Bachelor Happy Hour - Bailey & Jeremy: Bachelor Mansion Takeover and Needlepoint | Golden Hour

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back for part two with Bailey and Jeremy! We get things started with a major relationship question: What are the biggest things Bailey and Jeremy have l...earned about each other since growing their relationship post-“Paradise”? Then, Jeremy gives us the inside scoop on his involvement in HGTV’s “Bachelor Mansion Takeover” series! Plus, the couple weighs in on one of our listener write-ins: What advice do they have for sticky family dynamics? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi everyone. Welcome back to Golden Hour. We're here for part two with Bailey and Jeremy. So let's dive right back in. The funniest thing about you, Bailey, was you tell the day we first were talking. You were telling you about the clothes in the basement with labeled, you forgot. Labeled what she wore online, what she'd sent online, what she'd worn in a commercial. All of them were. Yeah, I do have it in certain boxes. Oh, I know. I know. This is like. Like, you know, and then I also like, I'm a memories hoarder.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So I just like love to keep my memories. So I'm just like, I don't want to throw. I'm like, I wore the formal in 2016. I need to keep this. Like this is my. I love, Jeremy, I love you. Look at his face. Not living in Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You don't have room. Yeah. So that, you know, and well, here's the thing. Jeremy has a loft. So actually all. What does that mean? What does that mean? What's a loft?
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's like there's a loft. They have space. And, and really. he hasn't used it and so I use it and I have boxes up there now of clothes and I have clothes in the closet but yeah
Starting point is 00:04:07 Jeremy are you a shopper? I like I mean you always look nice on Paradise that's why I'm asking. I like clothes that I want to wear but not really like I'd rather have a smaller closet of stuff that I could just wear and then when I get sick of it I don't
Starting point is 00:04:23 wear it anymore would you get rid of it and buy it? I pack light. He does pack very light. I wish I could learn that. Especially like if I'm traveling to like a warmer place or when I go hiking or something, like I had a duffel bag that lasted me an entire month in Peru. Oh my God. Do you do laundry?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, yeah, you do laundry. Like you could find like walk into like a cheap laundromat and they get it to within a few hours. You get an idea. When we went to Vegas for three days, I brought almost three suitcases. So I bring two or three Really heavy a really heavy big one It was I had to put some of my stuff into his suitcase Because it was and then I end up
Starting point is 00:05:07 Buying a new suitcase where I'm at Because I bought some of it Because I'm shopping So you know Everyone has to Oh yeah I feel you I feel you I don't know but Jeremy
Starting point is 00:05:22 I live alone in a four bedroom house And every single closet is full And the attic. Yeah, that's my dream. I mean, that's my dream. Every closet is so my closet. And then, you know, it's not the closet. I'll move it somewhere.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You know what? I know this is putting the cart before the horse. But I want to be around when you get pregnant. How many maternity outfits can you wear? Oh, my God. It's going to be, well, we actually had this small conversation. I just explained to him like how dramatic I am when I don't. don't feel good, it's going to be a thousand times worse.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Like, it's going to be, I think those nine months will be probably the worst nine months of everybody's life around me. Probably my favorite nine months of my life, probably. But wait, I don't understand. You don't think you're going to feel well? Oh, I think I'm, I know. I hate being uncomfortable. I think I'm going to be very dramatic and very much.
Starting point is 00:06:25 She's warning you now, babe. Yeah, and very like just. Look at Jeremy. Jeremy's just like, no. But I'm pregnant. I can't. I'm pregnant. She's all talk usually.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm like, okay, I'm obviously going to still do things for myself, but it will probably be a pretty like rough nine months for everyone. Stop. It's a beautiful. It was so easy. It's beautiful. I love children. I'm literally like auntie.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I literally love being an auntie. It's my favorite thing. But I know. I mean being pregnant. Yeah, I'm like... We're a long time away. Yeah, that's a long way. Wait, can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:07:04 You're Bailey, what are you? 26. I've forgotten. I'm 28. And how old are you, Jeremy? 31. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You got plenty of time. Yeah, we've got time and not in a rush. And I really enjoy being an auntie. I feel like that's what my calling is at this moment. It's not to be a mom. But definitely later, obviously, but not right now. I mean, right now, you've got to learn how to cook. Yeah, what are my kids going to eat?
Starting point is 00:07:32 We actually, we talk. Do you have any interest in cooking at all? I do. Yeah, I think not for myself. I love her. Bailey, we had these conversations. I'm right there with you, Bailey. I'm just telling you, I have company coming.
Starting point is 00:07:46 My neighbors that I haven't seen, not neighbors, old neighbors, are coming for dinner in a few nights. And I swear to God, Susan, you're going to laugh. I woke up at four. clock this morning going, holy shit. They're coming for dinner in three days and I don't know what. I've got to go to the grocery store. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm going to cook. I would just have a caterer at that point. I like cooking because I like knowing what's in my meals, but in New York it's not even that cost effective to cook. Really? Yeah. The cost of ingredients at Whole Foods, which is like the closest thing to my apartment. But you don't know what's in the food you order.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, that's why I cook. But I'm saying you didn't care about that and you only. You didn't care about spending like an extra $2 for a meal. Like you could just order something in. So I don't blame her. But yeah, she needs to learn how to cook. Oh, please. We have this car.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I will learn how to cook. My kids will not be starved. Will they eat lots of grilled cheese? Yes. My kids will probably be, they'll be having two to three grilled for the week. I just don't have any allergies to cheese. My kids are grilled chicken and broccoli. They can have a brick.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm going to tell you my daughter. who really sort of cooked before she got married, but after she got married, really learned to cook. And her daughter, that child you just saw, eats better, more healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:10 She cooks unbelievable stuff. That kid eats anything. So, you know, you'll learn. You'll do it. Yeah, I mean, I think I will because I'm already really psycho about my dog and my dog eats really well. So I feel like when I have a child,
Starting point is 00:09:25 it's going to, I'm going to be a psychopath. So I know at that moment. Somebody will be cooking my child. Very cool. There we go. Where is your dog in Atlanta? He's with my great aunt right now.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And we miss her. Where is that? In Hilton Head. In Hilton Head. Oh, I love it there. Yeah. She's living her best life. And she's not in any intense snow weather.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So that's really nice. So what's your next trip? Do you guys have another trip planned? Um, well, it's not really a trip, but like we're both going to be in L.A. next month. And then for her birthday, we're going out to Carmel by the Sea in California. Are you going to be there when I'm there? When are you there? The 10th.
Starting point is 00:10:13 March or February. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Wait, we're talking about L.A. or Carmel by the city? Carmel. Oh, we won't be there until April. Yeah, my birthday's in April. Remember we're all tourists, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh, I remember. remember. April what? April 24th. And then he'd say 19. And then Kathy. My brother was the 29, 23rd. May not. Yeah. I think. Oh my God, a lot of tourists. But I know I liked you. Your, your birthday. I told you was my wedding anniversary. So I knew you were a good guy. Thank you. Even though you have resting bitch face. But you do smile a lot more. You know what? I think I used to have RBF as well. I feel like having RBF as maybe just like a tourist trade. I like very much change that. I feel like in college when people told me I looked really intense.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So I feel like sometimes when people tell you that you look mean, then you're like, okay, I'm going to just smile all the time. As soon as you said that, Jeremy started smiling. You know, and he died. He just laughs. Okay, I have one more question. Okay. What is the biggest, single, most important thing you've learned about each other,
Starting point is 00:11:24 pick who's ever going to answer first since you left paradise since you've you know that since you left the bubble most important most yeah and like most significant pick a word like surprising the most just that you learned about each other yeah the most significant surprising wonderful pick an adjective i don't care probably just you know obviously people can be thoughtful but i guess how thoughtful she is and how much she's thinking about anyone besides herself is very purple. Very nice. Very nice. Oh.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Okay. What about you? Bailey. I feel like there's so many things. I feel like I, every day, I'm just very impressed with, like, how diligent and, like, hardworking and focused Jeremy is. I feel like it's very inspiring for me because sometimes I do just, like, want to sit in bed and, you know, nap away at all my problems. And I feel like I really appreciate just that energy
Starting point is 00:12:31 that he brings every single day. It's, I feel like really good for me. And also I feel like it's helping me make healthier choices. And, you know, I just like, I love his energy. I love like, you know, the kind of person he is. And I feel like him just being such like a focus, diligent. And just like about, it could be about anything. Something small doesn't matter if he wants to do it. going to put his mind to it. And I feel like, I obviously think I felt that in paradise, but I think it's really hard to know that is like a truthful quality that somebody has until you see it in the real world.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So I feel like that's a really big thing that I just like love about him. And I feel like that's just been such a wonderful thing to like see him do every day. Oh. Yeah. So sweet. I mean, honestly, when I saw you, you, well, I should ask you, like, did you see could you imagine yourselves being here in paradise where you are today i mean i think you could imagine it right like that's why you go you go on the show and if you
Starting point is 00:13:35 find a connection i i think for me personally i really just play it day by day so i obviously still play it day by day well no like my my future will be with her but like i just don't think there's a point of like overthinking thing yeah i feel like In Paradise, we were both just like, okay, we're putting all this effort in because we see this actually like working out. But I feel like we really have just been taking a day by day when we got back, just like, you know, making sure we're putting each other first, you know, having those important conversations. And I feel like that's what's kind of made it feel so natural and, you know, made us. Because Susan, let me explain to you in Paradise. Jeremy was very busy taking daggers stabbing me in the back.
Starting point is 00:14:21 How? When? At the back side? You guys stabbed the daggers in your own back. Yeah, Kathy, you did do that. You did stab it in your own back. That's another story. It was how Keith and I made sure that we were not going to win anything so that one of the young ones.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And we, and you know, I think that's why we. You know you weren't winning anyways. I mean, at that point, I had no idea it was going to happen, truthfully. Like, feel like we were just... I like to believe, Jeremy. Love Springs. Love Springs Eternal. And there was a guy out there for me, and it just wasn't on Paradise. We're going to leave it at that. Oh, there is. He needs to be very smart, very strong. And. For me? Yeah. He needs to be smart and strong and be able to handle you.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Like Mel Owens, strong. Mel Owens is a peg. Mel Owens, what? He's just saying, he's just like saying random golden people, but I said melless with peg, but I feel like you just need someone that is like very strong-willed and, you know, someone that can keep up with you. Like, it's not easy, Kathy, you're on the go. We're going to find them.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Okay. Yeah, that could, you know, in your spare time, Bailey, you could be doing, help me out here. I know. I'm going to post an ad on my story. Yes, please. Yes. That's exactly what I need to do. You know what?
Starting point is 00:15:54 People will listen to you. You should. Good. Okay, I'm going to do that. I actually have a list of people from Bachelor Nation that I would like to shout out on my story to help find them like really amazing matches. I feel like that would be such a fun like project for me. So we'll see. The newest tracks.
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Starting point is 00:19:38 Your predator might go up and good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jones. singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jones. And also, you know, your daughter is incredible.
Starting point is 00:20:06 That's beautiful, man. Yeah. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on you.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Disney in front of million. How did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so we want to get in to our listener write-ins. But before we, do we do that jeremy i want to talk to you about your time on the hg tv special coming up on the mansion redo so my first question is what is your background when it comes to renovation interior design yeah i mean there's a there's a profile put out on hd tv they uh it was a it was a mix you know
Starting point is 00:21:22 of backgrounds on the show i think you know a majority of the guys there were six guys there I think everyone but me was their background was like construction or DIY like renovation stuff and the the woman were a mix of I think like interior design and real estate my background is not in construction like the guys besides for like one summer internship my my background's in civil engineering and math and then I've been in real estate my entire life as a broker on the on the principal side And then I also, like, have my own property that I designed myself and rented that out on Airbnb. So a little bit different, but going into it, I thought it could be an advantage also because I think, I was really thinking that the challenges would be, like, more design than construction itself because who's going to trust a bunch of reality people actually?
Starting point is 00:22:17 What was it like being with Bachelor Nation folks in such a different capacity? Yeah, it was cool. First, like not even with the folks. I'd never been to the mansion before. Like, my season wasn't there. So even though I've now done a few seasons of reality TV, actually being in the mansion, it was kind of cool. Like not Starstruck, but like it was really weird being there. It was cool. I'm then the people themselves. It was a mix of new Bachelor Nation folks, old Bachelor Nation folks, everyone in between. I didn't know at least half of them. but it was a really unique group of people and a really cool group of people, and I was glad I was given the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I did not realize you were not back in the mansion. No, we did our first night at a different mansion, and then we went abroad. So it was cool being there. So did you enjoy it? The mansion or the show? Okay. All of them are both?
Starting point is 00:23:24 It was a I both enjoyed it and didn't enjoy it. I will say you need to use your brain like all day. It's really exhausting. But on the fun part of things, like because I was, you know, had a different kind of experience, even just like talking aloud with the people,
Starting point is 00:23:43 you know, who were there from Bachelor Nation also like we had the best contractors in LA there helping us. And it was really fun to just learn. Yeah. And I was excited to go in and, you know, kind of learn parts about different crafts. Nice. Who from the cast were you meeting for the very first time?
Starting point is 00:24:03 Oh, I'm probably going to forget some people. Courtney Robertson, that's her last name, right? From, I don't even know. Here's the thing. I know I don't watch reality TV, so I don't know what's evening these people are on. Courtney was cool. Noah Earb, his brother, Aaron. was on my season his twin brother. I was meeting him for the first time. Who else was there? Sandra.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Sandra and Joan were two Goldens that were there. Is that my first time meeting? I met Joan briefly for like one minute before, but yeah, Joan was there who is awesome. Who else was there? Dean, who I didn't know him, but I think he was like a prominent paradise or controversial paradise figure from years ago. So I don't know who else. forgetting but it was a cool group of people and then i knew some people already um like sam mckinney
Starting point is 00:25:00 for my season yeah and alicia from paradise and and jill chin from paradise wow it's a fun crowd huh yeah wow well it sounds like i can't wait to see it yeah i know it's coming up soon i can't wait to see it are you excited to watch it back yeah i mean i'm you never know how these things look when they when they reach the tv so i'm always excited and you know, March 2nd, HGTV and HBO. That's my birthday. Woo-hoo! Yay!
Starting point is 00:25:31 Wait, I have a question, though, Jeremy. Yes. Having been in the mansion and spent time there, and since I don't cook and I was the cleaner, did they please fix the dishwasher? You'll have to see. I want us know if it's a new kitchen or just... I feel like the whole mansion desperately needed as...
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yes. I should have been on the show. show let me tell you. You would have been cooking. I heard from... I would have been remodeling. I heard from a lot of people was in need of a makeover and parts of it
Starting point is 00:26:06 definitely were, but parts of it, like, it has good bones. It might need, you know, it has. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Definitely could use just a little bit of tuna. Okay, so I'm going to say, Jeremy, I am not I am neither
Starting point is 00:26:20 in construction nor an interior designer, but the minute you say that the place could use a little but has good bones, that is, that is trade talk for it needs updating. That's what it means. The structure is good, however. Let's gut the inside. I still like the man that's served lots of people for lots of years.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Oh, my goodness. It's done as well. All right, listen, guys, we are now going to read one of our listener write-ins. So we're going to ask your opinion on this. Yes, we want some advice. Bailey and Jeremy. Are you ready? Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Here we go. This is a question from Anonymous. Please keep this anonymous. I love listening to your podcast and hope you can guide me through this. I have come to the conclusion that I need to mourn my sister, who was so much a part of my life, until my boyfriend came in the picture about three years ago. I feel as if she may be envious of my relationship, as she doesn't even bother to ask me about what I have done, places I have been, and she doesn't even like any pictures I send in a family text group. It's almost like I do not exist. A few months ago, I actually asked her if I had offended her in any way and asked why she doesn't acknowledge anything about my life now. She
Starting point is 00:27:45 basically gaslit me and told me it's in my head, and she loves me and loves that I'm happy, but her actions tell me otherwise. The most recent event, was a FaceTime call we had with my other two sisters and niece. I'd just gotten back from a trip with my kids, boyfriend, and his kids. She didn't even look at me on the screen and never once asked how the trip was. What should I do? Here's the thing. If you're on a FaceTime with other people, how does she know who she's looking at?
Starting point is 00:28:19 That part doesn't make sense. I think she's paranoid? Yeah. Yeah, no, not for nothing. I get where the writer is coming from, but even in my own experience, there are times in my life where I'll reach out to family, friends, whoever more a certain week or a certain month. Sometimes you get busy. Sometimes you're just not in the mood to talk to people. I don't think it means she doesn't want to be involved in their life.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I think you just need to give some people some grace to just, like, live their life. and, you know, it goes on for years. Maybe that's a different story. Yeah. I agree. I feel like, I mean, even just reflecting back on this year, I feel like this year was really hard. And I feel like giving grace is just much needed to people that you love.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And I feel like you never know what someone's going through, even if, you know, they are happy or it seems like they're happy. I feel like it's really important to maybe not internalize and project things. Obviously, I think having a mini conversation about it. is always, if this is your sister, you can talk to your sister about anything. I call my sister about everything. Like, it doesn't matter. There's no TMI.
Starting point is 00:29:30 There's nothing that we can't talk about. And I feel like, yeah, definitely, if she feels like maybe there's something to discuss and dive into, obviously have that conversation. But I think also it's important to give people you love grace and, you know, allow them to work through things or, you know, she could be going through more than her sister knows. So, yeah, good, great. Yeah, good point. But wait a minute, maybe you're saying that she needs to give grace to her sister,
Starting point is 00:29:57 but maybe she's, I don't know, maybe it's a triangle that it's tough for her to adapt to. It could be. I think sometimes it's hard when you're used to someone being there for you all the time. And then they have other priorities and other things going into their life. And I think a lot of people can like relate to that, like even with their friends. Like when their friends get partners, it's like hard because now your partner has other people and other things they need to put on. So I feel like...
Starting point is 00:30:24 I don't get a hobby. I do think... Wait, I think getting a hobby is important. Always. Okay, everyone should have a hobby, but I feel like sometimes maybe they're both kind of just getting used to the changes, and maybe someone can't be there for you
Starting point is 00:30:38 like they used to be, if that makes sense. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, it makes sense to me. So what are you saying that they, that the sister has to adapt to the new normal? Is that what you're saying? I think they both have to adapt the new normal. And I think they both should definitely talk about it and, you know, do check-ins and see how they are.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And I don't know, maybe lean on other people or friends or, you know, other things at that time. But it can be hard. I think it would be hard. I'm wondering if anybody else, the other sisters or siblings or niece that was on that Zoom call noticed anything or if it's just her. Like my mom always talks to me about things. She's like, does that person seem, you know, whatever? So maybe it would be a good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:21 conversation even with the boyfriend and be like do you notice like resentment or something like that as well have you well have you well Bailey have you noticed any change now that you're with jeremy have you is there any change with the relationship with your sister no i feel like well so my sister obviously she's in a different time zone we have a family group message we text in that and they're very often um and i feel like my sister and i try to face time every few days I feel like we're both pretty good about talking to our family and friends. Obviously, I think it's hard. Like, you're tired.
Starting point is 00:31:56 There's things going on. I've been traveling. Like, there's just moments where you can't necessarily give everyone your full attention. And, like, if you're not doing well, like, I will say that something that he's really good about is, like, helping me set boundaries with people. Obviously, not my sister. That's not someone I would probably ever set boundaries with. But just in general, me, I'm always like a person where I'm like, yes, yes, yes. I'll come to this.
Starting point is 00:32:18 maybe sometimes I'm tired and I don't want to. I feel like that could also be. It's okay to say no. So basically, basically Jeremy's one that teaches you to say no. He, no, he's definitely,
Starting point is 00:32:30 he's still teaching me to say no. I feel like he would say that I still say yes a lot. But I think it's good. I think I'm learning to like incorporate balance into my life a little bit more. And I did in fact get some hobbies. So I feel like that's been really good to hobbies work. The newest tracks. Let's go.
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Starting point is 00:33:08 I think we need something new. Discover IHeart new music. Always fresh. Always first. Stream now on the free IHart Radio app. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. Our menelick Lamouba.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. had both been assassinated, and Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almermata, Morehouse College,
Starting point is 00:33:37 the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King's senior, and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what, We really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis. Linguistics and Psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Mind Games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, NLP, might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:35:23 In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who prays unvulnerable and trusting people. Your creditor might go up and good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your.
Starting point is 00:36:20 podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter is incredible. That's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self?
Starting point is 00:37:02 I went blank, I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeartre. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You have hobbies? What are they?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yes. Oh, I've been hobbying it up. I'm really into needle pointing. Wait, look. I'm into needle pointing. I'm needle pointing this for my friend's baby. Do you understand I'm a huge needle pointer? Do you know that?
Starting point is 00:37:44 I didn't know that, Kathy. I am like very... No, I have needlepoint for 35. years, I will send you pictures of... Oh my gosh. I can teach you fancy stitches. Wait, well, you actually... Wait, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So when I come to Austin, you're going to teach me. Because I haven't gotten the... I haven't had the time to go to a class yet. So I will teach you. I will teach you. I am an expert needlepoint. I went full blown. I just...
Starting point is 00:38:08 I have like, actually, I just put all my projects in bags. I have maybe 10 projects I'm about to do right now, but I gave myself this month to finish this like little bunny rabbit. for my best friend's baby's nursery. Yes. So cute. And so I have been like grinding. Is it?
Starting point is 00:38:28 I have been like grinding on it. So you understand it is it at a deal point was a dying art and then people your age are taking it up in droves. I'm addicted to it. I love it. I will show you when you come. I can teach you. Yeah. I'm so excited because it's really difficult because I actually don't really difficult because I actually don't really.
Starting point is 00:38:50 have anyone around me that like needle points. I have some like online friends that do, but it is hard. And I really needed a hobby because my screen time, I was doing over the amount of screen time that is in hours of the day. I don't know how. Maybe it's because I have two phones and iPad and a camera, but my screen time was like an insane amount, basically. So I was like, now you have, you have another reason to come to Austin. I will teach you. Oh my God. We can go to Need a Point store. Yeah. So I'm like, My goal for the year is to do ornaments of every single place that we've been. So I bought an ornament when we were in Vegas. We went to a – like we got to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:39:30 We went to a needlepoint store. I got an ornament. And so that's kind of like what my mission is for the year. Okay. Well, I'm in. I will absolutely help you. I love it. Yeah, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:39:43 She looks beautiful Christmas stockings for all her kids. I've done seven or eight Christmas stockings. I've done about 70 ornaments. I've done 17th Santa Clauses from around the world. Like I've stitched a lot. Do you finish them yourself or do you send them to a finisher? You always send them to a finisher. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Because I also like I have some projects that I, when I started this like maybe around Christmas. That was my mom's Christmas gift to me. One of her gifts was like she took me to the needlepoint store and I just kidded every single canvas I went and it was an insane amount of money. It is a very extreme hobby. And actually, I would pick the most extensive hobby I can find. So like, oh, okay, like this is, I'm real, it's really intense. I was like, but I can't fathom finishing this myself.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm going to have to send it to a finisher. You want to send it. We'll talk offline. I will help you with that. Maybe I will help you with that. They're heirlooms. Yeah, that's what I want to save them for my kids and then like pass them on and put them on a tree. and I feel like that would be just so fun for us.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I did. I did a, the year before my husband died, I did a University of Texas boot and in the burnt orange with UT on it. And my husband died like two months later. And actually this year, I wrapped it up and gave it to my son for his office because he loves UT as well.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah, they're heirlooms. They're really cool. Yeah. This is very time consuming. Does it take a long time to do a project? Oh, yes. Yes. That one I've been putting in hours.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like, I mean, when I say, I mean, what would you say? All day. All day. Have you learned more stitches? Have you learned a difficult? Yeah. I don't know if you can see. But like this one, I tried to do like a satin stitch here.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. Yeah. Like it's kind of over. And then this like this is only I did a mini one. And then I started a project and then I started this. So this is only like my second slash first. like real canvas. Yeah. And so I'm just like I need, I bought the like stitch book. So I'm going to definitely get into it more. But I would be like to do like once you start you won't be able to
Starting point is 00:41:59 once you get really into it. Like you know, I stitch probably two or three hours a day. Yeah. I think yesterday I stitched for maybe like five hours because I'm trying I need to get it done. I'm going back to Atlanta for like two days. And so I want to give it to them when I go. And like I gave myself a month to finish it. And I need to finish it before the 28th. So 28 days. I feel like that's pretty good though. Yeah. You'll get that done. Yeah. I'm like I'll get faster too. I feel like I get into the habit of it. But it is like happy to like bring back and be a part of like the movement bringing back. Yes. You know, pointing. And like I would really like to know how to knit later. I think I can teach you that.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah, wait, you knit. Okay, so I want to know how to knit. And I crochet. All sweaters. So that's, that's why I want to knit so that I can do. You probably want to crochet them, but we can talk about it. Okay, maybe that's what I'm going to do. But I'm like, I feel like that's just so fun.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then. Hey, Jeremy, do you want to learn? I could like teach a small class with you. I actually always ask me if he wants to put it, put the needle through and he's like, I'm just going to let you handle that. My kids, I just have to tell me. a bunch of blankets, crudely, blankets once a part of time. Everyone's getting a blanket next Christmas.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I got to tell you guys a funny story. Before all three of my kids took piano lessons, and I would always bring my needlepoint and stitch while they were having their lesson. And this will be at my funeral. To this day, my kids still tease me about it. If they had a bad lesson, they're like, there you were, mom, poking the needle in up the canvas and pulling it and poking again. They will never, yeah, taking my...
Starting point is 00:43:43 aggression are their bad lesson on my court. I feel like it's actually a really good way to like relieve stress. So that's also why I don't have really good like coping habits to like relieve my stress. I feel like I'm constantly stressed. And so yeah, it's kind of like a hope of like I'm so glad you found it. When you come to Austin, I will take you to a little point store. I will I'll teach you all the tricks of the trade. And Jeremy can cook for us. Yeah, he'll tell. It's me and you in the kitchen, Jeremy. Yeah. They'll go buy the food.
Starting point is 00:44:22 No, I'm, wait, not help like that. I feel like he just like makes his basic thing. Like he doesn't bake or anything. Oh, I bake. Kathy bakes. I bake. Yeah, I think I really would be a good baker. I think that's where I do.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I'd rather cook than bake. You know what? Because I don't follow the instructions to the tea. When you're cooking, you know, how much of this to add a little pin to this. And like it just like speaks to you. See I maybe because like I'm a picky eater. I don't know if cooking will ever speak to me in my soul. I think that's maybe that is going to be a little bit. You know, I got to say all this conversation of cooking, I got to go. I'm getting hungry. We got to wrap here. Hey. I know. I'm like we're going to order. We're going to order food in tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:05 All right. Well, all this talk of food, I'm getting hungry. It's time to wrap this episode. Bailey and Jeremy, thank you so much for joining us. It personally has been such a pleasure to catch up with both of you. And for me to see you smile, Jeremy, as much as you have here, I have a whole different feeling about you. I love it. And thank you to all of our listeners. We hope you enjoyed the two of them as much as we did.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Be sure to keep sending us your questions at bachelornation.com slash golden hour. and listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Until next time, have a great week. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today. This Black History Month, the podcast, I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. Digs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan. Brough had to pretend he didn't even. exist just to sell his own invention. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or simply wherever you get your podcast. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone.
Starting point is 00:47:05 America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Minelick Lamumba. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human

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