Bachelor Happy Hour - Alexe shares her side of the story

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Alexe opens up about the ups and downs of her time in Paradise. In a vulnerable conversation with Joe and Serena, Alexe opens up about struggling to find a romantic connection early on, how her pre-paradise friendship with Jeremy affected decisions she made and why Andrew's entrance into Paradise changed everything. Plus, she discusses any strategy she and Andrew employed once the show switched into competition mode and how Andrew jumping in to say "I love you" first made her feel safe in their relationship. Listen now for this and so much more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members

and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she going to keep it a century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bed for Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Alex. Alex, welcome back to the podcast. Hello. How are you guys? you're good how are you I'm good thank you okay so I'm not going to ask you were you shocked

to go on I think you were kind of a no-brainer somebody that was going to be asked to go on paradise you go on paradise were you excited what were you hoping for you just asked a question to Alex and then answered it for her I love it thank you said were you from No, you weren't. Let's keep in a surprise, but you weren't excited at all, actually. No, I was really excited, honestly. I think that was definitely more in my wheelhouse than The Bachelor. I think I kind of love, even though it didn't come off that I'm a flirt,

I love to flirt. Maybe it's a little awkward, but I love it. So having all these different dynamics and relationships to kind of test out definitely was really fun. And I was very excited going into it. Yeah. And I think it looks like you could flirt. I mean, I think, you know, being contestants that have been on the show, I understand when like, you know, like, because I was always kind of portrayed as more the awkward one. So they really like highlight that. And then I was like, you kind of like question your character. You're like, I'm looking at my friends. I'm like, am I not awkward? And they're like, no, not at all. But we can talk about it later. I think a lot of it too is I, when it comes to feelings and emotions, that's when I get a little uncomfortable. And I think because that's the premise of the show, more of my quirks came out for sure. Yeah.

And it's like there are, but there are more sides view than just being awkward. Like there are more sides to me besides being awkward. Yeah. Are we like an awkward trio? Is Serena awkward too? No, Sarina's like you guys are both fucking awkward. So it's this conversation right now. You guys are both a little awkward.

But I love it. I love a little quirkiness. I also think people forget watching that your first language is French. that's another thing too that people forget and I was telling everybody on the show and they knew is sometimes it would take me time to process certain things or like jokes and Andrew would always sound the show like I kind of a risk taker I would like say jokes and sometimes it wouldn't land so then I so I so I and for me to not be embarrassed I would like make it a little awkward so it's funny you know so I think that came into play also a lot okay so you you get down the paradise

and it's you and Jonathan and you know as a viewer watching it it definitely seems like there's something missing yeah I will be honest in the first episode you're in that love triangle and I actually thought you were going to send Jonathan home I okay so that's interesting

I definitely had more chemistry I think with Ricky for sure but there were certain signs that happened and you have such a short time that you have to make a quick decision. So you have to look at every little thing and be nitty, needy gritty of things. And I think what really made my decision swayed to Jonathan is I saw more potential than Jonathan and then kind of like the little feud with or the little tiff with

Hakeem and certain things that were said that I didn't really align with who I was. I wanted to kind of play it differently this time around and not go with what I'm feeling now, but also what is going to be good for longevity and long term. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. But then, you know, you pair up with Jonathan, but there's really nothing there. And then Andrew comes down. You guys have a great conversation.

And Andrew does what he always does and screws it up. And he asks Bailey on a date. I'm joking, Andrew. No, but that's, I, anyways, that's for another conversation. He ends up, he ends up asking Bailey on a date. Were you surprised by that? So this is funny because I, walking up to the conversation with Andrew, I told my producer, I said this because, you know, every time a guy would come down, they would ask two girls to chat and then they would pick them, pick whoever they wanted for the date. And they, this was going to be the fourth time where someone would pull me for a chat and then they would go for the other girls. So I said as a joke, I said, okay, if I don't get this date, I'm sending myself home. This is like, I'm obviously doing something wrong. I'm too awkward. I said, I know if I have to tap into my like sensual side, because this is clearly not working. So I'm joking. And so definitely my reaction when Bailey comes in the room and tells me that he,

she gets picked by Andrew. It wasn't necessarily that was Andrew that I was so upset or had a pin my stomach for sure. But it was more like the overall I felt embarrassed. I was like, oh my gosh, like something's wrong with me that they choose to talk to me. And then the second I open my mouth, they go with the other girl. So, but I wasn't shocked because Bailey is so funny. She's so, lighthearted, great that I was, you know, even in that moment when she was crying that she felt like she was betraying Jeremy for going on that date. I told her, oh, my gosh, go for it. You're on paradise. What else? This is, it's so early on. Like, he just went on a date with Susie. Do it. Like, go. You have nothing to lose. Like, see, there's a connection there. Try it out.

And then so we see, I agree with that. And then that's got to suck, though. Like, I really feel for you because it's like getting punched in the same wound over and over. that by the time Andrew does it, you must just be like, you know, I have the I know. No, you're good. I was going to say I really feel for you because it's like getting punched in the same wound over and over. And as much as you have a good thing going with Jonathan, I think it's kind of obvious to the viewers to you, even to Jonathan, maybe that the romantic connection is not there. You clearly are putting yourself out there. You want to find something romantic. And you're like, gosh, I'm like so close every time. And I will say,

say I you know Bailey is so lovely but like we know Andrew personally and I was like Andrew like Alex is like such a fit for you so I was also surprised you know nothing against Bailey just I know of course knowing Andrew and yeah I don't know if that was going to be the next question but so the next day when they came back from the date things were a little bit put out of order but I'm the first person you want to talk to and that's you know the conversation was awkward but it was also very choppy because we're trying to talk in codes because we're had pre-existing reasons why we didn't want to go for each other at first. And we kind of worked it out in codes in that conversation. And I was like, well, I thought that you. And he goes,

no, I thought that you. I heard that this. And I was like, oh my gosh, no, no, no. And that's the second, after that conversation, we were like two pieces in a pod. It like made sense. So we had our reservations coming into it. Even though it, you could clearly tell I wasn't to him regardless. But we had our reservations because of, again, external factors. And then when we clear that up, Again, it was just like two Bs in a pod. Do you want to break down those external factors a little bit? I think there were things that were said in terms of on both ends, of the type of people we would usually date. This and we both thought, he thought, well, she's not going to be into me.

And I thought, well, I don't think he's going to be into me. So that's why we, like I said, kind of, and maybe that's the issue. And that's why he chose, I don't know, that's for him to say. But once we had that conversation and we were. like no that's not true we were like okay well you're my person obviously because it's funny right before that conversation were the night that he chose bailey we had before the conversation we had the first ever he goes i feel like we hadn't even talked to us i feel like there's something you know i feel like there's something between us and i'm like actually i kind of feel it too

so yeah well i think honestly i think it was the best i think it was good for him to actually take Bailey instead of you because then when we do see you guys have a conversation after that date it seems like he also like kind of went in there a little more chill he had his guard down I think he kind of went in there like well now I'm just shooting my shot and and you're going to see the real me because now like I'm really going to like go for it and I think it worked and I think we actually saw like I was like oh these two they have chemistry yeah he seemed by the time he had that conversation with you it seemed like he was like okay I kind of know what I want now And I'm just going to go for it.

But he told me on the show, too, after this is what, or not after show, but on the show, what he told me his reasoning was too, right? Because I also didn't want to feel like a second option ever. And not that there's anything wrong with that. That's just I didn't want to feel like if there's a better, because I was going to leave. He had to talk me off the ledge that day. And I was like, no, I'm leaving. He's like, no, please stay.

I'm like, uh, save again. Maybe I'll see. You didn't want to feel like, you know, Bailey went back to Jeremy. And then he was like, okay, well, let me go try. things with Alex now. Exactly. Exactly. So that's kind of, like I said, I'm glad we had that conversation because it made just so much more sense. And then we were able to really, yeah, get to know each other more. Okay. So then before Jesse comes down and turns the show into what is now a competition show, where are you and Andrew at as far as your relationship?

Are you locked in? Are you boyfriend, girlfriend? Definitely locked in. It's cute during the compatibility. Oh, no, that was actually with when the money came in. But Sean comes in before the money aspect and he did tell me, I was the only one at that point that hadn't gone on a date or left the beach. So he did express some interest in me and he said I would love to be on a date as much as I wanted to get off that beach and just, you know, especially that Andrew had just brought Bailey on a date. I wanted, I said I would love to go. I think we'll have a lot of fun. It's like four wheeling. That's definitely my cup of tea. But I'm going to be honest with you. I think if you choose me, regardless, my rose is going to go to Andrew.

So we were both very locked in after that. Okay. How do you feel when Jesse comes and says the person you're with is your partner now, and this is a competition show? Oh, thank goodness. No, I was just so happy because it felt like we were already a team and it was like knowing that we would move as a team felt very reassuring. My boyfriend's professor.

is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts.

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Okay, so now we have to, we have to touch on the Bailey Jeremy stuff, because you, you unfortunately are getting, I would say you got a decent amount of heat just for you know it seems watching the show it seems like you and bailey are super tight and you guys are like best friends so i think everyone's like well alex why didn't you tell your friend if you knew this information um and yeah just like what's your take on all of it of course um my take is still you know i looking back hindsight's always 20 20 um i've apologized before all of this aired because i knew i should have told her and i've continued to apologize um so there's no no excuse for that. There's a little bit of context that me and Jeremy coming into Paradise,

I consider Jeremy my closest friend on the beach. We had talked every day. We FaceTime every day, like three weeks coming up to Paradise. He told me who he was interested in, being both Bailey and Susie. And so I even joke the first day because I, you know, during my pre-interviews, they were asking me, who are you interested in? I said, well, we might, you know, me and Jeremy, we've had this little, we've been talking, maybe I'll try to pursue that. And the first day, I said, I really value your friendship. I think let's just stay friends. And I would call him my best friend. Like every, yeah. So then the night of the, the rose ceremony, when you had to pick between Bailey and Susie, he did come to me and he said, you know, you know me out the best out of everyone

here. Who should I pick? I didn't have a friendship with Bailey before Paradise. I know we were on the same season, but, you know, different groups of friends. Right. So I did say, you know, I would go with Bailey. I mean, I wasn't friends with her before, but I'm her roommate and I'm seeing a lot of really good qualities that I think you guys would really mesh with. So that's kind of, and then the next day when he had his little, he got upset that she went on a date with Andrew. And he came to me. I had just broken up with Jonathan. I was crying. And he tells me he called Susie. I don't want to say I wasn't shocked. I think because I knew he was really conflicted the day before. he told me that and I felt it was like a well I'm going to be vindictive you know you want to go on a date when I picked you and I really told you how much I liked you still not okay I think it's really not a good it's not good behavior but I think it came from a place of like his ego was bruised so the next day you know we wake up and then I tell him um you know I think you should just tell Bailey regardless I think just be straight up with her I think that's the best thing you can do and he did tell me that the the phone call wasn't a big deal and I said that's funny because I said you know you know they're going to air that, right? And he goes, oh, no, you won't. It's really not a big deal. And I talked to Bailey and we're good. So for me, I really trusted his word that if he's so confident they're not going to air it, it must not be anything. Right. So it doesn't still excuse the fact that I should have told regardless Bailey the next day. I just trusted someone I

thought was a friend and trusted his word. And looking back on it now, knowing the extent, it's, I think it makes it even more heightened, right? Right. And I think that it's, um, like interesting context to be added that you had this close relationship with Jeremy because I just really don't think that translates watching the show. It does seem like that you and Bailey are so close. We don't actually see a friendship between you and Jeremy really. No, not at all. And it's, and we both said me and Bailey at the end of this, we said, because we both agreed, we were like, I don't think we were really fan of each other before this. And we said, I'm so glad that we were able to see another side of each other and have this bond. So, but it's again, I don't want,

I just want to preface again, it's not an excuse. Looking back, it's like stand up for, stand up for the, you know, and I just, but the information I had at the time, I didn't think it was going to benefit their relationship. I didn't want to make it look like I was, what if the phone call wasn't a big deal? And I was just trying to sabotage their relationship where I looked like a tattoo tail. That's, I thought, you know what? He handled it. He said, it's not a big deal.

They're good. And I could tell he really, really liked her, knowing, again, that I knew him before the show. And he said he was really interested in her. I just knew a little bit more, I guess, of his feelings towards, or if that makes sense. Yeah. Were you under the impression, because you mentioned it, were you under the impression when he said it's not a big deal? I already talked to Bailey. Did you think that he told Bailey a little bit about it?

No, because he did say. I said, I didn't tell her about the phone call. So that I will admit he didn't tell me he told her. But he said, he kept saying the phone call was really not a big deal. you say to Jeremy too at one point like hey like everyone knows like you should tell Bailey well no so that I don't remember saying that because at that point when the whole Brian thing happened I didn't know I thought it was me and Andrew that knew and that's because I thought oh he came to me and he told Andrew about it so I felt a little like oh he trusts me like he because he told he asked me who to pick he feels

that we have this trust between us and it's more at the end when someone's told us everybody knows and it's Brian who's going to tell her that's when I was like oh my gosh wait everyone knows that that is terrible that that makes it like yes exactly the jokes on you which is such an unfortunate position to be in and it's I never no one would want to be in that position so I definitely felt um no I felt for Bailey absolutely you're you are you are also you're you're in tough position because I would I would feel like I was in a tough position if I was also a friend like if you are truly friends with both of them and on top of it you are dealing with your own shit like people do forget I was crying over Jonathan that night right so I wasn't

in a place to be exactly like oh let me focus on your relationship and try to see fix your relationship having lived it and then watching it back in a dream world how would this situation have played out? I think I would have, like I said, I did tell Jeremy, I think just be up front. If it's not a big deal, tell him. I think what I would have done different is maybe ask more about the phone call and then also tell him if, well, if you're not going to tell him her, I'm going to tell her, right? Like I, looking back on it, you know, we should have each other's back.

And that's something I regret for sure. I don't think I would have gone behind his back and told Bailey because, again, he's a friend and I want to be a good friend to him too. But I think going up to him and telling him, yeah, if you don't tell her, I will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. So Brian does tell Bailey, we see that conversation happen.

How are you feeling that night? We see you go talk to Bailey, kind of walk us through that evening. Right. So funny enough, that night I was going to go tell Jeremy, if that's exactly what I said. said, if you don't tell her, I will. And the man is sleeping. And all of a sudden, Parisa tells me, that's the night I found out that everyone knew. And Parisa tells me, it's Brian who's going to tell about the phone call. So that's why you see me kind of like, oh, my gosh, it's Brian. Because I thought, like, it would be my position, if anything, to talk to Jeremy.

I'm the closest one to him. So that's why it came a surprise when I'm going around. It's Brian who's going to tell her. Because I was going to tell Jerry. And at that point, I think I'm going to speak for myself and a couple of people, all we knew was, again, what I just said, the phone call and it's not a big deal. So I think that's why it was a shock that it was coming from Brian, because we all thought he knew, we didn't know the extent that he knew about the proposal and whatnot. So knowing just the information we had, I think that's why we were so surprised. Why would it come from Brian? Right. That makes sense because from the cast perspective, I guess it's just the phone call, whereas Brian is the person that has additional information. We just know the information

that's in front of us. And as we're watching, as with the viewers, we're learning so much more things that's going on in the interviews and things that's been said privately to other people, right? But with what we have in front of us, that's what we thought. Yeah. And looking back, no, go ahead, Joe. Has this situation affected your relationship with Jeremy as of today? Um, I, we, you know, throughout the season, I made sure to reach out to both to check up on them. And when all of the heat kind of went to us, you know, even that night I checked up on him, I'm just going to say it was a little disappointed that I never received a text or anything or something that I think would have shown that,

hey, you had my, not my back, but, you know, you took the heat for something. Maybe I should have been the one to say, told her. And I never received any of that. So it's definitely, I'm trying to figure that out right now, you know, but, so it's tough. Like, looking back at the whole show, it's like, is that how he, like, things he said about Bailey, it's tough to say, like, is this someone that I would still want to have, you know, in my life? My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

All right, Wes West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know I get down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them. two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs. And of course, the Epstein of it all.

Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now.

Listen to the hood Politics with Prop Podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this.

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Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Basketball Legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night,

I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay. So we see, so the game is moving, moving past that subject now. The game's a competition. Are you and Andrew at all talking strategy in how to potentially

win or do you guys even care? Because we don't really see, we don't see you guys talking strategy at all. So my whole motto, my whole mantra, I guess, was I believe in karma. And of course, everybody wants to have to win half a million dollars. That would be silly to say, oh, you know, but my whole mantra was, I want good karma. And for good karma to happen is let's, let's put the couples that I think are strong and are going to have longevity outside of this. Let's try to push them to the final, right? And I didn't want to talk about strategy because I felt like that's bad karma. exactly kind of like what happened to Sean. I think he was so, which it makes sense. He wanted to be strategic about it. But I felt like if I do that, it's going to bite me in the

butt. Right. And also I kept saying like what we'll cross that bridge when we cross that bridge when we want to vote. Like let's just focus. And I know it sounds very corny to say, but we just wanted to like laugh and get. We didn't want to talk about the game. Like he's such a funny guy that I was like, give me your best jokes. I don't care about whoever votes for who or who's the alliances. Like again, just let's be nice to everybody. Hopefully people believe in. us. Well, you're also like, I didn't sign up for a competition show. Like, I'm just here to date. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, I love a good competition. I'm super competitive. I love it during the games. I was like locked in. But besides that, when it was just one on one time with them,

we just didn't care. We're like, I think we've, you know, we have a good reputation here. And we've shown people before even the money came into play that we really cared for each other. So that's all we can really do. It's an interesting element because if you are in a relationship that's working and you see a future that's clearly where your energy is going to go but then again if you are a sean or a jonathan or somebody that's in a platonic relationship it does make sense to be like okay well the interesting part of the rest of the show for me is to play the game so then the strategy actually becomes like it it becomes a numbers thing where it's like okay well the tight relationships it makes sense for them to vote the same way and stick together and then the people

that are the other end it makes sense to try to pick you guys off absolutely absolutely i don't blame jonathan for doing talking strategy at this point that was the only thing left for him uh i mean for sean interesting because he did say he was a strong couple so maybe he should have just stayed with what most of us were thinking let's just you know cross that bridge when we cross that bridge he wasn't really in a platonic relationship so i don't think he was really at risk of of being voted out we see in this this episode we see like the therapists come down and you guys have a lot of cute moments. I, I, we said in an interview with Kathy, none of us really agreed with this, but the therapist said that you and Andrew don't have any

sexual chemistry. Funny. So I'm curious to say what you guys are going to say because none of us and none of the other couples agreed. We were like, what? We're like, can't stop touching each other we're always. What did you say? I think my argument would be like, I don't agree with her, but like, you're also like in the woods with like a bajillion bugs. So maybe just like that night she wasn't seeing it. Whereas like as someone that's seen you guys like by the pool and by the bar and eating together, I think like the romance really translates. Right.

And one thing that came out of that, of course we didn't agree at first, but we both, it really struck a nerve. We're like, oh wait, what are we not seeing that people are seeing, right? So we both reflected on our own about that. And I think something really great happened came out of that is that. that we kind of realized on both of our ends that we were holding back a little bit. Like as much as we really liked each other, we had her own, again, reservations. And that moment when she said, there's no chemistry, I talked to my producer.

And I was like, I really like him. And I don't know what, I think there's all these things that I'm holding back from. And I realize, no, this is, I want to be honest with my emotions, my feelings with him. And I'm going to tell him that I'm, you know, falling in love with him. And same thing. I think that reflection just helped us grow more together, for sure. Definitely. What did it mean for you guys to have that conversation about falling in love with each other?

And we do see this kind of sweet moment where you realize you're going to say it first and you, you know, you shell up a little bit and Andrew takes your hand and he, you know, takes that jump first. Right. So, you know, throughout the show, you guys know that I come off very awkward and especially when it's me talking about my feelings. And again, I don't want to go too much into detail and well, it is me. But something I did share with Andrew is in that we both related, you know, we had not traditional family upbringing. And something that I told him is that I, you know,

I didn't see my dad for 18 years in my life. And my mom, we had a rocky relationship. And, I, you know, I was sexually exploited by someone close to my family. The person that should have been there for me, never supported me. So I think I had a, I have a very tainted relationship with like what love should look like. And I told him, I said, there's a difference between saying I love you and showing it, right? So growing up, even if I heard it, I didn't really feel it. And I told that to Andrew. And I told him, I said, it's the first time that a partner, because I'm a very open book. I tell everything. I tell everyone my, my, my, my story, because it helps me cope. But not only did he listen, he actively made, like, actions to understand me. So when he took my hand and he said,

I love you for, I'm falling in love with you first. I knew that was him saying, I know why you are the way you are. And let me step it up for you and show you that I care because I understand where you're coming from. So it was like a moment where I was like, oh, wow, I feel very safe with this person. Yeah. So it was such a beautiful moment. It like really like my shoulders were just relieved. And then I do what I do best. I get up and then I'm like, because I'm awkward and I'm like, oh my gosh, we just shared all these moments. And then I look back and he's not following me. And I'm like, well, he's in love with me. You should follow me back. And he's like, I can't get up. And I have to put out. I have to put it out because I, that's me. I'm impulsive and I have to

which I think it's cute because that's our relationship. Like it's so I need, I always say I need to cut it with humor a little bit. I'll be vulnerable, but then I have to like snap it back with some humor. And he appreciates that. So I think that's why on the show we make a good team. Yeah. And I think you're exactly right. Like that moment encompassed you guys as individuals and as a couple so beautifully where like, yeah, I think that's just amazing that he really took the time to like get to know you and what you need to feel safe and loved. And in that moment was able to show up for you in that way and like exactly there's so many other moments where I just felt so not that he's a therapist to me but I would you know I had tough decisions to make and then I would feel I would

shut down I was so nervous and he said do you think you don't like to let people down because XYZ and I would be like oh my gosh wow like first of all you listen to what I'm telling you but also you're like trying to make sense of who I am and why I do the things I do and that's not something I've ever had so definitely and Andrew's like Andrew's like no sexual chemistry. Here's proof. Literally. He's like, I, I'm far as we're wrong.

Take a look at me, baby. Cameras, cameras. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, like, you guys have been great to watch. This has been a fun season. You know, I consider you guys to be one of the strongest couples. We don't know what's going to happen. Is there any, any other thing you want to ask before we let Alex go?

I was going to say, you know, we've only got one episode left of the season. Um, can you, well, yes, we have the finale. If you could tease a little bit of that. So definitely the last episode is going to be surprising. I don't think I've ever been in a position that I experienced something like that. It was very, I'm just going to say gut-wrenching. Um, to experience. Well, I mean, this is the first.

season that they've included a cash prize, a competition element. So we are very excited to see how they close out this season and who inevitably wins the money potentially. So, yeah. Alex, Alex, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on. And it was a pleasure talking to you. Well, thanks for having me, you guys. I appreciate it. Thank you. Of course. And to all our listeners, thank you for tuning in, the bachelor happy hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. We have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks for listening.

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