Bachelor Happy Hour - Bailey & Jeremy on Life After Paradise; Taylor Frankie Paul Bachelorette News

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re joined by “Paradise” lovebirds Bailey and Jeremy! After a long journey of highs and lows, the two are here to tell us all about their connect...ion, what’s to come, and so much more. Before our guests arrive, we start things off with the big news: Taylor Frankie Paul is the Bachelorette! Then, we bring in Jeremy & Bailey and kick things off, discussing the difficult parts of their journey and how they were able to support each other. They tell us how they navigated watching back the toughest parts, as well as the backlash they experienced online. Then, we get into everything that went down at the reunion. Where do they stand with Alexe and Andrew today? What were some moments that surprised them? Was anything left unsaid? Plus, we get to know all about meeting friends and family, their upcoming New York move, where they stand with Susie, and advice they have for future “Paradise” couples. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are. joined today with Bailey and Jeremy, but before we bring them in, we do have to talk about the news that's dropped, the new Bachelorette, Taylor Frankie Paul. What do you think? I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Me too. I personally. Smartest move the franchise has made maybe ever, in my opinion. Really? I think it's great. In my opinion, you know, and I know people are going to disagree with that, but I think it's fantastic. Why do you think that? Because I just think it's like, it's so, captivating like i i really want to watch oppose if you if you just took somebody from the franchisor and unknown i don't know like i don't know i wouldn't be as like i'm drawn in now like i need to see how this plays out and i think she's like the perfect girl for it i agree i am a fan of the secret lives of mormon wives on hulu well i've i've only seen the reunion with you i watched the reunion i was like oh this is this is fucking addicting yeah it's so
Starting point is 00:03:58 addicting. I'm on the edge of my seat for season three of November, which is going to come out. And then I'm assuming the Bachelorette will come out soon after that. So Frankie Paul has a big couple months ahead of her. I mean, she's going to film The Bachelorette. She's going to have two shows come out, The Bachelorette and Mormon wives. I mean, like, it's so exciting. I feel like the discourse online has been a lot of excitement around her. And then also criticism. which I think is in some ways a good thing. I think it gets people talking. It gets discourse around the topic, which I think will then drive viewership to the show, which is great. That's what we want. And I know that people are upset like, why are you changing it up, not choosing someone from the franchise?
Starting point is 00:04:45 I personally don't have an issue with it. I think that people have been calling for change within the franchise for a long time, but then sometimes when change comes, it feels uncomfortable and people rejected. I think this is a good change. I think that she's single. She's dynamic. gorgeous think she's looking for love that's the only requirement to be on the show yeah you'd be single and looking for love like the bachelor started I think the first like three or
Starting point is 00:05:07 four seasons it was like ex jesse palmer's like it was like football players yeah yeah people that were in the public eye that had you know social media wasn't a thing but they had an audience they had a fan base I love that she's on another show and I love the fact that there's two seasons of her on television that a bunch of guys will go on this show and they're probably going to be too lazy to even watch and they're going to have no idea who they're dating. That's what I'm almost most excited for is for the guys that come on that have like gone and done the research and like watch all this stuff about her.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And then on the flip, the guys that come on and are like, oh yeah, I heard she was on some other show. Yeah. But like didn't watch. Like don't know much about her. And it's like, oh, you're about to learn so much. Yeah. You're about to be in for a ride, buddy.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I can't wait to watch. I think just way to go, Bachelor. Very, very, very good move. I don't really say that often. Not that I have any issues. Not that I have any issues of what they do, but like, way to go. Yeah, compliments are hard to find from Joe. So when you get one, snatch it up.
Starting point is 00:06:15 But I'm really excited for her. I compliment a lot of people. Okay. I compliment of you today on that outfit. You did, you did. But I'm your wife, so it's a little bit different. But I'm, I can't wait to watch. I think that fans that are,
Starting point is 00:06:28 are, you know, looking to get more excited about the season or just learn more, I think you should go back and watch the show, like go watch Mormon wives, like get to know her, develop your opinion and maybe it'll even change when you watch her as the bachelor's. I think you're going to learn even more about her. I mean, we've seen her relationship play out in the last two seasons, but now we're watching our girl date and that's a whole different ballgame. And I think you're going to bring a new audience in which is which is also a pro um i'm here for it okay i think uh we have jeremy and bailey they are waiting should we bring them in yeah let's do it stay tuned for the new season of the bachelorette and let's talk to jeremy and bailey about their time
Starting point is 00:07:10 in paradise welcome back guys welcome back to a couple hi guys we're excited to be here honestly i'm not i'm not i'm not kidding i you know jeremy you are on gentsy you You went decently far. You didn't get a lot of air time, but you have been out of this podcast more than anyone. I swear I was thinking about that. Like, I've probably been on this podcast 10 times already. You've been on a lot. You've got,
Starting point is 00:07:41 you've got, you've got a lot of this podcast with like 10 people. You've been out of it with five years. It's silly. Yeah, we've done like you alone, you and a panel, you after tell all, and now you with your beautiful girl.
Starting point is 00:07:56 friend. So this is the perfect way to kind of summarize your journey on Bachelor Happy Hour. Sure. Done with Bachelor shows. Yeah. How are you guys? So how are you guys feeling post finale, post reunion right now? Yeah. I feel like I think we feel really good. We're slightly happy that the show is done. I think just having a mental break will be really good. And, you know, also being in public just normally, even though we've kind of been walking around like normal but um i think it just all feels like we're now able to like go into normal life and post reunion i feel like we handled a lot of things that we needed to handle with with certain
Starting point is 00:08:36 people and i feel like um we're really happy with the outcome and i feel like that's all we could ask for i think we all left being friends again and being on everyone's good graces and i feel like you know i think that's really all we wanted from the reunion and to like see our friends again And I feel like that happened. You two have had a pretty rough journey when it comes to, you know, the Bachelor Nation itself and how they feel about you guys. And I'm sure you guys have gotten a good amount of hate for sure. What is the temperature check now with everyone? Have they received you as a couple?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Are they? I mean, like, listen, it's tough because, like, it has been very rough, like, from a fan audience perspective. but like while we filmed it wasn't like that rough for us or like a few tough days and like you know so it does kind of suck with some of the reaction we've gotten but at the end of the day like it's a tv show and you know we try we try for it to like not get to us too much um it has gotten better though um and i think now that people see we're together and like how much effort we put in um for each other that it's been received better um and we hope it continues to get better um at the end of the day, like we, you know, we can only explain so much. And I think the audience is on
Starting point is 00:09:56 question. They have a lot of questions, but they're also like only willing to hear so much and half of it just goes through the ear anyway. Yeah, it's also, I think the reunion's a lot to digest. Yeah. Also, so I don't know, maybe people will need to listen to it a few times to really hear what we're saying. But I feel like it's been received pretty well. Like, I think now we are less stress and we're able to just like be our silly selves. I think it was like really hard during filming to just like want to laugh about everything. And I think now we can really enjoy it and just be able to like be fully authentically ourselves. Well like really we've just been like very taking a step back this whole season and not like posting so many silly things. I think just
Starting point is 00:10:41 because we've been really overwhelmed and it's been a harsh place. And so I think I think people getting to know us more will be really important and um but so far everyone's been really sweet and you know i get people have questions and they want answers and i hope that part of the reunion um answers those for them so well even if you like you know i think some people have to kind of it's hard because it's a show that they love and watch but i think like if you take a step back and realize like jeremy made some mistakes in a relationship that was 11 days old like like how many people are starting a relationship on hinge in the first 11 days you better believe they're saying some fucked up shit to their friends about that person you know that's kind of
Starting point is 00:11:30 ever like that's yeah literally that we've had this on the reunion actually we were I were like okay yes like some people's relationships here like those are unicorns like I feel like our relationship was pretty similar to like similar to how like similar to how real world works It's like when you're beginning to date someone, number one, you don't have to watch it back and see what they're thinking of and what they're going through. And number two, you also don't have to hear like how they're feeling. And I think there's doubts and there's stress in the beginning of relationships when you're starting. And when you're just like talking to someone and literally it was like an 11 day relationship. I think it was like, it was like nine days.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And it wasn't even really a relationship. I have to calm down. No, yeah. I know that's a year in Bachelor time, but it's not really. realistic to normal days. Like, we still are going through normal days as it seems. And I'd love to see their relationships with some of the people commenting and sending us DMs. I'd love to see how perfect I'm like, I also feel like no relationship is perfect. Nobody's perfect. So like, I don't know. I think everyone deserves grace, real world, and paradise.
Starting point is 00:12:36 It doesn't matter. Yeah. And ours is pretty damn good. But now there were a few days that like, and yeah, I can own up to it and like try to take accountability a million times, you know. There were a few tough days, but we're in a really, really great place now. Going into the reunion, did you guys have any sort of like overarching hope or goal, like something you really wanted to get across to the listeners or just like something you wanted people to take away from what you were saying? For me, personally, it was tough because I wanted to take accountability. I feel like I did on, you know, when I did the podcast by myself with you guys,
Starting point is 00:13:15 I feel like I've tried to, you know, in my own ways, but I, it's really tough to do it in a way also and also not try to be defensive. And it was a thin line. I was trying to walk. I didn't want to be like argumentative. Like I wanted to be there to support Bailey as well. And we weren't trying to like, we weren't trying to like throw hate on anyone. We were just trying to like be there and like see people and like show everyone how far our
Starting point is 00:13:40 relationship has gone. Yeah. I think just giving updates on like where we are now. I think that's also why people tune into the reunion to see where the couples are or if couples stayed together. I think that was really a big part of us, like also just taking accountability. I think also slightly addressing some of the hate because I feel like a lot of the cast this season, not just us, has received like overwhelming amounts of hate too. And it's a dark place to be in at times. And so I think that was really our thing.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I don't think that we came in like obviously there's moments where we've had like little tists with people on our cast. And we didn't come in with the goals of like addressing those. It's kind of like one of those things like, you know, if it comes up, we will address it then. I think we were also happy to address it in private, even if it didn't handle, even if it didn't get handled at the reunion. But I feel like we did get to leave the reunion feeling really peaceful and calm. Obviously, I think people will still have questions about like things that happen this season. But there's not enough time to address everything always. And I feel like everyone deserves a chance to talk.
Starting point is 00:14:40 and really we did not want it to be like Bailey and Jeremy show. It's like, you know, I think everyone has so many things to get off their chest and they did that in the reunion. So I think we got a good amount of things covered and I feel like that's all we can ask for. Is there anything that you feel has gone unaddressed that you would like to address now? I think it was just like more stuff like we didn't really talk about like so many of like the good moments from our show. And we've talked about us in your podcast before, but there were just like so many good things. that we wish were shown or so many things that might have been like people think something
Starting point is 00:15:15 happened that didn't exactly happen the way like the first thing that comes to mind the first thing that comes to mind is like uh like when she came in to talk about like the phone call like i get if you're just like a normal audience viewer i get why you might not like me for certain things or might not support this but like you just need to remember it's a tv show like if you don't want to be happy for us where we're at right now fine just don't leave nasty comments like keep it to yourself yeah and i think that's a good thing for everyone like maybe just keep those comments to yourself i don't know yeah or like text your mom send it to your girlfriends like that's like no one sends hateful dms to each other you like i'm like oh talk shit to your friends they make you see it there but yeah i think that was
Starting point is 00:16:00 like it i wish we just there was not enough time to go through certain things i think everyone has little moments of things that they wanted to cover. And yeah, like him not walking after me, like getting up to walk after me. I was like, I wish we had time to cover that and explain like that. I also wish I think for everyone that we could have like a timeline of like where days were and when things actually happened and how things got dragged out. And I think also we got to mention a little bit just like about where our mental space was for everybody. But like I think when the competition started for sure, I think that everyone was really locked in on their couples. And I think that that kind of played to. I think people were really upset that
Starting point is 00:16:38 some people didn't tell me about things. And I also think that I understand where people are coming from of being like, you're locked in on your couple and you're locked in on the competition. And sometimes you're not really thinking about everything else that's going on. It's like you're just so focused because like when we were there, we're going to bed, like remembering that you have a competition tomorrow and you want to like be mentally ready for that competition. Obviously, we have no idea what's going to be thrown at us. every day in paradise. So I feel like everyone's mental. We were just all focused on so many things at once. It was really hard to be like, okay, well, you know, point fingers about a lot of different
Starting point is 00:17:15 things while we were there. So I do feel like we got to cover a good amount of things. So yeah. This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen. Slammer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995,
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Starting point is 00:22:13 So we were good friends on the show. And we actually, we visited the, oh, we saw you, Joe. We visited them in Chicago. Yeah, I was like, I mean, I saw you guys together before the show appeared. And you all seemed like, yeah, you were really good friends. Yeah, yeah. And we were, we visited them in Chicago before the show aired. And I think it was just like...
Starting point is 00:22:34 Like miscommunication. Yeah, I think it was like miscommunication. Like we were getting hate for a lot of the season and they were getting hate for a little bit. And I feel like both parties felt like each other. Yeah, they'd have done a better job, like reaching out. Yeah. And it was also a tough place where like both like, like we wanted to also like protect our partners and we don't want to like, this step but so obviously there was like i haven't re listened to the reunion but i know there was
Starting point is 00:23:02 like a bit of a back and forth but like during like we did you know make up with them and like we're hanging out yeah after and we're in a good place yeah i would say we're in a really good place and i think for alex and i i think it's just overwhelming like it's not it's hard even if you're just receiving hate for a week or two weeks like it's still a lot on you and i think also sometimes when you are receiving hate it feels like it's hard to also reach out to other people and I think that was a conversation that Alex and I both had and I also understand like defensiveness coming from like Jeremy and Andrew because it's like they want to protect us and like we're you know our mental's in the ground so I think it's also like it's just a lot of stress and I'm really happy that like we got to clear that up because like I didn't want to feel like leaving paradise and leaving this reunion like I didn't have friends that I made there and you know I like those were those are all of our people and like I feel like we really really got to leave on a good page with honestly everybody there and i think that's like all we could have really asked for yeah and it really was like a great cast there and a family there and only those
Starting point is 00:24:09 people know exactly what we went through um so i'm glad we're able to like stay friends with everyone yeah nice how was the vibe at the after party i heard after the reunion you guys all went out yeah i mean we just went i don't know but there was so much of it an after party but there was a little dinner in a nice situation but no it was fun everyone everyone was in good spirits yeah i feel like we were all like we're all just hanging out even after we filmed the podcast we honestly like we're all because you know after you film podcast like certain people are going to do like many podcasts or many talks and we're all just filming content and just sitting there and talking with each other and it just felt like we honestly just got to be like silly again and laugh i think this season has
Starting point is 00:24:49 been a little bit very like intensely emotional and i feel like we all haven't really got gotten that much time to laugh about things and laugh about each other and laugh about what happened there. And I feel like that was really good. We got to do that after the reunion. I feel like that's literally like we were all everyone like Alicia, Kat, like Greece, like we were all, I mean, Alex and I, like, we were all together. And I feel like that's really like what you want. I think we all kind of realized too that this is probably the last time we're all going to be in the same place. Yeah. And like everything is like we tried to let, you know, move past in just like have fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's therapeutic yeah it was really therapeutic it is too it's like you know after after the show
Starting point is 00:25:30 airs and stuff you kind of like look back and like in even a few months from now you're going to look back and be like that was such a good time like we actually have a good time down there okay so you guys announced some news you are moving in together yeah yeah we don't have a definite day yeah but like definitely by the end of the year yeah by the end of the year for sure. Um, I have a lot of clothes. So I think just it's going to be a really good luck. Like a giant loft and it's there's nothing up there. He has like four things up there. And so I'm going to throw all my shit up there. Um, everything. Um, but yeah, I think going through all my clothes is going to be hard and deciding what I'm going to like pick and choose to bring to New York
Starting point is 00:26:14 will be really cool. Um, and also very stressful. So I think that's we have a lot of traveling coming up. So kind of after we slow down on the traveling, when it's like freezing cold in New York, that's what we'll start doing. Nice. Yeah, perfect time. Perfect time. Perfect time to move. What does the traveling look like?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Where are you guys going? I'm going to Abu Dhabi into China. Oh, wow. On the 24th of September, I leave to go to Abu Dhabi, and then I'm going to be in China. So that'll be really cool. I've always, like, wanted to go to China. And that's going to be, like, awesome. And we have some fun things.
Starting point is 00:26:49 he's working on that i don't think he's allowed to share yet but you know stay tuned i think that will be really cool and then yeah well we're gonna just take it day by day and yeah keep planning our future so it's been really good nice and then you'll move into jeremy's current apartment yeah he resigned his lease okay nice you have some lot time oh this process is a reset i don't want to think not how one is it jeremy you have a one bedroom or two bedroom it's a one bedroom but it's it's It's kind of like a weird, like, setup where it's like a one bedroom, but I have two full bathrooms and it's like a amazing. I got very lucky with it. So I don't want to lose it.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, no, that's nice. Oh my gosh, Bailey, you'll have your own bathroom. I know. It's so nice. I'm like, get away from me. How has the, yeah, we'll have a poop bathroom and then a normal bathroom. There you go. It's his personal bathroom.
Starting point is 00:27:46 How is the meeting the family? and friends been going? It's been great. So I blew out to Portugal and met her mom and sister, which was great. I mean, I'd never been to Portugal, so I had so much fun. And then I also was in Atlanta and met her brother and I met a bunch of her friends. And she had met, she actually met some of my family in Chicago. I have like cousins and aunts and uncles out there. And she has met my dad and his wife and my older sister, but she hasn't met my mom or younger sister. Yeah. So we're figuring out, yeah. We've been. traveling a lot. So I feel like, you know, we've got to figure out time to like go to Connecticut
Starting point is 00:28:23 and really get to see everyone. But yeah, we've been doing a lot of friends. It turns out we have a lot of friends. So that will be really like, okay, more friends are keeping a list of everyone. But yeah, I feel like we've been doing a good job of like facetiming our friends and doing introductions that way. And he's met a lot of my best friends as well. So I feel like, you know, we're working towards meeting everyone that really matters. And I feel like it's been really good. Has everyone in your life been supportive of your relationship, or have you had some criticism? I think that, I think, honestly, what really helped is he got to meet a lot of my friends before the show aired. So I feel like they got to really get to know him as a person.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And I think that's what really helped being able to separate these small moments of drama of, like, where you would think your friend should be questioning things. And I think my friends realized that this is still a TV show. like they have gotten to really know him like inside and out. And so I feel like we've been honestly really well received by like all of our friends and family. Um, honestly my mom like didn't watch. She was like it's too much TV. She's like respectfully love you guys.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But she's like, I do not have time for that. So her friends like send her recaps and it's really funny. And she'll watch, she watches TikTok. So she'll watch like recaps on TikTok. I love that. I love that your mom. I don't have time. She was like it was top three episodes for.
Starting point is 00:29:47 grant season. She's like, you're on all 10? She's like, Bailey, I was hoping you were going to make it that far. I thought you were going to be there for two weeks. She's like, why are you on every episode? There's three hours long. I was like, I know, girl. I'm sorry. She's like, sit down and watch me. She's like, I can't. Portugal too. So it's like, you know, it's five hours ahead. So she's like, so I have to stay up till 2 a.m. and watch this. She's like, no, I'm good. she's like you just tell me you know literally she's like you just tell me and everyone just text
Starting point is 00:30:20 her updates but I feel like I feel like your mom didn't really fully watch she watched no my mom watched I mean the thing my friends and family like they know I could be an idiot and they also know like I also know how I am as a person so like they don't really yeah I feel they were laughing they were like oh
Starting point is 00:30:36 you're being like that's a joke and other people didn't know it was a joke and then in terms of like even before they met like my friends and family trust me so they know if I love someone, they'll love them as well. Yeah, same. I feel like both of our friends and family really trust, like, our decision-making skills. So I feel like that's also really peaceful.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So we're really lucky that everyone's been, like, really supportive of this journey and really happy that it's also, like, slightly over for us that we can have, like, called moments finally. And so, yeah, we're excited. During the reunion, Jeremy, we hear you say to Kathy, like, don't. take my words out of context. Yeah. Why do you think she did that?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Well, I think it was two, I think two parts, but that original part she was talking about, I think was literally from the night before when I saw her in the hotel. And I don't even remember what she said. Oh, I know. So basically she said something. Kathy came to our hotel room before the reunion was film because she was like on the same floor as us. And Prisa did too.
Starting point is 00:31:38 We were all there. We were like looking at seals outside of our balcony. And we were like making. jokes because I think like me, Kathy and Jeremy were all tourists and we all have like really dark sense of humors. I think Kathy especially. And so she'll always make jokes and be like, you know, I love you. And then Jeremy calls her a traitor for sending us home, which like she is the reason we went home and like we stand by that. I'm like, Kathy, I love you. I adore you. But like, you still sent me home. You know, like there's still a little beep. No, there's not real beef.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But we just like, you cost me half a mill. Kathy. I'm like, okay, you owe me $500,000, Kathy. So I don't know like pay up i'll take monthly installments at this point um but yeah so we always just have this like little banter back and forth and she just asked jeremy she's like do you still hate the goldens and he was like i don't and then also like referencing the thing i said in the day i'm like no like first i and i explained myself on the reunion i wasn't a fan of them coming to the beach at first i ended up you know loving keith and kathy when i made that comment i was like yeah like i didn't want to stand around and listen to these long monologues forever when i was like trying to talk to bailey um But no, I, like, I don't hate, I happen to, like, love Keith and Kathy.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Kathy's, we give each other shit. I tell her, I'm like, she's like my aunt where, like, we'll just go and, like, fuck around and, like, talk shit about each other. Yeah, Kathy, like, loves to talk shit, which I love. She's still mad at Serena for, like, for like two years. No, I think we actually find, I'm like, no, Kathy does hold grudges. That's absolutely not true. Oh, you're going to say that right now.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You're going to say that. Yes. And Kathy, if you're listening. I stand by this comment, you hold grudges, okay? Literally, she looked us in the eye and she was like, I don't hold grudges. I'm like, Kathy, you're a tourist, you do hold grudges. And I know because I hold grud, like, I have had grudges for like 20 years. Like, I'm full in the paint.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like, I stand 10 toes down on some things. And I'm like, Kathy, you 100% do hold grudges. I love you. I think so, too. I think so, too. Kathy, I just want to let you know if you are listening to this. I'm staying out of it. So just, just to let you know.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Joe is not enough. Me and Kathy are cool. She's invited us down to Austin. We love her. She talks a lot. This is a tape recording statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.
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Starting point is 00:38:36 Parolement of Paradise period. Parliament of Paradise. Were you guys completely shocked over the whole Sean, cat, cat's got a boyfriend who she's texting? Yeah, there's a good shot of you, Jeremy. Yeah, you just did. What you just did was what you did. Yeah, like, how could you not be shocked?
Starting point is 00:38:54 I didn't know really about any of that. So I was kind of, I was kind of surprised. Yeah, we were just like fresh off getting eliminated also. So like, I think he got eliminated and they were like, surprise you're not going home and we were like what you'll be back and see back and like obviously at that moment we like had a little bit of revenge in our mind I think that's why we wore black and we were like you know we're going to be do all but then we're also just like we love these people like they're our friends and when we got they were just like ah you know whatever whatever revenge but
Starting point is 00:39:26 yeah I think that was really crazy like we were very shocked I know Sean and Alicia did you weren't with me, but they just let me know that they were going to talk about things. They wanted everyone to know, like, the truth or, you know, whatever. They wanted to get things off their chest. And I was like, and it's hard because I think in that moment, you don't want to be seen like going around and having small conversations. So it's like you're faced with two evils. It's like, do you address the whole group or do you go around to everyone and have all these side conversations? And so. Yeah. And you do see her say that in the finale where she's like, did we make the wrong decision? but like the alternative is pulling everyone one by one and then that's also sneaky i mean i feel like
Starting point is 00:40:07 they were committed to saying their peace it was more just a matter of like how they were yeah i think that's why they stayed because they were like we have this information and we we wanted to be shared um so yeah yeah shocking for sure yeah it was shocking i feel like every day in paradise was shocking i i never had a dull moment um we were in war every day finding that who um who did you guys for it for the jury of peers did you vote for we voted set we voted yeah differently i voted for jess and spencer to share the prize money with alex and andrew uh jeremy i've readges in the in the reunion i yeah voted for no one to move forward and as nothing to do besides for alex and andrew they were already like in the finals at that point
Starting point is 00:40:57 and nothing to do i by the way spencer and dale are both good friends of mine like i love them both, but I had nothing to do besides the fact that they both sent me home. They both voted to send me home. Like, why would I not vote to send you home? Yeah. I mean, have a burden. They're like, you hundred and me out of half a million. I'm not going to give you half a million. Yeah. And like me and Spencer, we talked about it that night. We talked about it multiple times. We talked about it yesterday. Yeah. We were still friends when that happened. We're still friends after. And honestly, I also was just like, I know if Justin Spencer do when,
Starting point is 00:41:29 they're going to take us to Disney on an all expense paid vacation. So I'm in it. And not for nothing. I also knew that I was probably one of the only people voting like that. Like I knew no matter what that Jess and Spencer were moving forward. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah, I don't think it was a surprise as a viewer that that's kind of how the vote swung. If you guys had been the only couple at the end and it was between each other or half a mill, have you thought about what you would have done? We talked about this once because while we were still there, we were like, what if the final challenge is choosing money or love? I was like, yeah, like I'll take the money for us so we have money and then we'll just rekindle the next day. And all of the- Whenever the contract goes out.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I mean, yeah, that's just like so that like, why wouldn't you do that? I'm like, that's $500,000. I'll tell you why. It's because people are like too scared to look like a, like a douchebag on TV. Like, I will gladly do that for a quarter million that we get a split. Yeah. Or half a million. much it was going to be yeah yeah Bailey's just standing there like Jeremy's down with a bag of money
Starting point is 00:42:33 she's like hey see you tomorrow I got me to New York and like I'd already like obviously we could just like DM each other the next day or something but I'd already like memorized her phone number so like he's like he was like I know who I'm texting is we thought we were going to be like separated also we got eliminated and we actually just got to leave together which was really nice like fully together um so he was like memorizing my phone number so that he could text me as soon as we got our phones. But yeah, we did talk about it. And obviously, you know, I was going to pick love because that's me
Starting point is 00:43:06 and he was going to pick money so that we could survive and do everything we wanted. So the way the show used to work and it kind of still does is it was an engagement at the end. You guys were close to the end. Did you have a conversation about a potential engagement? Yeah. I mean, the conversation for us was like that we're not ready for that. And I'm very happy for Justin Spencer, love them both. But like we were, even though we're in the show,
Starting point is 00:43:34 we're also trying to take it like normal life, which is hard to do. I asked her to be my girlfriend at the end. I thought that was a big step. I would never have done that if, you know, I wasn't serious about it. But I don't think either of us would have been ready for a real engagement after, you know, a few weeks,
Starting point is 00:43:51 no matter how well you get to know someone after a few weeks. And neither of us like wanted just getting engaged for the hell of it. Yeah, like I definitely didn't want to, I think also just like where we were emotionally, I can't fathom us getting engaged. And then like if it didn't work in the real world, I would be like very distraught. So I feel like, obviously you come to the show thinking you might get engaged. Like, did I bring a dress? Of course. I'm prepared for everything. But I was, I think as we kind of got closer, we were just like, oh, wait, we just can't fathom doing this right now for us at least. Like, I think we really wanted to like acclimate into normal life. And we knew that we had
Starting point is 00:44:27 distance and a lot of things in the way and just we want to make sure that that would work outside of paradise too so and it does yeah and it does so i feel like you know everyone's on their own timeline and everyone else everyone has different goals in mind and i feel like we made the right decision for us and yeah we're really happy yeah like regardless of what anyone says like we're we're a couple that got engaged and it worked but like there's a a big part of doing that there's like luck involved like we got we got luck it's a risk it's a big risk because you really do only know each other for 18 days yeah like we were like well see how this goes like if that was if it was if it was the regular if we were in the real world and I met serena and then 18 days later I asked her to marry me
Starting point is 00:45:13 she would have been she would be like this guy's and be like I'm getting a restraining right yeah yeah you're like oh he's insane yeah I mean on the flip side I do slightly get it in the sense that like time moves different so like 18 or however long on parrida that's three years that's three years that's obviously so um it's you know bachelor nation is small in terms of the contestants that have been on this show is it going to be awkward if you guys run into susy have you run into susy no i don't actually so i feel like i have so much love for susy i think she's literally the greatest person of her she's so sweet she's so amazing she's so nice um and actually after i don't know what episode it was but after basically the phone call came to light she sent me a literally the sweetest message i've ever
Starting point is 00:46:06 received it was very long and i had to take some time to actually read it because i was overwhelmed in that moment um but the message was really encouraging and i and you know she just let me in on like a little bit of details about their date and how jeremy spoke about me on the date and she was like I know he had moments of doubt, but she was like, on the date, I knew that he wasn't going to pick me. I knew he was going to pick you based on how he spoke about you. And I think that was a really, you know, calming thread. And she's always sending me nice messages. And I sent her a really grateful message for that. And, you know, I'm always going to support her and cheer her on. And hopefully when I'm in LA again, we'll find some time to like hang out and do something because I
Starting point is 00:46:45 actually met her at like Grant's AFR. So, and she was so sweet. then. So, yeah, I think we'll definitely continue a friendship. And I feel like there's no, there's no bad blood. There's no beef. Obviously, we wish that her name, like, wouldn't have been dragged on for so long. I think that that's really hard for her to have to, like, deal with. It's like, dang, she's still getting brought up, you know? Yeah. This girl got an hour screen. It's like, it's hard for both of us. But I do really feel for her. I feel like of just being like, okay, you left. And then like, you know, that next episode happened where her name was brought up again. But, and then,
Starting point is 00:47:22 later it's like four episodes later it's like it's still brought up so yeah that was intense i also feel like the comment on the finale of susie who was a little bit intense and very unnecessary i don't even think he didn't even notice it but i did and i was like oh my god that's really intense because that's really not how we view it there's no like you know bad blood obviously he's like keeping distance because that would be crazy but you know i have i really do like think she's an amazing person so yeah yeah wow that's so nice that she reached out to you and like kind of supported both of you in that way like in like your relationship journey he's such a good person i feel like she's really honestly just like
Starting point is 00:48:02 making jokes and laughs about it and i think that's all that you can do like it's just be silly about it because there's no bad blood um any for a couple you guys have you went through a lot um a lot of backlash and you guys have made it through made it through the storm any advice you would give to a couple that kind of goes through it you know next season of paradise yeah i'll give the advice that i give to her which is like stay off reddit like who care that these 50 people are saying like don't look in the like i could tell for her the difference like if we wake up one morning and she looks at like comments on like instagrams or doesn't like i could tell the difference yeah how she's acting yeah it's i mean it's much easy like i i have pretty thick skin and
Starting point is 00:48:49 you get tens of thousands of comments like they could start to get to you and it gets to a point where it's hard not to look but also after being through it all of it like try to stay out of the comments and like just laugh at it yeah like maybe laugh at it like after the drama but like laugh at it yeah and I think also just like I think also Alex and Andrew mentioned this at the reunion but just being able to like restart your relationship when you come home obviously you take the foundation that you built in paradise. But I think also just restarting and living normal life together is really important. And I think that's what really like helped us and made us realize that we really do like love each other. This like love that we started with and felt while
Starting point is 00:49:32 we were there actually did translate for us. And I think that was really important too. And yeah, spending a lot of time together. I feel like coming, you go from paradise where you're with each other all day, every day. You barely spend time alone. And so I think it was really important for us to always keep planning trips and like making you know as many advanced plans as we can of just yeah look forward to that was super important because we've both previously been in like long distance relationships and we both didn't want that so we were like we need to put an effort there and it's honestly been super easy and we've spent like the majority of the time yeah next to each other since since the show ended film it that's amazing I think that's I think that's
Starting point is 00:50:12 the correct advice well I do I do actually that that's kind of what I've always said. Thank you guys so much for coming on. I truly think you guys are going to make it like all the way. That's my prediction. We believe in you guys. We're really happy for you guys. I do believe in you guys.
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