Bachelor Happy Hour - Be Unapologetically You with Hannah Brown!

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Today on Happy Hour we are here with none other than THE Hannah Brown! Hannah is back on Happy Hour to talk all things Bachelorette and so much more! We jump right into today's episode with Hannah's newest book Mistakes We Never Made, getting a deeper look into her writing process, inspiration, and more. Then, we do a look back at her Night 1; we get into the drama, the standouts, and the answer to our big question - why did we barely see Tyler Cameron?! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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Is that correct? New York Times Not just the state of New York New York Times best seller The State of New York Sorry yeah New York Times best seller two times, Hannah Brown.

Hannah, welcome to Happy Hour again. I'm so glad to be here. It's a fun time. Last of you were here was, I believe, almost year ago last summer, and we were talking about your first book, I believe. Or was it this one that we were talking about? I feel like we talked. No, we were talking about this.

We were talking about you were currently in the process. I think you were finished writing it, but you were in the process of going through the publishing and all that. Yes. Yes, I think so, yeah, because it wasn't, like, out for everyone yet, but had announced it, I think. Yes, I think that's what it was. You had announced that you were coming out with a second book. Yeah.

Well, wow, what a full circle moment. Yeah. Okay, so the book is, the book is called Mistakes We Never Made. We have it right here. Now, my first question, what is more difficult writing an autobiography, like your first one? or a non a fiction a novel yeah were you to say a non autobiography I swear I'm so stupid today I just I've had I've had a lot of coffee so it's just it's just pure stupidity yeah I have I mean I'm always apologizing for whatever's coming in my mouth because I'm like I don't know if it's making sense at all but they're they were both difficult in like totally different ways obviously like writing my quarter life memoir

of everything I'd like experience up to the ripe age of 25 was difficult because it was a lot of things I had really was just processing for the first time and it really affected me emotionally

I will say like it was a really tough season like even just like waiting for it to come out was so hard for me. Like, I was not in the best state because I was just like, oh, my gosh, what are people going to think? What are people going to view me differently? Can I adequately express myself in words in a way that people will, like, understand more about me?

You know, there was a lot of that. And with this book, it was really hard because, like, I've never written a novel before, and I don't know the plot points. like I can know the plot points of my own life. I've lived that, I've experienced that, like making up a whole new world and ecosystem that is mistakes we never made,

even though, you know, it's not like I'm writing fantasy and really having to make up, you know, everything, but still, like trying to, like, create characters to have depth

and people to, like, relate to. It was in story. Like, heck, I can't even, like, finish a sentence as I'm talking. sometimes. So to be able to like stay organized and create a story that has through lines that people can like keep up with was really hard. And so I'm so thankful for the team that I had for my editor and for my ghostwriter, um, co-author that like helped me was really, they gave me like the encouragement to be able to feel like, okay, you can do this. And we're going to

help you with the part that you've never done before um so it was i think the they're both hard totally different ways okay yeah before before you before you write the story do you create the world first and then write the story or do you kind of like create and write the story as it as you're moving um so people do it differently for this project so interesting i'm working on books my second novel right now and it's different than the first one did where they both have started out with a general we've already done the plot points like we kind of we're not just writing and just seeing where it goes we've created the story and then go into writing of like who do you want these people to be

and what is the journey that they're going on and then it's like, okay, we get into the page and then you have to like add all the the in-between to the different places that we want to go in the story. So it's a little bit of both. I mean, the first book came together pretty seamlessly. Honestly, it was the story that I wanted it to be,

like I kind of have had this idea about like having, like a group of girlfriends that people ask like are is emma or who is it you and it's like the idea was for these group of girlfriends to be kind of parts of me um and exploring that part if i was more of that part of myself like what type of character or person would i be um that was like the initial thought like i actually had like a full different project that like never came to be before even this one that had that similar thing, but it was a young adult novel. And then scratch that, but that same, like, friendship being kind of the center and then

exploring, you know, the main character of from the friend group and her journey for love and then how, you know, the friends in your life, how, you know, they are part of that love story and kind of a separate love story in itself of your your friendship um and then it was like okay so how are we going to do that and who who's kind of going to be the first friend that i kind of expand and then and then it all started so is that is that where book two is going to go is like a different friend in that existing friend group yes okay so it'll kind of be like a series, but it won't be following one character. Yeah.

Sometimes when you say series, people think, like, oh, like there's going to be like some cliffhanger. I guess my book kind of did. I mean, I kind of did mean for it to have a cliffhanger. I wanted people to know more, but like the story of Eminem Finn is like tied together with a bow. But I did want people to be interested enough in some of the other characters to want to know, okay, like what's going on in there,

world for me to write a next book, you know, exploring that so people are excited about it. So, yes, it is a series, but they all kind of like standalone for sure. Okay, nice. What happens when you get, what do you do when you get stuck? Because I'm assuming there's got to be point times where you get like writers block or whatever and you're kind of just stuck. Yeah, I get stuck a lot. Especially like, it's weird.

I was thinking about this this morning. I sometimes have a hard time to ask like how do you write I'm like for myself when it's not work I have a really hard time I've been I've been blocked for a while honestly on that and I don't know why I need to explore that more

I like have to push myself to write with this because there's a team and there are people that are sitting on top of me and that I can like reach out to and help and they're supporting and it's not just me it makes it a lot easier. Like, I'm so, I had, like, the privilege to be able to lean on people, and I'm like,

I don't know how I'm feeling about this. This is how one needs to go, but it kind of sounds like this. Or I don't know where this character should really go. This is not fully panning out. Like, I have lifelines to reach out to and to really help make this book better than it could be if it was just, just me. Like, truly editors and how. having the editor that I've had and co-author and just the team, like, so to think before.

We worked so seamlessly together. And that's not always the case, even when you do have, you know, your editor and stuff. So, like, I've been really fortunate to just have people who, like, understand me and value everything I have to say, but also, like, can give their experience and their feedback in a way that it's still saying true to my voice, but helping, like, ground the book with the experience and knowledge they have. Nice. Yeah, that's, that makes sense. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemail Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics.

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whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to No Such Thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How did you pick the cover or design it? I kind of just, because I'm a reader myself and one of my favorite places to be is Barnes & Noble. I kind of just looked at things that I,

like I was drawn to. I love like a Taylor Jenkins read, like her like Malau Rising. And then like even like it's so beautiful. or like a carly kitchen and more that like I was going to say it reminds me of um I feel like it has a similar side just like meet me did you read meet me by the lake it has like kind of like the like the bright like colorful it has like a summer feel to it like the font yes that was really important to me I get like I think we're working on my paperback version of the book and it will

have more like uh it'll be different. it's weird like people ask like how did you pick the cover I'm like I did go off of like what I prefer but there's also a whole part of it as like market research of what people are like drawn to going to like a fun answer but it's just true but that's an interesting answer because I feel like that's like the data that people just don't know you have to use it's like you're using like what like I'm drawn to what readers are drawn to to like figure it out it's like this is but I'm subconsciously drawn to. I didn't even know.

Yes, definitely. Have you read first wing? No, fourth wing. Fourth wing. Fuck. You're, Joe's reading Iron Flame right now. I am, yeah.

He's on number two. I'm reading a court of Mist and Fury. We're like really in our fantasy era in this apartment. Oh my gosh. I love that. I have read Akatar. I haven't finished them because I got stuck in the third book. The one that you,

you're on is so good. That's what everyone's I'm I'm halfway through the second one right now and it's so good it's it's just got now like really good um and everyone says the ending's crazy the first one like was a struggle to get through but the third one was really hard for me and I kind of got like stuck in it if you're like you just got it yeah people say it is one of the one but the fourth and fifth they're supposed to be so good so I'm like someone danny who does um bashination dot com she was telling me the whatever the shortest one is. It's the best. No, she said to skip it.

She was like, you could just, she's like, you could honestly just, you could literally skip that one. It's like a spin-off book situation where you like don't need to read it. I mean, I'm not going to, but like, I was like, oh, okay. But I feel like everyone has different like perceptions of the series and like where their favorite moments live. But I genuinely think everybody, the third one says it's harder. Like, it is a harder.

And I was just doing a lot and I kind of like faded off of it. Well, they're not short either. If it's a hard read, you're like, 800 pages. It's something ridiculous. So, our 900, I don't remember. The one that I got sucked in, I think, I have more up there. The big boy, it's the big one. But the fourth wing, right?

I had so many people on my book to be like, you have to read these books. Oh, you haven't read it yet? I haven't. It's so good. It is really good. Truly, it's so good. And it's written in a way that it's like. I hate that I like it.

Well, it's like an addicting. because it's just constantly like something is happening you're constantly on a cliffhanger like it moves so fast so it's like a fat book it's matt like it's very thick but like i it's like i've never read a book so fast like we went to mi and i love that in like four days because i was just like i can't stop i i love when that happens like when i'm like so sucked in on like a big book like some people don't uh like the women or any christin hannah books out like they're bigger but like i i it like so sucked into obvious it's different it's historical fiction but like i love i love having a it's i think it's great if you have time to be able to like consume a book like that but like my book i feel like it was important for me to like make sure it's one of those that people could like pick up read and i've had so many people with me like i literally read your book in a day and i'm like that's what i want it to be that's like the biggest compliment yes yeah that you You can consume in one or two sittings and feel like light afterwards.

Yeah. I love that. Yeah. All right. Let's jump to reality TV, but something that doesn't make you think too much. We'll go to your, so we recapt your night one. Let's start with Chris Harrison calling you, asking you to be the bachelorette. How shocked were you in that moment?

who else were you expecting could potentially be that next lead? Like, who did you think you were competing with? I was genuinely so shocked. Like, obviously I... Yeah, you could tell watching it. Yeah. I had done interviews for it, but, you know, up and to that point, there had never been a bachelor that wasn't in, like, a final, like, going to hometown.

So, me, you didn't being... having those conversations, I think sometimes it, like, hurt me because I'm like, I don't know if this is going to happen. Like, I think I could be a good option. Like, for this. Like, I'm so genuine about the whole experience. And I just, it was like, are these people going to see me and see what I can offer? And I just didn't know.

And the reason that they even, like, why it still was so shocking. they're like there's obviously there was cameras in my houses that they were they told me that they were going and I and they did kind of wait to the last minute to make the decision so like we're waiting it's taking so long that we've got to start getting some type of be wrong stuff going so I was like okay and they came to the house and so I just genuinely was so shocked I remember one of the producers that means she was acting here you were in my room and she's like hey let's just go out to the living room and I was like okay and she had like there was a phone my phone and I guess she had like put Chris Harrison's name

I don't remember but it was something weird and I'm like why is this on my phone and then like opened it and then I will never forget I was sitting on the couch with it and like in storms all the cameras because actually the cameras weren't there I didn't see the cameras only the producers there were to scout so I was just they were getting my family and everything and then these like cameras just rushed through the front door and I was, oh my God, this is real. I personally think that's like best case scenario. That you don't have time.

Yeah, I feel like if you almost want to just like, yeah, just throw me into the wolf's kind of situation. Even like when I, when I did, when they asked me to do dancing with the stars, it was the same thing. I was shocked. They asked me on, Chris Harrison asked me on stage. And I walked backstage like, hey, you have 48 hours. You have to go back to Chicago and move your stuff to LA. And I was like, all right. but if I had time to think about it like if I had a month I feel like I wouldn't have done it I would have been so stressed out yes um yes and no I think being prepared to do the dance like a day at show I could see like the fear of that but I think having a little time to prep for what it actually means to be the bachelorette and the vulnerability of like trying to meet somebody and like even though you're so

enough to be able to stand in that confidence of what it takes to like receive all that I think I would have loved to have a little time because I was already feeling like an underdog like you said like they typically go with someone I think literally up until your season who is in final four who's like at the very least on a hometown date so you're probably thinking like yeah there's three girls that they're talking to that like we're all in his top four from the same season you were like you're probably feeling like I'm an option but like am I actually going to get it like when there's no one before you that has gotten it that hasn't made it to hometowns and you do look so shocked so it makes sense because I was like I would I would have thought like the cameras might

have given you like a little like something's going on here but like to feel like you're already in that position of like I don't think I'm going to get it and then like have them rushing in while you're already on the phone like that must have been so overwhelming and then being a girl Like, I just think about, like, the three-day prep I do to go on, like, a four-day, like, beach vacation. Like, I can't, like, I can't imagine, like, being like, okay, you're going to be leaving to be, like, the lead of this show. Like, good luck. I'd be like, I need to go get my hair done. I need to go to Pilates.

Like, I don't know. I need to buy, like, my whitening strips. Like, I got a lot to do. Yeah. Like, I had nothing. Like, and genuinely, like, that was really, really hard. like I've had so many meltdowns when we were doing like our first interviews and there's obvious there's like a stylist Carrie who does the wardrobe and everything and I we're so close

to this day like he'll literally just text me like he loves me and he like bought my book and like we are very very close um but he was like that first time I met you I was like oh my god what's because I just would start crying because I'm like I don't I just felt so overwhelmed I had literally nothing um ready prepared and i'm just having to trust these people to take me around it was a lot um but also in the same breath like it was it was so exciting i was like my life genuinely like completely just changed in a matter of seconds my brain like doesn't know how to compute this um and it was it was it was really through all the emotional breakdowns like it was fun i feel like one of one of the reasons why people loved you so much

is because when you're on the show and I do think this is somewhat of a talent I don't think there hasn't been I don't think every lead has this you really are genuinely yourself is that easy to do were you ever fighting that were you ever like

I should maybe be a little more reserved here or I shouldn't really say how I feel because I don't want to open up right now. I think the one time that I thought it was my first day with Colton when I was on The Bachelor. That was like such like I did not even though still being so genuine but like I think I was having that struggle of like I don't know how to not be myself but I feel like I shouldn't be and I'm trying to like and it was a disaster and I think from that I was like okay I literally can't pretend so we're just have to go like.

fully into this um yeah i don't think i really know another way to be and i'm really bad at the alternative so it's like i only have one option same same i yeah i'm the same way i mean that's why i went home night one because i was truly like i was like okay you need to be like you have to be smooth you got to be really you know slick about this and i i i just i'm like i'm so bad at it like i could only be myself which is a mumbling imbecile that that's that's sort of And I'm so thankful I will say, like, I do think the show kind of cater helped change the way that it did things to cater to my strength and allowed me to be that way and kind of, like, gave me a little room to flex and to figure things out and to mumble through it and to say the wrong thing and to, they always, like, made fun. like you it's so interesting like you you you're thinking while you're talking so it might take you a second but then you finally get there and then it's something like really like oh wow

like you feel that but it takes a second and before me it felt like the bachelors were always had like this perfect answer and knew exactly what to say and did the right thing and that they just allowed me to to be myself like i'm i'm genuinely like so thankful because if they if they had tried to like rain me in some way it would have been really really bad um like genuinely really bad like i'll do things sometimes you know now like different opportunities and i can feel myself wanting to like emulate what i think they want me to be and it sucks every time like it's it's like that is not like what i'm good at i'm not an actress at all like so it's either you want Hannah, but if you want me to play

a character, it's probably not going to work. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person

writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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expertise. And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Looking back. at night one, what guys really stood out for you that night? In the moment, in the moment.

In the moment, I think obviously, Luke P. you did. I mean, that's who I gave my first impression rose to. I think because he was somebody that I'd met when I was announced. Right. Yes. Well, what did you think? What did you think when he hopped on the limo in Roared? Was that where you like I like I was just like whoa okay like I I didn't have a preconceived like notion of who he was so I was just like

alright like he's just really yeah I'm trying to think like obviously that one stuck out I haven't watched back the show Pete I mean Pete it seems like like watching it was so yeah watching it it seems like Pete

night one like rewatching you were like oh this guy this guy's probably going to be the bachelor if they don't have enough to get. Yeah, he comes down a full uniform. He gives you his wings, which like you then gave back to him on his season because we also did a recap of his night one.

So he had a nice intro. Yeah. A few others that we saw were like, obviously Tyler Cameron, Mike Johnson. So the thing about Tyler that people, like I thought he was drunk or something was wrong with him. When I was like, I was like,

is this guy? Like, I asked. Asked the to check on him. I was like, I think there's something going on. And I think he was just nervous. But like, that is how his eyes were like barely open. I'm like, is this guy here with us? I'm not sure.

Like, he is obviously like attractive. But people, you know, well, of course, always ask me about, you know, the top people in my, that ended up, like, connections with. And so like, there wasn't actually. Did you almost caught him? with him the first night. Yeah, it makes sense because you can tell. You don't really see him. No, he's barely, he's literally barely in your episode one.

And I even know, like, it's hard to get your time and there's so much going on. But I was just like, this guy's not, um, that's so funny. Seriously, I really liked, um, the other, um, Tyler, who I went on my first date with. I had a really, um, off the bat, like, connection with him. and he was so kind and just had great conversation. Mike, I loved, I loved Mike from the beginning because he just like, he just very well spoken and I think he's somebody that I just like could easily talk to because everyone is so nervous and I'm still trying to figure out my role, but I do think like one thing

I did pretty well my first night is because I am so like, hey, like it's okay if you're nervous. Like, I was able to hold that space for a lot of the guys. Well, but the first night, it's really hard to like, I felt like I was almost like babysitting the whole time of like, how are you feeling? What's going on? All right, you got this. Say what you prepared. It's kind of more like that. I feel like Mike's conversation because we did see a little clip of it, but he was very confident.

and was asking you in-depth questions. And I feel like, like, tell me if I'm wrong because I've never been to leave, but the people that come out really confident and comfortable probably stand out just based on that alone because so many people are like detrimentally nervous. Yes, absolutely. And it, like I said, there's like almost like this job to be like making sure people feel comfortable. So somebody's already like, okay, I don't need that. I need you.

I just want to like get to know you. It's like, oh. Yeah, they're like one step ahead. Thank you. This feels very nice. Yeah, totally. Like, Mike was somebody I thought about giving my first impression rose to for sure. So, like, I do remember that of being like, this was just a really great conversation

and didn't feel that need to play a, not play a role, but like step up into a role. I could just be myself and have some, like, have a genuine first conversation. Going to bed that night, where was your head at as, I was like, did you think, like, I can end up being with one of these guys? Like, where was the confidence level there? To be really honest, the first night for me, I thought that I met a lot of great guys. But the confidence, you know, there's some people are like, oh, my gosh, I feel like my person is here for sure. It was even hard.

I don't know if you can, like, listen back to how I said it. But it was hard for me to be like, my husband is in this room. I think I kind of like pushing it a little bit. You like circled around that statement, I feel like a lot, where you were like, I feel really good about this group of guys, but like you weren't. Yeah. I feel like my husband could, you know, but like I just, if I went from my first gut and I ought to stay there, I was like, it's all that these guys are bad.

I just don't know if my person's here. You were right. Really? And I said that. And I said that in the back room. Yeah. And they were. like everyone feels this way the first night like it's so hard they started naming all some people

and they're like and they're together and happy and i'm like okay um but i actually like that because when people like night one and i'm sure there are some people that actually feel this way when they say it but when they're like oh my god i know that my husband's in this room i know my son's in the room i'm always like how how do you know that how do you know that you can't especially because you're not seeing you can't best selves most of the time night one Even when we met each other, it wasn't like we were both like, I know this is the person I'm going to spend the rest of my life with. No, not at all.

I was like I could maybe see myself like falling in love with this guy for sure. But I wasn't like my husband's on this beach. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I mean, even like, but I don't say now. I wasn't like, I was like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I'm not like, you're it. You know, I'm going to like make a toast to us right now.

Like that would be freaking weird in real lives. How long did it take you to, like, what point in the season where you're like, ooh, I think like this is going to work out? There's this conversation between me, Chris Harrison. I think I was holding so much, so much responsibility. And I am pretty empathetic. So like one thing I've learned about myself, why people ask, like, how are you good at these like competition shows?

Because I can, I have a very, I feel like it is a, it is a talent. It helps me in a lot of situations to be able to literally. cut off everything else and just be focused on what's in front of me. So if I was on a date with Jed or with Peter or Mike, it did, I was fully focused on that. And I couldn't like it was the putting people up against each other in a way because you are like, okay, I felt had a really fun date with Mike. I wasn't thinking about the other people while I was on that date, which is good. Like you think that's a good thing. I think it's great for the date. It's. but being able to like make decisions on who I want to be with was really tough especially

when I got down to like the last chunk and then knowing you know even when I get to like my final force I think you're you're making decisions like every other day and I'm like I can't do this like yeah I can't like put my heart fully into this when I have to show you shut that off and go into the next date with somebody else. It was really, really hard for me. So I would say after that conversation with Chris Harrison and having this whole, like, I think I want to quit, I realize, okay, how I'm doing it actually makes sense. Like, I think the way I was doing it, if I could have longer time, was the best way to do it.

But I'm not going to be able to allow myself to, like, fall for anyone doing that. And so after that, I kind of made the switch to like, all right, I'm going to like push myself all the way in. And then that's when it kind of it started to change for me. But it was fully going against like intuition every. Yeah. Intuition. Yeah. Now look at you.

Now you're engaged. And okay, last time we had you on this podcast, we were talking about potentially, like you're going to start planning a wedding. How's wedding planning going? Where are you at with it? Yeah. So I think I started talking to you right before that I had started, but I'm basically at the same place because I was like, yeah, I'm going to be able to do this with this book coming out and a few other things. And that was hilarious. I mean, you're writing multiple books all the time. Yeah. And I was and I was starting book too and releasing that, you know, doing all the public, why can

it publicity? Publicity. Yeah, like all that for the book one. So it was just a disaster. It stopped really quickly after it started.

But was it last week or two weeks ago? We kind of started the process. I think I told you I want to do like destination wedding. So we're just trying to plan a time to go look at a few narrow down a few venues. and go look at them, I just have not been in town. Like, this, this has been my, the longest I've been in town since first week of April,

I think, and I've been sick the whole time. So, I haven't really had much time. Yeah. Do you guys, did you get a wedding planner? Yes, I have a wedding. Okay, nice. That is a life save. Okay.

Yeah. And then do you have, do you have an idea where you guys want to go on your honeymoon? Okay. I kind of want, we love Europe so I could see us doing, he's never been to Italy. I have been to Italy, but I think that could be fun. We have a few things. One of my dream vacations is African safari. So I could see that, but also I want to be by, I mean, I guess if we went to like Cape Town or whatever, we'd be by the beach.

But I do want like a relaxing part of the trip and then like do some. fun, crazy adventure thing. Scott, I don't know. Honeymoon planning is like, it's hard to pick. Like, it feels like a big decision on like where you're going to go to what you want to do. Like we booked, we did Italy. So we did, we went to Lake Homo. Which I highly suggest because Lake Homo was beautiful and so chill.

Yeah, you can like go out into the town. Well, we're going to Lake Homo next summer anyway for my assistant's wedding. So we've already got that checked off, which is. just great. So I'm like, that, that kind of made us think maybe we already got that in. Yeah, because then you could jump around Italy if you're already going there. But Joe literally, so Joe like booked our whole honeymoon. And I think we had flights at one point to like three different places because like we couldn't decide. We were like had flights to Bali. We had a hotel in like Hawaii booked. We had flights to Italy. Like we were just all. At one point I was like,

all right. Like where are we going? Because we can't go to all three of these places at the same time. Yeah, I'm a mess in general. And then when I start planning something, yeah, I'm just all over the place. But you did a great job. Yeah, but I can together. But I feel like a relaxing component, highly recommend. Yes, for sure. Yeah.

Hannah, before we let you go, you want to play a quick rapid fire game? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Let's do this. Rapid fire questions with Hannah Brown. Get to know me questions. First thing that comes to your head, all right? Oh, gosh.

What's an essential in your purse? Like a lip gloss and a pencil. I'm not a pencil, a pin. Okay. One of those. Yeah. Heels or flats for night out? A kitten heel in between.

Silver or gold jewelry? Now, after I got my color analysis, silver. Oh my God. I want to do one so bad. What did you get? I'm the summer. You're a summer. Okay.

Is that what you thought you were going to be? No, I was wanting to be something warm. And because I tan really easily. So I was like, oh, and like have warm. I was like, oh, I'm definitely going to be like an autumn or spring. And I wasn't. So. But can you do this on the internet?

You can, but you can also like go to someone. I went to someone. Yeah, that's what I want to do. I'll do that with you. Yeah, we should do it together. I want to know my color analysis. If everyone does this, that listens to the. podcast, reach out to Joe and I.

Okay, go to perfume. It's a little pricey, but it's my favorite. I don't even tell people normally, but I guess I'll tell you guys. It's Roja 51. It smells amazing. It's the best. Favorite way to unwind? Rotting on a couch and watching some type of mood, like a moon.

we yeah an essential part of your writing process um i would say gosh like a lot of zoom calls with other people helping me take all my ideas and and make sure that they're organized that is that is a very essential for every for everyone that reads a book of mine to be like, whoa, let's get this under control because there's like four things going on right now in one. So, yeah. What's one thing on your bucket list? Like I said, to go on an African safari.

A favorite quality about your fiancé. Oh, my gosh. Just his willingness to continue to grow. Yeah. Favorite book? that you've written that I've written yeah so far mistakes who never made it of course smart good answer if you said the other one I'd be like yeah um who is someone that inspires you honestly I know it sounds so cheesy to say but like my feet got say really does inspire me um

just his his patience with me and the the way that like our relationship has unfolded like the way he's grown and changed and been there for me like yeah i'm i'm very inspired by him so it's a great thing to have your partner meet somebody inspires you what a lovely what a lovely answer to end this podcast hannah thank you so much for coming on and to our listeners make sure you check out mistakes we never made hannah's book in her other books and her podcast any uh anything you want to say, Hannah, where people could, I mean, people know you, but it's going to be like, yeah, I don't know where to follow you.

Just, you know, like I said, my favorite book that I've ever written is mistakes you never made, and it makes her a great beachside pool read. It's been, I'm just so thankful for, I'm sure there's people here that are listening that I've read it and all the feedback that I'm getting is just been so awesome. But check it out if you haven't. yet and this was so fun. I appreciate y'all. It's the book of the summer and to our listeners,

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