Bachelor Happy Hour - Allyshia Gupta: Dating, Rumors, and What’s Next | Happy Hour

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are catching up with Allyshia Gupta! She talks about what dating looks like for her these days — including the story behind getting banned from a popular dating app. Allyshia also shares her thoughts on the Dale and Kat rumors and gives her perspective on what’s been circulating. Plus, she opens up about where things stand with Sean today and how their relationship has changed since the show. And finally, would Allyshia ever consider heading to “Paradise”? She breaks down how she feels about returning to the beach and what it would take for her to say yes. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey everyone welcome back to bachelor happy hour i'm joe and i'm and we are here today with alicia alicia welcome back to bachelor happy hour hey guys thanks for being back You are just saying you believe that dogs want gifts. I do. I think animals are much. Presence, I should say. Presents, yeah. Christmas or a Hanukkah, whatever you celebrate.

But, yeah, he basically told me that dogs, they get the idea of, like, gift giving. So it's very important you put a present under the Christmas tree from them. So like on Christmas Day or whenever you're opening your gifts, they're part of the, like, ceremony. And yeah, my dog's getting a little bit too excited and starting to open some Christmas presents early. It's so interesting, though, that they see wrapped boxes and they're like, I want to know what's inside. I know. I mean, he was going for something that was like a scented candle, if I can tell. So maybe he's going off like the smells, but I don't know. Is it put a gift under the tree that's like to mommy from bagel?

Yeah, or from bagel to like my sister or my mom or whoever. I'll get presents for other people from Bagel. My mom does that for our dog. That's adorable. Get Winston gifts more often. I know. I know. We should bring him a gift.

Yeah, he's a good boy. Bagel confirms Winston would like more gifts. Yeah. I think I know this, but you're in Florida, right? I'm in L.A. right now, but my mom's in Florida. And I usually do spend the holidays back home in Florida. But this will be one of the first years that I'm spending it out in. L.A. with my sister and my mom's going to fly out and do a little Christmas here together,

just the three of us. Are you living in L.A.? Are you just there visiting your sister? Yeah, I've been in L.A. for probably the last six months permanently. So I've been living and working out here. And in between, you know, shows, I can go to Florida to visit. But I've really primarily spent most of my time on the West Coast since actually most of all of 2025 now. Can't believe I can't believe I have that. I love it. I love it. it. You know, it's like kind of a homecoming for me because I always wanted to live in L.A., never had visited. And then after college, I applied to some jobs out here and landed, like, my first job in L.A. thought it was going to be my dream job. Had a week moved out, how to live with some

random roommates online. And I just fell in love. And I worked out here for a couple of years up until the pandemic hit. And then my lease was up. And so naturally, I was like, okay, I'll go quarantine in Florida with my family for a couple months and you know the story goes it was a lot longer than that so it took me some time to get back to the west coast but i do feel like almost like i'm back home in a way yeah do you think you could are you somebody could you ever live in cold weather no i mean i have i did do new york for a couple years and that was brutal um and then being born in england like it's very very chilly there most of the year um especially in the north but i would prefer not to. If I have my choice, I would absolutely prefer, like, I think a week of snow is great.

Build a snowman, go skiing, do all the, like, activities. And then, yeah, I would love to come back to, like, a beach and be in a bikini on Christmas Day. That's so fine with me. Yeah. Yeah, Joe always says, and I do agree, like, leaving Christmas Day or the day after Christmas to go somewhere warm when you are living somewhere cold is a good feeling. It is, but I guess it's also, like, the grass is always greener, right? Because, like, then in return, And when you're in Florida, I have so many family members and friends that complain. Like, it's so weird that we don't have snow. And, like, we'd love to have a cold Christmas day.

And it's like, you want what you can't have. Yes. I do like a chilly holiday season. Like, I like snow. I just want to leave. I just want to leave Christmas night. I want to leave Christmas night and then come back in April. Yeah.

And of April. Like, the new year doesn't need to be dark and rainy and cold for, like, the next couple months. I think the day after Christmas, like, we should wrap up with all the cold. I agree. Well, it is. I'm like, yeah. And like this is a nice time of year in New York, but like still, it's like I was walking home yesterday and it was 4.15 and I'm like it's it's dark out. Like it's fucking dark out already. And I'm just like, ugh. Yeah. That's another thing. It's like seasonal depression is so real. And I think when I don't get as much sunshine, maybe it's because I grew up like a lot in Florida where we had that. But something about not getting the sun is like. will put me in a funk. Yeah. Yeah, I know.

I agree. I need more sun myself. I'm very pale right now. Okay. Yeah. Next to Serena, you're always going to be pale. I hate to make this. That's true.

We've just got that good tan. Now we're going to catch up on this melan. But last time we chatted with you, you had just enjoyed a lot of sun on Bachelor in Paradise. And we caught up with you kind of mid-season. You couldn't say everything, but we had an awesome chat. That's great. Let's just touch base quickly on, like, everything unfolded.

You kind of had it out with Kat. And we recently have seen posts that have confirmed Kat and Dale have likely broken up. Were you aware of this? What have you heard? Are you still interested in Dale? Where are we at with all of the, this like love triangle-esque situation? That's so funny. You know, I don't keep up with like,

what Kat and Dale have been doing post the show, so I don't know about their current relationship status. I'm not surprised if they have split up, but I think that's just, you know, I'm a pretty big believer that in time the truth comes out, everything comes out. So, but, you know, I'm not one to like champion any breakup. So I wish them both the best if they did decide to go their separate ways. I don't have an interest in Dale anymore. You know, I think it was one thing on the beach in paradise had we had the opportunity to. It was something I would have explored. But I think after the entire season and especially with him and the cat drama, I just don't think that the same guy who is going to date Cat is going to be interested in having a serious relationship with me. So for all intents and purposes, I date because I want a husband. I want to have kids. I want to start a family. And I'm really, looking for somebody who is qualified and also wants that in return. So yeah, I would say I don't look back moving forward. But that's not surprising to hear. Are you dating anyone now? Are you currently

dating at least? No. No. God, no. No. I wish I was. I'm just, like I said, like I'm, I wouldn't say I'm picky. I'm just, I don't want to date just to date. Like my time is valuable. I would, rather spend my Friday nights on the sofa with my little sister or my friends or bagel than, you know, going on a first date if it's never going to go somewhere. And I think a lot of people date at this age just because it's fun. Like I have a lot of friends who love to go out on the first date. And they like, like, they love to have that like, you know, the first match. I don't, I don't like getting to know. But how do you know if it's not going to go somewhere if you don't go on the date? And that is the predicament I'm in because part of me, I'm like, my husband's not going to be at a sports bar at two in the morning on a Thursday.

So, like, why would I go up? I don't care if I'm going to meet someone there. That's not my future husband. But then my sister does argue with me. She's like, you've got to put yourself out there to some degree if you want to meet someone. So I don't know. I mean, I'm open to it. I just really haven't had any matches that have interested me whatsoever.

And I think maybe I'm a little jaded from paradise experience. you know, getting to know someone and thinking that there's someone very different than who they ended up being, that was a little bit of a setback for me in terms of dating. So I don't know if it's the walls or if it's timing or I don't know, but no. What about Hinge? I am blocked off Hinge. I got banned off Hinge. I couldn't tell you.

Why? I don't know. I think just because I didn't go out on dates with some of the people I matched with, somebody must have reported me. And I emailed Hinge and I was like, who? Who reported me? They're like, we can't, we can't say that. So I don't know.

I think it was just like somebody would hurt feelings. And then I was like, I'm not going to beg to be back on Hinge. If I got banned from Hinge, I think that's a sign that, like, God's saying your husband's also not on there. So I'm on Raya. And, yeah, I mean, I go out occasionally, but it's tough. All the good ones are, like, either married at this age or, I don't know, not serious enough. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, it is a dating, dating world is the wild, wild west, but if you don't put yourself out there, then it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. I know. I do put myself out there. I'm one who like slides in the DMs. I will like ask the guy out first if I'm interested. And honestly, I've seen some of the guys who I think might be on Taylor Frankie Paul's season. And if I'm right about any of those guys, then maybe that will open a whole different. world of possibilities. It looks like it could be a very good cast. It does.

And like they're older. They are okay with having kids, obviously. And I feel like she's going for like a real man, like a cowboy man. And I like that. I haven't had, I haven't dated one of those before. So maybe that's, maybe that's in my future. Hey, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric.

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And why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more stress after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life.

I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Robert Smith. Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very

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your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is Shoes and identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family,

we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you... Stante with Sean. I don't speak to Sean. Oh, okay. We're not on speaking terms anymore. No, not because of anything, like, happened that we're not on speaking terms. We're not on speaking terms.

We just don't have a relationship. I thought that Sean and I had created a relationship off of what was a friendship first and a foundation, and that was kind of broken. And he did a lot of things behind my back that was unbeknownst to me that really shocked me. And to be honest, moving forward, like, if I don't want a boyfriend like that, I don't want any friends like that either. So there's no, like, bad blood.

between us. I think we are just very different people looking for different things in friendships and in relationships. So, no, we don't have much like crossover or things to talk about. He wished me a happy birthday and every now and then, you know, he'll respond to a story here and there. But I'm not that interested in keeping that relationship open or moving forward. I mean, that's honestly pretty, pretty common from the show. Just like people, like, they get close in paradise. And then like, it's just like life happens. Right. Like you live in different places. You realize you, you don't connect as well as you did in the scenario you were put in. And it's just like, okay. Like no bad blood, but we're just not. People that we're just not. Yeah. We're just not like close. I think there's also, it feels like there's almost like a double layer of relationships in Bachelor Nation as well, which I really felt like after Bachelor in Paradise, because. you get to know these real people and these people who are, you know, your castmates,

whatever, or your co-stars on The Bachelor or the other girls who are dating the same guy as you. Like, you get to know them. They're real people. They're real relationships. And then almost after the show, there is like a social media or online relationships between people. And I felt like, I don't know, I think there's a lot of people who go on the show who come off the show and are kind of still living in this. like online reality or like care about the stuff that's being said online.

And it's like, you know me. I would prefer to be like, have a real relationship with someone, I guess is the best way of saying. I don't know how to articulate that in a better way. But yeah, I think there's a lot of people who go on The Bachelor who are really concerned with their image post airing regardless of what their actual personal relationships. are. And to me that I don't really love that. So I think Sean kind of fell into that category a little bit. If you could go on any of the other dating reality shows, is there anything you

would be interested in doing? Oh, God. I don't know. I think anything that would have a real shot at like leading to a relationship, I would really be open to, I would really be open to another round at Bachelor in Paradise if we get another one i was gonna say i was gonna ask that because if i feel like i need a redemption art if there's some of taylor frankie paul's guys that you are interested in that would be that would be the perfect match and i feel like they threw you down kind of as like a potster wild card like mid season like you came in so late you were the last person it would be fun to see you down there first yeah like i was so excited for paradise because i was really excited to like date people and get to know people like what we just said i don't

go out a lot. So, like, for me, it's very rare to be in an environment where you're just solely focusing on that. And I'm being very intentional about that. So I was really excited to have that opportunity and really thought, like, I would meet a couple people that might be a match that, you know, might turn into something serious. And unfortunately, like, just the timing of it, I don't feel like I went to paradise. I came in two weeks late. And then as soon as the first rose ceremony, we got told it's now a game show and you're competing with the couple. And you're competing with the couple who you're couple up with. So I don't think I got the dating side of it.

If you were on a competition show. You definitely did do our Paradise that we did. No. It was very different. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, I think that you have better odds almost with a reality show like Paradise where there are multiple people all getting to know each other in what's more

of a relaxed environment than like the one-on-one bachelor type shows. And even just, you know, statistically, like you're more likely to find a match there. So I would be open to do. Paradise again. That was a lot of fun. And I think I've learned a lot about myself and how other people can be on shows like that. So I think I would go into it with probably like a very different mentality than previously. Yeah. Nice. Okay. Well, speaking of reality shows, moving away from dating, we know that you were just on, well, you're going to be on. You've just recently filmed this HGTV bachelor mansion makeover show what can you tell us about that

yeah that um way more exciting than dating shows because one HGTV like that's so exciting I grew up watching it love it I'm an interior designer by profession so yeah I was going to that that is your so that is your job yes yes so um you know going into it I was like so excited because when it comes to my love life and dating, yeah, I don't really have a clue how I'm going to meet my Mr. Perfect or I'm very off track in that department. But when it comes to design and all things home interior design and renovation, like that is my sweet spot. So I was really excited to be tapped for that and asked to come on the show. I had no idea, you know, what was in store for us or what it was really going to entail. But I know the Bachelor Mansion

desperately needed a makeover and a little bit of a facelift. So I knew we would be doing something to the really iconic Bachelor Mansion. And I think that's all I can say for now. What is your interior design like style? Do you have like a certain style that you can explain? Yeah. I mean, I hate that question in a way because my personal opinion, any good interior design is never one style. It's a combination of multiple. And I think that's what makes design and interior designers really complex and meaningful and thoughtful. So I wouldn't just say one specific design style would be my taste. And I also say it really just depends on the project and the building. So for The Bachelor Mansion, for example, beautiful Spanish revival home and style.

That would be, it doesn't matter if I love modern, clean everything. That would be crazy to come in and put that inside a home with those types of bones. So oftentimes, and why Jill was so useful for the show as well, you do look at the architecture of the building and the facade itself to kind of direct you and indicate what style is going to be mirrored on the inside. And then from there, I like to pull a lot of different things. I'm really loving maximalism right now. I'm really loving Bauhaus and I'm really loving brutalism.

I would say those are like three for 2026 that I'm exploring more and trends that are on the forefront of interior design. What is brutalism? Brutalism is a type of interior design style that is kind of revival now, but it's essentially design based off function. So things were never meant to be beautiful. They were meant to be functional and built like a machine. And so it was a very scientific approach to interior design. And now people are praising, it's kind of like a Kim Kardashian-style house where it's very minimal, a lot of stones, a lot of cold concrete textures, clean lines, and very natural material. So you see a lot of stones, a lot of woods, a lot of marbles.

Sounds almost contrasting to maximalism a little bit. It is, it is. And that's why it's so hard to pick, like, one interior design style, because I think, the best designs they are a combination of so many do you are you like are you anti any colors like if you were to design your own place is are you like absolutely not like there's no orange in my fucking house no way i i'm all for like every single color time and place there's a right i mean part of my um education and experience in design i i went to get my master's for interior design and architecture. And so in that you learn the importance of color theory and more than that,

the psychology behind color and how important each color kind of plays a role in the house and in the space. And I think that's a big part of my approach to design is thinking about how it's going to make a person feel when they're in that room. And color massively plays into that. So there's not one color that's off for me, but I would say purple is not my favorite. I really work with purple. Okay. How do you feel like your experience? with interior design helped you in this competition? I mean, I was ready for this competition, for sure. If anything, I wish I...

And you're one of the few people that are on the show that have competition experience, too. What do you mean? Like having done the... Haven't done paradise. I mean, having done paradise. And you really did Paradise the second half of Paradise. So you...

A lot of people on the show have only ever been on reality dating show. Yeah, yeah. And I felt, like I said, like so much more comfortable. It's like, okay, I... I'm kind of in control of my own destiny here because I'm good at this. And, you know, I didn't know what the outcome of going on the Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise was going to be. You hope that it's an end goal that you get to. But with this, I was like, I came in.

I'm like, why there's no reason why I won't win this show. Like, I can do this. I feel so confident. I know I'm good at this. I was also just excited to like share my ideas with such an iconic project, like the Bachelor Mansion. That's huge. Um, you know, it's like, I'm pretty sure it's the most filmed home on television or in reality TV or something. It's surprising.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it really stuck to it. Yeah. So, I mean, it definitely prepared me. Um, it prepared me, but there's also things that you just cannot be ever prepared for when it comes to anything related to, you know, Bachelor. And of course, the HGTV show, um, there's some like twists and turns in the plot. So you'll have to watch to see how it all unfolds.

And so, yeah, I was prepared as prepared as I could be going into it. Hey, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. Did you know that I recently joined Substack? It's where I'll be sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. Journalists breaking news, politicians making it, actors we can't stop watching, experts, and a few unexpected voices who just might change the way you see the world. I'll also share what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me roll my eyes, and what's giving me hope.

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I knew it was a bomb the second that it exploded. I felt it ripped through me with just a four. more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Ripcurrent, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Berry and why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California.

They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area. But more than it was the culture, it was the way of life. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother.

And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one

or just joining the Family Secrets family, We're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. Was there anyone that you were happy to see or enjoyed, like, meeting for the first time? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Joan. Okay.

I have, like, a girl crush on Joan. I love her. She does have great style. Like, she does. She always puts the other, like, really great outfits. I feel like any clips they showed of her, like, in her home on her season, it always looked, like, really well designed. Exactly. She was just such a joy to be around and, like, really made my HGTV bachelor renovation experience.

so much better like i couldn't imagine doing it without her as someone who has their masters in interior design and you do it professionally are you are there ever like hair like for like i believe that i am like i could be a good like i could joe has a secret passion for interior design i do i do no no yes i have yes i have that's a lot that's not true i designed my i designed my old condo that i no longer have but I designed it myself um and you know what that photo has been passed around to like your cousin million other people that pasta photo everyone wants their hands on it I know um true true but like so someone like me who has like little to no experience right are you ever like impressed or surprised or by like seeing someone that doesn't know what they're doing

design an apartment or a home or are you always like okay this is is amateur this is amateur work. Most of the time I would say it does fall into like the amateur category just because there is there's a science behind design and like there's principles that make a design a good design, balance, harmony, rhythm, repetition. So there are certain elements that you can categorize and objectively look at and say is this, you know, does this fall into like a good design? But I will say also, you know, some people are naturally born with an eye.

And I think you're probably falling into that category, Joe, where, like, you've got an eye for design. That doesn't mean that you can see our, our, our, our, our, he didn't do any of, well, I didn't do this. I didn't do this. I didn't do this. So. Yeah, I love that you're, like, very offended by. Like, you can't, your name's not on the design right now. Like, he's not attaching his name to this backdrop.

But no, I would say there are people that do surprise me every now and then. And I think you get really fresh, cool ideas when you are coming. from a place of perhaps less analytical background and more of just a creative mind that comes up with cool concepts. So it's a little bit of both, but it's also very difficult to, I think what's very difficult and was difficult with the show is when you're working with other people who don't have that background and experience, it's, you don't want to, I never want people to feel like their ideas aren't hurt. because creatively, I think ideas, everybody's ideas are equally as important. The execution of it is where I think an interior designer with a professional background and education in it will perhaps excel in like the execution, you know, right? Between like the idea and execution.

Oh, for sure. I mean, if we're on the show, if we're on the show together, you and I, like, I might be like, oh, I think this looks really pretty, but also. What do you think? I'm not an interior designer. Like, why would we go with my opinion? over yours in a situation like that. Yeah, but, you know, that's also like, that's part of the show and heads definitely

butt and that was, I thought, the most challenging part because obviously coming from a background or I'm like, listen, I get paid to do this. This is like when the show is done, I'm going back to doing this. No offense for other people, but like I, it was important that my voice was heard and that's a really tricky line to like kind of walk because people do get their feelings hurt and they do take it personally that, well, why didn't you like that color? chair that I picked out. And it's not a personal, you know, opinion. It's just this is professionally something my name's now going to be attached to. And the same way Joe doesn't want, you know,

to take responsibility for the gnome and the leopard sheet in the background. It's like, I don't want my name to be, especially as a professional interior designer. I don't want it to be attached to things that are really, really poorly executed. Or just even not your work. Or not my work. exactly so it's hard when there's a lot of different cooks in the kitchen you got you get some crazy um outcomes would you ever work like that in the outside world like do you have your own company or are you do you work for a company like how does that i do i have my own company um but you seldom work on your own in any interior design project or architecture project from the contractors to subcontractors, multiple designers, you have specialists depending on, you know, the stones

you're using, kitchen, bath, tiles. So I'm used to working with a lot of different people. I think the biggest thing is a lot of them who come from that industry, they don't take it personally. Like, we understand. If somebody told me, like, I picked a floor and they're like, absolutely not. I wouldn't, it wouldn't let, like that, I wouldn't think about that ever again. because you just can't be like that in this industry. And I think for a lot of people who haven't had that, um, that experiences that I have,

like it was a little bit of a shock to them to hear like, no, or we shouldn't be doing this or, um, you know, their idea is not necessarily like celebrated. So, um, I'm used to working with a lot of different personalities.

The difference is I'm not used to a lot of reality TV personalities. I mean, that checks out. And it, it kind of um goes in line with just like every other reality competition show like you always have you have certain people or players on there that play the game you know as it as it's a game there's other people that go in there and they take everything you say personally and that's essentially what makes a good reality TV show exactly and we have I will say like the cast

for this HG TV show coming up is really such an array of Bachelor Nation alums from decades and like old, young, new, you know, professionals, novice. There's a really, it's a good hodgepodge of people. And I think that also makes for really interesting design and even better TV. Yeah, we're looking forward to it. So, yeah, we're excited to watch. And yeah, I think, I think that's it. Alicia, thank you so much for taking the time.

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