Bachelor Happy Hour - A Look Back: Hannah Ann Interview, Part 2

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

It’s our final week of spring break, and we’re finishing it up with part two of our biggest Bachelor Happy Hour interview ever. In part two of Hannah Ann’s interview, she breaks down the timeline of how things went down after she and Peter got engaged. Hannah Ann also reveals whether she has talked to Barb since she and Peter broke up.Plus, Hannah Ann reacts to seeing Kim Kardashian West’s tweet of support!See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We still have Hannah Ann here. Part two is dropping now. So here is the rest of that conversation. Let's dive in. so after the engagement goes down you know you guys are together for a few days um i'm assuming at that point it was good obviously you knew he had probably been struggling a little bit but how you had how many happy couple times to which and for the listeners who don't know happy couple it's a weekend where they fly the couple out to l a you stay in a house for a few days to do couple

things and to get to know each other because you can't be in public. So how many of those weekends did you have together? We had, I believe, a total of three, including Australia. Okay. And when you guys were in those moments, I'm assuming you were talking about the future and making plans about what that would look like. We were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments. I mean, we were serious. And really, it was just when the season started, was when I started, you know, to feel his hesitation and that didn't sit well with me. But there again, he was giving me those words of affirmation to keep me there. I'm not a dumbass. I'm not just going to stay with someone, you know, just because of a commitment

and just because I want them. No, he was giving me those words of affirmation that kept me there, that kept, you know, that fueled me to be like, okay, I'm going to fight for this, you know. Yes, we're in an, you know, yes, we're in an, I'm not. normal circumstance but you know what I made this commitment and I love you and I'm going to fight for you you know that's where all that came from did after the season started did y'all have another happy couple couples weekend or was the first time y'all saw each other after the season started when the breakup happened we had a happy couple um the end of December and in January and then the last one was when we broke up and that was like a full month of not seeing each other um which is

a lot of why he blamed how he was struggling and so walk can get into that day, you know, I even have a voicemail from him saying, you know, I love you, can't wait to see you. And going into that day, you know, I knew it was going to be a tough conversation. And we both even said we will move past this. We will, you know, overcome this as a couple, you know, and was that the first time you all had the cameras at the happy couple weekend? So when you saw the cameras, what did you think? I knew something was up. But there again, you know, through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word. And, you know, obviously I'm happy how things ended.

I mean, gosh, I was miserable with them. I mean, I was miserable. Really? Like, once January started or? Once, once January started because the whole wishy-washiness started. And I was just like, I need someone who knows who they are, who knows what they want, and who's not going to be with someone just because their mom told them to. How, I remember being in those moments, how bad was your anxiety in that struggle?

Because when you can't be with your partner and you're still, dates away and you know someone's struggling. And that was so hard. And, you know, I was probably the most ancients I've ever been because you want to make this relationship work. You want to just be normal with your partner and you can't. And so how did you deal

with that? How I dealt with it was I was just focusing on, you know, forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking of us ending this together and the words he was feeding me, you know, we will get through this together, you know, we will you're my fiance, I love you. You know,

your love of my life. That's what fed me, you know, to continue this forward with him. All of us would have fed into that. I mean, he's my fiance. You know, this is a relationship. He's my partner. I trust his words. And, you know, I fell for it. And, you know, showing up to the breakup, I'm like, huh, all these cameras, but we still made that commitment that we were going to, you know, work through it. And, you know, when he actually sat down and told me more of half of the truth he's been telling me, which he couldn't give me a full heart. I was like, I'm tapping out. Sorry. I got to go back to Hannah Brown because you brought it up at tonight at AFR. So it's because it's a huge part that bothered you. And then in talking about it tonight, I guess I still feel

like I don't understand. I know he said that he reached out or wanted to talk to her for closure. But how did y'all in that? Were you just like, okay? Yes, talk to her? Did you ask again, Hey, have you talked to her? Like what? Okay, he said it to you, but then what? The reason why that was brought up is because it wasn't just one woman involved that we were having to discuss. It was, you know, he proposed to me still being in love with Madison and still needing closure with Hannah Brown. Completely blindsided to that.

There's three women involved in this. And that was brought up because that was a huge part of our relationship of him trying to convince me that he needed closure and that I should be understanding. of that and I'm like gosh like but that's what I want to talk about is him trying to convince you yeah yeah like help us understand that like what I don't necessarily need to understand what he was saying to you to convince you but how did that did he say oh I talk to her or were you did you say okay I give you my blessing did you ever follow up and say have you talked to her what happened are you good they on some level had communicated and he came to me saying you know I need to speak with because I need closure and I'm like well why do you need closure like why you're engaged yeah

and I was like wait didn't you have that on the show I should we should probably watch this episode once I watch the episode I'm like well where do your feeling stand he's like well we're engaged but I you know we both just need me and hand around both just need closure and I'm just like okay well can I is this in person is this on and off camera no off camera I'm like okay um I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching that last episode and now you're saying you need closure that kind of doesn't really sit well with me we're engaged like we're not just dating we're engaged so what happened what how did it in it ended and then I needed to support him and I'm just like um I don't know how I quite feel about that and then shortly after that that was where the whole we were shifted to our other

issue of him feeling like he had unresolved issues in regards to watching the show so there was so many issues going on. I'm just, I was miserable. I'm just like trying to figure out who can I talk to. Who can I like figure out like am I just being, um, am I being too sensitive or am I, um, you know, not being treated how I deserve. No, I, okay, coming from somebody who has been in your shoes, there are so many weird factors to start in out this sort of relationship where you don't know where to turn and to add in all these added things. Hannah Brown shouldn't have even been an issue at that point that you shouldn't have had to do with. It shouldn't even have been an argument at that point.

And as this is like the season's going on like how about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling. And then you're just having all these issues, you know, seeing Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah Brown. Now you need to talk to her. It's like, Collie, like, do you think he, part of him, my own rock? Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown in that moment? Yeah. I think he had unresolved issues. Back then or still in January.

I think still in January when he was with you Yeah and that was the argument Did you say that he was in love of her? No, he just said he needed to talk with her And I'm just like, what? Like, we're engaged Like I thought

Yeah That we've moved I thought you've moved past all of that Like I've been completely blindsided Like here I am I don't need to be contacting two exes About having closure Like I'm here, I'm ready for you

And like although I wasn't able to see the whole season, like the audiences now, like I was blindsided to any of this. Well, and you should have been his number one priority. That's where his heart and his worry and his attention should have lied. Is that right?

Should have lied? Whatever. You know, grammar here. But you should have been the number one priority in his life. And it seems like multiple things were taken out away. And I feel for you because I get that.

And it's such a shitty feeling. And where you say you want, to be that support system you wanted to get through it together and like you as a woman in this position it's like you still hurt and you still struggle but you don't know who to talk to because you can't talk to most people about it and if he's struggling you can't talk to him constantly about it because he's trying to work through his own shit and so who did you talk to who did you lean on really it was you know what I didn't even tell I did not even tell my parents until after our breakup because I knew deep down my parents would have said get out and run yeah run for the hills yeah dodge that

bullet um so no one really i mean i was trying to you know for me i made that commitment to him and i thought we were going to be teammates like this is what we work through together um this shouldn't divide us this should make us stronger and that was kind of what i always tried to do and um you know in a breakup i said you know this has to be 50 50 and i haven't been feeling that you made a comment during that breakup and I loved it because it stuck with me you said I am my own rock and in that moment I was sitting there like yes girl like if you're not getting what you need in this relationship and he can't promise all the things he has told you you have to be your own rock and so yeah good for you I mean I'm sure that it came as a blind side and probably one of the hardest breakups because it's not easy when you know millions of people are watching but you you seem like you still have that strength and so kudos to you like that I'm very proud of of you and I get it and I will say this like we still have much to talk about but I will say this is going to be one of the hardest moments in your life but you will be just fine in the future and have all the faith that you will like you this will only make you stronger and

realize what you truly deserve in a relationship yeah I think you already have you know we said it at the top of the podcast you won tonight and not just because you saw what kind of unraveled after you were on stage but just because maybe you had your very voice before, but we saw you find your voice. And you were very matter of fact. And you were very, it was like you knew exactly what you needed to say and what he needed to hear. And he literally couldn't respond to it. He couldn't defend himself because it was kind of like, you're right. You're right. And you stood up to him and said, you took these moments away from me that I can't get back. But you know what? I'm going to be okay because I'm going to get myself through it.

And at the end of the day, that's really what matters. Like you can't depend on somebody else. You realize, like, in those moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. So, like, kudos to you. I'd give you a standing ovation if we were on TV right now. But, like, I think America is going to see how you respond. They already are, right? Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter as we speak. Oh, people are probably Venmoing you money to buy your own drinks right now.

I'm going to, after this podcast, I told Rachel, I'm like, I'm going to Venmoing her. Treat yourself, take yourself out of order. Get that drink. Get that expensive bottle of champagne, girl. because you deserve it. Yeah. I mean, call Kelsey.

I'm sure she's getting like a plethora of champagne, like, companies hitting her out. Dom should sponsor you. I think me and Kelsey need to go out for some champagne later. Girls, you do. And I want to invite myself. I do have a question, though, because you did see tonight. Like, you had one moment.

And then it was like, it was like, that was one half. And then the second half was, kind of what happened after and I'm pretty sure you saw how supportive Barb is of you whether you watched it last night or you saw tonight how she was clapping every single time

you were missing she mentioned she was clapping every time you responded to Peter like against her own son she was clapping for you oh she was eyeing him down she was giving Peter's the mean mug on stage and I'm just like oh my way like I don't know what I think I think people want to know the

love that she has for you. And the love that she has for you is because you love her son or loved her son unconditionally. And that's all a mother really wants to see. And I get they're not in the relationship. And that's a whole, and you know, you and Peter have your own relationship outside of that. But that's what a mother wants for her child. And she saw that in you. Have you talked to Barb since then? Tell the truth. Talk to Barb. And by that, I mean, I'm talking DMs. I'm talking comments. I'm talking texts. Um, Barb after our breakup, she definitely reached out a couple times. I ended up, you know, I love Barb. I do too. I honestly, I could break down crying just thinking about her right now because

I miss her so much. But I knew that forgiveness is the only way forward and I needed to work on leading up to this day to forgive Peter and to move forward and doing that is, you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. And I can't, you know, continue to talk to Barb every day, you know, if I'm trying to move forward from Peter. And, you know, that's been also a heartbreak, you know, not being able to, you know, be a part of Barb in her life. I mean, that's also a heartbreak and a breakup in its own self. And, you know, Barb, she's a really special person and she's just looking out for her son.

She just wants someone to love her son and, you know, to root for his own happiness and to, you know, be in a relationship with him for the right reasons. I love to hear you say that because she's getting such a bad rap because of, like, I understood where her heart was and what she was saying. Maybe she went just a little too far. But I know she was coming from a good place. And people are so crazed over Madison

that nobody is listening to what she's actually saying. So it's very nice to hear you give a different side and the softer side of her. Becca and I both talk to Barb as well. We adore her. And it's just a shame kind of what, I knew tonight she was being very defensive because of the hate that she's receiving online

and she's just trying to tell her side of it and it's just not being received at all. Yeah, I mean, quite honestly, I mean, this has come from an ex-fiancee of Peters, but I mean, you know, Peter deserves the world and deserves someone that will love him with their whole heart

and be there for the right reasons and that's where me and Barb, you know, connect. Okay, I'm going to ask you, Do you think that that's Madison? I don't know her heart. I don't know if, I guess I never really knew if she loved him or not. I mean, she walked away from him. But for me, I loved Peter and I was never going to leave his side, even through the worst.

And I think that's what Barb saw in me. And that's what she, you know, that's what any mother wants for their son is someone to be with them that's going to unconditionally love him. I want to know now since, because tonight was the first time you saw Pete. Peter and his family since the end of January since that break up. Oh, I can barely look over at his family. I knew if I looked over his family, I was just going to start crying. But how was in that moment sitting next to him? Yeah.

Did you still have those feelings of some sort of lingering love? Or are you now to the point? I guess I want to know where you're at. Like, are you at the point where you're like, I wish you the best? I mean, as much as it sucked, thank you for doing what you were doing. Yes, yeah. I'll always have, you know, a special place for him. But, I mean, he's betrayed me, misled me.

And that alone has, and watching back the season, that really resolved a lot of, like, extra feelings I had for him. I mean, just, I'm watching a play-by-play of me getting deceived. And that alone was, you know, a slap in the face. And it's helped me move forward. But, you know, to be honest, when I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, when it's hard to cry and just, you know, I felt like, you know, me and Peter just had this awesome situation and it was like just stripped away from me so

quickly, you know, it was a future that I lost, but more importantly, it was the loss of a person I thought he was. And I think that's what I'm grieving over is the person I thought he was, you know, telling me to trust him. And the words he, you know, gave me that I trusted in were completely um i don't know if you want to call it lies or if you just want to call it shallow that we all thought yeah i mean it's been it's been very difficult i can only imagine and i think that that's what's so therapeutic for be here in this podcast and to talk to you because she knows exactly what it is that you're going through you know i'm a viewer i only watch it and i can only empathize with you it's just it's troubling because we talk to peter before the season or

while he was still filming, and then right when the season started. And I remember we were saying that more than anything for him, we wanted him to find love because we know how badly he wanted it. And we know that he wanted someone to love him unconditionally. That's what he said. That's what he told us. And he had it. And then he let it go.

And then he still doesn't have it. I mean, let's just be honest. I saw what I saw tonight. He still doesn't have. he said it you loved him in a way that he has never been loved before well i would assume that that means the present did he not say that tonight you love me in a way that he hasn't loved before literally you're in a relationship i don't know what he is with madison because we still didn't get you know like a definitive answer on that basically he was still saying you loved him in a way

that she didn't and that's what you wanted and you had it and then you still chase something which don't get me started on how i think that's the issue with men and that's why the bachelors are not successful because they're always chasing something that they can never get and that's why we have only had two that are married at this point and two of them and two of them didn't pick the first one they messed it up well and I don't I don't play the little chasing game sorry Sean yeah Sean yes of course Sean's the like rare beautiful find I know I don't play the whole chasing game I mean I understand you can't you know give to me and everything they want but also at the same time I don't play games either like you or I don't you know

What I say to you, I mean, I'm very clear, I'm concise, and I expect that in return. Yeah. That's my standards. As they should be. Yeah, exactly. It's just be honest with me. I'm going to be honest with you back. You guys, girls on this show, all they want is honesty.

Why has they not learned that? Don't drag me along. And that's what's so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter, you came from a season where the lead, all she wanted was to be loved and loved unconditionally. And he, excuse me, it's not cruel. I don't have to run. I'm just joking. You came, Peter came from a season where there was a lead who was saying,

I just want to be loved and I want someone to give that to me unconditionally. And Peter gave that to her. And then she chose Jed, which I can just put a period there. We all know what came with that. And I would think that going through that. that hurt that you come into your season saying, I want to make sure that I don't make that same mistake. And here you are, it sucks to be in a place of wondering.

And here he is in a place where now it's like unknown. You don't know. You're wondering. And with you, he didn't have that. And what also makes me so upset is when we talk to him, he said, remember this, Becca? You know, who did you, first two things. Who did you pick? Because he was still with you at this point.

And I think we were like, who did you pick, who did you pick? He's like, oh, I can't tell you. I can't tell you. Then he said, we might have said, did you always know? We talked about like our own situation. And he said he has known since week four who his person was. Well, he was with you. Yeah, yeah.

Like the season, I don't even think an episode, when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet. So he was talking about you. So you have known from week four, there are nine, ten weeks of filming. So for what, do the math, six weeks, you knew exactly. who it was that you were going to pick yet you still went back in time and you watched it and you put yourself like it's like Beck and I can talk about this it's the classic thing of the lead you you watch it but you never go back and put yourself in it because months have passed yeah since you felt those same emotions it's insane and it's and it's a weird thing when you watch

it back when you're going on certain dates with certain people sometimes it's easy to like feel the feelings you felt in that moment like yes but be slowly smarter like realize that was months ago you came to this decision and these choices for a certain reason and for him I hoped that in the moment he saw like how different him and Maddie were like you were everything he was saying he wanted and so that's where I think it's harder for the men to separate themselves and to realize oh that was so long ago and I can't like I and this is one thing that Ari kept saying too that I'm not sure if Peter said but he wanted to um well was the phrase he used he wanted to like feel out all of the relationships till the very end to go

through everything to get to that point where he knew who who it was or what his decision would be and it's like they watched this back and they had this skewed timeline in their minds and they think that it's really happening when in reality like no this happened three months ago and my question is and this is what I want to ask you this is not related to what I'm talking about right now But if you were Maddie, granted you guys are very different people, if you were in her position, would you take him back? After everything went down and you saw it all play out how I did, would you take him back?

And, you know, if you look back on this season, you see Peter's pattern of behavior being consistently and decisive and confused. And I'd be running for the hills. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I would, I mean, even, girl, even if he's saying he's loving you and all this stuff, I mean, look at his pattern of behavior. Yeah.

The one consistency he has ever had is being confused, conflicted, and torn. His consistency is inconsistency. Yes. And if you want to ride that emotional roller coaster with him, go for it. I just got off of it. And it's a wild ride. Wait, do you think? Wait, I'm wondering.

It's a wild ride with Peter Weber. If things, for what I, But again, we don't know what the deal is with him and Madison at this point. If things don't work out, do you think he would come back to you? Because we saw it he still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never over Madison. Honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past Peter, whatever. I don't.

He's just like so all over the place. He's so lost. You ended it perfectly when you were like, Peter, Hannah, like, enough. I know. He was like, whew-like, don't give me that confused face any longer. You had enough, and that's why it was such a powerful moment. Like, no, your words don't mean anything. They have no weight at this point.

I think it's going to be interesting to see where you go from here because, again, you won tonight. Oh, thank you. Truly, the indecisiveness is not something that anybody wants to see their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through. And I think that watching this back, you're like, that's not the type of man that I thought Peter was. And that's not what I want to sign up for. And it's very troubling for us because I like Peter. I think I considered him a little brother. but when I look at what's happening now

in his situation with Madison it's something we've said from the beginning. The men like the idea of somebody but not the reality and they don't think about who works in real life and they just get caught up in this fantasy and once the bubble is burst then it doesn't work and I just don't know how this situation can work.

The problem is that when we talk to Bastronation we're talking to a room full of hopeless romantics and they just see a love story and that's what they wish for and they don't think logistically like how this can work and the reality of the situation. And I think that when we end this podcast

and you move on and you go home, actually, I think it's so you moved to LA. We'll talk about that in a second. But, you know, when you leave here, you're going to see how people are going to rally behind you and how you were strong and you were an example. And mothers are going to say, that's what I want my daughter to be

and I want her to respond to men like that and know her self-worth and not compromise who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison, which can I just say is such a contradiction. We are crowning Madison because she knows who she is and she doesn't want to compromise her values for somebody,

but I'm sorry for her to go back to Peter. Is that not exactly what she just did? Don't get me started. Anyways, I've going somewhere with this. I was saying people are going to rally behind you for what you did and they should. Then you're going to have the people who are fanatics and they're going to rally behind Madison and Peter

as hopeless romantics. But then you're going to see a lot of hate also. And the villain unfortunately, and in my opinion unnecessarily, has become Barb because of what happened the first night of the finale, the first part, and then into the second part. Do you agree with the online hate that Barb is getting and that she's going to continue to get? I think that's complete, you know, the online hate Barb's getting is completely unnecessary.

I mean, take that hate somewhere else. She's looking after for her son and no one needs to judge her for that, ever. And everyone loves their babies. Everyone I think in that position would want to- They need a back off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best for their son or daughter. Hannah-Anne, as Rachel said, you... Oh! I'm sorry!

I interrupt this program to let you know. Remember I said people are going to rally behind you? Okay. I guess I was a little too general. Not people. Someone has said, quote, I love Hannah-Anne with four exclamation points. Who, give it to us, Rachael.

Who's the one person you would want to hear from? Who's iconic in this day and age? I don't know, tell me, tell me. Starts the K. K. I'm going to say a Kardashian.

It is. What? Would you like to guess which one? What? Is it Chris? Is it the Mola Bear? No. Kylie?

Kim. Kim. Kyrashian. Kardashian West said 21 minutes ago, quote, I love Hannah Ann, exclamation.

I mean, in the podcast. Okay. If Anna Ann wasn't already winning, damn, Kim Kardashian West, can Hannah Ann get some skims? What else are we selling here?

I need to be extra so I can get some, too. That's huge. Oh, wow, wow. That's huge. I would not even think the queen herself, Kim Kardashian, oh my gosh.

Chris Jenner's a huge fan of the show. Oh, really? Yeah. They have Chris Harrison. They all watch it. Yeah, like Kylie, all of them. Oh, wow. So listen, if another

boss, I'm sorry, we curse on this podcast, if one boss-ass bitch is going to tell you that you're a boss, you better wear the crown. Oh my God. Again, she said, winner, you won tonight. My goodness. I promise you this,

you are going to wake up tomorrow. And first of all, your phone is going to be blowing up. So maybe turn it off, take some time for yourself, but you are going to look at headlines and your name is going to be splattered across so many of them in the best way. as Rachel said people are going to rally behind you people are going to want you to find so much love you

are going to be infiltrated with so much support when I say that you think like what went down was the hardest moment in your life it's going to get so much better and there's going to be so many moments where you're going to be blindsided in the best possible way and your breath is going to be taken away because you're going to be like oh my gosh this person gave me this these kind words and they want me to find love they want me to find a partner like it's it's it's going to be to be in the weirdest way as possible. You can even imagine. So many crazy, cool things have come. I mean, from my breakup, which was the weirdest moment in my life. But, like, your heart is going to be filled in ways that Peter could never have filled it. I'll tell you that. Yeah. I love

that. Yeah. I really do. But now we have to hear what is next in your life. Are you moving to L.A.? Yeah. Yeah. I actually moved this week. So, like, I was like, just buying me a one way ticket. And so I move in literally Thursday. Good for you. And, you know, for me, I got to keep it moving. You know, the situation is unfortunate. And, you know, I gave myself a good couple of days and cried nonstop. And then after that, I'm like, I'm okay. You know, Peter wasted, you know, and I love you. He wasted an engagement, but he's not wasting any more of my tears. Yeah. I got to focus. You're going to be, you're going to be an inspiration to so many girls out there. And even for me, somebody who has been in a similar position, I looked up to you tonight. And I really, I rallied

behind you and I truly do want the best for you, but to see how you handle that situation and that darkness, but everyone has been through a breakup. Everyone has felt that sadness and that darkness and they felt like, where do I turn to now? And they're going to look up to you and they will reach out to you. And so you are going to be a point of light for them. And that's something really, really special. Oh, thank you. Listen, you too. Definitely. I mean, you can talk you too, too, but I'm just saying, like, you guys share something that other people. The broken engagement plan had happened in a way, and you see what's happening with because she's glowing. Like, this is, well, you're glowing now too, but I'm just saying, like, this could be you

too. And I think also, you said something about he took away this moment for you and this engagement. Don't look at it that way because honestly, if you didn't take away myself worse. He didn't take away yourself worth. But also, he really didn't take this engagement away from you because he never really gave himself to you in that moment. So think of it like that. He didn't take that away from you. You still have that. So hold on to that. I was so, I mean, it was so, so proud of you in that moment. And moving on, you got LA, you got a new place. You know, you have this new platform. Yeah. You have an agent? Um, hopefully soon. Hopefully. Pick the right. Oh, I'm sorry. Did you, do not already have an agent like somebody else? Do you not already have

an agent in the situation? Right. I'm so, like, please don't get any started. I don't have an agent right now. So it's not, so not everybody comes. off the bachelor with an agent. No. We'll come back to that part in a second. I was going to say, if anyone needs to know who Rachel is talking about, there's only two girls on stage tonight,

and it's not Hannah-in. I don't have anyone right now. I was just trying to focus on getting through this past week. I mean, I left that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and I've taken time to like rebuild myself. And you know what? I'm still rebuilding. I'm still, you know, feeling

pain every day. But, you know, I'm strong and just like I told Peter, I'm my own rock and I'll get through it while he's kicking rocks so we're not looking for love you're just like all about loving yourself I have not dated

I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family that are consistent and that are true to their word and that are nice and uplifting but hey you know love's definitely in my future hopefully with the right person right time it better be the right guy because now I have like this big sister mentality

over you and so it will be taking shit from any guy you know she's stronger like you're stronger than you think you've learned so much from this opportunity like we're so excited to see I can't wait where you go from here you're in LA the land of opportunity but but Hannah Ann I do live in southern California now so just know when I'm done with this bachelor on stage tour I'm taking you invite Kelsey to we're going to invite Kelsey to her in the bubbles okay I'm making you date me yes no I would love that well and it's crazy because like after our breakup I thought about you Every single day. Every single day.

This is great. Why did you reach out to me? No, because, you know, you know, confidentiality and, you know. I thought about you. And I knew there would be the right time. You really are a good basketball context. You are. You are going to give you a number after this.

We will chat. I seriously. I got about you every day. And, you know, I wish I would have known. I mean, I kind of heard inkling's like in the past couple days, but I really do wish I would have known earlier because 1,000% I would have DM'd you. of Brucho. Oh, my shit.

I'm a little emotional. That was like really beautiful. I'm just so glad you guys could have this moment. Well, listen, we're going to let them have this moment off Mike. We're going to end this podcast. But I just have to say, it is such a pleasure to get to talk to you. I have to say, like I said, at the beginning, I was wrong. We started off the podcast talking about that, but it has really been a great thing to see

you find your voice and to see you grow and to see where you go from here. So again, you won the day. You did. Thank you guys for having me. Well, thank you for being here as, I mean, I can't have her top Rachel because she's just so good with words, but Hannah and you really, you are alike to so many people. I really looked up to you tonight, even though I, you know, could be like your much, much older sister. But thank you for being you. Thank you for standing your ground and showing girls out there what a strong voice can be.

And I wish you all the best. I have no worries that you will be just fine in your future. But thank you. I'm glad that we were your first podcast and we stole your podcast. Fuginity. Yep. Five against virginity. Paradise?

Oh, gosh. I don't know. I just have to ask. I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's going to be better than what I've had. She's being cool. You guys. Who knows? No, it's going to be better.

Hey, I am for Bachelorette in like 20, 22. You'll be 25. You got to wait a second. You got to wait a second for Basterette. I'm going to be honest. I mean, who knows. But it's going to be better than what I've had. And that's what I hold on to.

No, that's right. All right, you guys, thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour. As you can see, we had such a great time just hanging out after the final rose, talking to Hannah Ann. She's just been so open and honest with us and giving us all the tea as well. She did not hold back. So thank you so much for being here with us. And like we said, we just can't wait to see what you have going on for you in the future.

We're fans. Huge fans. Yes. Thank you, Hannah Ann. And thank you, Bachelor Happy Hour for listening. And don't forget, we always love to hear from you all of the comments, questions, concerns, and praises, you can always email us at happy hour at bachelornation.com. And don't forget to subscribe to our podcast, Bachelor Happy Hour.

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