Bachelor Happy Hour - Backstage at Women Tell All

Episode Date: March 3, 2020

Right after leaving the stage with Chris Harrison, Peter and the women are talking to “Bachelor Happy Hour.” Rachel sits down with Alayah, Kelsey, Lexi, Shiann, Sydney, Tammy and Victoria P. to talk about the endless drama this season and get their predictions on how it will all end for Peter.Then, Peter on Madison revealing so late in the process that she is saving herself for marriage. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.Simple Health: simplehealth.com/bachelorThird Love: thirdlove.com/bachelorGrove Collaborative: grove.co/bachelorSee omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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podcast. What's up, everybody? We have a very, very special Bachelor Happy Hour. I am sitting here. I feel like I should whisper you guys. I'm sitting here backstage. It's women tell all. I've just watched the whole thing.

The ladies will be coming through, and you know I've got a ton of questions to ask. We're going to get to it. Unfortunately, my girl Becca, she's not going to be here tonight, but that's okay. I told her I would pick up the. the pieces. She wants to be here. She's here in spirit. She even sent in some questions for me. So I'm going to ask Becca's questions. I'm not going to talk anymore because the first lady is coming up right now. First up to join me on the podcast. I'm so excited to talk to you. It's Sydney. Yes. How are you? First of all, you look stunning. Let me just know, let me just give out,

dish out compliments. You look amazing. Thank you. I appreciate that. But how do you feel? You know what? I feel like a certain calmness right now. I do. I feel like, I feel like, A lot has happened over, you know, an extended amount of time and I finally have had a little second to breathe and for everything to finally happen and to move on, you know? Yeah. No, I mean, today was a lot. It was a lot. But, like, for different reasons because, one, you know, you're, like, facing the drawing. It's a reunion show, you know?

Like, we all love reunion shows because it's like it all comes to a head. You've seen what everyone's saying at ITMs. Right. To Peter, all that good, bad stuff. Yeah. But, like, it's the first time y'all are seeing each other and talking. Then you have to see Peter for the first time. And it's been three months-ish.

Then we had this conversation that needed to be had that honestly you spearheaded. Thank you. And no, thank you. It's because of you, though. No, it's not because we have to give credit where credit is due because, you know, we had the conversation where we talked about race. It was uncomfortable, but it was necessary. And I don't know if you guys know this, but, you know, Sidney and I had a conversation

because of a lot of hate that she was receiving. And I am one to brush things under the rug. I'm like, okay, I get a message, delete, move on. But that's not what everybody does. And I'm acting like it's not an issue and it's a problem. And it was you who made me say, you know what? It is a problem. And we need to talk about it.

So how did you feel having that conversation? Right. So when we had our conversation, I was just, you know, we were just talking about what, you know, looking up to you and what you had to go through, you know, as the first African American Batch the Red. And being in this, it's hard for women of color. It's hard. And I'll say that because I've lived this my whole life. And then now it being on such a huge scale, I've had to deal with, you know, if someone doesn't like you, they go as low as they possibly can.

And the lowest you can go is someone's race, you know? So having this opportunity to talk about something that I'm so passionate about and something that I saw in this. And I hope that changes meant everything to me. And I just feel like it's my duty for girls that do look like us to know that you can do this, number one, and number two, you can rise above the hate. Yeah, absolutely. See, and that's, thank you. Thank you for that.

How did it feel when the women came running over to you to comfort you after seeing some of those text messages that they know that were directed towards, not, I keep saying text messages, those DMs, comments that were directed to you? You know, a lot of people will say about the season that we didn't love each other and that we were always so catty and against each other. I still question it. But in that moment, it was a moment that I had felt nothing but love from those women. And the support and the love means so much to me. And, you know, all the little he he, yeah, yas that were done in the past, like that made up for everything. Because, you know, when you're hurt, you just, that love just means everything. And I think that's important for everyone else to see because we do see.

You know, your season has gotten, and I've talked about it on the podcast, your season has gotten a lot of heat for the girls being. so catty and mean girls and just not having that unity and sisterhood but on the stage in that moment we saw the sisterhood and it's funny because there was a point today in women tell all where Lexi said you guys don't know this but like we all love each other

and I remember thinking okay Lexi yeah but in that moment I saw the love someone's hurting like I have hurt through this and the things that they actually finally saw that was happening to me nothing but love nothing but love was received and and I love that.

Yes, I did. I loved it too. And I think your mess, not think I know, your message resonated with me. I'm sure it's going to resonate with everybody who saw it. And I just hope that because of what you spearheaded, that we can all be better and do better and just hold each other accountable. I want to be that voice. And, you know, this opportunity and this to say something about it and have you there to just, like, support me has meant so much to me. And I do.

I hope that it goes forward and we stop this because, you know, we just. need to love each other a little bit more. Yes, we do. Yeah. So let's talk about moving forward. Okay, so you just survived, women tell all. I survived. What is next? Paradise. Summer games? Who knows, Rachel? Are you interested in it? I want to find love. I know that. So whichever way that may happen, I'm open to it. Skeptical, of course, just because of all the hate. But hopefully it gets better.

And you know, who knows? Who knows it's going to happen? Well, you have a support system around you. So I think, like, as long as you have that strong circle, You can combat that hate, even on the worst days. But I know you're a hot commodity because this Bachelors Nation world is small and the people are talking. Oh, God. And they want to know if you're going to be out there on the beach or wherever summer games may be. You can't give us a hit of something. I'll say, like, I do want to find love in whatever way that may be.

We'll have to see. So what do you think about the ending? I have to get your opinion on this because we saw tonight that Madison is clearly struggling. We saw Victoria F goes home and now it's down to Madison and Hannah knowing everything that came out because I heard your response to Madison's

the decisions that she has made as she's navigated this journey. But how do you really feel? Because all y'all gave really politically correct answers and I happen to think I think what you said is right about her being true to her beliefs and her standards and the commitment that she's made that's beautiful.

But you find no issue in the timing of it all? I, you know, I will say, I think she may, it may have been in her best interest to speak about it before she did. Okay. I think she waited to the absolute last second and that rubs some people the wrong way. I thought if she looking back now, I think she would have even brought it up before she did. But in that I will say that I, Madison is who she says she is.

I believe that. She's not going to waver. no matter if there's a fantasy suite or not, Madison's not going to do that. And she holds herself to what she's always been, you know, what she's always been, you know, lived her whole life. So what do you think about someone coming on the show? Like, let's just be honest.

And I feel like I'm a Christian. Yeah. Let's just be honest, the bachelor isn't like, you know, standing on biblical standards. So what do you think about someone who comes on the show, knowing how the show is and then comes all the way to the end? You know, possibly taking somebody else's place and potentially may leave for that same reason. Like, do you think that's fair?

Do you think that's selfish? I don't think it's selfish. I think that Madison, like I said, should have just brought it up before she did, and it would have gone a little bit better. Yes, we know the show. It's not, you know, sex is involved in this show. It's not a secret. Yeah. And her knowing her, you know, views on that.

it's if, you know, it's one of those situations where it's just like, what are you going to do? You know, you're in this position, you've gotten this far, you love this man, and there's certain steps that are going to be made with other women, and however you feel about it, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. But I don't think that she put him in a situation to make a decision. She was just like, hey, this is how I feel about it. Take it or leave it, but this is how I'm going to feel no matter what happens, you know? Okay. Well, what do you think is going to happen? Because we don't know. Apparently, according to Chris, neither is Peter.

I don't know what that means. know what, Peter has had a reputation for not being able to make decisions. So I think it's a case of like he hasn't made his decision yet. As in like between the women? Yeah, like they're saying, you know, like he is unspoiled, like it can't be unspoiled. Well, how can it not be unspoiled? Maybe he hasn't even decided. Who knows? Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate you. And thank you for what you did tonight. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Next in the hot seat is Sheehan, which I am so excited to talk to you because I feel like on the season, we didn't see much

but first of all congratulations for surviving women tell all that's a feat in itself but you were talking you were getting into it you and Lexi had some tips I don't want to get all messy

but I'm just saying it was nice because I think we saw you very quiet on the show so how did it feel tonight sitting up there on stage and really getting to express what this journey was for you

it was honestly so on the show I was a lot more quiet I didn't want to get involved in the drama because I was there to find my person. I wasn't there to start stuff, be in stuff. Like, I don't want it.

But then, you know, that doesn't mean I don't have my feelings about situations. Right. And so, you know, I'm like, okay, at the toe, like, I need to express how I feel because I didn't express any of that when I was on the show or, you know,

nothing was shown. And so that's kind of, yeah, that's kind of why tonight I just took it. And I was like, look, these are the situations and this is, this is like a real thing.

Oh, I was here for. Yeah, I said, please be quiet. so she can speak. Please. Yeah. Yeah. So you and I were talking just a bit

before we got on the mic for Bachelor Happy Hour. So when Peter came to the show, the only time we've had him on. Actually, no, I lie. We've had him on twice. So when Peter actually came in the flesh to Bachelor Happy Hour,

he revealed that he didn't pick any of the flight attendants. He sat home three flight attendants the first night. But then he said there was one that revealed herself in a very very interesting way. And we never saw that on the show.

So is there something that you want to tell us that we don't know? So I, yes, I used to be a flight attendant. Okay. She's the one, guys. It's far. Surprise. Yeah, so I used to be a flight attendant. It was a couple years back.

But after night one, and I realized he sent all of them home, I was like, uh-uh. Like, I'm keeping that a little. Like, I got to build a relationship first before I, like, like, do you play chess? because you were playing chess and you were winning because the three of them was at home and I was like

and so when I told him like that I was a flight attendant it was in that kind of dramatic scene so we were sitting there we're having our conversation and I was like how are you

doing good okay cool but there's something I need to tell you and he's like what and I was like and I like started like kind of having

like a mini panic attack and it's on my chest like I've been laying in bed staying up late about this like it's I just I don't want you to think anything

different about me and he's like Jan what like you're really scaring me and I'm like I take this long break and he's like Jan tell me and I look up at him and I'm just like I used to be a flight attendant he's like are you freaking kidding me he like jumped back in his scene he's like oh my god you scared the crap out of me I thought it was something else and we just laughed and like talked about flying it well he's still talking about it because he loves it he was excited to tell us I DM him the other day because I'm like who is this mystery flight attendant and when he told me it was you. I was like, are you kidding me? And he's so upset that that did make the cut.

It was so great. Like, I'm so sad that didn't show because there was a lot of me crying. And I was like, and that was like one moment where I was like, oh, they're going to show this and everyone's going to be like, yeah. And they didn't even show it. I was like, great. Okay, fine. Do you feel like you have any regrets? Because it's one thing to be in it all. Yes. And then you go home and then you watch where you were a part of it and then so much more of it back.

Do you feel like you have any regrets from this season? I definitely could have been more. aggressive. I, you know, it's hard when you're on the show. You try, but that doesn't mean you get your way. Yeah. And I definitely did try, but I could have been more like, no. Like, I need this. I'm going, you know, go, go, go, rather than being like, no, and be like, okay. Like, yeah, I should have been more aggressive. And that's kind of one thing. Like, I definitely wish I could have done more. Well, I can see why you didn't want to be aggressive because there was a lot of aggressive behavior and I'm not really I'm not a person to just be naggy like that I'm just not like I will put forth the effort but I'm not one to just be in your face all the time go go go go you know so that was something that that was challenging for me who are you close with from your season I'm actually really close with Tammy me and Tammy are super close I am so actually happy that you said that because I love her so much watching tonight it seems like

Who's friends with, I think at one point I saw you kind of like consoling Tammy, but I was like, whose friends with Tammy just seemed to be so much build up and attack on Tammy? And I get it. Tammy made some mistakes. She did throughout the show. Everybody did. Right. And I think, you know, I relate to someone with a strong personality and a lot of opinions. And, you know, sometimes we navigate things differently. But it's really nice to hear that Tammy actually has a friend in the house. Like we talk every day. Well, can I tell us why you like about Tammy Because it seems like I feel like it's It's lost in some of the drama The thing is is that Regardless of And it's with that personality Like regardless of you

She gives you the tough love when you hate it She's there when you're sad, when you're upset If you need someone to talk to you, she listens But then she kind of brings you back And she's like, okay, have your moment But also like come back and you're better than that And move forward Don't like listen to the hate, don't do this

And that's It's a great thing to have like yes, she's tender in those moments of where you need a good friend and you just need a shoulder cry on. But like she also builds your backbone. And she's like, don't be weepy. Like, come on. And I think we're hot. And we all need that friend. And I think we do see that. It's just so much happened after that we forgot because let's not forget during Champagne Gate, it was Tammy who was comforting Kelsey and who was checking to see if everyone's okay. And she was like, Hannah Ann said she didn't. And she was really trying to be the mediator and dissolve the situation and that kind of find a resolution to it.

And she, I mean, yes, she's strong in her words. And some people just can't take that for what it is without feeling attacked. And I don't think it ever comes in a place of being attacked. I think that some of those moments, you know, between Kelsey and Tammy and Sydney and Tammy or whatever at that in Costa Rica, it was just, I feel like Tammy was feeling attacked. And then that's when it just came out. Yeah. You know, and I, and that can happen to anybody. I don't think that's a fault on Tammy.

I told her, I was like, you could have handled that a little bit better. Right. But that's with anyone into the learning experience. Yes. So you watch it back and you're like, yeah, that wasn't right. I should have said it this way. And you think she learned from this experience? Definitely.

Good. Good for her. So before I let you go, I have to ask you because we have no idea what happens at the end of this. This is the first, not a first that I necessarily like. I want to know what's happening. So what happens at the end of it? What do you think happens at the end of this season? God, I truly don't know

And I've tried to figure I've tried to like make equations I'm like writing it down like Madison does this and then Hannah Ann does this and then Peter goes home And Barb's crying about Matt Like I like literally written it down and try to figure out The answer

I don't know because every time I see the episode I'm like oh no it's this and my whole thing changes And when you were saying that all I saw was the meme Where the woman has the equation and the chalkboard behind her and she just looks more confused and more that was literally that's me it's just I that's all of us yeah it's all of us well thank you so much for being here it's so nice to meet you oh okay this is my first podcast and I'm so honored I love me some more time we're just like oh my god oh well thank you so much for being here not everybody gets to come in the hot seat

so it's such a pleasure to meet you have fun tonight because I know the after Party's going to be popping. I'm ready for the pizza. Oh, oh, I didn't know there was pizza. Okay, let's go. Thank you. I just want to say how fabulous Alleya looks. Listen, this sequence suit, and I'm not a big sequence. Actually, I lie, ever since being Thassette, it's what I adore. You can't avoid the sparkle. This looks amazing. Thank you. What size are you? You can buy whatever you want, girl. I can't fit the same thing. Listen, I keep telling everyone this. You survived women tell all. I feel like a lot of people had eyes on you, questions about what kind of went down. There just seems to be so much in the air.

Do you feel like you got everything out that you needed to say tonight? I feel like I did. I mean, it's hard being in that. I know that I was really kind of dreading going to women to all because I'm not an aggressive personality. And obviously, we have a lot of aggressive personalities in our group. And so I was really nervous that I wasn't going to be able to say what I had to say. But now that it's all over and I can breathe again, I feel. pretty good about how everything happened well people didn't attack you no it wasn't about you honestly

it seemed to be more of more of the heat was on victoria victoria p yeah i mean i feel like there was a lot of like i said there's a lot of miscommunication there's a lot of lack of communication and i feel like a lot of america and the girls in the house had questions but i do feel like we're able to kind of address those do you because i feel like i still have some questions like for example did you really know each other longer than three hours yes okay That just seems to be the biggest one. Yeah. To sum up, when you heard watching back the conversation that Victoria had with Peter about you,

Victoria P, sorry, had with Peter about you, sum up your reaction in one word. I mean, I was taken aback for sure. I wasn't expecting that. It was hard to watch for me because coming into this, I did expect for us to have each other's back. but I understand that when you're asked a question and you have a feeling, you're going to express that. You're going to be honest about your feelings. Again, I just feel like it was a lack of communication going into that. And I wish that we would have had the chance to talk about it before Peter asked about it.

Yeah. But we didn't. And that's unfortunate. Where do you guys stand today? I mean, we kind of just respect each other. Like, we understand that we didn't communicate enough through this and that we want to both move past this. We don't want this to define us, to find the, group of friends that we're in and we just want to kind of have like a mutual respect for each other

as people. That's good. Yeah. That's very adult and mature of you. Yes. There doesn't have to be a winner, loser or right or wrong. We just respect each other's opinions. Right. So I have an important question for you that I know America wants to know. Do you have a job? Three jobs. And please tell them what, tell people what they are. Oh, I didn't realize my occupation would be so interested. It didn't either. So the obvious, I'm an orthodontic assistant. I model professionally, and I own a boutique. Good for you, girl.

Tell people where they can find the boutique. I mean, you might as well pub it on the podcast. I mean, shameless plug. No, do it. It's freebies. I got these earrings from my boutique. So we have cute accessories. It's me, my mom, and my sister.

We run it together. Good for you. So what's next? Well, first, no, I like to ask this question because I've been in your shoes before. I know what it's like to have a sisterhood in the house. And you guys got a lot of heat. for not having a sisterhood. It just seems to be a lot of cattyness.

But then Lexi was like, well, we all love each other. So who were you close with in the house? Isn't it obvious Savannah? Savannah's my girl. Man, Savannah had your back. We all need a Savannah in our life. But I feel like as Texas girls, we just have each other's backs like that.

Because Savannah's from Texas too, right? Yep. Did you all know each other before? No, we didn't. So we met on the show. We already have plans to go to the rodeo together. I mean, if you're more texted than that. Lizzo performing at the rodeo?

Is she? No, Lizzo's performing at the rodeo. I'm almost, oh my God, I need to see her. I am almost positive because the rodeo is what, like next week or something like that? It's in a couple of weeks. The Houston rodeos next month. Next month. The Houston rodeo, I'm pretty sure Lizzo is performing because she used to live in Houston.

She's so good. Yeah, I am obsessed with her. Yeah, I'm glad I could do you that favor. Thank you. Thank you for that. So what's next for you? Paradise, Summer Games. Tell me.

Everybody's asking. I don't think I'm fit enough for summer games. I'm not going to lie. I'm the cheerleader on the sideline. Cheerleading is a sport. It's totally a sport. Do you watch cheer? Gosh, no.

I was like, I could Matt talk you. That's a thing. Oh, really? My sister did cheerleader. Okay. So I understand like the sideline lingo. But I don't know. Everybody keeps asking you about Paradise and genuinely, I have no idea.

I feel like that's one of those decisions I'm just going to make when the question come. You are so put together. And I get it. Like, I can be, I wasn't in Pagit's, but like just being an attorney and like feeling you like you have to be on. You know how to turn it on in an appropriate situation. Yes. I know, yes. I know how to put on a show as well.

I get it. So my question to you is, what do you do to like let your hair down and go crazy? Like, are you ever not put together? Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, did you see me on the kitchen counter with my glass. Yeah, let's talk about that. I was very drunk about that.

Yeah, let's talk about that. I was really bored. Those are the best moments. It was so fun. I had the best day that day until everything kind of fell apart. But I was just bored. And I was like, you know what? I've been in this house.

for three days, I'm going to get drunk tonight. And I'm going to have some pizza and some cookies. And one thing led to another, I found the pilot's hat. And next thing you know, I'm on the counter talking about the Mile High Club. I don't, it just happened. Well, you know what? You want me to share a secret with you? One day, we were really, like, had nothing to do.

You know how it is. Like, when you don't have a date and you're like, okay, well, like, drink, we'll play games, whatever. We started talking about twerking. I feel like twerking was, like, so big back then. And I was like, do you know how to twerk on the wall? And so we taught everybody how to twirling. on the wall. Like that was like our thing. Yeah. I don't know who I would ever twerk on the. I've never even done it for my husband. Maybe you need to be like it. Apparently that night. After listening to this,

he's going to be like, baby. I know what happened. You know what? I used to joke and say, the reason we're getting roses is because we're like, remember that night that we were all twerking on the wall? Oh yeah, that's what we do in our one-on-one time. No, it'd be so bad in the best way. Oh my gosh, your nose are like mine. Twins. You guys, we're having a moment here. You can't see it, but we're having a moment. There's something deep-rooted and Texas spirit. Yeah. Right?

It's just a thing. You've seen somebody from Texas. You're like, yeah. I got you, girl. I feel you. I feel you. I feel like you want to clear up. Oh, my gosh.

Yes. I listened to your podcast. Oh, when I called you a liar? Everybody does it. It's just the thing. So Texas Longhorn. Being my spirit animal. I go.

Bebo-Cast straight. You're like, bebo. And I went to a game shortly after listening. I'm like, yeah, he's boring. Never mind. It's a koala. My new spirit animal is a koala. So you changed it because of what I said?

At first I was like, yeah, Texas pride, longhorns. Then I'm like, no, yeah, he's boring. Did you go to Texas? No, I'm just a fan. Well, you're close enough there, except for the time that he almost tried to run over the dog. That was so great. That's you. That's your spirit animal.

I'm bevo against Georgia. That's right. George Bulldogs. Yeah, Georgia Bulldogs. Okay, well, thank you so much for being here. And I just wish you the best on your journey. We hope to see you on something else. We'll see.

We want more of you in the pilot had trunk on top of the counter. Hey. We know she's in there. We know she's in there. Dashikar, fans, I am sitting in front of me with a mouthful of pizza. Kelsey. Kelsey, welcome to the show. Thank you.

I'm trying to think of where I want to start with you. Just bring it all. I'm ready for it. Well, you survived women tell all. That's what I say. That's an honor in itself. How do you think it went? How do you think you did?

I think for the most part, I did. it okay. You know, I'm somebody that can embrace my flaws. I can own up to when I was in the wrong and just make humor of it and that's what I tried to do.

The thing about me is I did express to the girls in the house how I felt about them. I didn't talk crap in the interviews. It's a rare, it's a rare characteristic. I knew, people knew how I felt about them going into it and we had most of everything

hashed out. Yeah. I think the girls that didn't do that were a little bit more scared. So for me, you're just kind of like, all right, let's see what other opinion. I've said everything I need to say. That's a rare thing. I'm like that too. I'm very confrontational.

That's why I was controversial in the house. Oh, because you said stuff? I think so, because a lot of the girls, you know, would kind of say stuff a little bit, but then in their interviews, they would say more. Mm-hmm. So then it kind of got a little bit more controversial at the women to all. Yeah. I was talking to Cheyenne, because she said she's really close to Tammy, and I, you know, I was thinking about this.

And I'm like, what went wrong? Because that night at Champaign Gate, she was the one who was like right there with you. But did you see her interviews? Not at that point. They turned later. But no, if you actually paid attention, because I was, I was paying attention. She was talking about how crazy I was in that moment, how Peter needed to know and all this. stuff. So she was already in the champagne

moment. But it was a crazy moment, Kelsey. Oh, obviously. It was I went bad shit. Let's be honest. Granted, I laughed. And I actually took up for you on the podcast because I was like she's not a bully. I mean, I said it was crazy. But I was like, you weren't a bully in that moment and I hate when that

word is so flippily used. I was bullied in high school. She cursed her out. But she didn't bully her. But I think in Hannah Ann knows this. The reason I was so heated in that moment was because if she would have just left me alone. I didn't

go up to her and like continue to be mean. When did you all become friends? Honestly, it was on our way down to Costa Rica on the plane. Her and I sat next to each other both times,

which never happened. It was like this rare god sent thing. And her and I just talked everything out. And it was nice because it was off camera. I know the viewers want to see that, but I think even if we did it on camera, it wouldn't have really been shown and maybe

wouldn't have been shown and people wouldn't have really cared because there was so much trauma going on well I appreciated it actually and I didn't notice it at first it was Becca my co-host who couldn't be here today shout out to Becca she noticed it how you when Hannah Ann came back from what was it a 3-on-1, 2-on-1 something like that you ran up to her and you hugged her and we were like

see we can't all get along but what's funny is people it's this is the hard thing about the show because my drama happened so early on and that was really the first thing people saw of me that was their first impression of me so it was like me trying to climb a mountain to get people to see who I really was

whereas for a lot of girls people got to see who they were and then they got in a drama and it was like oh it was just a bad moment but for me it was like oh well I can't get past the champagne thing does that make sense yeah so if you actually watch the show in Costa Rica Hannah and I had a one-on-one girl chat but a lot of people dismiss that because in their mind and then I went crazy

with calling Cindy what I did I got a little intoxicated but that wasn't I felt like champagne gate was so big that you really had nowhere to go from up but like you really went up fast and I think a lot of people

were surprised at the progression of your relationship with Peter a lot of people like whether they liked it or not that you went and talked to Peter privately whatever it is you and Peter had something and you made it all the way to hometowns. Yep. And I think people started to change on you.

I know the amount of hate I got from Champaign Gate. Some of those messages on the board were from me. And I did out people on my own personal account. And I got mixed reviews about it. Some people... If you're bold enough to send the message, then you're bold enough to let people... And I used to be able to show it.

I blocked that out. But I even from Bachelor Nation, I got some messages like, hey, you're better than that. You're feeding into their, like, what they want. You're feeding the... whatever and I'm like but I'm not because I'm not showing who it is but I also think it's important to put it out there yeah so I'm really happy that we got to talk about that tonight because good

I think it's important um and I think it was important too and I'm glad that like you guys were so open about you know you're sharing your own experiences because it's not always easy and I think as one person did everyone else did and it sounds like you guys had talked with each other too yeah about some of the experiences that you're sharing and I think when you have that power circle of friends it really helps you combat this because nobody gets this what you're going through and i think when i put those messages on my instagram story i had so many girls that i hadn't really talked to that reached out was like this isn't okay i get this all the time you know kind of like all right we didn't see eye to eye but we can level on the fact that we

know we're going through um so that was reassuring yeah almost bonds you in a way it does it does real quick paradise summer games would you do those i think i think I think I would like summer games more just because I'm such a competitive person. You didn't get to see this because I was on all the glam dates. I would have loved to do tackle football, but I didn't want the bruises. So I'm happy for that fact. But I would have ran over some girls. Good to know.

They're listening. They're listening to this. Also, who does Peter pick, Hannah Ann, Madison, or himself? I can't decide between the two, so I'm going to say himself. Okay. Just because I can decide between, I go back and forth every other day on her epics. Nothing wrong with that. Me too. Well, thank you so much for being here.

It's so nice to meet you. It's nice to meet you too. Where's that bottle of champagne? I wanted some of that. You didn't pop that thing. I don't know. I have like champagne all over me, but. All right, sitting here with me now is Lexi.

So I know something about you that maybe you don't think that I know. Oh, what is that? I heard you were the coolest chick in the house. That's literally how it was described to me. They were like, oh, my God, Lexi's the coolest. I love that. That's awesome. But I don't think I'm the coolest.

That, I mean, like, we didn't see a lot of you on the season, but I felt like when you spoke, it was like very matter of fact. You were very chill. You didn't seem to get, like, involved in the drama. Yeah. You had the girl click. Y'all had a little click. It's okay. They called us the cool kiss.

We had a click, too. I just, I'm like you're in the house when there's 30 different women. Yeah. You're going to, you know, be drawn to certain people and they become like your safe place in the house. So that really was that group of girls. And we're just very outspoken, sarcastic as hell. We just joke around a lot with each other. Like we have very like self-depreciating humor.

And I think you needed that kind of like comedic relief in the situation we were in. Yeah, let me ask you this. Because I feel like after watching you tonight and women tell all, you are opinionated, you're outspoken, girl after my own heart. But you tell it like it is. So watching as a viewer what was happening in the house with the women, it was like insane. And you know, y'all have gotten a lot of flack. Yeah.

Was it really that bad? It was worse. Oh, my God. I think it. I would have self-eliminated. Well, that's the thing is I started to just like, it was almost funny. Like, how have we gotten so. far off track of what we're supposed to be focusing on, which is Peter.

Yeah. Like we're talking about champagne bottles and friendships before and we don't, who cares? Yeah. It just started to get so noisy. I just wanted to be like, like, what is happening? You just have to last to survive. So I think I didn't realize that I thought I was coming off like a crazy person. Yeah.

Like, because by the time we got to Costa Rica, I had a hit, I hit my, my mark. I was like, that's it. I'm going to say exactly what I want. And I felt like I did that all the way through. Sure. But I just, I was there truly just to find a connection. I believe it. I don't care if I went home night one.

If he wasn't my person, I was so nice to meet you because I'm very happy with my life. Yeah. And I want someone to share it with. Yeah. That's the whole, that was it for me. Do you think that was your demise? like do you think that that's why you ended up you didn't participate in the drama he seems to like when a girl shows emotion you know like almost confuses that with depth we see we talk about that on the podcast confuses the two do you think like that that was probably why you went home yeah i i think it was a multiple things i definitely could have opened up a little bit more earlier on um it was just hard i think with all with everything else going on um and a lot of the conversations turned to what was going on with other girls.

Yeah. And I was like, Peter, I'm so glad that you want to ask me, but I'm also not your therapist. Like, I'm trying to date you. Yeah. And we just keep talking about other girls. So that was a little frustrating, but I just, I understood where he was coming from. Like, I felt for him. I wanted to give him some sort of guidance, if that's really what he wanted.

Yeah. And I don't think I would change anything. Like, I learned so much about myself. Good. and I'm even more vocal. You know, like, I have no problem just. Oh, you were vocal. Oh, you were vocal tonight.

I said, well, like, I was talking to Chey. I was like, what's up with you and Lexi? I mean, which I was pro for, no, like, that was interesting for me, too. Well, I was proud of her because it was like she wanted to speak and have her voice because we didn't see it much on the season. We didn't see yours on the season. So it was, I was like, wow, you know, like Lexi's really, honestly, you should have spoken up more. Maybe you could have narrated this whole season and we could have gotten through it a lot more faster

with complete sentences and thoughts and you know what I'm saying I mean that's the thing is you never know what's going to be in the show yeah I I was vocal but I think I held back a little because I was like what this is what's going on yeah and I just wanted to kind of ride it out I didn't want to be in the drama because that's not who I like yeah I don't get involved in that yeah but when it started to affect my time with Peter yeah that's when I was like okay we need to stop this yeah it just felt like the train was going off the tracks a little. You had a very interesting comment tonight, and I keep talking about it because it was almost shocking.

It was a beautiful statement, but it was shocking. It caught me off guard. You said, I know it doesn't seem like it, but we all love each other. When did that love come about? Because if for damn sure it didn't come in the season, did it pop off in the group chat? Did y'all slide in each other's DMs?

Wouldn't it the love fest come about? I guess, I mean, I'm the oldest of five kids, and I have four sisters. and we fight and we say whatever we want and we are honest with each other and right after you know you can hug and you can move on just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you don't have love for them

while we were filming and where we're all at now is a very different place and we've all learned from that and we all you know like I wasn't perfect no one was perfect and I think we just have grace for each other now Hindsight's 2020, I think you all learned from it.

You know, like, it's something you can never replicate. It's a group of women that, you know, no one else in the world will get to know exactly what happened in the house. We just have a bond because of that. Yeah, that makes sense. PTSD a little, you know?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Experience, you bond. I'm interested in the year from now who all will be close because that's always the thing. That's probably true. I guess we'll see. Real quick before I let you go.

Yeah. Will we see you in Paradise or Summer Games? It's a good question. I don't know. Would you do it if you were asked? I would definitely not say no. I mean, I'm open to it, you know? I think I had so much fun filming.

I loved this experience. I want to hear and see more of you. Thanks. All right. Well, thank you for being here. Of course. That's so nice talking to you. You too.

All right. Sitting in the hot seat right now, somebody I've been so eager to talk to. Miss Tammy, welcome to Bastor Happy Hour. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being here. Now, the theme of this is, without struggle, there is no progress, which is a tattoo that you have on you. So let's talk about the struggle. Okay.

And hopefully there was some progress after today because congratulations for surviving women tell all. I know it was a lot for you. I'm going to start there and let you talk. How do you feel coming out? I feel like all of us aired out what we need to air out. And I got my point across, whether they wanted to listen to it or not. And we're ready to move past this, you know? I feel like you have that type of personality.

Like, you can just let things roll off your back. Absolutely. You don't really take it to heart. I don't take offense to much, really. And I think it's a waste of energy to just hold a grudge on something. What I do is I'm going to let myself do with it, feel the emotions, and then get over it and move on. Why do you think that the girls came at you so harsh? I think because I am a very strong personality and the loudest one in the room.

And with that comes with controversy and people are going to disagree with that. And that's okay. And honestly, I'm glad I started a conversation because I'm here to challenge people. You know, it's going to be uncomfortable. And I'm okay with that. Do you feel like you apologize to people tonight? Because I feel like some people came in expecting an apology from you from either what they saw or what they heard or I don't know, what went down in the group chat, whatever. Yeah.

I, between me and Kelsey, we know the situation. Okay. I'm not here to say face and apologize, just to apologize. We already talked about it, and it's between me and her, and it's been resolved. Okay. So I'll go off of that. Were you frustrated rehashing a conversation that apparently you guys already had off camera? Absolutely.

And again, I think it needs to be said on camera and relived again, and it does suck for both parties. You know, we don't like to come at each other that way. I do respect these girls. And I think the reason of that why we all butt heads is because we're all very dominant, passionate people. Do you have any regrets this season? I don't really have any regrets. I mean, I tried my best. What you see is kind of what you get.

And I'm not, no matter what, I think it looks villainous because I am the loudest person in the room. And I started an argument. But I could have farted. And if he canceled the cocktail party, people would have blamed me for farting. You know, it's just like because that was the person to blame at the time. Well, I talked to Cheyenne and she had nothing but positive things to say about you. She said you're very, y'all are very close. Yeah, we are very close.

I love that girl to death. But what were you saying? Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not a malicious person, you know? I mean, even ask McKenna and Kelsey, they'll say as well, I'm not a nasty human being. We are going to disagree with things, but that's the beauty of friendships. Like, I'm not going to agree with everything just because you're my friend. Well, Lexi could say it. She said, you guys all love each other.

Absolutely. And I think we were shocked, but we saw it in a moment when we had that very serious conversation where we were talking about being bullied and spewing hate, and you guys ran to each other and came to each other. And I was really, really happy when you spoke. I wanted to hear from you because I saw the post that you talked about, about growing up and how you felt. And even something you said when you, we talked about on the podcast, when you were going

home in the car and you talked about he wanted a blonde trophy wife and it it rocked me Tammy when you said that because I felt you and in that moment I felt like you'd been misunderstood all season and I just like really want to give you an opportunity to talk about that and I and I also want to know how this conversation if at all has helped you I am actually so happy I wasn't expecting this and I'm so happy that you came on here and talked about it because I think for too long people were getting away with these nasty comments

and it's a hate crime and it's not okay for people to hide behind a screen and say these things who don't even know me or know us like they say nastier things to us than we would ever say to each other

you said that that was a really powerful point absolutely and that just says more about like yeah we are going to disagree but I would I would never come at someone's character

I would never come at someone's like race or how they look I think that when I did see the trophy wife comment like yeah throughout my entire life I grew up in a very Caucasian community I wanted to be this all-American girl

so badly yeah and I could never be that and because I can't change it I'm as Asian as it gets okay like you're beautiful thank you you guys she's literally shining I don't know how they let her wear this shirt on stage it looks stunning I'm sorry production it looks stunning

but it is against the dress coat I was blinding myself with this top but you like you're beautiful and we set that on the podcast I do and I like and it took a long time for me to get there like again like I wanted to buy all the clothes that these girls had and be who these girls were and I think for a long time I envied I wanted to be blonde hair blue I'd so badly like I would cry my eyes out to my mom she's like sweetheart you're Asian there's nothing you can do but but I think that what you said is so powerful and even the social media post that you had because you are representing yeah someone and it's like I can

speak about being an African-American woman, but I can't speak to what you went through and your struggles. And I hope that even though we had that conversation, that you knew that you're not alone. And I hope it empowers you to represent. Yeah. And I hope that I wish I heard this when I was struggling with the racial thing when I was a kid. Because there is people like me out there who are going through the same thing. And it sucks when you feel so isolated. and alone in the sea of people, because no one else is going to be able to understand unless they have experienced what you and I have experienced. Right.

But you're not alone. I know. I love that. I love that. I feel like what you said was so powerful. Like, you know, we don't know who the next Bachelorette's going to be. If you were asked, would you do it? I mean, of course, I would love the opportunity, too, because I think people just see this one

inside of me and they judged me on one minute of time that they think is defining who I am as a person but did they forget like throughout the entire season like I was never that yeah I'm not a villain I'm not a mean person I have a lot of

composure to me and I have a lot of stories to tell and I think that I would love the opportunity to become a bachelorette. Well I would love for the opportunity for you to redeem yourself so whether it's Bachelorette, Paradise Summer Games Redemption for Tammy yeah the redemption not even like where I have to like change who I am but like the fact that people need to see the full 360 of me before they can cast judgment you know honestly they can on other shows so right well I'm happy that you were able to speak to us today yeah thank you hear your voice and see another side of you I know I have on women to law and then just sitting here with you today so thank you for bringing the awareness because it was it was it was truly was it truly was thank you for being so vulnerable absolutely all right thank you

last but not least we have victoria p on bachelor happy hour in the house in the house how are you doing you survived women tell all you see here's the thing you were quiet at first i thought you know we're not really hearing a lot from victoria p and then chris said land victoria p and then it was bam it was all on you so how do you feel um you know i i i don't like conflict i don't like confrontation but i'm learning to work through it and learning to grow through it and to confront it had on and I tried my best to do about tonight and I think that in that I was you know I did better at communicating than than what I did before and that I uh I think I squashed a little bit of it

yeah I mean so anyway like like Savannah had it in for you and I talked to Alea and Leia said y'all have mutual respect for each other and it's kind of like a very mature situation which I think is great because we don't always see that or we didn't see that this season and fewer so it's nice to hear that you guys if reconciled and you're letting bygones be bygones. Savannah still has it in

for you. But not everyone likes you, right? But she said you talk in circles so I feel like I want to give you the opportunity to explain your, like, just like be very

matter of fact about what it is. So I'm going to ask you very direct questions. Okay, go ahead. I'm ready for it. Because I'm ready for it. Did you guys know each other more than three hours? Yes.

Did you have fun in Vegas? I had fun in Vegas. Where did you stay? I stayed at, shit, where do we stay? Treasure Island? Treasure Island. Did you room together?

No. Okay. Two separate rooms. Is there picture evidence? There is picture evidence. Okay. Yeah. No shame.

And the fact that I knew her, I had verbalized out to peer that we knew one another. I, as far as being friends, I couldn't tell you her favorite color, what her mom's name is. Yeah, you weren't close. Car she drives, where she went to school, what she does for a living. I mean, honestly, I, no, we weren't close. This is what I'll equated to. You guys are all close right now, but a year from now, you're not going to be the same. Yeah.

It's sad. but we won't be on the same level that you were before. So it's like we all went through this experience, like a pageant. I know her. I've been around her, but I'm not close with her. She's not one of my closest friends. See how we cleared that up? Yeah.

And just like that. Yeah. So what's next for you? What are you doing right now? So I work full time as a nurse. I've been a nurse for the last four and a half, five years. So I'm still doing that. I don't think that reality TV, but I have a future in that.

I can't see myself. I can't see myself doing that in the future. But I hope that that love is, somewhere in between. Well, that is the most honest thing I think that anybody has said. So thank you for that on this podcast because you don't see people come from the show

and say, you know what? I don't think there's a future in it for me. So you wouldn't do Paradise? You wouldn't do summer games? I'm just saying that I wouldn't. So my mom nominated me for The Bachelor in the first place. Oh, that's so cool.

I'm like, hey mom. Yeah, hey mom. Yeah. Anyway, but yeah, so Cindy nominated me and this has just, this has been a great experience and learning experience. But yeah,

I don't know what's next, but I will say I'm not, I don't know what's next, but I don't know if I will do. You've got to think about it. I'll think about it. You're going to weigh out your options. Do you have any regrets then from the season? You know, I wish that, and there were times I wished I'd been more direct. Like you and I, I wish I had been better at communicating, but I'm learning how to communicate better. I am an empathetic person, and I think it's part of my nature and who I am as a human being.

And it's part of my profession, obviously, and just the way that I grew. up to just kind of like brushed off and give someone kindness and grace and kind of take a hit in that. And I'm learning that it's okay to stand up for myself. And it's okay to have healthy confrontation and conflict and to work through that. And I think it's okay to say I made a mistake. Yeah. I own it. I didn't handle it the best. We all can say that coming from this opportunity. Yeah. And I did it. There were many things. I'm like, oh man, I really could handle that different. And I've beat myself about it and I've gotten hate mail because of it. I've really, but it's been

challenging for me, but it's also been a growing experience and a learning experience through that. Did I know LA before this? Yeah. I never denied that. Were we friends know, I'd say we were more acquaintances, but I should have clarified more, and I should have communicated more with her. In your defense, Peter doesn't always ask the most direct

questions. So that's why I was like, you know what? We're just going to go right to it. While we got out of the way. So anyway. So like everybody knows that there are no more questions. about it. It is what it is. They moved on so you guys need to move on as well. And absolutely. And I think I will say everyone move on and I hope

that everyone treats ALEA with kindness and respect and love and generosity regardless. There's no side of choose as far as I'm concerned. I think we're there. Yeah. And you know what's been great. Like women to all started off real high, like on a level 305.

And then things just kind of like died down a bit. And then you saw that there was this camarader camaraderie between you guys. And I think that that was special because as a viewer, we saw none of that. And so I think you all,

you guys all was just like, you know what, hindsight's 2020. We made some mistakes, but we all went through a shared experience and you're going to hold on to that. We were all different and we all have our differences, but we could all see in unity and hand in hand say that we are,

that we stand together against hate and against a better future. and can let by Gons be Bon Gond's, you know? I don't even want to ask you another question. That was beautiful the way you just ended that. I was going to ask you about the season, but it's like, you know what? Yeah, like, let's just be better. Yeah, let's just say we can always see better.

There's always room for growth. And like I said, this has challenged me to be better. And I don't know what's ahead, but I know that this has challenged me to be a better Victoria P. And I'm going to be a better human being, a better spouse and a better friend. And because of all of us. So thank you for sharing that. And thank you for coming on the podcast.

podcast. Thank you. Now, I lied to you guys, and I don't do this often, but when I do, it's for a good reason. I told you my final guest was Victoria, but it's actually Mr. Weber. Peter, welcome again to Bashar Happy Hour. You're becoming a regular. Yeah, what's going on? It's good to be here. Thanks for having me. Can we have an honest talk? I would love that. I'm upset. Why? Because I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. It's not over yet. What's wrong? This is why. I remember when we talked and I was like, man, Peter, out of anybody who's who since I've been watching. I want you to find your happiness and to find love and this season has been frustrating for me to watch so I can only imagine what it was like for you to be in it

and I guess I just like am frustrated I'm frustrated for you that's why I'm saying I'm upset because you know at this point I have no idea what decision that you made and Chris tonight said you don't even know what the decision is

which I as a lawyer and being logical I'm like, okay, so that means maybe this is this, this is this, and we can't figure it out. But watching this last episode and you being so honest and forthcoming about how you feel about who you are, it was very frustrating for me to watch, you put all yourself out there and then to get this tidbit of information at the very end. And I'm very curious as to how you felt about it. Are you talking about with Victoria? talking about with Madison. Oh, okay.

So maybe I should like, I guess I'm more so saying you have been very upfront and honest about like what you're going through and how you feel, maybe even to a fault, but that's like the beauty of you. It's a gift and a curse. And for you to get this information at the very end, which I feel like doesn't allow you to fully have the right mindset as you're going into week nine, which is insanely important. And just to set the stage for everybody, week night is important, not because it's Fantasy Sweet Week and that's what it's titled, entitled, title, it's that it's the time that you get off camera to really get to know somebody with no one else around. It is precious, precious time. And your mind is all over the place for multiple reasons and you're trying to be sensitive to how everyone else is feeling. But at the same time, you need to kind of know everything and you didn't until the very last second. So I'm really curious to know how you felt in that moment when you got that information that maybe you could have gotten, I don't know, week one. Yeah, I mean, I don't know realistically if that's a week one type conversation, but yes, in a perfect world, I definitely would have, I wish I could have known that sooner on, no doubt, because that made that week the hardest

week of my life. And, and, and that was not easy at all. But I will say, like, I, I told all of the women from the very first night to, I remember that, the toast. I said, be real with me. Share whatever is on your heart. I don't care if you think I'm going to like it or not. Just, I need to know that and you need to be able to express that to me. And that's all that Madison was doing in that moment. Yes, I would have loved for her to have done it way sooner. I would have. But I can't fault her. And if I do, I'm only a hypocrite of her sharing what was on her heart. And she did it in the most, there was no easy way for her to do that. And I remember that conversation like it was yesterday. It was tough for her and she was struggling and she didn't want it to

come off. Like she was telling me what I had to do. But she was simply telling me where would put her if I made certain decisions. And that I have to respect and I can't follow her for her. You talked about her when she shared that information with you about the ultimatum. Yeah. I don't want to say ultimatum, but you didn't feel like she was giving you an ultimatum, but she was sharing what was on her heart in that moment in the hangar when it was down to the final three. Do you ask yourself the question, why didn't she also share that she was saving herself for marriage in that moment? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know why she didn't decide to share that with me. I truly do, whether it's right or not, I feel like maybe that would have, that would have meant something to me. I actually agree with you. I know that information. Like when we talk about it on the podcast, I make the argument that I think that that information was vital to you to know what decisions you were going to make going into that week.

Yeah, I, yeah, you're right. And I, obviously, her and I, we have different viewpoints on that. And that's fine. You know, we don't have to be like in every single regard. But yeah, I wish she would have expressed that to me there. And I think, yeah, it would have had a little bit more gravity there. And, um, but what are you going to do? She didn't. Yeah. So tell me how it ends. Well, Peter. We're close now. I know. Can you sniff it? Yeah. I have personally asked to be placed next to Barb at the finale. At the finale. I thought she was going to be here at Women Tel She was not. Yeah, a couple of her friends were honeyberries back in the day. Oh, really? I got to say out of them. Yeah. So what happens?

Am I going to be mad? I'm upset because I want whatever happens. I'm like passionate. Yeah. So it's not an upset like I'm angry. No, you want the best of me. I like you. Yeah.

I like you. And I want it to work for you and I want you to be, I mean, you can be happy even if you choose yourself at the end of this, but I just, like when I see what's happening towards the end, I, I entitled our, I titled our podcast. for last week, can Peter catch a break? It was the subtitle. Can we just give him one week off? The answer is no.

Oh, God, Peter. It's literally, and I say, I mean, I've said it a million times. Things happen until the last second. Apparently they still are. We'll see about that. But yeah, it was just very difficult for me in a lot of ways. And yeah, the whole stuff with the Fantasy Sweet Week. And that's just, that's set the tone for a lot of stuff.

It was super tough. But I really can say, like, right now where I'm at, I am happy and I am in a good spot. And so I'm not going to be mad at the finale. Is that what you're telling me? Am I going to be mad? At this point, everyone has so many opinions and you can't please everyone is what I'm learning. So I don't know. But we're talking about me. We're worried about me. Okay. Big sis here. You know, I can, I can sense, you know, some overprotective tendencies here, which I appreciate. And I love that. So thank you. Um, listen, I know you want the best for me. And I'm in a good spot. So I think, I think that'll be good. I can, I can hold on to that. Okay. That'll get me through till the. the finale. Yeah. Come see me, come see me, though, after that, though. Okay, I will. And you're not,

what I will say is you're not going to, like, you're not being mad about me not following my heart and doing what I needed to do for sure. No, I won't. I won't. I won't be mad at you for following your heart. But we'll see, yeah, but we'll put a pin in it there. Now, what I will say about tonight, though, what was really refreshing was how nice the women were. Are you shocked? Yes, I was. Why? Well, because, I mean, I, I had never been in a room with that many exes until I walk out and I had a lot of nerves coming into it. I just didn't know how they'd kind of received me. You know, it's always weird when you end a relationship and that's the first time you see them. But no, I felt the love like crazy from them and just really sweet, kind words

of encouragement. That was really special and beautiful to me and I thought that was awesome. I'll say it was awesome too because the women we just know didn't really get along and there seemed to be so much cattyness, but they all could agree. You were the common denominator of what was good about the season for them. So I thought that that that. was special. Like, people can call you indecisive. Right. I've said it myself. Yeah. But at the end of the day, whatever you did with them because of the way they reacted tonight, you did it right. Yeah. And that was, yeah, that means a lot. Those words mean a lot. Um, I truly try my best to really as much as I could give each relationship my full attention when I was with those women. And, you know,

seeing that they kind of, they saw that as well and expressed that to me, that meant a lot. And, um, I could feel good about that. Well, I, I really want to keep asking you questions, but you're not giving me what I want because I want you to tell me how it ends. That's all you want to come. I just, I just really thought we were on a different level, Peter. You know, I've been invited to come over to the family dinner. Yeah, we're on a podcast. So don't ask me when we're on a podcast. Well, nobody's here. What are you talking about? No, but you do seem happy. And I, you know, I, you know, I always wish the best for you. And I guess I'll just have to wait till next week, like everybody else. It's okay. It's, this truly might be the first kind of unspoiled in a while.

So you know what? It already is. Well, I hope, I hope they enjoy it. And, I'm sure there'll be no shortage of opinions, just like the rest of this journey, but it's something that I'll always remember and very grateful for. Well, at the end of the day, I know you will handle it well like you always do. Thank you. All right. Thanks for being here. Love you. Well, you guys, that was women tell all.

We brought you some great guests, more guests than I even thought that were going to come through here. And people were actually excited. I guess they haven't been listening to the podcast. No, but everything was great. It was all love. I really enjoyed having great conversation with the women. I loved getting some insight from Peter. And I mean, next week, you guys, is the finale.

I have no idea what's going to happen. I know it's going to be good. I know you better tune in and come back here. I have no idea who's going to be sitting in the hot seat. But that's because we don't know how it ends. So stay tuned. Thank you for joining. And I feel like I should say, you're welcome.

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