Bachelor Happy Hour - Allyshia Spills the TEA!

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Allyshia from this season of “Paradise”! Allyshia makes her “Happy Hour” debut and she does NOT disappoint! We ...kick things off by going back to Grant’s season and ask why she left so soon?! Then, we get into her trip to India and the many similarities she and Serena share in their heritage. And, of course, we dive into all things “Paradise” where she tells us about her attraction to Dale, how she ultimately chose Sean for her date, and so much more. She reveals all her hot takes on the Jeremy/Susie situation, certain moves from her fellow contestants that surprised her, and a few “what ifs” she’s been thinking over. Allyshia did not hold back! Be sure to tune in now and subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for it. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
Starting point is 00:00:50 and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she going to keep it a century. The American public is used to be. being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:01:27 But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Jennifer Lopez and in the new season of the Overcomfit podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst Candace Parker, who gives insight into her candid new book, including why she's, waited two years into marriage to come out. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my
Starting point is 00:02:36 prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode as politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Better Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Alicia.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Alicia, welcome to Badger Happy Hour at your first time on the podcast. Yes, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. We're excited to have you. I think we should start all the way back on grant season because we actually talked about you quite a bit when we recapped grant season because you were such a big part of episode one and then poof, you were gone. Yeah. Yeah, that is a pretty good recount of how things went. I obviously, you guys know, like I did have a first kiss with him. We did share a really good. conversation and those continued to happen while I was on the show. So I was just as equally shocked the night that he sent me home, the previous conversation we had leading into that rose ceremony, he also kind of gave me reassurance that we had a really good connection and
Starting point is 00:03:43 he was excited to see me again. I gave him some photos of my family and he said, I'll give these back to you when I see you again. So in my head, I'm like, okay, that's him kind of giving me a wink. like you're getting through this rose ceremony without actually doing it. So, yeah, I was surprised, but I guess that's how it goes on The Bachelor. Two or week three? Week two, right? Me too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah. That's interesting. It was so shocking. Yeah, like it's going like you share a kiss. Everything's going well. Your conversations are going well. And then he takes photos. He's like, these are mine now.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You're actually not getting these bags. actually see you later um did you ever did you ever speak with grant again do you have any idea why he did end up sending you home no i don't know exactly why he sent me home my guess would be like physically i'm not his type like he probably doesn't like blondes and blue eyes which is fair enough we all have a type um i have spoken with him after i went to celebrate him and juliana at their engagement party post um filming so i saw him there and his mom and family and um we're all on good pages. It's just very friendly vibes between us too. Nice. Because you left The Bachelor so early, were you surprised when you got the call about Paradise? Yeah, I was so surprised. I was surprised
Starting point is 00:05:06 because I left early and I had never watched Paradise before, so I really had no idea what to expect. And then, you know, going into summer, I had travel plan. So I got the call. I was actually in India with my little sister. So I kind of scrambled to get things together. And, and get back in time to make it for a paradise. But I was so excited to be thought of because, yeah, I didn't know if I would be getting the nod or the look at, you know, from being on the show for such a short amount of time. Yeah. You're half Indian, half white. That's your mix.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yes. Okay, that's my mix also. Oh, my gosh. That's so crazy. You don't mean a lot of like that. That mix is kind of niche. No, truly so niche. But crazy because you're so white passing.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And I was saying to Joe, I was like, it's truly you just never know what you're going to get with mixed kids. Like you just don't know what's going to happen. It's so true. And I kind of love it because growing up, people would always assume I just got engaged to an Indian, especially now I'm older. You know, my 30s, they're like, oh, you must have gotten married to a Mr. Gupta and that you've taken on their last name.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah. But I think it's a good example why, you know, you just can't judge a book by its cover. People are always surprised to see how the gene pool worked out for me. But then you see me next to my sister. People think we're twins. The only difference is she's got like your color skin and year round. Doesn't have to even see the sun. She's just got this perfect, perfect glowing like all year round tan. But she also has like the white jeans. So I don't know. I think we, I think our mom was just such a badass. She passed along all her jeans and we only got a little bit of the Indian. mom's dreams are strong she said my daughters are going to look like me i don't care how tam my
Starting point is 00:06:56 husband is exactly and if you knew my mom that's like the epitome of her personality too so it it actually fits that's hilarious how how uh i've never been to india you've never been to india but it's a place i want to go um what part were you just what part where where were you So we did the Golden Triangle. So we did Jaipur, we did the Taj Mahal and Delhi, and then into the city for a couple days. And that's kind of like what they recommend doing if you're going to be all the way over in India because it is quite far to get. And then between those three places, it's like a four-hour car ride. And there's not a lot of like public transportation.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So it really is worth seeing all those places when you're already over there. But it was amazing. It was the food was unbelievable. That's like my favorite part when I travel is trying all the. And they warned us. They're like, you're going to get deli belly. Like, you know, we booked through a travel agency that my family in India, they live there and they run a travel agency. So I'm like, okay, perfect.
Starting point is 00:08:03 They're going to take us to all the great places. And they had all these really gentrified restaurants on the list. And my sister and I are like, no, take us. on a tuck tuck to the middle of the town where everybody's getting like i want a translator and i want to get some like raw curry puffs or something and it was incredible they took us to this market and the food was it was the best food i had was just at like a random street vendor how was that your first time there it was since i was a little my dad um so their my dad's side the family's from india but when he was growing up he was actually born in kenya so even wow you guys are you guys are
Starting point is 00:08:41 legit the same person. So my Indian family, like, is from New Delhi, but then my grandparents were born in Kenya. So did they flee because of the coup? Because that's, that's like the story that I hear is my dad says his parents, there was like an oppressive group that came through India around our grandparents' time. And that's, it was like kind of unsafe for them. So they went and started a business. I guess it was a really common thing to go to Kenya from India. So. Yeah. There's like a huge, like, Sikh population in Kenya. Yeah. Which is so random, but probably because of that. Exactly. So even though, yeah, I do have Indian ties, a lot of my family did migrate from India. So I didn't really go back as a child to, like, visit family there per se. But I've been to Africa to visit my
Starting point is 00:09:29 Indian side of the family. And that's like my also favorite place on earth. Yeah, I really want to go there. I've never visited. Oh, you have to. My grandparents live there. They have my uncle there. and then they moved to England, which is where a lot of Indian family. And that's where my dad's living now in England. God, the Indians are all doing the same thing. This is weird. Yeah, they're talking to the same people. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah, it's this tight-knit community. All right, we should get back to the show. Yeah, let's go. Let's get to the show. But do you go to London, all that? Have you been to Dishoum? I love that. I love Disham.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah, I've been to London. I went to school in London for high school. So I spent a lot of time over there. I was actually born there originally. So I go back a lot. And this week, I actually have three of my friends from England that are coming to visit me in L.A. And they've never been here. So I'm going to do like the grand tour.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Oh, that's so fun. You could do a little watch party with them if they're in town. Oh, yeah, exactly. They have no idea what they're in store for. I don't think they get it over there. So there's going to be a lot of catching them up. Okay. So you, so you end up going on Paradise, where you hesitant and all about going.
Starting point is 00:10:38 where you just kind of like all in like yeah i'll take another shot at this yeah i think i was all in um obviously there are things that you the unknown can be scary and i think for me the only hesitancy was are there going to be any genuine quality men there that i could see myself actually binding romance with and if not then no i don't want to go do that that sounds like my version of hell, to be honest, like stuck with nothing around you and no way to escape and all you have to do is talk to guys you're not interested in. No, I'd go to a bar on a Friday night if I wanted to do that. So I wanted to know who's going to be there, but obviously that's like part of the lore and they keep that a surprise. And once I realized, you know, you're going to go
Starting point is 00:11:26 in blind and I just have to fully hope. And I think I did. I just went in with really high expectations and I was optimistic that there would be someone for me there. So once I got my head wrapped around that and I was kind of approaching it from that mindset, it was like, what do I have to lose? Like go have fun on the beach, make some friends, hopefully make out with some guys and find romance. Best case scenario. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I wouldn't make out with guys, but like I agree with everything else. With everything else. Were you, were there any guys like on your list. Did you have a list of guys that you were potentially interested in? Yes. I've watched the Bachelor franchise, but not all of it. So I kind of wanted to keep it that way. They had
Starting point is 00:12:14 recommended going back and watching things. But as somebody who's been on the show, I know that what you are shown isn't always what the person is like on the inside. And so I didn't want to really go in with preconceived notions and expectations of these men. Dale Moss and Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete since has a girlfriend. And yeah. So Dale was on your list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That was a long shot. I mean, I don't think anyone really expected to see him down there, but he is. He's in paradise. You walk in. Does he immediately catch the eye? Does someone else catch your eye? What is your initial reaction? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So when I came in, the way they had arranged. had arranged it was there was this Birds of Paradise Challenge where all the guys dressed up in these crazy costumes and feathers and then came out doing like mating calls and dances. So the women were all sat outside waiting for the men to come out one by one. And I actually entered with just the group of women. So at first, that's all I knew who I knew the women who were going to be there. But I didn't know what guys were there. So you kind of had like a fashion show of men. Yes. As they were coming out like one by one, that was my real time learning who was there for the first time, which was,
Starting point is 00:13:30 really exciting and a very fun way to like be brought into the whole experience um but yes so that's when the i saw dale for the first time and i was surprised i don't think i don't think when he walked out i like registered oh that's dale he was on my list of people i'd be interested in um it was just this hot body with like a red feathered dress on and i was wearing red feather so all the couples seemed to be matching that night and i was like oh okay is this like a cue that this person somebody i should be like coupling up with or like looking at um and then we did have a really good conversation like right away we hit it off immediately and we had really good chemistry so i i did notice him he was definitely like one of the first people i would say i was excited to see there okay okay i mean
Starting point is 00:14:17 it comes across that way as if you are watching it it seems like you guys do have really good chemistry it seems like you're both interested in each other um you seem to like sean but it seems like you are definitely more interested in Dahl. Well, and I mean, your first impression of Sean was him making it with April. So maybe you need a little more time to get to know him. That was like the actually, that was the only like redeeming thing of Sean that night. I thought that was hilarious that he did that. But we did have a conversation right after.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And everybody was drinking and having fun. And I told Sean this. Our first conversation, he was just kind of like tipsy and being silly. And like I don't think he remembers a lot of it. And from that conversation, yeah, I was like a little bit, you know, skeptical of him. So and on top of that, like I would say Dale is just physically my type. Like I've dated tons of different looking people. But if I had to say I have a type, it would be like tall, dark, handsome.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So he fits that bill. Sean is definitely a complete replica of my ex-boyfriend, which also scared me. And that's something I conveyed to Sean early on. And I was pretty open about that. So that was also why I think I was a little bit trepidious with the Sean encounter at first. So why choose Sean on a date over Dale? So that morning I woke up and I was really torn. I had no idea who I was going to choose because there was a roast ceremony that evening.
Starting point is 00:15:50 So it wasn't just take somebody on a first date. It was also now there's a row ceremony. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her. boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Wes West, West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And if you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot,
Starting point is 00:17:18 and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. Because in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.
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Starting point is 00:19:12 Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, yeah, let me just break this now. quick so you get in at night during a challenge where everyone's dressed like a bird and then
Starting point is 00:20:27 and being silly and goofy and like we're all lighthearted the guys and the girls were both like locked down before that in a thunderstorm so we were drinking in the hotel rooms it was just like a very lighthearted night and everybody was kind of like their alter ego so I almost came in and met everybody's crazy night out alter ego woke up the next morning and then had to decide who what's going on a date with. And then that night is a row ceremony? Yes. Okay. Yes. And when you're on a date, you're gone all day. So it's like I would literally be going into a rose ceremony, hoping that whoever I took on the date is going to give me a rose. And in my head, Sean was way more open and had a rose to give. And the way I viewed it was, Dale was much less likely to give me a rose saying that he's been with
Starting point is 00:21:17 cat for like 10 days at this point. And in my head, like, I don't think anybody who's a good person would ditch somebody for 10 days over somebody who walked in for one day. So that is kind of like the right thing for him to do. So that was the first thing that kind of made my decision to take Sean on a date. And then the second one was the two conversations I had that morning. I pulled Dale and Sean separately and talked to them for a little bit before giving out that day card. And both conversations were great. In Dale's conversation, something. that stood out to me was he had expressed his interest in going on the date with me, but encouraged me that if I don't pick him, it's not going to change us getting to know each other.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's not going to stop him from wanting to get to know me and continue, like, building something. So it kind of seemed like a no-brainer decision. I can keep getting to know someone who I'm physically attracted to, but don't know enough about his personality and stick around. to guarantee that I can get to know everybody a lot more. I mean, yeah, no-brainer. Like, yeah. And the reality is, like, the show is about finding love,
Starting point is 00:22:26 but there is a little strategy involved to get to the point of being able to fall in love. Exactly. Yeah, because to be able to have that time. And being the last one out, so I could lie and be like, I was just, I wanted to get to know Sean Moore. That was part of it, 100%. I wanted to get to know either of those guys that I took on the date. I was interested in getting to know more at that point.
Starting point is 00:22:47 but why wouldn't I pick the person who's going to give me a good shot at sticking around that night? Yeah, the last thing you want to do is go on the date with Dale. Maybe the connection is not really there. He ends up giving his rose to cat, as you probably expected he would, even if the date went great. Exactly. And then you're out of there 24 hours in without getting to now explore Sean. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Explore Sean. Do you think if you had zero interest in Sean, you would have still made that decision? No. Okay. No, because it was, like, I was very split that morning waking up, and I really did consider giving it to Dale because of, you know, what I said. Like, there's also no point in being there if you don't think that you have a connection with someone. So if I didn't see anything coming out of a relationship with Sean and that leading somewhere, then no, I definitely would have just picked Dale and been like, who cares? I don't care if I go home and don't get the rose because I don't want to be here interested in any of the other guys.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Got it. How did the day go with Sean? It was good. It was really intense, which is another reason I'm glad I picked him in retrospect. They had us explore the five senses through, like, taste, touch, sound. We had these little cards that prompted each station, and they were very intimate. Just all of them were like, you know, rub this honey here and get the ice cube in a place that you're going to get goosebumps. So I couldn't imagine, that's not what, like, I imagine for any first date, but for it to be with Sean, who I did feel really comfortable with and we did have like the friend foundation there, I was much more comfortable in that situation than had I picked Dale or anybody else for that matter, just basically sitting down and then just like making out and rubbing honey and licking chocolate off each other's body parts.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So after your date with Sean is the romantic connection growing? or are you still like, ah, I like this guy, more of a friend, want to see what happens with Dale? After the date, I was definitely felt more interested in Sean than I was at first because it was so easy and natural. And I just felt very comfortable being around him. We had so much in common. We really connected on like a deep family level and we opened up about our past and our upbringing and things we're looking for in our future and our future partners. And a lot of those things align. So that made me feel like I made the right decision because I picked somebody who at the core is looking for the same things that I essentially am over just looks, which in the
Starting point is 00:25:26 past I have gone from just the good looking guy and it lets you down because that's not what I'm looking for at the end of the day. I need like so much more than just that. Yeah. As a viewer, it seems like there is this spark and this mutual interest between you and Dale, but then moving into this latest episode, we don't really see it go any further. What happened there? So it was really, I feel like that it was just kind of, it was always going to be that way, just because the timing of when I came in, that after that rose ceremony. that was when it was announced, Jesse announced that it's no longer a dating show, it's now going to be a competition show. And the couple that wins is going to be the couple that gets through these tests and relationship challenges and basically like the best couple together at this point.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So in my head, I'm like, one, that completely gets rid of the whole like dating around part of the show, which I was deprived of. of because of the time I came in. Like, I didn't get that opportunity to do that. So you're basically, you just, you just walked onto a challenge show. Basically, and I picked my partner. And at this point, like, it would be, it's lucrative for all of us in couples to spend our time
Starting point is 00:26:53 and focus on getting to know the person we're with, especially me, because I just got there and everybody else's 10 days advantage, knowing these people. And, like, I come in, like at first, hardly any of the guys even came up and like introduce themselves to me, which I thought was like, even that was strange. And I get it. It's just like a bizarre situation because people are in couples and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And they don't want to give anybody like nerves or fear that they're interested in another person who walks in. But at the same time, it was, yeah, very like intimidating to me going into now a competition. And I feel like I don't hardly know any of these people. They're not really trying to talk to me or make a connection because they have their established connections. And yeah, I've also been told, like, it's going to be kind of taboo to, I would have continued to pursue Dale and, like, get to know him more. And I think to answer your question in short, because of the way the show turned into a competition at that point, I don't think it was ever going to progress because both Dale and I at that were kind of, everybody went to their partners. you're on unfortunately just a a different show because I would say like majority of past seasons like even at this point in the show no one's really locked lockdown there was more and even being just like the location of Mexico and on the beach it just had more of like an openness to mingle and just, like, hang out as a group, don't you think?
Starting point is 00:28:35 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:29:19 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Wes West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them,
Starting point is 00:29:43 two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs! And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo. To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us, And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It's in America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:30:38 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez and in the new season of the Overcomber podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection.
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Starting point is 00:31:55 candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and three.
Starting point is 00:32:29 and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. That's exactly how I felt. And I was really, you know, going back to I was kind of all in when I got the call to come to paradise. I was really excited at. that and to get to know everyone, some of the best, the best thing that came from my season on grants was all the women and like those relationships that I made. And that's, that's just meant so much to me and like, we'll be friends forever. So in my head, I'm like, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:33:15 meet some really incredible people that I share this cool experience with. And I did and I don't take that back. But it was a very different experience than I thought it would be like going on a show versus a dating show. And I do think. that had I come in day one or day two, like earlier days, I do think that I, like, Dale and I probably would have ended up being coupled up. I think we did have a lot more in common than him and Kat did in some way. Interesting. Do you, so when, when Jesse comes down and essentially switches the structure of the show, are you and Sean now more focused on like, All right, let's try to win, opposed to like, let's get to know each other and see if we want to date in the real world.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I think Sean and I were in a really good position because we were getting to know each other. And this was just like a way to expedite that, right? Because it was like we had to get to know each other even quicker now. And we had to do like play catch up on the time that we didn't have together that other people did. And there also was kind of like a lightness to it. Like, we didn't feel pressure at all because everybody else had 10 days to, like, know their couple. We just met each other. So we're not really expected to know each other to the same degree and level as everybody else.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But because we had so much in common and, like, our core values were, like, very similar. I think we both felt pretty good that we knew enough about each other to be able to, like, you know, make educated guesses on certain things. leading into some of the challenges where, you know, you had to know your partner. I think if you know enough about someone, you can kind of infer or like guess what their answer would be to some things. So I think we felt pretty strong to say we had really short amount of time together. And I don't think we were thinking of the money because truly neither of us thought that we were going to be the strongest couple at the end.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like that was such a, you know, one in a million. and kind of thing for it to be us. So we weren't expecting that. We just, it was fun. It made getting to know each other even more fun because it had kind of like a reason to have those conversations. And it was a super organic way of, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:41 asking how many kids do you want? That's just not something you would bring up out of the blue randomly. But when you're playing these games and you need to know certain things about someone, yeah, it just really expedited that whole honeymoon getting to know each other phase. Was as a group,
Starting point is 00:35:58 Is there like a majority of people like, oh, I think, I think Andrew and Alex are the strongest couple right now. Like, was there any couple that was kind of like fared amongst the others for the competition? Yes. Jess and Spencer were always the strongest couple, I think, for everyone. Just because they coupled up so early, they were always connected by the hip. And so I would say those two were the strongest couple. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:33 We see that Jeremy and Bailey win the challenge and the advantage is that they get to send a couple home at the rose ceremony. Were you surprised that they chose Gary and Leslie? And why do you think they made that choice? No, I wasn't surprised. So that was such a tough row ceremony. because we knew it was going home, or at least I think we all assumed it was. At that point, a lot of the Goldens who were there and who had been coupled up had been very vocal about the fact that it's platonic relationships.
Starting point is 00:37:12 They've had their great love or they like this guy as a friend, but now they're just kind of there for the experience. And they're really open about that. So I think all of the younger generation couples were thinking, based on this being paradise and looking for a connection and love, I would assume we're going to prioritize like the real couples that are trying for that and send the Golden's home. And also all of the Golden's were so, they kind of knew that they should be going home. Like, you know, they're saying like, oh, yeah, like we aren't romantic or you guys are going to have a great time,
Starting point is 00:37:48 but like we're really enjoying our time just while we're here. So I expected a Golden go to go home. I didn't know it was going to be Gary and Leslie, but after Gary's crazy bet move, he did. Why do you think he did that? I think Gary gets caught up in, like, the performance and some of the showmanship, and I think he was having fun, and he was, you know, doing a little bit of, like, a bit, and it probably wasn't even, I don't even know if it registered through his head the consequences of making that bet. and I don't know if he did the math in his head you could literally just throw away chip
Starting point is 00:38:27 you could just guess the wrong answer and still be safe so I don't know why he did it but you know if you're going to be irresponsible you're making that decision not just for you but for your couple now because that's how we're playing this game and unfortunately you made like a really risky move
Starting point is 00:38:46 and it didn't pay off and I think that's ultimately why it was Gary who got sent home that we Exactly what I said. I think that it seems like We're geniuses. I think that it seems like
Starting point is 00:39:02 Gary and Leslie as much as they were exploring a romantic connection, I think Gary's mistake definitely put them in jeopardy and then on top of that it did seem like Faith and Kim had a stronger romantic connection. So if you guys are kind of making these decisions based off that
Starting point is 00:39:20 it would make sense that they would go with Leslie and Gary. Exactly. And I mean, that was Bailey's ultimately decision to make. So I know that was probably really hard for her. And I don't think it was an easy decision. I'm not sure if Jeremy had anything to say about it or if he encouraged her one way or the other. But that was not easy to send any of the Golden's home.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I can't imagine, especially for somebody who's such a sweet. heart like baby has such a sweet innocence to her and she really does care about people so that was really hard that was a really hard road ceremony yeah with with what has been aired of the show thus far is there anything that has shocked you from what you're seeing within like the couples yeah a lot um anything stand out within the couple mainly mainly like the jeremy and Bailey star. You want to just say it because we're talking about Bailey. So that surprised me. So here's what happened. The boys had a really good, strong group and camaraderie and they were going back to their rooms and like before row ceremonies and cocktail
Starting point is 00:40:38 parties and talking. And so, you know, the Jeremy thing, I'm sure he brought up to the guys and they were all aware of it. So when I did hear about the Susie thing to the telephone, I couldn't believe that it'd gone 10 days without anybody bringing it up. I think that you're just as guilty if you know something and you stay quiet and you choose to stay quiet. Um, I think you're just as complicit and like the guilty. I think what's hard is I was surprised. I didn't realize how many times Jeremy like doubled down and said that. Like I don't want to win with Bailey. I want to call Susie back. Where's Susie? Like he was a broken record and he said it so many times now. I thought it when I heard it, I thought it was just one passing phone call to call her.
Starting point is 00:41:21 to come back, which was like not a big deal at all. Like I didn't think Bailey would even care to hear that. But now knowing how involved it is and how much he said it, I think that's probably what pushed Brian because he's hearing it and the guy's room like every night. And I'm sure Jeremy brought it up more than once, which is probably why he felt like so compelled to say something. Like what else have you been hiding in line to me? Like I felt really bad for her. And I felt bad that I wasn't there because had I been there like there was no way that would have got to day 10 without her knowing that as my girlfriend playing devil's advocate here a little bit just for phone is there any bit of grace for Jeremy talking about this amongst the guys in his room
Starting point is 00:42:10 where it's more like he's venting and not really 100% meaning it like I like the him calling um Susie that's like you know that's just like well you did that yeah that you did but is there any bit of that or is it just kind of like I think as a girl it gets complicated when everyone else knows it's not like he was in a private setting venting to a friend and like it got it got out and he was like look I was truly just burning off some steam like I think it's like you're You're miced up. You're on camera. It's getting around the beach. And for me, it'll be the last to know, like, the impact is just going to be so much more of a gut punch. I don't think that's
Starting point is 00:43:00 a good excuse because at that point, as a friend, you could just be like, hey, you're my friend, but I'm going to do the right thing and this is the right thing and you know that. I'll help you out with it. We can both do, like, whatever. But staying quiet, I just don't think's fair. And I think the other part that's hard, yeah, everybody knowing. But now he's saying this and it's like 10, 12 days late, like, however many days into it, I think as a woman, I would be feeling to have uncertainties, I think, are, it's normal. But then after a certain amount of days in, when you're being told something else and then behind your back, you're being questioned, like if you're compatible or if he likes you or if he wants whatever, I think that part would be
Starting point is 00:43:47 hard for me. Yeah. You know who I would have loved to see involved in this? Hmm, who? Zoe. Throw her back in there. Oh, yeah, Zoe. Zoe would not have let this get so far. So Zoe would have been all over it. Zoe would have been all over it. But that's like, that's what I respect about her. And like, also we're all adults. Like, we're all adults. It's just not that deep. I don't, I also don't understand when we're on a show with cameras and mics, this is all going to come out. You guys know, like, it's all. It's all. going to come out. So why wouldn't you just be honest about the things you're saying and doing and get ahead of it and own it? Like that's the to me a no-brainer and win-win for everyone involved. Yeah. Anything else that surprised you before we wrap up?
Starting point is 00:44:37 I was surprised. I had no idea about Jill like being upset the night that she left, the night I came in. Like I had no idea until she came up. up and gave me a hug goodbye saying she was like leaving that she was even thinking about going. So that was a surprise. I didn't know Kat was mad at Dale the night that we started talking. I had no idea there was that drama going on. I had no idea Jonathan was pursuing Kat so much behind closed doors. That was like so sneaky and did not know that was happening between any of them.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And what else did I know? Did any of the Parisa and Brian stuff surprise you? No. Well, yeah, and your roommates with Prisa, so it would make sense. That would, that makes sense. Yeah, I just, Brian and Prisa are both such strong, like, unique personalities. And, you know, sometimes they say opposites attract. And I think they were kind of polarizing forces, but it worked for them.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And because of that, there was just a lot of the actual. that came with the territory. And it was, I love, I love being around them and watching them. Like, I think they're hilarious. Nice. Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and taking the time. I'm sure this is the last, well, it might be the last time you're on this podcast, but we're going to see more of you the rest of the season. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. This was fun. And I can't believe how much of a weird, insanely similar background we have. I know. That was actually the coolest part of this podcast for me. Yeah, same. I can't say I've ever met someone with the same ethnic background as me. Me too. Neither. And you get it now. I feel like I'm with a kindred spirit
Starting point is 00:46:26 who like I don't even have to speak. You just understand. You understand. I get it. I get it, girl. You guys are best friends. Okay. And to all our listeners, um, especially the ones that are half Indian, half white. Uh, thank you so much. Thank you so much for tuning in the Bachelor Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. Yeah. Keep tuning in to Bachelor and Paradise every single week, and we will have new and exclusive interviews for you as well. Thanks for listening. Bye. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
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