Bachelor Happy Hour - Bachelorette Katie Thurston Is Here!

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Bachelorette Katie Thurston joins Becca and guest co-host Tayshia Adams to talk about her wild ride as Bachelorette and reveals what we can expect this season on the show. Katie shares which date from Monday night’s episode was her favorite and which guy she was “extremely proud of.”Then, Katie breaks down the drama between Aaron and Cody, and she gives a sneak peek into the important conversation she’ll be having on next week’s episode that “surprised everybody.” Plus, Katie plays a hilarious edition of “This or That: Bachelorettes Only.”  Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am so excited to be back and give you all a little bit more tea about this season. but I'm most excited for our guest today. The Bachelorette herself, Katie is joining us, and I just like can't wait. It's going to be a good episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. I can't wait. We haven't had Katie on Bachelor Happy Hour since she was on Matt season, which was forever ago.

Crazy. It's been so long. I mean, it just feels like eons ago that we had her on. And like I absolutely fell in love with her when we first had her with us. So we're going to bring her on very shortly. But before we do chat with her, We just have to get into last night's episode. We saw a lot go down.

We obviously were left with the cliffhanger. I'm excited to actually have Katie on, though, because, you know, we can chat about all of the dirt and the tea and what went down with her. But I think we should just start off. And Tisha, if you're cool with this, just like maybe give, like, our favorite highlights or low lights of the, I was going to say the season of the episode that we saw. Yeah, absolutely. Well, first off, I have to say with the first of, I have to say with the first. date. Can I just say that I love Heather McDonald and that... Yes, you can. I think that

date was just so different from anything I've ever seen, really, on The Bachelorette. And I think the guys were so incredibly funny and made light of a situation that can kind of be awkward at times in front of 30 guys that are all trying to date the same girl. Heather McDonald was the perfect host for that. I absolutely love her. Obviously, we chatted with her last week, but she just brought such a funny perspective to the date without making it. Like, it didn't cross a line. Like, I'm sure some people were going to watch it and be like, oh, you know, this is kind of like scandalous or like trashy. I thought it was great. It was handled so well. Most of the guys besides Mike, who obviously we saw was very uncomfortable with the date

for certain reasons. Like most of the guys just owned it and made it very lighthearted. Who, I mean, because you are obviously there sitting next to Katie. Who was your favorite standout guy from that group date? Oh, my gosh. Let me think. She laughed so hard with Trey's little like puppet show, which was so awkward in person because it went on for like 15 minutes. But it was comical.

I thought she really enjoyed Connors, the cat. I was going to say. She loved that song. I loved that song. I was like, girl, if you don't like that song, there's something wrong with you. Let me clean out your little ears. Because he was just, I was not expecting that from him. He's good.

He can actually sing. He's not just like. And write lyrics. Hello. Yes. He's clever. It was like the perfect balance of like actually good performing. And, you know, like he's very musically talented with witty lyrics.

And I was right. And it wasn't like to show off you like, hi, I'm a musician. Like, let me play for you. It was just like, I can. play along and then just like it was witty it was cute it was flirty and you didn't expect some of those lines from Connor the cat so um yeah that was great the only thing I wish would have been added to that is if he would have actually still had the cat costume on while he was performing I think the cat costume is dead and done okay baby I think the cat costume is dead and done I don't know after we saw

how much she loved in I won it's got to be somewhere I feel like it's not too far away um so funny he probably still has it in his closet it. Oh, gosh. I would hope so. If he doesn't come out to like Mentel All, if he, you know, I don't know how far he gets, but if he's, if he's part of Mental All and he's not in that costume or like the pause, don't make an appearance. I'm going to be very disappointed. That is comical. Okay, wait. We'll have to look out for that. Okay. So obviously, group date, for the most part went well. We saw Thomas get the group date rose that night. Great. Can I just say, I don't think I trust Thomas. It's so funny because,

I try not to say too much, but I thought the same thing. Like you're too good looking and you say the right things and there's something like red flaggy about that. Is that not right? No, I feel the same way. I wrote in my notes. Okay, I said he's hot, but I don't trust a man who after meeting him says, he keeps saying like, you can trust me. you can trust me it's like why are you telling me this right now like he's just like too scripted too perfect like he says all the right things it's like he's watched the show every

season you know like he knows but i mean of course you if i was katy i would look at him and be like oh okay i trust you too got it um yeah i could trust you there's just something about him so we'll see we'll see i i don't know what's going to go down but um yeah he he got the group date on that on that or He got the group date rose on that date. But then we go into one of the people's favorites so far. Mr. First Impression Rose man himself. Greg went on a red pickup truck camping tent date with Katie, which I found as one of the sweetest dates I've ever witnessed.

I completely agree. From start to finish, it was sweet. But no, I think Greg just there's something about like, sharing something really heavy, like a loss of a parent with somebody else that bonds people in a specific way. And I think, I mean, it's only, it's week one. It's her first one-on-one date. I mean, usually guys who go on the first one-on-one date, it's like tend to make it pretty far just because you establish a connection very early on, fresh out the gate. And so I think that in itself layered with the fact that they both recently lost their fathers. I'm like,

you know, wow, I've just watched the entire season that unfold. So I like, I like, Greg, I'm going to keep my eye on him. If I was, if I was a betting woman, I'd say he's going far. I'm always wrong. So I probably shouldn't bet. But yeah, then we get into the last date, the buckle brawl. Nothing like too wild and crazy with most of the men besides Aaron and Cody, which we saw some of that drama happened. There was obviously tension brewing between the men, which ultimately led Katie feeling comfortable talking to Aaron, which I'm glad that she got to that point with him with somebody in the group where she could sit down and be like, hey, look, tell me what's going on, give it to me straight, you know, no BS.

And let her to send Cody home, which whatever. If she felt like that was the right thing to do, like, kudos to her. If she knows what she wants and she doesn't want to mess around and deal with extra guys who she has to question this early on, I'm like, send him home. Goodbye. Goodbye, Cody. That's what I told her. I was just like, hey, if this is already a thing, nip it in the bud, we don't have time for

that. And she was like, yeah, I actually don't have time for that. So I'm just going to say, ta-ta. You know, wait, can I just say one thing? Like, the one thing that kind of like pulled on my heartstrings just a little bit this episode. Oh, give it to me. Of course. You know, I just have to say, like, after watching it, because obviously Caitlin and I were there on the greatest lover date. But to see Mike P., like behind the scenes, like how much, like how nervous he was, but also, like, how. how much he emotionally went through, like, having to tell somebody that he's a virgin. Like, that broke my heart because it really isn't something that, like, I feel like people

should, like, be so scared to say. And I know that Katie's sex positive, but, like, people, like, that's him and that's, like, you. And I really hated that he felt like, I don't know. Like, it was something to almost kind of be not, he wasn't ashamed of it at all. but it was more of like he was like timid to share. Yeah. Well, and I can't speak for him because I don't know him and I'm not him.

But I can imagine like it's one thing to know at some point you're going to have to have that conversation with whoever the lead is that's expected unless you go home early on. But I don't think he and he even admitted this. I don't think he thought it was going to be that early on in that public of a setting. It's definitely something if I was him I would have wanted to have with just her. the way he approached how he actually told her I found so endearing I like I'm so glad she gave him the award to win that group date that day because he opened up and he was sweet about it he made I think he he made it be known like more of who he was and that you know yeah maybe he didn't want

to share it but he still did and that takes balls but maybe that's like the wrong phrase to say too right now No, I don't know. But it's like, he did it in such a classy way. Like, yeah. I just remember being there and him reading that, you know, his entry, his journal entry. And I was crying. Katie was crying. Caitlin was crying.

Like, it was done so beautifully. And I just want to give him, like, a round of applause and just, like, tell him, like, I loved that so much. We're Mike fans. It was just so genuine and sincere and so well said. And just, I'm so happy he received the award. Like, hopefully that encourages people to, like, I don't know. know just be okay with that that's you that's you you know yeah and it's so great that we're seeing

all ends of the spectrum here from everyone that comes on the show you have people who are virgins and saving themselves so marriage and that's great you have people who are very open and out there and sex positive and that's great and then you have everyone in between and so it's all somebody's own personal choice it's all our own personal journeys to learn and grow on and so just allow everyone to be themselves people and so Mike thank you for sharing I'm so glad that you know we finally got to the point hopefully now now that that's out he can feel more comfortable in this setting and you know being more open and moving forward with Katie yeah but that was really sweet so yeah I just wanted to get get that out of it anyway yeah okay I'm so excited for Katie yeah I'm so excited to

see what next week holds we'll start off I'm assuming with the roast ceremony because we ended with that cliffhanger, which I hate. But I get it. You got to keep us hooked people. So I think without further ado, we just should bring Katie on because I have so many questions for her. I know you do and you have definitely built a friendship with her since then. And it's probably just going to be great to have you as co-hosts with me today to help her feel a little bit more comfortable.

So everybody, please welcome the amazing Bachelorette herself, Katie. Katie, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I was trying to just think about the last time we had you on, which was in the middle of Matt's season, I think, like months and months ago. So welcome back. Your life has completely changed since then between finishing Matt season, watching his season back, being announced as Badchart, filming your own season. And now your season is airing. So much has gone down. So how have you been feeling throughout all of these crazy months?

I mean, I'll be honest. Like my life actually feels kind of the same right now. because everything's like in limbo a little bit you know at times it also feels like a dream and so when i watch it back i'm like oh no this is real life this is really happening like that stuff actually went down right and and it's always such an odd experience because obviously you lived it like there's so much that you went through with these guys and like in your own personal journey but now watching it back there's so much that you realize you don't see like you you know like you're not with the guys 24-7, you're not in their interviews.

So how has that been like watching what they say about you back, watching what goes down at the resort when you're not around? Like, what is that like for you? It's interesting because without giving any spoilers, some of the things that these guys are saying or are struggling with are like foreshadowing future conflict. And it's like, oh, that was something they were battling early on or there were red flags early on that I never saw. And so it is very interesting to finally see like behind the scene.

isn't it it's it's it's like i wish y'all would have told me about that now that you're watching about it right i mean i know i definitely felt like that watching my season back and i could only imagine for you because like we all can relate it to some capacity we all could relate a lot okay but these guys i feel like i always thought like why didn't you tell me that like it would have helped us you know so i totally understand well that's why i think it's good that katie you have kately and tasha which i want to ask you about but thank goodness you had them, you know, as like this girl gang, these confidants, like that you could lean on for advice in situations because, you know, they went through the entire thing. And, and maybe

they were picking up or hearing certain things when you weren't around that they could have shared with you. Obviously, when they came on, it was a complete surprise to you. So reliving that back, what did that feel like for you when you first saw them? I mean, well, I was going to say come out of the limo, but they just stuck up behind you. I was so shocked. I'm reliving the emotion right now of like this like overwhelming joy of like thank god these women are here and it was nothing i could have ever expected and i honestly almost cried or maybe i even did i don't remember but i was relieved i was so happy to have them both there you took on a big undertaking going in thinking like you might not have a host you might not have anyone there besides the men and you know

your team of producers there so i'm so glad that you guys all had each other to lean on i know i've talked to both Tash and Caitlin, who they've had moments too, I think filming with you that brought back memories. And so I think on all fronts, it was good that you guys all had each other. One thing that we can all relate to, as Tasha said, you know, more than anything else is, like, this experience really bonds people in a weird way. And nothing can truly prepare you for the role that is being the lead in this franchise. So we're curious to know, since we have you on, And I'm sure much of our listeners have been wondering this, too. What were, like, say, three qualities or conversations, et cetera, that you had going into your season, knowing you wanted to talk about with the men, whether it made it on air or not, that, like, were very important to you.

You know, it's tough because becoming a bachelor, it was such a, like, short notice for me that I almost didn't really have time to plan that way. You know, like, as I'm there, I'm getting advice from Tasia and Caitlin of, like, exactly that question. I'm like, what do you want to know? And I'm like, I don't know. I haven't really thought this far yet. I was taking it day by day. But obviously, kind of knowing, I think, what their goals are, where they see their life headed in the next year

and trying to figure out if that's something I can intertwine with. Man. I know. And like, honestly, being that I was there with Katie, like we had a lot of conversations, her eye and Caitlin, about like, you know, what are you trying to get out of this? Also, like, she was kind of stressed out because she's like, I don't know what I'm supposed to feel, what I'm supposed to feel,

and when that's, like, it's going to be very obvious to me, and why don't I feel this or that yet? And it's just, it's so hard to really tell somebody when that's going to happen or how you're supposed to feel or navigate those waters. But it's just, it's such a unique journey that you kind of just have to let it unfold and try to let go of control, which Katie, I know I've told you multiple times. It's like, this is the one thing you kind of just have to, like, lean into. And it's really, really hard to do that. So I understand the thing of like not knowing exactly

coming in there and be like, I don't know. I know that I like this type of man or like this, this, this, this, this. But like, being able to like pick up a guy in the lineup and be like, yep, you have it all. It's so hard to do that, even though you have that option in a way. I mean, you have 30 men to choose from. It's a lot. Well, and I think it's so easy for anyone to kind of go off of what your physically attracted to right like 30 men are coming out of the limo it's easy to be like oh that's my type he's hot yes sign me up for that man but that's why i loved katie when you were able to sit down with tation katelyn and i don't remember which one of you told her this but you said one of you said just you know stay open to everyone because they might surprise you you know like don't write

anyone off night one because you never know what their personality what their personality is going to be like what they might open up to you about um right so so i know that they told you that night one, Katie, did you feel like throughout these next couple weeks? And I guess throughout the entire journey, if you will, God, I'm like trying not to say that word, but throughout your entire journey. Did you keep that in the back of your mind and try to always like remember that? And, you know, like if you were trying to write somebody or like at the point of writing somebody after you're like, let me just give them one more shot. Like how open do you feel like you stayed the entire time? I was extremely open with every single guy, which I think is going to be so obvious as, you know,

bachelor nation is watching back i built really strong connections with some of these guys friendships with some of them like to be honest i'm very excited for men to all because i have nothing but great things to say about a lot of these men i don't think i've ever heard anyone so they're excited for mental all before i was just gonna say that's usually not the case yeah it's nerve-wracking walking into a room full of all of your exes who you just recently broke up with and you're just like oh it's I mean it's fun and a lot of them like for the most part like the guys are great I don't know your men I can only assume going off of past seasons like they'll wish you the best and want you nothing but happiness but it's a little nerve-wracking so thank God you have

Carrie to style you and you have Gina to make you look flawless when you're out there in front of all those exes but okay let's get into the good stuff um we need to get into I mean we've obviously seen now two episodes um but there's so much more that I'm sure is going to go down in the weeks and the months to come. So getting into night one, obviously, you know, one of the biggest surprises I'm sure you had were Caitlin and Tasha coming in and surprising you. But limo entrances, what was your absolute favorite and what was your least favorite? I love that question.

I feel like that should be so obvious because my favorite was Connor the cat, like hands down, without a doubt. my least favorite was definitely the RV with Jeff. But was it your least favorite at first or when he brought you in later? I think in the beginning I had a feeling I wasn't going to like it. Sorry, I was already going into as well expectation. And then when I was in the RV, I was like, oh, yeah, I was like. Yes, it's not as he's eating celery and just has like crappling all over. I was still in taste of this last week.

like murdering me and like give me a drink and go to the bedroom like he's like jokes I'm like I don't know if you're joking sir you want to know what I weirdly love like true crime and weird shit like that so I feel like I would have kind of been like into it a little bit in a weird way that's probably not a good thing and you probably should cut that habit like now okay I would have just been like giving him shit like oh yeah I heard this on like a crime podcast last week or I just watched a documentary and the girl got murder ordered and like, great. What'd you sign me up for, ABC?

You know, like, just, I don't know. Right. I would have, I had some fun with it. Oh, my gosh. I just had a question about the RV thing, and I totally forgot. Oh, my gosh. We can move on from that, I guarantee. Yeah, we don't intend it with RV. It was so interesting, though, watching you meet the men and then having Caitlin and Tasha

watching in the background, because I feel like there were certain instances where you, I don't know if you like you weren't too sure. of the men of who you were meeting but the girls in the back were like oh she likes him she's into him yeah and then like to see it all play back and like who you kept and sent home i was like this is this is like a good way to be doing a premiere night like having your girlfriend's there eating some popcorn yes it's so funny because katie like i was just realizing this last week but like we had no idea what these guys were saying to you and so like when you were giving us a thumbs up we're like okay cool like she's into it and like when you were giving the thumbs down like

we had no idea what the guys were saying but then watching the episode we're like now that makes sense that was creepy or like walk away like you know what I mean so it was so fun like seeing you be able to I don't know because we had just met that night like we didn't know what you're into and how you would react to some of these things so it was really fun for Caitlin and I to actually watch it and like talk about it after the fact because we're like that makes so much sense now we could have I wish we had like a listening device next time I'm just give everyone some walkie-talkies. That would be a good idea.

That would have been a little. Yeah, like, Katie, how are you doing? S-O-S. Overn out. Okay, so Katie, last night,

let's get into your first actual week of dates. So we saw you go on three different dates. Out of all of those, which date activity-wise was your overall favorite. Honestly, I really love the greatest lover of all-time date because you guys only got to see just a small portion of it,

but it felt like a comedy show. Like it was like, I don't know, like two hours maybe of just pure entertainment and laughter. And this is like the first time we're all kind of getting to know each other as a group. It was just so much fun. It was a good one. I will say Heather McDonald is incredible. She did such a good job hosting that. And it was just such like a good catered date towards you, I feel like.

Because, you know, all season, so far we've been talking about how sex positive and just open you are. And I think that's something probably very important that you wanted to see and hear. um so we saw you give your uh group date rose to mike at that date um who admitted that he was saving himself for marriage how did that make you feel sitting on the bed staring at him as he is reading you this letter um i just want to clarify i think he actually got just like the award for that but the rose was someone else that night right oh yeah okay so mike got the award yes Yeah. So Mike got the award just because, like, he surprised me. I knew ahead of time, like, had his gut feeling based on his very minimal answers in the beginning. I was like, oh, shoot, he must be a virgin because, like, he looks very uncomfortable. I was very worried about him. And I didn't have the opportunity to check on him, you know, before he performed. So I didn't know what to expect. And then when he went up there and read that letter, I was just so moved by it and how just, you know, comfortable he was still pursuing me, given his beliefs and how just open and honest he was. Like, it literally, like, brought a tear to my eye.

And so he was so deserving of the award that day. I just think it was, like, so nice to watch, like, him being able to be vulnerable and be true to himself and not feel like he has to be something else. And know, like, who you are. And honestly, he gave himself a chance. And the fact that you, like, actually felt a connection with him as he was being open and vulnerable, I thought that was, like, so beautiful to see. Because, like, sometimes, I mean, if you think about it, oh, you know, a virgin going to date, like someone that's very open and, like, sex positive, it doesn't sound like it's like a recipe for success. However, there's so much more to him

and he's not saying, like, I'm not going to have, you know, sex with you ever. It's just like, I'm waiting for a certain time. So who knows? He could have been your person. Who knows? And let's just say, there are other ways to physically connect that are not met. Exactly. Exactly. No. And I like how it was portrayed. I feel like in the past there's been. such a stigma around virgins on the show, you know, like we saw with Colton's season where it, you know, I think overall like people own it, but they still like, you know, there's always people out there that will criticize and comment and say mean things, whatever they want to say. And I think that it was shown in a really great way where, I mean, at first I was like,

oh my gosh, God bless him. He looks so uncomfortable. And I just like wanted to hug him through the screen. But I think, as you said, Tasha, like he just kind of owned his. who he was and he wasn't ashamed and like yeah i'm sure overall the date made him feel weird but i don't think he was afraid to share that with you katie and i'm i'm actually glad that he was able to do it so early on that it didn't come as a major shock to you later on i think that would have just been worse for everyone involved absolutely yeah because you know like and again like i don't read spoilers i truly have no idea how far he goes but if he's somebody that you would have really fallen for and he would have told you this like a month or so in it probably could have

changed a lot of things in a different way so yeah it really reminded me of my entrance on mat season and i knew i was going to be myself and it could either send me home or keep me you know going and pursuing this and mike p said the same thing he's like i could either own it and risk possibly going home because she is sex positive or you know lying about who i really am and so i was just really proud of him for just, you know, owning it, embracing it. And yeah, you guys will see Mike and I move forward together. Right. Can't wait. Can't wait. Well, speaking of moving forward, that's not the only date you had this week. We obviously saw you go in your first one-on-one, which I really actually want to ask you about because we obviously saw that date go to Greg.

He also was the lucky recipient of your first impression rose. And I don't think, and I'm sure people will correct me if I'm wrong. We've ever seen somebody received the first rose and then also get the first one-on-one day. I feel like at least when I was Bachelorette, I was kind of told to steer away. They're like, don't put all your eggs in one basket and don't give it all away. Like you don't want the men to know you're like super, super into somebody. So was that a decision that you were just like, fuck it. I like him.

I'm going to do what I'm going to do and I want to spend more time with him. Or like how did that all transpire, I guess? Yeah. I knew the date was going to be sent around my dad. So it was a very important date. And Greg was someone I had a very early connection with just like right away. And so without really getting to know a lot of the guys, I was like, Greg's the best one at this time to go on this date with me. You know, and plus, you know, so shy and insecure. And I was like, I'm going to give him that validation and really get him to bring down his walls and get to know him better, you know? Because I didn't want that to be a problem going forward if he continued to be like shy and closed off. So he was the perfect one to go on the date with, although not knowing that he had also lost his dad. So it really was this, like, beautiful thing that I could never have predicted. Which I found really interesting watching because he actually waited to the dinner date to tell you that, you know, that he had also lost his dad as opposed to talking about it earlier in the day when you opened up to him. And so, like, did you feel like at that time, like you wish you would have known earlier? or did you feel like it was like the perfect time?

I do actually wish he told me during the day because as I'm telling him my story, I could tell there was something he wanted to say. He was holding back, right? Yeah, holding back. You know, but also as someone who lost a parent, if he's not ready to talk about it or doesn't want to get emotional in front of me,

then that's fine. But there was kind of a little bit of a roadblock at times when I would recognize there's something he's thinking about, but he wouldn't open up about it until that evening. And how did you feel once he did? Like, did you feel a sense of relief or just you related to him a little bit more? Oh, it was a huge moment for Greg and I because, you know, here he is getting emotional in front of me, which I know sometimes for men, that's hard.

And I was just letting him know, like, it's okay to cry and embrace your emotions. And for us to talk about, you know, him and his dad, and it was something I think he's been needing to do in general because it has only been two years. And it is a tough thing to still have to think about, you know, as he's moving forward wanting a family and children and marriage. Yeah. I got to say for somebody who, I mean, and we've talked about this before on, I think when we had you on Happy Hour, the first time around, you know, I can relate

to losing a parent. I lost my dad in 2009. And I think, like, it's never easy to talk about, especially in certain situations when you know basically the world and all these strangers that you don't know are going to hear your story. It's a really, really scary thing. And so I commend you for being able to put yourself in the space with not only Greg, but on the show, to be able to open up and share your story, because it's only going to bring out so many people who have gone through something similar with you or similar to you and who can relate to losing a parent or a loved one. I think it was a

really, really special moment that, like, just for me as a viewer, I feel so grateful to have been able to watch like you sit there and share that with him and I think too for Greg like you know I don't know him I can only imagine for him this being the first week ever coming on the show like he had didn't have a season under his belt to kind of know what to expect I think you felt like a safe haven that he could open up to which I think is really special and just shows your character and how important and just special and open you probably made him feel I think it was just a really special moment. It was a date that I don't think we see all that often on the show where you can actually bond over something so deep and real and raw and special. And so for anyone out there

who has gone through something similar, you know, reach out. I don't want to speak for you, Katie, but you can always reach out to me or I'm sure Katie at some point. But thank you for sharing that. And I hope we can see more in-depth conversations. like that like because I feel like it really bonded you and Greg in a way where I have in my notes after after he opened up at the dinner day dinner portion I was like done this is a done deal right like bonds you in such a crazy way that I was like this man is going far like he if he's not the one at the end of this he's going far because like the way that that you know like sadness and like hard heavy shit can connect people um you know I don't know I don't know I don't know

if you'll be able to do that with many of the other men, I guess we'll have to wait and see. But thank you, Katie, for sharing more of your story. I think it was really important for all of us viewers to see. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a moment where we could kind of show each other that we're there for each other at our lowest points. And yeah, it definitely bonded us for sure.

Were you, you know, you said you knew kind of going into that day what the date was going to be like. Was any part of you a little apprehensive knowing, that it was probably going to be a bit more tougher and it wasn't the, you know, let's go in a hot air balloon type day. Yeah, I wasn't sure how I was going to handle it. You know, in some ways it's like this really special moment and fun.

But Becca, I'm sure you can relate. Sometimes it just hits you when you least expect it. You know, so I really didn't know what to expect going into the date. You know, of course I want it to be light and fun and it's a very special date to me. But I didn't expect to kind of like open up. as emotional as Greg and I ended up being together. And I was just going to say, like, did you ever think that you could possibly relate to somebody on this level, on this journey?

I mean, I guess you could never know, but can you believe that actually happened? That was like your first impression, Rose. It was so quick, you know, like it's also my first one-on-one day ever as a bachelorette. And so for us to really utilize that time together, it's not a lot of time. And to move on the way that we did, we used every minute of that one-on-one date. And it really made a difference. Well, all I got to say is the men have some very stiff competition after that date. And that person who's with Greg.

I have high hopes, big expectations for Greg. Who knows? I'm always wrong. And every time I think how season's going to play out, it never goes my way. So I don't know. But moving on. So we have one more date, obviously, this week, which. was a lot more lighthearted, rugged.

The men did this buckle brawl where they, you know, rip off their shirts and they're in the mud. You know, I think the main takeaway from that date was all of the drama between Aaron and Cody, which we obviously saw you address and sent Cody home by the end of that night. When you sat down with Aaron, I mean, I know that you right away highlighted the fact that,

okay, there was some tension there. We all felt it. But did you expect him to share what he did with you? What Cody did with? You're saying what Aaron shared? Yeah, did you expect Aaron to share what he did with you, like in regards to Cody and like men not being here for the right reasons and being, you know, kind of sketchy?

I mean, I don't know if I ever have expectations because I don't know what to expect ever with any of them. When he did open up, though, I was thankful, you know, because he is looking out for me in our relationship. and if he has a problem, I want to know about it, you know? And I just love that he was very direct, which you'll see, you know, with Carl, who was not very direct. And I don't have time to play games, you know.

So I really did appreciate Aaron just being straightforward and not wasting any of my time and just letting me know what's up. Yeah. Yeah, I will say, I mean, you never know what to expect in the, you know, week by week, day by day, so much changes so quickly. I remember at times when I was in your position being like, it's too soon for this. It's too soon for the drama and for men to be fighting with other men.

But, you know, that's the show. Well, it really caught a lot of people off guard on night when they were like, when Aaron pulled Cody aside, it was like, I never liked you and I don't like you. It was just, everyone's like, what's happening here? I know that there's drama, obviously, but then we saw it down. Yeah. At least we had more context to what was actually going. on and why because I think the premiere night everyone's like what the heck is this guy just

cause it really cause drama okay well we have so much that's going to happen in these next couple weeks and obviously we're already now into week three coming up so I want you I mean I know you can't give much away but I want you to give us like a little bit of a teaser of what to expect what's coming up we did see in the previews for next week that Nick Viall is going to be hosting a date so can you give us any more about what's coming? Yeah, you know, the upcoming episode is going to be a pretty important conversation and I don't think it's really been highlighted before in this way. And I say that because it's a conversation that I want Batchar Nation to join in on. It's a very important one for men and

women to go through and understand. So I'm just really, really excited to have that opportunity to share because I got to do that with the men and it really made a difference. I can't wait. Now, I know you can't give away anything really, but is it a conversation that you had with Nick or that Nick then also had with the men? Like, what were we talking? I will say this. I, um, again, I never expect anything. And so I'm going through this day. I didn't know this conversation was going to happen. It's just in my heart, I was like, this is the time to share it. And it surprised everybody, um, including myself. But it really was transforming. for me on my journey and really barna me with those men who are there. Okay. Well, I can't wait to tune in, Katie. I know. I'm just like sitting back here, like being quiet. I don't know what to say because I don't want to allude to anything that it's going to, yeah, it's, it's impactful.

I'm going to say, Katie, you are a pro. I mean, I know that you've done your media rounds since the premiere and obviously when you were announced this bachelor, but you like give us just enough to want more, but without giving too much away. And now I know what it feels like because when I was on your side, I was like, ooh, ha ha, this is kind of fun. Like I can tease things, but without like telling anything. And now I'm like, I want more. God, give it to me, Katie, come on. Okay. I, I mean, I can't wait to see everything happen. I mean, overall, in your head and your heart, how are you doing like, you know, obviously you lived it and it's a different experience of watching it back? But like, overall, where are you at right now? Are you happy? Are you in a

good place. Yeah, I will say I'm happy, but I will also say watching these back is triggering at times. You know, you're reliving what was once a special moment and now is a distant memory. Yeah. So it's a little hard to kind of rego through this when you had just finally like healed from it and now you have to go all over it again. Is there any part that a lot of people don't understand. Truly. And it is difficult. Yeah. Is there. Is there? Is there, there anything that you have had to, I mean, maybe you haven't already, but you will, that you'll have to or want to warn your family and friends about. Like, I remember when I came back, I came, I came back home and I was like, okay, mom, just so you're aware, this happens in

like week seven or something that happens at the end, just so it's not a shocker to you. But have you had those sorts of conversations yet? Without giving too much away, everyone's going to see with hometown with my mom and my family there's nothing that can shock us so there's no warnings for them nothing can shock them oh this is something that just popped into my mind because obviously you didn't go to hometowns on mad season and i don't mean that as a jab at all i'm just saying like i didn't even think about it but so this is your first time with your family that they'll be filming with you and part of this you know the show if you will. What was that like for them? I mean, they're definitely out of their comfort zone,

you know, and a lot of people don't realize how vulnerable you have to be when you are going through this experience and talk about your emotions. And that's not something that my aunt is used to, you know, my mom, she's just an emotional mess. And so I think sometimes they also lead with humor to kind of make up for their nervousness. And that's the part I'm actually dreading watching back is like, what did they say to these men? I can't wait. It's good. It's good. be so good. It's going to be so good. Well, Heather McDonald

was our guest on Happy Hour last week and she you had made a comment in the week of the premiere and you were like, you know, if these met, I don't remember what the context was around. I think it was around like being open about like sexuality and you were like if they can't keep up with me, they can't keep up

with my family and heaven was like, what's going on with the family? But I took it as just like you guys are all very, very open and it's not a taboo or like frowned upon to talk about like your sexuality and like owning that. Is that correct? Is that kind of what you meant? Yes. I'm glad you picked up on it and I realized later how weird it did sound to people who didn't understand. But yeah, it's not uncommon for us to be a family gathering and talking about sexual experiences or like making jokes about sex. You know,

like we're just very open and comfortable with each other. And so if someone was to be uncomfortable with that, they would just dread family gatherings then. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I want to to meet your family. They sound like a fun bunch. They're a fun bunch. I mean, I've heard some stories and it's a wild time. I love it. Okay, we're going to get into a game and I have a couple more questions, but one thing that I wanted to ask that Tisha, I don't remember what you said earlier. Yeah. But was there any point through, like, you know, going back to rewatching the season now, and there's so much that you've missed and that you're like learning about the guys and hearing what they actually have to say when you're not around.

For Tasha and Kaelin, was there any point where they had to come to you and warn you about certain things or be like, hey, you know, maybe ask this guy this sort of question or bring this up to somebody or this is kind of what's going down, be aware of it, that type of thing? No, what I loved is I was still able to go through this experience in my own way in the most, you know, naturally you can. You know, my girlfriends in the real world wouldn't know about what's going on with my boyfriends. So Tasha and Caitlin kind of stepped away in terms of that. But when I reached out for advice or they saw me struggling, then that's when you get to see us all kind of have our

girl moments and really support each other. So not once did they ever kind of give me any like insider scoop to anything. I love that though. I love that you ask that back up because it's so true, like we were there to just help mentor her and like navigate her. We're not trying to like persuade her to go any other way. We're not producers. We're not. So not that they do that, but it's just like we're not running the show or doing anything behind the scenes like that. We were strictly there just to help her. So if she was going through something, it was like having a difficult decision or a difficult time, like navigating through emotions, like she just called on us.

And then we helped her just like, you would with your normal girlfriends. Yeah. But it wasn't like, hey, by the way, I stalked this guy's Instagram and there's four girls in his last post. You know what I mean? If I was Katie, I would be, I would have on my hotel phone, you guys on speech. dial and be like, hi, can you come over and help me pick out my outfit or like, I just need some girl time.

Literally freaking out. I would be calling you girls every single day. No, not the randoms. We're like, why is Kitty not calling us today? It's like she's dating and busy and stuff. Like, she was occupied. Okay, I'm going to ask both of you this question. What is the strangest thing that you learned about each other throughout this season?

About you too. I don't know if she learned too much about me. This was about her. It wasn't about me. I learned something about Tachia. Oh, God, what? Oh, no. Tasha has this alter ego when she wants to really loosen up.

She's a good time. What's her name? What's her name? We're actually trying to figure that out. I don't know. We were trying to figure out this time what that little alter ego is. But she definitely does come out. You are actually very right with that.

I got to meet this. He has a really fun drink she likes to drink to loosen up as well. She made it for me. It has IPA beer and what else is it? Gin. There it is. Great fruit, June. That's what it is.

That sounds horrible. I actually said the same thing, but it's actually really good. It's something, it's really refreshing in the summer, I feel like. It would be a really good drink for the summer. like if you're on the boat it like hits you right i don't know how to explain it oh my gosh you just go to drink before you judge it okay i'm gonna i'll give it a go but only if you make it for me katie i agree she when we're all together okay if wait does it have a name okay here's the thing i thought i found it the first time i thought it was called like the

the elvis presley like googled it and it's not really like a known thing um The Elvitz Presley, I guess. No, no, no, we're going to rename it. We're going to, yeah, we're going to rename it. Katie's lucky, lucky number 18 or something. Or just like the New Mexico or like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Yeah.

Interesting. Like that. Okay. It's pretty good. All right. I'm going to have to give it a world one of these days, Katie, when I make you hang out with me. Um, okay. So we want to get into this little fun game that we have.

But before that. you know the deal we asked you this the first time around and without giving anything no spoilers away from your season so far what has been your rose of the season and what has been your thorn the rose oh i know this is going to sound cheesy but like the men like i can't say enough and you guys are just going to see it they're so good there's such a good group overall all. Yes, there's some rotten apples, but overall, America's going to fall in love all of them. I mean, there's always some rotten apples. That's to be expected. But, and then your thorn.

Ooh, up to this point. There's plenty. I mean, the drama, like the petty drama, like that seems so pointless and like annoying. You know, that's why Cody went home right away. I was like, I'm not even invested you to care to figure out if this is true or not like bye right yeah just the drama yeah well i can't wait to see it all play out um okay last question here if you could give us a one sentence teaser of what's to come this season what would it be i mean it's hard because like there's so many different ways I can go there's so much believe me I just had a press day they all kept asking you like I don't know what actually to say because so much goes on did you not see the teaser

like it's wild okay between the two of you we can come up with something okay no this is all katy um I mean I would say it's um I've been saying it's a wild ride you know I've really described it as like a roller coaster of just like slowly going up up up and then it just drops. Oh, shit. What? You can't just say that. This is happy. That's like, that's like fun. That's like scary. That's like thrilling. It's everything. That's truly what the end is like for me.

You know, I definitely say that it's, I tell people to buckle up because it's going to get really freaking good. I say that there's so much that is going to be unexpected, but also there's a lot of first. And I know you've said this as well. But there's a lot of first this season that I don't think people are going to have seen before. And so that's what I leave it at. Maybe let's not do this thing.

But like maybe let's do this, this. And then maybe like around and then like, you know, space mountain. How about Space Mountain? You're like, eyes are covered. You don't know what you're doing. Oh, yeah. I don't mean it in like a bad way.

It's just like that first feeling of like, and then you're like, yay. You know? It's roller coaster. Yeah, okay. Okay, I like the roller coaster analogy better than I'm thinking of like the Tower of Terror where it just like drops me like plunge to the bottom and everyone's just like what? Well, I mean, she went straight up like, hi, and then, no.

Yeah. I know I was watching her body language as you're reenacting this and I'm like, um, are we okay? I'm doing an ad for better help on the podcast. I mean, oh, God. Do we talk it out? Um, okay, okay. So we always love to play our games,

our little, you know, Bachelorette games, if you will, and you are officially our newest bachelorette. So Tasia, do you want to kind of explain how this is going to work? Yes. Okay, so this is a game of this or that. So this is a situation that only the Bachelet knows how to handle. So we're going to give you a situation of this or that

and you have to pick one of the other, but it's more of like a rapid fire kind of thing. So you can't really give it too much thought. So I'll start off. Yes. Okay. Okay. Would you rather send someone home at a row ceremony or on a one-on-one date?

A one-on-one date. Ooh. Damn. That's brutal. I know. Cut-throat. Katie. I like it.

All right. Okay. Kiss everyone on the first night or have just a few meaningful kisses. Kiss everyone. Love it. I love it. My girl. That's why she's bachelorette.

Break up with someone or brief. Let me start that over. Break up with someone or be broken up with. Break up with someone. That's a tough one. Honestly, they both really suck. Okay. Would you rather watch fireworks or have a surprise concert?

Surprise concert. Okay. Would you rather have a cat limo arrival or a ball pit limo arrival? I know. That was kind of unfair. Man, I don't know. I know. Oh, cat limo arrival.

I was going to say, don't, don't do her and call her dirty like that by saying the balls. I will say the balls looked pretty fun, though. Okay. They were pretty. Wait, Tasha, did you and Caitlin playing them later? No, which is so, we were busy that night. Okay, we had a lot of men to. You had a lot more on your mind.

I get it. I get it. Yes. Okay, Katie. Would you rather take your men on a physical date or a date where they have to perform. A date where they have to perform. Yeah. Okay. Would you rather have myself and Caitlin on a group date or at a rose ceremony? Group date, for sure. We're fine girls. Always so much fun. Would you rather wear an extravagant dress or something more simple? Something more simple.

That's my girl. That's my girl. Okay. Would you rather share something personal with a guy or have them share something personal with you. I'd rather have them share something personal with me. Good answer too. Okay, this is not part of the game. I just have a question to go off of that. Did you ever feel like when you were about Charette, were the guys good at first about asking you a lot of questions back?

Because I know you are there to get to know them very quickly because there's so many of them. But did you ever feel like they just assumed they already knew so much about you and didn't even care or like need to ask you? so interesting yeah there were definitely some that were so focused on introducing who they were you know trying to like win my heart because they're a B and C but then there's definitely a lot of them who took the time to kind of ask me similar questions and actually engage in conversation

and those are the men who are going to go further because we are bonding back and forth and not just one-sided conversation yes who god I love you Katie okay last question for the game would you rather give a guy a group date rose or the first rose at a ceremony Ooh, root date road. All righty. Katie, you are great. You, like, so far, it has been such a pleasure to watch you.

You've just, like, I feel like you've just been yourself and you've owned it and you articulate what you're looking for so well. Like, so as a viewer, I totally understand you. I don't have any questions around you of like, why is she doing this or saying this? It doesn't make sense. And so, I mean, I know we've only seen two episodes. I keep saying this like I can't wait to see week by week what happens because I am so excited to watch your journey and we truly like want nothing but the best for you. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it.

It has been so fun having you on. I really wish we could keep chatting and I wish we could keep chatting like outside of the podcast because I feel like I can get more dirt from the two of you together. But I understand you are a very busy wanted woman these days. But where are you at right now? Are you back home? Are you able to, like, kind of chill and relax for a little bit? Yeah, I'm home and kind of taking it literally day by day. Like, I don't even know what next week holds for me. That's how my life feels right now. It's going to be like that for a while, I think.

It's fun. Just, just hang on in there. If you need us, you obviously know we're here for you. Oh, yeah. Thank you, lady. Before we let you go, though, I know, like, your world is constantly changing and evolving. And like you said, you'd never know what to expect. So is there anything that you want to?

ask either of us right now in like this next chapter of what to expect or any advice that we can maybe hopefully give you yeah you know I think I will have questions but I told myself to wait till the halfway mark like right now I'm just soaking it in once the like chaotic part of that kind of settled that's what I'm like all right game plan help me out ladies where do I go what do I do how does this work what's happening okay well we'll be here whenever you are ready and you I'm sure our listeners will ask if you are part of the group chat yes you are part of the bachelor's crew chat we added you before your season started and all of the girls are so thrilled to have you you know join this little girl gang that we have going on um so yeah we're always here

for everything but thank you for taking time out of your crazy schedule today to be with us yeah thank you ladies i appreciate it absolutely i'm sure we'll talk soon but hang in there and we will talk later yeah thank you and you'll look gorgeous by the way of course she does of course does. Katie is a very strong and independent woman and I think that's the one thing that even like I learned from her is just like she's very confident in what she wants and I think it's very admirable, you know? But also that's the one thing that I did tell her. I'm like, I know you like to control the situation. You have a very good like rain on your life right now. But this is like the one time in your life where you have to let go. And I'm telling you.

you it's okay to let go like we're not going to let you fall so that was something that you know we talked about week after week just because it's a scary time but it's just like such it's it's it's scary and exciting and like it's it's nerve-wracking and it's you're vulnerable um you're happy but you're sad and like it's there's so many emotions so um yeah yeah it gets intense which is probably why she was like it was a roller coaster of emotions i think for katie she came in. And it seems like she doesn't need a man to complete her. Like you said, she seems so independent, you know, she has this great life back at home. She just wanted somebody to kind of click and fit into the puzzle that she has. And so at times, it's hard when you're like, no, I'm good. I'm fine.

Like, I don't need a man, but I want a man to really just like throw your hands up and be like, you know, Jesus take the wheel right now. It's not the easiest thing. So I, again, like, that's why I'm glad that she had you and Caitlin because who better to give that advice and be alongside her than to former bachelorette. You know, you did just go through it. And so, yeah, it's good. I definitely, like, I hope we can have her back on either later on or at the finale, the season finale, because, like, I would just love to hear more, you know, I can tell.

It's such a weird space. Like, I remember doing the press rounds right when your season starts and, like I said, you can't give too much away. You can only tease so much And she's very good about Leaving us wanting more And not giving it away So that's why I definitely want to have her back

So we can really like let it all out there And talk about everything Give us her real opinions and thoughts and whatnot I mean she is right now But it's tough It's a tough thing to navigate Yeah for sure So this has been so much fun Tasha

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