Aunty Donna Podcast - April Fool

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Broden and Mark prepare for the most sacred day of the year, April Fool's Day, with a very special guest. Aunty Donna are going on a World Tour*! For information and tickets forThe Magical Dead Cat Tour head to auntydonna.com *USA, Canada, UK, Ireland and Australia Join The Aunty Donna Club: https://www.patreon.com/auntydonnaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

LISTEN ART G'day legends and welcome to another Rep Episode of the Anti-Donna podcast. This week Broden and Mark prepare for the most sacred day of the year, April Fools' Day, with a very special guest. Remember, if you're loving the Anti-Donna pod you can get access to bonus episodes and the video versions at anti-donnaclub.com. Enjoy the podcast. Yeah, listen to the Army, don't have podcasts.

The greatest fucking podcast in the world. Burn my Kentucky sometimes and guess. We hope you enjoy the part of the fucking podcast. Well, it's, oh, no you go. No you. Well, it's March 29th and you know what that means. It's March. It's March.

You alright? You got some shit in my throat. You alright? Hey, hey, hey, you okay? Yeah I'm fine. What is that? Flem. Not a long thing.

Oh it might be. God, God can only hope. I can only hope that the end is near. It's March 29th and we know what that means. March mark. No. No. It means that April 1st is just.

Oh no, sorry. Around. I thought you were doing a word at the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just just just around the corner. It's Saturday. It's on Saturday. It's Wednesday today.

I'm not saying it's Saturday. I'm saying April 1st is Saturday. Yes. April 1st. Saturday. It's Wednesday today. I'm not saying it's Saturday. I'm saying April 1st is Saturday. Yes. April 1st is Saturday. Today is March 29th and I'm sure you're all gearing up to fuck off your friends. Yeah. To do something wild. It's like, fall them up and tell them that their cousin was in a tram accident. Oh, that's so fun. And then go April Fools. Yeah, yeah. But April Fools didn't always start as a day of fooling. Didn't it? I don't know, maybe. That's what the sentence was immense confidence.

I don't know, because that's what we're here to find out. We have a very... I can look it up. Don't. Don't. Why look it up when we can get an expert guest in? Ask me what I'm doing for April Fools. No. Oh God damn it! Maybe if you're a good boy, if you're a good little boy,

maybe I'll ask, or maybe our guest will ask. Oh I hope he's not too silly. Well, we're about to find out because to celebrate April Fools in a couple of days, and you're all busy, you're all planning, you're all getting your pranks ready, put that down, put that hot glue gun down for one second. Yeah, stop cutting people's brakes. What? Stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's less of an April FULL and more of a, I intend for you to die. Yeah. Full. Full. Which would then be an April Fool. Let's welcome our first guest ever, ever? Have we, I guess, before? No. Let's welcome, are you April fooling me?

No, because it's March 29th. And that would be too early to fall, because April Fool's is on Saturday. It's Wednesday. It's April 29th. No. Oh. It's April.

Right, sorry. It's April Fools. Hey, it's all good. It's our guest, March 29th. April Fools. Yes, I am. Hello. I'm nice to meet you.

Ah, and it's going to have to talk a little louder. Oh, yes, sure. Is this not enough now? I'm gonna have to talk a little louder. Oh yeah, sure. This is not enough now. I'm maybe just be more in the mic. Maybe get more in the mic. Yeah, I'm going on quiet in the mic right now. I don't want to get too close to it.

Maybe you could turn up your head. I have a question. I have a question. Yeah, sure. Hi. Are you fooling us right now? I'm sorry. Are you fooling us right now? Am I fooling you right now?

Yes. No, it's March 29th. Yes. When I would I be fooling you? That's a great question. It's not actually March 29th. This is coming out on March 29th. No, it's today.

So it's even earlier than March 29th. They're filming you winking at me. I don't think you quite established how I am. You are April Fool. So that's my name. Yeah, is it? You tell me. Yes it is, yes. Yes.

Now, or is this a prank? No, no, my name is April Augustus Fool. Augustus. Yes, my middle name. Like Augustus Glue. Or Augustus Gelato Rhea. No, it's my middle name. Like Augustus, or Augustus, or Augustus, July to Rio. No, it's actually after my grandfather. Oh, Augustus, that's not full this year all.

Now, there's a very respectable man, landowner, just north of London. All right. Now, April full. Yes. We're all gearing up for this holiday season. I'm gonna shoot someone in the head. No, that's so fool.

So, okay. So, this is what, this is the thing that's just come up. I didn't know this was gonna be an issue. I don't know how to fool. He doesn't know how to fool, because he keeps going to kill his close friends and family. I like to get on public transport with a knife. No, no, no.

See, he'll either stab a stranger, shoot a friend in the head, or cut See, he'll either stab a stranger, shoot a friend in the head, or cut the brakes of one of his family members, not they can't. And I'm just learning this now. This isn't why we got you in. I don't know how to fool.

No, you don't know how to fool. You always take it too far. Me, I just ring up my mum and go, hey, non-the-died. And she's like, how do you know before me? And I go April fools. She does have dementia and she is on her way out. So that call could be very real. Sure. Yeah. That's a good make her. You know what I mean? I don't actually hurt her. I upset her so much she won't speak to me for a couple of months. It's an end I get a break.

If they feel pain and it's brought on by words, but it feels like they've been hit, it's not real pain. No, it's not. And it's funny. Yeah. So, it started with you teaching me about falling, but now... Is it?

Yeah. Well, now... Now to fall. Mr. April. April, Mr. Fall. Yeah, sure. April, April. Are you knighted? Oh, sorry, wasn't it. Yeah, sure. April, April, United.

Oh, sorry, was that? Are you knighted, April Fall? I mean, I suppose technically I'm a Lord, you know. But I am. Is that a Dona? So my parents and my grandfather, you know, yes, there is some land in the family that technically makes me a Lord.

But I, I mean, I wouldn't call myself a lord. How did you make your wealth? Oh yeah, well, you know, that was a hundred years ago. Yeah, a hundred years ago. And tell us about Dr. Strange coming out. And, and, and, and, a bit of a reference to Ben did come about. Yeah, he's family owned people.

Now, I mean, that, if, yeah. That was a bit over my head. Was that a fool? No, not at all. He's family have horrible history. Now, I meant, I was a bit over my head. Was that a fool? No, not at all. He's family, have horrible history. Now I meant just bringing up, come the batch. I get more of a comedy joke. Which is foolish.

Hey Mark. April fool. Oh, you got me. And it's not, and it's actually illegal to do that because it's not April first. So that's one strike against your name. Oh no I'm being sent to prison. What am I going to do? No. Oh, April 4th. Oh, I thought I was going to go to jail.

No, but you will lose some numeric points. Now April 4th, what's your fucking deal? Well, so basically I studied economics at King's College. Well, okay, but, but, right. But how do you, is this leading to how you relate to the day of April full? I have no, nothing to do with the day of April. What? I have absolutely nothing to do with the day of April full. April full's day, all full's day, whatever you call it.

No, my name happens to be April's day. All full's day is one of the words for it. I just look for it. All fulls day. I look fulls day. I look for it. I look for it. I look for it. He's getting mad. He's getting very mad. Well, I'm getting mad. No, I'm not mad. I'm just, what was your question? Your pierced. I don't understand the tone of this podcast. Well, I'm just, I thought we were bringing on an expert on April Fools.

So, like, you've got, he's got the energy of Rufus Soul. Well, that rhymes with Fools. So now I'm even more confused. You know Rufus Soul, April Fools? Yes, I've met Rufus Soul. You've got the energy of Rufus Soul. Sure. Like, you're doing a very good job, Zach, of Rufus Soul. That's what you know.

Where's Rufus Soul from? You know Rufus Soul is the bad're doing a very good job, Zach of Riffus soul. That's what you know. Where's Riffus soul from? You know Riffus soul is the bad guy from a night's tale. Ah, I love Riffus soul. You know him from the first act of the holiday or the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a very... He kinda looks, he's a Jude Law looking mother for that. He's a bad guy.

No, I know. But he's a bad guy. I ask a question. Have you asked me here purely and solely because you think I know anything about April Fools because my name happens to be April Fools? We thought that you were maybe some sort of patron saint of the day or maybe any of a patron subscriber. A Patreon subscriber to the anti-donna club.

Sure. No, no. I'm familiar with Patreon. I think it's such an interesting adaptation of the arts. I have an expert in economics. I have a PhD in economics. I thought it was about that. I thought it was about the economic crisis that's happening in America right now with the bank's shuttling.

I mean, that was my understanding. That's why I thought you'd ask me here. Yeah. And why were you so mean to Kate Winslet? What about you letter on? What are you talking about the holiday? He's talking about Rufussel. I'm not Rufussel. Now, he's April Fools.

My name is April Fools. I work at Melbourne University as a professor in lecture. So handsome. I got an email. Yeah, that's Rufus though. That's not him. But of course, he's got the energy of it. Yeah, that's very true. I Yeah, that's Rufus though. That's not him. I've got the energy of it. Yeah I'm considerably older than Rufus though. How much older? I'm 73. You're 73 years old. I'm a

Spritley 73. I'm a third wife. It's quite a bit younger than me. Okay. Have you met Rufus? So yes, I said that. Where'd you made him? He was doing a play at the national. It's so you saw the play? What play? What play? I couldn't remember what it was about 20 years ago and I saw him. He was quite young then and I was really impressed. I remember every play I've ever seen. Okay, sure. Name him.

Good for you. One, name one play. You've seen Mark. Nicholas Nickelbee. That's a play that Zach and I were in. Yes. Name a professional play. A professional play? One from Melbourne Theatre Company. Oh, the Hamlet. The Hamlet.

Yeah, I saw that. That was great. Fantastic. You win Leslie. He did Hamlet. I never saw him. Yeah, he did it after he did Richard III. Yeah, cool. I saw him. I saw his bed. Simon Phillips directed it a friend of yours. Simon Phillips. Yeah. Oh, no, I don't know Is he British? No, he's Australia. I thought maybe I'm not No, I'm a fan of the theater You know, I certainly love love the theater, but I'm not in any way involved in the in the world What's your etymology mr. Fool of your last name? I Look so the Fools go back, um, probably, uh, at least back until the, the dark ages, and there's, there's wedding records and birth records all the way back to there.

Uh, they came, they believe it's Germanic, they believe the family came just before the dark ages from Germany, but the trail does stop there. Mm-hmm. We, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. The Dark Ages were, I've got to be on the Republic Hell. Oh, sorry. I have to be honest with you. I thought you were asking me here to talk about the fact that you've asked me here to talk about April Fools

is really just awkward. I don't know anything about it. What? Your birthday. April? Oh. Imagine if he says April 3. He says,

Oh, April 3. That's a bit of a coincidence, but. All right. I was hoping you said April 3. No, it was named after the month. You were named after the month. Yeah, I was born April 3. They like the name. I thought you might have been named after the journalist who helps the I was born April 3rd, they liked the name.

I thought you might have been named after the journalist who helps the ninja turtles in their New York exploits. No. April only was born before that was a concept. I'm sorry, I'm not a very funny man. Yeah, that's all right. Well, because we did think when we booked you, yeah.

We thought maybe you knew the history of April Fools Day, which is coming up on Saturday. Yeah, what are you doing for Saturday? What are you going to celebrate April? Put down those pink and she is. Stop trying to fool your friends and listen to this podcast. I'm, you're going to put some glue on someone's deck or something. I might super glue all the seats in our office.

And so when everyone comes down and tries to stand up, their pantaloons rip. I'm going to ask everyone to wear terrible pants. I'm going to go to any intersection of a busy road. What's this? And then like pedestrians will be crossing and I'll pick someone around and push them in front of the train. That's not a fool. That's not a fool. That's a murder. That's a straight up murder. You will lose so many demeric points on your license. Oh, I won't do it then. I need those demeric points. Yeah. I'm on my peas. Yeah. Um, Saturday. Uh, so my son, my youngest son has an issue with his kidneys. So, um, I'm

sorry to hear that. Oh, no, that's a fool. No, no, nothing. Oh, just son. Uh, he's three Jesus Jesus. You had a child when you were 70. Yes, my wife's considerably on how much I was young. How old is your wife? And how long have you been together? She's 38. We've been together for three years. Alright, that's not a big age of four sounds like it can't. No, a 35-year-old woman can make her own choice. She wants the marry a fucking 70-year-old. Go for it. There's no, and did you work together? We worked together, but not no, we worked. She's in science, she works in science. Okay, were you ever her superior?

No, no, no, no, I'm in economics, she's in science. Great, then as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing dodgy going on there. If you've just joined us, we got a 78 year old man on the podcast from his amazing, he's a doctor and economics or some shit from Melbourne uni. Yeah, third wife third wife That's great. It's good for me. He wants to he had a kid when he was 70 Do you feel bad that you're probably gonna be dead before the time the kids 20? Yeah, I had had a vasectomy at the age of in my 50s.

Nice. And I got the procedure reversed because it was so important to my wife. You got your wife fixed. Her that's expensive. I didn't, I had the same concern. And I said that to her, I said, you know, I'm not going to be there for some of those important

life movements. And she said, yeah, I will be. And this is important to me. No, no, that'd be short. It's important to me. What if someone's doing an April Fools prank near her? Pardon? What if, she says she'll be there for her child's life? What if someone's doing an April Fools prank near her? Pardon? What if?

She says she'll be there for her child's life. What if someone's doing an April Fools prank? That worries me. I mean, I'm my eldest, I'm short. Yeah. Some of my older children from my first marriage could take the child in there. Do you still have the energy to like, fuck hard?

Or are you just laying there? It's highly inappropriate. Yeah, Mark. Sorry. Come on, Mark. Sorry, well, look, I thought maybe we could swing into like a sex podcast because we bought April Fool on to talk about April Fool's Day,

which is coming up on Saturday. That was a mistake by us. And that was a mistake by us. What we've invited is an old man, Master of Economics has a young wife, just had a kid. What? Doctor of Economics. Doctor of Economics. Oh, Doctor April Fool.

Doctor Ful. Master's is a different thing. Doctor Ful, you could be a villain to Doctor Strange. Sorry, who's Doctor Strange? Doctor Strange is a man who has a horrible history of family human ownership. Well, the actor, the actor. Oh, sure, sure.

Yeah, no. But is he one of, what is Doctor Strange? He's a white man who learns some ancient, like, how's this relevant? Techniques. How's this relevant to your pocket? He was a surgeon, he was a doctor. His hands got all fucked up.

So can we talk about your sex life? I just want to know if she rides here. No, we can't talk about sex life. All right, I've got something better. All right, this will bring back the podcast on April 4th, Eve. Have we missed an ad break or something? No, never, this podcast been going for three minutes.

Oh God. Now, April, can I call you April? No, never. This podcast been going for three minutes. Oh God. Now, April, can I call you April? Absolutely, yes, my name. I've had a pop quiz for economics. I've wanted to do for a really long time. Could you help us being an expert in economics? Yeah. I want to know what's going on in America

with the banks at the moment. Sure, sure. I'm not super happy with you challenging the character this way. I feel like that's in bad. But yeah, let's do it. No, you are the character this way. I feel like that's in bad. But yeah, let's do it. No, you are a doctor in economics. So let's ask you some economic questions. But it should be pretty easy to answer. It should be pretty easy for me. I, you know, sure, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Happy to do that. Yeah. I can talk about April fools. What would you say? I mean, my knowledge of it is, you know, obviously my name was the same.

So I talk a bit of an interest in my 20s. But let's, this is the agenda in terms of things that we need to tick off. We're going to do an economics pop quiz. Then we're going to talk briefly about the situation in America. Then we're going to talk about April Fools. What situation in America? There's some of talk about April falls. What situation in America? There's some of the banks. How do you not know this?

No, what single situation in America? Like Silicon Valley bank have like shut down. You know, America is a kind of people, and there are people are just pulling their money out of banks because they're scared and the bank system is collapsed. So that's a situation in America. You know, America is one of the largest economies in the world.

You think there's one, because it's relevant to you. You think there's one situation in there? No, because it's happening now. It's not relevant to me. It's just happening now. I don't know that much. No, I understand. Even the way I describe it is probably quite wrong. No, yeah. So I'd like that. Then we're going to talk about April Fools Day and then if we got time, we're we're just gonna, I just wanna know a little bit about your love life. I don't have to be here.

If you've made a mistake of asking me here, I can leave right now. No, no, you have to stay. You must stay legally. You should know this. Economically, you have to stay. Yeah. Oh yeah, so that's true.

You are paying me $200. Otherwise, what a burden and I gonna talk about. I would probably wanna talk about economics. There's a lot of shit I don't wanna get to on economics. Really? Yeah, but I don't want to do with this guy. But he's a doctor. I don't know. I don't know. I don't trust him. I only talk about economics with people who've slowly fed me a bit of liver. Yes, right. Now, what historical event led to the creation of the field macroeconomics, April fall? Was it one?

Dr. April fall. Dr. April 4. The end of World War II, the Great Depression, the US scanning independence from Great Britain, or the Breton Woods agreement. Should be an easy one. Well, I think what you'll find is, it's not as simple as what one thing led to it. Economics is...

Picture-Rufus Soul, that's what I'm doing. Economics is not... I think what we try to do with economics is we try to take complex ideas. We try to take given me the Great question right now The end of the question notions, you know the world has so many different factors at play We try to take those different factors and we try to reduce them down Economics is in its I think and we try to reduce them down. Economics is in its, I think, simplest form.

And I say this to my first years, economics is in its simplest form, the act of reduction. Yeah. And you understand. So we are reducing complicated ideas into simple mathematics. Your dearly daddling. Well, I just don't think that you're dancing

around the question. Are you sure you didn't study politics? I think that question is incredibly reductionist. I refuse to answer. There's just an answer. Well, there isn't. Yeah, for the answer. For the answer.

We're creating a field of macroeconomics. For this, there's four choices and one answer. What one event create, in different ways, they all influence macroeconomics. I then guess one of them. I'm not going to do that. What answer have they given? I'm curious.

No, it's a pop quiz. We'll find out at the end how many you go. Sure. Well, I have a few answers. I'm going to say World War II. Well, I will see if Mark got it right. All those that came before. That's why I've always called Mark the Great Economics

because he'll take a risk. Yeah, I'll roll the dice. Sure. That's why I invested heaps, in Bitcoin, and it's working out right now. I think there's nothing wrong with the idea of a currency untethered by the nation state. It was just think that when it becomes speculative. The horrors of the Great Depression prompted economists, economists, all over the world, including John Maynard Keens, to start examining and debating what governments could do to ease

an economic crisis and what role governments should play in a market economy. So is this the answer? That's right. Right, yeah, well that makes sense. It was the great depression. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That was what prompted it the most.

But all the other answers that were before it. Then why didn't you say that? All the other answers that were before it played into it. What were the other answers? World War II played into the Great Depression, and then everything happened before it. Everything after it. Everything after it. Please, everything after it.

Then influence that in how our modern concept of macroeconomic, are you sweating? I'm just saying our modern concept of macroeconomics is informed, has changed thanks to things like war two. Very well handled. Now just very quickly, what the Breton Woods agreement is? Sure, absolutely. That's a great question about the Breton Woods agreement. What exactly do you need to know about it?

What is it? What is it? What was that agreement made about? Yeah made about? And why does it exist? And this is, I think it's all my first years. What is it? You think you're asking a simple question. Don't you? What is the paradox of thrift? Oh yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's had a multiple choice. Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. There's's paradox of thrift. How about what is thrift? Yeah, sure. Yeah, well, I mean, in regards to economic,

in regards to where you like to shop and get a bargain. Okay, enough about, what are you asking me about Bretton Woods before? Yes, the agreement. Yeah, the agreement from 44, yeah. But, I go good it. He go good it. He go good it. I didn't see that happen. In. But, I Googled it. He Googled it.

He Googled it. I didn't see that happen. In a way, April Fauder. So you don't believe he's a doctor in economics? Well, I know he's played by Zach, so I was, well, I know. Yeah, obviously, Zach is not a doctor in economics. I'm talking about the character.

He's been a doctor, April Fauder. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's sort of, it's a bit of a challenge, I presume. If I was played by a character, which I'm not, if I was played by a character, the challenge of doing like a quiz to him, how's he gonna work around it as an improviser? Proviser.

Tell me, what was the most important choice is? I'm just curious, no. For the paradox of thrift. And as I say to my first years, you know, do you teach anyone else? No, I guess, I mean, I guess she is, it's paradox of thrift. And as I say to my first years, you know, do you teach anyone else? No, I guess, I mean, I guess she is, it's just a fun course. It's real, it's real.

It's real after dirt. I won't be convinced otherwise, that's the research. I really wasn't going for a roof sale. That's just, when I think of roof sale, I think in the end of his rail in dark city, and he's a lot more like, I'm in a city. Oh, that's a good roof is so,

that April fall. So tell me, what was the multiple choice? What was the question again? What is the paradox of thrift? Yeah, the idea that many individuals saving money can actually be bad for an economy. Sure. The idea that saving money can actually harm a person's finances

in the future. Sure. When many people put money in savings, it can spur a country's economic growth. Sure. And when you find super nice stuff at a thrift store. Ha, ha, ha. So luckily for you, you only have to pick one of three. Sure, I'll believe it's that last one, was a joke, of course.

Yeah, it's a paradox of thrift. And I think that's where I come back to that original point when I was saying, what is, you know, what is the paradox of thrift? Is Bill Clintoning? What is the paradox of thrift? Is that the paradox of thrift? When you're talking about what is the paradox of thrift Well paradox of thrift is a very complicated concept. Yeah, okay now if we were to reduce it down

We then put ourselves in a position where through debate argument We've lost that that that that openness to other people's definitions And that's when you get some of the issues we saw in Southeast Asia in the 90s. And when you say other people's definitions, because they had a different definition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of what is that definition? Sure. So for me, the paradox of Thrift, of course, is about the notion of individual versus societal. So it's a basic concept in economics. Where it's called the paradox of thrift.

And what is it? So when we engage, you know, on the sort of larger scales, that's what economics is interested in. We're less interested in the smaller scale and the individual scale. So we encounter problems. And I think this is one of those perfect examples

of a paradox that we encounter when we're looking at a concept. You think we'll get tied. I'm not going to get tied. No, we're looking at paradox. No, but I think you need to understand the basics here. I just know the paradox of thrift is. I reckon it's A.

You're correct. What was A again? What was A again? Well, you tell me. I presume it was something about the idea that the individual's desire for thriftiness has a different, it might be positive for the individual, has a different effect on the larger population. God damn it, you're both right.

And this is the issue of paradoxes. No, I'm not saying what he did was he just took all of the answers and did a general, he generalized it because they're all about an individual doing something. And then it's all lots of individuals do that. I could have done that. I could have said that.

This is an easy one, next one. Yeah, absolutely, sure. What is gross domestic product, the GDP measure? Oh yeah, that is an easy one. And that's the sort of basics I was talking about before. You can't talk about the paradox of thrift, if you don't know what GDP is. What are the options? I'm curious what they've put there,

because the most disgusting product made in people's homes every year. Total salary of everyone in the country minus environmental impact. Sure. The sum of all goods and services and economy producers, the measure of how much money is in the economy. I'd love to throw that back at you boys. Why? Because that's such a basic concept for me.

Something I've been very interested in, some of the post-doctorate work I've been doing, is are these concepts trickling down? We talk about trickle down economics. Do people that aren't experts in economics understand such basic concepts and concepts that the people they're electing do have control over? Well, I've just clicked on it and the answer is the measure of how much money is in the economy. I thought it was say was it say? No, it's day. So it's how much money is economy. So that's in terms of trickling down as

a 78 year old man. Never a little bit of piggy an out trickle Daniel. Absolutely. Absolutely. Off-limits as a topic. Why? I'm not going to talk about my penis, my urine. I'm not going to talk about my love life, my, my, my, my prod, prod, like I'm not going to talk about any of those. I'm just trying to spice up this. This is a dull, dull economic. Richard, talk about the GDP. You're supposed to be about April Fools' Day. Yeah, I know, which is Saturday. I'm supposed to be about fucking economics.

I just want to talk about something fun. What is, what does it look like? What? 78 year old fox at the age of eight year old. That's interesting. I just want to hear what he has to say about the GDP. All right. Well, I don't, I think we've covered that, you know?

No! I love your little prank that you're doing on me right now. It's very fun. Oh, I can see. No, I can't see, but I just, I just, yes. And it's absolutely the wrong answer. He absolutely gave me this.

How am I getting this? Yeah, Mark is actually doing well. How am I getting this? I'm doing, I would be doing quite well as well though. I'm taking slightly educated guesses. Can you, can I also have a question? I'm having fun. You understand I'm having fun with an economic squeeze.

I'm going to encourage you to keep going with this. But it's your job to sort of play the tension if it's better to not do. But I love this. I think it's fun. Yeah, great. Which one of these is not a stage of the business cycle? Peak recession regression trough. Sorry, great. Which one of these is not a stage of the business cycle? Peak recession, regression, trough. Sorry, can you see them again?

Peak recession, regression, trough. See, that's so interesting, isn't it? Which one of these is not? You ask a little slower there. Which of these is not a stage of the business cycle? The business cycle, right? Peak, regression, recession, trough. When was this quiz written?

I mean, such outdated concepts. Is it? Absolutely. Why? The business cycle. Oh, God. God. Keep going.

This is such an outdated idea of capitalism and how business works. But it's an idea that you're familiar with. Oh, yes, I'm so familiar with it. So which one of those terms is not... No, we just go and drive a car into a house. Stop it. Stop. That is not an April fall.

That is a crime. Point an April fall to me then. Point out an April fall. This guy right here. Oh yeah. My name is April fall. Well that's just, I think he's referring more to sort of, you know, one April fall might be you could take an Oreo biscuit

and replace the cream with a sort of toothpaste. All right, that's pretty good. Yeah, here we go. That's pretty good. What is that something you've done? No, I've never done it, but that's one thing you could do. What's something else you could do on a April Fool's Day? I suppose if you had to pick something,

yes, you could do. Gun to your head, you have to pick something. Oh goodness. Actually, gun to your dick. Sure. You're shriveled, old, re-wired dick. Well, I think there's something quite you could you could tell someone that you've If something bad has happened so you could call someone up. I wouldn't do death in the family I'd do something like I do you know, I have to go to I have to go. Oh, I've got to go to America for a conference

I hope much of a pain that will be That's an April fool. Well, I don't know, I don't do this sort of thing. But the Oreo one was pretty good. I saw it on television once. Ask me another question. No, you asked the last one. I don't, this is boring. I asked me something more challenging. I asked me something a little more challenging.

What is, what was the answer then? I don't, I mean, I don't even remember what the question was. I'm going to say, Trough. Do you? Yeah. That's really interesting. That's so- so see a non-committal he's been, so they can jump on it whether I'm right or wrong. Recession is not officially won. All right. And you said, Trough, did you? Yeah. It's interesting because I think you're looking at recession and trough as similar concepts. I don't think I would... I don't think I would punish you too much.

Because the answer was... What was that? Because the answer was... I just thought it was very interesting that you did trough recession. I just think that's such an interesting thing. I think sometimes we get caught up in the words and the terminology. Not the meaning. I think I would have given him half a point.

Yeah, it's because regression was the actual... Yes, this regression. So that's interesting that he would say, you know, this is what I'm talking about. Yeah, question five, sure. You're sure you're not going to be a prank at the end? Because that would be great. Would you like that? I could do something.

No, I don't fake it. What do you mean? I only do it if it's real. I think I want it faked. I want this guy. Can you do me. No, I don't fake it. What is me? Only do it if it's real. I think I want it faked. I want this got, can you do me a favor? We paid you 200 bucks. Someone who works in economy should know that. Can you twist at the end go, actually,

this has all been a prank? Yeah, sure, I can do something. I love that. That'd make me feel better. I am, you've got to understand, I got an email from you. I believe you got my email from my link, didn't I? There's a little boy who emails people for us. Sure.

He called James A. He's a little boy. And he's, we said, get us. Sure, James. James, I don't know who emailed me. He said, we're looking for someone with your expertise to come on a podcast. I thought this would be more intellectual exercise. I thought I'd be talking about my actual expertise.

This is on you, but I'm happy. What would you like me to do at the end of the podcast? I'm really, really, really, really, really, really me to do at the end of the public? The only problem. To be fair, I did outline what the podcast was about. I did a bit of a cursory overview of you. Why don't you read your emails? April full. That's a fair criticism.

I'll take that on. But yeah, there was a subject like, you want 200 bucks in uppercase. Look, I can't recall. I'm not going to keep going. I'm sure you want me to improvise something funny here, but I'm not an improviser. All right. Well, uh, so you like me to reveal that, oh no, no, no, do one more question. But you're just going to dodge it. No, I'm not. I'll give you an answer. What is countercyclical policy? What is countercyclical policy? Yeah.

And what the policy that doesn't make sense to logical... Actually, I think now is a good time. I do know the answer, but now is a good time to reveal. In fact, I am a silly man. And I do like to do April full of pranks on people. Bike? Affle mentioned, Oreo toothpaste. So you did do that. It's not something you saw on television.

Sure, yes. Sure, yeah. Where I feel better. Why is he actually... What is he actually... Shut up, man. It was all a big joke and it's all good. I'm actually very silly, man.

My name is April Fool, not because of a quirk of history, but... Oh. Because I love fooling people on the ground. He's just doing this so confidently. I can't tell whether he's putting it on or whether it's real. I remember the lecture I've been teaching for, and no, actually I haven't been. Yeah, thank you all, thank God. I love pranking people. I love, I love, I'll turn, wearing my left and right shoes the opposite way around walking we're going into the office and If people say anything saying no, it's the new fashion All right

And then I'll reveal to them of course First of April oh, that's so funny. Oh Yeah, yeah, all right. Oh,. Oh yeah. Sorry, that was a, and this of course, I don't know if I specified this. This of course is the April, Oh. This is the April. I'm coming, bro.

I know. Brodyn is coming. Oh. Are you aware of this? Are you aware of what you're doing? Oh, that's better. April Fools has come early. Early, so early, in fact, I pretended to be

a professor of economics of the young life. Oh, wait, what? That's all alive. What the truth is. Yes. I love twist. It's a twist, people.

I like it. It's a comedic twist, Mark. I don't know what to do. And I've come from the comedic twist. Is that a joke? Is that a joke? It doesn't matter. It got me there.

What, you climax? It wasn't about you climaxing. Every episode of the Arnie Donna podcast, it got me there. What, you climb at? It wasn't about you climb at, see? It's every episode of the Arne Dona podcast is about getting me there. Well, you got him there. Thank you so much. I still can't tell whether this was, whether you're faking this or not.

What do you mean? I'm confused as to whether you're doing this because Broden asked you to, or whether you actually, or whether that's real, because you're just doing it so convincingly. Well, is it okay, sure. I don't know what you want from me, man.

I don't know what I want anymore. All I want is for everyone to have a merry, April fool. If you all have a wonderful April fool's. And thank you so much for having me on the podcast. If you ever have a Melbourne University, do drop in. I will.

And thank you for getting Broden, getting him there and getting him the climax. I'm not gonna thank you. I'd go to visit you, Melbourne Uni need me. I'm worried I get a hex that a 20 bucks for visiting Thank you Rufus all for coming in Yes, yes, it was Rufus all I'm coming again. Wait. No. No, he's not Are you anything I want anything I want? Yes, it was, Rufusil, oh I'm coming again. Wait, no, no he's not, are you? Sure. Anything I want, anything I want.

It's too many arcs for me, it's too many lines. You'd hate Noah. You've been listening to the Antidona podcast. Thanks for joining us for another rip episode brought to you by AntidonaClub.com. See you next week!