Bachelor Happy Hour - A Little Piece of Paradise with Jess Girod | Golden Hour

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Today on Golden Hour Kathy and Susan are sitting down with Paradise star Jess Girod! Jess is here to give us all her updates, dish out some advice, and more! We kick off today's episode getting into S...an Diego, a potential second round of Paradise, and who she might want to see on the beach. Then, we get into a game of Red Flag or Red Rose? And of course, we are getting into your listener write ins; you won't want to miss Jess's amazing advice! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:00:48 What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, Psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Hey, thank you guys for joining us. We're so excited to be back, right, Kathy? We are so excited.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And you've got to keep those questions and reviews coming. in because we love hearing them. Here's the question I have. If you are listening to this podcast, you have been able to find us. So if you're searching every week, I have the solution for you. Go to the top of the show and hit the follow button. And then you'll be notified every time there's a new podcast. It'll make your life so easy because we don't want you to miss even one episode.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And just make sure you're checking out all our past ones because they've been pretty good. And we're having so much fun answering your questions. So keep them coming as well. Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And we have some great questions today that we'll get to with our very beautiful special guests. Okay, Susan, before our guests arrive, we have got to talk about Jones Fantasy Suites. I mean, for me, it was the best episode of the season. What did you think?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Oh, I couldn't agree with you more. I actually was so tuned in. You know what? A lot of people give Pascal a hard time. He just showed the world how sweet he really is. And he's just not ready. I think she's more attracted to chalk than anybody. How about you?
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think she's most attracted to chalk. But at the end when she was crying with Pascal, I don't know, let's, I want to just start at the beginning, though, because first of all, Tahiti, I'm so jealous. Ellis. But then she See that water? Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We got to put that on our bucket list, Susan. Okay. She said that she could imagine a future with all three. Here's how she described guys. She said similar lifestyle, handsome. I can imagine a life of them. Pascal, she said, he lives life big. He has a sexy swagger.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But he's the most guarded, she said. And then chalk, she said, was safe and sexy. Here we go again about her guilt with John. You know, her heart is a red flag. So I think she's struggling. I think she feels very, very secure for lifelong with Chalk. Yes. Like her husband had, you know, treated her like a princess.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I think Chalk will do the same thing. Yep, I agree. Okay, what did you think about our bestie Nancy? Oh my God, didn't she look amazing? She looked amazing. Very good advice. I talked to Nancy last night after the show. I said, Nancy, you always.
Starting point is 00:04:26 always do it right she said yeah she said Kathy it was just simple advice I just said follow your heart I said but Nancy sometimes the simplest advice is the best advice and she's but she said Joan was struggling yeah well she cried a little bit she was she had none of us I mean I think personally Kathy I think we all should have been there for her I give her some advice you know sometimes not that it like you know I ask you all the time what do what the and no matter what you say to me, I'm going to make my own mind up. But hearing other people's views sometimes gives you clarity on things that you're not looking at. Well, Susan, especially when it's my advice, you should always listen.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh, God. Help us. Does she have some, too? From soup to nuts. That's right. Damn right. I don't know. Guy, my heart went out to Guy. Like, I think, you know, he may not be the guy that's, you know, roughing it up. up and hiking the Himalayas, but that guy has a sweet heart and he's kind and he's ready. He is ready. It was so clear that, I mean, I did think differently about Pascal, but sticking with Guy for a minute, he really does seem ready.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And I think he's got to, you know, I think if he doesn't get Joan's heart, he's going to have a big time broken heart. And Lake Tahoe is not a bad place to be. You know what? I've been. I'd like to go again. Hello, Guy. No, it was a good show.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It was a really good show, and I cannot wait for men tell all, because that's just fun. It is fun, but wait, I have a question. She said that, Chalk, you know, did you notice that she hugs him longer, she laughs with him? She makes out with him. She truly makes out with him. And the whole entire show, she gives little pecks, little pecks. You know, at some point, Jim, forgive me, because I know you're going to be listening to this.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I thought, oh, does she not have a kiss? And then when I see her with Chuck, I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, I know. It's like, it's pretty clear. I also, though, I have to say, I got to give you some on Pascal, I think the guy, and you know, and I've been accused of this. So I think that's why I empathize with him. Like, I'm louder than life, but, you know, if you really get to me, then my walls come down, too.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And I really saw that last night that he was struggling, you know, he didn't want to hurt her. And he said all my belts and my fancy clothes and my fancy cars and all that. What good is it alone? What good is it alone? But he wasn't ready or he's either not ready or he's, you know, he's, I think the breakup with his other girlfriend is still on his mind. It is affecting him. But Kathy, I'm a firm believer. When the right person comes, your guard does go down.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. She's just not the right person for him. That's all. So wait, did you hear him when he ever said he's not a fighter, he's a lover? And then Joe told him how much she reminded him of John. And then at the end when he said, I mean, I wrote it on my notes in cap, Susan. He said, I know what love is. and I care about you as a friend
Starting point is 00:07:51 but I don't have a spark I just it was like a stab and you know we do know Joan and that had to hurt because she's there to pick her guy you've been on dating sites I mean my cousin Don who's dying to get on our podcast and we're going to devote one whole podcast to
Starting point is 00:08:08 dating sites I promise we need to do that we have so much experience and Donna her and I both were the ones that I'm sorry there's no spark or whatever until just last year she went on this blind date and he said yeah I just didn't feel it and she's like what like he was straight up to her face she goes he could have just text it you know I love it
Starting point is 00:08:32 but I get it when he said those words and he was very kind to Joan about it but he was being real honest and I think it took a lot for him you know to get that far in the show yeah and then say those things I really do so so Pascal I take back most of what I said about you I think that you probably have a, you know, I think everybody has a big heart. It's just finding it sometimes, you know. Pascal, like I sent you a DM. Are you going to call me? I mean, did you really?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Come on, Susan Pesop, did you? But you know what, Kathy, let's chat just for a second. Joan was, she's a softer delivery person than you and I. But what I want everybody to realize, and talk is cheap, but you can decide for yourself to know us, there's a different side to us. I like humor. I like being obnoxiously loud and authentically me. But for men to look at us, like we both said, we're a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And maybe that's why people. No, we have a other side. I know. You know, my sister goes on 100 cruises and one of the ones that I went on with her, her best friend was going. And she said, oh, I can't wait. Your sister's going to be so fun. and my sister Lisa turned around and said, Susan, she's bored. She goes to beds. Everybody thinks
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm this bigger than life, you know, stay up all night kind of girl. Well, I mean, we can do that too. That's the point. We have. I don't know if I could do it anymore, Kath. Oh, come on. I'll get you in the mood. You can do it. Let's go. No, wait, one more thing I want to say, though, to me, which was so telling. She talked two things. I want to say. First, first one is funny. So my daughter came over and watched me last night. And when, was it chalk? Who was she sitting having the, or no, Pascal, who did she have the picnic with on the ground? Anyway, whoever it was, I think it was chalk. My daughter looks at me and she goes, mom, I said, what? She goes, what is wrong with those people? They're old. Why are they making them sit on the ground? Really? On the ground? They don't have chairs? And I burst out laughing. She said, really, they got to up their game.
Starting point is 00:10:46 for these older people. Do you remember? I don't recall which episode it was, but somebody had a role like on all fours to get up and they zoomed in. I go, if I were that person, I'd kill that producer. Really? All right, Katz. We really should get going today. Let's do it. Please welcome Bachelor Nation star, the absolutely stunningly gorgeous Jess Gerard. Are you happy to be here, Jess? so happy to have you. Hi, Jeff. Hi, guys. I am so excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Did I pronounce your last name correctly? Yes, you did. Girard. Gerard. That was very good. Well, you know, I try. So I have a question. You are, how old?
Starting point is 00:11:33 I am 25. Woo. Quarter of a century. Do you remember being back 24th? I do. When is your birthday? I know you're February. February what?
Starting point is 00:11:43 February 16th. Does that make you a single? Is that the cut off? I'm an Aquarius. Honestly, ever since I was a kid, I would always tell people I would say I am two days after Valentine's Day because I am full of sweets and love is what I've been saying since I can remember. You know, that is a good line. Unfortunately, my birthday's in May. So, you know, something about May flowers.
Starting point is 00:12:06 May flowers. May flowers. But, you know, whatever. Yeah, no. That's true. All right. So I want to know, I know that you, you're still roommates with Kylie, I'm assuming. How's that going?
Starting point is 00:12:16 And you're living in San Diego. How's it going? It's so good. Me and Kylie are absolutely loving it. I am getting used to the weather here. It's finally warm again in San Diego. So I feel like you're going to finally... Getting used to the weather?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Wait, just... San Diego has the absolute best weather. No? No. Well, I'm from Florida. So this is like, you know, a little chilly to me. So you don't get humidity, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 How are you feeling about that really temperate ocean water? loving that San Diego water? Oh, no. And that's not in it, like... Get a wetsuit, Jess. Get a web suit, Jess. Yeah, I know. I've been in it like maybe twice and it's just to jump in and jump her right out.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah, it's cold. It's cold. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He doesn't think it's a problem. but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person,
Starting point is 00:13:26 this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend
Starting point is 00:13:41 really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemel Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:14:01 What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your country. constituents and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head
Starting point is 00:14:26 held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast for you. for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. Okay, so I heard a little interesting detail that San Diego is where a lot of Bapsor Nation alums are landing. Tell me why. And who else is there? Who do you hang with? Yeah, so I feel like
Starting point is 00:15:33 I've heard that too. And I mean, I don't blame them. The draw here is amazing. You have the ocean. You have hiking and, you know, the mountains and stuff, all the weather. But I, I, honestly, I haven't really met too many guys. I know, like, obviously, me and Kylie were here. Jen, or she just moved back to the East Coast. And then there's Cat as well. So I have a question, why San Diego? Honestly, my job is remote.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I love Florida, but I've never left. I went to college in Florida. My whole family's in Florida. Are you a Florida? Are you a Florida Gator? No, I'm a Seminole, Florida State. Oh, okay. Seminole. Yep. We don't like the gators around here.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I'll decide. But, yeah, so no one of my family has left Florida. So it was kind of like, one of my 20s. I'm single. Why not just venture out? And I knew I need somewhere with the ocean. And this was like the next best thing, in my opinion. Not L.A. or any other part.
Starting point is 00:16:34 No. No. You picked the best part. You really have. Yeah. So I need some nice, nice southern-ish people. And I know like the San Diego is not very southern, but I feel like it's the closest you can get in California maybe. So let me ask you, are you dating at all? Because one thing that you said somewhere in an interview that just really struck me, that you have to feel it right away. I read that somewhere that you said before you used to give guys time, but now you need to feel it right away. So tell me, are you feeling it right away with anybody? Not at the moment. I think I'm too picky for my own good, but I think right now, since I've just moved here in February, I'm
Starting point is 00:17:14 kind of just soaking in, making new friends here, you know, doing all the cool opportunities and just focusing on that. And then if someone comes along, I'm not against it, but I'm definitely not like searching for it right. Do you think anything's changed in your opinion of dating someone since you've been on the show? For sure. I mean, Bachelor was two years ago, Paradise was a year ago. So, of course, I've had crushes in between those time periods. I feel like I've learned a lot about what I want and I don't want and what I will tolerate, I guess, is the best word. You know I'm going to interrupt on that.
Starting point is 00:17:52 What is one thing you won't tolerate? What's your red flag? I think what I've learned in my most recent situation, I would say, would be that I shouldn't speak louder than words. I think I would let that person tell me something, and then I would wait around for it to happen and never did. So now I'm kind of like, if you say something, you mean it and you show up as that. And if you don't show up as that, I am done.
Starting point is 00:18:16 In short, show me, don't tell me. Yep, yep, exactly. That's a good point. Very good point. That's smart. So if you, you know, who I'd like to know if you would want to bump into somebody on the beach, who would it be? And how would you do things differently if you went back to Paradise?
Starting point is 00:18:35 So think about the beach. what would you do differently in paradise? If anything. If anything, yeah, maybe nothing. Yeah. If anything, I think, I mean, I think no matter of everything I do in life, there's always a learning lesson I can take from it. I think if I were to go back,
Starting point is 00:18:53 I would maybe not go in with such a closed mind on who I'm interested in and be more open. Did you already have that figured out? You mean in your head you knew you liked somebody. Yeah. You kind of like romanticize who could possibly be there. And then we get there. Not in our age, Jess. Not in our age.
Starting point is 00:19:09 We're hoping for somebody. We're just hoping for someone upright and breathing. But carry on. I mean, honestly, same for me. It's rough out here. Oh, Lord. At 25 you're saying that. You're going to finish this interview by yourself.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I need to go get a box of Kleenex because I'm going to burst my tears there. Seriously, Jess. Come on. You are absolutely. You're articulate, you're stunningly beautiful. What the hell? No, wait. I want to know if she would change anything.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You would be more open. Yes, I would be more. Thank you. So Kathy and I were saying this earlier to one another that it used to be the physical thing had to happen, you know. And now as you age, not everybody, including us, aren't as good looking as we were once, but it's about getting to know somebody.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Do you want to get to know people prior to? making a decision in other words. It's not just a physical attraction or who you thought about romanticized. A hundred percent. I feel like, and you guys are going to hate me for saying this, but I feel like at 25, I've noticed a lot of like changes in just like my health
Starting point is 00:20:22 and like having to like work out more to keep up with just like, you know, I feel like you. I'm sorry. It's just being more. Can I just say, you're just beginning. You wait. Start now. I'm so grateful. I'm grateful that I have, you know, everything that I have. But I'm just saying that it's, I'm like, I feel like I used to eat whatever and then I didn't care. And now I'm like, I'm getting, I'm getting more into fitness and trying to be healthy and fit and get muscle. And like, you're living in California. You have to. I mean. Yeah. And I think like being in that. Yeah. And I think being in that position has taught me a lot about just like how, you know, everything changes. And, you know, if you go after looks, that.
Starting point is 00:21:05 will change in 10, 15 years, a couple of years. And so I think 100% I agree that it's all about like who you are, like what your heart is and who you show up as. And I think that's the long lasting thing, not looks. And for sure when I'm going to, you know, find my person. And isn't it also about how a person makes you feel in their company? So wait, can I ask you? You don't have to answer. What happened with you and Blake? I you know it's been so much time I don't really remember much but I just don't think at the end of the day we just weren't a good match I think it was a mutual feeling and I you know I think he's great I wish him the best but it's not a good match yeah okay all right well we want to move on we have a topic of the day that we do we want you to join in with us okay and give us your thoughts all right we've seen some conversation about this online recently do you think dating apps are the best or worst thing to happen to dating culture. We know that so many people have met their person on dating apps and sites, but others argue
Starting point is 00:22:13 it turns into window shopping too many options and no one takes it seriously. What do you think? So I've never had a dating app before. You've never been on a dating app? No. Okay, now I'm going to get the Kleenex box. She's 25. She doesn't need to go on a dating app.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I've married so many couples that met on a dating app, so there is good. But go ahead. Yeah. No, I definitely see there's, I think there's good. I know a lot of friends that have met through dating apps. But, you know, I think for me personally, I want to meet in a more organic way. I have been thinking about if that's something I want to get into since it hasn't worked out for me yet. But, I mean, I think it just depends.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It's, you know, a matter of, like, you match with someone that's looking for something. And if you guys are compatible. Yes. Yes. Wow. What do you think, Kathy? You know, you and I've talked about this. Dating Naps at our age, you know, we're both 39.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And dating naps, I had to them for minutes until you started laughing. But they have not been successful for either one of us. So I agree with the window shopping term. Yeah, my daughter, who is as pretty as you are, Jess, she used to say, she's married now. but she used to say really right up until she met her husband that men on dating apps you're on a date with them and they're having a great time with you but they're sort of looking as women walk by like is there something better out there like who's next you know window shopping like this one's great but what else is out there so I don't know I think that the dating apps are a reality because life has lived so much on the internet if you will But for me, it's just not been successful. What about you, Susan? Oh, I've had all kinds of situations on day.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I have met some nice people that I date it for a while. It was like we don't go hanging nightclubs anymore. You don't meet people. Everybody's on their phone or have an agenda. And today's world, they don't take the time to look around and see what's right in front of you. I've got a great idea. Yeah. Jess, you like the organic way of meeting guys?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yes. Perfect. So do I. Susan, we're going, we're sticking her in the middle. We're walking into a bar and every guy that comes up to her, we're going to ask, where's your uncle? Where's your father? Where's your grandfather? It's going to be perfect. Everybody leaves happy. It's just sad. I mean, I'm not against them because I would love to do that with you guys. Since so many couples fall madly in love. My daughter, she met her husband on a dating app. So I don't think they're all bad. No, of course. I know that when I got off for a few years and then I try it again, the same faces we're still on there. And then, you know, you become pen pals with people. You just chit-chat, but you have no interest in them. I mean, I don't know. I don't say do away with them because some people get good out of them.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. Not so much for us. Yeah, I think it depends on like, you know, if you know what you want and you're not going to, you know, again, tolerate anything, I think it's okay. Because then you can weave through the ones that you know, don't really, don't plan on staying, you know. Yes, yes. anything serious. All right, we have a new game, and this one's Red Flag or Red Rose. We're all going to play. Okay. I think it's self-explanatory. Here we go. We're all single girls here
Starting point is 00:25:44 looking for love. So I thought it would be fun to play a round of dating deal breakers where we would decide if we would either hand a guy a red flag and say, see you later, bye, or give the guy a pass and give him our red rose to see if it could still work. Very bachelor of us, isn't it? I want to get a red rose. I don't care who gives it to me at this point. No, you do because sometimes you wouldn't want to accept it. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:14 All right, here we go. Leaves his shoes all over the house instead of putting them on the shoe rack. What do you think, Jess? Red flag or red rose? Are these stinky shoes? So just imagine coming home and see it and never puts his shoes away. Is that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:36 We'll do red flag. Yeah. How about you, Kathy? Seriously. I would be coming lag. Wait, I want to make sure I understand you too. Now I know why both of you are single. You people are going to toss the guy to the curb because he doesn't put his shoes on the shoe rack.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's every time. And it's like we have guest over. And they're all over the house. Yeah, that would be annoying. Okay, well, no, for me, it is, it is not a red flag. There's so many other things. But, okay, I respect that. I respect you.
Starting point is 00:27:08 All right, doesn't like the same genres of TV shows and movies as you do. That doesn't matter. Yeah, I would do the rose. I would do the rose, too. Yeah. Yeah, we could bring me out. If he's not watching Bachelor Nation, all productions with me, he's out. Okay, how about this one?
Starting point is 00:27:29 has been over 15 minutes late to your first two dates with decent excuses, though. How much over 15 minutes? I mean, it's passable. Depends on the excuse, yeah. What do you think, Jess? If the excuses are good, I would give Rose because sometimes I am late too. That's my thought exactly. The three of us, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:55 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:28:18 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. what do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you're a crime junkie and you, You love crimes. We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right. How about this one? Doesn't officially define the relationship with someone for at least six months. I'm just going to say that depends on age right now why what's the difference I think red flag I want to know
Starting point is 00:30:33 I want to know intentions are we exclusive are we not yeah I'll be home overthinking it you know drive myself crazy oh I didn't realize that's what we meant by define the relationship saying you're in one or not or just free falling you know yeah
Starting point is 00:30:50 you think that's okay I think in the in the abstract it's fine if it were me they've got 24 hours oh here's a no-brainer is constantly rude to wait staff consistently rude to waitstaff consistently rude to consistently I'm being important or constantly consistently what do you think rude to a waitstaff person you're out of you and I have this conversation today I know he did you're out it's a red flag correct Jeff yeah definitely a red flag that's like a very big like sign of like how they treat people in their lives too yes all right go susan okay follows and likes post from other girls on social media um that's a tricky one it is i think it just depends like if it's friends that's okay but if you know it's like they're going out of their way girls they don't know and it's like you know more so like
Starting point is 00:31:52 bikini photos. I feel like that is a little bit of red flag because you're clearly trying to get that person's attention. You know, it's funny. We read like a Q&A questions that people send in one time. And it was exactly about that. Remember, Kathy? Do you remember the advice we gave them? I know what I said. I'd still say it. To me, that's a red flag. Yeah. It's a red flag. It's one thing of, you know, if it's a girlfriend that they've known forever and a girlfriend, you know, a friend. But if you're following a lot, but if you're following a lot, lot of women's posts, girls' posts. Yeah, no. I don't care of their bikinis or what they are. You're clearly wanting to make your statement known that you're around. All right, what about this one? Is obsessed with his mom like number one mama boy vibes? My first thought is I love a man that's close to his mother and respects his mother. but mama boy vibes could be something that you'd be dealing with later on that that would depend for me how about you jess i agree something that i think that it could be something you can work on balance
Starting point is 00:33:02 with because i agree you know i would love for my person to love his mom and have a good relationship with his family the way they treat their mother is the way they'll treat you exactly yeah so if we could if we could create some balance in the future i think it's okay that that That was too generic, that one. You know, you have to get a situation. If he's going to say, my mom knows best and you don't, now that's a whole other story. How about this one?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Okay. I'm just going to, I'm going to read this one, and I'm going to give you, has bad breath, even after mince and brushing teeth. I'm just going to say, in that case, I'm not taking the time to give him a red flag. He is out the door before I even have to say red flag. No way.
Starting point is 00:33:45 That's a health and safety issue. shoe. How about you, Jess? That's sad. Is that something you make a fix? I don't know. Well, that's the point. I dated somebody years and years and years ago. And he was such a nice guy, but every time he opened his mouth of talk,
Starting point is 00:34:01 I would back up. Like, I could never kiss ever. How long did you date him, Susan? No, I didn't. That's the problem. No, I tried. No, frankly, it wasn't a problem. I couldn't. What about you, Jess? Would you date a guy? Come on.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, I don't think I would. I'm glad you said that because you know what? If you said yes, every guy with halitosis was going to be reaching into your DMs. But sometimes it is a condition and they can take care of it. But a lot of times they don't know until someone brings it to their attention. I don't know. But if it's just they're not taking care of themselves down. So let me ask you guys this.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Would you tell someone if their breath was offensive and you were out with them? then would you say give them a mint or something um be real i mean i've i would have climbed out the bathroom window no i've told them i mean like in the mornings i feel like well that's a different story but being out on the date and i'd say you know what you need a mint yeah no no and they thanked me i was embarrassed but yeah i do it no i've said it to a girlfriend they know something you eat i don't know what it is but babe you need a mint i'd probably be like oh i I have a mid, do you want one too? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah. Yeah, I don't think the guys picking up on that, but okay. All right. Won't miss watching a single college football game. So your weekend plans revolve around that. What do you think, Jess? I think that's okay. I mean, I went to Florida State.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So I mean, I went to Florida State. So I would enjoy watching like FSU football games. No, no, no. That was not the question. Any college, all the college games. Not a single one. Let me paint a picture for you here, Jess. You're rolling out of bed.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You're not going for brunch for eggs Benedict. You're cranking up the TV. He's cracking a beer at noon. And he's watching football from noon till 10 p.m. Saturday. Every weekend. Every Saturday. So when your girlfriend invites you out for brunch with her boyfriend,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you have to go by yourself because your boyfriend is cracking, open a beer, rooting for the game. During football season, though, right? Oh, not the Gators. Honestly, I mean, I'll do my own thing. You know, like, I don't need to do everything with him. So, but I wouldn't leave him. If I loved him, I wouldn't leave him.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But he better not be watching the Gators. I'll turn it off. Well, I do watch Sunday football now all winter. Yeah. Oh, but you don't come on, Susan. If I said to you, do you want to go out for lunch and go shopping, you wouldn't say, oh, Kathy, I can. I can. No, that's a dude thing.
Starting point is 00:36:43 That's a dude. How about he hates pets and refuses. to ever have pets in his home? Red flag. Absolutely red flag. Yeah, I'm an animal lover. He has to, I want to, I am looking forward to the day where I find, I'm not looking forward to it to that reason, but like an injured animal I get to take it.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Hey, I've got two geriatric cats, if you're interested. I mean, I love pets, but I don't want any more. I had lots of them, and I don't want any responsibility. So I don't know that, I don't like. the word hates pets and refuses to ever have pets in his home, but I understand if somebody doesn't want a pet. Can I just tell you, I dated a guy, this poor guy, I've talked about it many times on the podcast. Same guy. He is ancient history. But he had a dog, a nice dog. And I have these two cats who I make fun of, but I love them. I've had them since they were five weeks old.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And he wanted me to move in. And I said, my cats are scared to death of dogs. He said, I said, what about my cats? I can't leave my cats. And he said, well, just give them away, find a good home for them. Can I tell you, my blood boiled and without even thinking, I looked at him and I said, Joe, his name was not Joe. Joe, the minute you give away your dog, Sudzy, which was not the dog's name, I will give away my two cats. He looked at me, he goes, I can't give away Sudzy. And I said, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:10 But you know what I can give away? You. I love that. I was furious when he wanted me to get rid of my cats, but, oh, no, not his dog. All right, what about a guy that doesn't have his own car? He doesn't have a car, and you often have to pick, because he doesn't drive himself, so you often have to pick him up. Come on.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Is he helping with any of the bills with the car, maybe? Like, are we splitting it? Jess, you are so practical. You're smart. You're giving them an out. That's a good, no, she's good. Yeah. Give you and out, but if I have to drive, you've got to pay for the gas.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah. I think there's many reasons why someone may not have a car. So I wouldn't knock someone for financial reasons. Jess, you're the sweetest. That's if you live in Manhattan. The inconvenience of having to pick him up, I would hope he would help in other ways, yes. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:04 How about this one? Has a great job and stable income, but seems to be financially irresponsible and spends frivolously, except on a car, of course. I'm kidding. No car. No, I would say that's a red flag because I feel like I would want someone that I can go to to help with my finances and help. I feel like you, you know, if he's like spending money like crazy and not being smart with it, I don't think that's very attractive. And it doesn't have enough to pay the mortgage, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah, or the car. So this last one's a good one, but I want to address something first. Jess, do you know what your love language is? Words of affirmation. Okay. So you know they're all the five of all. him. So he has a totally different love language from you. Is that okay? No. Why? That's actually where I would say no. I mean, if we're going to, like if it's black and white question, I would say
Starting point is 00:39:59 no. I've dated someone whose love language to get, like to receive, he also was words, but to give, it wasn't words. So he never gave me a lot of affirmations. It's not just like compliments. It's just like I'm proud of you or, you know, things like that. And that took a big toll on the relationship because I just didn't feel like he really was present and really cared for me. So I just learned. I always assumed that when I was with someone, that their love language was mine. You know, I know what mine is. So I assumed that was theirs.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized everybody has. And I think I have all of them. But some people like different things. And when I learned that, and I understood what their love language was, I would try to do what they wanted to do. But they didn't try to do what I told them my love language was. So we've had this conversation, explain to me. One of you explained to me, having a different love language,
Starting point is 00:41:08 is it how you received? receive love or how you give love? I never can get this straight. I think there's two ways. For me, I think it's two. I think for me, I like to receive words. Okay. That's your love language. That's your love language. That's what you want to receive. Yes. Yeah. And then I like to get it's the way you feel love. That's your love language. Yeah. And then for me, my giving would be gifts, but it wouldn't be, I like to do like letters or like something like if you mentioned something, I'll remember it and like surprise you with something small like a little like that's paying attention yeah like little things that aren't not like big yes but things that are just like yeah thoughtful so is that so is that why i'm getting
Starting point is 00:41:51 educated here is that why you're saying just that the love languages have to agree because if you're dating a guy whose love language is gifts you don't want gifts you want words of affirmation is so is that what you're saying, that his, his language of love has to be words of affirmation because he wants to receive it and he'd give it. Is that correct? Yes, but I also think in every relationship, you can, you can, you know, it doesn't have to be a set one. I just am referring to my last one where it was just like whenever I would ask for the words of affirmation, it always felt forced. So for me, like, I'd have to be with someone who will happily give words of affirmation, even if that's not their first choice to give. Those little things,
Starting point is 00:42:35 make you so happy and it doesn't cost anything it's not hard to do yeah what that is is a person paying attention to how you feel love it's so easy like everybody in the world should read the book twice it's even as simple as like i really like the song that you played like i just like to like it's just things that i'm you know i says it's paying attention okay well i can't wait i want to move on jess to um we call this little segment advice with jess And you seem such a wise person for 25 years of age. Now, don't get paranoid because people are questioning this and you're going to give them your advice. Right. So we're going to read some questions. So all right, here we go. The first one is from Olive, who's age 22 from Vancouver, Canada.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Hi, Susan and Kathy. I started listening to your podcast over the summer with my mom before I moved away from home. and we loved listening together. Now I'm writing the need of some advice of my own. I just moved to a new city with my college sweetheart close to where he's from. He has been my boyfriend for four years and we were so excited about starting our lives together. I got an adorable apartment and an amazing job in the city and he was still living at home with his parents in the suburbs, but was planning on moving in with me before the end of the year. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:44:01 then a couple of weeks after I moved here out of absolutely nowhere he just broke up with me saying he wanted to quote start fresh unquote after college to say I'm heartbroken and completely distraught is an understatement now I'm in this new city where I don't know anyone but I have this great job my question is do I stay and keep my job in the apartment and try to start my own life here or should I try to find a new job somewhere else or move back home I just feel so lonely, and this isn't how I imagine starting this new chapter off at all. I also worry if I stay here, I'll run into him because he's still planning on moving into the city with friends now. Any advice is appreciated by mom and I can't wait to hear what you say. Wow. All right,
Starting point is 00:44:51 Jess, what do you say? My first thought is, you know, she may have thought that she moved to that city and got that job for him. But I think that is just probably what brought her there and doesn't really need to be the reason why she stays. I think she's there for a reason. I think she should explore because she'll always wonder, you know, what if I stayed? I think this city will have so much more than just him. And thankfully, like kind of like change the mindset because now you get to have a whole new life here and you don't have as many memories with him yet. So create new ones with friends, you know, try new things, go to new workout places, and maybe you will run into him one day, but you'll be so much happier that you did that for yourself. And I would definitely
Starting point is 00:45:35 start dating again. You know what I thought? I would do that. I'm not sure she's ready to start dating, but you know what I thought from lemons come lemonade? Like this could be the greatest gift of learning to be independent and a sense of adventure and trying new things. Something you didn't anticipated. You know, you went from college and living at home to moving to this strange city and now you've got to do it on your own. And that's, in some ways, can be exhilarate. And it'll make you grow up real quick too and learn to depend on yourself. Yeah. So we wish you all the best, Olive, and we hope, let us know how it's going in that new city. We hope you're having a great time. All right. We have another one from Tracy and she's 59 from Dover, Delaware.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Well, she's not far from me. Hey, ladies, I have a question for you. My husband and I are finally getting divorced after a long road of an unhappy marriage. Yay, I am feeling ready and excited to get back out there and date again. Some of my friends have shared mixed opinions on this, so I wanted to hear your thoughts. Some think I need to wait until the divorce is finalized to start dating, while others say it's okay to dive back into dating now. that we are separated and living apart. I feel healed enough to put myself out there and date.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Plus, I have no idea how long our divorce will take. I know for some of my friends, it was months, years before everything was finalized. Do you think it's okay that I get back out there and start dating? Or do you think I need to wait until our divorce is final? So curious about your thoughts on this. And also, if you'd even consider dating someone whose divorce wasn't final. Maybe I'm setting myself up for a lot of rejection. Anyway, love you both and thank you for the advice.
Starting point is 00:47:35 All right, Jesse, you're going first. I think when it comes to putting yourself out there, there's no timeline. I think it's different for everyone. So it's more so check in with yourself if you're ready, after everything you've been through, if you're ready to trust and fall in love again. I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all, as long as she's honest. Yeah, I think we don't, we, as usual, we don't have all the information, but it sounds like they've been very unhappy for a long time. So I think emotionally she's already moved on out of the marriage.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I just think, Susan, you're exactly right. You want to be honest and say that you're in the process. And I'm assuming, Tracy, that you all have filed for divorce and that it's in the works. And, yeah, I don't see any problem with that as long as it's in the works and it's not just, quote, unquote, a trial separation. Yeah, no, I think that's completely hard. But, hey, don't feel guilty. And you know what? I don't want to rain on your parade, but sometimes you don't find dates that well, easy.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I was just going to say, should you tell Tracy what it's like out there in the dating in your 60s? It could be harder than you think. So start now. Yeah, start now, Tracy. It's a long road uphill. Would you wait, Jess, if you were going through a divorce? Would you wait? I mean, I feel like I think it just kind of like what you said,
Starting point is 00:48:59 I have to be honest when I'm dating, but I think it's just a matter of like I would be ready or not. Even if I've been unhappy, I think sometimes it's good. It's different to be unhappy and to be alone and learn self-love. So if I need to love myself again, yeah, it's about me. Yeah, it takes time to hear. I agree. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Well, whatever floats your boat. we've had so much from with you just but god that went so fast i know um this episode of bachelor happy hour's golden hour has come to an end wait wait wait kath right before wait wait just pause i want to ask jess if she has any thoughts or recommendations for us oh for you guys for your dating like yes uh-huh okay i love this um okay i think i'm mean, I don't know how much advice I could give because I'm struggling too. But I think to just continue to stay positive and trust that, you know, who you are meant to be with, it will come when it's supposed to. And you will be your worst enemy if you feel like that won't, that time won't come
Starting point is 00:50:07 because it will. I love that. You hear that? I love that. That's great. You hear that? Because Kathy always says, they're not going to want us. We're old. They want young, men want younger women. She says it all the time. Well, it's only been my experience. That's, it's been my experience that I have friends who are in their 40s and they're, and, you know, some of them, their dads are divorced, whatever, and they say, oh my gosh, you'd be so great. And then they give me this strange look. And I say, what? And I say, you know, you're fun and you're active and you're so cool. But my dad is 65 and he really wants to date a 40 year old. I'm, you know, I'm good, but I can not compete with a 40 year old. Well, and that's not the type of man you want. It will be someone who will
Starting point is 00:50:47 see your beauty inside and out and that's that will be the one all you i'm a hopeless romantic i believe in happily ever after no matter how long it takes yes well on that happy note and truly just thank you truly you are a lovely seriously a lovely young lady we only wish you the best as you go down this road of of growing and looking for love yourself or not whatever you decide you want to do we do we do but call us if you do meet somebody because he might have dad and uncle like that he might have an uncle who wants the date of 40-year-old. Jess, thank you so much for joining us. And thank you out there for listening and make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hours.
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