Bachelor Happy Hour - Amy Kaplan: The Truth About Filler and Facelifts | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” Jonathon Johnson and Joan Vassos are filling in for Kathy and Susan! Our guest hosts are sitting down today with Amy Kaplan from “The Golden Bachelor.” Amy is here to fill us in on her recent facelift and everything that went into this decision. She also tells us why she’ll never touch filler ever again; filler migration is real! She also dishes on having both of her twin daughters expecting children! She’s ready for her grandma era, and two babies at once is her specialty! Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We also have a special guest this week from Mel's season of the Golden Bachelor. Amy, how are we doing? I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. Good morning. Of course. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, we're so glad to have you. And you've been kind of pretty active on social media. lately and so of your daughters. So we're just going to start off right away because the world wants to know. We want to know all about your facelift. Like what made you do it? How did you find a

doctor? Like tell us all about it because, you know, all of us women who have considered this or maybe have done it, love to hear about other people's stories. So anyway, I think I have fairly young genetics and this is kind of a long story, but I'm going to do the ADD version of it. free COVID I looked super young I had a very very bad case of COVID like 105 fever for three weeks I was not at the gym for three weeks my daughters know I was not feeling well because I am in the gym for two hours a day so anyway I had you know I used to do filler and Botox and all of that and I had filler that started migrating because filler does not go away I don't care what anybody says it started migrating I hit it with dissolver which I've done before and for some reason I I had a systemic reaction and everything started sagging. It was really scary. And my whole body started sagging. But thank God, all good now.

When he went in, he found so much filler on the right side of my face. That's where I had the injections. So this is taking a much longer time to heal. But all good so far. So what did it start from? Yeah. So all about COVID. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy? I don't really talk about it. but a lot of people are now starting to talk about their filler disasters, and they're saying, filler never really leaves your body. And I think that the side that was dissolved, it started spreading and it really hit all my lymph nodes and everything, and it became systemic.

But no, I'm doing great. So. Also, this might be a guy question, but where did the filler start from? Like, did you put it somewhere in Italy? No, it's okay. You know, so what happens is it's funny. In New York, do you live in New York right now?

I don't. I live in L.A. Oh, okay. So I live in L.A. too. Okay. But I'm in L.A. now, but I used to live in New York City. And in New York, I think people don't do as much filler and all that stuff. You know, I was doing Botox a little bit of filler. I come out to L.A. Oh, you need filler here. You needed here. You need it here. They plump you up with filler. And it does migrate. But so anyway, where was I at? That's because I know, Jonathan, you were asking me, correct? So where did it start? Like, where did the fillers start? I had gone a little bit like in my temples and lateral cheeks. And then it just started blowing up after COVID. And I tried dissolving it.

And it was a S-HIT show. Migrated down to here? Well, no. Only to side with the dissolver. And then it started affecting my whole body because it causes so much inflammation. And COVID caused a lot of inflammation. I don't really talk about this that much. though.

Yeah. Like when I talk about it, but they're like, you're fine. I mean, I'm assuming there's other women out there that have been through it. So it's probably a really good thing to talk about so they don't feel as alone. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, the interesting thing is my doctor said, and now they're saying that this, it's an enzyme. It's called hyleronidase doesn't really dissolve filler.

It just kind of moves it around, all the particles around because he said he found clumps, clumps a filler. and I have not done filler for 10 years. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's crazy. And it was worse on the side with the dissolver. Mm-hmm. It sounds like it like hardens or has like somehow embeds itself into like your fat or your muscle or something.

You know, it's funny. I've had a reaction to filler before. Filler was totally fine. I had it done in my lower lip. I always do it in my lower lip. And I had a flu. And all of a sudden my lip like exploded. Like it got really, really, really big.

and then years later had a similar situation, had a flu or something and had a temperature, and it did the exact same thing to my lip. So it felt like the inflammatory response that your body is doing to fight off whatever infection you have or virus you have, like somehow, I don't know what happens, but it does something to your filler.

It totally does. And I think it's all related to inflammation because I had autoimmune-like illnesses and nothing would ever show up. But, you know, he took chunks of it out. I'm feeling so. much better. Yeah, so you'll never do filler again, but you'll never need to because you look never. So good. So good. Okay, I want to ask you about, I love the way you recovered at a Beverly Hills

five-star hotel. Girl, that's the way to do it. Tell us how you got to that point. Like, I'm going to go to a great hotel and lay there in luxury with room service. Tell me how that like all came about. My doctor, Patrick Kay Davis, he trained under Andrew Frankl. And there's something called the Laskey Clinic, which is right across from the Peninsula Hotel. So that's one of the hotels you can choose. And so I said, yeah, I'm going to go stay there. And it was just hilarious because the peninsula has a Rolls Roy's house car. My daughters could not stop cracking up at me.

I'm getting out of the rolls. I'm all bandaged up. They put me in a wheelchair. I'm fracking up. I couldn't stop laughing, but I couldn't move my face because I was all bandaged. I caught a glimpse of myself in the elevator. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

This is hilarious. And my girl's filming it. And Reese, you know, I went back to go see him. It's so funny because he was like the bell boy there. Because I get lymphatic drainage massages there. He saw me. We were laughing. It was so funny because he couldn't even back me in.

It was like, it was just hilarious. It must be so funny to be like a normal guest at that home. hotel and have people coming in like looking like a mummy, like you could end up being in the elevator with them. Is there like a back door is another way to come in than like right through that front lobby? They took me through the back door, but the elevator, I went through the main elevator. And I don't remember anybody else in there with me, but the elevator is all mirrored. And all I remember is looking in the elevator. I'm like, oh my God. And I just wanted to crack up laughing. and my daughters are filming it, and they think it's hilarious.

Like, I'm glad they've, you know, got to kick out of it. I love how they've documented all of it. I watched all the videos. Every day I was looking forward to my update on how you're looking that day. Your recovery was really quick. You had been super open about cosmetic surgery, and some people are really private about it. They don't want people to know, although, like, if you have it on your face, people are going to know, I would think, because if your surgeon has done a really good job, they, you know, it's

noticeable. You can see it. And that's really the ultimate goal is to look different. So how how people receive that? Like have people been super supportive or do you have fans like chiming in same way to go girl or have you had any like mixed emotions about it? Well, the fans have been really supportive. I wanted, I was like just a little afraid going in because when you go in in your 40s, like I've done my boobs before and I did a tummy tuck obviously because I had twins. So it's a very different healing process than when you go in in your 60s. And I surprisingly, I did much better than I thought, although my doctor knew that I was going to do great, my internist, I did not take steroids at all. And so I blew up a lot more than most people, but then I started healing in a very rapid rate.

And I was very upfront with everything because my daughters just thought it was so much fun to document it. at my expense. I said, I was already on the Golden Bachelor. You know what? I'm just going to be myself. Put it out there. It's okay.

And I was like, I cannot believe I did this. But, you know, it's fine. I am who I am, and I'm very transparent. And it was actually a fun journey

to show other people. And it broke the taboo because a lot of doctors, they show you the before and they show you the after. I'm nowhere even near my after. I'm still, you know,

very early on, I'm in the healing process. Like I said, I have like a lot of fluid sitting in here still. But I want you to put it out there and show people what the journey was about. And actually, I see a lot of doctors started doing this now. And I said to my daughters, I'm a little pissed because they're like, Mama, that's why we're influencers because we disrupt the market. I love that. What did your doctor, like how many months, how many days, how many weeks, how many, how long?

is like the whole process? I wanted a very, very, very natural lift. I wanted something that was undetectable. I just wanted to look like I did when I first moved out to L.A. and I think he did a really good job. I don't even have

incisions. They're all in my hair. And I did not lose any hair. And I have dissolvables and I'm so itchy. I'm going crazy. But I'm going to go get my hair colored next week. And we're going to have to be very gentle. because I can't stand it anymore. But so I wanted something very natural.

I've been on a lot of consults. And I felt very, very comfortable with him because we were aligned. Our aesthetics were very, very aligned. And I said to one of my friends the other day, she was FaceTime email. I said, see, nobody can even tell I had a facelift. She said, yeah, but half of America,

I mean, your daughter's documented everything. Yeah. Do you think that there is a stigma? like I feel as a woman, they, you know, people, there are a whole group of people that say, you know, we need to grow old, you know, elegantly and we shouldn't do these things to our face. By the way, I've done a lot to my face. I am in the same camp as you. And you look great, by the way. But do you think, thank you, thank you, right back at your girl. Thank you. Do you think there is a stigma? Like, I don't talk about this with everybody. Well, here I am now. Everybody's going to hear it. But, you know, because I do feel sometimes there's a stigma. They're like, oh, why do you have to change your appearance? Well, because it makes me feel good, but like, how do you feel about it? It's not changing. See, because it's not changing your appearance. I, my face recognition works on everything on my phone.

Yeah. It's just returning back the hands of time. I wanted something supernatural that people like can't even tell, but yet all my jowls are gone and, and, you know, my eyelids are nice and cleaned up and my face doesn't frown down anymore. And so it's super, super natural. I don't care if there's a stigma on. honestly, because, you know what, I don't want to grow old gracefully.

I am going to be 64 in my head. I am not 64. I work out two hours a day. I have the vibrancy of the 30-year-olds. I feel really young. I am not a senior citizen. I find that frightening. Also, out of curiosity for the both of you, do you guys do it, like, is it purely, like,

internal? Is there, like, an external pressure to, like, do you guys just, you're like, Hey, I just want to do this for myself because I think it'll make me look and feel better than I did before. I don't think there's any internal pressure. I think it's my own self. Although my daughters did say to me, my daughters are the one that pushed me because I kept pushing it out and out. And they sat me down at the doctor's office when we finally chose the doctor. When's the next available?

I said, I'm going to do it at the end of April sometime. The next thing I know it, you know, I'm going in February. So I'd love to answer that question too, because I feel like it was a lot internal for me. Like it gave me more self-confidence when I feel like I'm putting my best self-forward. But I do have to say there was some external pressure, I feel like. And, you know, that probably came from inside of me. But I know I talked, I've talked before about feeling kind of invisible as you get older and how people don't like really notice you.

The world kind of belongs to the young and to like kind of your generation, Jonathan. And that happens in the workplace now. It happens just, well, it happens like even like you go to a restaurant and you stand there in front of a hostess stand and they, you know, kind of address everybody else around you. And you're like, hello. Like I'd like to get a table too. I just feel like you become invisible as you get older. So, you know, trying to look younger a little bit, a little bit of it for me came from like external pressure to be honest. Yeah.

I appreciate the honesty. No, I'm always super interested in that side of things. I'm like, is it fully just for like internal, which there has to be a piece of that where you follow through with it. But like to get that started probably is a little external too. It just be like, oh, wait, I see this. I want a little bit more of whatever it might be. And mine was because I'm in the gym every morning and I would look in the mirror and my body

looked one way and my face, the gravity was taking over a little. Like didn't match it. I'm like, this is not good. This is not good. When I would pass by a mirror when I was young, I was like, okay. And then I started looking in the mirror. I'm like, this is not good. This is not good.

So then you start doing this thing. You start and are like, oh, God. Yeah, you start in the mirror and you pull this back. And you're like, oh, I'll go better. I know, I totally agree. I know. Mirrors are a bitch and so is gravity. So we got to do what we got to do.

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Do you realize you're going to be 64? I'm like, no, I'm still 30, you know? And in my head, I am so young. So it's kind of, there's a disconnect because I don't feel my age at all. Like when I see other people my age, I'm like, wow, you know, I don't want to say they're old, but I mean, we are 64 and I don't feel that, though. I don't think I'll ever feel that. I think aging looks, I don't either. I think aging looks a little differently now with our generation than it did the generation before.

So I think of my mom when she was in her 60s, I'm 63. And I remember like, like they were kind of winding things down a little bit. they were getting towards the end of their careers. They were thinking about traveling or buying a house, like in Florida. I don't feel like we're doing that. I think we are like vibrant in our careers. Some people are even starting new careers, going back to school. I went back to school and got a different degree when I was 58.

I feel like we are, yeah, we're not stopping at this age. We're not our, our parents. So I do feel like we're maybe a little bit of a trailblazer like this generation. is and part of that is looking better. So that's part of that is looking the way we're feeling. So maybe right now, like for our age people, if you can afford it, you know, plastic surgery is an option just to keep us like kind of in the game. Yeah. It's a personal choice. And the acting too of it, like the, there's not as much of a, and I could be wrong here, of like a pressure to like go into this phase of life too soon. Even for like my age, I feel like 10,

15 years ago by 30 like if you didn't have kids and you weren't doing new thing like people are like what the hell are you doing like what is and life is just all kind of gotten put back and I feel like even for your guys's generation too it's not like a pressure to be like you need to retire by this age and do this and start doing this like everything feels like it's been pushed back a little bit so I don't know if that's maybe added or taken away from some of the pressure but it's probably like mentally you don't feel like you're getting older because you're not having to do the things that your parents had to do back then. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I love that you're recognizing that your generation is going through like a little bit of an update too, Jonathan. And I think I knew that because I do feel like everybody's having babies much later than they did in our generation. But like the fact that you verbalize that really like kind of brings a highlight in my

head to that. Like all of our generations maybe are pushing things a little later in life. So well, good for us, right? You know, I think we're living longer. So maybe that's just a natural progression. I do want to talk to you, though, Amy, about, like, a really exciting time in your life because you are going to be a grandma. Both your daughters are pregnant. First of all, congratulations. But thank you. I have to ask, what, like, was this, like, completely planned or is it just an amazing coincidence? This was planned. The babies are going to be at the most 10 weeks apart. And the good thing is, you know, I raise twins. So this is going to be easy for me.

I can't believe I'm going to be a grandmother, though. I mean, that's almost like, I'm so exciting. but it's frightening a grandmother. My grandmothers were old. I am not old. Yeah, that's not funny. So you're right. And you don't look old now. So right.

So what are your daughter's due dates? Are they like one soon? I feel like I feel like her, when they showed her stomach, she was looking like she was getting there. Yeah. Lexi is due June 23rd. And Allie's due September 7th. Really? The same day?

So I have two. I have a daughter. I have three grandchildren already, but I have a daughter and a daughter-in-law, and both of them are pregnant, and ones do the 22nd, ones do the 23rd. Oh, wow. So you and I are going to be, and both of mine are having little girls, so we are we going to have to keep in touch and send each other like our little baby pictures. Yeah.

I'm sure to be all over my daughter's social as well. Absolutely. What kind of grandma do you think you're going to be? Are you going to be, come in, hold the baby? Or you're going to be like, no, I like a two-year-old better? No, no, I was such a hands-on mother with twins. Everybody was like, I had twins, no baby nurse, breastfed, made homemade baby food. I mean, I'm very nurturing and I'm really good with kids.

Like, I love children. I'm extremely close with my daughters, as I'm sure you're very close. I know you're very family-oriented as well. So I'm super excited. I'm, it's, it's going to be a pleasure for me. I'm really, really excited. The thing is, though, I could already tell when they say, you know, Mama, don't, you know, if they say no about something,

I'll be like doing it how I want. You absolutely was sticky candy at 10 o'clock at night and you don't care. Yeah. Exactly. We're allowed to do that. Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. That's what grandmas are. What are you most excited to do with your grandkids?

Like, are you doing? dying to take them to Disneyland or like, God, what's your thing? Going to the beach. I think everything, I think cooking with them, art projects, going to Disney with them traveling, movies,

reading, Play-Doh, making a homemade Play-Doh. Just everything, you know, snuggling up and reading and watching movies together. I'm just so excited. Shopping, everything.

Have you bought anything yet? Have you been shopping? in for them? I did. You know, I got a couple of little outfits because I couldn't resist. So we started a little bit. Yeah. It's fun, in it. I know. I was online. I was on Etsy the other day ordering like monogram stuff because we might both mine have their little kids, their baby's names picked out. So I started monogramming everything. To mine too awesome. We think, Lexi has hers picked out. Allie is not quite sure yet, but we're leaning towards, well, not we because, you know, they're doing it.

You just ask me my, you know, opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's move on because, you know, we know you from the Golden Bachelor. So I love to know. But I remember you. I loved your entrance with your daughter. So that's like kind of unforgettable.

Thank you, Joan. Where does your love life stand today? I mean, I know you're in baby mode and fix the face mode, but I mean, you know, you're out there single woman now. You've been on national TV. I'm dating. I'm definitely dating. And there's a couple of people I'm dating now. I just hope that they don't watch this because I don't want to be called a player. And, you know, so let's see what happens. You should be a player. My son-in-law said to me the other day, he goes, my God, Amy, you're a player. I'm like, I'm really not. Good for you. How do you find dates? I know that's like the big question for everybody our age. Like, how do you find dates these days? fix fix up you can meet somebody at the gym or just you know somewhere traveling um online i do the online

thing through my daughters um i don't know it's like it's easy look it's easy to date it's i'm very picky and i want a total connection i want that true connection and i need that spark because if the spark's not there in the beginning it has to be there and i want someone fun and like very happy like myself, you know? Yeah, you don't need to settle. No, no, no, no. And I can't deal with somebody's family drama because my girls are so good. I love my son. I'm with you. Right? So you could end up with a man who doesn't have such an easy, like relationship with their kids. That's going to be difficult for me. Yeah. I'm not into the drama. Drama's for TV. That's it. And really, the season that you were on, even though you, you know, like you said, you left, I mean,

you were there a decent amount of days. I mean, you were week three. So if there was drama, you were probably kind of around for some of it. Your season did have a little drama. Mine never did. Neither one of mine had any drama. So it was like pretty easy. But since being on the show, has your perspective changed as a result of being on the show? I know mine did. And I'm just wondering how it affected you at all. I think that, you know, I was just myself on the show and I put it all out there. And I think now, even with everything in life, as far as even putting my face looked out there, it's like, I just am who I am, go have fun with it. It should be fun. The newest tracks. Let's go. New music. And the next big thing.

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Hi, ladies, I have a question for you. I'm 37 and officially done having babies. My husband was being sweet and said, you can finally get that mommy makeover you've always wanted. Referencing my tummy tuck and breast augmentation. Before kids, I always thought that's something I'd want to do. But now chasing around three toddlers, I honestly couldn't. care less about how I look most days, and I can't imagine being out of commission of that for that kind of recovery. That said, it did get me thinking, does he want me to do it? Now I'm reconsidering. I'm having a hard time figuring out if this is actually for me, if it's something from subtle and totally unintentional pressure. To be clear, he's never

made me feel bad about my body or my stretch marks at all, but now I'm second guessing what I thought I wanted. Maybe my priorities have just changed. Who knows? I'd really love your advice on this. Love you and your podcast don't. much. So my advice is she should only do it if it bothers her. Yeah. If it bothers her and she doesn't feel great about it, go for it. She might decide maybe in five years or 10 years she wants to do it. But if she's not feeling it now, concentrate on your, you know, family and your children and she'll do it when she feels like it. Yeah. I think piggybacking off of that too, um, don't get me wrong. I am a guy. Sometimes we're stupid.

And sometimes we say stuff without thinking and we don't actually like understand how in depth one of our comments might be taken. So I think also in her situation, like just ask. You're like, hey, do you want me to? Do you think I should? Like, is there an attraction thing? And if he's a dick, he's going to say yes. There's no way he can answer that truthfully. No, whatever you feel.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe he'll answer truthfully. and he was just trying to be nice to her, but I love that you address that, Jonathan, because, like, I feel like, you know, maybe she feels bad because he is maybe not attracted to her or, like, thinks that she doesn't look great and she wants to look great. But, you know, the bottom line,

when you're doing something to your body, and you know what the recovery looks like, and you know how hard this is, you need to, and especially if she's, like, really involved in her kids' lives and they're growing up and she doesn't want to take that time out. Maybe this is something that she's going to feel a lot stronger when they're in their 20s,

kind of like your daughters, you know, when everybody's, little older and you have time. And I mean, she's still young. She's only 37. How bad could she possibly look? I'm sure she's a lovely, beautiful woman. And he's just being nice to her. I had to tell me, tuck it like, I think 32, right after I had the babies. But I wanted it. See, that's the thing. My husband didn't say, oh, you need it. If anything, everyone tried to talk me out of it. I said, no, I am going in and I'm doing it. So that's the difference. You have to want it. If she doesn't want it and she's happy not having it, then that's her prerogative.

Totally agree with you. Yeah, totally agree with you. Okay. So we have another question, putting my glasses on. And it's from Carrie. She's 48 and she's from the Miami area. And she says, hi, golden gals. I'm a mom of two teenage daughters and I think they are both beautiful and perfect in every way. I've had my share of Botox and fillers, but nothing major when it comes to cosmetic procedures. My girls are growing up in a very different time than I did. And they're really into makeup and filters on social media. I worry a lot about how they see themselves. They already talk with their friends about wanting lip filler when they turn 18, etc. I remember when I was a teen, we were talking about getting a stupid tattoo one day, so maybe this is just their version of that.

But I'm curious, what do you think? Do you have any advice on how to talk to young girls about this? How do you protect them from making decisions they may not need while still supporting their autonomy over their own bodies. It feels so impossible sometimes. Any advice is so appreciated. Thank you so much. What do you think, Amy? You have two daughters. Hey, you get it. I think as a parent, you know, my daughters feel like they're perfect because I think it's how the mother instills in them the confidence. I tell my daughters, they're beautiful. They're gorgeous inside and out. So they don't really question their looks that much. You know, and my thing, I think, did more for aging and I did the tummy tuck because I carried the twins and it just wasn't what it was.

But my daughters like, you know, are their noses 100% perfect? They have a little bit of a Jewish nose, but they love their noses. I love their noses. And they feel good about it. And I think that's the bottom line. I think this whole thing with plastic surgery to start changing how you look, it's become almost like social media. It's become like these poor young girls feel like they have to fit like expectations that everyone needs to look like a certain way. But we don't. We're all unique looking and beautiful. So I think I'm saying to her, just keep instilling to your daughters that they're beautiful. And if they want to do a little lip filler, I know my daughters wanted to do it a little bit. They did it. Then remember you said about your inflammation, they had that

when they would get sick. So they stopped with that. And Botox, they're obviously not doing anything as, you know, while they're pregnant. So. And I, and I think it comes from within. I think it's how your mother, you know, she should just tell her daughters they're beautiful and not feel that social pressure. And things, it's interesting because there was something I saw on Instagram. Somebody was talking about it, some beauty editor was saying that there is a trend now, less filler, less of like changing to try to look like that Barbie mold

and just to embrace your uniqueness. And I'm so glad we're getting more towards that, you know, because we're not perfect. Nobody's perfect. It's a bad, and it's interesting. You can see a girl who maybe is not as pretty, but she looks gorgeous because she exudes that inner confidence. And then there might be somebody who aesthetically is gorgeous, but she just doesn't exude

that same confidence. I think a lot of it comes from within yourself. Yeah. I think unfortunately two people are a product of their environment too. Like, unfortunately, like with like a Miami area. and then you have like a Beverly Hills area, it's almost inevitable that you're going to compare in those ways because that's the environment.

And again, yes, being a product of your environment is also the household you're raised in. Like, yes, like giving into that natural beauty and telling your kids they're beautiful and awesome is great and it can take them so far. But then there are those outside pressures of like when they're at school and they're away from you. Are they being judged in a certain ways?

There's social media that like we have access to so much now that like it is hard to do that. And I think just having like open communication probably. And again, I'm not a parent. I'm just somebody who thinks a lot on mental health. I think just making that an open road of communication for your kids to discuss with you is probably. Yeah, very important.

Another is a great way to do it. Yeah. I kind of feel like honestly, I may be opposed to the things that you guys are saying, I think all that like having like an inner self-confidence and feeling good about yourself is great. But I always found with my kids like, everything that was taboo or not allowed or forbidden or discouraged, they wanted to do more. So I kind of would say, yeah, you know, when you're 18, it's your body, you can make your own

decisions and give it a try. You might love it. You might hate it. But to make it like, you know, maybe shameful or you shouldn't do that, you obviously don't feel good enough about yourself. That's why you're doing it. Like I always say give it a try. If it's, you know, the things that bothers them. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like it's not permanent. And maybe, you know, maybe they will feel better about themselves. Maybe that will give them the inner confidence that, you know, they need to succeed in something else. So I kind of feel like, you know, let them try things out.

I feel like a tattoo would have been way worse than filler and Botox. Yep. Yeah. Jonathan is beautiful in these tattoos. I am covered in tattoos. She looks great. So I do feel like the, like, the forbidden fruit is the one that they're going to want the most. So I kind of like go for it.

If you feel better, give it a try. Yeah. Give it a try. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. You don't hurt anybody else. It's all about being happy.

Yeah. It's a form of self-expression. And the closest to cosmetic changes I have is tattoos, I don't get them because other people think they're cool or this or that. It's like it. Because you like that it's art. I love them. It's all right.

Yeah. My daughters have really cute ones. Just like on the wrist. Mm-hmm. And then Lexi has Ali's name. And Allie has Lexi's name. we were at an event and I was sitting down and I almost was going to get theirs on my inner finger. And then I said, wait a minute.

I'm too scared because the tattoo artist, it was a celebrity tattoo artist. He said it hurt too much there. I said, you know what? I think we'll skip it. Yeah, I think there's places that are more like tender. That sounds like it would hurt like crap. Luckily you didn't name like Genevieve or something so you would have to get a long name. Allie and Lexi, at least it would have been short names.

Easy, right? Right, right. Well, those are the calls that we have for the week. And also to anybody listening at home, you guys can submit your burning questions to us by going to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. We come back each week and answer them. Well, we don't.

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