Bachelor Happy Hour - Ally Lewber: Unpacking the End of ‘Perfect Match’ — Part 2 

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back with Ally Lewber from “Perfect Match”! We’re jumping right back in where we left off, getting into life after intimate m...oments are shared on TV. Watching it all back can be hard — and we’re diving into it all. Ally also opens up about being an unexpectedly controversial character and how she feels about dating today. What is dating in Charleston really like? We’re letting you know! Plus, we end this episode by testing Ally’s immense astrology knowledge and she blows us away! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 It's just such a like the universe is so funny because my best friend from home back in Ohio just got married last year. And we would always joke. She's been my best friend since we were like eight. And we would always say growing up how scared we were to get married because that means our parents have to like see us kiss. Like we would always be like, that's so awkward. And it's like the universe was just like, here we go. I'm about to put it on a silver platter for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Like obviously, you know, I'm 30 now. But like it is just like a funny like how life kind of gives you these lessons and tasks. But yeah, I definitely was also shocked at how much of the bedroom stuff was shown. Yeah. I mean, I just want to apologize because it's like I can like I am not. I'm on this show. Hello. You know, I've, I've done some things. It is just no one has to see that. So I really am sorry for you and your castmates who have to deal with that after. Because that's just, yeah. I. Yeah. Don't be up. Don't apologize. I think these it is. And it's that I'm like, oh, it's a learning lesson for everyone else. I had to live it. So other people. but like for people that are like starting to do these shows or you know anything like that it's just a good wake-up call that like just because you see the seasons before they're always trying to improve or give something more yeah yeah and i mean tv now is just getting more we're all
Starting point is 00:04:23 getting i guess i don't know but yeah i i was shocked especially with the last one i was like was that like really necessary yeah no 100% like at least it did show that like not my and this is probably i'm screaming i know i'm like i'm like i'm like production was i'm like at least it did show like i was like not much about but production was like ell you literally didn't even do anything like you were like talking the whole time and i'm like isn't it so weird though that they literally watch and that they're literally just like actually like that's watching happen that's insane i'm so sorry like insane and they say they're like oh it's 100% just for safety which like i love that they have that in place for when it's needed but i'm like
Starting point is 00:05:04 like why would you say that then if that's not the truth just be like hey whatever you guys do it might be shown i don't know i'm sorry yeah no don't be i really fully thought too and trusted that if anything it would be a minimal like because i feel like it insinuates it as it is you know that's literally the whole point i'm like you guys go in close the door do not disturb we got it the message is left that i literally was like do not disturb i would lose my mind i actually this is why I'm like you guys like 30 because I'm like literally the smallest bits that they've shown from us sometimes I'm like how dare you? No, how dare you show my dress on the ground?
Starting point is 00:05:45 No. It's really crazy. I'm like every day. I'm like yeah. The bachelor really did me did me justice because if I was on any other show, especially like it's already like environments where you're having to like not fight but like you're in a competition for another like I just you guys would see the devil in me. I do. And Stephanie. No. It's scary. And even like I. I, knew the moment I saw my freaking promo photo. I was like, oh, they're going to do me dirty because what is that? I'm like, come on. Don't we have editing software? And I saw the photos when they took them, like, because we had to all do a photo shoot day and we got to leave the house. We left the
Starting point is 00:06:20 house and we did the photos and the photographer let me look through them. And I like got to heart the ones that I liked. And I was like, oh, yeah, no. They chose all the ones you didn't heart. God bless. No. Literally have I heard of powder. Like it was, the worst photo ever and I did know in that moment I was like they're going to do me dirty I knew it I was like that is the roughest photo I've ever seen to myself ever oh how has it been like okay so I know watching back everything has been difficult how has it been just for you emotionally watching this back having to deal with like everything and your castmates um honestly like the weeks of I think god because you know how bachelor I mean what that was months like thank God this was just a three
Starting point is 00:07:04 week batch. Yeah, it was like five and then two and then one or something like that. So I was happy that it was not that long to live through watching it back because that was not fun. I think more so because I like I was shocked of I had fun. Everything I did, I did. Okay. But like there were a lot of moments that I wish were shown that were like good moments or cute moments that I thought happened or you know. And so I think watching it back, I was like, wow. But okay um and then after like when everything happened i was it definitely took a few days of just i almost just had to feel it and just be pissed and be a little upset and like you know yeah like just bedrides at home and and that's okay because i you know i do everything to an extreme so i had
Starting point is 00:07:57 that moment and then i knew i would have you know i got the self-help books on lock and all that. So I was able to get myself back up and I do think I have thicker skin now because of it. It almost is this freeing identity now of like, okay, well, people have seen me. So like nothing to hide or nothing to, nothing's really off limits anymore, I guess. So that's kind of freeing in a weird way. But yeah, I, yeah, it was just like a range of emotions. But I am like on the better side of it now. And people think the most part are being nice. I've, I, I, But like the, it is just wild. I wasn't expecting to be such a polarizing, like, person on it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I know. That's what was surprising to me. I was like, like, like being the polarizing character. I know. I'm like, wait. Oh, my God. I'm like, I'm going to be by the villain. Like.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Never that. Never. Never the villain. Coming off of Bravo. I feel like when you were on Vanderpump Rules, you were obviously in a serious relationship and no one really got to see you. And now people have really seen you. So what's next for you, like dating-wise?
Starting point is 00:09:07 How have you been? It's been a year since perfect match. Wow. Well, we wrapped in November. We went later than you guys, right? Oh, did you? That's right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But yeah. So I moved to Charleston, South Carolina in January. Wow. And I love it. I'm still getting situated. I've been traveling so much. So I'm excited to get like in a routine and, you know. But I.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I am starting to sing out to add. There's a cute place called Zach Dax. It's like a little, it's called Zachary Dacquries, and it's a little dapper. And I'm going to be doing live music, like singing and playing guitar on every Thursday. A little like burly half-down. I have to fly and see you. That's great. It's going to be so cute and fun.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So, yeah. I'm actually going to message you after this because I have something in my mind, yes. But very cute. Okay. I love that. Have you been? to Charleston. I have. I love it. Yeah. Yes. Rachel, you have it. I have been one time and I absolutely loved it, but I have heard that the dating in Charleston's like horrific. Is that true? Yeah. I've heard that
Starting point is 00:10:17 too. I feel like. Describe it. Describe it. Describe it. I don't really even know. I need to know. Yeah. I was like, I could move there, but like I need to find somewhere where I could date, man. Gorgeous place. Stunning. Yeah. No wonder like no good. good men want to move there. It's for the girls. Hello. For the girls. I think Charleston's the perfect place for like girls, girls. That's what they say. Bachelorette. It's a freaking girl town. It is literally a girl town.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'm like for the girls. That's when there's no good guys. And then what's hard is they say, well, they say they caught the Peter Pan syndrome. but like isn't that just everywhere like I don't I don't feel like LA was any better or worse to be honest but also I don't feel like I ever dated that's why I was also intrigued by perfect match because I was like I don't do dating apps I to be honest like I love working and I'm I have loved my independence so much that it's like dating is not like a priority for me it wasn't last year because I was healing. Now I'm, but you know, and it's, so I never really gave L.A.
Starting point is 00:11:37 like a chance either. And then now I feel like I'm here. And I have like gone on dates more here than I did L.A. Okay. Cute. Actually, though, most of them have been from New York, which that's kind of interesting though, too, because we're not that far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And I'll go to New York a lot. So it's like, like New Yorkers, like people kind of come here a lot. people will come from like Charlotte or they'll come from like, you know, so there is a lot of activity here and it is small, but and the guys will like kind of come up to you and like approach you here. And again, I don't know. I was always at gay bars, you know, or like I wasn't. We were. Yes. We were never like, right. I kind of like wish that. We were at the theater piano bar. We were at the theater bar. Yeah. Sam grannies. Love it. Okay. So there are some dating prospects then? Is there anyone like, yeah, I want to know like what's yeah, what type of guys are you
Starting point is 00:12:34 running into that's like red X everywhere like and what's like consider like a green flag there? Yeah, I guess a green flag here is a guy that will, because this is like from my friends that are like really actively and intentionally dating that a lot of the guys will do the whole string you along, take you on dates, wow you. but they're doing it to every other girl in town. And because the town is so small, everyone has a reputation so quickly. And so people will think they met this great guy
Starting point is 00:13:06 and then soon find out, oh, he's also dated frickin' Mary Ellen and Susie Ann and all these other people. And it's just like a whole thing. Literally. It's actually kind of crazy and mind-blowing. But, and the guys, even like I have guy friends here that are like cute and fun and we'll even like flirt.
Starting point is 00:13:26 They just like don't. They aren't really, they're just having fun. Like they're not ready to like settle, like to commit. Yeah, it doesn't give that energy. But then it's also funny because then on the other side, I'll have, I have a lot of friends that are married or are in relationships with great guys. So I feel like it's just kind of our generation. Like there's just, yeah, a lot of, a lot of fun being had. The rules are always, it's not.
Starting point is 00:13:57 clear. So dating for me, I definitely think I, even like with the show that just came out, I'm literally like kind of scared. And I'm also like, okay, when I do date again, I want to really go in intentionally and not just like, oh, this is fun. Because dating, you do have to be vulnerable. And I think I did surprise myself with how you can catch a feeling so quickly. And so, yeah, I don't really, I don't really think I'm like ready to date date. And I've always been like that, though. And I always say, too, like, you always meet the person when you're, like, least expecting it or when you don't want to.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And that's just the energy I've always had. And I feel like for me, it's like, I don't know. I like the element of dating when it's a little bit of a surprise and not like it's a chore. I wish that I did, you know, but because I'm like, okay, I kind of am getting to the point where I'm like, I could share my place with someone. I could see myself opening up like that again. But I just, yeah, I'm not really actively looking. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:15:59 That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape the murder for a child. As bad as it gets. I would think so. People, wake up.
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Starting point is 00:19:01 does that, like, ever come up? Like, do you bring that up, or do guys, like, because I feel like it's almost something that you can't really avoid. It's like it's bound to like at some point, like, okay, well, you know, what have you done or what do you do? And what did you do last year? And it's like, well, this is a big portion of my life, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's so hard. It's impossible to not. Yeah. It's impossible. And I try not to, but then eventually what do you do? And then astrology is also not the easiest explanation for a lot of people, especially in this house, they're like, what? And then I try to explain.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I'm like, no, but I did go to college and I also do this. And, you know, and so you kind of just like have to go down that little, the path, which is okay. People do get to know the truth quickly, you know, most people don't have to bring up their ex on a first date or talk about all the things. But it's like, it's all out there. So here it is. I always say, I'm like, it's so unfair that someone can just go home and Google and see me
Starting point is 00:20:02 like crashing out. Like, that is not fair. I'm not fair. Like, you're on the stairs, no bye. I'm like, the fact that I didn't just get engaged and that was it is like the most unfair thing. And I wanted to ask Allie, too, like, okay, the last two relationships that you've had publicly were with men on reality TV. Would you date another man who's on reality TV? You know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And I mean, like, you would totally expect me to be like, fuck no. And I probably should say fuck no. I think I want to know what you guys both think too but I feel like every time I say never to something or every time I say absolutely not is actually like yep it's like I'm going to take you a lesson that is when the universe is like one more lesson clearly so I honestly don't I have no idea what my next person's career will be what sign he'll be any of that I will say that I do feel like in this world that we do live in. And Rachel, we've talked about this. I love a little like metorosexual. I love a little like flamboyant energy. So I do love like a creative. I usually
Starting point is 00:21:19 am drawn to people who are like musicians or do you know what I. So I feel as much as I would love just like a loyal like accountant that like is hardworking because that sounds great. I just I don't know. that is the balance that I need, but I do, I do love, I love the theatrics a little bit. You do love the theater. I was like every time I'm like, this girl loves a Broadway and a theater. Let's get Allie up there next. Ali, when you were talking about forcing your son to do Broadway. No, that conversation sent me to the moon.
Starting point is 00:21:55 That is so real. Like, I feel like I have this conversation so many times. Oh my gosh. So many opinions on it. I'm like, wait. are we know she was like I will be a stage mom he was like okay awesome but she was like well what are your thoughts on it he was like I mean yeah like cool he was not away but like that's what's given me grace during this whole thing is freaking up-course women and like having people be like
Starting point is 00:22:22 they relate and agree because like thank God also like put it all out there put it all out there Like, you learn so much by giving them the most and then letting them deal with it how they will. Like, I, yeah. And obviously, obviously, I will be happy if my kid is healthy and happy doing whatever they want. Allie, my favorite moment on perfect match was when Jimmy was having a conversation on the balcony and you went in the room and you open the door and you go, love you. And you closed it? I feel like, what was happening in that moment?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Because that was the funniest thing I've ever. People either think that that was funny or that I am absolutely undiagnosed and unhinged. But I'm like, have you ever been? It was serious. Thank you. Some do, Rachel. I'm like, if you've ever been to a sleepover and, like, they have like siblings and you go, like, spy on the sibling.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, you have to make your own fun. Like, it gets pouring in there. Like, they were talking for hours. And I'm like, okay, Alice and I love you, but how many more TikTok dances can we do like and we didn't even have our phone and I love her that's a bad like but you know what I'm saying like you literally are in a house kind of getting bored getting a little antsy and I was like you like that was hilarious I'm sorry that was the funniest thing I've ever seen oh my god Sophie the next day was like um someone said she was upset and then I talked to her and she was not
Starting point is 00:23:52 upset like it was just funny like the guys are always so like dramatic and Yes. And like Sophie and I like hit it off immediately because we didn't take it that seriously. She is so unserious also. Like she started laughing when Jimmy was like having that heart to heart with you. It's conversation. I lost it too. I was like I can't. This is like this is insane behavior. Like where was that coming from in front of everyone to you? I'm like it's giving a little performative. Like why are we declaring love in front of the entire cast? Like I don't know. That was also like. that whole night and they didn't show a lot you know they showed two and like it was yeah like there was a lot that happened like alison yelling at jimmy and every and it was i felt bad for jimmy
Starting point is 00:24:40 that night because i was like they don't know him obviously on the level that i did but yeah yeah but um that was hard because yeah it was just like going in circles of like you're not being intentional And I'm like, okay. Is this The Bachelor? Like, what? I know. That's what I, yeah, I was like, it's okay. I'm not getting engaged at the end of this.
Starting point is 00:25:06 That's what I always say. I'm like, the prize is a vacation. And I don't want that. I want to go home. Exactly. I'm like, I don't want to go on a trip with this person. Like, what is the prize here? The prize is I'm going.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, literally, back to the hotel to get a latte and have my own room with bitterly iced coffee please yes and like yeah yeah I would love to do a vacation with like the girls or I know I was like hello let's make a girl's trip right like can we just actually get the money can it yeah but at one point I did actually like Jimmy like at the end I was like oh if we did one gay we would get a trip like but that just is funny to me now because like I was just that only works if you really like you know like I need to be madly in love like please you not lock me away on a trip with a man that I'm like half serious I don't know I need to be like,
Starting point is 00:25:55 I love it honestly. It would have been fine because I guess that's what we were already doing anyway. Like you're like basically, but it's like, yeah, I don't know. Even by the time you guys got done filming, I don't know if I still would want to like, you know, I would really need to like you, really need to like you. At least your couple took their trip. Our perfect match did not. Did anyone get it?
Starting point is 00:26:17 So Lucy and Daniel won. Yeah. Crazy because everyone in the house voted for 80 and Ollie who are now married and have a beautiful baby girl. That was my perfect match. Lucy didn't want to win and then everyone outside the house voted for them. Rachel, stop. You're joking. No. It was like crazy situation and then they ended up not even taking the trip and Lady and Lady are so happy now. So there's always at least that one happy couple that doesn't win. It sounds like in your season's Jimmy and Allie. Allison, yeah. Yeah. No. This is interesting how production really
Starting point is 00:26:54 really, really gets in there on this show. Really? Were they like not that? Well, I just mean even like how if you're, because, um, no, even if Adi and Ollie were like, were they, you think that they did, everyone did vote them, but they made it look like. No, we all, well, everyone who was in the house with them and knew them personally voted for them. Voted for them. Yeah, okay. It was everyone who wasn't in the house.
Starting point is 00:27:16 In my opinion, that didn't vote for them. That didn't. Yeah, there was just a lot happening. Pride Month, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence. IHeart Radio is proud to be an official sponsor of Pride Toronto Festival and we won't stop. Celebrate Pride. Turn up the love and listen to IHeart Pride Canada, your 24-7 radio stream and the only playlist you need for your Toronto Pride celebrations. Pride is so great because it gives a whole bunch of people this visibility that they've never had before.
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Starting point is 00:28:11 It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fair to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape and murder for a child. She's as bad as it gets. I would think so.
Starting point is 00:28:26 People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder. placed by crevette and de pippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said, I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief. Listen to the devil's quarry on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And to hear the devil's quarry ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Love for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer, and that was more difficult.
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Starting point is 00:29:43 And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.
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Starting point is 00:30:23 We dropped, like, five right now. That's the rate we got to be going. Yeah, that's a good attitude. You also hear stories from industry legends and hip-hop pioneers like Fab Five Freddy. I directed whenaz's early videos. Which one? One love. Wow.
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Starting point is 00:31:00 Listen to Drink Chams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, because you're, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Allison and Jimmy are figuring it out. I'm not going to speak for them, but, figuring it out a year later is wild. I think that- I need a title.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Come on now. What are we figuring out? I don't have one. I talk to her too. Like me and want to figure this out as a girlfriend, boyfriend or not. Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, I don't want to say, well, they,
Starting point is 00:31:39 they're figuring it out. That's all right. They're figuring it out. But yeah, I do think that the show, I do think that the show came out and like the showman's energy of it all got empty their veins, which makes sense because even for me, I had to really, really, really, really set like boundaries with myself because it's hard watching it back. I want to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:32:06 It's hard watching it back. But they had both never done dating. shows either. So I felt for them and I think watching it back's weird and you like are you saying it was harder like it was hard on their relationship watching it back or it made them like lean into it more than what they probably the latter. Okay. Yeah. May that never be my portion. No, I rebuked that off my life. Oh my gosh. There's been like a lot of drama kind of happening postseason with your cast, especially with like Natalie and I feel like there's just been a lot happening. I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I'm like, that's right. Let's pick up the cameras, put it on them. That's what I said. I'm like, the drama that's happening while it's airing is what people need to see. Literally. No, but yeah, Natalie and Chris started dating. And then he cheated with, you know, didn't technically cheat. I love all of them separately.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You know, it's hard. But it is, it's, yeah. Was that like that with your season? Who was Natalie with? Okay, so Natalie ended the show. They got second place. Natalie and Gayman. I don't think that production showed that.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I don't remember. But Natalie and Gayman got second place. And then, I don't remember the timeline. But basically she started, her and Chris started forming a relationship outside of the show. She said that Gucci Wallet. She said, that's how that. wait what happened when Chris at the Gucci wallet
Starting point is 00:33:40 I was like so much as he should have brought that out showed everyone for stay this is so funny like he was always in his room I'm like how was he allowed like everyone just had he was like anyway
Starting point is 00:33:55 I think they just didn't let you in the room no honestly they would they would have found a way to let me rest truly like they would have let me say in that room and apparently everyone had their phone if you got up before like 8 a.m. you could have your phone until 8 a.m. I didn't know that. Oh, rise and shine. Jimmy Sotoz just said that on a podcast and I was like, that is true. The earlier you get up and I was
Starting point is 00:34:19 right out of back because I was trying to get out of that room. I was resurrected. I wouldn't even have anyone to call. I would just be like in the corner. I know. Carly, my social media was like, why does everyone have TikToks and you don't? I was like, literally beats me. And then I saw that podcast and I was like, oh, I got my phone a few. I think I called you. I got my phone a few like mornings. And I was like calling home, phoning a fucking friend.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Help, what am I doing? And doing everyone's astrology, of course. So I had my phone plug it all in. Yeah. But that's funny. Were you like the resident astrologer? Were you like telling everyone who was like a match and who wasn't? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 No, I really wasn't. Because I try to not use astrology for that, honestly. Because I think it's important to vibe, you know, meet your people, see how it goes. And then we can look at the astrology like later. So yeah, I really wasn't. But I did do jimmies and like knew his, I like studied his like one day when I did get my phone. And I was like, okay, there's more under the surface than he lets on. He's a deep thinker.
Starting point is 00:35:32 He feels everything. He's got a lot of eighth house stuff. on. Okay. Secrets. And just kidding. I'm not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 No, she's not. Nope. Yeah. We weren't that compatible astrologically, really, now that I think about it, you know? And I think that's what's interesting about astrology, because if you wanted to work, you will do your sinistry and you will find even like the harsher placements. And you'll, but that's the truth. of astrology anyway. I think we're all connected. And I don't want to use astrology as like a yes or no.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But instead of a how do we work together. Obviously there's people, even like us, we share similar big threes. Like you usually naturally connect and vibe and flow with similar energy to you. But when it comes to dating, it's usually, yeah, it's interesting. It can be all over the place because it depends, oh, their Venus might activate your moon or it could activate this part of you, but we're all getting activated by energy somewhere. So I don't know if that makes it. Activation for sure. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And I'm activated. How are you guys? I want to hear about your guys as dating. I feel like, I don't even know. I'm happily committed to one singular person. She is getting married very, very soon, and I'm single. all the rain. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Same update. I'm working on Rachel, though. I really am. I know. Rach, what if your cowboy, slightly gay cowboy is in Charleston? You know what? That's a very good point.
Starting point is 00:37:14 We're going to have to explore that when we come and see you at your residency. But speaking of astrology, we would love to play a little game with you to end this out if you are okay with it. Yes. So we are going to play a game where we are going to give you a celebrity. and you have to tell us what you think their sign is and like what qualities they have that might represent that sign if you already know it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So we're going to start out first with Timothy Shalameh. Capricorn. And he, right? Mm-hmm. Yes. And he is such a Capricorn. What was the movie that he just did, the Marty Supreme movie? And then did you hear his like Oscar speech?
Starting point is 00:37:57 No. I don't think I remembered it. It was like, I related to Marty Supreme because he wants to be the best at what he does. And he's all like, I've always, like, I want to be the best. I want to be so good. And I'm just like Capricorn energy. Oh, love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I love that. Capricorn. So I do like that a lot. Wait. Wait, wait, your date. Yours is a cap. Wait. I'm a Capricorn.
Starting point is 00:38:20 No, you're a Capricorn, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I also feel like he has great bone structure. And don't they say Capricorn placements have like the bone structure. I've seen that. Hello. Fuck. Hello.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yes. I don't know where my stress. I'm just bony in general. But I'm like, but that's, yeah. I've heard it. Yes. And your rising sign is a lot about your features too. I'm a Scorpio.
Starting point is 00:38:44 What does that say? Mysterious. That's more like alluring. Like you're like, oh, I want to know every. Siren. Exactly. It's like, I want to know everything about you. But you're like, boundaries.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yes. That's correct. Charity's big three is so her. Like, I feel like she screams her big three. And same with you, Rachel. You're so, don't you have cry, baby. Aren't we, wait, so we're the same. You're Pisces?
Starting point is 00:39:12 We have the same signs in different placements. Because I'm like Pisces son, Libra Moon. We have the same Libra Moon. And then Capricorn Rising. Yeah. So I'm a Capricorn son. Like you, Libre and Pisces Rising. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Amazing. Okay. Let's do the next one. Zendaya. Okay. I actually not sure, but she is. But I would guess like Aquarius or something, something or something watery. Ooh, Virgo maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Okay, what is she? She's a Virgo. She's a Virgo? Yeah. Do you know for Moon and Rising? I don't. I'm like, you're good. How did you know that?
Starting point is 00:39:53 What qualities for Virgo do she has? I was like, so it's interesting with actors because they usually all like think of the parts that they play. But then I try to like, okay, let me actually think about just she's so articulate. The way that she like carries herself. And also, I don't know, Virgo's like, I can spot. There's certain signs that I'm not good at spotting. Aries and usually fire signs I'm not that good at.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Sagittarius kind of, but Virgo is for some reason. And I don't know if it's because I'm a Pisces rising. So they're my opposite sign. But I can usually spot a Virgo or like Virgo energy. but there's certain ones that I can't but I bet that she I don't know why she definitely gives me Aquarius somewhere too so they just put in our chat that she Aquarius rising yes this is crazy it's weird once you start like it's like how it's literally like my language it's it's weird I'm dead okay I love that Aquarius Ryan Reynolds okay okay I know I know I know
Starting point is 00:40:59 I know Blake lively is a Virgo. Is he a Scorpio? I think I knew this because I've done. He is. God, he's a Scorpio. He is a Scorpio. Which that he surprises me there. That surprises me.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Really? Why? What would you think that he is? I would almost think Virgo or Jim and I, like, he's so witty and so funny and so giving with his energy. So being a Scorpio's son is interesting because that does tell me, okay, there's more to him than like that we're not seeing or that we're not getting. which I kind of love.
Starting point is 00:41:34 You know, there's like a more mysterious darker side to him. I do get the dark humor with the Sperpio for sure. Love his humor. But yeah. Amazing. Okay. Paris Hilton. Quirius.
Starting point is 00:41:50 She's our Aquarius queen, right? Yes. Right. She's so querious-coded because she's so, like, she's talked about the ADHD, but also. just the way that if you think about her literal family and how easy it would have been for her to stay in a lane, you know? Yeah. But the Aquarius in her was like, no, shaking it up.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah. That's so true. She really does like she created reality TV in a way. Well, you were iconic for knowing all these and so talented. And for those who are listening, where can they follow you if they don't? already. Yay. At Allie, A-L-L-Y, Louver. Yeah. Thank you, Allie. This was so fun. I'm like, that was so fun.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Our readings with you and hopefully our viewers can schedule one with you too because I feel like people need to know what's going on. Yeah, yeah. Totally. And if you guys ever, obviously, text me if you guys will. I will be sending you the birth chart again. I already have parents. I need yours charity. Yeah, no, I'm like, I'm just next. I'm next to line. But even knowing your rising sign helps me. It's almost like my friends are grouped and like I know the rising signs. So I know when people are about the experience things. So interesting.
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