Bachelor Happy Hour - Becca Kufrin on Life with Garrett

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

It’s the final Bachelor Happy Hour of 2019, and Rachel and guest co-host Becca Kufrin are counting down the top five moments of the podcast! Plus, Becca is in the hot seat, answering questions about her life with Garrett and addressing the criticism she received after Garrett didn’t attend Chris and Krystal’s wedding.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, everybody. What's up? You got to have like a, what's up, everybody. When grocery store Joe was here, he was like, what up, what up? And we were like... I need a new tagline, I guess. I don't know. Sometimes when I put on the spot, I start to say words that I usually would never say. Okay. Like, so I just said y'all. And I'm from Minnesota. We don't say that there.

Y'all is universal. Everybody says it now. I feel like overseas people were saying y'all. We're overseas. I don't know. I think I want to make that up. See, now I'm saying things that I may have been. They were actually speaking another language, but it sounded like y'all. Well, listen, ever since you've been a guest host on a Bachelor Happy Hour, you've been a co-host, which, again, you are today. But I have yet to put you in the hot seat. And everybody who comes to Bachelor Happy Hour sits in the hot seat. Dun dun dun. Yeah, no, seriously, cue the music.

Now, it's, I don't think it's as intense as the one that you're used to with Chris Harrison. This is doable, I think. But Chris Harrison, it's, that was more intense because you're in front of a live audience. This may be more intense because maybe I'll ask tougher questions. Like, we're not on TV, so I can pretty much fucking say anything like that. So I'm going to see myself out now, guys. It's been fun. Take care.

No, no, no, no, don't worry. It's going to be a good time. You're going to have fun no matter what. So let's get right to it. Now, one of my favorite memories of you was on the 15-year reunion, the Bachelorette reunion, you told the story about how you and Garrett broke the bed during one of your happy couples. Now, wait a minute. You didn't have to tell us that story because we all saw it the next day.

It was like, hmm, what's wrong with that headboard behind them? That looks like it's a little bit broken. Yeah. So I feel like that's just the tip of the iceberg, and you probably have some more juicy stories to tell. So please, for all of our bachelor, happy hour listeners, do tell. I don't know how juicy this is, but so there's a lot of time that you have downtime with, you know, your team. We get makeup and we have a beautiful stylist who I love. And so you have a lot of downtime with your team.

And I think it was halfway through. I was obviously very into Garrett all the way through. But he had never, for some reason, I had never seen him with his shirt off and I really wanted to. And so, Gina, the makeup artist and I were sitting there one night. And I was like, I really want to see Garrett with his shirt off. I just want to see what I'm working with here. And they happened to have these t-shirts that we made in Park City with our faces on them. And so she's like, oh, it's right here.

Just take that. Tell him you want to see what he looks like in it. And then we'll all just like catch glimpses of him with his shirt. off. So I think I hit him back in a cabana. The camera crew still came through. Wait, where are you? I think we're in Las Vegas. Okay. Yes, because we were at a row ceremony

and him and I snuck away, got to this cabana. I had the shirt and I wanted my alone time with him to like you know, have him take it off a little like Chibbendale style. The camera I think got in the corner so it wasn't as romantic and smooth as I wanted it to be but that was the first time I saw him with a shirt off.

And obviously you were pleased. I was pleased. It sounds like you were asking all the relevant questions to me. I think I would have liked what I saw with him regardless. Like he could have had a dad bod and it would have been fine. But he doesn't, right? I just feel like you might want to put that out there. He doesn't, but I will say I, when we were living in...

Now we're getting juicy. When we were living in Minnesota, I was making a lot of, like, great home-cooked comfort meals. And so I will, both of us should have probably not as had seconds. But no, but he's doing great now. He's looking fun. He's getting back in the gym. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's winter.

Well, now's the season. Like, you let things go a little bit. Listen, I've been in married life, you know, these last few months. And so I'm not in the gym really that much at all. It's like I was hitting in the heart before, but you're just happy, you know? Especially when you're traveling so much. So, yeah, we have to get back on that new 2020 diet workout plan. Now's the time.

It's right around the corner. It's happening. It's hard when someone ask you what's a juicy story because I'm trying to think. Well, what was a juicy story from my season? I'll tell you, I almost got physical, I was, I was physically ill on the two-on-one on my season. Oh, lucky. So you didn't have to go? No, I did, but I realized how much, like when people talk about stress and anxiety, I was so anxious about going on this two-on-one that I physically made myself sick.

I was so nauseous. And then as soon as it was over, I was perfectly fine. But I, yeah, I can't think of anything crazy. I mean, did you sneak anybody to your room? To my room. No cameras. No cameras. Okay, so I did have Blake come to my room once.

No cameras? But it was on his birthday. No cameras, but we weren't alone. We were with the producers. We had a birthday cake, so we sang, happy birthday. I did also, I think it was on Garrett's hometown, actually. Usually they keep you separate, you know, in the vehicles, if people didn't know that. But Garrett and I had a long drive.

to wherever we were picking tomatoes. And so we got to be together without cameras, which was actually very fun because we were stuck in traffic. We had some beer, which I shouldn't admit because we weren't driving. But that was fun. I think we just made out the entire time as we had people surrounding us. Well, you get, it just becomes a way of life on this show. Well, and it makes it hard to be juicy because you can never really be alone that much.

No, but I mean, I feel like there are times, I was adamant. though, I was like, I am going to sneak into, especially when I knew where their rooms were, I was like, I'm going to sneak into their rooms, I'm going to get out, and then I would chicken, like chicken out at the last minute that I was like, no, no, no, no, I can't do it, I can't do it. See, and I was always

so tired because you're so exhausted because you, probably an average of like four hours per night. I just wanted to sleep. So I, I think when I first started, I told one of the producers like, okay, I want to wake up early, go to the mansion when they were also

living there and get there at like five or six in the morning and see if anyone's awake, if anyone's working out, if anyone's cooking, like what it's like to see how they live when I'm not around. And then that day happened, I was like, I'm sleeping. I have no energy and me. You got to get those precious three hours to sleep. Yeah. I think one thing that people, like a behind the scenes thing that people don't really get is we say it, but they truly don't understand that we don't have any alone time with these guys. So when you do, for example, you mentioned having that car ride with Garrett. We don't even ride in the car

to dates with the other person. No. And I remember it was, I was down to the last two and I got a car ride with Brian and I just remember thinking this is kind of what it would be like in real life.

Right. You can have real conversation and actually a couple of guys on my season, we were driving and there was just a walkie-talkie in the car. So we got to have genuine conversation and I got to see,

not that we don't before, but there's just something about not having a crew around you. Right, without the cameras. Yeah. Completely. And I will say like you get to know your team who you're with because you're with them day in and day out. So when they're around, it doesn't even feel like they understand that you want your time with the person. And so they kind of sit back and they'll talk and do their own thing and kind of just let you be at it. Yeah. No. Absolutely. And having the right producer is everything for you. Like somebody who can really bring that out of you and have you open up and that you trust. Right. Because you don't. have your family and friends around you so you really have to trust whoever you're with all day every day um one thing i really like about your relationship with garret is that you guys really seem to be to yourself and you don't seem to do things for show for social media purposes you seem to just truly be living your life so and that's rare and fascination i mean truly it's just you just guys you guys seem to be doing you so how is life with garret and you know give

us a little inside of what we've been missing since we've seen you guys on camera. It's good. I mean, since we stopped filming, it's been about a year and a half now, it's been a whirlwind because we moved. We're living in California now. We got a dog. We're talking about potentially buying a house. Like all these adult things that I've never had in my life is finally happening with him. I will say, I have to give him the credit for us still staying true to who we are because he is so salt of the earth. I mean, he grew up in a small town. His family raised him so well to work hard.

So he really keeps me grounded. I mean, I love to still be part of the Bachelor nation world if and when I can. But I also realized, like, I went on the show for a purpose, and that was to find a partner and to find somebody to do life with. And that's my number one priority. And so for him to just focus on that as well, and I think we're very aligned in that regard. we're like that's we are each other's like number ones right now and it's not all of the glitz and the glam and the like sharing absolutely everything with the internet because we're still

us and want to keep that part of us private he makes it very easy so I give him the credit um but yeah it's been fun it's been definitely an adjustment living with a guy because he's the first guy I've ever lived with. Yeah. Um, so luckily we have two bathrooms. I've learned that that is key. Yes, it is. That is what my old boss taught me. She said, I always have your own bathroom, um, which is very important. So it's like we have our separate living quarters in our apartment when we need them, which I think is very important. Um, but yeah, it's been fun. It's, and we're traveling like crazy. He's the best travel partner. It's been good. It's so funny. I'm listening to you talk about the different aspects of your relationship.

and it really reminds me of Brian and I. And I think a successful way to navigate this crazy world is the moment that you're announced, which is, and I know you'll agree with me, it's the happiest day that you get to share with the world who you chose, but it's also the hardest day because everybody has an opinion of what they think you should have done. And so I think the way to navigate this,

the key to a successful relationship is to take yourself away from the spotlight and really build your own foundation and be a solid unit together so you can face anything, any craziness that comes at you because it's going to come. And it seems like you and Garrett have really done that. And I bring that up because, for example, when you went to Chris and Crystal's wedding and Garrett didn't come with you, immediately it's like people, it's like as much as people want to see you fall in love,

they also want to speculate that the love is gone. Yeah. You know, how did you guys handle that? because I honestly don't even know. So mind you, Chris and Crystal's wedding, before it aired, happened a couple months before that. So I went to this wedding way before anyone else had seen it. And I knew the entire time Garrett wasn't going to be able to make it. He still has a life.

He still has friends from his hometown. And they were having a birthday. I had already confirmed to go to the wedding. He had already confirmed going to this birthday. So I was like, that's fine. Like I would never make you not go to this. Like we still have our identities. We're still, we can still do our own thing and appreciate it.

I'm also very independent and I like, I do like my alone time sometimes. As much as I love Garrett, I still, I still want to do my own thing. And he, he appreciates that he supports it and I try to be the same with him. So when I went, it was like, I looked at going to the wedding as a time for me to go with Tia and have fun with her and with Kendall and all these people who I hadn't seen in a while. and so it was great it was fun fast forward to now a couple months later when the wedding actually airs and i'm on i'm watching the wedding on tv and i'm just getting all of these dms and messages from people being like oh my god did you guys break up oh my gosh you're a bad fiance or garret's a bad fiance why didn't you go together it's everyone's two cents and

i think i had posted a video i think i had posted a dm from someone named sharon who was like You are a terrible partner. I've been with my partner for 36 years, and we do absolutely everything together. It's what makes us stronger. And in my mind, I'm reading this. I'm like, because I'm like you have a terrible relationship. Sounds like you have no friends. You have zero identity.

So it was interesting. I didn't mind. I think I was more annoyed with the fact that not only were people giving their two cents and giving me their opinions that I didn't care for or ask for, but they were kind of bashing him in a way, which is like he's being a good friend and going to this guy's birthday. Like, let him do his thing. We're still fine. So when it comes to stuff like that, I just try to not get as involved. I won't, like, I know when I get overwhelmed and I feel this like energy or like it's like social media pulls like an energy out of me at times where I just have to

set my phone aside. And I just have to say, okay, I'm done. Like, I'm not going to look at it for a day. So that's what we do. No, I totally get it. It sucks. that you have to explain your every action, especially when it comes to your significant other that you met on the show, to everyone else. And it's funny because when I saw, I saw the hate that you were getting and I was like, people act like Garrett didn't show up to his own wedding. Right, yeah.

I mean, does he even know Chris and Crystal? I don't know. Yeah, he knows Chris because they were on the same season, but that's it, yeah. But he actually went to his friend, his hometown friends, it was a wedding? Or birthday, which I think is more admirable. But it's like, but if Garrett wanted to stay at home, can Garrett, can the man not stay at home? Yeah, we have, we don't even need an excuse. Like, we did, I didn't, I should not have even told people that he went to this birthday. It doesn't matter. But it sucks that you have to feel the pressure, like the question that I'm about to ask you now.

How do you and Garrett feel, how do you and Garrett feel about everyone asking you, when are you going to get married? Oh, I feel like it's the only thing we answer these days. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get. I mean, I do the same thing. I just ask Rachel, if her and Brian have been talking babies. So I'm at fault as well. Again, I went on the show to find somebody to get engaged to eventually get married. So I understand that that's why people always ask and they're interested. And everyone wants to know kind of the first details.

It's exciting. Like weddings are a great thing. It is, I don't want to say annoying, but like if I post a picture of Garrett and I, the only comments I feel like we get our, oh my gosh have babies right now or oh my gosh when's the wedding it's like there's more to our relationship than that but again it's because we put ourselves out there in that regard we just I think we've gotten really good about

answering it and we literally have zero wedding plans right now so it makes it easy to answer that no I think it's great that you guys are doing it on your own time you don't feel the pressure to do things in a certain time or a bachelor time frame you know and I think that that's what's going to be so key

to your relationship you don't ever have to get married if you don't want to. The fact is that you found your person, you found each other, and you have something solid, and at this point now, you found your little fur baby. I did find my fur. Who's here today at the studio? Mino is probably making noises under

the table as we speak, because she's chewing her bone. She's shot up when you said her name. She's finally learning her name for the longest time she would just ignore me. She's so cute, and you have shared your journey of wanting a little baby, Corgi, specifically. Yes. And it seems like

I don't know how, what you did to Garrett, but you warm down. And he finally was like, okay, let's do this thing. So take us through that process about how it happened. I just need to say, Minow is my pride and joy. And I can't imagine life without her. I love her so much more than it's probably healthy. Oh, I get it. Yeah.

Girl, I get it. Like, dogs, they just have this unconditional love. And, like, she can do no wrong in my eyes. I mean, that's not to say I don't have to discipline her. sometimes because she's a little sass. But yeah, I had been wanting a corgi since probably since I came out of the womb. I mean, I just love dogs. Garrett, he had never said no, but his whole thing was, let's figure out where we're going to live first and let's not travel so much first. So I don't think that last part's ever going to change anytime soon. We're just learning

how to adapt with having her, which, you know, especially being in California, everything is very dog-friendly, which helps. But I had been talking to. an adoption agency for quite some time. Actually, it's where like Caitlin and Jason got ramen. And I told her, I was like, if you happen to come across any corgi's, not now, because we were still traveling, but in six months, let me know. And so there was a long lead time. And she finally had reached out and she's like, hey, we have this one corgi who needs adopting. Would you want her? And I, so Garrett, I don't think actually knows this part, but I ended up signing the adoption papers before he said yes. And so.

then I showed him a your face right now. So I showed him a picture of her. And I think at that point she was two or three months. And he's like, okay, yeah. Like, we can get her. That's fine. We're finally kind of settled. I think it was the two colored eyes that sold him because he loves Aussies and a lot of Aussies have two colored eyes. So I was like, oh, great. Because I were getting her. And so I had signed it first. He said yes. So we then got her. And we actually, we, I'm surprised because we had been traveling, there's a couple week period where they have to go through testing to make sure, because she came from South Korea. So before they could fly her over. And we had actually been traveling in Asia. And so that timing worked out perfectly because we landed. She had been in the States for, I think, two or three days. And we weren't supposed to get her for a week. And I woke up the next day after landing from Bali. And Garrett looks over at me. He's like, can we just get her today? Can we just take her home? And I'm like, what? Like, are you changing on me already? I was so surprised that he wanted to get her early and so we brought her home and I mean my life is forever different I she's again my pride and joy I love her so much I just like I love her little butt it's the cutest thing in

the world I have way too many like slow-mo videos of her walking but I tell Garrett all the time I'm like I have to be put down before she ever is because I can't live without her I get the love of a pet believe me there have been I'm actually so upset that copper isn't here today I know I I get the, like, how meaningful they are in our lives and how they do no wrong. I mean, literally my dog peed and pooped in the house today and that a problem. You're like, oh, honey, you're sick. Do you want to do it again? Yeah, let me eat some more food and water. Yeah. I'm like, he needs boiled chicken and white rice to suit his stomach. No, I get it and I love that and I love how it this, you can tell this is meant to be, especially since we now know that you signed those

papers first and Gareth was right on board. I can't even imagine if it was the other way around. Well, yes, I can. It would be exactly the way that it is. But now he wants another one. It took so long to finally get Minow. And now he's like, oh, well, I think we could do another one. And I'm like, okay, you don't even need to ask me, just do it. I love it. Do you have a name picked out already?

Well, so for Minow, I wanted to name her after a food, like Taco or Pico. And Garrett didn't like that. So we got Minow because I'm from Minnesota. He was from Reno. That's how we combined the two. Oh, I didn't know that. So that's how we got it. And he loves to fish.

So he's like, oh, it's perfect. But I was thinking, I don't think I've told him this yet, but I was like, how can we also combine them? And I thought of Remy. I love the name Remy. Because it combines the first two of Reno and the first two of Minnesota. I didn't even know that, but I love the name Remy. So maybe if that's what I named my child, I'm like,

one time I was talking to Becca and she... You can't steal it from me, Rachel? That's for your dog. This is for my child. Okay, who's going to have the baby first? So we talked about Minow, who's obviously your little fur baby, but you have another baby. Do you know where I'm going with this? You do.

You have another baby. I'm like, special announcement. No, be the label. Yes, my laundry line. This is something you've been really, really working on. Now it's all come to fruition. It's out there. Yes.

Tell us about, I want to know how you came about, not with the name, but just like the concept and how you decided to do it in a world where. people seem to be having their own fashion lines. Be the label seems to be so different from anything that I've seen in regards to at least the Batchel franchise. So Be the label is solely loungeware. And that's the part that I mean, I guess on the show we're always dressed up

and put together because we have a lot of help. I don't like to wear... I don't like to wear clothes. I don't like to wear uncomfortable clothes. I'm literally always in my sweats or my leggings when I'm at home. That's all I'm in. Like, that's all you'll find me

and probably do the point where Garrett's like, can you not wear the same black leggings every day? So I started the lounge wear line just because I feel like the majority of women like to be comfortable. And I still wanted something that when you're at home or even running errands and going out,

you want to feel put together. You don't want to feel like a slob or like, this is your old ripped t-shirt. So I started working with this amazing team up in L.A. and the designer who she's fabulous she actually came she worked on the loungewear line

for Tommy Hill figure so she has a lot of experience but it's been such a unique process for me because I didn't go to school for fashion this is totally new to me so I'm still learning as I go but it really is a creative outlet

for me to get my hands on fabrics and prints and patterns and styles and picking out colors like I have such a saying it and I want to really involved. Very involved. This isn't, I'm slapping my name on some clothing line. I'm like in it from beginning to the end. Yes. Yes. So when you say my baby, like it is legit my baby. It's probably the scariest, one of the scariest things I've ever done because you never know, especially if it's

something so new to you, you never know how it's going to go. And so we started, I think, up in January or February. So it's been a long time coming almost a year now. And I wanted it to be a fun thing too where the followers of our Instagram account be the label official can have a say and so I really wanted to be interactive with them where it's like we'll if anyone follows it like we'll slap on different options for colors and and pick what what the followers want or I get all these different DMs and feedback on styles and if they want oversized things and so we try to incorporate what everyone's asking for within the line I mean it's a very slow process because you can only have a certain amount of pieces for each line.

But it's been a very fun creative outlet. So there seem to be so many different aspects when it comes to Be the Label. Explain to us the partnership that you have with Woman One. So Women One is a nonprofit organization who, so backtracking a little bit. When I started up with Be the Label, I really wanted to have some sort of charitable aspect. And so that was something that I had driven home with the team since day one. And so we partnered with women, one, because what they're doing is amazing. All of, or not, I shouldn't say all of it, three percent of our sales go to, there's a couple different sides to this.

You can sponsor a family over in Africa. They're also building what's called the Center of Worth for women to go to there that need resources. They need maybe it's more or better education. they need information on their sexual rights, whatever it might be literacy. And so they're building the center of worth where women can go to a safe place to get access and tools to what they truly need. And then also playing into that is a lot of times what people don't realize is when these girls leave their families in their homes. I mean, they're a huge factor of how these families function and survive and get things done, whether it's around the home or make money. and so they then also help the families when the women are gone to better support them as well.

Wow. I love it. There's so much to it, and it's so humbling to Dale, who started Women 1, she's just, she's amazing to talk to you and to hear her speak on it. It's truly empowering. I've asked her, and I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, but I've asked her if we could potentially do a trip out there to help get involved with this, with the center of worth. but it's something that's really special and I think it's important at least for this brand

to give back in some way Yeah, no, I think that people should follow suit in what you're doing that if you're going to do something that's passionate to you as far as be the label which has come about

because this is a lifestyle for you. This is how you are, this is what you wear and that comes out in your clothing but then also you're giving back at the same time to something you're also passionate about. I can't unsee it.

I'm like, well, if I'm going to do something then this is exactly how I need to be doing it as well. And I will say I'm pretty outspoken with like women's rights and equality. And so, and that's just not in the U.S. Like that it needs to be everywhere. I think that it needs to be talked about even more. And we need to start making a greater change in that. And education is so important.

I mean, my mom was a teacher. But education. Was she? Yeah. We got to get them together. So I see how important that can be. And I can see how important, you know, a woman's sexual education is and getting access to all of the right tools and necessities

that you need to be successful and carry on in this world. And so that's why I really wanted to focus on a charity that gave back to the women and supported them. You sound like you need to be running for office. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, are there local elections going on in Carlsberg? Oh, gosh. No, please no. I can't. I couldn't do politics either. I couldn't marry someone in it. I couldn't do it either. It's like, just give me a picket sign and let me like, you know, like protests, lobby, do a stand-in, sit-in, something. I will say. I did the Women's March in Minnesota a couple years ago, and I think I had one of the

best signs, and I still have it to this day. What did it say? Well, so I made two of them. Okay, you know the song like, you down with LPP, yeah, you know me. So one of the sponsors of it was Planned Parenthood. So I did like the logo, like you down with P.P., like Planned Parenthood. And then the other side, which was like to take credit for this one. It had a bunch of glitter on it.

It said, keep your politics away from my lady bits. Oh, that's very cute. Thank you. I love that. I still have it. And you should still have that. Yeah, I'm never getting rid of it.

I know, I really, really like that. Thank you. Okay, so I have to keep going because your resume is just beyond. Not only do you have baby minnow. Well, no, let's just start from the beginning. Not only do you have a fiancé in Garrett. Now you have a fur baby with baby minnow. You have your second child.

Be the Label, and you also have this brand new project that you announced on Bachelor Happy Hour the other week. You've got Bachelor Live on stage. Yes. Yeah. And I mean, just hearing you talking about Bachelor Live on stage, it sounds like the ultimate experience. Like, I'm almost kind of like, maybe we should change some of the concept of the show and incorporate a little bit of Bachelor Live on stage in it. I mean, you're talking Broadway, choreography, music, dating. Becca, Ben

This show will give you everything. It is, and I think people still kind of question what it's going to be about or what it will look like. It's basically, like if you were to buy tickets to a Broadway show, you're getting that. I mean, we have a full set design that changes. We have,

obviously, Ben and I are co-hosting together, but you have a full dance crew, everything. My favorite part is the costume changes. What? You didn't even see. Oh, I'm shocked. The jealousy. Rachel, I'm, I'm, You're going to make an appearance.

Let me know. Let me know if you need to take it some time off and you need to sub in host. We're going to take this week off, Rachel. But it's going to be such a fun, interactive thing for the audience because people, I think, in Bachelor Nation, get so invested in the leads and the contestants. And this is a fun way to bring it to cities. So we're going to go to 66 cities. It's going to be a crazy wild ride because Ben and I are going to be living out of tour buses for 66, well, shows, more. It's going to be a long time, but it's just a way for people to feel like they're part of the bachelor world.

We're going to have bachelor-esque dates. We're going to have the rose ceremonies. But it's also a way for them to interact and feel like they have a say in someone's love life locally. Yeah, I guess I would ask, what is the key difference? Because if I'm a bachelor nationer, which made that up, bachelor nationer, and I'm like, okay, I know the season's about to come on. I'm watching the season. but why do I want to go to the show? Like, what's the key difference

that's going to make me get a different experience at Bachelor Live on stage? Well, I mean, besides watching Ben and I maybe dance, it's so Bachelor Live on stage, since we'll be in each city, it's going to feel like home. People are going to know the people who are in the show with us. I mean, we are, of course,

picking the Bachelor contestants from each city. We're picking the contestants, to date this guy. So it's like you can watch this love story in your area unfold. There's going to be so many bits of each city incorporated to each individual show that it's really going to feel like, oh, I know this person or I know this place or I know what they're talking about. So it's not going to feel so, like, so unreachable.

And one thing that I love and that I actually will be doing with some of my single friends is nominating them. So people can go with an... I don't want to give too much away, so we'll have some contestants, but we're also going to be pulling from the audience. So if anyone's friends know that they're going to be one of the contestants or a potential, like, you want to go and support them. Like, since it's going to be so interactive, like they're going to have a say, like, I want to hear big friend groups or families in the audience, like cheering on their girl or cheering for The Bachelor. It's just going to be

very hands-on and something that you can't do from a TV screen. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I love that people are going to feel like they're a part of it. You know what I mean? Like you watch it on TV. It's a fantasy. But now you actually have a say in it. Right. You can relate to it.

My God, you might even be in it. You have no idea what you're going to experience. Exactly. Because this is all so new. I know you're excited about it, but are you nervous at all? Yes. Of course. I mean, I can't really talk normally.

So to do it on stage. I can't tell. You've been a fantastic co-host up. In front of thousands of people. is a little nerve-wracking. We're talking thousands. Uh-huh. I love this.

Yeah, it'll be, I mean, and I'm sure, like, A star is born. Literally, you said thousands, and I saw stars born. But, yes, I'm nervous, but Ben, I think is the perfect person to be doing this with because he, I mean, he's been on stage before. He, of course, has his podcast. He just is so good about making, not only me, but everyone around him just feel comfortable and welcome and, like,

like they've known him forever. So he's going to be such a good support system throughout this. And watching him interact with fans who I've seen or even members of the crew who we're meeting now for workshops for it, like everyone just, I think, feels at home with him and like they've known him forever. So I think it's going to be a great show, but it'll also have like that comfort factor like you hopefully kind of know us.

Okay, so you say that Ben is the perfect co-host, which I actually agree with you. I think that you two are going to be fantastic. together. I know there's some choreography. Like, how is he doing? I mean, the last time I saw Ben dance was when I challenged him at the

lip sync battle and beat him. That's right. And beat him. Okay, well, you killed that. Rachel, you killed that. No, in all honesty, thank you. But in all honesty, I thought Ben was going to win when Ben crawled on the floor.

So this is why I'm telling you guys, you don't know what you're going to get when it comes to him. because I know you guys have started choreography already and you're learning the moves, but the actual date is February 13th. But I'm telling you, Ben crawled on his, dragged his body on the floor. Well, Rachel, that probably wasn't the last time you'll see that.

Oh, my gosh, ladies! Yeah, it's going to be a good one. And Ben is such a good sport with everything. Okay, Becca, this all sounds so exciting. I wish you were starting Bachelor Live on stage today. Unfortunately, I know that is not the case. So the people and myself will have to continue to keep waiting. But how can they get tickets to see this spectacular event?

Well, please, everybody, I would love to see you there. There will be meet and greets after each show. So you can go to bachelor live onstage.com if you want to apply or if you have any single friends that you want to nominate, bachelor live onstage.com. I'm already there. Mentally, I'm already there. Now, we do have the holidays coming up. Do you and Garrett have any special traditions that you like to do?

Oh, wait, no. The number one question is, where are you celebrating? Because you always get that. We actually don't know yet. So it's tough this year because my sister just had a baby. His brother just had a baby. So our families are all over the place. So we're still trying to decide regardless of where we're going to be minnows ready to fly. She's coming with us. She's also passed out right now. But, yeah, the only... Wait, did you ask about holiday traditions? Yeah, what are your... Do you have any holiday traditions? that maybe you and Garrett are starting some, I don't know. We are going to start some. So we didn't have a tree last year because we were traveling so much. So I'm already asking him if we can get multiple trees. Okay.

But the only, I wouldn't even call it a tradition. The thing that I love about the holidays, I love nutcrackers. Like not the physical one in your hand where you eat the food, but like the little men. And so I've been stocking up all year on nut crackers. How many do you have? I have a handful right now. I have given some away his gifts. Okay. So it's not massive, but I did actually meet a woman when I was buying my last couple who had, I think, 368.

And she's, I mean, she's goals. Can I be honest? I think they're horrifying. Do you? They kind of are creepy, but I think they're horrified. But I think they're just so vintage. That's what I like is like the old kitsy Christmas stuff. I, yeah, I just, I think it's cool. That's the tradition.

I don't think it's 366 or whatever, that number was cool. But I just, yeah, there's something about them that just is disturbing to me. Well, you're going to be really disappointed in your holiday gift that I give you this year. Well, what I was going to say is, don't give me a nutcracker. I'll take B the label. You got a girl. It's just fine. But no, not for me.

But since this year is coming to an end and we know we started Bachelor Happy Hour this year. And because we're coming to the end of the year, I feel like it's only right, and it's very, very fitting that we celebrate the end of 2019 on Bachelor Happy Hour with a fun countdown and revisit the top five OMG moments on the podcast so far. Like, it's hard to limit them to just five because there have been a lot of juicy moments. And I know you haven't been there for all of them, but, like, we had to narrow it down to top five. I'm excited to see what you're sorry. I feel like we should have honorable mentions. Okay.

I'll try to remember that. And then you try to think of some, too. But here we go. We're going to start with number five. Number five is Nick. Have you met Nick? I've met him in person once. Okay.

Very briefly. Okay. So number five is Nick talks about a civil war happening within Bachelor Nation. I feel like there's a civil war brewing amongst Bachelor Nation cast. You get like, I just feel like here's the thing. Is it the civil war? Because I know which side I'm on. Here's a thing.

Here's a thing. Here's a thing. the north like social and it's all social media's fault um like you're like in the middle of it when when I like on Caitlin's season was kind of the beginning and with them in social media

heightened and then Jojo season and now it like we're full blown to social media and then it's also gotten younger and then there's like um like yeah all the people like the Jojo's and Caitlin's and Tanner and Jade and me and like you're kind of

kind of in that. And then you have like, it's like Hannah and Colton started this new wave of cast members. And there's this constant, like it's high school. And it's like the sharks and the jets. Just like, it's an old year reference from the West Side story.

And everyone's just like, everyone's pretending to be friends. Everyone's just going after the same fat, fit fun deals. And everyone's just like jockeing for position. And everyone's just kind of talking shit. It's kind of fun. And there's just going to be this big rivalry.

It's like the Marvel Civil War movie. like everyone's kind of friends like Ray all kind of like each other I wish you guys can see Nick right now he's moving around like he's a puppeteer so Becca do you think that there's a civil war happening in Batser Nation well I think that

that is very extreme I don't know if I'd call it the Civil War I do see the change and I feel like I'm kind of in the middle like Switzerland where I don't know if I even play a part in it because I feel like I'm

not like the OG and I'm not like because I'm a little bit older than the past contestant. So I do feel it though. I do see it. I think social media just has such a hand in everything these days that whether it comes to like brand deals and endorsements or people just now feeling like they can say whenever at whatever point, they also need to realize that that's going to have repercussions. People are going to read and hear. And so. I don't know. I feel like in the past, like growing up watching the show, it seemed like everyone, for the most part, got along. There wasn't really any beef where now there is more. So I just... But why do you think that is? Like, why, to me, there doesn't, unless someone actually says, question someone's character, right?

I'm not talking about someone's actions on the show because in so many different forms of, you know, there are different media outlets or however you do it through, whether it's an interview, a podcast. sitting on a TV show, we all give our opinions about what we're actually seeing on the show. And that's really all you can do because we're not producers and we're not behind the scenes. Right. So unless someone is saying something where you're attacking someone's character, who they are as a person, I don't understand the need for there to even be a civil war or for people to be fighting with each other. I agree. And I think the main thing that it comes down to is just age.

To be honest, the show is skewing younger now. we're getting older and so I think there's just that disconnect where again you yelled at me the last time I was on your podcast as I said I felt kind of like a grandma and I yelled at you because if you're a grandma I'm dead

no but I do see the age thing and I think when you come from the show you know especially if I would have been I could have never done the show any younger I was 27 when I first started on the bachelor season I was not ready or in the right mindset when I was younger. And I think a lot of them are now younger. There's still a lot of growth and growing up to do.

And when you're forced into this situation to come out of the show and have like all these amazing things being thrown at you and people thrown at you and all of these great travel opportunities, it's easy to get lost in the shininess of it all and to kind of feel like you're on top of the world. You're invincible. You can say whatever, do whatever. And so I think it just comes down to age. Yeah, I think age has a lot to do with it. And because of age, it's more of people are, people care about and are motivated by completely different things than maybe the OGs are. Totally. Yeah. And I've seen it. I mean, I came off of my show, well, not my show. So I came off as The Bachelor. We've talked about this. And I still stay in touch with some of the girls there. Like some of those girls will be friends for life. Most of them. I don't talk to, if I'm being honest, just because our lives went separate ways. And I feel like now it's more, like, people come from the show and they're all traveling together

and going to these events together and appearances together. And it's all like a very tight-knit close group from the recent seasons that it kind of, like Nick said, it feels like high school. It's kind of clicky. And I don't know if that's going to change because I think it's just honestly going to keep growing for a while. I lost my trade with that. Well, no, I mean, I think it's interesting that he says Civil War because it's like, that's a battle. And at some point, it's got to come to a head and blows have to take place.

So it was shocking to me when he used the term Civil War because I said, if we're taking this metaphor that you're using to exactly for what it is, something is about to happen. I mean, are you a Game of Thrones? Are you a lover or a fighter? I'm a fighter. I'm a fighter. I'm winning. I'm on your team. I feel like we're in a Game of Thrones episode where it's like the North versus Kingsland.

Who are you? Who are you on Game of Thrones? Oh, I'd be dead. I'm fucking are you for sure. I'm killing the Knight King. All of it. You know what? I feel like I could be Brian of Tarth only because she's like women empowerment.

I'm not a good fighter, but I think I could get scrappy if I had to. I got to sleep with Jamie, so I'm all about it. That is true, and I was still a little weirded out with that. Only because... Brin's got to get some, too. No, she definitely does. I love her. Jamie, I'm like, he grew on me a little bit, but she could have done better, I'm just saying.

I actually see you as a sansa. Oh, really? Yeah. Like, people thought they knew her, and then at the end, she was like, actually, this is what... Remember when the show started? Okay, we're getting a whole... Actually, you know, you know what? I'm tearing because I just like to drink, okay?

That's who I am. I like my wine too much. Okay. Next OMG moment. Next OMG moment is when Jed leaves listeners torn over his explanation of the doc, quote, unquote, and it's meaning in his relationship with Haley Stevens. What the hard part is to understand is the saying, like, I'll wait for you, meet you at the dock or I don't remember what you said, and then thinking that that was, and then going and telling Hannah, you know, you thought that it

was over. Right. Like I don't understand. I can't connect those two things. Do you know what I mean? And I think a lot of people listening are going to think that same thing. So I want to give you the opportunity to sort of explain that. Right. I would really like to touch on the doc and a lot of people will probably

not believe this. But if you went to Haley and even asked her, she would tell you the truth on this, I would hope. But the doc is a metaphorical thing for meditation that I taught her. That's what it was. It was not a physical doc. And to the public guy, it's going to look like a actual doc. And when I read that note back, I was like,

damn it, that looks like I'm saying, let's meet at this dock. But I practice meditation. I'm passionate about it. It was something that I taught her to do, to go to this dock in her mind and to like sit there and be at peace. And that's what that was. My first takeaway from that is he has very loud gulps. Am I just the only one who noticed that? I mean. What is your take on Jed? Because, you know, Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, they've heard my take on it. I actually did Google the doc after he said that.

I found nothing, not a thing. Well, is it something that he made up? He doesn't say he made. I took it as he made, and he very well could have, okay, in his defense. I took it as in meditating, maybe this is something that people do. Where he goes to feel safe. Yeah. Yeah. But I also don't believe anything that comes out of Jed's mouth. So, you know, before he even started, there was no doc to me.

I think, I mean, if I was Hannah, I would not have continued the relationship. So in that regard, if I was her in that situation, I would have ended it as well. I think Jed kind of reminds me of my ex a little bit who, The one we saw come on the show? Yes. Okay. Unfortunately. Where he, you know, he's more quiet, but he kind of knows what to say to get by. Like, his explanation's not great, but he knows how to word it where people could be like, okay, I get it.

Yeah, I don't meditate, so I don't know. I don't think I have the capacity to, like, chill enough where I can just, like, envision something, like, calm mean so I don't see that also though like I never read this note or saw this note so I think only Jed knows in his mind in his doc yeah I mean the whole Jed interview was an omg moment like the whole freaking thing was just it was I my biggest regret is that I wasn't here to sit and talk with Jed I'm so I'm actually very proud of that interview we got a lot of flag for it for one way or the other but I'm proud of it because we were able to talk to him first we were able to ask him in-depth questions and, you know, at the end of the day, giving him a fair chance and asking those questions, at the end of the day, I was like, you're full shit. Still, you know, he is.

Yeah. I mean, his explanation throughout that entire interview, it's like, of course, no one goes on the show. I think at this point, no one's going on the show because they're dead set. Oh my gosh, I'm going to be the one. I'm going to meet my person. That's it. Like, there's so much more to it. And like he said, he went to go to pursue his music career. Did he have feelings along the way? Yes. I watching it back never felt like it was genuine. I felt like there was a lack of emotion there. Like, I felt like when they would talk and interact with. was like a kind of a blank wall. Like he would just kind of shut down and be like, okay, well, you said this. So I'm going to respond in this way. Or you did this to me, so now I'm going to do it this way. Like, he just knew to go far enough, how to keep going. I think, like, the only little figure out about this whole doc situation is if Haley tells us if it was real or a physical fake. I don't want to talk to her again.

She got enough. Wait, do you talk to her? No, not again. Sorry, I don't want to hear from her again. I just think she just got way too much media attention. Yeah. It is what it is. Real quick, before we move on to the next OMG moment,

so if you were on that one-on-one with Jed and he told you that he came from his music, would you have sent him home? You know, here's what I was actually thinking about that. I think in that moment, I would have definitely had a lot of questions. I think I would have played it out a bit more because as we said,

I think you or Ali asked him this. If that was your main intention coming on the show, like why did you then keep bringing your guitar And so I think I would have played it out to see Like if you're here for me And of course I know that you play music And you sing right and whatever That's one thing

But if I already know that you don't need to keep doing it So I would just play it out Also I don't know offense I don't think Jed's my type So probably not Yeah I would send him home two seconds Yeah Okay but we all know how that ended

And how it worked out And Hannah is much better off without him And she's doing her thing Next top OMG moment of 2019 Christine, Christina learns that Dean was, quote, in love with her, unquote, when they were dating. Let's listen. It's been two years since my time on the beach. I had so much going to do because following Paradise for that following year, Dean and I actually tried still seeing each other.

So that was a very insightful and very, I learned a lot from that relationship. Dean said he was in love with you on the podcast. I just want to say that. What? I just got the chills. On our podcast... We've never said it to each other and I didn't know. On our podcast, Dean said that he was in love with you. Wow.

I'll say it was never verbalized, but the feeling was mutual. I'm calling bullshit on that one. Keep going. I just... Okay. If you love somebody, you're going to tell them. And you're not going to use it as a cop-out on that. somebody else's podcast

Like there's What's the point at this point And even saying that Well that's why I believed him Because Really? Yes Well first of all

I'm in love with Christina I mean I just love her See you later tonight I really am At your um Tequila And what is it Tequila

Tracksuits Tequila But the reason I believed him is because It did not benefit him To say that at the time Was he with Kalin at this point When he said that

He was with Kalin everybody knows that I didn't when it comes to the whole situation I have not been team Kalen so to make that confession on our podcast and you're currently with Kalin that could have really been detrimental to his relationship

because he didn't have to say it it wasn't like I said were you in love with her I don't think I even asked him that he just said it and I was like whoa definitely gonna tell Christina did he explain then why he never told that to her no I don't even think we asked. I think Allie and I were both like, what? Um, yeah, I think, I think he thought it was understood, which kind of showed the level of, most guys do. Yeah, which kind of showed the level of

maturity when it come, when it came to their relationship. But it was definitely like an O-M-G. I mean, I literally might have been on my phone like, girl, let me tell you what did he just say. Wait, can you just repeat that? I'm going to put my phone on speaker real quick for my girl here. No, but I mean, it, I mean, it seems. Assuming they'll still be together in this podcast. I mean, it seems like it didn't hurt Dean's relationship with Kaylin, but that is why I believed him because that was a risky thing to say. Being in a relationship with someone who we know had a tumultuous relationship with Christina.

That is a good point. I guess I don't know enough of, again, because I didn't watch all of Paradise. I don't know enough of what. I didn't watch the season that they were on. years ago. So I don't know what the extent of it was, but I just, I have a problem. I, I know I season, I kept pushing honesty. And so it's like if you felt that for somebody in the moment, you should have said that and, and not, not to say it was a cop out now. I don't know. And maybe he said it because he truly meant it. Maybe he said it because he wanted to appear like more

emotional and like he did have that capacity. I'm not sure because I don't really know Dean. But I just, if you feel something that strongly about and loves a big deal, then you shouldn't throw it around lightly and you should tell that person. I will say in the moment, I will say in the moment he made it seem like he didn't realize he did. It was kind of like in reflecting back. Once he lost her. He was like, oh, I really believe I was, you know, I thought I was in love with her at the time. It seemed more like that.

Okay. Okay, I'm going to do the next one. The next, number two, on the list of the top five OMG moments of 2019. Ari admits the real reason he went to Winter Games was to see Lauren's producer and ask how she was. Okay, I want to talk to you guys about this because, Lauren, we've never spoken. But I have spoken about you actually with Ari before I knew it was you. Okay, Ari, you want to take us back in time a bit? Because the first time I met Ari, it was during, we were on the road to winter games.

Okay. And we had a blast. Okay. Yeah, it was a good day. Was it not? We had so much fun. So we're in the middle of nowhere. Could have been Iceland from the way it was looking.

And we had nothing to do but eats me, Ari and Jojo, eat and drink. And so we're having such a good time. And so Ari just really started opening up to us and talking to us. And Jojo and I are listening. And so this is also, Ari's season, was the first time I got to watch a season and had no... Yeah, she didn't want to be spoiled.

She's like, don't tell me names. I don't want to know names. Yes, so it was one and two. That's how we were referring to things. And I'm just listening to him talk about the season and I, and Joach and I look at each other and we were like, you know, we really think you like that number two. That number two? I think that's who you need to be with. And at the time, we didn't know it was you. So it's funny that we knew that and we were holding on to that secret and then come to find out you guys are, it is number two.

Number two is the one. And now you guys are happy, you know, married, parents. I'm dating number three. And you're dating number three. Don't make a weird joke. It's hilarious. It's all right. You know, it's the Bachelor world.

That's what we set up for. No, but I remember like thinking about winter games and I was like, oh, you know, if I go to winter games, I can probably see Lauren. producer and then maybe like see how she's doing you know i was like that was my whole motivation for actually going to winter games is it weird to hear that yeah um well that yes that is my first time of hearing it um where do i begin um okay the timeline of everything is very interesting because when ari and i i mean to me obviously this is fresh and new but from how he made it seem the entire time after we got engaged to when he ended things that like his feelings for her were done the only thing I ever knew that he felt bad about

is how things ended in like for hurting somebody which I could understand which is normal which of course is normal like and I had even talked to Garrett after our season like I feel bad for like you don't have enough time to really explain everything to your runner up and so So I totally could empathize in that regard. But everything that he had said when him and I were together was like, I'm happy. Like, I feel bad about it, but I don't want, I don't want a part of that. Like, so what I was being told versus what he was really thinking is clearly completely different. You know, what I think pisses me off the most is that right before Winter Games, he had me knit a scarf so he could wear it to Winter Games.

And that took me a fucking long time. So he could wear it and be like, oh, yeah, my fiance ended this scarf. And that took me so many hours. Did you wear it during the show? I don't know. I don't remember. I wish I would have known about that scarf back then. That damn scarf.

But at the time, I didn't know who you were. Right. At the time he was saying, you were number one and number two. And we were just like, my gosh, you just kind of need to nip this in the bud, because this does not sound okay. Well, and, you know, like, I think it's, obviously he loved Lauren. Like, he cared about her. He should have been much more upfront about that.

But I had said since day one when I knew he was struggling with, like, that guilt, I was like, why don't you reach out to her? I was always the one to say, you should. I was very big of you. I remember. Yeah. So it's not like he needed to go and see this producer and ask how she was doing. I had told him right away, like, you should, if you need to get that guilt off your chest, you should do it. Yeah.

So it was never, that was never the issue. So I think, like, for him to say, oh, I just wanted to check in on her. Like, you could have done that on your own. Yeah. He clearly had ulterior motives, which we all know how that story ends. So moving on. Moving on. Good riddance.

All right, moving on to number one. Blake calls out Kalin for her confusing timeline. Says they were talking for months, but while they were talking, she was still, quote, heartbroken over Colton, unquote, for after the final rose, and interviewing to be The Bachelorette. And let's hear that. I was with Colton, and he had FaceTimed Cassie. Give me months.

Because I don't think the timelines add up, so I want to, like, put everything together. Yeah, this was roughly, so the first time I ever, like, it was on the FaceTime time was the, like, roughly mid-December-ish. I can't remember the exact date. December 2018, you guys. Let's go. So, yeah, so we had, I was just with Colton, FaceTime Cassie, and I was with him. And, of course, you know, Caitlin Cassie, our best friends.

She popped in. I said, hi. You know, it was one of those. Colton's like, Colton did. He, like, set us up. It was one of those. It was like, you should have his number, blah, blah, that kind of thing. Started talking. Talk till about mid-March.

I want to say March 8th is when it was kind of like we didn't really talk. But we had talked to about mid-March, but it wasn't like, it was very sporadically. Defined talking? Because to her, it's Face-Timing three times a day. We definitely didn't FaceTime three times a day. We did FaceTime. We did. But it was definitely not three times a day.

And we did. How much was it? What? How much was it? 12 times probably total in that like what was that four months span yeah 12 15 times yeah okay yeah and you seemed confused ali because that is not what caylin said yeah that's not that is not what she said yeah 12 15 times through the the three months that we talked to can we get your phone records no yeah I'm learning from rachel lawyer rachel I want the facts yeah um I guess within

that and I'm trying to establish a timeline because like ali said this is where things get sticky. Did you watch Women Tell All on Colton season? I did. And that's filmed about February, towards the end of February, and you guys were still communicating at this point. You get why I'm asking you that question. You watched it, right? And what we saw was how emotional Kalin was about Colton and how the love that she had for him and how heartbroken she was and she was crying. And as a viewer, you felt that. But according to what both of you guys are saying, even Caitlin says she had talked to you for a few months before stage coach. So it's confusing as to why you have such – Kaylan had such tears in talking about Colton and how – and it seemed very present tense.

But in the meantime, she's talking to you and has some sort of connection. You know, for her, it seems like maybe it was deeper, but for you, it was more of like something casual getting to know each other. What were your thoughts when you watched Women Tell All and you saw that? Yeah, so, and yeah, I think you even kind of saw it on Colton's face a little bit. I think he was kind of like taken aback by the way, because he knew that we were talking. I think you kind of saw it on Colton's face too. He was kind of like, wait a minute. And didn't they live together at that point?

Didn't Cassie, Kailen, and Colton all lived together? Yeah. Basically, I think, yeah, yeah. I just don't think that they had cast it the Bachelorette at that point. No, that is very correct, yes. So I feel like I've said a lot when it comes to the Kalen. situation so i i'm very curious as to your thoughts um and opinions on it yes maybe maybe i'll chime so this it's a sticky situation because obviously i don't think anyone's going to know the full

truth we're going to hear both sides of both kailen and uh blake's story i will say this though you know i i'm not close with blake anymore obviously got to know him on the show he though I think he's a pretty honest dude I think he tells the truth he dealt with a lot and I don't think I don't think his timeline

is inaccurate I think what he's saying really was pretty factual again I don't know full details but I think like just I I know Blake a little bit better than Kaelin

because obviously I spent two months with him I think he's an honest guy And I don't think he was put through the ringer, but I think that everything he's saying in the timelines really do add up. I think what they both went through was really crappy. I mean, I don't envy either of them. Also, I don't think I would ever want to do Paradise after everything. You could not pay me enough to ever do that. But I have to say, I think I believe Blake a little bit more in this regard.

Granted, I didn't read all of the text messages that were released because they were deleted. You probably believe in even more. Well, and also, so when this all went down, Garrett and I were in Bali, and my phone, I was like 13 hours ahead of back here. So my phone was blowing up from people being like, oh my God, can you believe what's going down? Guess what's happening? And I had no idea. I'm like, I'm just trying to sip a peanut clad in, like, get a sun tan over here. So it wasn't until I came back that I started catching up on some of it.

But, yeah, I mean, when you're in talks for The Bad Shorette, it's not that quick. I mean, like, you have some time to think about it, and I'm sure she had time to chat with him, but leave her options open. So I think my take on it, and I'm probably going to get a lot of backlash for this, is that, like, what Blake said went. Like it probably was more of a, not an open relationship, but a much more chill. Like, let's see what happens. Like, nothing serious. Yeah. I don't think that you should, well, thank you for sharing your opinion.

I don't think you should get flack for it. I think you're being honest, which is what you do. Like when you podcast or you're, you know, analyzing the show, you look at what you're being shown. Sometimes you have outside variables like the text messages or all this drama surrounding their situation and you give your opinion on it. I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. And I think that, you know, as long as you have a reason for believing that, that's fine. Just like you're open for someone disagreeing with what you say. I think the hardest thing is when doing this and giving an opinion when it comes to women giving opinions about women,

a lot of times the negative is, oh my goodness, you're not empowering women. And it's like, no, I'm not empowering bad behavior. It is nothing against I'm saying, I can't stand her as a woman. I'm just not agreeing with the behavior that was exhibited by this woman. And there is such a difference in that. And like you said, from the very beginning, we will never know the truth. We weren't there. We weren't involved with it.

But it looks bad on both ends. I've said what I said on prior podcasts, and I mean them. And I mean, it seems like everybody is doing just fine. now and hopefully they leave all that energy in 2019 and in 2020 they can move on with their lives do their own thing and we don't have to talk about it again

I just wanted to say right now starting 2020 no one should go to stage coach and no one should talk to each other before paradise unless stage coach pays you because the publicity the stage coach has received from the Bachelor franchise you can't pay for that

you could not pay me enough to go I would never go I better be performing no I better be paid and performing on the flyer, everything for me to be able to go. And I mean that like as in a Blake who's given it so much attention. Well, that sums up our top five OMG moments. It was so hard to get them down to five. But I think we've done a really good job of summarizing the top five. I really enjoyed doing this, though. Well, I've enjoyed listening to you week after week. I will say, I want to flip the script a little bit because Rachel, you have done such an amazing job at hosting this week after week.

I now want to try to take your place and do the interviewing. Nope, that's it. We haven't. We're done. We got to hear from you, girl. Thank you, 2019. We'll see you guys in 2020. Rachel, besides me, who has been your very favorite interview so far?

Oh, that's an easy one. Neil Lane. Oh, hands down, Neil Lane. He was a treat. You guys, I know you enjoyed listening to the podcast with him because you thought you were going to hear one thing, and you got something completely different, but it could do it no justice.

He needs to be in the room with him and fill his energy. He just needs to co-host with us at his house. Selfishly. That's what we would love to do. Yes. All right, so of course, in the spirit of the holidays, we have to play a game. We love to play games on Bachelor Happy Hour.

So, of course, we're going to play naughty or nice. And Becca and I are going to be playing Santa Claus here. and we're basically going to name a member of Bachelnation, and then we're going to say whether they're on the nice list or the naughty list. Got it. I feel like we're going to get in trouble for this. This is not going to end well, but starting off, Demi Burnett. Nottie or nice.

Nottie, but only because I love her and she's a little sass. I'm going to put her on the nice list. Okay. And I mean naughty in the best way, Demi. Yeah. Blake. Notty or nice. Nice.

Nice. Yeah. Tia. Nice. Nice. Colton. Nottie. Let me ask.

this. Colton. Nottie. Okay. We'll go with that one. Ashley I. Nottie. Oh. What about you? I would say nice. Clay. Nice. Nice. Yep. Tisha. Nice. Dean. Nottie. Nick. Nice. Oh. You know, Nick Bow is a special place of my heart. He's the Civil War. He just merely mentioned it. Okay. Okay. You know he's the general of this battle.

Grocer store Joe. Oh, you should be good. It's okay. It's nice. I think we're going to agree on that. It's a nice. Trista Sutter. Nice.

Tanner. Nottie. J.P.J. Nottie. I'm team Tation. Not that there's no bad blood. No, I do love Tation, but I would say. I mean, okay, the way you mean Dimmie, Nottie in a good way.

I mean JPJ, Nottie in a good way, too. Okay. You guys are on our naughty. nice list, if that makes sense. All right. Kaelan. Nottie. Jett.

Nottie. He didn't even make the list. He doesn't even get cold. Hannah G. Nice. Ari. Okay. In the spirit of you being my co-host,

fucking naughty. Super naughty. He's the one driving. He can fly with the reindeer in the sleigh. Just kidding. What? Chris Harrison. Nice.

Noddy. I definitely say naughty. I know what you mean when you say that, though. Garrett. Nice. Why isn't Brian's name on here? I'll say Brian. Nice.

Miss Minow. Definitely naughty. Oh, I was going to say nice. She's been so good since she's been here. She's been very good since she's been here because she's on her best behavior. I had to prep for the podcast. She's so good. Wait until she leaves a little nugget of coal in the corner.

Copper. Nice. Definitely nice. He's like, he's so good. Is he single? He is, but he's also Is he? Yeah.

Well, that's, I mean, Minow can be a nice little sidekick. I'll show you his Halloween costume way. All right, Becca, I've had too good of a time chatting with you. It's been so much fun to host these podcasts with you. I hope you've enjoyed yourself too, though. I have enjoyed myself, I think, too much. Yeah, no, no, no.

My cheeks hurt from laughing. It's always such a fun time with you, but I am happy as much as I love Bachelor Happy Hour. I am glad this is the last episode of the year. and I'm glad that it's with you. I have to tell you that. But I have one more question for you before we go. Okay.

Do you and Garrett have any goals or resolutions for 2020? Oh, man. I think we definitely do. I think our number one goal is to buy a house. I don't know where yet, whether we're going to live in it right now or just use it as an investment property. But I want to be an adult and finally buy. I'm sick of renting. I'm over it.

I'm so team. renting by the way. Are you? But I like what you said. Like if we buy, we probably end up renting it out because our New Year's resolution needs to be where the Abasolo is living. Yeah. That's, that's really the thing. Come closer to us. It's looking that way. At least if this Avicolo has a say in it. But no, Becca, thank you so much again for being here. Thank you Bachelor Nation for listening. Happy holidays to you guys. Be safe. We will see you in 2020. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip for from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.

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