Bachelor Happy Hour - Babies, Beliefs, and Ben Higgins! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” we have former Bachelor Ben Higgins on. Ben is here today to catch up with us and dish out some great advice. We kick off today’s episode getting into all the baby updates, as Ben and his wife are expecting! Then, we get into Ben’s love story with his wife Jess, including some vital rules that helped them get through a stint of long distance. And, of course, we have Ben helping us answer some listener write-ins. Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents.

and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes,

we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, Psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us, everybody. Susan, how are you doing? I'm great. Ready to rock. Can you believe we're doing it together? I know.

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Have we been having fun or what, Ka? I mean, you guys don't know what you're missing. So keep the questions coming, so we do have something to talk about at bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And we have some really great questions today with our special guest. You guys are going to love this. Our guest today may be one of my favorite of all time. We are here welcoming a true fan favorite, Ben Higgins.

How are you doing? Ben. You know, I got the email asking me to do this. I've told you for a long time. This is a dream. Well, you had us, so we need you. Yeah, it's a trade-off. I hope that I can give as good entertainment as the two of you do.

But we've had a lot of fun together. And I've always enjoyed being around both of you. Okay. One thing, though, one thing you taught us, though. You told us very early on how to, the good. negotiate each other and you know what I mean balance that ball you know what I'm I'll tell you what I remember first of all I think you give some of the best advice ever I love listening to your podcast but secondly when we first started you said to me and I'll never forget

it um when you have a guest on let the guests talk because people want to hear the guest and here we are right now talking right every so I don't want a chance at this okay and and also I hear the you've got a little boo-boo on your hand that needs some attention. What's going on? I came on the day wanting advice from two mothers. I woke up in the middle of night and my finger was just throbbing. And then I woke up and I have this like bump that kind of runs on the outside of my finger into my cuticle. And it feels hot.

Can I tell you what Dr. Swartz? That would be I. That would be me. You have what is called parinicia. Yeah. And in layman's terms, it is an infection in your cuticle. There's just some pus. You have to go to the doctor. Oh, no, you don't.

I do them all the time. Well, you know, Susan, you can try to get a needle, sterilize it, and open it up and get the infection out. I did that, but I'm also on antibiotics. I had the same thing last week. I think you're going to survive, but do try it. You know what I love? Ben and I haven't it is very painful but you know we're going to get to this your wife Jess is pregnant and I mean a pair of Nikki is like tea and crumpets compared to what she's

going through uh trust me I've I've been witnessing it um she's a trooper let me tell you that she is like my wife has this uh this characteristic about her that I don't have we met her I know yeah she's cool she doesn't want to make like she doesn't like to complain

and she doesn't want to make my life harder which at times is frustrating because I'm like we're partners so you can make my life harder but she is right now 23 weeks pregnant has kind of been through the ringer

she's a tiny human so like this is a lot for her our baby as of to yesterday is the size of a game boy. Do you love, you know, my daughter had her first child like 17 months ago and she'd come home and say, today it's the size of a pee.

You know, now it's a pear and now a watermelon, now it's a game boy. I mean, do you love the measuring sticks they use for pregnancy now? I love it. I love to see Jess get excited about it. If I'm honest, and she

knows this, I am still in a phase of freak out in like a healthy way. Like, I'm ready to be a dad. Until you hold that baby, you will be. Yeah. And then you'll freak out. How are you going to feel about two women in the house? Well, there's two men right now, myself and my dog. Oh, okay. Then we'll balance. Yeah. So we'll balance it out. Being a girl dad is something I always grew up. I mean, since I was little saying I never want to be because I know that she's going to crush me. Yes. I am a very sensitive human. Oh, God.

You're doomed, babe. This is your daughter. She can do no role. I have had to go to therapy. I've had to work because I get easily hurt, like not offended more than like just like her. I question a lot of things. Your feelings. Yeah, I'm always.

Are you a Pisces? worry, I don't know what, March 23rd. I'm a pipe to wear Pisces. That's why. Yeah. I just, I'm always think, like my mind's always going about worst case scenario thinking. And so I was always like, I can't have a daughter. But now we're working on the nursery right now. And I've been, what color, what color we do in the nursery? Like a light pink. It's really pretty. And then I did like a Wayne's coat below. Sounds like my daughter's nursery.

Yeah. And it's Winnie the Pooh. themed. My wife and I love Winnie the Pooh. Do you like doing these sort of things like they're doing the week? Because that will only last a year if that. Okay. So I want to ask you, Ben, like your dog Waylon, my daughter and her

husband have a boxer and my son lost son's just like you. That's his first born. It's his son. I mean, exactly. And I also have a daughter. So exactly the same scenario. And And I said to my daughter, when you have this baby, this dog is going to become secondary. No, mom, never, never.

Well, so what's happened is the dog is definitely secondary for her. And my son-in-law, Johnny, is like, like, he has two children. I mean, it has not changed. You think it's going to happen to you? Yeah. Waylon and I are like work buddies. He, you know, this is my office. I work from home.

He hangs out. I sit here all day. He's with me all day. You know, I take a lot of meetings on walks with him. Like that, that won't change, right? Yeah, that won't change. Now, he takes up a lot of the bed at night. And so that might change a little bit over time.

I swear, I feel like I'm talking to my dog, same exact thing. Yeah, I can't sleep with the dogs now. You know what they've done? They put a thing at the foot of the bed, his bed. And the minute they go to sleep or turn their eye, he's right back up in with them. Yeah, he's my buddy. And he also, I think, will be, you know, what I understand about baby stage is Jessica is going to have a lot more work to do than I am. Is she got breastfeed? Yeah, she's going to try. That's her hope. She really wants to.

And so they'll be like the sweet relief of quiet on walks for me. And I'm okay with that. You must have done a lot of reading. Yeah, well, oh no, look, I have, I literally, what to expect when you're expecting your first child? It's called the birth partner. It's so thick. What page are you on? Oh, geez, I've read a lot of it. Let me just tell you, bad.

Let me ask you something. What did you get out of it so far? Give me like three things that you didn't know that that book told you. Well, let me start with the things that I probably should have known that I, so just gives me. So Jess gives me this book, and I open it up. And the first two chapters are about where to massage my wife during pregnancy. I'm like, this, this is funny. Like, this is, this is good.

I hope there's a whole chapter dedicated to the birth present, the push present. Yes, you do not. Do not forget, Ben, there's a gift involved. Goodness gracious, ladies. Come on. No, no, no. No, that's the thing. We're dead serious.

I'm deadly serious. It's called a push present. You think I'm kidding? Can I tell a short story? My son didn't think this was true, and she has the baby, right? And I'm like, Christopher, what? He goes, Mom, are you serious? I gave them diamonds.

I'm serious. I said you've got to give her something. Yes. Yeah. Have that ready. Yeah, thank you. Doesn't roses doesn't count. I think he's passing on this one.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to. school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age it's even more likely that they're cheating

he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm

Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many

of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever.

Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Okay, what else have you learned? I'll do it.

I've learned it's actually really cool. The different exercises as we get closer to, like to a, help her body get ready for pregnancy, like bounce on a ball and some of the stretches she can do and then some of like the exercise. So I've learned that right now. So this book is more about the delivery. It's more about him helping or is she working out then, walking? Because that really will make delivery a lot easier. He works out every day. Like I said, she's a trooper. I've also, I'm in the chapter right now of what to expect in the like delivery room. When she curses you out, It's not planned.

It just happens. You know what? I'm telling you, it's not going to go the way you think it's going to go. It never does. Yeah. It just, you know, just roll with it. It'll be fine. Babies are born every day.

Yeah. They don't come with manuals. You've heard it all before. You're going to make a ton of mistakes and you're going to love her and she's going to love you. Sometimes it's really quick too from, you know, like she's four centimeters. Oh, we have a while and boom. She's at nine. Let's go.

Put the blues on. Our hospital's 30, she wanted to go to the, like, the best delivery hospital here in Denver. And it's a good 40 minutes from our house. And so, like, I'm hoping we have, like, some warning and some, some, you did. Ben, on my first one, I had 23 hours of warning. You'll have plenty of time. Hopefully she'll take more after me. My water broke at 2 a.m. and the baby was here at 6.

Yeah. I mean, it's not going to, it would be very rare on a first baby. to go into labor and, you know, not be able to get to the hospital. But, you know, like I said, things are. All right, I have a question. I think you are a remarkable human and I've met your wife and therefore she is a remarkable human. But I want to know, and you've always said that, how did you know she was the one?

You know, I think, so we met on Instagram. I messaged her. My buddies actually from the show, there was three of them, Dean. and Wells and Nick. We were all up to Vegas for like a concert. And they said, you got to start messaging girls on Instagram. And I didn't necessarily like feel great about that at the time.

I think it's more common now back then. It was like kind of a like a taboo kind of creepy thing to do. And then I saw her picture. And that's shortening up the story. I had messaged her. and it was really my first FaceTime with her was after I went to a church service

and my faith is very important to me and it's something that I my faith tradition and my like learning more about it is very valuable to me and I had an issue with the service like I was like I just I don't love how this was presented or I have questions about it

and I was FaceTiming with her for the first time ever and I brought it up like just kind of in passing and she sat through that conversation with me and she did she give her input did she have an opinion give her input but she also listened really well and that was the first time I was like goodness this feels different than a lot of the relationships I've had in the past like she's not jumping on me she's not telling me I'm right or wrong she's just listening and then we had our first date out here in Denver it was the night of my very first restaurant opening

ever. So there's the very first restaurant I ever opened up. And your first date? All in the same night? That's big. Yeah. She wanted to support me because she knew it meant a lot to me. How long did you? Wait, how long had you known her at that point? Three weeks.

Wow. See, that's The opening and the first date. I think the chemistry had, you had to know. I mean, that just is too. He felt a certain way. Yeah, you had to. We sat down at dinner. And I remember just talking to her in person then. And I said, this is either going to be the best thing that ever happened to me or it's going to break me.

And it ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me. And so I think it was more for us because we did long distance, because we were talking the phone and FaceTiming, it wasn't this immediate, like, euphoric, oh my gosh, I'm marrying this girl. It really was our first couple interactions together for me to be like, yeah, this is like what I've always dreamed of in a part. And for people out there listening, long distance can work. Very much so. We had a couple rules in our long distance dating that I think was really valuable. One, the biggest one was we never met up with each other in person without having another time plan that we're going to see each other again.

And so we never like, she never flew out here, fly to see her. Where did she live? Nashville. That's right. That's right. And then the second one, which I highly recommend, and this was based on another buddy of mine who married somebody he was dating long distance,

was their relationship, what he witnessed and what I witnessed was every time they would leave each other, there would be so much sadness around the goodbye. So like the last day, all that would be talked about was, I'm going to miss you. I can't stand this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't stand it. And yes, that's an obvious feeling when you love somebody. Yeah. So what Jess and I decided to do is do that. Say, hey, I'll see you in two weeks. And we never, and this was hard. It was. We never showed emotion or said out loud that we were sad we were leaving when we were together. Why? I love that. Well, I don't think I could do it. Well, what it did was it kept our times together uplifted instead of always being surrounded by sadness. And it kept you in the moment, enjoyed the moment. And then I don't think I could do it. And then I don't think I could do it. It was it kept our times together uplifted. And then. I don't think I could. It was. It kept you in the moment, and joined the moment. And then. And then. And then. And then. It kept. And then. And it. And it. And looking forward to the next moment. Yeah, tear, when I kissed you goodby as I headed for the plane.

It would be a big crocodile tear coming down my eye. Her mom laughs. She's like, because she knew this and she knew our rules. And her mom's like, yeah, guess who took the brunt of all of that? Oh, yeah. I was going to say, she took the high road and walked away with her head high and then crumpled as soon she got to mom. Yeah, she called her mom sort of bawling.

You guys are going on a three-year. your anniversary, correct? Yeah, next month. Wow. Happy anniversary. It's going to change, but you know what? Your life is about to change in the most remarkable way that it really does defy description. You just aren't believing, going to believe the journey you're about to.

Yeah. It's totally different than any bachelor. I can't wait. I want to ask you, so I saw on socials that you were emceeing the mom con. Yeah. I want to know how you got into that. what was it like the whole bit I want to know that's such a good question um so it is my target demographic uh it is uh it is a place that if i want to feel cool about myself again i go back to

mom com okay so mom con comes from mom co which was formerly mops mops is a uh really a non-profit that does uh support for moms within church systems or within community systems so their focus is really getting into like helping moms connecting community through you know studies etc so mops is what they're you know they were known for for 49 years that's really popular and it's in 126 different countries mom co is their new brand so that like mothers morning out where they take the kids for a couple hours you can food shop we had that in texas yeah it's similar so like what what they do is like if you go to a church or if you are a part of a school system moms will come in and say okay we're going to give you the material this is what you can talk

about this week here some activities you should do so it's a way to build women empower women and build community within a town or a church community or whatever or women that are depressed or have issues they have to have a baby there's people to reach out to and then they also help share like the most recent cool mom tricks right like here's what we're learning about baby nutrition or Here's what we're learning about, you know, young child care. So once a year, mom con is where all the moms that are part of these groups, again, across down in 26 different countries, come to a conference. And there is 5,000 of these moms in this room.

That's so cool. I just had a genius idea, Susan. Okay. We're going to have single man con. And we're going to have a conference with, we're going to have a hundred, 226 countries all, and you know who's going to have sense it, Susan? Oh, God. You and me.

Okay. I mean, why not? Why not? I mean, why? And so, yeah, so they asked me this year if generous, so generous coffee, the company I operate, did a mom-com, like, coffee bag. So the profits from that bag will go to Momco, and then they asked if I would emce the event. And it was hilarious. So I can imagine.

I was one of like four dudes in the whole room of 5,000 women. Which brings me back to. And they were women without children there. So they were, woo-hoo. They were going wild. It is a uniquely different experience when you see moms on the loose without kids. Oh, no. We know.

We have been moms on the loose with no kids. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. Now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge.

But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half. half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency

Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Speaking of experiences and takeaways, if you will, what have you learned or took away? Before meeting your wife, like after leaving Bachelor, what lesson could you share with someone? Maybe even to save them the aggravation or the heartache, if you want. Of dating? Yes.

I would say, I wish, you know, I think the best advice I had when I was single was date often. And, you know, I think that gets a little weirder today. But if you date often, like, it doesn't put as much. stress and I think dating is a little bit like exercising a muscle it's it always made me very anxious it always made me like a lot of a lot of anxiety I always hated dates because if the date didn't go well then at some point you're like many breaking up with somebody or telling them I don't want to see him again and so I think uh as I got off the show I kind of hit out um as a man

because you ask people for dates as a woman I mean I know today we can ask as well but not as much as a man would, right? Yeah, and it's always a little awkward, um, after show, I think, because one, my ego was big, but I also was still, like, I still had the understanding of who I was as a person. So, like, I wasn't really figuring myself out a lot. I just, I think dating often would be the best because you get used to dates not working out. You also get familiar with what you're into and what you're not into. I think dating often also allows you to maybe become attracted to things that you maybe didn't grow up thinking you were attracted to because you weren't exposed to the experiences, yeah.

So that would be my advice. That's cool. All right. Well, we, you know, we give some advice to and you, who I think are the master of advice. We're going to read some questions and help you'll help us weigh in on the answers. Do you join in? Okay. All right.

Here we go. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I could really use your advice. I've been with my boyfriend for about two years now, and everything between us is great. He's honestly my best friend, and we started talking more seriously about our future together. The only sticking point is that we come from different religious backgrounds. He's very active in his faith, which I totally respect, and I've even started looking into converting because it's important to him, and I feel like it's something I could really embrace, too. The big issue is his parents. They've made it very clear that they're not thrilled about him dating someone who wasn't

born into their religion, even though I'm willing to convert. It's like no matter how open I am, they don't think I'll ever fully be one of them. It's frustrating because I want to have a good relationship with this family and I know how much their opinion matters to him, but I'm starting to feel like I'm never going to be enough in their eyes. He's been supportive, but I can tell he's caught in the middle, trying to balance our relationship with what his parents want. So here's the thing. How much say should his parents have in our relationship? Should I be worried that their opinion might hold him back from fully committing to me?

Would love any advice. Thank you. Okay, Ben, what do you think? So my advice is this. I think faith is, so when I read this, you know, I think one of the things that would be helpful would be no what kind of like faith tradition we're talking about what type of religious background we're talking about because the word convert gives me a Jewish right yeah that's women convert that's my that was kind of my assumption was they were talking about Judaism and and typically

like with the Jewish community that I surround myself with converting is a very respectable and fair and accepted you know step and and most people will say hey thank you for to take for doing this for the family now i can speak to this because of my christian faith and say that you know i think and what i know about my faith is it's a genuine and authentic um transformation for me and i think that's getting into a lot of the nitty gritty of my faith but i'm i'm a christian for multiple reasons one of which being that i i've had experiences in my life where i feel like um that is the the faith tradition that leads me in the best direction. That is true to the world around me that helps me love people better. And so I think

that would be hard. If you are looking at that going, well, I just want to convert to find acceptance, well, I would say that's not really what I'd be looking for in a partner. I would want you to have a genuine experience with the divine that makes your life. So this is an interesting question And for me, my father was Jewish and my mother was a member of every Christian church depending on who she was married to at the time. And so I grew up really between two worlds. And I'm sure people have comments on this, but for me, the biggest difference, and I grew up in almost totally Jewish neighborhood.

And we were the ones that, you know, I was a Shiksai. It was, you know, because my father was only Jewish. Again, in the Hebrew tradition, the mother's religion is, no, in the Jewish religion, the mother's religion is what you are. In other words, my father was Jewish, but I would have to convert to Judaism if, you know, I was dating someone Jewish. And here's the thing for me. If you're a Christian, you believe that Jesus is Savior and died on the cross for your sins. If you're a Jew, you believe that Jesus existed, he was a prophet, but he is not the son of God. And in fact, that is still yet to come.

You know, he was a prophet. So it's so completely, what's where I'm looking for? Completely opposite sides of the coin. So I think if someone grew up in a Christian tradition, it would be hard to convert unless you were like me, who really didn't grow up with a tradition, if that makes sense. What I see here is she's worried about his parents. A lot of women that are in love with their spouse and they want to convert. They are better practicing in the synagogue than people that are brought up Jewish and, you know, by mitzvah and so on.

So I think they're very strong when they convert. but it's your choice choice but like you just said kathy it's the woman that the one that's going to raise the children and bring them and teach them Judaism do you know that's what is important i also i think here in this question i want to give a little shout out to the writer or to the because there's a lot of understanding in the language of this uh she's obviously witnessed uh the concerns by the parents also accepted how much her partner right now, her boyfriend, is caring for, you know, kind of holding the weight of both situations. And that's where I think the advice would come in is in the weight of both situations.

I think this is only going to get increasingly difficult. And I do think having the family in support is very valuable in a marriage. Do I think it makes her break in marriage? No, but I think it's very valuable. And I think it makes the marriage a lot more fruitful. Yes. when everybody involved is excited and celebrating and giving their support behind this union. And so what I would say here is, you know, break up and all that, that's not good advice.

What I would say here is I think the advice I would have was take a big leap of faith in your own experience and sit down with them all together. You at this point have to lead this conversation because it feels like a lot of words are being thrown around either behind your back and a lot of. lack of support or to your boyfriend where he's having to carry the weight of both. So I think if you're seeing this and you're experiencing it, send them all down together and say, hey, I want to do what I can to be a part of this family because I love your son and I want to be with your son. And I understand there's concerns and I want to do what I can to alleviate those concerns. But if I can't in your eyes, if that's never going to be an option for you, I need to know

that now so that we don't continue down this path of dating and falling more in love. And it's time. And that's, Ben, that's exactly that last line to me speaks directly to what you're saying. It's not, in my mind, just about the religion. You know, this person says how much say should his parents have in our relationship? And so I think your advice is really sound. It's not, potentially this is not just a conversation about religion, but other lifestyle, you know, all kinds of things that she may feel the parents are going to in her mind. mind overstep.

So, yeah, I think. And she shares, he's very active in his faith, and she respects it. Right. So I think sitting down and communicating is always the best path. In these situations especially, and it's not going to be easy. And I know that feels like there's better, there, I know when you write this, there could be, it feels like there's better advice out there that might not have to confront it. But I think in this situation, you have to confront it.

because I can't imagine I love my in-laws and they love me and we have a great relationship I understand that's not the case for everybody and nor do I think

it's like that the make or break but I do think if they are going to continue to overstep if they're going to continue to whisper words of resentment

into your partner's ears over time that we'll eat at him and that's unfair to him got it, got it. You know what? We wish them a lot of luck and be true to yourself right?

Yeah. Okay, well, I got to say, that's doing it for this episode. We don't even get to do the ball. Boy, Ben, we chatted a lot, though. We chatted a lot. And I cannot tell you, thank you so much for joining us. You never proved me wrong. You are a man of wisdom, a man of just kindness.

I just, you really win the award for me. As well as after the baby shower, whatever you didn't receive. you know, Kathy and I are going to gift you. So we'd like to know instead of doubling something that you already have. You're sweet. You're very sweet. We just need the registry. DM me.

Tell me the registry. You're good at those DMs now. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's always worked out well for me. I get a wife and free gifts. This is awesome. I know.

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