Aunty Donna Podcast - Alexei Toliopoulos meets Peter Jackson, Sir Richard Taylor, David Wenham & David Wenham

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

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run of podcasts in my personal preference. So enjoy these and we'll see you soon in a show. If not, enjoy the potty. A Listener Production. we get one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life, Mr Alexei Tulliopoulos on, and then we scream at him for 30 minutes. A true waste of a great guest coming up in this episode. This is one of our favourite people in the world.

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So You Want to Been a Peanut Pump By Demi Lardner So you want to be a pinna pump In the first episode The pilot episode With Paul F Tompkins And Alexi Toliopoulos And our other

Grasshouse series Finding Rocco In which he and Cameron James James Cameron from Avatar tried to find Rocco and his modern life. Can you set him straight real quick?

It's called Finding Yeezus. Yes. And it was about looking for Kanye West's sanity. That's the podcast. Oh, right. Finding Rocco is the series. No, no, no, no. You might also know.

Alex, do you want to set him straight? I'd love to set this guy straight. Am I allowed to take it to, am I allowed to speak? Can I just do one more thing? You might also know Zach. I mean, you might also know Zach from. I know, I know,

classification, the show of David and Margaret. Oh, Margaret and David. Come on. She gets first billing. That toured Australia in 2025 to Roaring Reviews from lions. Roaring review. A roaring review from a lion. Roars.

I wanted to eat their bones. They look like my lunch. And I explained to Alexi, Lexi was like, oh man, I think they just saw two big, big meat boys. That's why they were roaring and I said, it doesn't matter. You just post about it. Did you hear, yeah, you just get the top line. They don't know that they're lions.

The audience doesn't know that they're liens. They don't know. The stars were attributed to Mr. MGM himself, the roaring lion. You can say raw reviews. Roar reviews. But wait, did you see the lion's review of taxi driver? What did he say? He said, raw.

Wow. How many roars? I know, he just kind of wore it and then paced up and down along the glass fence. Yeah, it was before a numbered system. They tried to introduce the star system with the line that he couldn't figure it out. So it's just how much he paces. It's not, it's an art, not a science. Oh, beautiful, okay.

How much did he pace? How many roars did he do? You tear the flesh from the elk's bones with nothing but his teeth. Yes, he did. At feeding time, yeah, they brought in some lamb legs and they, him and the other line, two young, like, juvenile males. Yeah. They try, they do, I don't exactly understand that it's very complicated,

but they do take into account how much, how tasty the meat of the performers looks. Oh, wonderful. So, with you and I, this is our nice marbled flesh, I'm sure that line was giddy and drooling. Zach would, everything Zach's saying is speculative, though. Like, he's just looking at lines at the zoo and going. Yeah. Wonder how they would, if they were reviewers, would they, you know. Would they roar?

No, no, this is a, this is a thing. Where are you getting this information? I think they've been doing. in the Sun Herald since 2004. They discontinued it, but yeah, no, they definitely They brought it back for comedy festival season this year. Lee Pash is a...

Lee Pach is a lion. Okay, please welcome. Alexi Toliopoulos. Wow, thank you so much. Welcome back for me. I'm a welcome back into the heart of the Auntie Donner podcast. And what do you... Have you got stuff on?

Oh, always. I'm one of the busiest boys. the biz right now. We're just boys the biz. What makes you busy? I'm moving, I'm dealing and often I'm wheeling. Wow.

Watch, I imagine watching a lot of movies on the way. I'm watching all the films. How do you find the time been such a busy? Because I'm a busy boy. I like films. I love films like you do.

I like films. I'm a busy boy. I never find the time to watch films. How do you find the time? Well, when you do what you love, it takes precedent in your life and other things fall to the side. Such as?

Such as health, I don't look after my health that much. You know, I live quite an interior life. I'm sitting down often in, you know, not ideal conditions, such as my apartment that has black mold every now and then, especially during the colder climates. Nice, nice. Now we see you're sort of a fun cardigan there. Oh, wow, yeah, wow.

I mean, let's address the fact that Zach was so excited to have you that he dressed up for the occasion. He even put on a tie. Zach has put on a tie for the occasion. And Zach, I'm so happy to see that he've worn a tie for me. And you know, I don't like ties. I know, he doesn't like ties. The way they squinch up on my neck.

For clarity, though, like for anyone listening, I don't want to, I don't think he'd be getting into any fancy dinner restaurants with this tie. You ain't getting into the magic castle with that way. It's a comical Christmas tie on an elastic strap. Yeah, I found it on the table here. Oh, he almost called the table a shelf. Ah! Well, you know, it is the season, what is a shelf for an elf, you know, that's a table for you know.

That is a, you know, that's just saying a Christmas elf on the shelf is you think kids are saying that people are buying elves for the kids, they're putting them out at Christmas. And that is like a system where the elf is watching, the elf is watching the whole time. So we're at the top of the hour now, we're going to go to the news. And when we come back, a little bit more movie news from our resident movie expert, Alexi Toliopoulos. Millions of people were to sell so bad, bad world. Welcome back with Alexi. Now you...

Great to be here, guys. You are the go-to for movies. You are the movie guy. Yeah, yeah. Would you say that you've... Are you feeling that? Are you feeling what Margaret and David had that you've stolen that from them?

And you have become... You have sucked in their spirits and their souls. And you have taken that for this country? I would say, yes, I have. Over a period of time, I did slurp up their soul, their essence, their being, and now I've incorporated into my own being as well. Okay, maybe you can help us. We've had a bit of a debate here at the station.

Now, Mark loves Marvel movies, Broden loves D.C. And I'm a bit more artsy. I'm a bit more fancy. What are the kind of movies you like, Zach? I love A-24, which is a little studio you might never have heard off. Tell us, what do you think? Marvel, DC? What are you thinking, mate?

Settle the bet. Settle the bet once and for all. And we're talking about where those franchises are right now. Not where they could be in a couple of years, all right? Well, I mean, where they are right now, I have only seen 24 minutes of the new Fantastic Four. So that is... Why only 24?

I was invited to a preview event that showed 24 minutes of clips from Fantastic Four. Sorry. Yeah, Pedro Pascal was in attendance Let's drop the commercial radio bit for a second Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Well, I was invited to an event that was called

The Launch Event for Fantastic Four And Pedro Pascal was there Who's the star Fantastic Four Vanessa Kirby was there Who's a star Fantastic Four He's a daddy Uh, yeah, he's the first daddy of the MCU, I would say Yeah, yeah

Vanessa Kirby from the Crown And she's mother, she's the first mother of the MCU Daddy and Mother Yes. and Eben Moss Backrack was there who was of course the first cousin of the MCU and he plays the thing

the thing a rock hard man a rock hard man who believes every now and then the time strikes clobberin and so he's sort of taken what started as a fringe

drama in the in the cookman the bear the cookman and the girls before that he was in girls famously was a guy that ate Marnie's ass yes but it was a fake ass

Was it a fake ass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw a whole thing about how it was a, it's a full prosthetic. Anytime you see dong, especially on HBO, it's usually a fake. So you're telling me, the fake dong, fake asses, fake a punani. So you're telling me the guy from Fantastic Corps, the big rock man, was in Cookboy and Girls of New York. And I. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And played John Quincy Adams in the John Adams' HBO series, Paul Gimardi's John Adams. Oh, I love. Love that. Directed by the director of Katz. That's right. Tom Middlesmitch or whatever he's name. Tom Middlesmith. The Middleth.

Now, what's your favorite? What, tell us... Why did you see 24 minutes of this fucking thing? I was invited and I assumed there was a premiere event because I had the cast and it was like a big blue carpet as that is the costume. Of course. Of course. The fantastic.

They wear blue. So they died the red carpet, a color to match the aesthetic of the film. And there was a big event. Many stars. We're there. You think it was a custom dye? I think it would have been a custom die, John.

We're talking it was a big deal. It's Marvel we're talking about. They have the Monet. Yes. I'm going to get back into this commercial radio rift that I've decided we're doing. Okay. All right, here we go.

All right, that's so funny, Alexi. He must have been very awkward. We're going to listen to Pit Pony Club now. Very fun song. We've got it at a double speed with a beat behind it. And then when we're back, we're going to ask, Alexi, what his favorite movie is.

Okay, we're back. Favorite movie, Alexi. I just really want to know how you watch 24 minutes. of clips, like whole scenes, were there trailers? Why? Were their credits? Why? Did they cut in between the go, that was a clip, and now here's the next clip. At this moment, we are seeing Daddy with his stretchy arm.

Were they trying not to give away the plot? No, no, because you did, I learned what the plot was from the 24 minutes of clips. The plot was essentially the Silver Surfer comes and she's like, I'm a herald from another universe. that there will be stuff that will come destroy you guys. That's interesting for a villain from another universe comes in and sort of just fuck shit up. Yeah, but he's big.

He's really tall. He's like really tall. He's not like Thanos is tall. This cunt is tall. He's like Godzilla-style tall. He's big. He's very big. I'm going to go see that.

He's tall. He's humongous. He's played by Ricky Javas' mate in the office. Stephen Merchant. No, no, no, no. The mean one that comes in. With the deep voice Yeah

He's got a long Have you seen the vich The vvvich The vich It's pronounced the vich The Vivich Have you seen The Green Knights

If Dev Patel He plays the green knight Have you seen the office With Ricky Javas You know the guy With the really deep voice In the northern accent Sorry no professionals

They go with the bike No No Just fucking forget it I'm sorry It's all right It's all right You know what

You watch a movie You can't tell him. I had no idea. He's big. He's fucking tall. He's probably tall in real life, but he's very tall as tall as he's in the movie. Do you think he's... No, not as tall as he's in the movie, because it would be using probably similar style of technology that Peter Jackson pioneered on the Hobbit movie. We talked about this. We actually had on this podcast, not only Peter Jackson was on this show. Wow, Peter Jackson, I didn't know PJ did the show. Would you like to meet him? I'd love to meet him. I'd love to meet when you talk about miniatures in film. I think

someone you might want to meet. Oh my gosh. Has he been knighted? Hello. Can you introduce Peter, please? Because I'm going to become him. All right. Alexi, I'd like to introduce you to a very close friend of the podcast.

Peter Jackson. Lexi, lovely to see you. How are you? Oh, Peter. How am I? I'm great. I'm a huge family of you since they thought. Well, I think you'll be surprised to know that I'm familiar with your work as well.

No way. I've actually seen a fair bit of the things you put online in the internet. Oh my gosh. Peavy pan. I spent a lot of time I'm watching things and sort of just ruminating on ideas. Like, for example, they shall not grow old, which was footage, found footage from World War I. Yes, a beautiful film, Peter, I might say. Thank you so much.

Well, it was just a lot of time sitting in studios, we're looking at footage of these young men sent off. Yes. And getting that at the right frame rate, getting that because they were rolling, it was a rolling the cameras with it. And so getting that matched perfectly, getting those colours exactly right, it was a pursuit of mine. And much like you talking about movies that you love. Yeah. It's a path. It's a shared love

but also miniatures I hear Minatures, oh my God Hello, hello It's me Sir Richard Taylor Sir Richard Taylor From the special of features of the Lord of the Rings series

I'm here to tell you all about miniatures and making armour and all those sorts of things that I've done with my friend Peter How did you guys Friends are loaded wear there because we've had moments of tension between us in the years

Well obviously I run the workshop And he runs digital We're both wetter and we're both on the boards but he's more digital and I'm more workshop. Wow. You like miniatures. I love miniatures but I also realized a term that you invented

what do you want to call you sir? Yes I'm Sir Richard Taylor Sir Richard Taylor and I invented the term bigotches. That's what I was going to say invented the term biggatures because your miniatures were so big that they could not be fathomably seen as miniatures. I will say though that I did

I didn't invent the term bugachers, that was an intern in the office. I wanted to call them mediumchers. Because of a medium size, they're made, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Halfway between a normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But a bigotcher is a normal thing. So Richard, that's just been just normal. You just say a thing is a normal size.

You don't have to put into context that it's bigger or smaller than it should be. Their famous squabbles, their famous squabbles are happening right now. What's the smallest bigoture you've ever made? The smallest bugger I ever made was a... miniature. Very good. Very good. But when does it cross over, Sir Richard Taylor?

When does it go from one to the other? Because I wonder... When it goes... One to 24 would be a miniature. One to three is a bugger. And is that when you're able to... The crossover line is around one to five. Is that when you're able to speak to it through the astral plane and close your eyes?

When it crosses over? Ah, sure. Oh. Oh, what's wrong, Peter J? Are you a bit upset because you made the Fab 4 a bit smooth in Get Back? No, it's not that at all. Oh, okay. Though I did work, that was fend.

Couldn't believe when I found that footage march. Yeah. Seeing before my eyes, I didn't know I had you there, but get back being written in the moment. Yeah. As Paul comes in early, John Lannan late with Yoko Ono. Yeah, yeah. Just starts to fiddle away on the guitar and you realize that you're seeing Get Back a song that's lived decades and decades. I think it was Paul.

That's what I said. Oh, I thought you said John. They're all together. They're collaborating this, you know. Just coming together in front of you, but I'm a bit sad. Why are you sad, Peter? Well, everyone's calling Sir Richard, Sir Richard, but I'm also knighted too. We're united.

Yeah, but you know, you're using a NZ and a KNZim. K&ZM. King's Nature, Zeeland's, medal? It sounds like a video format. But what were you going to say, why haven't you called him to do? Dot KNZ, I've got to remux it because it's in dot K&Z. Well, I was going to say, Peter, you know, it felt more a Heron to call Sir Richard, Sir Richard, because he's here with his chain mail on, he's got his...

He's dressed like a traditional night. He's dressed like a traditional night. I'm not traditional. I'm dressed like the Urukai before they were turned into Oroquay. This is the thing we wanted a rich history to be seen in our armor. He's ready to have, you know, Saruman's hands, wider than paint and smear the cross his head. But, you know, you're hearing, I might just say cargo shorts, a slubby kind of polo with a few little grease marks. That's right, yes, I've been eating chicken.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your traditional on grease. It's your traditional garbage. I've been sitting in a dark room looking at old footage. Yeah, I don't know. And sometimes I'd turn the light and go, oh, jeez, my lunch is on my shirt. Yeah, yeah. But they'll say, I wanted to come in today dressed as writers of Roham

and thank goodness I didn't because we'd look quite the picture. Wouldn't we? He's got the, he's got the Hobarton and his backyard. You have hobbiton in your backyard? Well, to an extent, yeah, this is, yes. That's all of them. He said to me, he said, Richard, and I have built bag in,

could you put it in my backyard after we finish the trilogy? I said, yes, I'd be happy to, Peter, your good friend. A bit of a backyard blitz, kind of moving that stuff into your backyard. Have you seen the original footage of that? Oh, the original footage of Jamie Deary, yeah, yeah, from war when he was in his, like, magic mark here else? Some of the backyards they show up in absolutely in ruins.

Yeah, it's true. But he works with his team of people in skimpy shorts. Yeah, did he help make hobbits of. and the Shire. What? No, not to mind. It was a team that were used

mainly in New Zealand that we worked on the art department wonderful team over there who worked, we shot in South Ireland we shot in North Ireland but a lot of the actors moved over.

Don't ask him about when they tried to unionise though, it makes him cry. Oh, don't even mention the unions to me. Jenny Tury used to be a stripper just want to put that in. Yeah, let's talk about that.

He was part of manpower. Yeah, man power. Yeah, that was keeping the women of the 90s just hot and horny. Exactly. To see a man is that. Of that beauty, of that calibre to be stripped down to his bare essentials.

He was on Oprah. He was on Oprah. Alexa, you like films I've been told. I love films, Sir Richard. Will we make them? You make many of my favourite films. I make the miniatures and the armour and that sort of stuff. Do you know the man that makes the swords?

I hired the man that makes the swords. I've met the man that makes the swords. I know. I've met the man that makes the world sing. Did you see all the little toys? Did you see all the little toys in my office? Are those miniatures or are those toys? No, they're just toys.

Did you see the guest book? Did you see who got a tour before you? Yeah, John Lasseter, I believe he was just kind of confronted at Pixar. He was on a holiday, he said, I'm between jobs at the moment, can I have a tour? I'm sure he gave a few hugs to the people around the office there that they? No, he wasn't hugging at all. No, no, he was just sitting at a desk next to young him. Did you notice Sir Richard Taylor likes to yell?

But he doesn't even know he's yelling. You know, he's got no control of the volume of his voice. I'm not yelling right now. No control. No control. I just thought, I know he doesn't yell this much in real life, but I thought it would be a good contrast to Peter who is whispering more than he. Your Peter is a lot more churl and I thought he's got a yelling energy. But when are you going to be in a room with people like us again?

I know you've interviewed David Winnom for your podcast. Yes, I, Farmy himself. But when are you going to get the chance again to talk to two people who are more prolific in film then you've got a wind down here. I know, this is exciting. I made the Bones from Lovely Bones. I was going to say, Lovely Bones was an interesting movie. Stanley Tucci played a petherfall.

Tucci, we love Tucci. He's only Oscar nomination to this date. He's a transformative performer. He can play the side, the second in charge to the devil wears proud of it. I hope he's in the sequel. Well, yes. Patrick Bremel's in that. Isn't that exciting, Patrick Bramle is going to call up?

Yeah. Wow. You know, I was cut out. That's sick. That's sick. Would you like to meet David Wenham? Oh, I've met David Wenham. But you like to, well, I've met him since the quantum.

Don't worry about it. Did you know that a quantum experiment split him in half? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's several David Wenham's floating around. I'd love to meet one of the David Wemms. Would you like to meet one or two? Let's mean a couple of the David Wemims.

Well, yeah, because they come in pairs now. Yeah, I'd love to be the pair of Bavis. Well, let me introduce you to David Wennam and. David Wenham Well, Lexi It's good to see you again How are you? Well, Lexie

Wow, David's. David Winnham Wow, David's What's your favourite number David Wenham's? Oh, well, that's got to be 8? Maybe how many Spartans?

Maybe a many Spartans Getting square How many Spartans How many Spartans Oh, 300 300? Yeah, so I was sent you up for that I was also in the sequel as well

302 Yeah, yeah 302 Yeah, yeah Staring the girl Can we get Ben Jackson's that plan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't think that David Weddams isn't quite.

Hello, Lexie, I'm flying. Hello, um. Oh, he's back. What is your name again? My name's Lex. Oh, Lex. I'm re-branding, I reckon. Oh, yeah.

Lex Lutha. What did you think of David Corrin's sweat and James Gunn's? Did you see the new Superman? I'm not seen the new Superman. Oh, so I would say from pictures, he looks wonderful. And for someone who likes movies, you certainly haven't seen the hottest hit of the winter. Well, on this side of the hemisphere. Well, which is where you live.

It's a fascinating little story because it's about a man, it's about an alien who flies through the skylands in sort of rural United States of America. Yeah, yes, that's wonderful. They're in a ranch, they raise him in a farmhouse and stuff, right? Yes, correct, yes. Yeah, it's a very anti-American story. Really?

But he's the pinnacle of America. He's Superman. Oh, this one's quite woke. He sort of saves people. And how do you feel about it? He just looks after people and cares for them. He cares more about rodents than he does people in this one. He saves a lot of lives and sort of is a nice man for a two hours.

Yeah, he's looking after a rodents. I'll tell you that much right now. Fair enough. Sort of tries to keep a strong moral core and a simple moral core in complicated times. Very woke. What is your favourite movie? My favourite movie of yours. Gosh, probably desolation of Smalg, the Hobbit 2.

Oh, wow, really. I'm somewhat being somewhat humorous, Peter, but because it's a movie I've wanted to talk to you about, I guess. When you watched that movie, did you notice anything different? Did it feel different to other movies visually? When I was watching this movie, I go, this is truer to life. It's almost as if the director found a way to make... Oh, I'm going to come.

I'm just so excited to tell you how I did that. Usually I'm watching movies and I go, this... I'm only feeling like maybe every second I'm feeling 24 frames of truth here. But while I'm watching the Hobbit, the Desolaceous Smar, I go, this is double the amount of truth per second that I'm seeing right now. Listen, first thing I'll say, did you like the song by Ed Shear and I, I see fire in this? I see fire. Love that. And I love the, um, the Neil Finn's song that also appeared in the other Hobbit movies.

He is from New Zealand. He is part of the band, Cratted House and Split Ends. Well, Tim Finn is split ends? Is Neil Finn, is Neil Finn? Neil Finn joined the band to the later juncture, yes. Yeah, for a moment. before they moved to Australia and started a crowd house

actually about the house they lived in Los Angeles writing the albums Because there would have been so many fellas in that house right Probably where they got their name from Not enough bigotches

Oh we've gone through this before Sir Richard Taylor There's only so many bigotches and miniatures You can put it in a film Well have you planned it a bit better I could have built a couple more bigotches for you Yeah At what point

Does it become too big for you Because then it just becomes a prop Yeah. That'd be one for one. One for one. But if it's one, if it's two one, that's still a bigotcher. Yeah, but a very big bugger.

Bigger. Yeah, it's a big bigoture. How did you guys do the coins that Smorg sits on? Because they do look kind of, when they're all bunched up together like that, they look quite comfortable. And I've sat on a coin or two in my time, often in my pocket or my wallets. And I've noticed that sometimes they can be quite uncomfortable when they kind of bunch up But when you see Smauk, he's lazing quite carefree on them.

As is the duck, the cartoon duck. Yeah, Scrooge, the duck. Did you use the same kind of sets that Scrooge McDuck? As you're talking about when Scrooge McDuck dives into a pool of coins. Dives into those coins as if it was nothing but a humble swimming pool. Yeah, because when the... The truth would not happen. It would be...

Scrooge McDuck's lucky to survive that dive. It would be dense, I imagine. Or a hard. I can imagine... A soil, yeah. amount of coinage that he has, not dissimilar to your friend, Smalg. Horders. Morg is my friend, yes.

Yeah, there would be this equivalent to like, for us, like a big pool with the amount of atoms, like each atom kind of making up a little bit of water and stuff. He would be so rich that there would be the same effect as that many atoms coming together to form a water full of pool. If either of

us went to the bank right now and said, we'll get out all our money and coins, we would probably have that many coins, but Both between us. Not two dollar coins, though. You'd have to go 50 cents. But they're quite big, too.

They're probably too big. He's very rich. He's very, very rich. I probably need 50 cent coin. He produced the mortal engines after all. I think he could do it with two dollars. You produced mortal engines. And you wrote the screenplay with Philip and Fran.

Yes, we sat down and wrote it together. Yeah, and it's based on big, um, they're quite big too. Those towns, the towns. Well, we built the towns. They're on wheels. Then they scanned the town. Yeah. No, Ben Affleck directed that film.

He had nothing to do with it. What? Nothing to do with that film. You're confused. No, I'm not confused at all. Ben Affleck didn't direct it, I believe it was a protege of you. He directed it. He's a story of...

You're thinking of that town. This is about the towns on World. Oh, I'm so sorry about that. Completely. I thought you were talking about the bank robber film. Remember you made me make a big wheel to be scanned by Wetter Digital. I remember like us yesterday. On that South Island, I have a question for you, Peter Jackson.

When you were watching... Benedict Cumberbatch performers Smog in that costume Was there ever a moment where you went It's a bit much No, I thought

this was going to be I love the commitment he's doing to that but also you know Richard Boone played him as well What? Richard Boone

played Benedict Cumberbatch Yes, actor Richard Boone He played Smog as well He played him in 19 Well he's born in 1917 died in 1981 Richard Boone

In the cartoon In the cartoon Richard Boone from the cartoon Richard Boone from the cartoon From the Cartoon The Hobbit cartoon movie the Hobbit animated adventure which has a couple of live action shots

in it I think I think it's a rotoscopes Yeah yeah but they're Is it rotoscopes or am I thinking about Some of it's rotoscopes Or am I thinking about the Bakshi Lord of the Ring You're talking of a Scanner I think maybe I'm thinking of the Lord of the Rings

You're thinking of Lord of the Rings Yeah yeah And you're thinking about Richard Linklater's a scammer dark Yeah I was thinking with Smorg What if I went back in 10 years time And just picked up again

See where Smorg's at now and then I'd do it again and again, put it all together into another film. What about 10 years previously? And you go, well, what was he doing 10 years before The Hobbit? I thought I could just do the first film where we're seeing a character grow in front of us. My question, Peter, is would you be able to show that kind of restraint and do it in one film? Or must it be an epic three? Well, that's why I'm keeping it under wraps now.

But you've obviously seen the first one, desolation edition of Smorg. Yeah. But I think I'd like to turn it into a Richard Linklater type brotherhood situation. Oh, you're talking about brotherhood. It's actually called boyhoods in Australia. I don't know what they call it in New Zealand. It could be called Brotherhood. We already had a soap opera called Boyhood.

Yeah, he's got a sister and it's not like they have a brotherhood between his sister. I've not seen it. I've not seen it. Well, you would love it, I think, you know. Well, how do they do it? How do they make him get hold so quick? Well, they use the real passage of time. Yeah, they use the real passage of time.

Yeah, you could say it was co-directed by time itself. By time itself. Yeah. Well, not really. They just shot it over a long period of time. But a nicer of you could say something like that, kind of something a bit poetic. I think most films are also, if that's the case, but all films are directed by time itself as well

because no film is shot not in time. Not to this extent. Except for Interstellar. Well, that is true. That's time left. They went close to the black hole and understall. We have a very big film question for you. What is the opposite of a book case?

The opposite of a book case? Yeah. Wow. We've thrown some stuff out there because if we were doing... Here's some options. Here's some options. Because what we were trying to think of... Thank you because that first question was really open-ended

and I had actually no idea what the rest of it's specific. Yeah, I forgot who I was here with. I've got what characters you guys are playing. So we were trying to think about. Sir Peter Jackson. Oh, hi, thank you, Peter. I'll just keep pulling you, Pete. If one element of Interstellar was the complete opposite.

Yeah. So when he goes into the, the back of the bookcase, or whatever, whatever, Tesseract, I believe that's from the MCU. And this version of Interstellar, is he old and she's still young? Oh, look, I don't know. I just remembered that I wasn't part of this. Zach was. So I turn that into a question.

Carry on. Yeah, right. So, but when he goes into the bookcase, it's the opposite. So one thing we all agreed on is that there's lots of gravity. So he can barely move off the ground. But what is it that he's trying to see? Now, we thought maybe a gun rack, because if books bring knowledge, guns maybe bring death, which I guess is sort of, once you're dead,

you can no longer absorb knowledge, not anything new. Or a big book. or yeah one big book with small bookcases in it was another thought not really the opposite to me more just like a sort of abstract version of a bookcase could I pitch something?

Yes, that's just a big Bradenton. Yeah, have a think, have a think. I would say this, I'm actually sickened by this question. Why? I feel ill the way that you phrase it. Why? It's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. I'm starting to reconsider life.

I become metaphysical thinking about this. That's a strange reaction. I feel, I felt. overwhelmed by this question. Okay. Well, I could give an answer. I can't even attack it humorously. I feel, I feel strange by it.

I'll give an answer and you can see what you think of it. Yes. So I'm thinking, what's the opposite of books, beer? In what way? Books beer. In the way that when you read a book, you get sharper. When you drink a beer, you get looser. Great.

What's the opposite of a shelf? A loose collection of things. So I would propose that he is communicating to his daughter through a loose collection of beer. A place. Lethera of beer. Some cans of beer strewn across the floor. What about like in an esk or something?

No, that's still a storage container. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Loose beers across the floor. So the beers wobble. What on the earthy were all talking about? The opposite of interstellar. I don't think anyone's interested. I think they'd prefer, I'd prefer to have my nose need.

You'd prefer to do it in CG. Oh, come on. He's a rich in table. Are you thinking betrayed that you've been doing more CG and less practical stuff? Well, I just find to creatively stretch and move and be able to evolve. And the things CJ can do today, I think you're going to test it, Alexei Dolopolis. Yeah, I guess so.

CG does some wonderful stuff. Computer generated imagery. I think it's wonderful. But I'm much, Peter, I'll say this. I actually do think that, so Richard has a point. There is a magic in seeing the physical touch to be, for one's mind's eye, as they watch a film, an interpretive film there is an element of seeing something that is really there

even if it does not look completely real and authentic but to see it there it does be interpreted to truth for the viewer. Can we agree sometimes they just look like small things? Sometimes they can look like small things. You shouldn't get at the wrong frame rate, am I right? If you were to go to

muck around frame rates, then perhaps yeah, maybe it could do that. But I'll tell you this much. I offered to him, I'd make him some big at your fab four. How big at the fab four? I'd make the Beatles 1-3. No, I had no interest in it.

1-3. Yeah. I had no interest because my film was entirely found footage. Yeah, that's what you kept saying. Found footage. I said, just let me make them. See, you don't have to use them. You can scam them.

You can just keep them nearby. I said, don't you dare. I said, if I see one large, John Lennon or Paul McCartney or any of the others for that matter. How many points of articulation on these ones? 3, Fab 4. Do they need articulation or their statue? Well, I'm asking.

It depends, doesn't it? Because if he just wants to scan it, we're just doing it still. We could just do them standing still. But we made a wringo. I never told him this. We made a ring. No, no, I told you, I warned you. We made a ringo.

We did a bit of 3D printing for the bones. Just pissing away that R&D budget. Behind your back. How do you told him about his rival war museum? Oh, we made rival war exhibitions. You guys make rival warrants Yes Are that true?

We both have a fascination with the young men sent off What was that? Did you have family? The Anzax. Yeah, the Anzax. I did bug. So you know how you make a money? I did big soldiers.

How big are the soldiers? Oh, sort of three times the size of a man. So like maybe... You're fucking big men. Wow. That's like eight neither or something. They weren't that big. But bird.

They weren't that big. No, that's the point. It was like... What? And I wanted to call them. and big at Chis, and I said, this is why you don't, why we shouldn't have called medium chis. Sereniches. They were never that big to begin with.

Well, that's the point you walk in and you go, look how small I am compared to this boy on the beaches of Gallupol. But he was never that big. There'd be people walking in, waltzing in in Willington. We know. And say, well, I didn't realize those young boys were that big. They didn't have a little thing. Because against the Turks and Gallipoli,

and the turns of Gli saw them coming. They would have run for them. You're getting all excited. decided over nothing made. Pete, we would gather. Think of the Turks. As they're coming into Gallipoli, they're gigantic men.

They would run for the hills. History would have worked out very differently. Do you know what it's like you open a, you open up a Gallipoli exhibition on one end of Wellington, it's not a big city, and then you find out on the other end of Wellington, there's another World War I exhibition,

made a form of friends. Did you not talk about this? I don't know the full story behind, but I just don't have rival exhibitions. Surely you guys. Did it come from a disagreement about how big the soldiers should be? Well, I can assume we can gather, yeah. We can make a two-hour play about these two titans of New Zealand industry.

We really sure. You think I'm an idiot because you think I think that all the boys are Gallifoli were three times as tall as normal people. But you're the idiot because you don't know that I'd realize that. I'm doing it for artistic reasons. We could have joined forces to tell people about the young boys. climbing the beaches of Gallipoli, but instead, you were big this, little that.

We did make a miniature Gallipoli. So there were normal size in your exhibition. So they miniature and then a bigoture fellas on the beach. Well, not a bigoture because that's a mediumcher. Okay. Well, no. Look, let me be honest. To show the true scale of things like Gallipoli,

some things were smaller, yes. Right. But that's in pictures and such. So that wouldn't have confused people. Not as all. I don't think that's... And I would argue that the worry of you guys joining forces had you is that to meet in the middle,

everything just would have been normal size. Which is way too big. Which is too big. Yes, to show the whole of Gallipoli in a museum is too big. It would be the size of Gallipoli. The only place that would fit that is Gallipoli. Gallipoli itself. And then it would have to go on top of it, which would crush it.

Or something the size of Gallipoli. Oh, sure, yes. You'd have to do it as an outdoor. So we had a miniature Gallipoli. Sorry, Alex. I think it's beautiful. You've gotten caught up in this world. I'm sorry.

I love to just see you guys talk. It's, you know, sometimes. I love to be in those observer. Observer of talking. Alexie, speak in the movies. Yeah. Have you seen War of the World starring Ice Cube?

I watched a clip from it this morning. I watch a clip from this morning. Ice Cube, one of my favorite actors. Incredible. Love Ice Cube, doughboy himself from Boys in the Hood.

Just a little mention that we should all watch that film. I will hopefully have watched it by the time this comes out. I've watched it three times. You've watched it three times. I really like it. Wow.

Is the Amazon delivery is amazing. In the context of the film is the scene itself. It's phenomenal. I did see. And they save it. They save it. They save the world through it. They save the Amazon delivery scene for a little later on.

A climatic moment. He's locked in his glass office. Peter, I think you'd love it. Minature Man. Sir Richard. Sir Richard Taylor. That's his superhero name. Sir Richard Taylor.

I make miniatures and bigger. I think you would love the size. What do you think of Ant Man? Yeah. What do you think of Ant Man? Fuck, what, fuck, what did you think of Ant-Man? Because of the miniatures and bigotures. And miniatures and bigotures because...

He himself can go from miniature to bigoture. Would you like that? I think you've fundamentally misunderstood what I like about miniatures. Really? So I think you think that I like little things as... Because Ant-Man is about miniature things. And Quantummania, he goes so miniature that things... That's not what the film's about, though.

You've got to understand is when I make a miniature, I want you to think it's normal. Right. So with a miniature, if he's a miniature, if he goes miniature, then it's not normal, it's miniature. And you have to make it big. But every now and then, they also do shrink large objects down to be miniature. For instance, our vehicles, like vehicles, they'll shrink down. But then it would be... You understand that then I want to then make it...

You don't want us to interpret it as being small. You want us to go, wow, that's the real deal we're seeing that. I'm only interested if the big car was little. So you know how it was a big car before it became a little car? Yes. If that big car was little. If you could see in a special feature, they go, oh wow, look at that normal car that they're kind of walking around. And then we could see in the bonus feature, go, that car was actually a small car.

And we didn't know that until we saw. The little car was even littler. So until we saw the appendicit. So you thought the big car was normal, it's actually one three It's a bigotcher And then we shone it down to a miniature Are you two done?

Because this has gone on long enough What? This shit has gone on long enough I think in the episode This is why I had to go And do a show with them I know, I know You never let me talk about this

Now Wow I can't believe Peter wants to wrap something up Alexi what are you got going on at the moment Tell us about your life Have you got in any miniatures? Oh, Richard, oh, fuck, I'm this close. I'm making some miniatures.

I'm not getting any work from you. I'm going to find it elsewhere. You want any miniatures? I'd love a miniature. Yeah, I love a couple of miniatures. Do you see what? I stop working with him and I've moved to see you on. I don't want's miniatures anymore.

The only job you can get, thank God. Thank God you have the job at Wedder. Because the only other job you could get, Sir Richard, I think, is at Santa's workshop. What? I think the only other job. The hells. I think the only other job that you could get there, you would be satisfied with is working at Santa's workshop.

However, it would be the bane of your existence. Because you would be telling people you're making miniatures and bigotches and other people would just be saying, they're just toys, Richard. What are you talking about? Don't please. I don't open it. I'm just saying, it was just the thought that I had.

It's not unless you put the camera up and change the frame rate, make it look big. That's what I'm interested. Yeah, but the points of articulation. What? If you added points of articulation. They would care about that. It only becomes interesting to me

if the Engelis would have a camera close to it. What I'm saying is. He doesn't make too many human or, like, you know, things that would have points of articulation. Right, but depending on the job description. Treebeed is one of the creatures that he would have made that would have had points of articulation. That's true.

But mostly it's setting stuff, Mark. All I'm trying to say. Like Ministeruth and stuff, you don't need, maybe a drawbridge would be a point of articulation. The two towers, although I have a feeling they only made one and then doubled it with CGRA. You think Eisengarde is the same as Ministerth? I just reckon they made one.

How big do you think artists and guard was? And doubled it in power? How big do you think I was in the biggest? Or the movie that was like at least like the size of the Eureka Tower. Nope, it was one third the size of that. Are you fucking kidding me? He made a mention.

Very big for a miniature. That's huge for a miniature. And then how did you get Gandalf to stand on top of her and then jump off onto a... I don't know, I left that to digital. And how did you do that? I did it through CGI. Comping actually.

Comping, yeah. Yeah, comping. The computer was used to generate that image. I sort of handballed over to digital. That's what we used. to do it. It used to be a dancer. Handball's an Aussie rules term, which means sort of like, with rugby,

you like to throw it backwards. But in Australia, they get the ball and they sort of punch it. They punch the ball. I didn't realize that was a turn of phrase that only applied because of football. Just to wrap up what I was saying. I was just trying to express that. You got to wrap up your dick if you don't want to get pregnant. That's true.

That's true. If you're making love to someone with a uterus and you have a penis and you don't want to get them pregnant, you're a wrap up. Unless they've got one of those little. thungs with the little string. Oh, yeah, they've got a little robot in there. Dungers are still very important for safe six in, uh, yeah,

to prevent from STR these. And even if they've got that little string, infections. Yeah, fuck, I've got it. I've got it new terminology. I knew it was right and I got it right. Even if they've got that little string. Oh, that's a message I want to send all the youth from New Zealand.

You should get RUD. Even if they've got a little string in their vagina, you've still got to wrap it up because you might get it. It's a robot. And I think just, if I can talk to the young people, today. Safe sex is really important because of some of the nasty SDDs are out there, from Chlamydia to gonorrhea to... There's been a rise in syphilis.

Yeah. In syphilis. Not since World War I have we seen so much syphilis. Oh my gosh. So that would have been in your research. Did you ever make like a giant, like a syphilitic sore on your giant World War I? No, that would be ridiculous. But I thought you were so keen on being able to show people how big the history was.

If they had... What are you talking about this episode? All right. Well, look, look, we've had a... giant foot rot. Stop talking about big things and small things. That's all I know. I know.

That's why I was saying, I think the only other job you'd be satisfied in his toy making. Please. Even though it's a compromise. I actually do like toys. We've gone over. The studio is booked. We need to leave the room.

We need to leave the room. Oh, Peter, hello. What are you doing? Don't you start, Sir Richard. Alexi, thank you so much for being on here. Thank you so much. Talking about War of the World starring Ice Cube. A highly recommended film.

I think you'll really enjoy it, as you all should out there in Radio Land. Have a great time and think about big things. Oh, no. Small things and things that are... I try not to. Things that are small things that are big versions of that small thing, which is actually a really big thing. I'll have to get you on at again sometime, Alexi,

and maybe not play such big characters. Oh, but it's... That you do some stuff. I like the big characters. I like to interact with them. But weird to get you here to be our straight guy. Yeah. So apologies for that.

We'll get you back on in a few months. It's very rare that I get to be the straight guy on a podcast. I quite enjoyed that. You're a big character to begin with. Yes, it's true. A big character and a video show. Yes. Thank you, Sir Richard.

Thank you. I do have a podcast. I have a podcast called The Last Video Store where I talk to cool people about their favorite movies. Sick. Mark has been on. Zachary has been on. Brothen has yet to be on.

But we're all waiting for it. It's because I don't watch a lot of movies. Why? You have me. I asked you to be on it. Do you remember, I message you the other day about two hens or the mullet, one of them?

Yeah, you're messaging about mullet. How do you do the video show on your podcast? Gregor Jordan. Greg or Jordan. No, no, don't look at me with crazy in his eyes. How do you do the... Oh, God. So, Richard, I'm going to keep plugging my thing, but I'll say, yes, we on the YouTube of the podcast, we have it in

a green screened video store. Well, have you ever... And I would love to get a miniature made out of all a bigoture one day if you're available. Yeah, but you have to make it. If you're saying it right now, within six months, I want to see proof they've made some things. Sir Richard Taylor, not the real one, the character that I play. So if Zachary Wain makes a miniature video shot, you will put it in the background of one of your podcast. I will do it.

Well, challenge accepted, I would say. So it's called The Last Video Store, check it out. Talk to Cool People About Their Favorite Movies. You talked to Killing Heidi. I thought that was so cool. I talked to Killing Heidi about being on the Spider-Man 2 soundtrack They talked about being on the Spider-Man 2 soundtrack

And what do you do at the end of it When they've said their favourite movies What do you do? I do give them a recommendation based on their taste Really? Yes I still haven't watched the one you recommended it to me That's okay, Zach watched one of the ones

I recommended to him It was I haven't watched the second one yet I watched the first one because I was going on again The first one was the greatest recommendation I've ever received in my life Wow It was like right down the middle of my brain

He's good at recommending, he's a few times gone to me, go and see that film. See, I'm good at it. He's watched three times as many movies as me, so he's three times better, maybe more. I think it goes up and, it goes up in a bigger way, you know? You could monetise that. Well, I try to, that's what I'm doing with this.

But like a personal consultant who tells you what movies to say. Yeah, okay. Well, then, Peter, do you want to chuck me a few of your favorite movies and I'll throw one out to you now? Yeah, sure, so, let's go. Lord of the Rings. No, no, King Kong. King Kong

Yeah, Big touch Bad touch Bad touch Blood gang song Bad touch I'm recommending movies he likes

Oh he loves So you like King Kong And you like I think he likes One's about Planes Oh we watch

The Frightners The other night Yeah I fucking love that movie I love the I love the fightners We have to stop We have to stop

We have to stop Wow He likes King Kong He likes King Kong The original Planet of the Ayes What about Congo It's got a big monkey

Yeah Watch Congo Better Man Better Man Oh, Better Man's great. Better Man. I've seen it. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

Yeah? Yeah, Mighty Joe Young. You're just saying monkey movies or ape movies, primate movies. Primate movies. Mighty Joe Young. What's that one about that with George from Seinfeldon, the monkey at the hotel? Oh, that is Dunstan Checkson. I love Dunstan Checkson.

Watch that. They should have made a miniature hotel for that. Oh, my God. We have to go. Oh, bye. Bye. You've been listening to the Auntie Donna podcast. Thanks for joining us for another rip episode brought to you by Auntie Donner Club.com.

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