Bachelor Happy Hour - Becca & Rachel Break Down Hometowns and Reminisce on Their Own

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Hometown week is finally here, and Rachel and Becca discuss Matt James’ four Hometown Dates and the highs and lows from last night’s episode. Plus, taking a trip down memory lane, Rachel and Becca each recall their own Hometown Dates — both when on “The Bachelor” and as the Bachelorette. Becca looks back on her mother’s reaction to a possible proposal from Arie, and Rachel reveals why her favorite Hometown was Bryan’s — and it’s not for the reason you think! Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.   See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Welcome back, happy hour listeners. Now, I know I said this last week, but we're going to do it again and we're going to be doing things a little bit differently because we're not having a guest today. Rachel and I just thought we'll hop on here

and give a good old, old-fashioned recap for you all, which I need to preface it with this. It feels very strange to be doing this and get caught up in the show. when everything has gone down in the past week and a half within the franchise. But Rachel, it is a job. We are professionals most of the time. So here we go.

But I do have to say, Rachel just showed me she's drinking some Bordeaux with some good old tinfoil on the... Becca, do you call this tin foil? Tinfoil. Oh, I just say foil. I've never heard so... I mean, it is tin foil. I've just never heard somebody use the full name. Got to give it the problem.

Wait, do you say aluminum or aluminium? Aluminium. Okay. The fact that you can't say it, it's aluminum. Somebody the other day said aluminum. And I thought they were talking about a rocket ship or something. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? Where were they from? Yeah. But pro tip here for anyone who loves to drink some champagne stock up on your Bordeaux, don't. Don't put the tin file on the top. Just stick a spoon in it. And it'll keep the bubbles. It keeps it fresh. Rachel, before we get into all that we saw go down with hometowns, you know, we will. get into, I don't even want to say the drama. There was really no drama during hometowns, but I just want to check in with you as a friend. Overall, how are you doing? How's your head? How's your heart? You know, I was okay initially. I'm not 100% okay now. Just more like just sad as humanity. Just like that's really what it comes down to. It's just sad the way people think. and I don't care what side you're on on this.

It's just sad. We are so divided, like to be a link to a story, to be part of a story, and then to see how, and I lived it, I was in it. So like it doesn't get more truthful to me

and the other person, Chris, that was involved in it. And just to see how people are twisting things and like kind of like adding their own flair to the story. And it's getting so far away. from what originally happened. It's just disheartening the name calling, the accusations, the assumptions, the misconceptions, the stereotypes. It's just, it's a lot. It's a lot, you know.

But if you think it's going to make me stop doing the things that I'm doing, you got me F up. All it does is emboldened and empower me. I know my brand. I know who I am. I know what I stand for and I'm never going to stop, you know, standing for those things. Nor will I stop doing my job, which at the end of the day, that's exactly what I was doing, my damn job. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, and to your point through all of this, you have handled things with so much class, with so much grace. You, I think I said this on the top of the podcast last week, but you are a fighter and you are such a good friend. And I mean, I'm always inspired by you. I'm always just in awe of you and your presence and how you carry yourself and you continue to fight for what is right.

And so for me personally, I just, I'm giving you a virtual hug and I want you just to know how much I still look up to you and respect to you and just keep being you. Keep shining. Your support is everything. Thank you, Becca. You're always so sweet. You're always so sweet. And this is why I love you, Rachel Lindsay. I just love you to the podcast. We have the good weeks. We have the bad weeks. We have drama. We have zero drama. Whatever it could be, the ups and the downs, you know, we got each other. I think with that being said, we'll put our little therapy session aside and just get into it, right? Because you're right.

It's hometowns. And I want to say something. Give it to me. The reason we don't have a guest is because nobody wanted to recap this episode. You know why? It was boring with the capital B. It's the most linear episode I've ever seen in all my bachelor years. There was nothing.

I kept, Becca, tell me if you feel the same way. I kept waiting for something to happen. I kept rewining it. Oh, I must have missed what he said. Okay. I had missed, must have missed it. No, you didn't miss anything. Nothing happened.

And I mean, I guess that's, it's almost like they were all the same hometowns, just put in a different parent, a different sister, a different, you know, contestant. But it was all the same, the same conversations. the same responses, right? Yeah, there was, it was, there was no pizzazz. There was no shoes. And it's so interesting because all season, I feel like there's been so much drama and so much cattyness and just heaviness.

And I'm like, I just want a normal episode, you know? Like, I just want the love stories. And now that we have it, we're like, wait, where's the drama? What are we watching people? Be careful what you ask for. Exactly. This was not it. You know what?

If Serena P. Had it self-eliminated, nothing. would have happened. There would have been really nothing at all. And I don't know if it's due to the fact that, like, they can't travel home and there's, they can't really show where they grew up. It's like, it's hard to bring a city and a hometown to nemacolin. But it was just, yeah, I mean, at one point, I mean, not even at one point. For most of it, I just kind of zoned out. And I was like, oh, you know, I'll take some pictures, paint my nails, do whatever I got to do. But, I mean, I guess this is the moment where the love stories really are coming out.

did you long for the cardboard taxi I know I did I said damn it Rachel you spoke too soon I longed for the days of the cardboard taxi I Tasha's hometowns we might have joked about them but there was some

pizzazz as you say it was interesting there was it was fun there was character to it I don't know like even though they were only on the little Lakeith the property, Matt had an opportunity to be bigger and better. It seems like they left the property a bit and it still was just so flat. Even Rachel falling out of the sky onto her

face. It still was anti-climactic. I don't know. There was just nothing. Nothing did it for me. Yeah. You know what? I think this is a good point to just walk down memory lane because I feel like what we lived was maybe way more exciting than when we saw go down. So why not take a step back to the old wonder years, if you will. When you were, well, I want to get both into when you were on next season for your hometown date and then when you were bachelor's on those. So on next season, you brought him to church, correct? Yes.

To your hometown. What was your favorite part about showing him around? I was really eager to take Nick to church because even though I wasn't well-versed on Bachelor before my season, I figured this was something, well, one, I knew a black person had never made it this far. I'd never had a hometown. So I knew whatever I was doing was going to be very new to this audience. So I really wanted to show him what a typical Sunday was like for me,

which was church, which was so much fun. Even I remember the cast and crew were like, thank you so much for taking us to church. We had a blast. Like Nick was clapping. He wanted to dance. And I was like, chill out. Like, you know, like, don't embarrass me in front of these folks.

I actually come back here every Sunday. You, on the other hand, could be just a visitor. I don't know where this is going to go. Then we went to brunch at a hotel Zaza, which I don't even know if that brunch is still popping, but it was popping back in 2016 when I went. And which is typically, you go to church, you go to brunch with friends, maybe you watched some football and then we went to my parents' house because sometimes that's what we do is Sunday lunch or Sunday dinner and it was a lot of fun.

The girls had a lot of emotion. I don't remember being that emotional. They all were crying. See what I'm saying? Everything was the same. You cry, you cry, you cry, you cry. You have a boring home town. You have a boring home time.

Everything was so linear. My God. I wasn't emotional like that. I was just so happy to see my family. And I remember there was a big game on that day. It was Packers, maybe, and somebody else. Maybe it was Packers in Calvitt. I can't remember.

It's a big game on. So it was like, we can't sneak it away to watch the game. But no, my hometown was fun. It was easy. Nick fit in in a very effortless way. We ate a little soul food. We had good conversation. my parents my family kept it real i loved it what about yours there well there's just something to be said

for being back where you grew up like driving down and being able to point out that's my school that's where i had my first kiss that's where i got in the car crash whatever it might be there's just something special about that that the past two seasons it's just lacking um what did i do so when i brought ari to my hometown we went apple picking which oh yeah which is something i I grew up doing with my family all the time, and the orchard that I took him to was amazing because not only could we pick apples, but they had this slingshot. I don't even know if this aired, but we had a massive slingshot where you could put the apples in and try to hit the targets. But the day that we filmed, it was freezing. It was snowing. It was so cold. I thought there,

I was like, I don't even know if there shouldn't be apples to pick. Like, art department's going to really have to show up overtime because it was so frozen. I ended up working out. We, just sat and drank whiskey in front of the fire and made caramel apples. But yeah, I mean, doing a hometown in Minnesota in the winter is not the easiest. But I think it was, I didn't cry. I was so excited to just see my family. Like the fact that they, you know, there's like so much weight, like stop and go, stop and go and wait. I was sitting out in the car in front of my mom's house for maybe 45 minutes before I could actually meet him to walk up. And I was so antsy i'm quitting the show now like i just want to run in there i want to see my family um but

it was just there's something about being like seeing all of your family's artwork and being at the kitchen table that you grew up where there's crayon and marker stains all over that just make it special but my favorite part and this i didn't even realize in the moment until it aired back later um there was a part which all you know what is what's the saying um in hindsight, everything is 2020. There was a moment where I was sitting down with my mom talking about, you know, like how this could potentially end and, you know, we are falling for each other

and this could end in an engagement. My mom looks at me and she just goes, no. That's all she said. Nope, shakes her head. And that I think now, because hindsight was probably one of my favorite moments because I think in that moment she knew that it wasn't going to work out or like it wasn't totally right or there.

But, yeah, it's just, Mother knows best. It's so funny that you say that because I kept looking for my parents to be like, no, this ain't it, snap out of it. And they were like, he's cool. And I thought, no, you are the reality that is supposed to check the situation. So I remember walking away being like, oh, my gosh, my parents liked him a lot. My family liked him.

They were very accepting of him. They were supposed to check me and bring me back to reality. Right. And they were like, no, this is what you want. This is great. And I was completely thrown off about that. It's funny that you talk about waiting outside of your family home. We waited for almost two hours outside my home.

Do you know why? Why? Do you know why? Because my sister, in true older sister, Constance fashion, wore a shirt that was moraying on camera. And they told her not to wear that shirt. She had picked this outfit out, she's taken the time, the money, and she wanted to wear it. Put her on camera, doesn't work.

She spent two hours upset and, like, venting and angry over the fact she couldn't wear the shirt until finally she picked out the shirt that she was wearing. Then my sister, against the advice of my mother and my younger sister, decided to announce her pregnancy during my hometown as well. it ain't about Rachel it's about my sister I remember thinking I remember I was talking I was like well if this ain't showing you how the family is I don't know what I don't know what else is I totally made the whole hometown about herself I love that only because I feel like that compared to my sister and I that would have totally been me totally totally but if I would have waited two hours because you know it's like everything has to be filmed within a certain time like you you can't go all night filming I would have been so I would have walked in that house and be like take your top off or you're not coming on

you're not coming to the state like do what you got to do I should have I should have um okay the who was your favorite because we we obviously had four hometowns when it came to when we were bachelorette don't want to go through all of them who is your favorite like for me personally when I was lead now when you were the lead as the bachelorette um who was your favorite hometown I would say Blake probably Was that Betty Who? That was Betty Who

Oh I mean come on Yeah there's no time of Betty Who I mean honestly I had more of a hometown I think with Betty Who like her and I just had a moment We were laying on the floor like rolling around singing dancing But I and I don't get I think it's because I don't get Completely surprised and shocked ever really in my life

That that was the first time where I was like, speechless, like, what the hell is my life right now? And she's like one of your favorite artists, right? Mm-hmm. She is. And I think it's, and I think he knew that because coming back from a date prior to that, we were in the van for like 15 minutes driving back to a hotel. And I mentioned her.

And I think he went to his producer and was like, hey, she loves Betty Hu, how can we make this happen? And the powers at B somehow got her and showed up to Betty, you are incredible, by the way. Yeah, I was blown away. I thought we were going to go to his high school and play basketball or something. I was like, oh, this will be fun. I don't like him.

I'll do whatever. And then the fact that it was Betty, who I almost fell over. Like, I think I drew blood on his arm because I was so shocked because I like spun around. And I was like, what? I'm so excited. That's pretty awesome. I mean, I would say mine is Brian's and not even because I ended up with him. But it gave me a taste of who he is.

And then we did little things that I would love. love to do in real life, like explore the city. We explored a certain area of Miami. And then he introduced me to a food, a certain Colombian food. And then we were like walking the street. And then we stopped and bought like little trinkets and stuff. Then we went dancing to live music, which is one of my favorite things to do. And so I was just like, oh, I love just like the flavor of all of this. And it was just a lot of fun. And it felt very despite the cameras, despite being miced, and if it was an actual TV show. It felt very real life. And it felt very comfortable and effortless. And I was like, yeah. I would have hated if he had taken me to like on a yacht and shown me like the more glamorous

side of Miami that's just like all the fluff and, you know, just very stereotypical Miami. He showed me the heart of Miami. Like us playing dominoes. He listened, I love playing dominoes. Like playing domino's Domino Park and all of that like that to me was like oh you hear me you know getting that's why it's always interesting when I watch some hometowns when like somebody will go horseback riding or bungee jumping or like you said on a yacht it's like but are you doing this in real life like isn't this supposed to be all encompassing of who you are at home and so I never understand maybe it's just like they ran out of content I don't know no ideas but um yeah I would have loved that day to just exploring a city and having somebody to show you, like, their favorite go-to spots.

Absolutely. Whose family were you most nervous to meet? Brian's. Hands down, Ryan. Because of his mom and. Because of his mom, what he had told me? He was my first hometown that I had. Yeah, between his mom and the first hometown.

And I distinctly remember thinking, these could be my in-laws. So I really want to make a good impression. Yeah. Like, I was nervous even walking up. I remember, and it's so weird now to think about it because I go to that house all the time, but I remember standing around the corner, we were walking, and then I stopped and I was like, no, no, no, wait, wait, just give me a second. Just give me a second.

I was thinking, these could be my in-laws. And I didn't really have that same thought with the other ones. Like, I was nervous, but I was really nervous for Bryans. And he'll reference that too. Wait, who is your top four? Brian, Peter, Eric, Dean. Eric was the fourth. Okay.

Yeah. Eric's was fun too. And obviously Deans was the most awkward. Right. But my role in Deans was more of like, I wanted to make him feel comfortable because he was so uncomfortable and worried about what I was thinking. I felt out. It took, it was like a matronly role. I was just like, I just want him to know.

And it was fine. But I wanted him to know I'm okay. Everything's all good. Like, let's just go meet your family. We'll have a good time. and I wanted him to know like, okay, we're going to be fine. Nothing's weird. It's all good.

And he made it through. And he made it through. It was fine. I actually enjoyed it until it just got like crazy towards the end. Let's just get into it with these ladies. I feel like it's not going to take a song. Yeah. Did you have a favorite?

Did somebody stick out to you? My favorite would have been, I liked Serena's only because I felt like she actually brought a piece of home with her on her date. Like all the other ones didn't feel like anything unique to them. It's like anyone can go biking. Anyone can go skydiving. Well, Michelle's, I actually really did like Michelle's date. The biking?

No, not that. I forgot about that. I probably dozed off. The kids. Oh, that is. Rachel, I totally forgot about that. Well, I don't blame you. But the kids was, I thought, oh, whoever planned this,

this is a really, really cute idea. Yeah, that was sweet. That was sweet. I am. And honestly, it felt like she didn't exactly know if, like, who was all going to show up. Like, if the entire class was going to be there. Yeah, I can't believe I cut that part. No, no, I get it.

That part was wonderful. And then, yeah, I think Serena P is just because it felt like something different and unique to her. It was cute. I will say, I too. Matt James call the hat that is currently on my head a toboggan. No, no. Rachel, it's a sled.

No. I'm going to go ahead and say, this is something that's with black folks. When Matt said it, I said, yeah, that is what we call this on our head. Is it toboggan? I mean, a beanie, yes, I know, but we also say toboggan. So when Matt said it, I go, yes.

That's what we say. I did an Instagram poll on my story, maybe three weeks ago about this because I always called a beanie. Canadians called it, what a took? And then somebody, some random person was like, no, it's a toboggan. And I was like, black. So is it a southern thing? Because I don't know. And maybe it's a southern thing. But I, when he said it, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we call it. It's a bagging. I had this whole debate with my uncle because he went like back in the roots of how it started being called this. And I was like, I just, all I know is a toboggan is what you put your ass in.

And we don't, I mean, except for what's happening right now in Texas, we don't typically use tobogins. So we don't know anything about that. Also, if you're listening to this podcast and you're in Texas, we hope you are safe. We hope that you are somewhere that is warm, that has power. But Becca, shout out to Maya. This one's for you, Maya. Maya has given us the definition of a toboggan. It is one of a vast array of words used to.

to describe a knit hat. Because of the freezing conditions, toboggan riders are often, oh gosh, I cannot read. Because of the freezing conditions, Tobogun riders often wore knit hats to keep warm. These hats soon became noticed toboggin hats. But since at least 1929,

the second word has been dropped, meaning they are just called toboggins. Interesting. You'll learn something new every day. Yeah. Also, black folks. say it. When I think of a toboggan, I don't know why this pops into my head is care bears. That's it. I'd like to show you something. Hold on a second.

Okay. What do you have to show me, Rachel? Okay. Since you mentioned toboggins and care bears, I'd like to show you something. Stop. I feel like I had one. I wonder if my mom still has wine. It looks a little disheveled, but this is grumpy. He's from 1985. I'm pretty sure he's probably worth something now. Well, now that he's yours, it definitely is. Do you sleep with him every night? Yes.

When copper is not trying to attack him. And this, you mentioned care bears, but maybe that's why I have a love for toboggins. Maybe that's why I called from that. We've called him a grom here. We have Grumpy here with us today. Grumpy, how did you feel about hometowns? His face says it all. crickets. I get it. I feel you, man.

How did I not know that you slept with the camera? I talk about sleeping with my Blanky all the time and people give me so much crap for it. But you also have advice. Grumpy. Now, if he really is worth a lot of money, I'm selling him. How does Brian feel about him? He moves him to the side, but he's around. He's around. He's still here. He's the first man in your life. He's the first man in my life. 1985, grumpy. And the name fits.

Um, okay, so we have gone down the wrong path between vitamin and grumpy. I'm revealing all the things that I, that I love outside of Basternation. I don't even want to like break down these days, like the activities. I just want to get into like the families and the conversations. Yeah, let's go. Following your lead. All four of these.

What family stuck out to? Whoa. Oh my gosh. I'm pretty into Rachel. cannot talk stuck out to you the most or did anyone ask like a really good question i guess michelle maybe because she was first michelle Michelle's family stood out they seemed to care um her whatever she went through in the last relationship you could tell her family was very much so involved so she's very close to them uh

Seems like she leaned on them when she was going through it. They seemed to, like, really be concerned about that. But also we're very perceptive of how she was filling with Matt. Like, the mom was like, I'm paying attention to how he looks at you. And then she was kind of asking the questions before Michelle was even able to talk about it. Like, she just knew. Like, they were very much so in sync. They got it.

I just like Michelle. She is very, I would have guessed she was a teacher before I. news she just seems very like she gives off that vibe very warm you just seem like you're comfortable with her there's no airs about her what you see is what you get very things just seem effortless with her i like michel i do too she yeah it felt like watching the way that they interacted it's not over the top it's not like in your face she like her family really truly maybe it's the the Minnesota kind of reminded me of how mine was like just very even keeled would ask the right questions like it wasn't you know they were a little bit hesitant of maybe like how the show was

running but still like open and trusting their daughter I do like how they were like we trust her daughter like you know if she's feeling this way then we'll go with it we will accept the relationship whatever that might be um I think out of all of the families I I I I I liked Serena's sister because she was the first one to call her out and be like, hey, I don't see it with you. There's no pizzazz. Something's missing. I like it too. Which I think it's so easy.

And granted, like I can't put myself in my family shoes because I'm the one who went on the show. But I think it's very easy for people to feel like they want this love story to work out. And it's like this beautiful, perfect, like extravagant. situation where they want, they of course want the loved one to find a partner. But the fact that she's like, I don't know, you just seem different. It's not like you're not all in. I'm glad that she had that moment because had her sister and her mom not had that conversation. I don't know if she would have sent herself home. Do you? No, you're right. That's, that is what I was trying to get from my family, like a reality check. I mean, I liked Nick. But I thought that they would

have checked me, like her family checked her. I guess they were like, no, you look like you really like this man. We're just going to let you go. Yeah, I thought, I absolutely agree with you. If Serena didn't get that from her family, I don't know if she would have been able to see it. And that's the beauty of hometowns. I think that's the bigger picture is your family is your reality check. They're not living in the bachelor bubble. They don't understand what it is to go through this accelerated version of finding your person and falling in love. You can tell I've been watching Grey's Anatomy that I just said my person. I mean, I know Serena Peace That is who. And I actually really don't like when people say that. But I've been watching

a lot of Grey's Anatomy. Shout out to Christina and Meredith and Meredith Gray, who are each other's persons. Best friends. No, but I liked that. Serena would have been my second pick of a favorite hometown just because there seemed to be of like, let's just like cut the BS. and get right to it. Serena, this ain't for you. And kudos to Serena for taking that and then actually saying that's true. Kudos to Serena for being able to take that in and say, oh no, I was saying a lot of times you see other families try to tell the contestant, hey, you know, like, I don't really see it or are you sure? And they just kind of brush that off because of what they're feeling in the bubble.

Serena said, I'm going to listen to my people. My people know me. They get me. And, you know, she made her decision thereafter. When they sit down and she's, you know, kind of hesitant about how she's feeling with him and he and he just goes, just trust me, just trust me. Was there a disconnect there? Because I'm sitting there as a viewer being like, she's trying to tell you how she's

feeling right now. She's like not fully in. She doesn't know how she totally feels. but for you to just say, just trust me, seems like a very odd response, correct? Yes. There seems to be a disconnect with Matt and all the women except for Rachel, which it was interesting that he came back and then said all those things

because there wasn't a disconnect at that point. Yeah, it was weird. It's like, I don't know if he took it as she was hesitant because she was thinking, oh, he still has through their way. I don't know. I was looking at it like, oh, she was. she wants out and she just can't fully say it right now and he's like still trying to convince her but I don't even think he was aware that that was happening like it was just strange but then

but then when um they actually sit down for her to leave when when he said goodbye it didn't seem choppy when he's just like okay well can I walk you out or can he walk me out there was like no like I could tell he was upset but do you think it was because he was gutted or because he was this was one of the first girls who really self-eliminated, besides Kit. I think that he felt embarrassed that he said, came to her room, took that time, extra time to come and talk to her, and then she was like, yeah. And then she said, you're not my person. She could have just said, you know what, like, I'm not ready.

She said, it's not even that I'm not ready. I don't see it with you. Like, it was kind of harsh. She didn't say it harsh, but it was like very direct. Which I liked. I appreciate it. of that. Oh, loved it. Love that she was so matter of fact about it. She didn't read around the bush. She was just like, nope, it's not you. And I think that caught him off guard. Now,

and you see that he was kind of like taken aback. There was the silence. And then in the car, he seemed upset. And then we saw the emotion from him. And my voice kind of goes up. The emotion, with a question mark from him, I'm convinced they took that from something else. That just didn't flow quite right with me. I said, where's this tear coming from? You haven't given Serena Pete anything or Bree or Michelle this whole time. He's very dry. And I find I find this all very interesting. We've clearly seen him weeks ago tell Rachel that he's falling in love with her, but he won't tell any of the other women that. I mean, what do y'all want us to do with this here? Well, which is interesting because I felt like when I was the lead, I was very, I knew

I didn't want to tell anyone I loved them until it was at the very end. Like, there was one person left. But I had conversations with the team about it because a lot of a lot of the producer had worked on similar seasons. So they're like, okay, you know, we saw so-and-so say, I love you to two people. So it's like, where's the balance? Like usually I feel like if they give one hand, they have to give the other. So it leaves the audience wondering.

And right now it's like very apparent. He's like, don't want to say it to them just yet. Well, you said it to Rachel, so and early on a first one-on-one. I don't know. For me, I didn't mind saying I was, like, my top four, I told all of them that I was falling in love with them because I was, you know, like I had feelings for them and I was falling, but I only told one person I was actually in love with them. But like I did, I had love for all of my top four in different ways and it all meant

something different. And for me, I didn't even think about like. what that could mean, you know, in the, when making a TV show, I was very much so in the moment. So if I felt it, I said it because I didn't want to have any regret. If I said it to you, I meant it wholeheartedly. And I didn't want to go back to my room and think, oh, I wish I would have said it. I didn't think about, ooh, this could be bad for the person I choose at the end and I watch it. Because I wanted you to know that every, what you saw was real. And if I chose you, that means I chose you feeling everything and still said, but it's you out of all these

people. I wanted to give myself fully in whatever way that I wanted to with each person. Yeah. I wanted, see, and I was so, I think I was so scarred from my time on The Bachelor where I knew like he had sent it to multiple people. So I was so guarded. But if I was just to go like balls to the walls and say, I would have told Blake like week two, you know this scene in Elfork? He's like, I'm in love and I don't care who knows it. That's how I felt where the producers were. we're like, maybe rain it in a little bit. Like, don't give all of your cards away right away two weeks in and then have whatever. I mean, obviously, we saw how it all went down.

Yeah. But it's such a weird balancing act. It is a weird balancing act. And you can't, and you are kind of like, you know you can't give too much to each person. You have to keep it. It's just part of it. And for their sake, but then also because it's a TV show. But I don't know.

I just think it's weird that he has to. hasn't told any of the other women or we haven't seen it because they're saying it and he's not saying it back he's kissing them usually at this point he they're at least saying it they're not saying they're in love with you they're saying they're falling for you right but do you think it's can you talk it up to the fact that he's never done this before so he doesn't know what it feels like on the other side like he's just so like lasered in on this one woman that he just maybe i don't It makes it even more true. You know, like, it's very obvious.

It's with Rachel. God, one of the hometown, he was dead in the eyes. Oh, I think it was brief. I think it was Breeze. He was dead in the eyes. Like, there was, he was giving her nothing back. She was saying it. She was there.

He was kissing her, but there was nothing behind those eyes. It's all in the eyes, ladies. It truly is. I know the song says, It's all in his kiss. It's not. It's in his eyes. Men can't hide it.

They don't know how to, they don't know how to do that. If you want to know, if he loves you so, I almost said, oh, my God, this Bordeaux. I cannot handle it. If you want to know if he loves you so, is it in his heart? No. It's kiss. That's where it is. Yeah.

They're like, is it in his heart. Oh, no. If you want to know if he loves you so. It's in his eyes. I think it's good. No, I know. I'm telling you, but it's really in his eyes. It's not in his kiss. It's in his eyes. Oh my gosh. So many people are going to write it and be like, no, these are the lyrics.

Stop singing. They're going to be like, stop singing. Yeah. The more though that I feel like for the longest time, I couldn't tell what Matt James's type was. Like, who is he actually into? I mean, obviously we talked about he's very into Rachel. But I think he's into, that's why I think he likes Serena P so much. It's like childlike in a way. Like their interaction. It's just so playful and lighthearted and fun that I think and maybe and also too I don't know if that's like the best thing at this point for like a long lasting relationship but that that's what I'm slowly learning about him is that he gravitates towards like the fun giddy playfulness like we saw with him and Tyler Cameron he always talks about how he loves to play brings up people and

yeah that was his favorite day be surprised so yeah there just doesn't seem to be I can't see him getting engaged at the end of this one to be honest like it's I can't see from where we are right now in the show like more than ever I can't see him jumping to engagement like you watch other seasons is just a different feel if this is your first season watching The Bachelor then you don't know but if you watch other seasons something's missing and I just can't see him like I can't first of all this has been a very long season so thank you for bearing with us and staying with us through this through this long season. But something is off.

I don't know what to... Do you feel it? Something's missing. He's not getting engaged at the end of this. No, I totally would agree with you. I cannot picture him getting down on one knee at the end of this. But that's what made it interesting when he went into the rose ceremony and he's just like, Serena if he went home because she couldn't see an engagement and that's what I'm looking for.

So if you're going to accept this rose, just know that that's what's in mind. Which we all know that's the premise of the show. that's why people come on is to potentially fall in love and get engaged. But that's where I was like, okay, are his words going to add up to his actions or is it going to be like, is it going to get down to the wired in that last day and be like, oh, now I have to actually put my money where my mouth is and maybe I'm not quite ready. So, yeah, I'm the Merrill Street meme. We don't believe you. You know, like I got my hands up to my face. I'm standing up. I'm like, I don't believe you at all at this point.

We've got a couple more weeks. So, well, speaking of what we think is going to happen, let's get into some predictions here, okay? Because, wait, do we have predictions? Let's do it. Who do you think it's top two are? Oh, yes. As of right now, I'm going to say Rachel and Michelle.

Because Serena's gone. Yeah, it's clearly Rachel. Yeah, I'm, we already, we've literally said it. We said he was dead in the eyes talking to Brie. serena p eliminated himself it's got to be michel and uh rachel at this point yeah um yeah well that's it that's the top too i mean other predictions beck and i have already said we don't think he's getting engaged it's just too far of a leap something's lacking here unless unless something we got we got fantasy sweets coming up so unless something boom bam happens in the boom boom room

i'm not seeing it what do you think prediction for this one what do you think makes him break down that we saw in the teaser when Chris comes out. I've said it before. I said he has not shown any emotion with these women. So it has to be something coming from the outside, in my opinion, that makes him break down. Because that's zero to a hundred. And we have not seen him show that type of, you know what I mean, feeling towards them. So something else, I don't know if it's mom, what, he has a brother, maybe he's a brother.

I don't know. Something else makes him break down that way. It's not these women. I have a feeling that it's going to happen in fantasy suites where one girl, because there's always somebody that gets so in their head and they're like, I can't imagine you being with anybody else. I have to leave or is on the edge of being like, I can't do this. I got to see myself out. And that's what I think it might be. I just don't think he likes anybody enough to really break down that much. I didn't even believe the one tier. It wasn't even a tear. It was like wetness that was on his face after Serena P. left. I think the only one that could do it is maybe Rachel. Maybe Rachel. You're right, because we know he likes her. Yeah.

Yeah. Is there anybody reading the, who couldn't read the room this week? I'm going to say Matt. Matt with Serena. Matt with Serena. Matt with Serena. When she's having that conversation after he met her family and she's trying to basically say like she's still kind of hesitant and is unsure and he's like, just trust me.

Just trust me. That's where I was like, Matt, get it together. she's not bad into you. We've all seen the movie. It was that yoga day. I'm giving it to the skydiver professional fell on top of Rachel. Did he not look so young?

When they were sitting in the plane, too, I looked at him and I was like, I don't think he's qualified to be doing this right now. Well, and it shows. I hope he's been benched, it benched, suspended, license revoked, You know, I mean, it's, it was, it's not funny, but it's like, she's given the thumbs up. She's having the time of her life.

She's like, Matt, I'm literally falling for you. And then the next thing they show is this man falling on top of her with his full way. Sorry, this is what you do for a living. How many planes have you jumped out of? How many times have you done this? My goodness, of a show hired you to do your job and you failed. Well, you know, they could only have so many people in quarantine. a colon so they actually asked the chef to come fill in that day have you literally have you seen have

you seen the dark night rises no you you have it no i'm not a big movie watcher i'm not either i am not either but my god becca if there's a trilogy to watch it's i've seen the dark night it's the dark night it's the dark night no it's the dark night begins i think something like something like that and it's the dark night as dark night rises. There's a point. Oh, my gosh. When everybody thinks Batman's dead, I don't want to give too much away.

And Alfred, the one who's been taking care of Batman, ever since his parents were gunned down in the streets. And he says, you trusted me. And I failed you. And I failed you. You trusted me. That was Rachel with the skydine professional.

She trusted you. And you failed. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine, though? Like, I've been skydiving before. Have you really? Oh, and I love it. It's so fun. But the landing, like, I mean, all you're supposed to really do is like stick up your legs and, you know, they'll land nice and smooth. But it's not easy, but I cannot. I mean, there was like, there was not even legs up or anything. Like, that guy was just like straight roller, like, what is it called? Steam rolling down there. He was okay, right? Like, he broke, she broke, he broke, no, she broke his fault. He landed on top of her to be okay. That is awful.

Like this man needs to go back to training. I'm not quite sure. Let's not hire this company again. They should have brought in deed for this one. Bring in the professionals, people. Did they sign disclaimers? I'd be more than happy to represent you. Comment your friend of Ritchellant to everybody.

Okay, somehow I don't know this was, I'm going to go ahead and give this award as the most boring episode I've ever seen since I've been watching The Bachelor. And somehow we were still able to talk about this episode for over 50 minutes. That is what you call professionalism. Well, I also think you sing for about 20 minutes of it, so. I sang. And I'll be back next week for more tunes. everyone please send in your karaoke request to rachel she will try to cover as many as she can i will throw some in there as well i will maybe bring out my tambourine my harmonica whatever you want

we are here to entertain you um yeah i mean i think that is it i'm very proud of us i must say i am very proud that we covered this episode we did honestly though i am looking forward to next week for Women to All, because I feel like, not even for the drama, but just to get into some more conversations about the women, their thoughts on what they, I feel like what they lived through on the show versus what was portrayed. I think it's going to hopefully be one women to all that has a little bit more depth. And from what we can take from the women that we've had on the podcast so far, it doesn't seem like it got crazy catty. It's just hopefully more insightful, if anything else, which is probably something very much needed.

at this time for bachelor's nation. So you guys, stay tuned for next week. We can't wait to have the Wimtall episode. And while we've had the pleasure of speaking to some of the ladies from this season, we're eager to hear from some more who we haven't gotten to speak with yet. Yes, and next week,

we are veering off the pad. I know you guys. You come here. I'll be honest, you don't want to hear Becca and I talk. We've seen your reviews. You want the guest. And we know there was no guess this week. But guess what we have next.

week, not a contestant on the show, not a former lead, not someone, I don't know if you've ever heard on your podcast, whatever it may be where you listen to things. I don't know, you've ever heard from this person. So you're getting a Bachelor Happy Hour special here. Next week, four women tell all to recap. We have a very special, very funny guest that we've really been waiting to have on this podcast for quite some time. And that is the hilarious, the talented Amy Schumer. That's right. She's a huge fan of the show.

She's been keeping up with all the drama this season. We're so, so, so excited to have her here on her take on everything that's gone down this season, but also the women tell all. You guys, I don't know any other podcast that's bringing you guests like Amy Schumer. I'm going to brag on that for a second. Truly, Eka. I cannot wait. I feel like I have to send her some Bordeaux before she hops on.

Do it. Like, I feel like I haven't been this excited to have a guest on since we did listen to your heart when we had some awesome musical talent. So I can't wait to bring her on. I feel like I'm just going to sit there and just like, I probably won't talk. I'll probably just laugh the entire time. So apologies in advance, everyone. But in the meantime, if you have any questions for her, please send them into us. You know where to find us.

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