Bachelor Happy Hour - Addressing the What Ifs | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into your fan questions! We kick off the episode reflecting on 2024 and what we’re most excited to bring into the new year. Then, we discuss our topic of the day: What’s one thing you would change about dating culture? And then we get into those questions; our listeners have gotten into some seriously sticky situations and we’re here to help! Plus, we end today’s episode with a “Get to Know Your Hosts” game segment so you can see a fun new side of Kathy and Susan. Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're so excited to be back, huh, Kathy? Oh, sweet. You know, I miss seeing you, Susan. Seeing you, it's just like, it's makes me smile for the day. anyway we are so glad to be back and I don't know we've had some great episodes like we've been interviewing the guys from Jones season we've had some good fun so if you've been missing those you don't know what you're missing you need to get and check them out and how about our year let's just recap I mean it's the end we're into a new year what in a word would you

say about this year of our life? They passed year, 2024? Yes. I would say 2024 was a gift and incredible, can't say one word, and in 2025, I think it's going to be more of the same. What about you? It was magical. It was magical.

It was magical. And I feel grateful and like we deserved it. We really do. Being in touch with all these wonderful people out here. Total strangers that we've never met before in our life. How about it, Kathy? I know it touches you. like it does me.

It doesn't, I don't want to start crying. I know. But I think that is probably the biggest thing for me. Yeah. It's seen the lives that we've touched in a positive way. And our podcast, that we can reach all these people. Yeah. And bring a little humor or a little sadness or a little reality, a little bit of everything.

Aren't you glad, though, you know, when Susan and I are together, which, you know, we seem to spend at least some time of one month together for some reason or another. We make it happen. We make it happen. That's right. She has to do my hair. I mean, come on. It doesn't look like this way because it's magical. She does it. But when people come up to us, I think that's the other big thing for me, sort of in looking back on last year, is we have a platform that we can not only listen to people, but we can make people feel better about themselves. And that to me has been the biggest. I'm so grateful for the opportunity to to positively affect other people's lives because life can be tough. What about you, Susan? What's the biggest thing? I just have enjoyed every single moment of it

and I cannot wait to experience all the things we have yet to do in 25. We're going to start with going out to Carmel and playing golf in Pebble Beach. That's going to be amazing. Then we're going to go to St. Martin and rip up the city again.

We get to stay even longer. I just, you know, we're going to get into our podcast here, but I just want to remind people, it's a new year, it's a new start. Don't let the sad things that have plagued you in 2024. Try to have a positive outlook in 2025 because so much of life is what you make of it. It's so much of it is attitude. Make sure everybody tries to make a new friend this year. Just won't even.

Yeah. You know? I like it. Put that energy out there and it will happen. And Susan, for you and I, we're going to have a date this year. I think we're going to have a date this year. Not together. No.

We're going to each find a date. This is for all the men out there. You know what I realized, Kathy? Somebody said this to me not too long ago. You know, Susan, men your age really aren't on social media. They're not. Like when they told us, oh, your DMs are going to be full, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's not a lot of men that go on Instagram or Facebook.

And so if you're on, I think we're on Facebook. If you're tuning into this, you're hearing us that we are yes, both single. You know, if they could find this podcast under, this might be the time to give our, let's do our, let's give our instructions. Let's do it. Now, if you're here, but you know, you might have friends who want to find us, who say I can't find it. So help them find us. All you got to do is go to Bachelor happy hour, wherever you get. podcast search for bachelor happy hour click the follow button and then scrolled out and you'll see a

picture of susan and me having a grand old time golden hour that's us golden hour because we're golden all right you ready to get in the question of the day okay let's do this go ahead what's one thing you really wish you could change about dating culture oh i've got what's yours i mean mine's so obvious what's yours stop ghosting i don't like somebody the ghost it happens to me it's just mean people ghost why do you think they do that they chickened out well i had several thoughts the one time when it happened to me i thought he's probably married or something and shouldn't have been coming anyhow you know which i'd be glad that he didn't come but yeah like treat people like you want to be treated you wouldn't like being stood up

be honest about who you are. This is why everyone loves you, Susan. I mean, because that's just, that's such a, that's such a obvious and clear and heartfelt that you would change right. No, I agree. I would, I would, I would, I guess mine was a little more selfish in that. I wish that dating culture, I wish that men, and yet we both, women do it too. I wish we didn't just start and stop with the looks of someone.

I wish we could know someone's inner heart a little sooner than we can. Because of the dating sites, you swipe. So something's got to catch your eye for you to stop and read. Well, it has to catch your eye in person too. Yeah. I think I said this selfishly. I said the word selfish because you and I, we goof around. We're silly.

We're bigger than life. But we're also nice people. people judge us for what we portray yet we have a soft side a big heart i know you know i cry like a baby i mean yeah we feel sad when people just don't get us for what we really are there's a lot more to us than just being outspoken i mean i wish it were i i guess the other thing i'm selling myself yeah don't we're not we're not i think the other thing i wish though is that there were more organic ways to meet people because the dating sites suck we all know that we don't want to happen in the grocery store i tried i squeezed the fruit susan what is a grocery store and why would

anyone go there why would you know that even in home depot there you go home depot i'm a free i frequent um okay we have some fan questions okay uh you want to take the first one sure okay this is from claire And Claire asks, hi, Kathy and Susan, I really need your help. My boyfriend really wants to have a threesome. I'm not even opposed to the idea. I'm just really annoyed that he asked, do you think this is a red flag? Wait, didn't we just talk about, wait a second, I have to interrupt. Is there a thing this month on threesomes?

We talked with Guy about a threesome. What is this with threesomes? We were just sleeping in his bed, that's all. All right, carry on. Okay. Do you think this is a red flag? We've been dating for six years, met sophomore year of college, and he says it would be fun to shake things up. He doesn't have anyone in mind, supposedly. What should I do? I'm kind of interested, but I also feel like this is a red flag. He's never asked for something like this before. Any advice would be great. Well, can I just, can I just dive in here? it's not like they're married 40 years and it's getting boring and trying to liven it up a little this is young this would be called out claire this would be called a bleeding crimson red flag but wait a minute she's not opposed to so so go for it but you know what when you're done with a threesome and he wants a six some and you find out he's it's it's not a good it doesn't bode well for a relationship

ship that ultimately I'm guessing you're going to want monogamous and the shit the horses out of the barn whatever it's called I don't know Susan be honest well let's just say this how about if she now how about if she says two men and me you and another man no no no for him I wonder if he changes tune does he just want two women I mean think about it he's suggesting it see you stay up late nights thinking of the solutions to these problems just like clear it's a red flag you know if you're interested go for it but and that's okay by the way let me just say not everyone wants some kind of interested not everyone wants a monogamous relationship i get it i'm a weirdo because you know i want the guy who loves me and i love and wants to spend

the rest of his life with me which i know is weird not um so i would say what you should do is what you feel like doing but understand as my mother once told me there are consequences for your actions. And this may change permanently and irrevocably the dynamics of your relationship. Yes, it could. But if she's interested, I'm just saying, if you're both there, try it that way. Yeah, I mean, go ahead and try it. I'm just saying. See if he still feels the same way about two men and a woman instead of two women. And that's where I would want to know. Well, what if? Sometimes guys just want to get off with two women. I mean, I get it. How do you know these things, Susan? I'm just worldly, cat. See, I was home baking brownies. You got married at 20. You didn't even get to date.

You just got married. And you had a great marriage. So consider yourself very fortunate. And you know what? If I find Mr. Wright again, we are not having a threesome. No, I don't believe me. I don't like to share my men. I like them all to myself. Yeah, well, I hear you. I'm not in the mood to share either, so... I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics.

On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself.

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Okay, this one's from Anonymous. Kathy and Susan, I am freaking out and I need you. The other night, I noticed that my boyfriend liked his exes really hot picture. Like I literally saw her picture on his phone and watched him like it. Wait, are we just having bleeding red flags? here today. Okay, I kept my composure and went to the bathroom to do some investigating. Sure, she did. Turns out he's been liking all of her pictures for basically all of our relationship. I was going to ask how I should bring it up to him, but I just realized, I just realized I sent

crying, emojis, and a screenshot of the offense to him instead of my best friend. Oh, sure. Do you believe that? Okay. So now I have to talk about it. I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow so we're dealing it with when I'm back in a week. Help. I got to say, I don't believe for one minute she sent it by a mistake. You did it because you wanted him to know. You saw him hit like you say it right then and there. You don't go in the bathroom to investigate. You say what the F? I mean, really, what is going on? Why are you liking that? And why are you? I mean, here's my thing. We don't know how old this girl is, but there's so many men in the sea when you're young why would you put up with someone who i'm sorry i'm

sounding old-fashioned today maybe he's still that's still that's something for his ex i mean i'm sure he does why else would you let's go down this red susan why in god's on god's green earth would you be doing that why why why what what what do you say why would you be doing what What are you saying? Why would you, either side, why would you be liking your ex's photos? I know. No, no, I'm, it's a serious question. Why?

And a hot picture, no less. Because he thinks it's hot. Men don't even think about other people's feelings, I guess. Yeah. And for you to go to the bathroom to hide and investigate? No, girl. You think this anonymous is ready? You think she or he is ready for a relationship?

She's crying in her panties in the bathroom. and he's busy liking his ex-girlfriend. I mean, what the heck? I say both of you need to grow up. Am I being mean? No, that's not mean, but like I said, call it right when you say it. Don't hold on to it.

Okay, let's play this game. You call, I'm the guy, call it, call me on it. You're the girl crying in the bathroom. Call me on it. No, I didn't go to the bathroom. I'm right there when you hit, like, really? You liked it a lot? Is that what you want?

Talk to me. What's your issue? She's an ex-girlfriend. We're just social friend. We're just friends on. Facebook and Insta. Now you're going to like them all? Go get her then if that's what you like. Well, but I love you. I want you. But I'm just liking her pictures. Okay. Then when I get online and like all my exes, are you going to be bothered by it?

Because if you're not, okay, we're cool. No, we're not cool. See, that's where you and I are different. If this guy defended his right to like hot pictures and maintain a relationship with his ex, I am yesterday's news to him. I'm out the door and on my way to find a a new guy. Because I got to be number one. That's right. All right. I feel so harsh today. I don't mean to. It's just like, to me, these are like bleeding. No brainers, but it's a different world, Kathy, than when we grew up. It really is. You know what? There's color TV and cell phones. There's another anonymous. Hi, ladies. I really need your help with my mom. I love her so much, but our relationship is so rocky. Growing up, I was always getting straight.

great A's and never got into trouble. But my mom still found ways to ground me. I'm 24 now and we've made a lot of progress. But I think I need to create some serious boundaries. She doesn't respect me when I need space and she gets really, really emotional. Any disagreement, no matter how small, gets out of hand. It gets so out of hand. It sounds like two sisters arguing. And I feel like I often have to be the parent in the situation. How do I create boundaries without ending our relationship? I pay for everything myself so money isn't an issue. I just don't want to lose my mom. How old is she 24? Maybe it's time to get a place of your own and build a different kind of relationship that she doesn't see every single. We're back on the agreement train again. That's right. That's exactly where I was going.

I don't know, I don't know anonymous if your mom is envious or jealous of your situation. When you say two sisters arguing, you know, my mom was always my mom. We didn't get along. But when I had my own daughter, we would fight sometimes because mothers and daughters do. But we never fought as sisters. I would say to her, I am your mom, not your friend. um so there might be some relationship issues there uh that your mom treats you more like a friend instead of a daughter and also maybe there's not a dad around and it's just the two of them that's what

um maybe um the way you create boundaries is to create your own space it's short and simple anonymous it's time for you if you're if you're still in school i get it you might need another year or so but you need to respect your mom and her home if i'm assuming we're making a lot of assumptions here need your own space yeah yeah we're making a lot of assumptions we're assuming that you you live with her that uh grant uh i'm sorry grounding you at 24 uh so there's we don't have enough information here why are you still living at home um are you working and paying rent um what's the deal she says she's paying for everything so yeah she pays for her So if money's not an issue, my dear, you said it yourself.

I pay for everything myself so money isn't an issue, then you know what? Go get yourself a place to live because money's not an issue. And then the time you spend with your mom will be good. Exactly. Problem solved. Let us know how it goes on us. We wish you luck. Okay.

Question four, Molly asks, hi ladies, I need your help. I went on a first date last night. Well, Molly, you lucky duck. you and we ended oh wait a second and we ended up sleeping together maybe not so lucky we had such great chemistry the whole night and it just sort of happened i really like him and was really excited this morning when we grabbed coffee before he brought me home he's going out of course he is he's going out of town this week with his family so he told me he'd see me when he gets home the problem is i told my friend this and now she's worried that because we slept

together, nothing serious will happen. Is that true? Susan, get out your crystal ball. Are there any signs I should be looking out for? I really like them and I really cannot go on another first date. First of all, you can go on another first date. It'll take a minute. But you got to just see what happens now. You did what you did. Probably regretfully because nobody wants to put it out the first night because I know the chemistry was great I know all about it but nine times out of 10 that's not the person they want the long-term relationship with yeah gotta hold the goods for a little bit here's exactly here's here's the thing why would you buy the cow when you get the milk for free but that's already done so I know so so is there something you

should be looking out for you know again Susan and I of a certain age um you know having sex on the first date it's not always a bad thing but now you've got yourself in a situation are the things i should be looking out for yeah looking out and see if he contacts you would be number one that's exactly do not reach out to him wait to see if he reaches out to you um you said you really like him you barely know him molly you don't know anything about him except he might have been pretty good and pleased her cat so she liked it oh god has it always come down to sex for you susan well that's what i'm reading they had sex oh yeah yi um you when you say you can't go on a first date you sound a little needy girlfriend um you know did you think if you didn't have sex of them

you weren't going to hear from him again i think yeah i wonder did it just happen and sometimes it does the passion is there but stop the presses go ahead what doesn't just happen sex does not just happen clothes have to come off No it doesn't just happen People make choices to have sex And please God tell me you You use some protection Because the last thing we need is another unwanted child

In this world Or worse Or worse Because you don't know where each other's been Yeah you got to check all those boxes Before you do that But maybe they slept together So maybe I don't know how far they went

You know? I mean your friend said you slept together on the first date so nothing serious will happen you know Molly there's some old adages tried and true things I already said one when you get the milk for free why buy the cow

another one is the guys that sleep with you too soon on a date you're not the one they're going to bring home to meet mama so you're not going to be respected so you know these are things that you're young and you think that you

know what you want but in the end maybe maybe it's time to slow your role and think about what you really want and or on the other hand I've known people that that they've done that and they've been together ever since so is that possibility but think before you do stuff that's all yeah think and and Susan's right don't reach out and text him he maybe goes to you and it may be one it may be one and done you could do it once to let him know that you're interested but do not repeat it let him reach out to you yeah and then you're there with open arms when it gets. Yeah. Well, you know, I truly wish you the best. I really hope, though, that you do go on several more first dates because that's how you find the right person for you.

If it's not this guy, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Hopefully you'll have chemistry with a lot of guys and you'll meet the guy that really, really makes you happy. And you may or may not know that on a first date. Yeah, I know. Now it's time to get to know. Let us know when he comes home a week from now. reach out to us on bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Please let us know. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation

about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress.

And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault. on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land.

the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, until this. Pull that. Turn this. It's just, I can do it my eyes close. I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin.

And on our new show, no such thing. We get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then, as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing.

Listen to no such thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. All right. So today we're going to be, oh, go ahead. Today we're going to be answering more fun questions about our past so you guys can get to know us even better. Kathy, do you want to read us the first one? Yeah, I'm glad you have to answer this one. What was the first car you ever drove? And what was it like when you first learned how to drive?

The first car was a Mustang. Actually, the very first car I ever drove was a pickup truck. I didn't have my license. And it was an emergency. And I had to drive. And it was a stick shift, too. Wow, was that scary? But my dad taught me to drive.

My first car was a Mustang. Oh, cool. So the first car ever drove was, you know, I think it was my mom, Chevy Impala, and, you know, it was fun. But my best first driving story was when I was married at 20, living in Scotland, we got a car. And that's where I learned to drive a stick shift. And I drove the car, obviously, the steering wheel was on the right side of the car. So I learned to drive a stick shift, shifting with my left hand using the clutch, the whole thing. And so that was my fun, fun story.

Wow. When you were a kid, what was your favorite thing to have for dinner? Oh, gosh, why Kathy? She's not the foodie. You know what? My mother was, I can cook. My mother was a horrible cook. And Saturday nights we had train wreck.

It was all the leftovers from the week. So my favorite thing to have for dinner was on Friday nights, she would take us out to Howard Johnson's. and we'd have the fish fry, and it was so delicious to have French fries and fried fish that came from, you know, probably the harbor in Boston. What about you? That's a hard one for me because my father was a butcher. My mom was a good cook.

I used to like chicken or veal cutlets. Seriously, as a child, you had veal cutlets. Absolutely. Oh, jeez. I was lucky if I got a pork-boiled hot dog. Steak night was always good. Oh, please. Okay, what was your best friend like? Your first best friend? Blonde.

Blonde? She was blonde. Yes. She was smart. She was a cheerleader with me. We were a lot of like. Oh, gosh. My first best friend, her name was Betsy. Now she goes by Liza. She is a rabbi in Massachusetts. now we still every once in a while connect with each other i loved betsy her dad worked for a very famous clothing store in boston and i would go to her house after school in first grade and her mother had all these beautiful clothes on the bed betsy pick out whatever you'd like and you know my mother dressed us from the salvation army if i was lucky so it was like it was like going to a a castle and watching the beautiful clothes and I just remember I wish I had had all the beautiful things that she had.

Okay, when did you take your first vacation as a young adult and where was it? We never took vacations. No. As a young adult, so that would mean on our own. I was married, my honeymoon. Yeah. Before my senior week, we went to over Easter vacation, Easter break, and we went to Fort Lauderdale. used to be the big thing.

Wait, for a lot of, no, I just remember my, my sophomore year in high school, my dad was working in Florida. So we went and we lived in Florida for the summer and they took us all to the Bahamas. And we went to the gambling casino. But not with your parents, your first adult, young adult. Oh, it doesn't say that. It says when did you take your first as a young, oh, a young adult? As a young adult.

Oh, well, that was. Did you ever go away with your girlfriends before you married or now? I was barely, barely legal before I got married. No, but my first, when I can tell you this, my first trip after I got married, we didn't take a honeymoon because my husband had to report to Georgia for Naval Supply Corps school. And so we didn't get a honeymoon. Our, our, my first vacation was our first anniversary. We were supposed to go to Paris and he had his leave canceled. So I went with a bunch of the women to Paris.

That was my first. Oh, there you go. There you go. That's a nice one. Okay. All right. What was the time? I don't want to talk about my youth. It was miserable. What was the time in your youth that you got out of a sticky situation? Oh, this ought to be good.

When did you get out of a sticky situation on skates, Susan? I never got out of anything. I got caught doing everything. I was going to say, swimming in the pools, climbing over the fences, you got caught. What's the biggest risk you've ever taken? biggest risk that I knew I was taking I mean I think the biggest risk I ever took but it was unwitting was getting married at 20 but it was a great risk and it was a you know a great a great ride I think the biggest risk I ever took that I knew I was taking was going on the golden bachelor yeah I was just

going to say that yeah that was the because I knew what I was getting myself into you two your high school reunion I've never been to a reunion Oh, you're kidding. No. Why? I've told you this, Susan, and I think I've said it on the podcast, I weighed almost 200 pounds. All the more reason looking as good as you do. Well, I didn't know.

I was pretty much of a quiet girl in high school, believe it or not. It is hard to believe. I was. And so I never went to my reunions. and I don't really want to go to. Is there a specific reason? I just, it's, it, I feel like it would be going back and seeing strangers. The small group of friends I had, most of them don't, didn't go back.

You got to remember, I graduated high school in the drug culture just when it was the early 70s. Drugs were becoming a big thing. It wasn't cool to go to reunion. So, no, I've never been to mine. I've been to all of them. Of course you have. I don't understand why somebody wouldn't come. Well, first of all, let me say to you, you live in the same town you grew up in.

Kind of, yeah. Yeah. So you really, other than living a short time in Dallas. But most of the time I had a fly in, I was in Texas, Dallas, Texas. I'm saying, but your friend, my point is you've maintained many of your childhood friends. I left Massachusetts. I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts. I left when I was 20.

And other than to visit family, I haven't been back. So when I go back, I still have a few friends that I keep in contact with high school. Do you get notified when there's a reunion? Like, were you told? Well, the last one they tried to have was during COVID. And they tried to have it two or three times. And they gave up. They gave up.

And now, honestly, Susan, when I see pictures of my high school friends on Facebook, a few of the guys that I've known since grade school, they still reach out to me. They're great guys. Jimmy, if you can hear me. Larry, if you can hear me, you're great. They reach out, but for the most part, I wouldn't know guys, people that I went to high school with. I went to an all-girls

high school. So it's a different field. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Oh, well, this is which of your current friends have you known the longest? Gosh, I've known them all for 30 plus years. Are you serious?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How did your parents come up with your name? And were you almost name something else? So this is an interesting story for me. How am I supposed to know what my parents were thinking? My parents, well, I actually asked my parents this question. My parents had five children in six years, one set of twins. my grandmother, my mother's mother, who I, who was, who actually was the kindest person in my life as a child, her first name was Helen, and that is my middle name. And I gave it up when I got married and took my maiden name, Block, but I still love that name, Helen. Because of that person. Because of that.

My name, Catherine, I don't know where it came from. you know i don't know why they didn't name me helen after after her mother um but my nickname as a child was kiki and guess what my grandmother name is kiki kiki so that's that that that's uh what about you what about you i have no idea they name me susan and that stuck well you know kathy and susan were very popular names back in the 50s and 60s you know they were a dime a dozen everybody i have a sister susan yeah i have a sister susan i have a sister susan i have a sister susan i I have a cousin, you know, you have a cousin, Donna. Okay.

Did you ever have an ex or lost love reach out to you later in life? I bet you did. Yes, all of them. But the most important one was his wife, I'm going to cry, his wife reached out to me because he was killed in a car accident. I couldn't imagine how she even knew of me. But he must have shared. it was my first real love you know yeah yeah well i know this will sound as a shocker to you but the only you didn't have a lot of the exes i had i had one guy in high school his name was seth so

susan i have a funny story my husband um this guy seth never saw him after i graduated high school um eight nine 10 years later i am in cambridge my husband's in graduate school and i'm walking in Harvard Square, and I see this guy, Seth, coming at me. I see him. And I was like, you know, it was like, I mean, it was nice to see him, but obviously there was nothing there. And I said, oh, Seth, it's so great. I did.

I said, it's so great to see you. I'd love to have you come over. You know, my husband's in business school, we don't have any money, but I'd love to have you come over and I'll make spaghetti. Why would you tell him we don't have any money? Because we had no money. We were putting ourselves. Well, because I wasn't going to feed him a fancy meal.

I was in school full-time at university in Boston and working full-time. And my husband was a full-time student. So we had nothing and happy days of our lives. But anyway, I said to him, I'd love to have you over. We live, you know, just down the street. I'd love to have you come over. I'll make spaghetti. And as you know, Susan, I don't cook.

So that was a big undertaking. Do you know what he said to me? And this was when I was like, boy, if I needed another reason. that I had the wrong guy. He said, well, I'd love to come for dinner, but, you know, I'm vegan, so I couldn't have the meatballs. And I looked and I went, okay, I'll give you a pasta. That was it.

I hadn't seen the guy in 10 years. I had to hear he was vegan. Okay, Seth, good for you. Yeah, and that was, and did you ever come for dinner? Yeah, we're ending on that one. Yeah, we're ending on that one. He never came for dinner. It was over and out.

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