evolued, you're re-inser, but, you know, it's a risk, that's, I'm not,

that's sure, and that's, it's, that's the course, when you're in that game, that, you can't, when you're in the

man, you're in bro, and in the joh, the day, you know, exactly, you don't, you know,

and even that's Fierre of your chot, but, you know, it's a Coup that you're in the process of changement, it's there that you realize, it's not a lot, so you say, this time, I see, I'm going to go

to federal. Yeah, it was, well, it's, it's sure I'm going to go to federal. At the beginning, a set in prison, at the end, we'll give me five years.

Between the moment where you're after your first, when, yeah, it's so, between the moment where you're

to do you're going to have, you to be liberated after three months, and that you to be arrested, is what the delay, at a pretty? Uh, it's... 16, Joe, I think, 16, 20 years?

Okay, total, I thought 16 years, okay, so you, you're able to, 16 days, yeah, liberate, under condition, 16 days later,

you're not, you're not, no, no, to be able to, I'm going to, I'm glad to, I'm sorry, I'm asking,

I'm saying, Chris. They were going to I'm going to, I'm, I return in the prison of St.

St. I'm in the time of the court, and all the court, and when I had had been my sentence

to five years, they were to be a partene, it was, it was, I'm going to, in the time,

in the time, to be transferred to be transferred to the center to be federal, like that, there,

I've been to get a little more the chienne. You know, you know, you know, you know,

you're going to open, with Two and a plus. You can't go to go to depend on the other.

No, no, you can't go to go to go to a lot of to be

to be in the chien and then there's there's there's there that you're like

you're like to know to get and you get to pass two months at about

about about I've never really had really a problem to you know, I'm still

that's a person who respect to all over all the whole world and that he

comes not to shit, and it's set it there. Like that, you know, I like to try, man. You know, Reg. The wing, you see,

and you see, and you do you do you, do you do? You do it. Exactly, exactly. Like that, I'm remorse

to the Atler. O'Latler in the time, he was penitentiary, for the mall, for the U. Yeah. It's a federal masculine,

yeah. Like that. I'm remorse, yeah. It's a durie, I rest there in, probably, in, probably,

two years, two years, it's a lot, it's a lot of time. A bit too, huh. A bit too, the first three of me, I could say

that I'm not out of my cellul. I'd go get into my cellul, I'd rent in my cellul, when it's all the time to

go to be in the day of the can't I'd return to my cellul. I'm impiqued not with person. You'd be the most low-profile

possible. If I exist not, he me won't, he'd be able to get through to my cellul. Exactly.

Like, like, I'm just, there's a guy that you've just at all the guy, you can out of your cellul

you're inquette not, we're in the world cool and we're in quite quite I'm sorry I'm out of

my cellul I'm trying to go to get to get in and I'm trained. And, you know, I was constant in my

entranement like that the world we saw a little like a I'm sure, you know,

I'm sure after that like, I've made some of the world of the world of

like that like that. Like that, I see, you know, I've seen, you know, I've seen,

you know, I've seen, you know, the heroine, I've seen, all the sorts of of drugs, I've had,

I've ever really seen really, all these drugs, uh, and I, and I'm in

cause of the world, you know, I'd, don't, you know, I'm not a ,

I'm not a gross consummater, in prison. But, but, that, it's so, it's,

there, I, , you're, In prison, you're that's a You know, the Bawson you know,

the box don't I'm not too. No, but, you know, I'm not gonna a baboche again, like so I'm not a boh

the same affair that was a little P.O.0. to, you know, it's true, malgris that there's a

end updette in fuming in prison, yeah, at the $0. Yeah, at 50

$0. $50 to pay bit, it's been like, well, I,

but, I, by, I, And, you know, I've used to have fumed my joint by my little bit of my night, and then my little bit of my time.

I mean, I grew up, you know, I'm in my cellul. It's a manned to dorm, and I'm in to doorme, and I'm not really. You know, I'm not a good consummator. So, you've become like an element of confidence for the guys, consume not too,

make not too of a bit, a good, you're a good, you're a good type for, to be occupy the traffic. Well, yeah, because in general, the people who gire the traffic in it's not a tiny clin-clin, when you run in

it's because you're affliated with the world who's present. Yeah, it's that, you know, at the beginning, I didn't know, with who I

knew, you know, I, you know, the guy who had had a lot of, I said, he had a life for two

murder, and he's, an ancient guy of the papaya in the time, and it's he was he left,

but at the line, it's he was he had freemed all the reason, it's he

that he he made at And then it's there that crime those who transferrares with me because they've joled the pen in the morning and they're going to search in my cellul and then I'm interested, Jack Peltier, the mom-or-regged, the Heson-Jose,

who are all right now, in the fog. At the beginning, we all right, the police of the prison, the security preventive. Like, they're saying, you, Pierre, do you get to get to something to do you,

or you're going to go to Nogona? I'm going to, I'm going to, I mean, I said. I've farmed my gull. I'm floured my eye. I'm glad to have formed because, you know, I'm not a guy who's rube say a yearl by the end upreming of others and try to try to have more time possible.

And then you're trying to do. And then you're going to have not even to do time in cashet because you'd have frowned, you know. Yeah, exactly and all. You know, like, I'm back in the furgoner, and I'm remorse at one of the other than a gunner. So, you pass from a minimum, medium, to... One medium, for substance, traffic. I had 17 rapporteur, against me.

that you know who we'd and that's he had not the money you know, you're doing to do you

because all you know, you know, that's a crisis of in the pocket, that works with with the packets

there's, if you know, if you do with the money, it's, that's a question, well,

yeah, it's a, it's a rule, uh, like that, um, yeah,

I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm just, I'm gonna in the foregom and, and I think, I think,

15 person to transfer it in the same time, When you were to run down to Cona, they've been liberated a wing to complete for us. So at all the moment, we're all the same world

in the wing. But, you know, the majority of the world that were all had all over the corner there, I was the only that had never really

been there and, when you enter to Dona Cona, you sense the pressure, it's not a penitentiary like the other, it's really,

it's something. It's a good 20thens, Yeah, it's that, and it's a lot, you know, you know, you know, you're going to say, you know, yeah, it's a lot of, you know, it's a collo. And then, finally. Well, at least, well, at least,

we've got, gone to, we're going to, that's a plamondon, that there had to put these assyettes for all the people, 15 assiates of salmon, with these little pots, and all the kit, and me, to give us to everyone, that, you know, it's, you know,

it's a, you know, it's a, you know, it's a, you know, it's a, you know, We've been acayee. It's a well- It's all right. But so, who know who know,

it's someone in the middle of the criminalized Quebec. Googleed Coloss Plamondon. Yeah,

he's on crazy and all their story and stuff. I'm in contact in this

moment, who's maybe maybe a day, we'll see. Yeah. But,

no, it's so, so, so, All right. All right, all right, and, you know, I'm able to... But, you know, I'm able to subvening to my business, you know, you can't even, you know,

to do it, Rona Gona. Right, no. Uh, eh? The pen, he appertain to someone, uh, like, if you, you can't, you... You know, and then, you're... You know, and then, you're... You know, it's not evident, no more, uh? Huh?

It's not even, and if you're in front, but I'm not sure that you can't do it can't do the banning as if you want to do the baboche. It's like I was trying to have to do the baboche. to siti and all the kit, I've done it's got to do through the trouble. Because when he's in the poign to find

the baboche in the room, with a part of privilege, you know, you don't have to have got to courant, you've got to your cellul,

you read it's the only and you look when he's got to like that. Like that, you're a little hour of,

you have 10 minutes of a douche and one hour of march per day. Do you do the visit? Yeah. My sir.

My sir, he'd not to be a visit normal, more, because, you know, a visit normal, it was a tell

to tell, he'd be able to a roulette. Okay. Yeah, uh, he'd be in a roulette,

and it's cool. There's a family, like, the people, you know, when we're talking to talk about,

you know, the conjoin or the epos, that's, it's not, it's not, no, no,

no, no, my sors, I had been back, you know, I'd enter at 18 in 18,

a bit, a bit, a little... Yeah, but he passed the few weeks, he passed the first of the time,

I had my room, I had my chambed in a room, and there's a little a fridge, you command

your own your own to get in a new and then you get to get, but you're to get it,

you put that to the fridge so you're so you're being... My, my sister my, my

my son, my my son, the girl Viz, that's a man that I'm in a man that I'm in car

already, that's I've been I've been The gross The grovezinoviz. The great viz. The big viz.

Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah. The gross viz. It's, it's not my sister and of him, I'd have

had been a lot more dire, my time. It's those who've got a lot of monetary, uh,

at the level, uh, to be, to be, to be present, you know, my ch'am, the girl,

I, I can let the, I'll let's, I'll let's, you know, a moment of the when you're in, when you're

when you're in prison, you see, it's an equilibrium who are resty, and those who are the part of the time,

the other that you think these chums of the chums of consumption, they all they're all parties.

The fact that you run for the first time you're not a criminal you, you've made

a mal vire to have to be to tap his do almost there,

you come in a pattern to consumption, bang, but, but, there,

to be in prison entoured of the very gross criminal to be in the traffic

with the gross criminal has been to have to find to do the poison, so you're to find out, you're doing

a lot, you're a criminal Yeah. Is it, is a question in fact? Is, is, is,

is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, when you start of this shift that

that I imagine with the alley, and, have been to do you to have gone,

to be, you don't, you don't, you, you don't, not, not, not,

not, not, not, no, it's sure, When I was not long, when I got onto, it was kept,

when I got to go ahead, it was like two years of sentence, but after at Donah Cona, he'd restate like a one

of a sentence, he'd have invited at Coenville. They're on midium. But, now, at Coen'sville,

it's a penitentiase to have a direct machine, in these years. And I'm, and I'm, and I'm,

and I'm, and I'm, I'm, well, I'm, I'm going to because my seurs

had to, You're trying to take a target in the do? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's clear. The first day that I was out of course, I was made, through all the guy,

hey, you're at least $0.2.40, you know, yeah? He said, you don't know that it's a wrecked machine, sit? Well, yeah, I'll tell you, but, I'm going to do you

want to do you, go, and you're going to see this out of the whole-d-up for the traffic of drugs, yeah, my, well, we'll be to see your rec, no, I'd do it,

and they've been, and they've been, and they're, they're, I'm, you're not implicated of the motor. It was a guard in this time

that. Without that you had trafficked under the that's that's not that.

That's that I'm that I'm that's I'm not not too to know I'm talking.

I'm back I'm back to that's a long like my question, but when

you're with change of life or you know, or you start with I'm

I'm a criminal my life my life that and I this point that

when I I'm after a after a year at Coenville that that I'm

to have fieled a lot of a lot of their time, they've seen, they've seen, that I'm that's

that I'm at a type of a cland, but the recmachines they've seen they've seen, they've seen, you know,

you've finished your with us over, well, you know, when I'm sure that that in my

head, I'm a badger. Uh, your choice was made, you know, you know,

it's weird to say your choice, but because you're a choice to sort, you say, okay,

I'm replaced, it's finished, I'm re-refined a year, I'm re-referial to work at a whatever, or, you know,

or if you're not, that's not that I'm going to to work with a f f-k, it's, I'm going to

voled the Pfk. And then I 've been to say, and it's plain to say and again. You're going

to have to the PFK who's on, like, yeah, but, yeah, but,

I've been the last, I've had to I've been I've had to and I'm to see, you know,

If you say, yes, I'm traumatized, the two persons who were on but, you know, I knew how to do you, I'd not just search the guys, that I'd just search the guys, that I'd have, and all the rest of the day, that's the way, that's true, I'd have been used to cash,

time to find some of my gang de tabarned. And I was, I'd pay, I'd, I'd have passed for five years to make the affair. I'd, you know, I'd, you'd, you'd, I'd say, you'd, I'd say, you'd, I'd have passed for my vengeance.

You're, you maintained up when you're out of your first federal? You said, I started with a bandy, but, you know, rock machine, is it like implanted in the traffic also, or you're returned, pattern, hold up? Hold up, up, pattern, old. Facil, I want, to buy, bang, give me your cash, I part. Exactly. And then, this point, this time, I was going to have farmed in a chamber of vidage, because

I used to I was informed in the chamber for not that you know, that's not to be able to get to be

but the part of the time the chamber had always been born by the interior and by the exterior had not been able like that

while I was in trying to all my kit but they they're out of it's changed I'd like run in the dent

in the but you but you know to post of police when they they've been they've been

on those individuals potential for the, you know, when they've they've been able to, well, it's him, yeah, it's like, when you're,

you're going to hold up, you're talking to, you're doing on the console like, or the fact that you're more, more consumed for five years?

I was going to go to my seor, and, you know, it's not an environment of quaver for someone who's to start

to make the part of the person, we're not going to not in the details, your seurs, have been in their

in-geau of life, it's their life, it's sure you you're saying it's their thing, it's their work, but,

they're not in a milieu of a child to know, no, we're going to just to understand the

way, so you're to get in an environment, not the not the place for a in a lot.

Not, not, not, not at all, maybe the first month, you know, the first month of me

maybe, maybe, you know, but, you know, I'm saying, but, you're talking,

I'm, I'd be, but you'd to my my business to be in a bad news,

I'm doing, I'm doing to get to get to get to the money, like, it's like

in the country, he's there's a lot of Kentucky, like I'm so,

but I'm after, they're there's over, there's a guy that's in the box,

he's, he'd not long with 10, there's there's a yeah, he's a

, there's a grain, he's there's there's and the yeah, and the

it's, it's clear, but it's sense, well, yeah, so it's right? So it's true. It's a lot. It's a lot. In alcohol, in pot, and in

feet. Yeah, exactly. Not too long. Two years after, they never put in. So, it's... It's not... It's a re-renged.

But, yeah, I'm re-att-and-a-old, I'm arm-me, and, uh, after that, they're relayed, with the Kentucky and all. Like, so...

I've rested two months two months, I repugned five years. So, then... So, you point, three, or me, you saw, six days, You're playing five

You start two, I'll put you five years. Yeah, like a single year. A nice of beautiful pattern. You're at a time. You've had the occasion to develop

in time as an adult in as time human. Yeah. You know, I don't if you're not my irony, in what I'm sarcasm because

I, what's we've always said, it's the day that you when you're the person who's the person

who is in the sense, you've not, you've got to be able to have been to return at

18, so 10 years, 10 years. Yeah, it's that's a dangerous a little, because you're not going to you know,

you get in the fact, there's a lot, yeah, maybe, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm trying to

have won't five years, but I'm , you know, we're talking on the recidivism, so, you know,

you've got got to put more on the crayon? Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm sure, I'm,

I'm sure, you're, you're gonna you're, you're gonna coupable, you, you're not,

you, the problem. And, you know, I had not the money for the bat, not even, you know, I'm with the law legal, and I'm more, you have, you have more, you

have more than, to rest aligate, probably the reason for the reason for you have had been to be a five, 10, you know, to do that, you know,

to that's, you know, that's the whole, that's the first time in return in prison, that's, you're to be sure? Yeah. My friends

were all right. Well, you know, you know, you're going to say, you're going to , you're on the young adult, and your

, your, your debut of your adult, where you create in time it's there. Yeah. And, you know,

the rock machine, in this penitancy, I'm, I'm tattooed the pomp like that,

when I start to be new, Nelson Parnandez, the brodrette of Salvatore Casetta, he was there, and he

was in my wing, De De De De De Zormo, the president of Palmer, he was there, he was in my wing, like that,

when I start Tote T'O. Hey, Pompon! T, you know, your TV, you have some cigarettes, have a gram of hash in a a gift of, and then you came to

their day, they've been to say, they're not obligue to me to say, but what's you mean, it's what the pompon? It's my surname.

Ah. Yeah, it's my surname, Nelson Pernandez a mannedne, a cause of Pompon, it's, in the 2.40,

at Dono Kona, there had a guy who had tried to aid desormo, he had tried he'd he'd have tried

even, and he He's called Pompon. His own name. His own name. At a moment of a prospect at Nelson, the Indian, he'd say, hey, Pompon!

Hey, the Indian, they'll call me not the man, Gris, they're going to batte to encro, if they're going to be and say, oh, but you're saying, I'm not that,

but sometimes, a surname when you don't know, when you do it's he he'll want. Oh, no, no, you know, balloon,

the gros, you know, the song, you're like, clearly spotway he'll be the choice, that's, it's bad,

my father, I'm called Balloon. Well, it's because it's a surname of someone who's by the same, but in the case. But, uh...

Like that, a minute, Nelson, he said, uh, he said, Cream, you do you do

do your tattoo? I'm gonna tell you, you know, he's a guy who made a tattoo and I let tattooed on the elbow,

uh, so, so, you're rent, very in your salient. Yeah, and,

you know, I'm, you know, I'm always um, when you did that too, you did,

You know, at 1715 livres, 180 livres, I'm a machine. I did the box with the mouche, surnomed the moosh. It was a tourer-a-gauge in the time. He's still in a life, I think. I'm not sure. But he had been champion Canadian amateur. He had the gown d'Orie. He had already had the gansdorre.

Like that, it's he was he entrained in prison. And when there were these little combos to reddle with the Nesson, hey, it's a guy with the gand-dorre, you, my pompon. Well, it's a night, but it's all the way that we'll see, it's like, I had a little combat of red-dly

with an other person until I'm trying to I realize that it's a cause that the other, for he'll have to give me who he don't. It's not a

he used, he used, he used, the convoy, like, Chris, did you box, you, finally? Oh, it's not, perhaps,

the combat amical, no more, you know, it's, like that, I, I've done, I'm done,

it's, I'm done, But, you know, I'm a guy who's entraned a lot of, you know, I was in a community of 15. No, that I'm going too fast. Okay. Yeah, I'm back. You're going to stop in back that I'm back.

There's a question that I want to ask you, because, there's all that. In my angle of periferous, there, there's a young female who is there, on your two men, you have, Judith and Jeffrey. Yeah. Is it arrive after, you have, you? Yeah, okay, perfect.

I just because I wanted just to know, it was where, it was a few that's the yeah, it's a pre-a-mom, so I'm in,

so you're at a second time, the time, they're still there, and they're still there, you're content, almost to go to

get to go ahead. The life is more than in than that, finally. Ah, I guess that way. You consume more

in the end in a bit, yeah, I'm sorry, you're doing to get chum, exactly, the life is belle, yeah,

yeah, the view is yeah, the life is all the way, exactly, in the rest, in the flower of in the age

but it's a thing that's a thing It's a part of It's I'm overbeye I'm overbe I'm sorry

I'm in my second everything everything all right all the rock at a moment

at a sentence that they they're transferred to he's he quit Coen deville

for to be to be to be and and Nelson me pose

the question I'm know Pierre what's you do you you know

you he said And you know that if you see you know you're automatically affiliated with us you're affixed

yeah yeah, it's an it's an attempt in the front yeah, exactly, like that's

what you do? Manette had the cancer and I said I said, I said, if you'd not have a

cancer, then I think that I'd say sure and certain but because you

have the cancer and we know, we know we're not that you don't

that you're not I think I'd say I'd have been You'd have to be able to If he'd have to choose If he'd say, he'd be there If he'd be able to put on the end

On the end of the Lowe Denison, you know, it's not clear? Yeah, it's a, it's a bit of course. I know that with Lennel I'm, look, it's the breadrette of Salvatore, there, there were Joe Vann, at the time, at the point of Rock Machine Yeah, on the other day,

Rock Machine, there had his own friend, Joe Van, at Salvatore, that's been a bit more than Nelson, but, you know, Nelson, he was in top to remember in a reg,

you know, like that, you'd be able to certainly that's that would have in life, but, but it's all that

had been a part of, that's the that my detlick has come out. It's it's a

one of your most reproves so, it's the cancer, that's the one of the

first time of your one of the first of It's related with the same Malady, you know, it's like, Chris, we don't want this malady there to person, but it's ironic to do if, you know, it's the proof

that you're not all right, because if you had not had been the cancer, my son, let's go, me, I'm going, I'm going, you know, it's not, you know, it's like, you know, I'm like,

maybe, you're, I'm, you know, the religion focal, but, there's, like, there's, like, there's a link, there's, there's, so, so, so, it's, it's, so, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

but for me, in my head, the cancer of your mother, you know, I'd have the impression that it's a matter of this love that has been a minute that, Chris, you've made a little a good choice. Yeah. You know, I like, I love these things, I'm saying, Chris, there are these things we're going to be. And then, you know, the best of my life that I've been doing. If you're not doing this, we're trying to talk to me,

and then, you're saying, yeah. You'd be, so, you're, sort of mor. In prison, a life, or more. Or in a room, somewhere. I'd be more or in prison You'd have not Just the pinches

That'd have All right All right I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna No, no, no,

but it's a But it's a There's a There's a No, no, not, pantout, pant out of

You'd have been Pant-Toot Yeah, I'd be able today, that's sure to have made this

choice that Like that It's like It's like that's been my pre-de-click that I'm

really That I'm that And then, and then, and my my best my friends

he were there, I'm going to get in Chambot, yeah, I've got again,

the respect in prison and all the kit, that's when they're there's many of

there were many people, they were in the people, and the people, and the

team, like, so, I'm, I'm present as a representant of block, I'm,

I'm in the point of D'E, like, so, it's the detunue who

who want, who we're, we're two, we're two who who's presented

as a presentent, and then the idea it's me who are voted for being the

representative to be the project, and I had a bad job I'd do you, I'd

have a great, I was a question, I was paid to me train the morning,

payed to me and I could go to be to get to the same

in the thing, like that's I'm trying to the afternoon, I'd make an

afternoon, and the night by the meeting or. Yeah, but a representant, I'd say, it's not just, I representant now,

we're talking about, and it's the same life. It was like, you readdly the problems between the detenue or an guardian and a detenue.

You know, it's happened to a moment of day that at Noel, there's two wing that would not return. They're on

the group party and all the kit, two wing who'd be not return not return in their wing, yeah, in their cellul.

Yeah, in their cellul. Yeah, they had a show in their wing, but he would not return in the cellul.

He would continue to have to be in the wing, the port to arm, and all the kit, he didn't want to start that to get into the wing, but he would not get into the cellul. He'd be at a moment of that. He'd be, oh, man, I'm going to control.

I'm going to go to control. Yeah, but the potential, yeah, the two wing won't be able to rentry on the gross bros. Now, it's like I'm trying in line of course. I'm going to run down wings.

All right, yeah, it's the party, not, yeah, but, yeah, crime, perhaps, we're going to runn't, damn with, me, I'm going to say, I know, I see

that you can't It's your It's your choice But I'm going to You know, I'm going to Let's go retry This one They're going to buy

Manker Dismuchin and You'll marry these sandwiches During a month Yeah, you It's deadlock Well, you're going to You're going to buy

Yeah, you're doing You know, like Like that, who They've decided to Get back To see, it's a Yeah, Because if it's a

Goddard Yeah, because if it's a Garde, there's not Aardt can't There's not a I imagine, no, not all. It's that. If they're out, they're

certainly, it's the team, like, they cast, and tack, tack, and we're talking about, and we're going to, they're not, I can't buy, two, three,

four, just the same with their chemise. They're going to, they're going to be macrimogine, and, but, but this

part that, is that, is that, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, bit,

to have a certain responsibility, all that, a certain, a certain, you know, a certain, a moment, the guardians also,

you know, you know, to be able to , you know, to do you know, adequate. Excuse me,

I'm, you're sure, you know, adequately, when you're, when you know, it's,

it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, the people, to be, , you know,

yeah, exactly, that, that, , you know, there, a moment of a,

, you know, and, you know, I'm, you're in a processist, and all, to,

the re-obitation, you, I started to make some meetings over I'm at all I'm at I'm at all

it's a suit of board of it's like it's like it's like I'm in a sentence like that

I'm trying to make sure to make sure I'm at I'm not a shot he returned again after

six years and you're it's a yeah there's a yeah the fact that you're not over

but what what's you know when you when you're when you're when you're quite

you're quite content to get you're quite you're I'm quite content to return and when you

when you're on the time you're to be able to it's like, it's there's a time there's a little that's just you

who's just you do, well, I'm talking, say, I'm saying, I'm going to go, I recommend an

hold-up, but now it's 15-year to 10 to 15-year 10 to 15-year to happen. Like that,

if I do this move that, it's finished my life will be of the prison all my

my life. Yeah, Chris has been quite quite a bit for that. Yeah, it's going to be in the prison all

my life, it's sure, like I'm to pose the question, I've got to do you do you have to

a criminal where I'm going to be and a minute and and the you're doing

so you meeting AA and you work you're working you work

yeah, yeah, I'm I'm doing I'm there's there's that I'm

face to all I'm because I say six months before to be

liberate, to do you have done a therapy at the exterior. Like that I don't know to get to

the rest of all the time, and I consume really not, and I'm going to do a therapy

at the exterior. I'll get after my therapy, it's probably two months at my

sentence, he's done these codes of the same time, but there me make crissed

my cellul by the other who's presented to me, to be representing to be presentant

to the black, he's a gelo and he I think that I'm a friend of course that Chris, I'm doing sure

in the code. Chris, we're not sure to be so much to be able to be people in a federal, but Chris, I had made a

whole time like, there's a time, and there's a therapy that I've got put up put up course,

I'm doing, and then I return in prison, yeah, I imagine just at the point to the moment where you've

seen the don't see the other guys Archambo and that's there's a chameinement you know,

I mean, you're saying, you're saying, you're prove, But he criss the fire in your cellul? Well, yeah, he criss the fire in my cellul. And, yeah, but I'm trying to eat at a cafeteria.

There's a guy who says, hey, pomper, your cellul is, in the fire. But, then, you know, I'm sorry. But, yeah, my, don't, you. I'm sorry with my job. Man, yeah, tabarned. With the cellul et al-a-t, the screw, are in trying to, with the instinctive, and all the kit.

And then, but, yeah, but there, there's a guy who passed to me to say to you, to say, allie Kendrault, he said, I'm going to say that I'm afraid of course I'm going to see you see, it's all right and all the kit

it's a crissed that he me criss in the truce, there's a criss in the trough and he'd say it's for your and your security hey

my security you're gonna chie, it's more the security of the other it's more the security of the other but there at the fact of

you know the community to detenue who's all he's all they're gonna see you're you'll get

you're gonna start a pompon of the truce who's who has one, that's a fair to be in the truce and the other, you know what? They've been saying, they've made to promise

that he'll arrive at to a guy, to two more that's a far if he arrives to what, a transfer of a new way of a

carna. Like that, I'm worried or not, nor by someone of someone, or not. Yeah,

that's just, because, to be sure to be there to be sure, because if there has a certain who'd

to get to that's a lot, that's not over, that's not, it's just, that, it's just, that,

it's just, that, and I'm out of I'm sorry to I'm trying to you're talking about because if you

me say you're I'm doing, you know, I'm not a guy who's not not a guy who not a crime in the sense

that, but yes it's armed to the point it's considered like a crime violent,

but just in the shot that that if you if you had to be to get to him

you'd there may yeah yeah there's but if you had to

certain pattern that had, Is the violent, you know, there's there's a bit of the fact that you're in prison? It's weird. The fact is, I'm going to be in the prison.

No, no, I'm not. There's no, I'm not. There's a step that. There's a time. There's a time that you do in prison. It's like that's going to be able to do. It's all right. You know, you've had to be an occasion,

and it's not necessarily that you're an guy extremely violent, but if you had to use, if you had to use the violence, you were able to follow. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's direct that. And, and, yeah, but I'm,

but I'm not violent. I'm not the guy who will go to go to go to You're not going to Not put on top On top of all If you're in front of course You're doing, you're going to

And then say, And the world It's always You know, I'm I'm not as peckxue And I'm not Of course Of everyone, you know,

I'm not sure, I'm I'm not sure, I'm in prison, I'm not I'm at the school, Yeah, no, But Chris, even at the school when you're

Yeah, it's not Yeah, it's just that it's a other Yeah, yeah, Exactly, but, But, yeah, And then after that, in certain to do that,

he'd be invited in a maison in Greenby. Because after the first time that's been

about the first house of transition? Yeah, the first a new to be the second,

and it's a lot of people who are people who are much more than the prison and I think you're

saying, and it's not been a bad idea the house of your first, your

my At your my son, it would be to go It's not not quite not quite a bad for a

because it's a structure to respect to, yeah, yeah, my chum, you're not too long than,

not too that's too. But I'm up to you're on to get to the job I'm at

time as you're in the time of the time, I had finished my second, I'm in five, in prison,

and all the kit, like that, when I'm entering in a maison to transition, it was to

I went through Cs ESA and all right. My house of transitia is in a grandb and I was working in a small station service like pompous. But, uh, I saw, you know, I'm a test of urine, uh,

but now, I've chewed my test of urine. It's more easy not consuming in prison than that. Well, yeah, exactly. You know, there are there's a club of dancers there's, like,

like, the pattern, it, it's not too long, and, um, my test of urine, he was positive, and the guy of the I said, I said, hey, my head of urine, he had to be he worked at a night, he's too positive, he'll be able to be in the

live. He'd say, well, hey, Pierre, not you'll say, I'm sorry, but, I'm trying to work. But I'm, I'm trying to travel, and I'm trying to turn, there. You see, I'm going to runoff, and I return in the prison tomorrow. There, man, remorse the money in the car, in the case where I've had, remorse, a ticket to clue, boop, okay, see, this charl, I'm going with. Like, I decryse, with the char, and I'm going to show

my son. All the good mindset that you had just to hear of the time to say,

yeah, it's easy in in a bit, you know, you know, you know, you know,

to be to be far when you know, yeah, it's a fool, it's

fun, you're often more tough than to do do you, when you

don't, when you're not, you're, when you're, so, so, At a moment

of a minute after two weeks, I received a call at GRC at my my son my son

repose Yeah, because it's prison federal, so it's a yeah, but he

called to five, Cairnsnsia, celsius, please, my son has been my son,

my son he said, he said, he said, you're at your at your question,

we're at what's what's what's he says, he said, you'll leave to

we, or we're to you're you're You know, there's a coquette that's there in the chamber

with me and take it. Well, come to get me to get me and get to be the good, I'm going to give me to do you have to turn the ball

like that's like that's, like you know they're meant gentlemen, you know, they've been not put the menot

before to get to the car, you've opened the door, they've said, they're saying, yeah,

they're pre'n't yeah, I did, you know, not, you know, not to sit, just, man,

we're going to , you know, we're trying to, you know, to try, to come up to the federal at Coinsville.

Is it they're up with other charn? Yeah. Because you've done with an car,

and evasion. I was a time to come to my sentence. And you're not, you've not

on the new process in the phone? Yeah, it's been consecutive. Okay. Yeah, it's a

concurrent to my sentence. Like that, you know, it was a thing, it was a

thing to have a thing, like, I'd finish this year that, and it

And it's like in a sentence as a view it's a final way, so finally, what I said that's the

thing that's probably been before the first because it has not been well in the business for you know,

no, no, no, no, no, no, and I, I've finished by my

family, I've done, you've had your , you've, your chiff, your whole,

your chift, complete. And then when I, I got got to , my chift

complete, I've got to go, my son, my son, my son, my son, you're going to

comeoneeuse in this time like that you're in your mom to your wife, my sister's gemal

you know, she'd be playing a because we're talking about, because we're talking about your son

because of the same thing, you're in a lot of course, there's been a lot of, you know, there's not person who can't I've got a job I've got a

I'm a I'm a long as a yeah, it's a question, it's a I'm talking,

I'm gonna I'm gonna do you know, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna you can't you can't

the end up and the yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna with a place yeah, I'm gonna

a time I'm gonna at a time I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

and a group totally good, and they're it's gonna he'd chate my contract

to the agency to be in for me to have to be able to pay you're in because you're going to be paid

to pay you're not a lot of like that's like that's like that the soff is where there in?

At this moment that I'd be not I'd I'd have had already to be really even

again at cause that I had already to buy but there I've been like

I've been the mother of my of my at this moment that, but she

had to Drummondville. And his brother, who was one of my of my

family, that he had to be in that it's that I had to start to get to

get to her, it's a good thing, I've never knew the love,

you know, I've had gone to you're not, you're not you're sure, but you're saying,

you're not, you're not, you're you search Nipperagui, You know, she's a fine, well, yeah, she's

a scourde, danceuse in these moments but there, but I've really, you know, a girl

who's not a scott, who's, who's not a young little girl and all the kid,

and I'm decided to go to go, and I'm my job, and I'm going to have

to resty to them, but at a lot it's not been easy, it's not been

a lot, I, I've got I've got a affair, if I've I want to turn in prison,

you have to work. If I'm not if I'm remit to do a crime. The kid of 15, 16, whatever, who's, he goes to school

and he's about the 35-hour to work, he's not, he'd have to be doing the time who's the time that's

time that's that. Yeah, I've got to work, if I'm in prison, it's like,

net and prece. Like that, I've got to I've got to trafficed, I'll re- I've got to traffic

before the speed, the van of the cove, and... I'm Ponged. I'm Ponged. I'm putting... My children, my friends are not in the world,

again. I'm afraid. I'm Pongue. I'm a 40th of a few. It's still. It's not so few. Possession 5. I'm not a lot.

I'm going to be... Then, then, after that, me, and my blonde... I'll ask you. You're asking, he'd offer 40-Jos of a Fentonement, you have 10 years in the car, you feel not like,

like, Chris... Go, me, one-shot, call-law, me, my... the end of the same- No, no, I'm not the 80 days of a few years

because she, she had been a little and she had had to do it if they'd get to be there for the first

thing, you're something that's that's a that's not at the exterior, in the door to make a sentence to three

months and after it's finished no, I prefer to find family. Hey, but it's what for a guy

who has conued do, you know, You're in a good time, federal, you're in a stint of bullpence, these matelot, a lot, with the world. You're used to do you

have to have a chip, so that's just anybody who, that's got to be to go to Mordeaux, I'd say, these prisons, you know,

it's not paid, it was in the cell of visit, and I'd revert the night of the night. Okay, you'd not even there. They'd dormant even

there. Because you know, I know, I mean, I'd know the time who'd say, I'd say, He's ready to arrive at the most time. You know, if you're going to be at 8-hour, it's at 7-hour, 58.

Because a fair time, one-on-two, it's like, hey, it's blind. It's at all right. Yeah, well, he says it, at a moment of a day, I don't know. I've been quite a lot, there's been a lot of days. There's been a lot of course. Yeah, but then, yeah, the final day, after time, at home to stay. Exactly.

Like, I've done my quarter, after this 80th year, there, it's been like with the mayor of my parents, that I'd have been, even I haven't even. I had not my my own I'd have to I'm at the way,

if you want to go to be going to be able to start, it's not going to be able to save. Yeah, it's sure.

Like that, it's like, it's like I'm going to be in a foundry in Belgium at Drummondville. Okay.

I've been two years. And it's there that my wife had been to the world. It's the

first. It's been the first, yeah. The Belle Judite that we're in the studio. Yeah.

And, and, uh, at all, Stettlernern't had been precise that I'd return to

never in prison. It's what? Devene for someone who, you know,

the poor to have been with your really, it's not been long, and

the figure that's not a thing that's you're doing a pair? With the genes that you,

with the I'm, I'm going to I'm the pair, and I'm going to be the pair, that I would have as a father. Because when we have a parkour that we have two options. So, we're repete what we know, or if we're saying, tabarnac, I'm going to be the opposite. Yeah, I mean, I'd want to be the opposite.

But, yeah, but they're going to be opposed to the opposite, and be able to do it. Yeah, but I think I'll have it. No, no, I'm going to put a spot, you, it's just that, you know, often, we have a beau-wloire, you're like, like, you're not returning in prison, and, finally, he returned the two. No, it's sure. but, I'm

at the that's changed really, I know, I know that the love that I'm for my

parents, it's really of the love I'm going to do you do with my family,

and then and then I've changed, and it was more of a story of crime, my

consumption and all really to have diminished at after to be

to and all, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not not to not to

not continue to continue to work, yes, I've had different jobs,

At the beginning, I was I was trying a DEP like a mechanician of vehicle, Lowe, I went to to work at bus Gerardin at

Drummondville. I've been there for a good moment. After that, my guy, he's been in to the world, and I'm going to

a man of my parents. It's not been easy to let's have been to make sure, by example,

with my dossier, uh, it had to have been a letter to the insurance, it was

who P. P.A. St.R. It's, who to see, he's to know how they can't in 10 years, for he can't really be sure I'm sure. I've written a good letter.

Because, it's a lot. Because, you know, to buy a house, it's a thing facile. Yeah. To be, and then, even, with a dossier, it's already not evident. Yeah. Lassure, you, so often. And then, you say, hey, Chris, it's cool.

We pass at the bank, we're more than you and you're going to pay with your dossier, and then you say, hey, you're madame, I'm going to pay money to pay them in the money, but not the assurances because he pays far on the crayon in the stik. Oh, yeah. But, you know, it's all the team.

You know, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, 12 years, 12 years, 12 years. You know, it's sure that it's terminated, it's, it's a small terminated, but, you know, if it's, if we'd have continued ensemble, you know, it's sure that a relationship, too, it's often, it's termine, well. When it's, it's termine, in general, it's rare that. It's, it's true.

And, is, when you're 12, or is that, when you're talking, my consumption, we're a minute, so, you're a guy, to take a little beer, and then it's correct? Yeah. You're capable of three, four beers, and then you're trying to three, four, that's it. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, I'd, you know, I'd part to the barrage

a night of my son, you know, we'd like, we'd like, and then, by a little line, you know, it's a good when we're doing, you know, like, so, yeah. Like, you? Do you know, I'm trying to talk to my mom? The argument is like,

call. He's, he talks to my mother. You, like, no, but, You know, it's just for me. It's just for me, I mean, I mean, he'd, and I'd say it, I'd say, oh, no, my father, he'd say, not. I'd say, I was not quite astonished to hear of him.

I'm not sure. I'm not. I'm not sure. But, you know, it's reasonable. It's an equilibrium. But dangerous. Yeah, dangerous. Really dangerous. Kieris, for a guy like you, I think,

to, you know, to play with the fire. In the men, you know. Yeah, yeah, really. Really. But, but, but, you're, but, that's not of crime, you're working

far, you're not to take up your family, you're not the guy that's you're not

to be in that you're when I'm when I'm separated, it's, it's really really,

the bottle has been solid. The bottle I'm I'm in a bar but I

didn't carmionaire and I had been to get a car after I'm

okay like I'm I pett a balloon in certain a restaurant a night

but in pat the balloon I'm my job and And how many times did that? It's a 10 years.

It's been a 10 years? Yeah. Okay. It's been a job. Well, I'm going to work. You do you get in town. I'm going to. Thank you.

I mean, my God, I'm not going to put it. F'all, we'll not. No, it's sure. You want to be, exactly, when the separation arrives. My fee, is rendered at 8-year, my guy, 5-year? You, to 5? Five years? She has five

and my guy, three years. Three years. Okay. So, so it's fine, I'm doing the young woman who is

there. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, so you've started to make a connery a little because you're not.

Yeah, I'll return to not in detail as we're saying because we'll not be able we'll not not get on

we're not no, no, no, we're talking, but you're doing, you're doing these to be done

to be able to you know, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to, you know, The check of ABS pay the logement, it's all. Have you a guard, partage, partaget, or you tombe at a fun of seven-sourne-sour-two?

Partage, part-a-partage. Yeah, part-age-partage. It would have been dur for you to get a fine-to-do with your children, to put-vaught your family-day, to provide your parents? Oh, I'm not supposed. It's impossible. It's impossible. I'd have my parents just a fun-summer-s of two, that's sure, sure. It's not sure.

It'd be the guard partagee, and even after that, I'd have had in time-plend, and I'm totally content, yeah. When you say, when you see, when you see, you're going to be in a bottle, you know, you're trying to, you know, when my parents are there. I imagine that's that, it's the same thing that's the most dangerous, or so that, the connery can't happen, and then, you know, and then, Chris, you know, it's, you know, it's a few, because, you know, I'd have not been,

I'd have been, you know, my children, one day, my children, on two, but when they're not there, you can be there for five years, because... Yeah, yeah, but, you know, I'd pray the good God, and my m'ermannock before I'd

have been to be able to we're saying but you know, but, you know, he'd be there's a bough,

and it felt like the bills so pay, and, you know, I'd say, I'd be to buy me

to get a , uh, it was not for that I'd that I'd like my parents to have to be the

car with the armoire, uh, this pattern, that, it's due how many of time? It's,

it's just when I'd to St. Germain, Grand Tam. And I was a job at at the Pekapak. Well, it's a little

company that had to do the suitretance for other company. And at all the salam minimum, I went to

get to work at the morning, I'd have to get to five minutes, I'd have been at every time,

you're not to be a car. You have no to permit, and, you know, I had been the money, when I, you know,

when I got to pet the balloon, my char, you had to be the money to get, like that. The Chaw, he has stayed at for a year, and

as well, you know, I've poigned a job in the village, but, you know, I had no need to pay me. I'm just, after that, one year, that I've decided to... We're going to resty there. After one year,

so, you're trying to get a job, that, all that, yeah, and I've made to work, 10 years. I've been to have been to have 10 years, and they've done

a good chance, these employers, Joanne, and Joan, and Jean. We're we salue. They've been really, because when they've said,

what's going to do, I said, I'm going to get to be able to be there, I'm playing. Yes, I'm a carmioneer and all the kit. I'm a mechanician also, but it's the dear

to me to find a job in the village, and I petted a balloon like that, I just, we'll be to let your chance. They've been left my chance, and they've been to

all the time until I'm trying to until I'm trying to get to the detail because it's a view to her, but what's the fact you're at about,

you're I was with the guard complete of your family. She's she's a She's

she's a She'll have changed in a little she had been she's a change in a town of a

because my parents he had to do you know, we're not for the people to

and see and that it's like more automatically that had had been that's there was

I think at this age that they they're doing they're made to say they're they've made to ask you

you're saying, you know, choice, and when you're at Obe, you can rest where you're to be in your question, you're not not doing,

they're not too, I'm sure, I'm sure to say, that's angry, you're like, eh, a little reason.

Yeah, it's sure, like that, I've had, I, I've got, in the time full, my my fee, he's with me,

but my guy is still with me, at time plenty, my guy, he grew at 16-year, my wife, she's at her my wife,

the mother to her mother, but in the village, in Drummondville, She's a little job in the village. Like that, I've got to do every day. And then, my guy, he, I don't know. And I'm at this hour I'm going to, I'm going to have my siftleur in my shop.

Like that I've been... We've been a cabionaire. Yeah, but I'm there, presently, I'm not... I know. I see where I'm going. After, you said that you've worked 10 years for Peck and PekyPack, something like that. And I don't know why, in saying, I don't know, I just the two of curate,

you know, I don't know if I'm not why I'm going to sort of my mind if I'm saying, it's a part of it, not if you were to say, but you've been, you've got to recuperated your contract?

Well, you've only I've had to have to have to have my examines. Okay. There's been to have to have my examines, like that I've been to do with auto,

but I've been returning to car and I've gone to charge matlasas. Okay, I think. I'm doing the camions. It's so, but that's that.

That's that. Yeah, my question. I'm going to do the camions, but I'm not on the road. Okay. I work in a shop, a limel, at Lange, guardian, and I do you, I feel the shantage. I, you know, I recule the remorse in the dock, and I repung, I, I remit in the chint, I'm in place,

at 10th Ports of Tock, like that. You know, it's a fact of my remit in bed in, at cause my objective, it's to return on the truck, because, you know, because you did that, you say, you know, you know, you know, you're talking to be a balloon, it's a long time, Nesty, because you've passed 10 years, at the same Peckypack and all that. And when I was arriving,

you're coming to try to go ahead of your char. I don't know why I had an impression that it was your chair, and I looked at least the little machine for sufle. That's not, it's not, it's not, it's not.

It's a year. But it's been a minute, I'm saying, when I was going to have sheprised with the balloon, but even after 10 years, they're not trying again, you're obliged to have

your ballon, yeah. So even when you've been to have ever seen, at a moment you've petted your ballon... Yeah, I've never been researching. You've never been to charge you. So, so at the time, even if it's been 10, 15 years,

you've got to be able to get your license, you're obliged to have, even if it's been 10 years, because you've never ever, okay, I think it's an event that I thought, you're the same event. It's obliged to have it.

Even if it's 10 years. I think you were back up, I thought that I'm in a while, I thought you'd have turned in CETRA, you had repunged a ballon, and then, you're at the point. No, no, no, no, okay.

I've had the same because I've got to because it's a long time, not the permit that's a ballon that you see. Yeah, okay, I'm trying,

I'm trying to so. Yeah, so if you petted a balloon, and you let's to get a permit and you

don't have a char, and you've got to a char, you've got to have a ballad. Hey, he'd be able to get a barrenner.

Yeah, and then it's not done it, uh, well, it's, you know, it's,

it's, it's, not the frets, you know, it's a I think it's a

cost, it's worth, $300,000 per month. Well, it's kind of, yeah, it's,

it's kind of money, but for having the right, it's quite important. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, and how, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you're saying, you know, to me, you're saying, after you're in a few times, like that,

20, 20, 20, 20, yeah, and, and I'm ,

resumed, to, At 16, 50 years. Yeah. Yeah. You'd do you? Do you think, to mind, I'm going to putt you?

I'm going to remit in this tiny crisis of building, you know? My chum have made a moment of a moment of a day.

They me say, Pierre, presentment, it's been because your children, some young,

and the kid, that you're getting autonomous and the year, I'm afraid of how much you're going to react. If there's

no person to be occupied. Yeah. That my my parents are doing autonomous and, you know, but at a moment

of a year, it's not just to be able to, no, I'd be able to turn. I'd say, you'd say,

do you say, do you say, it's a grandpapa, and then, that's a barbara yeah, that's a good idea.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. But, hey, I just, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, your daughter, you know, and your guy, you know, he's a, you know, he's a business,

yeah, yeah, for pay his telephone, no, you, in the sense. And my guy, you know, my fee, you know, at least, she has, and he's,

and he's, and he's, he's more the little bit bad boy that I've, like that I, like that, he's a little,

he's a little , yeah, I'm in a pause. Is that, I'm reve, for the people to listen, I,

I'm revert, just that, he just, he just, he just, you've been to do, , I'll respond your question

because the people don't know because the people don't don't know is that to go to go to

get in criminology is related to that you know, she's the man? She'll, she want to comprehend

what the chem, is that or where you have been to go, you know, you know,

the sun parko and how many he's there could be able to say, I'm maybe,

I'm trying to she's what? She's, she, she, she, she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, a mix of that. She said, she had,

if his father had had had had been, if he had had been a little chaminement

or a part of a course, maybe, well, I'm, I'll be a two seconds

for, to say, bravo, to say, because it's, it's not that you want to

to do to find millions, but you go, you know, you know, you know,

I think, the people who decide to have this choice, this mitia, certainly when they

have a vehicle, for some for the good reason, it's it's a part of the people,

it's a lot of, and thank to get to get to get in there to get to get to for just a time, for me

when I said, it's like I had to get this little that with you don't, you're very very fair.

I'm really, my, my parents, my best my best my life, what's what are

what are what they're doing, and what are and, really, but, you, what's they're

doing, yes, it's, But, you know, I think I've done a good job also with us other. I've been a pair very present,

at the end up, I'm doing, it's my life, my own, like that, they've seen the mother, you know,

I never, no, tap my parents, never, ever, ever, ever, ever,

I've been, I've been, a minute, a bit of Christmas, that, that's a barna, that, but,

but to do that say, that I've been , Like that I think to help to make

in order to I'm saying to be in my guy, I've got to check a bit more because there's

there's a a little bit bit of being a lot of glass to play as but is,

is there is the pattern of, hey, you're who me say? No, but you understand in the

sense of the way, I'm I'm doing you, you're who the guy

who has done you're he challenged you're challenging you're this side that

or When I saw When I saw I'm going to When I'm in At the level of the Like,

like on at the entire of the kit, I remit I remit in the face Hey,

you know, I just had said, that I'm that bad that Chris, at cause

the consumption I'm on the prison, that's you're to you tell you

to your story? Yeah, I'm I'm in invite to really to go to

the podcast and sometimes there's sometimes to get my my

vehicle and where it has made the consumption and

and to be to your image at the cost of my guy, you know, he likes of banssel

be baguette, and to be to know, but sometimes it's not, it's not, it's sure.

Coat consumption, is what, you know, I'm doing a little yeah, well, yeah,

well, you know, when I'm when I know, when I'm when I'm , you know,

I'm doing I'm, I'm doing 10 hours per year, I'm at 1 hour to be there, I'm at a

time if I'm doing for a day for a day at a day, and when I arrive the night, I'm going to be

two, three pretty little and then after that I'm going to have to have to have been to and it.

You're not? No. You're not you're doing? Yeah, I'm in my life, yeah.

And then, and a, and a shock in your life, something of something, that's not, to chat,

not a matter to person, it's, it can arrive, it's a lotreysm, it's sure I'd I'd have a It's sure I'd

They'd be Like a bit of Like a lot of... Like a lot of... Exactly, Yeah, no, he's a tabernic to callus. You're gonna be able to

When you finish to work, it's not too long to come at 7,8 and at 10, 12 and a little track because, because, Chris, it's got to charge

I'm not, I'm not yet to be thinking to be able to I'm still, I'm gonna do this process of again, to understand

because it's not Thank you, it's not Mavis. It's not bad, to say, and I'll repeat a few,

I'm going to say, I'm saying, I'm saying, it's Etienne Bully who made out of this phrase,

when you go to do until you end to the end up to your story. You know, I'm trying,

to say, yeah, but there, it's because it's a fact, it's normal, it's correct

to-o- that's because I'm because I've Vick's so. You're not to be the other,

but, but, don't, to put, at the At a-sway, I'm at eight, Array, too, in three days. Ah, well, eight, it's correct.

So I'm going to reprend eight, and then, yeah, it's three-four-four-year-old. It's a minute it's eight to three-year-old. But I mean, it's eight at three-year-old. You know, you know, you're letting a door open. You do it, me, if I'm a guy who's not a day, it's a dangerous. Yeah.

But you've got to think that if I'm a guy that's a guy who makes the door to try and maybe. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. I'm just not for you to offer a lesson, because I'm not the way to re-entantant to hear of Pierre that, you know, he had too much in the swath

and the naran, he'd demangeed so much, that he set up in a U.S.K. And he's not, you know, he's not, you know, it's not, you know, it's not, it's not because

your parents are not important, and that's not important for us other. It's not because they're not because they're not because,

but, like you, you have to do keep you're doing face of the little kids on PC. Ha ha ha ha ha!

You know, I'm 19, you're going to be calm. Captain-toe, but, you know, I'm 45 years, my father in a 65,

and it's a person who's still for me, and vice versa, I think, so, so. Yeah, but I'm,

but I think, in the case, I want to be really a sincerity, you know, when you're doing to have an nasty of grand care,

you're a joy to live, you know, I'll see, I'm, I'm, I'm, I feel,

I'm, I think you're a guy who is capable to, the fun you know, and I think

you're not a guy who's not a guy that's a guy that the people who are to be able to know,

I'm going to have passed a night with you and it's sure it's the fun yeah, you know, you're trying

to find, you know, so why why why why? Why, why? Why,

you know, there's a t'clock you. You're all right to get people who don't know

that you're to be able to talk, you're a, you're what's what I've got, I've had some, and I've had a fun, and I've been, because I'm suh, and not because you're not because

it's a suhouser, because it's the fun, you know, fun, in jazze, we've done, you know, my podcast, it's not always like that, we've, we're laughing, and we're joking, and, you know, because I feel that I can do with you, you know, so, frive not the people of that.

You're all right of all, so. So, it's just that. I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've always, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I, you've, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, If you've been two hours that we're talking that's the feeling

that I've got, you know, to be the feeling that's you know, to have a friend of people and the fun in the world,

the fun, because Chris, he is the fun. You don't know to be in a house for a question because he has not

refliction two seconds, because he's a little, there's a bit of pain, there, a little, there, a bit of that. It's, yeah,

it's so for that for I'm very when I'm, when I'm when I'm some, sometimes, it's,

you don't, the phrase, check me, well, go to because, no, that's

dangerous, you know, this phrase, uh, go, go to go to

when we when we're when we rest, six years or two months after a after a

, it's because we, we've, not thought too long. You've evolved,

you're getting more, you're there's always there, there's always a,

there's always, there's, there's, you know, All I can say and you'd be to say, is to be attentive to you,

let's not too guided by your emotions, because I think they can't be able to get to be too long,

but I'm not a lesson to do you on to do you get to be in a little alley, because I'm

a little so, so I'll don't, Fonse, my guy, and me, you're a

good sorrow, you're fun, you're fun, I'm sorry, rest of Mr. Cereck. Pierre,

sincerely, a pleasure. Really, really, really, that's good, Judith, same thing, and Jeffrey. Yeah.

Jeff, calm to you. Calm, too. You want to sit in front of me. You don't want to sit in front of me. Help your father, huh? You don't know, because you do too of connery, it's not good for him. So, think not anything to you.

Think of him. Think of your son. And he'll, you know, face, dee my little kids' children, but for real, thank you. Yeah, but for real, thank you, man, and rest kicked

on your way to and stay on the other and if you merit to have the mantle in the hour, man, after the chameleement that's made. Thank you.

We're doing. We'll parloire.