Bachelor Happy Hour - All the Love with Zach & Kaity! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

Kathy and Susan sit down with their very first guests: Zach and Kaity! The Bachelor Nation lovebirds chat with our Golden gals about everything from their worst first date experiences to the reality of living with a partner. Then, they share some of the sweetest moments in their relationship, including the moment Zach knew Kaity was the one. Plus, we get some very exciting updates: Will we be seeing a wedding soon?! Tune in to find out and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same, go off on me.

I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No such thing. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you so much for joining us. We're so excited to be back today.

And we have a special guest today, two of them, Katie and Zach. Zach and Katie, welcome. Thank you for having us. Yay, so excited. Thank you so much. We are so excited to see you both here, fellow Austinites. Okay, so I just, I want to ask you two guys. So I know you both because you're fellow Austinites and I live in Austin as well.

Katie, I want to ask you, which is an amazing place, by the way. Isn't that? I fell in love with it. She was here last week to marry my son and his fiancee. We had a great time. But I want to know, Katie, do you remember how we met? Yeah, we met on an airplane to AFR. drunk on an airplane i mean not kathy oh the wine yeah unheard of not kent do you remember they let us sit

in first class why we sat there drinking yeah it was really fun our economy seats we got ended up getting first class and free wine all because of you kathy though well you know that's my girl that's my girl so we've got a little thought of the day topic of the day and since you know you guys or Gen Z or whatever those things are and we're boomers. Question for you guys. How soon is too soon to leave the table when you know

the date is a bust? Ooh. I'm just going to leave the table when the date's a bus. Now, you guys are engaged, but think back. See, soon. I feel the dates a bust. For me, I've been on some dates that were a bus. and I just ride it out.

I just ride it out and then I just don't text them anymore. I don't want to be rude. It's not like I'm going to get up and leave the date. Yeah. I think that's disrespectful. I think obviously two people come together and obviously aren't compatible for a reason, but doesn't mean you need to leave.

I totally agree. That was an amazing answer in my thought about it. For me, I agree. If you're in an uncomfortable situation, that get out, like, like actual uncomfortable. But if you're just not vibing, you have to wait it out. That's, I mean, it's like, if anything, you can walk away or at least think about it as, I'm going to have a cool story after this of how night show the date that was, which I haven't.

Is this where I chime in and say, I'm the girl here that would say, I'm so sorry, I have a bus to catch. I'm out of here. Or get that emergency phone call. Daddy, I'm not surprised, you said. You know, you know, you want and you get it. Yeah. And then you're out.

I have heard stories about people actually go into the bathroom and never coming back. I don't think I could do that to somebody. They climb out windows, right? That's just amazing. No, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. But I might say I really not feeling well or, you know, my daughter's in labor. Or my house is on fire.

I got this pain in my side. I've really got to go. Oh, those are some good lines, though, to get out. Tell me, what's the worst date you ever had? Wait, you go. I had one guy. I have a lot of comical dates, actually. A lot of date stories that my friends love.

But I would say, like, the weirdest date isn't the one that you're thinking of but I don't know what he's thinking because they're engaged there was a guy who played the guitar for me in a park in my hometown in Kingston

and we had brunch I remember having brunch with him and we sat down he like automatically looked at the menu and was like wow it's really expensive here I was like well I can't order the yogurt like wow i always pay half fast forward he ended up he's like hey like i brought my guitar do you want me to sing to you in the park and automatically in my head i'm like absolutely not no shoot me

okay so literally starting me in my hometown people i know are walking by they're like it's so romance he breaks in an hour just like get out of here but that's thinking of. But I would say my worst date slash most interesting was I went on a date, I hope to God he's not listening, but I went on a date with this guy. No names, please, no names.

Went on a day with this guy and he's like a most functional speaker like really into his profession like working out and all that mindset. And I was a little late for the day like probably five, ten minutes because I was working at the hospital. So I had to like run home. and quickly get dressed and then come back to this restaurant.

So get back to this restaurant. He's like, wow, you're a little late. And I was like, yeah, well, I was working. Like, you're lucky that I'm even here right now kind of thing. Starting off really good. He's like, do you not really know how to manage your time correctly? I was like, pardon me. I was like, already you're like axed and I probably should have walked out,

but I sat through it. And then I sit down and he's like, he's like, I'm not a. big drinkery tells me this story about I'm not going to get into that but there's a huge Katie this is when you say I have my I have appendicitis I have a headache I have a bus to catch this is when my patient just pulled you're right so okay so I want to know Zach when did you know on the show that Katie was your girl I none of this I want the real truth here When did you know? Oh, we actually talked about this like two days ago.

Two days ago. We've talked about a bit because it always, you know, watching the show kind of re-sparks like the conversations again, like, of like, oh, wow, we experienced something very similar to what we're watching now. For me, she doesn't love my answer, but it's completely promised. Yeah, I love it. Love honesty. Yes.

So throughout the whole process, I was very in my own head. I analyzed everything to a T. I overwhelmed myself with like trying to figure out who's, you know, my right partner. This right. Yeah. Like it off the boxes, this and that. Or like I'm trying to have every individual relationship and keep them siloed and not bleed into each other and try to keep that all in my head. So the problem was as I was being so analytical mentally that I wasn't letting myself just take a step back and feel like, wait, where is my heart taking me?

Who do I feel like that is my person? Who am I truly in love with? And the actual moment when it happened was actually the day before engagement, where I was nervous. What? That long? I know. I know, guys. You need to get out of your own head, bud.

Hey, Zach, you're like, wait, Zach, let me just tell you something. You're lucky that Katie didn't tell you she had a bus to catch. That's right. That's right. No, true. True. But it was one of those things of, like, when I took a step back and when I was able to acknowledge, like, oh, my God, it's Katie. It was a no, duh, like, look back at how you were with her, how you felt around her.

Like, that was naturally like, I want to just spend my time with her. How she makes you feel. Right. Yeah. I was like, she makes me feel like no one else can ever make me feel. Yet I was still being so analytical of like, well, let me take up every day I can, make sure that I'm, you know, because engagement is a big deal. For me, it was not just going to propose for the sake of proposing at the end of this. Like, either I'm going to feel 100% confident or not do a decision or me for myself.

So for me, I did think of it too much, maybe. No, I think you're in a position where you do need to think about it too much or I don't think there is a level of too much. I think because engagement is so serious. And I take it serious. I think everybody on the show does as well, for the most part. Hey, Susan, do we take an engagement seriously? I don't know what that's like. Exactly.

We don't have one. Okay. We haven't felt that yet, but I will. I will definitely. I want somebody once in my lifetime to get down on one day. Hasn't happened. Twice hasn't happened. It'll happen, guys.

It will happen. It's gone. Wait, none of your husbands, neither of your husbands got down. What did they do for a ring over a fence? I'm an old school kind of girl. You could sing outside the window if you want. I don't care, but get down on one day. No, wait.

The answer is no. and moving right along. I hear there's a wedding plan soon. You want to tell us about it? We're in the works of starting to think about venues. We're thinking about a wedding more than we ever have before because I think first and foremost, our priority is buying house. We rent this beautiful home right now.

But we're looking at buying home probably by the end of the year. But whatever makes the most sense. that does make sense actually yeah usually that's a priority that's where we want to allocate our money first and foremost and then obviously put some money aside for a wedding we're thinking about october 2025 maybe here in texas yes i'll be back awesome i got we listen i can help you guys my daughter got married here i know i know all the best places photographers i'll help you out I know an officiant that could really help you out. But wait, I want to go back for one second.

Because, Zach, I'm really surprised to hear that it wasn't until the day before engagement. Something had to happen. What was that unique thing? What is that character trait? What is the thing that put you over the edge? Well, what I did was that when I figuratively step back and thought of like, why am I overthinking this? Like love is actually pretty simple. Like who do you truly feel like drawn to?

Who do you want to spend much of your life with? So I literally just closed my eyes and all all I could see was her. I was like, I don't feel comfortable with anyone else except her in my life. And I want to just not end it at this engagement. I want to keep hanging out with her. I want to keep doing life with her. And it was just simple of I was in my hotel the day, like the day before and just obviously freaking out like an engagement is tomorrow that's a big deal for everyone yeah but then i just

i mean i prayed like hell i closed my eyes i meditated everything you could to try to come to some you couldn't get her out of your head but i couldn't get her out of my head yeah you know that's what you thought of when you thought of her you felt good i felt good i was like there's no doubt in my mind and i don't like we've talked about this i don't condemn him for that i don't like get mad at him because it was a day before like that's just the way the show works you know what i mean everything's very compressed and i don't blame him because with like the clouded judgment because gabby is an incredible woman as well so when you have two i'm going to two my own horn but when you have two incredible women in front of you that has to be hard no matter has to be yeah i get that i get that wow

i mean we were talking about joey the other day and he got down to the too. And he knew, I kind of knew that right before the overnights, the way he was speaking to Daisy. And I go, oh, that's telling me something right there. But he was being true to himself. And Joey said, I heard him on another podcast or something saying that he dreamt about her and that he knew, sort of the same thing. He said he couldn't imagine his life without her. Yeah. So that's what we're looking for. Katie, what were you thinking during this time? How were you at that point. Did you feel confident like you were in or like before the engagement? Yes. I was confident. There was like a few reassuring moments that he did give me. Um, but also I always

had the mentality that and I always tell Zach this, what's for me will never go past me. And I know who I am. I love that I can give somebody. I know the value that I hold. And I was confident that if Zach didn't see me as a lifetime partner that eventually down the road, I would hope to find a man similar to the attributes that he carries. Susan, don't start crying. No, I love this. You have no idea. Oh, I know.

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Each week, I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TV. BBR pile. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Books is the official audio book and ebook home for Reese's Book Club. Visit apple.c.O. forward slash Reese Apple Books to find out more. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast.

podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. You guys, I'm telling you these last few couples, Charity and Dotten and you guys and Joey and Kelsey, it's like, like it's palpable. You can feel the love. But now, okay, we know you love each other. There's hope, I'm listening. I am crossing everything I can cross and some things I can't cross. I have a question

though for you guys. You're living together. What's it like? You come off the show. You move in. Come on, be honest. Tell us about the adjustment of living together. And one more thing I want to add to that. Is there something that either one of you did or do that you had to work on to make it better like deal breakers? Like, uh-uh, you cannot do this because I can't live like that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Come on.

Who's going first and no getting mad at each other for this? Okay. So I would say I was, I was quite apprehensive when, you know, we started talking about moving in together only because I was such an independent woman before, never lived with a man. And I was very like, I can do it myself kind of mentality. And I loved my space. I loved, you know, kind of like the routine of my life. So I told him, I was like, I need my alone time. And I think that was something we had to work on.

Because when we did end up moving in together, I had, you know, I had moods where I was like, well, I need my time to like decompress. especially after like a hospital shift. I was going to say you're on the whole time when you're at the hospital. Yeah, I come home and I've been like so selfless all day that I just need to be selfish when I get home. Absolutely. Impressed and everything like that. So I think that was a learning curve for us because I think Zach takes things.

He's a sensitive man and he looks into things and he overanalyzes. And I love that about you too. Hello, Zach. I'm a feeler. He's a big viewer. Are you a March baby by chance? I'm in July, Leo. Okay.

All right. The lion. Anytime like I have a shift in my mood, he's very aware of it. He's kind of like, he'll be like, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm fine. Like just like let me be kind of thing. So we've really had to adapt and learn with that. He's like, yeah, we did.

I know what you're saying. I also like I get in these moods where like, want everything, like, so clean. And I think he had to, like, really learn my personality in that regard because Zach, like, do you keep it clean, Zach? Do you? Do you clean up after yourself? Generally speaking, yes. Like, I like to keep space really clean, like with dishes or rooms or like I like to do laundry. Like, I like that stuff. But I get it to, like, where she's coming from.

There's those days when you're just like, I'm locked in. I need to clean this place spot. and get out of my frickin' way, whereas it originally, I was like, oh, how can I help? How can I help? And I was actually hindering the cleaning by asking her or being in her way. Because I find it therapeutic. Yeah. And I was feeling like- I like it too.

Do you guys share cooking too? I mean, it sounds like you sort of have your, each of you has your strong suits here. Do you guys share cooking? Yeah. We do. We just, we like, I like cooking for her. So when she's at work, after her ship, like my, like things. I like to do for her is have like dinner ready for her when she gets through the door.

Oh, man. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I love you, Zach. Zach, I live 10 minutes. Could you let me know I can be over for dinner in time? I love to have you for dinner. That is so sweet that you do that.

Seriously, Zach, that is really sweet. Katie, how do you feel when you walk into that? I feel really appreciated. Oh. Yeah. These are important moments, people. Everybody gets this. Wouldn't you say, Susan, these.

of the things we talked about yesterday about what we wish we had done in our marriages the feeling Zach that you're making Katie feel appreciated and that she recognizes it that's that's an amazing yeah that it doesn't get better than that it's perfect it really doesn't love it I love it anything that Katie did that you had to adjust to Zach I mean just kind of what what you were sharing of since I'm a feeler and like if someone's emotion are, you know, upset or angry or sad, like, I want to fix that. I want to make them feel better. I want to see how they're doing.

And she doesn't particularly like to be asked about that or taking care of she wants to do it. She don't want to be fixed. Oh, no, no. You can't fix it. No, exactly. And so it took me a while, and I'm still learning still to this day, of giving her that space, but still letting her know that I'm supporting her from the back. you let me know when you are ready to share I'm always here for you but I'm also working on

not being on you to see like if I could help and I'm sorry no empathetic empathy is a huge thing and you feel what people are feeling so Katie one you for you to understand where he's coming from do you know what I mean even though you just need your space you just want time out. Give me a minute. I'll be fine. Exactly. But then you have the opposite going, well, what can I do? Is there something I said? Or did anything go wrong today? And you're like, shut the fuck up. But you know what? We're talking about love language here. You're both learning what each other needs. And that is exquisite that you guys are figuring out what you need and how to express what you need. And that's called communication. Yay. Our key word. Our key word. So you,

So you guys clearly, to me, listening to you guys, it is amazing how your relationship has blossomed and grown. And you can hear and see the love that you have for each other. But obviously, you both have had prior relationships. So I want to know, because Susan and I need all the help we can get, what is the best dating advice you can give us or that you've ever received? Red flags are red flags. And that's khaki.

That's what I said yesterday. Really? I always make them yellow. You can, Susan makes them yellow. I said you can never make a red flag into a white flag. Yes, exactly. I agree with that. That's a good one.

Like, just like don't ignore the red flag. Don't ignore. Don't think you can fix somebody. Don't think you can change them and don't hang on to like the small little things and think that's love. It's so true. And you know, I'll preach. I'll preach that.

that to people, yet I don't follow it. When you're in the moment, you're like, well, that's not that bad. And three months later, you're like, wow. And you know what I've said to Susan? Susan, when someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Zach, what about you? Do you have some good advice here?

Yeah, I guess the one thing that I learned that was huge for me prior to even being on the Bachelor ad or Bachelor was staying true to your values. what, like, who defines you? What are things that you will never get rid of in your life, things that make you you, things that you love, things that you care for? Don't let someone else change that. Which I had problems when I was younger of kind of forming to be someone

that I think this person would like me to be. God, we're twins. And then you don't have an identity, whereas have your identity. And that is the easiest way to like when you are dating to figure out if this person is compatible with you or not. is because you're just being yourself, like regardless of what you don't lose yourself. Right. You don't lose yourself. Yeah, because eventually the real you is going to come out. Right. I do exactly what he's saying. I jump into their world and live their experiences and everything's

all PT keen. And then like I said, a few months later, you realize what about me? Where's my happy? Yeah. That was a very, very good point to make. Right. And then you get in depth into it and then you lose your sense of self. And then there's often no way to really recover from that. You just need. to step away, whereas you want to meld the lives together. You don't want to change to just be someone's like that. Grow together. Take things from both. It took me 67 years to figure that out.

See, you guys are way ahead of the curve, way out of the curve. How about you guys questioning us? Do you have any questions for us about love and relationships? I do have a question for you both. Obviously, you know, filming for a golden bachelor. has wrapped quite some time ago. Things have kind of gone on, Joey's season. Have you, too, been on any dates recently with any men?

Go, Susan. It's sad. It's so sad. Although I did go to have some appetizers and a cocktail with a gentleman that I met in Marshalls in November. I love Marshall. I just said like yesterday. So, you know how you go through your messages? And I thought, oh, I'm all caught up.

right and one night i was laying in bed and i kept going and going it was late february and there was like 12 i missed from december 19th and there was this gentleman saying you don't know me but my friend is trying to get a hold of you he doesn't use social media so here i am blah blah blah and he goes i don't know if you feel comfortable sharing your information with me or perhaps you'd like me to share his and and then he said i'm going to send you a picture he looks like a chuch but he cleans up real well He sends this picture, and it's the guy and I, Marshalls. I remember taking the picture. It was crazy.

Wow. That was it for me, though. No second date. We chat it. He got sick. Yeah, no. Okay. Okay.

Awesome. Next. Crickets. Next guy. You don't want. Crickets. Crickets for me, Zach. Kepie, you got to sit still long enough for somebody to ask you.

You've been on a date, haven't you? Yes, you go out with your buddy, but he's not like a day. I have a guy friend that we go listen to music with and stuff, but, you know, I don't know. Okay, I have a question for you guys. Okay. Okay, since Zach and I are getting married, what marriage advice are you going to give us? R.C., our big C, communicate. You give one, I'll give one.

Go. Definitely communicate. And even though you feel sometimes uncomfortable about saying something that may be paranoid like he's going to think I'm picking on something, share it. Because if you hold on to it, you build resentment. And then it stays in and it doesn't work well in the end. Yeah. And I would say for me, the biggest lesson I learned in my marriage is compromise.

And it sounds like you guys are already learning that. I didn't do a great job of it in my marriage. but learning to compromise because you know what most stuff in the world is small shit and let it go it's just doesn't matter you know compromise given it's just not that important um so that would be my advice to you um but i want how about date night and i have a date night and i should have date night in great sense i mean that's important we do one yeah one date night minimum only yeah good i like it I'm Jemel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid

conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing.

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The new podcast from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week, I'm joined by. authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TVR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Books is the official audio book and ebook home for Reese's Book Club. Visit apple.com. Forward slash Reese Apple Books to find out more. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast. And we run a

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Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. So all right. So what are you guys, I mean, you're young and you're beautiful and handsome and you have your life ahead of you. But I want to know what you guys look forward to about getting older when it comes to love. And do you want children? I was just going to say, I think the biggest thing that I look forward to is starting a family. Oh, Kathy, we're going to be aunties. And Susan, I'm the in-town auntie, so I get lots of time with the baby. She's jealous because her granddaughter liked me. Everyone likes you, Susan. Yes, they do. Okay, so if you could see into the future of your relationship, what would you want to know?

Like, just imagine you're looking at the crystal ball of your relationship. Let's call it 10 years down the road. Obviously, you said kids, but, you know, what wouldn't you want to know? You'd want to know the happiness, the children, but what would you not want to know? Oh, wow. What I wouldn't want to want it out 10 years from now. 20, 30.

Old. What would you want to know and what wouldn't you want to know? Answer the easiest one. Like the state? Because I feel like that's one thing that we're trying to figure. What was that? I didn't hear you. Yeah.

What state you're going to live in? Well, I was going to say because we want to buy a house and we want to start a family here in Austin. I offered you mine, Zach. Bring up the cats. the cats we yeah sorry we neighbors are around um what state you're going to live in then longer term like are we going to spend the rest of our our life in texas we don't know but where are you from originally both of you california oh canada and we're going this summer up to canada for a while so it's cold up there hon not the summer not the summer not the summer

I have family. I have family in Canada, Katie, too. We really are related. So how did you get to Austin? I, well, different stories, but I'm a travel nurse. So I came down actually to Texas. I worked in the ER in San Antonio. And then the first time I ever saw Austin, like experience it.

I was like, I'm moving here. Made it happen. And then three weeks later went on The Bachelor and met this lovely name. Did you hear what she just said, Kathy? She came down here and made it happen. I admire that. That was something you loved. You knew you liked it.

You made it happen. A lot of people do things and wish they could do it, but they don't make it happen. So you're right. And I will tell you, one of the things I've said to my own children, and I honestly believe there's lots of things, lots of reasons to do things in life and lots of reasons not to. But don't ever let fear guide you. Make a decision, go with it. and whether it works out or not exactly if it doesn't work out you turn around and go a different

way yeah totally i think it's liberating personally i think it's really cool to go to a place where you don't know any you don't know you know what's going to happen but you do have a goal or a dream in mind and you just shoot for the stars and if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out and if it does two thumbs up very impressive very impressive Being comfortable and uncomfortable situation. I love that, Kat, don't you? Now, if you asked us that question, what would we think of, Kathy? I wouldn't want to know who's going to get ill later and meet a caretaker or who's going to, you know what I mean?

They're not even in that zone. You know what? I'm not going there, Susan. I actually prefer to look at the positive. I don't care. I just look for the next great thing that's going to happen and I look for it and I look for the positive. I don't look for the negatives. But I want to, I think that we've got an idea here that let's play a game.

Oh, game time. It's game game. You got it. Okay. So it's a little like generational gap, Zen, Gen Z, you know, boomer kind of game. This or that. So we're going to read out some ideas for you guys and you're going to say which this or that. Okay.

You're going to give it to us. And then we'll talk about it for a little minute. So Susan, go ahead. Go on. Fair enough. So, meeting on a dating app or going on a blind date, what would you be more comfortable with? Dating app.

Maybe, right? Because at least you see the person before. I've heard horror stories of dating apps that like, you know, you get catfish, you have expectations already and then you get let down. So maybe the blind date would be better to not let your expectations. and let it be a sight unseen that's that's scary i'm still sitting you're trying to figure what catfish means like so you know right yeah they're not who they say they are somebody shows like a picture and bag and box and they show up and they don't look like meg and fox oh well that that happens to us

all the time every time susan i have dates the picture looks like zach and we get there and the guys you know can barely is barely ambulatory so no i get it okay Okay. Here's one that I actually struggle with sometimes. You're going on a first date. Go for dinner or just go out for drinks. I always involve appetizers with my cocktails. So it doesn't have to be a full-blown dinner, but I have to eat something. I would say first eat just drinks. Yeah, I agree. Because it could also be quick, right? If it does suck, drinks can only, they can be less than an hour. One drink and dumb. Okay, but what if you decide, if you decide you want to? Will you stick around for dinner if you're having a good time?

We have that option to go to dinner if you want. That's true. And I think it's also really good, I will add, because this is a pet peeve and like a huge shirt off for me. You really do get to find out their table manners if you do have dinner with them. Oh, Katie. They have basketball manners. I'm out. You are, Susan.

So, good question. Do you let the guy pay on the first date or, Do you split it? I would say I would I would split it. Yeah. I'm not shy about putting my card out. I would expect the man to be like, no, no, I got this. But I think it's common courtesy with two strangers meeting for the first time to offer.

I always insist, especially when I know I'll never see this person again. I'm going to insist on paying my half so he didn't feel like he got taken. I feel sorry for men A lot of men are on dating sites And they got a treat every time Most of them You know what I mean? So I don't mind paying for my own

And I love a man that says absolutely no way Agreed Agreed Okay, we've talked about this other day I always, I'm with you Katie I always whip out my card I always offer I think it is the nice polite thing to do

And if the guy takes the card and does it, that's fine. If I don't like the guy and never want to see him again, I'm with Susan, I make sure I do it. What about you, Zach? Come on. I will, I have never in the past and choose not to now, like, let the woman pay for anything. Like, I like to put my card down,

especially on her first date, always pay for their first date. Is that why when we went out, Zach? Zach and Katie took me for dinner, and Zach would not hear. hear of me paying my way. Gentleman. He said, gentlemen. Well, I love to treat people.

Like, if we're out for dinner and I don't want it to ever be like a weird, uncomfortable money situation for some people, because I know finances are tough for a lot of people to talk about. So it's like, quite as well. Like, I'd like to do that by treat for everyone. But Kate is actually very gracious. And she loves to take me out on date nights. And, yeah, that's fun.

That's sweet. little treats and stuff like that like i don't know she i like i love that all right dude for that night you're the guy i'm taking you out honey because i appreciate you oh she doesn't she's on date nights i love i like it okay here's one that i'm not saying i've ever done this however i'd like your ideas snooping in a partner's phone or reading their journal one's better for which ones i think would you do either no one asked me i'm asking Zach and katy i think they're kind of like on the same page um going into somebody's person yeah same thing journal or a text or whatever um i think that if you even have the thought of wanting to look in their

phone you don't have trust and if you don't have trust you don't have a strong relationship and that's a whole other can of worms right there. Oh, big ones. Yeah. Like if you can't have the open conversation of maybe you're having a moment of insecurity or maybe there's something that popped up and it's bothering you, if you can't have that communication or ask that question of, hey, what was this about?

You can't have that and you have to resort to snooping on the phone or snooping into a thing. That's exactly what Kate just said your relationship doesn't have a foundation. It'll never work. There's a deeper communication and be able to talk and say, like, hey, that bothered me. Or, hey, what can you explain why this is this way? Right, right. That would be totally uncomfortable.

I had somebody that always snooped in my phone. I was in a relationship system years ago. And it's like, what are you looking for? Here, here it is. You want my password? Like, I'm not hiding anything. And be careful what you look for. You know what I mean?

Like, what are you doing? You're making problems. Again, I didn't say I've ever done either. these, and I never would. But I just was curious on your thoughts. I think you two guys are so mature. It's so clear why you guys are so happy. But I want to end this little game with on a little, you know, more fun note.

Yeah, good stuff. Big, big wedding or small wedding? Okay. And what state? We kind of toss back and forth with this. I think if we do do a destination wedding, it's going to be a little bit more smaller. It's going to be intimate. However, if we knew a Texas wedding, which I think we're more geared towards, I think it'll be a larger-scale

wedding. Yeah, like, not like a over 300-person wedding. What? Oh, my God. Did you say $300, $150,000 later? A lot of my Texas friends, come on. They've got the biggest weddings I've ever seen. They invite everyone in their mother and their cousin.

Susan, you know what this means? We're guaranteed to be invited. That's what this means. Either way, we're going. Destination, small. We're there. We're there. We're there. But everybody does everything big in Texas. I do. Susan still can't get over my closet size. The best were the hills. And like I lived in right outside of Dallas for nine years. And it was flat. What I missed the most about here, Pennsylvania is my windy roads and the trees and everything was just, I got there. I thought, I didn't believe I was in Texas.

It was amazing. And the water in the middle of a city. We went out on a boat ride. I was like, what? It is very cool. Very, thank you. We're going to invite you here in the summer when it's about 110. And then I'm going to hear you sing its praises.

I'll stop coming to you late May, early June, then you come here. Well, it was fabulous having you, Katie and Zach, on you, our first guests. And we are just so thrilled to have had you on the show. You are a lovely couple. You're insightful. You're kind. You're compassionate. You're everything that I would love to see in a young couple in love.

It gives me great hope. A hell of a future ahead of you. Babies and houses and all of the above. But first of the wedding that we will join you. Thank you so much both of you for joining us today. Yeah. Thank you, guys. We had a great time.

Thank you for hours. Thank you so much. And that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you so much for joining us today and we will see you soon. Be sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour. As we do have new episodes coming out every week, you don't want to miss them. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. And make sure you submit your questions because you can go to bachelornation.com because we want to hear what you have to say so we can talk about it. That's why we're here. We'll see you all next week. Signing off, Kathy and Susan. Ciao.

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