Bachelor Happy Hour - Arie & Lauren Luyendyk, Plus: Co-Host Joe Amabile

Episode Date: December 4, 2019

Lauren and Arie talk about their life as a family of three with baby Alessi. Plus, Rachel recalls the first time she heard about Lauren, right after Arie wrapped up filming his season of “The Bachelor.”Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I feel like you're filling yourself. I feel like it's like 1999. What's up, what's up? Does everyone do it? No, I'm doing good. How are you? Good, good. From now on, you have to come on.

Anytime you come on, you have to come on. you have to say, what's up, what's up? That's my new thing. How we feel it tonight? What's up, Phoenix. And speaking of Phoenix, the reason why he's saying that, you can hear the laughter in the background because our guest, we're very excited to have them today.

I've met one of them. This is my first time talking to the other. And Joe, you haven't met our guest either, have you? No, I haven't met too many people in The Bachelor World, probably because I was only on the show for a day. So, you know, I think that's what it is. Would you like to introduce our guest to our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners? I would love to.

Everyone welcome Ari and Lauren. What's up, guys. What's up, what up, what up? I like that. That was good, Ari. Just kind of one up, yeah. We're so excited to have you guys on the podcast today. We have a lot of questions.

We need to catch up with you guys. So we're just going to get right into it. Listen, when we were prepping to have you guys on the podcast, podcast, it really dawned on us that you guys have gone from fiancé to husband to wife to parents all in one year. That's a lot. Yeah, we have a lot. My first question, are you okay?

Yeah, we're doing. Yeah, we're living our best life. It's awesome. You guys look so happy. I mean, what have you learned throughout this year because you've had so many milestones come about? Like, what's been the biggest change and challenge for you guys? Oh, my gosh.

Parenting is hard. Parenting is hard. People make it look so much easier than it is. You guys make it look easy. Yeah. I mean, seriously. I'm sure we do, but it is not easy. The only time we, you know, we get to film Alessie and the happy parts of parenting, you know, is when we can actually have a phone in her hand.

The other time, you know, our phone's on the table or whatever because we're cleaning up poop or trying to rock a screaming baby. dropper. Do you guys sleep like ever? Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah? That's like the one thing that I will say is that Alessi is like a great sleeper. She sleeps like 12 hours a night.

Oh my God. Yeah, we're really lucky when it comes up. Jeez, that sounds like a dream. We don't have kids, but I know that a sleeping baby is like besides a healthy baby. A sleeping baby is like right there at the top of the list. Yeah, that's what you know. Oh, yeah. Sleep is a necessity. Those first two weeks when you're sleep deprived, though, it's hard.

I mean, it's hard not to be grumpy. Yeah, we had a hard time the first week. Yeah, we really did, man. What was that feeling like the first time you held your baby? You know, because everyone says that's like, you know, it's like the first time you ever felt that kind of love, I guess. It wasn't really like that for me. Like, obviously, I loved her before I even saw her. But it was kind of bizarre to me because I didn't.

know her yet. Yeah, I think it was more or less, that was how it felt for me, because I think for a guy, you know, you obviously aren't going through the pregnancy and you don't really feel like as attached as you do when you see her for the first time. And I think for Lauren, you know, she'd been carrying her for so long. It just was a different, it was a different feeling. Yeah, I think I kind of made up in my mind what I thought she was going to look like and what she was going to act like. And then when I first met her, it didn't really feel like those things matched up. So I had to kind of get to know her after that. Well, Lauren, you were probably exhausted. You were like, get this away for me. What is this? I need a moment. Actually, we had a great time.

We had a great time in the hospital. Lauren was, we had a blast. I mean, I mean, obviously, it's different for me than for her. I saw that. It's true. But, you know, we were kind of rolling around in wheelchairs and just like having a blast and I was afraid they were going to kick me out of the hospital because I wasn't far enough along so I started pushing Ari around in a wheelchair to put myself into labor again oh my gosh how fun Ari did you did you watch the baby like come out of the yes private park it's okay Joe going into the whole experience I was like oh no heck no I'm going to stay like right right by your face I'm just like not going to watch but you know it's actually really fascinating and

something that I highly recommend to any like new parents like new dads because it's just it's just such a miracle and it's just so cool to witness what Lauren can actually do with her body and yeah it was it was it was it was gnarly it was so cool I okay I have to ask because and I wish you could see my face right now like I hear the joy Ari in your voice But describing it, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I cannot believe it one day. This is what I'm going to have to do. From the guy's perspective, I'm like, that sounds awesome. It sounds like, he's like, it's cool.

Eating pretzels. I just learned. And Lauren, tell me if you did this. I just learned that you can participate in the delivery of your baby and you can, or something like you can have a mirror down there so you can watch the whole thing. Did you do that? No, I did not want to see it. I didn't let our friend take pictures down there.

I don't want to see that like that at all ever. Yeah, I'm with you, girl. I mean, I was mortified when I heard that. I'm just like, yeah. Okay, so I feel like we, the reason Joe and I keep poking at y'all about the pregnancy and the baby, obviously because we're excited for you guys as parents, but also before we started talking to you, I was saying how I don't feel well. And I, I am a person who thinks they're pregnant every single month.

But this time, I really think that I might be. I was saying I don't feel well. And Joe said I'm making him nervous to where he thinks he's pregnant now. So that's why he's asking you so many questions too. I mean, you definitely do it in the correct order then. I mean, at least you got married first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So outside of your new parents, but in addition to everything else that happened between fiancé, husband, wife, parents, Lauren, you also moved to Arizona. So tell us how life is in Arizona for you guys? Honestly, life in Arizona right now is blur, probably the last year, and it was really my

first year here. But we love it here. It's beautiful. The weather's finally getting a little bit more bearable so we can go outside. But the summer was rough here with the new baby. I didn't really get to go outside too much. You probably don't want to go outside. I mean, it feels like you're living on the sun for a few months.

Is it true that you can crack an egg on the ground in the summer? summer and it cooks. Yeah. Have you ever tried it? It's crazy. But I mean, the thing is, yeah, like Lauren said, I think last year we went to 12 different countries. Oh, wow.

We traveled a ton and we traveled a lot during even the winter most when it was nice in Arizona. So I think this is kind of her first, could be her first winter, which is kind of why everyone moves to Arizona. But I think she likes it. She's used to moving around a lot, so she's pretty adaptable to any place, I feel like. Yeah, I was living in jazz before, and I was kind of ready to move somewhere else. I like doing that kind of thing.

12 different countries, which was your favorite? You got to have a favorite, and I want to hear the worst. Talk shit. We always say Iceland. We always say Iceland. It's a favorite. It was the first place we went to as a couple, like right after the show. So it kind of holds a special place in our heart, but it was such a unique area.

I mean, it felt like we were on the moon. It was just really pretty there. and different, so different than any other place I've ever been to. Could you see the Northern Lights? We just miss that kind of time. Oh, I got a good story. Lauren's like, oh, I'd love to go see the Northern Lights.

So we got in our rent-a-car in the middle of the night, and we drove, like, far away from the town there. It was like a two-hour drive to the middle of nowhere. And then... Danes was too scared to get out of the car. It was too dark. I was like, I can't get out of too scary. I was like, really?

So we turned around and went back. It saw nothing. So you drove to the middle of nowhere in darkness. And you don't even know if you were still in Iceland. You don't even know. She's like, I'm so scared that something's going to come out and get us. I'm like, I don't think there's really any predators around here. No, Iceland's pretty safe.

No, that sounds like the beginning of a horror movie. I'm with you, Lauren. Like, you needed to stay in the car and go back home. Okay, least favor country. Oh, man. Aw, I don't want to down on anyone's country. It's all right. She's like, Sweden.

Is that where you're, Sweden. What's yours? You don't like Sweden? No, is it that where you, wait, is that where you're from? Because otherwise that joke just went flat. Holland. Holland. I was like, otherwise that joke went so flat.

I thought she was going to say that was the worst country. My bad. Let's take that out. No, you're good. You're good. Well, yeah, China. I heard China's a little rough. but you know what?

Nobody from China's listening. Well, maybe they are. Okay, I want to talk to you guys about this because, Lauren, we've never spoken. But I have spoken about you actually with Ari before I knew it was you. Okay, Ari, you want to take us back in time a bit? Because the first time I met Ari, it was during, we were on the road to winter games. Okay, and we had a blast. Yeah, it was a good day.

Was it not? We had so much fun. So we're in the middle of nowhere. Could have been Iceland from the way it was looking. And we had nothing to do but eats me, Ari and Jojo, eat and drink. And so we're having such a good time. And so Ari just really started opening up to us and talking to us. And Jojo and I are listening.

And so this is also, Ari's season was the first time I got to watch a season and had no... Yeah, she didn't want to be spoiled. She's like, don't tell me names. I don't want to know names. Yes. So it was one and two. That's how we were referring to things. And I'm just listening to him talk about the season.

And I, and Joach and I look at each other, and we were like, you know, we really think you like that number two. That number two? I think that's who you need to be with. And at the time, we didn't know it was you. So it's funny that we knew that and we were holding on to that secret. And then come to find out, you guys are, it is number two. Number two was the one. And now you guys are happy.

you know, married, parents. I'm dating number three, so. And you're dating number three. Don't make a weird joke. It's all right. You know, it's the Bachelor World. It's what we sign up for. Yeah, I remember, like, thinking about Winter Games, and I was like, oh, you know, if I go to

Winter Games, I can probably see Lawrence producer and then maybe, like, see how she's doing. You know, I was like, that was my whole motivation for actually going to Winter Games. Really? Well, you didn't share that piece of information. with us, all right? We didn't know that. I'm sitting here thinking Jojo and I should take credit for like really saying, you know, you got to follow your heart and go with what you feel. No, honestly, it was a really good, it was really good for me to go there and to talk to you guys because it's really

hard if you, if you're not a lead to really understand everything, you know, from the beginning to the end and sort of what you go through. So like chatting with you girls was really helpful and it actually gave me a lot of clarity. And yeah, I was definitely lost at that point and really questioning how the show ended. And I'm really happy how it turned out now, obviously. But at the time, it was just you felt like this enormity of pressure. And then you also just want to make people happy in a way. Like, that sounds kind of crazy.

But at the end of the day, it's your life. So it was cool to talk to you and to kind of get your guys' opinions. And then you guys were like, no, we were really solid with our. choice. And I was like, yeah. We did say that. We did. You were like, do you feel like this? And we were like, now you shouldn't feel like that, Ari. Let's talk about. You know, like who you sent home. And like when you're up late at night and you're thinking about like the whole scenario, like, do you ever feel like you question your decision? And your girls were like both like, no, we're getting. So we just like, I would have ended up with Robbie. Yeah, yeah. She was not happy about.

But you know what was great is that because we didn't have a vested interest in it, we really could give you, listen to what you were saying, and just give you our opinion without knowing anything. And so from what we were hearing, it was like, hey, you really got to pursue this other relationship. So I'm happy that we had that moment. I'm happy that it all worked out for everybody at the end of the day. Yeah, for sure. So the wedding, your wedding looked beautiful, by the way.

Okay, you guys were smart because you did it in the wintertime in Hawaii where we went to Mexico and August. So we were dying and so we're all of our guests. So you guys were smart in doing it in the wintertime in a hot place. But how soon after the finale, because things, like we said, everything has moved really fast for you guys. How soon after the finale did you start the wedding planning process? What do you think? I can restart that. pretty soon actually we actually wanted to get married sooner than than when we did our initial plan was october

yeah so we were so funny like we when we were together during happy couple after the show we just kind of wanted to fast forward everything we wanted to get married we want to have babies we wanted to do it all like right away and i don't know why we felt that need to like rush it but I think we just were like so looking forward to our future that we just wanted that future to be like then if that makes any sense. Yeah, when you know, you know, why wait? Yeah.

So we started planning pretty quick. I would say like, I don't know. It was right after. Honestly, like two months, I think. Yeah. That's awesome, though. That's encouraging. I like to hear that.

You guys, how did it feel to take your baby back to your wedding venue? Oh, that was so cool. It was really cool. to take her to our wedding venue, but it's obviously very different traveling with an infant. Yeah, I think we had this big expectation to go back to Maui and just to kind of relive that whole week and kind of do the things that we did. But then it's just, you know, it's a lot harder traveling with a four-month-old. So we still went to the venue and checked it out. And I thought

that was pretty cool. It was just as pretty as I remember it. And it was cool to show Lessee the place. this fun. I have a question. Why did you guys do a joint bachelor bachelor at party coming from, you know, you know, when, you know, a guy gets married, you always, I always like wanted a big bachelor party, you know, in Vegas and, you know, the whole thing. But I was curious. I think we just thought it would be fun because as corny as the sounds we were each other's best friends. So, that's really corny. That's how it should be. No, that is corny, but I understand. I definitely I understand it, because that's how I feel with Kendall. We really are our best friends.

But every time I say it, I'm like, God, am I so fucking corny? I know. I hate that. But no, it is. I get that. Or never had been to Vegas sort of in her adult life. Oh, really? And I didn't want to, like, go there on a bachelor party and however not experience it.

I don't know. Well, I think we both wanted our bachelor and bachelorette parties in the same place anyways. Yeah, exactly. Fun. Are there any, like, crazy stories to come out from that for, You guys do it together. I don't know if we can share. Oh, yes.

Oh, God, no. Come on. Wait, who did it, was it, was it because of Lorne or because of Ari? Or your guest. I love pranking Ari and I did a really good prank on him. Strippers! Strippers! Escort, suckers!

No, I'm joking. I'm joking. Oh, it sounds like y'all had a good time. It sounds like it was worth it to have a joint bachelor and bachelor at party. Okay, also in Vegas, you guys had a second. wedding? Talk to us about that. Where did that come from? You guys are crazy. So we always talked about just eloping because wedding planning got kind of stressful, to be honest. I mean, you know, wedding planning is a lot. Yeah, we're like, why don't we just quit this and go a lope in Vegas?

And we thought seriously about it while we were planning our Hawaii wedding. And then Ari had to go back there for a P.F. Chang's event. And I'm like, well, your parents are coming with us, our daughter's with us, we might as well just do our second wedding. It would be fun. So that's what we did. That's awesome. Yeah, so it was so random because we did this appearance and Montel Jordan was there. What?

This is how we do. Yeah, I know, right? And he's like the coolest guy. Yeah. And so he's like, we're just joking about like having to leave this event because we have to go hurry up and get married because we've got to put the baby down by 630. this is kind of what you do as parents and he's like

well you know he's like I'm an ordained minister so I'll marry you guys and I was like no way and he's like yeah I'll go with you so him and his wife Kristen jumped in the car

and then they came with us to the Little Whitechapel just and we didn't even really plan it like we called Little White Chapel like that morning so it was all sort of spur of the moment really cool

wait so Montel Jordan married the best. Why did we not know this? This should be awesome. That's so cool. I was really disappointed though because his whole, you know, he gave a really eloquent, like really great speech. But then he never really incorporated, okay, guys, and now this is how we do it. I really wanted him to say that. I was waiting for it the whole time. Me too. I was like hanging on a cliff. Like, all right, is he going to say it now? He put that, he's a pastor now. Or he's an ordain minister. I'm going to get Keith's right. It wasn't the time. That is I'm slightly jealous. Okay, I'm like, Brian, we're going to go to

Vegas and go find Montel Jordan. I have Montel's number. You can just stop. Are you killing me? Okay, we'll talk off the air. Everybody waits. Everybody just wait a second. She's all throwing off the Montel Jordan. They really just threw up. He's really tall too, right? Yeah, he's six eight. Oh, he's six, eight. He's six eight. He stood. Like, keep going, Ari. Ari, keep going. No, no, no, I can't wrap.

Wait, how does it start off? It's Friday night. And that, come on. Wait, no, that's an in sync song. It's Friday night. No, the party's here on the west side. Oh, yeah. So I reach from my 40.

Anna, give it up. Designated driver. Got the keys to my truck. Come on, Lauren. I don't know it. It feels so good in my hood. Something because I made it. I'm having way too much fun.

I'm so glad that you broke. Did y'all put on Instagram or any type of social media that Montel Jordan married you? Because I feel like I miss that. I know. Everyone missed that. They're like, who's that tall, really good-looking black guy marrying those two? Those two really white people. Was he dressed like he was in?

And Elvis is there. And Elvis is in the background. Oh, that's right. We got there and I was like, hey, L of us, you mind sitting this one out? And he's like, yeah, I'm good. Is it the same chapel? Is that the same chapel that's in The Hangover? I don't know.

The movie? Yeah. Is it? Okay, I thought so. I think it is like the famous one, the little one. And that's where, like, Britney Spears got married that one time. Did the Badger film there? Did y'all know the Bachelor film there?

You guys, it's a full circle moment. They said that they did film there. Well, you guys did it right. seems like. No, I wanted to elope as well. And I told my mother-in-law that Brian and I wanted to elope. And she said, oh my gosh, that sounds lovely. She didn't know what it meant. And then when she found out what it meant, she got upset. So he ended up having it. Kendall wants to get married in every country, she told me. Like, do like a little tour and we get married in every country the traditional way. Really? Can you want to do that? Yeah, we're probably not going to, but

But I actually think it's a cool idea. It is kind of cool. Yeah, to actually go, like, to do the tradition of wherever, you know, is real. So I actually heard a rumor or read a rumor that y'all have another baby on the way. I don't know where that came from. So you've heard it too. People are asking me. I'm like, what, do I look fat or something?

No, I don't think. I honestly, if you want, because of we talked about this on the podcast, everything you guys have been doing is accelerated, so it would only fall in line that baby number two is on the way. That is true, but no. Definitely not putting that off for a little while. Yeah, I think after having one baby, you're like, okay, let's slow it down a little bit. No, I mean, I think that's fair that you guys are taking your time when it comes to that. I never understand how people can do it like twins, Brian wants twins or, you know, 11 months apart. I just, it's wild to me, but, you know, more power to them. How many kids do you want to have?

Do you have a number? We started at 1 in 4. Yeah. Oh, yeah? Me too. And now I'm okay with one. We'll probably have another one. Maybe two.

We'll have another one in a couple of years. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's kind of. But I don't know. If we get a wild hair, maybe three, but I don't know. How did y'all come up with a baby's name? Alesi. Pretty name.

Well, at first we thought it was a boy. And so we obsessed over finding a boy's name for a month and a half. finally decided. And then the day that we decided on the name, we found out that it was actually a girl. What was the boy's name? What was the boy's name? We're saving it. Oh, really? Okay, that's fair. That's fair. I thought maybe it was like a less off. So I looked up like every girl's name online and I was reading them to Ari for like two days straight. And finally I came across Alessia. I was like, what do you think of that one? And he's like, what if we dropped the A? And then we both just thought that it sounded pretty. So that's what we did.

it is a really really pretty name it is um yeah I'm actually jealous I kind of want that name I don't think that they would mind if you named your baby Alessie yeah I think that's when it might get a little weird I think for a boy it'd be funny if we named him Harrison but

Lauren was on board of that well you know Harrison has a first name you know that's what no I I think that's great we actually had Carly and Jade on the podcast and Carly, we suggested the name Harrison for her. So, guys. I like Harrison as a first thing.

And he married you. Harrison, get over here. It makes sense. Harrison, shut up. But you can't let the kids call him Harry. Why, Harry? Well, Harry's a popular name. Harry Styles.

Yeah, I don't know if I can't see. I don't know. Yeah, Harry Styles is like the most popular guy ever. But you have to think about what the kids are going to say, right? Like when you name your child, you have to think what are the kids going to call him at school? What are they going to tease him about? Harry's Harry.

Exactly. that'll send a kid crying home. That'll send a kid crying home. I'm telling you. Do you think, I think about this, I don't have children, but when I do, I always think about when they get older and they're old enough to start Googling stuff and figuring out who their parents are, I'm worried personally about them seeing me on the show. Do you guys think about that?

I haven't really thought about that too much yet. Yeah, me neither. I mean, it's an ABC show. Obviously, it'll be there. Yeah. I don't want my children to look at me on TV or YouTube or wherever it's going to be and me saying, get the fuck out. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, I mean, you should have thought about that.

Unfortunately, it's too late. Well, you know what? They shouldn't have brought an ex-girlfriend. Don't bring a ratchet ex-girlfriend up to the show. Anyways, we're digressing. No, but I do think about that. Would you let her be on the show? Oof, that's a hard one. Right?

Honestly, I kind of think we're both in the same boat on this one, and we want her to do whatever she feels passionate about doing. But it would be hard for us to let her go through that because I think it was a little traumatizing for us. Yeah, I'm so traumatized for sure. Me too. No, I get that. I get it. But you're a success story, so, you know. Yeah. Things happen. It's all a part of your journey.

Being a success story, Ari, do you have any advice for Peter? And then Warren, his winner. And then, them is a couple. No, I do not have any advice for him? I think the only advice we can really offer is just tell him that he needs to follow his heart and not listen to other people because he knows himself best. That's good advice. Are y'all going to watch it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. Brian, no, Brian's a big fan of the show, too. So he's, he's all in. Do you guys get anxiety when you watch it? Because I do. And I was, I mean, not when I watch it anymore, but. No, we're far enough removed from it now that we don't really get anxiety. Joe, does your anxiety extend beyond episode two? Or is it just for the first time? It's funny because I was, I never really, I didn't really watch the show, but I watched because I was going through the process, I started watching our. season and I was just like freaking out every time I watched I'm like I can't do any of this but yeah I mean I still get anxiety when I watched that first night I think because it just really went

bad for me well it but in the best way in the best way so they couldn't send me home that's true that's true Lori do you still Lori Lori oh is that what people call y'all I guess it just just rolled off my time it just it just rolled off um Lauren do you do you still talk to any of the girls from your season? Are you close from them? I do, yeah. With them, I mean. Who are you close with?

I talked to Jackie, Jenna, Mikkel, Marique. Those are the ones I've talked to most recently. Lauren, you name those people and I have no idea who they are. Joe are the worst. Yeah, I'm friends with the girls that didn't end up at the end, mostly. But you know what? That's honestly, I get that. That's fair.

and I'm having that conversation about how, or somebody else, I don't know, how the people who go, sometimes the people who go home the first, like sooner, are the cooler ones versus the ones who stay longer. That's right. Yeah, like, maybe like they're not, they're not, like, as good TV, but they're really good friends. You know, I don't know. That was kind of my experience, too, so I understand that. Yeah.

Oh, and CNN, too. I love her. Oh, yeah, Cian. Wasn't she at your Bachelorette party? Yeah. I'm going to get the details from her. I'm going to get the crazy. I'm going to ask her to tell me what.

happen crazy. And we're going to talk about it next week on the podcast. All right, you guys, anything else exciting happening? I mean, I thought you were going to do a baby announcement. So since you aren't, or you're keeping that to yourself about Little Harrison, what's next to you guys? Little Harry? Well, we're just living our normal life over here. We're doing, we're building a house. We're starting to build houses and flip houses together. working on a couple other projects that'll come out next year anything else exciting happening in

what's happening in our lives would you guys do a show would you guys do a house flipping show I mean that seems to be popular and you guys are both interested in that yeah I think we're open to that yeah okay you heard it here first guys yeah we're just

I don't know we're just like we have so many things going on like random things but yeah I got my broker's license so I'll probably be opening a brokerage I do real estate here in Arizona Lauren's starting a clothing line that she's been working on

yeah and then what else just raising our little daughter are you still racing you know I did I only did one race this year and I just kind of backed it down because I knew it'd be tough to travel with Lessee

to all the races but I'll probably I do more next year. It's not really my main focus anymore. I mean, I would say real estate's my main focus. But if someone offers me a ride, then I always jump in the car just because it's fun. Does that worry you, Lauren, that he's racing and now you have the baby? Because it would freak me out.

But he only race once. Not really. I don't know why. I've actually been in the truck with him before. And it's just like a big steel cage. So I think he's pretty protected in there. Yeah. She's like, yeah.

She's like, he's good. He doesn't do it that often, so I don't have to worry about it too much. Well, that's good. Lauren, is your clothing line going to be for adults or for children? It will be for adults initially. Oh, initially. What kind of clothes? Is it like sportswear or dresses or?

It's more like lifestyle dresses and like fun tops and skirts and stuff like that. Oh, that's awesome. Okay, you'll have to send it to me so I can Instagram it. Of course. Wait, I have a question. Can you explain to me your? experience on Long Island Medium? That was super interesting.

I actually, we were asked if we were interested in doing it and I immediately said yes and Ari immediately said no. So we obviously went. I'm a huge skeptic. Yeah, so I did a medium show. I did Tyler. You did? Tyler Henry.

Yeah, they never. Oh, you did? Yeah, they just never got aired. But yeah, because I, I'm a skeptic. Like, listen, if you, I think if you could talk to the dead, um, I just think you can't. I just don't think it's possible. So you can convince you?

No, no. Did this one? How did it go? Like, what did she say? Are you allowed to tell? Yeah. Yeah, so they aired it. What, a week ago?

Last week. Yeah, we haven't seen yet, but there were just so many details that she knew about me that really just kind of, I don't know, made me believe right away. Oh. Yeah, she was really focused on convincing Ari, I think. Yeah, I feel bad because we went there because Lauren was really wanted to get a reading. And then she was just like her energy was apparently the people in the room talking to her were all focused on me, except for your grandfather too. Yeah, she said he was shy. But there was things that she said, you know, she'd be like, in your desk drawer on the right hand side, you have a tray full of coins from other countries that you don't plan on spending it, but you just have it there to have it.

there. I'm like, how would she know that? Okay. Really? See. Does anybody else know that? No, like, you can't Google that. Lauren didn't even know that. But if you look at my desk drawer, boom, it's right there. I would have had to walk out the room. The one thing that really freaked me out. And she's like, is your daughter's room colder than every other room in your house? And I was like, yes. She's like, that's because your grandfather's spirits are in there watching over her.

Not the children. I would have. See, I don't think I could handle that. I mean, I'm, I think my curiosity. would get the best of me, and I'd want to do it. But if she said something that was like the coins or the coldness of the room, I mean, do you turn up the heat now in a lessee's room? I mean, what's happening there? It's just always cold in there. I don't know why.

You got to turn up the heat, so push him out. I can't. Push him out. Come back later. I can't, I can't handle that. Or I would say, if she was saying someone was talking to someone, I would be like, can you ask them to speak up so maybe I could hear? I just, but Joe, you've done it.

How was it for you? It was difficult for me But I'm a huge skeptic So I feel like anything that you could find about me You just find that on the internet And then figure it out Did he tell you anything deep Like what she told Ari?

No Like if she would have said like you have purple socks I don't have purple socks I don't know why I'm using that as an example But if like she's like you have purple socks And your middle drawer and I went in there And I had like purple socks I'd be like I believe I'm a believer

but that didn't happen and I don't have purple socks I have like white and gray socks I don't know where this is going just no one listened to me anymore listen I mean I think well let me ask you guys this after both having oh I already know how Joe feels but after having this

experience would you suggest other people do it I would I mean I got a lot out of it I think that my grandfather's relationship was something that was really important to me growing up. He was a huge role model and he's sort of what led me into my racing career. My dad was always sort of tentative when it came to that, but he was always supported me and I felt like when he passed away, there was a lot that I wanted to tell him that I didn't get to

tell him. And I feel like when I was racing, I was always trying to sort of prove my worth to him because he was that kind of figure in my life. So it was really cool to listen to what she had to say and that he was there, you know, in all the moments of my life, like on our wedding day, I was wearing his watch and she said that he was there. He was proud of me. And so there's just a lot of things I really took from that conversation that was really cool for me. That's really special that you had that. I would have lost it. That's insane. Yeah. Like, that would have, that would have really made me emotional. But I'm really happy that you got that experience. I'm going to have to see if I can apply to the show, to be on the show at this point. Oh, you need to. You need to. It's

crazy. It is pretty cool. Okay, you guys, it's been so great talking to you, but we can't let you go without playing a little game with you. We're going to play a game called Guess Who. It's the Mommy and Daddy Edition, obviously. Mom First Daddy. Oh, Mom versus Daddy Edition.

And so the way this is going to work is we're going to say a statement or a question, and then you have to say who is more likely to do it, Mommy or Daddy. Okay. Wait, is that what is she going to call you? Is it going to be Daddy, Dad, Papa, Pop. Ari? mom, mama, mommy. No, no.

Mom, mama, mommy. Whatever she can say, the easiest. Okay. First question. Who had a feeling Lauren was pregnant first? Mommy or daddy? Well, daddy. Definitely me.

Really? I was like, you were creating meatballs at 11 a.m. This is not normal. Yeah, she was in denial. Oh my gosh. Meatballs at 11 a.m.? Come on, Lauren. You knew.

I just didn't think I could possibly be pregnant It's just a weird thought She was like crushing red meat for like four days You were like let's have steak I'm like we had it last night What's wrong with me wake up? Let's have meatballs Okay Okay who was more nervous about the labor

Mommy or daddy My mommy I mean wouldn't you be Yeah I mean it makes sense It makes sense the person's coming out of her not you So for sure Who does Alessi resemble more? Mommy or daddy?

Everyone says me. Everyone says Ari, but I think she looks like me. Did you put up a baby picture at one point? Yeah, so I would have said Ari, and then you put up a baby picture, and I was like, okay, no, Lauren. Yeah, she looks a lot like my baby pictures, but she definitely has Ari's eyes and her color. Then that's why they say, Ari. I feel like if you can tell from someone's eyes. Yeah, that's who they look like.

Yeah. Okay. Who changes more diapers, mommy or daddy? I'm going to say 50-50. Yeah, that's pretty even. Oh, that's so good, you guys. How is that, by the way? Changing the diaper?

Yeah. You've never done it? I try to act like it's a pit stop. I try to tie myself to see how fast I'm going to do it. I mean, Ari, did you ever change a diaper? If you guys change a diaper before your baby? Actually, the first diaper change was Sean's Samuel, Sean's baby. Okay.

Who takes more photos of Alessie? Oh, gosh. Sorry. Definitely me. She's going to be a daddy's girl for sure. We all are, I feel like. Who would install a tracking device on Alessi? Mommy.

Whoa, Mama bear. honestly Lauren's worried about everything I have to let that's my job that's true that has your job do you have a tracking advice on Ari she better not end up on the bachelor track her butt right back home who will spoil a lessee more

I feel like we both well yeah I don't know we don't know who's going to be the discipline to give the discipline one because that's tough yeah we thought it would be me but I'm pretty soft yeah who would you're figuring out who would use a lessee as an excuse for being late and who wrote these questions definitely mommy definitely mom mommy's late everywhere she goes and now that she's had a lessee now lessee's like oh she was so tough I couldn't get out of the house stop it who knows all the words and dance moves to baby shark oh gosh really we were just

singing it before we got on the phone with you. Oh my gosh. Well, who knows all the words and dance moves to this is how we do it by Montel Jordan? I do. Definitely daddy. Who will be more of a disciplinarian? Oh, that's what we were just talking about. We don't know.

I think, I think Lauren. I think Lauren, too. I do, too. I'm convinced. It's the tracking device that got me. And the reason why I think this is because she is when it comes of the dogs. Like, I'm just like, they're fine. and she's like, get in your kitchen.

Stop. Well, it's because I have to put the baby back to sleep when they wake her up. They're always in trouble. Yeah. Okay. And who's the first one to wake up early to feed a lessee? Oh, mommy, for sure. Mommy, for sure.

I think I did get in the beginning, though. I tried as much to participate. But as a guy, there's only so much you can do. You don't have the milk. Okay, here's a, here's, um, A real dark one. Who will be the one who will be the one

to break the news about Santa to a lessee? Oh, neither of us. No, we're going to The kids at school. We're to keep her in denial until she's like in her 20s. She's probably going to end up

on The Bachelor. I still remember the person who told me Santa Claus wasn't real. I remember her first and last name. It's a traumatizing thing. I remember when I found out I asked Olivia Schwartz

And you do, you do. When I found out, I asked my mom, I'm like, so this, you mean to tell me the Easter bunny isn't real either? And she goes, well, if you think a giant bunny hops around and goes to house to house. And I was like, okay. I get it. I get it, Joe. I can just see you now, man.

I love your mom. That's hilarious. All right. Well, thank you, Ari and Lauren, for calling in and chatting with us. Yeah, yeah, it's been fun, you guys. Yeah, thank you. I wish we could have done this in person next time. Next time we got to meet up.

And let's do it in Vegas because you guys sound like a lot of fun in Vegas. Awesome, Montal Jordan. Sounds good, dude. Thank you guys. All right. Thank you. Thanks so much. Bye.

Thank you. Okay, you guys. We've been doing this podcast for a few months now. And it's come to my attention that I need to get some things off my chest. And so we're going to have this new segment called Rachel's rant. Now, that doesn't mean that I'm always going to be ranting about contestants or things that have happened in Bachelor Nation. Sometimes it's just things that have bothered me in life, in pop culture, maybe it's sports, maybe it's some big headline news. I don't know, something that just has me in a tizzy this week.

So in the spirit of Rachel's rant, here we go. Oh, I'm ready for this. So I wish I could actually refer to it because the girl actually blocked me on social media. But this week, I had someone right on. I posted an interview that I did with Extra or Extra with Robert Pattinson. And I was really proud of this interview. It was my first time doing a press junket. I was really happy to have this opportunity.

And it's something that I've been working towards. So I am not a person who gets flustered or bothered by people writing negative or even positive things on social media. But this one got me because this is a reoccurring thing. for us Bachelor Nation folks. But do you read all these comments? No, but I saw this one. Okay. So you do read a little bit.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I read a little bit because sometimes I like to respond, but I do. Fair. If you're not reading it, I don't believe people who say they don't read anything. I don't read anything. Okay, except for you, Joe. But I'm lying because I do. Especially at night.

You're ruining my rant. Go ahead. New rant. Go ahead. It's rant about me. No, but so this person, this girl writes on my page and she says, aren't you a lawyer? Didn't you used to be a lawyer?

I am so sick of influencers taking jobs when people who go to school get a degree, work really hard to have these roles, and they don't get these type, and we can't get these type of jobs because influencers are taking over for them, or over these jobs. And I wrote back and I said, sis, I am so sorry. I said something about I am sorry that you've got this crab mentality, you know, where you're always trying to pull people down when they make. get to the top. It's really big in black culture. She was black. So I, and I, and then I just go off about it. But my, my biggest thing was, you have no idea. People see you as a Bachelorette or grocery store Joe, and they have no idea what your journey was to get there. So it bothers me that you think that I'm just an influencer as if my life started three years ago when I walked out of a limousine on national TV. I was 31 when I did that. So I was living 31 years before. You have no

idea what my resume is, my job experience, my background that got me to sit in that seat and conduct that interview for extra. Little did this person know that in college, this is exactly what I did. I worked for the sports information department where I was writing magazine articles, articles on the internet, and I was interviewing athletes in all different sports. Plus, my legal skills give me the background to be able to interview people because I have to do depositions and I'm in court and all of that stuff. And it takes a skill. It takes a skill to interview people. It's not easy.

It's not just, oh, my God, I got popular in The Bachelor, so now I can interview some. Right, because everybody would be doing it. Everybody would be interviewing people. And or, just because you went to school for it, doesn't necessarily mean that you're entitled to have that job. Sometimes people take, you know, a non-traditional path into how they get to a career. But it just really offended me. And she's not the first one. There have been multiple people who are like, oh, my gosh, you quit your job just to be famous.

because I'm doing interviewing somebody that means I want to be famous no like this is you have no idea what my background is or how or what I did to get here or the previous jobs that I've had just because you see me on The Bachelorette or The Bachelor they think that that's when your life started so that really I feel like I actually calmed down a bit yeah you seem right you don't even seem pregnant anymore you want to know what I would have responded to that what would you have said ha ha well I did a H.A. Look at me. I'm interviewing Batman. Well, you know what I did do? I guess I wasn't forthcoming. So she wrote me back. I don't remember what she said. And then I said,

okay, okay, you seem really mad. I'm going to go pick up my microphone and conduct another interview or something to that effect. I got to, excuse me, I got to go pick up my microphone and conduct another interview. Got her. That's probably what got me blocked. But I just think that, you know, you shouldn't be so quick to judge somebody in regards to, because they're on TV, are they an influencer, which I hate being titled as an influencer? Don't you feel like you're so much more than that? Oh, it's the worst. As if you don't have anything more than being on TV. There's nothing more to you than being on TV. Me, no, no, that's pretty much all I have. Yeah, no, there's nothing more aggravating than that. But at the same time, I look at it like,

hey, I have to deal with that because this is the life that I chose to live. You know, in a sense? I mean, you don't have to deal with it. See. But I'm just like, I heard an interview once with Jay-Z, and it was about, I forgot what rapper it was about. And this rapper kept going at him and going at him. And the interviewer asked Jay-Z, like, why don't you, what do you have to say about this? And he was just like, I don't even know who that is.

Yeah. Because he's not on my level. Very true. That's how I look at it. And I guess I do for the most part. You know, I don't go, believe me, if I wanted everybody, I would be exalt. I wouldn't have time to be here today. But I guess I just feel like we do invite people into our lives going on reality TV.

So it doesn't bother me when people give insight like that as far as, oh, maybe they comment on my relationship or maybe friendships that I have in vaccination or maybe things that have to do with love or stuff like that. That doesn't bother me because I put myself out there like that. But what I'm doing now, I just feel like, it's really not your place to sum up my entire life in the last three years. I think that's what really gets to me is I worked hard to be where I was before I even stepped on to your television screen. So it really bothers me that people just, I guess just want to simplify who I am to just being on the bachelor and then the bachelor. Yeah. No, I know. that's annoying, especially after, you know, seeing it so many times. I mean, I, for seven years,

I woke up at 1.30 in the morning to go to work and work. I worked over 10 hours a day, six days a week for seven years. Yeah. And it sucked. And now I'm an influencer. So I feel like unless you call yourself an influencer, you shouldn't be, we shouldn't be titled as influencers, right? Like, there are influencers and that's fine and that's what they do. Yeah. But if I'm not calling myself that, please don't call me that just because we were on TV. I agree. I agree. I don't like that word anyways. I don't like it.

Do you have something you want to rant about? Okay, Joe's rant. Who can I rant about? So for me, what I'm going to rant about today is I just watched the documentary on Netflix about Bill Gates. It talks about how 800 children die every day

from diarrhea. You know, there's four billion people that can't go to the bathroom the way we go to the bathroom in this country. Four billion? Billion with a B. I mean, the sanitation problem in the world is heartbreaking. So for me, I try to put it in perspective. After I watch that, it's like, I can't listen to people or myself complain about Instagram photos or the fact that my smoothie. was $9, and I didn't like the way it taste it.

Yeah. So for me, I'm just trying to realize that, you know, there's people in the world that have real fucking issues. And I'm not one of them. So I'm just happy to be here. That's my thing. Damn, he just put my rant to, I'm one of those people. I'm one of those people.

Well, no, it's easy to, no, but it is easy to get upset. Listen, after you were the, you were the, I'm just messing with you. But you wore the lead and you've been in the spotlight for a long time. This is what you do now. You're in entertainment. I'm totally messing with you.

I just had to. I was like, no. I know, but I want to make myself sound more mature. So just fucking let me go, okay? Here's my wrist. You cut me off when I was going, okay? I thought you were done. I was killing it.

I was about to really just smash that thing home. Listen, what you said is real and it's serious. And now I want to go watch this documentary. And I encourage everybody else to watch it too. But we need to be reminded about that. You are right. Sometimes you can be so involved. or just self-absorbed and involved in what's going on in your little world

and not realize that there are problems that are bigger than you. And there are 4 billion people out here. What was it? 4 billion people that can't go to the washroom the way like we do. I mean, there's... Little things we take for granted. In Nigeria, there's little girls that have to go to the bathroom in groups or they'll get raped. Like, that's a fact.

I can't even fathom that. So you're right. Like these little insipid things that we get upset about or complain about, there are bigger issues out there. And thank you, Joe, for that reminder. You're welcome, you know. This kind of guy I am. What can I say? Okay.

Joe, I literally, my face hurts from laughing so hard at the things that are the nonsense that we've been talking about on this podcast. But it's been a good one. It was great to have Ari and Lauren to talk to them. so we want to thank them for coming on. Thank you. Joe, thank you for coming on and being my co-host. Of course. Love hanging out with Rachel. Always a good time.

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