Bachelor Happy Hour - Beverly’s Truth, Trust Funds, and Name-Dropping

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re diving into all things finance, fights, and more from last night’s episode of “The Bachelor”! We kick off the episode getting into the Finance Date and Serena’s petition for more Hannah Berner in this franchise. Then, we explore the explosive drama between Zoe and Alli Jo, including Serena and Joe’s thoughts on Sarafiena’s dress comment. And, of course, we tackle the major drama between Rose and Carolina: Is it ever a good idea to go to the lead with drama without name-dropping? Plus, we have a special bonus interview with Beverly to learn more about her shocking departure and what’s next for her. Tune in now to hear it all, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And then at the end of this episode, we are going to be having Beverly on for a quick chat because we see her departure in this episode. We don't really get, well, they say. More so we like don't see her departure. Yeah, we don't see her departure. But they say she's sick. So we're going to ask her a little more about what happened because it seemed like her and Grant could have potentially went somewhere considering he picked her as the other person on the one-on-one day. Yeah, I liked her. And I'm definitely looking forward to just checking in on her health and finding out more about what happened with that situation.

Yeah. Okay. So let's let's get into it, shall we? Let's do it. So we have the... You're going to lead? You're going to lead? Sure.

Okay. I was just letting you know. Do you want to lead? No, I want you to lead. You want me to lead? You want me to lead? Oh, okay. You're welcome to take it away.

No, no, no. Okay. I feel like I'm usually the one leading these recaps now. Oh, okay. I got all the detailed notes going on my phone. So do I. Oh, okay. Well, maybe you can lead next week.

I just hope I don't kick it out of order. You know, it's not about leading. You know, this is just a conversation. just a friendly friendly convo So we have the first group date And it's a pretty large group date We find out right away Basically everyone's going on it

Except for Beverly Who is going to have the one-on-one date And Carolina And it's kind of giving Finance Bro grant The whole theme of the date Is money, money education Financial knowledge

They play that finance Bro song. What? You didn't hear that? What song? The song that went viral on TikTok. The one that's like, I'm looking for a man in finance. Do they play that?

Yeah. No way. I totally missed that. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Which is so weird. I feel like I'm usually pretty good about picking up on like music stuff.

Well, the way you said it, I was like, yeah, are you going to give a nod to the fact that it was a song? Because the way you said it, I was like, yeah, that's what we saw. But no, yeah. Oh, that's, I wish I picked up on that. That's fantastic that they used that song. And we have two guest judges, guest hosts for the state, if you will. We have Hannah Burner, who is a comedian and a former Bravo star on Summer House. And then we have Daniel Lubetsky, who is from Shark Tank.

Both fantastic. But, I mean, we have to give the gold star to Hannah Burner on the state. She really took control and learned the class. She hosted it. And she was very, she's very funny. We saw her do stand-up. live oh yeah we did she was great she's funny and i thought she did a really good job i like that she called herself out on like why the fuck am i on a hosting a date about finance when i'm a

comedian like no it was i'm glad she called that out too because when they came out and i was like okay like this dude from shark tank yeah you know makes sense and then i was like but how does hannah burner fit on this date but she really did a good job of being like i don't fit on this date So I'm going to make this date fit for me. And you could tell a lot of the girls were fans of her. Like definitely Bailey who was playing the game in a direction that Hannah Burner would be like, yes, I'm choosing you. A hundred percent.

Bailey was working smarter, not harder on this date. Like she knew who her audience was for these answers. And it wasn't Daniel, you know, it was, it was Hannah. And hence why she ended up winning. But what did you think about Parisa sitting next to Grant? I mean, I feel like that situation, because we've seen a few of these classroom style dates. It's it kind of happens every season. I personally like them.

I think they're fun and a fun dynamic. And every season, it feels like the chair next to the lead is both extremely coveted and also like no one wants it. It's like taboo. I don't know. You said when we were watching it that you wouldn't take that seat. No, I probably wouldn't, but not for any reason of like I think there's anything wrong with taking that seat. I just think there's a sense of nervousness around being like, oh, I'm going to take the seat next to the lead. And then you're kind of putting yourself out there with Grant.

And then it's also like this pressure to make the most of that moment when you're also doing like this group activity. I think it's like a bit of a blessing and a curse sitting in that spot. But I think she was a good person to do it because she has such a goofy person. and they clearly have a lot of fun together that I think she would be able to shine in that moment. Yeah, I like her. She's really growing on me.

She's growing on me too. She definitely said a, I didn't know how to read her in the first episode with the PowerPoint and everything. Yeah. And I just feel like she's continued on the streak of being really goofy and the fact that Grant is totally into it

makes it even more fun to watch. Yeah. What did you think of Zoe on this date? She definitely seemed to struggle. I feel like this is not uncommon. There's usually one or two girls on dates that are like major rule followers when it comes to the rules of the activity and the rules of the game that they're playing. And Bailey was obviously like, look, it's just fun.

Like this is not that serious. He doesn't actually care about if we know what ATM stands for. And Zoe definitely was the opposite of like, you ask a question, I give you an answer. and why aren't you guys giving proper answers? I think what we saw with Zoe is basically the blueprint of how she's going to be the entire season. I don't think it's ever going to change. I don't think Zoe is ever going to be able to feel comfortable on a group date or in a group setting with these girls because they all have the same objective and she's a very competitive person. and just kind of like when we interviewed her

and she seems she seems fairly like analytical and just like goal driven and the goal right now is grant and I think anything that prohibits her to get to her goal it's going to just totally throw her off

so like to me Zoe's always someone that could have a could be on a group date have the most one-on-one time with Grant it go really well and then the night portion Grant doesn't like pull her first and she's completely in her head and I think we're going to see that

the whole season with her. I mean so far it's been kind of every episode. Yeah, I agree. I think she's someone that's going to struggle. It was a little ironic because she was the person on the last group date that was the one bending the rules by like taking him up to the roof and being like oh it's my turn to shoot but like the rules are there are no rules grant let's go have some one-on-one time

and now she's a rule follower and now she's a rule follower but i also think you know she's an academic she's a really smart cookie she's good at school she's a smart cookie she's a smart cookie she is and i think she took this as like a test that she could get an a plus on when she needs to to almost like integrate her mentality from last week about like it's just a group date it's supposed to be fun it's not that serious like we're all playing yeah so yeah i agree she kind of went one extreme to the other do we want to jump straight to her night portion with him because she this is when she kind of breaks down and tells grant like people are picking on her yeah let's jump to the night portion closing out the day you know bailey wins the grant buck she's kind of rewarded

for her creativity. I also think that Hannah Burner should come back and host more dates. I think she's actually like a perfect fit for hosting dates on this show. Yeah. I think she'd be a great host. Of the entire franchise? Yeah. Hannah, you heard of here first.

All right, let's jump to the night portion. So Zoe shares her vulnerability. Shares her vulnerability. I don't think that makes sense. Zoe's vulnerable with Grant about being uncomfortable and out of her element on the group date. Allie Joe basically says This is The Bachelor, not The Zoe Show And I think that

Allie Joe is someone that was really fed up with her last week And is just like still fed up with her Yeah It seems like all the girls seem a little fed up with her And then we hear the comment from Serafina That's the shortest dress I've ever seen Yeah Which you were like

that's that's pretty mean yeah i thought it was pretty mean i i don't know i i don't find that that mean like i feel like if i was just put myself in this situation if i was on um if i was on the group date and i was kind of having a hard time and kind of alienating myself and then like somebody made a comment about my suit you would actually lose your mind you think so maybe I just I don't think like out of all the things you don't like being criticized about your wardrobe

I just think out of all the ways to be criticized like being like that's the shortest dress I ever seen I don't know if that's a a big enough reason to like bring that up to Grant I mean do I think it's a I don't think it was just about the comment I get what you're saying. I'm going to like pull my girl card on this one and say like,

I just think like as a girl it's like a deeper thing than her just like criticizing her wardrobe choice. Sure, sure. Clearly there's a group of girls right now that that I don't want to say they don't like Zoe, but they don't like vibe well with Zoe. Well, yeah. The thing is, is I don't know. I feel like I'm going to be in the minority here. Maybe it's because we just had her on for an interview last week.

But, like, I did feel kind of bad for Zoe. And I feel like she shared how she was feeling to the girls and just said, like, I had a really hard time today and was really vulnerable. And I can kind of understand the girl's frustration because, again, it just seems like none of them are connecting with her. She really centered herself on the last group date. And they're probably putting their guards up of, like, oh, God. like what is what is this going to lead to now like we already had an entire group date surrounding around drama with Zoe and are we now going to be dealing with that again but it's hard to watch someone feel like an outsider and struggle emotionally and then watch the girls kind of turn on her

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I personally, I just feel like Zoe, I agree. Like, I don't think there's any reason and I never think it's a good look to like pick on someone or be mean to someone. But in the women's defense in this episode, Zoe is the competitive one. Yes. She's the one bringing the competitive nature to. the group. So when you do do that, it's probably going to be hard to connect with a group of girls who don't think that way. Right. And I guess from their perspective, it's like Zoe came

in really hot and really competitive from like night one with the t-shirt canon. And now it's almost like, I could see them taking it as like, well, she's just being a sore loser. Like it, the attention wasn't on her. She didn't win this group date. She didn't thrive. And like now she is crying about it. And also Zoe's having a hard time, but has she asked any of the other girls if they're having a hard time? Like are those, like, you know, the conversation goes both ways. Right. It's not always on someone to cater to your needs. Like, you should have the conversation.

If, like, if you're struggling, maybe go up to Serafina and be like, how do you feel like, are you struggling as well? Like, you know, I don't know. Well, that's such a sweetie perspective, Joe. Thank you. Thank you. How did you feel about Zoe telling Grant about it and Grant's response? I'd like Zoe telling Grant just because we need a little bit of something. You know, you need a little bit of drama in the show.

So like, yeah, bring it on. Yeah. I thought Grant handled it really well. I thought so too. I was actually really impressed with his response. And I thought he did a really good job comforting her. He seems as of now, as of now, he seems that he will tackle any issue. head on like immediately uh which is how like some i feel like i would go about it like just

like okay well then like instead of letting it like simmer and drag on for episodes like he really tries to tackle what's going on in the moment um so i like that yeah i like it too i think he does a good job of like not being like ah like leave me out of your shit but then also not getting involved I feel like he handles it in a very like clean, direct way of like, I don't tolerate this, like cut it out kind of thing. And also like making the person that is feeling hurt, comforted. And I think him giving the group date rose to Parisa should be assigned to all the other women of like, let's have a little fun. Yeah. I want to have I want to like it's one thing like we do want to get married and we want to take this serious but I'm not going to be able to get to that level with you if we're not going to have a little bit of fun and like if you're the conversations you're having with Grant are about other women or feeling uncomfortable and you know it's really early yeah so I think good for Pisa she's the one what were they eating they were like shoving

Rice Krispy treats. They were shoving them in their mouth, which was honestly so funny. It was like chubby bunny with Rice Krispies. But I actually, yeah, I liked that she got the group Date Rose. I thought that was a surprising pick, but a telling pick. I also am just like kind of growing to be this fan of Preeza, so I was excited for her. He did address the group and say, I've heard some rumors about people belittling and we have to be kind to each other because Zoe obviously didn't give a name. What do you think, and we can talk about this more later because it kind of comes up again as a theme this episode, what do you think about when girls bring drama to Grant and they don't give a name?

And then he asks for a name and they like, what do you think you do? If you're going to bring drama to the lead, like, do you think you need to just be like, this is who did it? Or do you think you don't give a name? If they ask, do you give the name? Like, it does get kind of confusing. Well, they're half-assing it. It's like if you want to, if you're going to go and do this, then do it all the way. You think?

You think you like come in hot and say like so and so said this to me. Yeah. Or don't bring it to his attention because you know he's going to want to know and he's going to do his best to find out who it is. So it's like either come with all the facts or don't come at all. Yeah. I don't know. Because then on one hand it's like, but what if you want to share the facts? that you're having a really hard time but you don't want it to become like war with the women

in the house then you could say I'm having a really hard time and then if he's asked why I'd be like I'm just not really getting along with all the women but she she directly called out a situation that was targeted towards her right yeah and then didn't want to give the name yeah and I think carolina almost did the same thing I think she ended up saying rose's name yeah it took a while yeah and it's just like well I get I feel like it's one of those things where I feel like they go in wanting to tell Grant what went down and then midway are like reversing and they don't want to do it and then they get caught up and then now I'm in this situation. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely something I feel like I don't know what my stance is on. It kind of depends on the situation. but I did think it was interesting

that she didn't call it out but then I think it was Juliana who actually had a really cute chat with Grant this episode Juliana called her called her out directly she was like okay I think we can stop wasting our breath

like Zoe what did you say to Grant which like I appreciate you know like let's cut the bullshit like you all you all know it was Zoe you all know it went down before you know the night started like let's just be direct here Zoe's response was I could chat

whatever I want to chat about yeah I don't know what I was expecting, but that one, that one caught me off guard. I was like, okay, yeah, Slay. You know, I guess you're right. You can chat with him, whatever you want to chat about. I wonder if there was more conversation that went on after that comment. I feel like there might have been that we didn't see.

Yeah. I don't, I can't imagine that that closed out the conversation. It was like a mic drop. Let's all go to bed. It's hard to watch all of it, to be honest. Because, you know, well, on one hand, I, I always feel bad for the person that feels alone and it's by themselves and feels like they're getting pushed around or whatever the case may be. And then on the other hand, it's like, well, you committed to a social experiment of a show with a group of people who are all going through the same thing.

So it's like you also have to bend a little bit and play the game because we're all here trying to do the same thing. Yeah. And it just, it's always just like, this just never goes well for any of the main participants involved. 100%. And I think it's evident. I don't know if Zoe has experienced this throughout most of her life or if this is strictly on this show. But she's definitely struggling to connect to make friends with the other women. And it might just boil down to her specific personality.

is not the most conducive to this environment. And that is going to make things really hard on her. And it doesn't justify the girls being mean to her in any way. But she might have to, like, put in a little more effort than the average person because it's not going to make it any easier for you if you can't have some friends in the house that, like, you can rely on. And they feel like they can rely on you too. Yeah. So it's, yeah, it's a bit of a messy situation.

But, okay, so the next morning, literally everyone's crying. We've got like six of them sobbing surrounding the house. It just seems a little. I mean, I was like, this is a little ridiculous. It did feel ridiculous for sure. But I will make an assumption here that could be wrong. But watching Alex just like cuddle up on the couch sobbing, it was kind of giving a mix of like genuine stress and like,

you know she seemed upset about the situation she expressed that like they've really been trying to be friends with Zoe and they have not been succeeding so like it's frustrating that they're getting pulled into this drama with her when like there's not much more they can do um which i thought was an interesting piece of insight into what's going on in the house but it was also giving like she seemed really overtired like that kind of like i'm exhausted cry of like you know not trying to invalidate her feelings here but i've been on the show and like those first few weeks. It's a huge adjustment, a new environment, new people, you're high stress, high emotions, and you're really not sleeping. Like, I wanted to be like, all of y'all, you need to go back to bed for three more hours or sneak in a nap today because, you know, emotions are flying wild. I think a little, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, like we need sleep and food to survive. Like, we need a little extra sleep here to kind of get our emotions and check and a little perspective on how dramatic this situation actually is. Who's hierarchy of needs?

What would you just say? Maslow's, isn't that right? Maslow's hierarchy of needs? Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, it's like the pyramid of like what a human needs to survive from base level to like the most important to the least important. Nice.

Nice. Okay. Anyway. Okay, let's move on to Carolina's one-on-one date. We spent a lot of time on that first group date. Yeah. I mean, I would say. Just the date itself, there's not much to really talk about.

They jump off of a building. Yeah, which looked just absolutely horrifying and terrible and scary, but like I would pick that over skydiving or bunch of stuff. They seem to be having fun. Yeah. I would say the part to talk about is the night portion. Yeah. Where she discloses that she was very emotional and she disclosed that she had epilepsy and not everyone that has been in her life has been. kind about or I wouldn't say kind about it but have haven't been able to be supportive

and therefore yeah watching it I was maybe not confused just like aware of how ignorant I am to epilepsy like I really don't know anything about it other than the fact that you're prone to seizures um so I did you know ask around well at my in my head I was just like what kind of a friend would no longer be your friend if you because you have Epilepsy. No, I know. That was what I was wondering too. But it does seem like I talked to someone about it and they were saying like when you're in a relationship with someone with epilepsy, like it is a team effort. Like it does require a lot of, you know, managing triggers and it's more than just like you take medication and like you're good to go. So I could totally understand why maybe she was nervous sharing that with Grant if she has lost people in the past due to her epilepsy. But yeah, like who are these girls and guys? that are being like oh like you have epilepsy like you're on your own girl i'm out like good knowing you like that's what i'm saying it's wild it seems like a very particular disease to be like yeah not this one keep it far away from me yeah no i was like whoa that's that's heavy she said yeah

i guess even things like like um concerts yeah or any any like you know certain venues sporting events or whatnot that may trigger the epilepsy or trigger, you know, for her to have a seizure and then people get fed up with that? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think we will have her on the podcast at some point, hopefully, so we can definitely dive more into her experience with epilepsy, how it affects her on a day-to-day basis. I think there's, like, we don't know much about it, obviously, and she is kind of, it sounds

like the person to share her experience and help us understand it better. Yep. So jumping to the one-on-one that never happened, Beverly, we really liked her. I remember from the headshots, we were like, oh, I feel like she could be up there, or at least I did. You did. She popped for me. And all of a sudden she was gone. No interview, no nothing.

No goodbye. She was out. Well, luckily, we're going to have her on at the end of this episode. So we'll get into why she left. Yeah. So instead, what I'm. I'm assuming was the activity plan for Beverly's one-on-one date, they turned into a group date. This would be challenging because not only did he only take three girls, like it's only two people more than a one-on-one, one person more than two-on-one.

It's the smallest group date I've ever seen. These are already girls that have had a date that week. So it's basically saying like these are the three girls that Grant wants more time with. Like to me, if I'm sitting in that house, I'm like, all right, so those are his three. favorite girls for sure wait we're all that they were all on the group date they were all in the first group date so it was like you get a second date this week it was like a bonus prize and then letia gets that night one-on-one i'd be like all right i'm out well latia yeah i mean after watching this episode latia looks like she is leading the pack i don't know if we've ever been so bang on

with a headshot prediction as we were with letia yeah truly guys like if you're listening like we did not know when we do the headshots. Like we don't know anything. So like the fact that it's going this well, I mean, I've impressed myself. Lisa Vanderpumps on the date. I know. Our second Bravo cameo, eh? I'm kind of surprised. So on this date, we have Latia, Serafina, and Dina. He seems to have great connections with all of them. It was a nice date to be able to kind of see his relationships unfolding with these three girls because they just, you kind of got more time. And then the night portion with Latia was at City Hall, which I was originally like, City Hall, like what? But it was gorgeous. And I like that she said the way she teed up the

conversation with him of, I want to hear more about your family life. I've heard a little bit, but I want to hear it from you. It just felt kind of very honest and like a warm way to open the floor for him to share his family dynamic in a safe space. Yeah, it feels like they're taking steps forward. Yes. And their relationship, they're having like real conversations. about their past, their families, and that's usually like the first sign of like, okay, this is becoming a serious relationship out of the group. Yeah, my assumption would be he's not opening up

and diving into his family history in detail with every single woman there. So to see him do that to the extent that he did and then, you know, was so engaged and asking her meaningful questions about her family as well, they got to FaceTime her mom which I mean having been there like that just means everything to her I can only imagine like I would literally have killed for FaceTime with my mom while I was on the show so I thought that that was also very telling um yeah I think that I think this relationship is going really far if not all the way I really really love her and I think that they are a great fit from what we've seen so far we got the string quartet they do a little dancing yeah no I agree like there's nothing like yeah yeah Yeah, like I, to me right now, if I were to say like who he has the strongest connection with or who he likes the most, it's going to be Latia. Yeah, I think so too.

And I think the fact that he had a group date with her, chose her for this mini group date and then also chose her for the one-on-one is a sign that he thinks she could be the one also. A thousand percent. And then we, um, we go back to the house. Grant and so Carolina is now yeah like she she's spiraling she's spiraling and she's kind of making so far everything about her she does say we see well um Latia's on her date she says I kind of wish that I didn't even have that one-on-one date yeah which is I actually can understand what she's saying as someone who had an early one-on-one on the season I was on, it does make it harder in ways, but you just don't say, like it was just a tone-deaf

comment. You just don't say that to girls who have not yet had a one-on-one day. And like, at the end of the day, you're never going to sacrifice your one-on-one day, even though it's made it more challenging for you emotionally. Or at least I wouldn't. I don't think most people would. I just hate when people go on this show and act like they don't understand. why the lead is also into other people. Like, what show do you think you're fucking on? Like, it's, of course, of course, like, you have to go on the bachelor or bachelorette comfortable with the person that you may fall in love with is also falling in love and talking to other people.

That is what the show is. If the show was just about a one-on-one relationship, then, okay, then you could be upset. But it's like, you're not the only one here. Yeah. And on top of it, like, I get, I get it more when it's like there's four left and you're like, holy fuck, I might actually get engaged to this person. Yes. And this is really, but when you are two weeks in, it just, to me, it's like, do you not, do you not know what show you're on? Yeah.

It's just kind of an indicator that this might not be the right environment for her. It's just, you know, it is challenging and it's not right for everyone. And I can see that she's really struggling. And this is not the first time we've seen that. Should we dive into the Her and Rose situation? I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics.

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Keep that shit private. it so anyway they compare notes rose says to carolina that grant told her when grant was dancing with carolina he was actually thinking of rose he was thinking of her now in carolina's defense if i heard that and i'm her that that i understand that she's i'm freaking out too yeah because that is kind of like well what the fuck well i'm like okay so you don't like me yeah you like me definitely less than rose and even if you do like me you've disrespected me by saying that to someone else here like I'm like do I even want to be with you if you're running your mouse saying shit like that to other girls so in in that aspect I do feel for carolina because that would be a hard that that

is a hard pill to swallow yeah I'm kind of with her on this one I'm kind of with her I don't think you should you should compare notes but you know they did what they did and I don't blame her for being really upset by what she heard you know I would be really upset too so she tells grant yeah what do you think of the conversation i mean yeah i feel like like we were talking about earlier when you come with that that kind of information that's about someone else like don't sugarcoat it just say who it is because now he's guessing it was actually pretty funny how he just guessed it was bailey right away i was like okay like i'm sorry to say this but bailey you're going home tonight like he he said bailey first and like with

confidence that it was going to be her i was like whoa yeah um and i'm actually sad that she left because i liked her i know but i do think his concern with bailey um based on his you know conversation with her on the group date was she was maybe just a little bit too silly he was looking for something a little more serious yeah um but yeah it it was just kind of one of those things okay just just say it because you know he's going to find out and then he finds out it's rose then he calls out rose and rose admits that she said it yeah she said i i Like, she's not deny it. She definitely said that to Carolina.

She says to Grant, I thought that was something I heard you say. Yeah. Which, oh, her response just maybe be like, oh, you're not coming in very hot here with a like, you did say this to me, this time, this place. So it's like, how sure were you that he said that to you, Rose? I don't know. I feel, I mean, listen. I feel bad for her too. Watching it, I feel bad for her because I'm just.

like and she was she's been spiraling she's been having a hard time I think she handled the conversation with Grant as best she could you know like she apologized she owned her mistake

like there's not much else you can do in that situation my biggest question around all of it is if Grant did say that to Rose why would Rose say it to Carolina because A it's going to to make her feel bad.

Yeah. And B, it's... Well, because, yeah, that's not just like a sweet thing he said to her. That's something like he blatantly said against Carolina. And also it's private... It's also private information for you to kind of know that you're sitting pretty high up there with the lead. If he's saying that to you.

Yeah. So why are you even giving this information out? Because this is, this information privately is beneficial to you. And then if you give it out, all that's going. to do is hurt your chances with the league. 100%. She shouldn't have said it. I feel like I feel like she was spiraling and I would like to see that conversation. Well, that's my thing. Show us that conversation. Roll the tape. What did he say? Did he say it or did he say

some version of it or did he say something that could have been taken differently? Like, where's the miscommunication? Because the Carolina and Rose conversation, I'm going to assume happened off camera and Mike, right? Yeah, but that I would like to see that one too. The Rose and obviously I like to see everything. Rose and Grant's conversation is miced on camera. It was on a date. So like someone rolled the tape back and get me a clip and aired it tell all because we can actually fact check this and find out, find out what was really said, you know, and I care.

I want to know. I mean, he denied it. He denied it with confidence. Yeah. He didn't even know who she was talking about, meaning like he wasn't even like, oh, I said something along those lines to Rose. I know where this is going. Yeah.

But yeah, I want to know if he said it. I want to know more about the comparing notes conversation. Yeah, and then let's really quick just touch on the girls that went home. Yeah, well, the girls were really pissed. It sounds like I feel like we're seeing like really condensed versions of a lot of the drama of the season. Obviously for timing, that's how it has to go. But the girls were like, so many of the girls were like cut into my time tonight.

So it must have gone on for a lot longer than what we saw in terms of like people were like Carolinas talked to him like 10 times. Bailey went home I don't know why he sent her home Bailey went home Chloe Chloe went home I know I love her

I feel like she's just like so cool So elegant I want to see her in Paradise for sure Yeah she I liked her too She seemed very down to earth I think like she could have a chance Of finding love for sure Yeah she's definitely one of those people

Where she was giving interviews It was she was very like captivating Very natural on camera Who else? Let's see. Let me pull up our list. We said buy to Beverly, obviously. Bailey, Chloe and Ali Joe. Allie Joe is, I think we're going to see her in paradise because she's got a real feisty personality. And yeah, we didn't get to see a lot of her connection with Grant really at all. I think Ellie Joe's issue was there probably just wasn't really a strong connection with her and the lead. And when when you, When you're in that situation, it's kind of, what else am I supposed to do? Yeah. And she probably just became involved in the drama. I was like, well, let's give me something to do.

Yeah, I don't really see it with her and Grant, if I'm being honest. And I see it more with Zoe and Grant. Okay, so let's bring in Beverly, because I actually want to find out what happened with her. Okay, let's do it. Beverly welcome to bachelor happy hour how are you I'm good how are you guys thanks for having me on of course good thanks for coming on so let's just dive right into the elephant in the room you were there and then you were gone yeah because I mean you you get an early one-on-one um so it must have been serious for you not to be able to go on that yeah um so many emotions um so as you guys

saw the date card came and they said, whoever's name is on this day card, you're going on the one-on-one. So it was a group date of 12, and then the last two weren't going on a one-on-one. And Parisa and I, we were close in the house. She's sitting next to me. She's like, you're getting the one-on-one. You're getting the one-on-one. I'm like, there's no chance. Like, there's no way. And they're reading name by name, by name, by name. And mine's not being called. And it gets to the last name. And I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I really might be getting the one-on-one. And lo and behold, it was me and Carolina. And I was honestly so happy because I'm very close with my family. And I am very emotional. And I wasn't on the show, which is

strange. But for some reason, that day, I woke up so sad, missing home, missing my mom, my dad. And so getting the one-on-one kind of like solidified, like, okay, I'm here. And it's for a good reason. and Grant sees and feels what I'm seeing and feeling. And it was really reassuring and nice. Like you said, Joe, getting a one-on-one so early on, it's like kind of puts a target on your back. And it's like, oh, my God, like, you know, she might, she might, him and her and Grant probably have a really good connection

to get it so early on. So I was honored. Okay. So, okay. So then what happened? Yeah. Yeah, because all we see were like, wait a minute. And then they're like, okay, Beverly's gone.

She's sick. Like, you know, did you have the flu? Like, what went down? Yeah. No, I wish I had the flu. So the girls leave. And I honestly was so excited because I'm like, we're going to have the whole day to ourselves.

I'm going to get to eat, sleep, just relax, no drama. And I take a nap and I wake up. My stomach's hurting. I'm like, okay, maybe she's going to go to the bathroom or like the food didn't sit well. And I start throwing up. I'm like, okay. maybe I just need to get it out, whatever. So my stomach is continuing to hurt.

I'm like an excruciating pain. I'm continuing to throw up. It's like a mess. This goes on for 12 hours. At this point, are you thinking like I have food poisoning? So I have anxiety and like diagnosed and everything. And sometimes my panic attacks like cause me to puke. But like I didn't feel anxious.

If anything, I was like, I'm living life. I'm getting a one-on-one. I'm in the house alone. Like, I have all this time. So I knew something was not right. I was like, I know my body. I'm listening to my body. Something is not okay.

So I wasn't sure if it was food poisoning. I thought maybe. And my whole stomach was hurting. So it's not like one side was hurting. I didn't think it was like anything serious. I was like, okay, maybe I'm just in really bad stomach pain. And at this point, because I had gone so long throwing up, I was like, this is probably why my stomach's hurting even more because now I have nothing in my tummy. So they end up taking me to the hospital because I was not okay.

They gave me IV. I was there for three hours. They gave me morphine. The pain finally went away. But I was like, what is wrong with me? So after three hours of being in the ER, the doctor came in and he's like, you have appendicitis and you're going to need emergency surgery. Oh, my God. Oh. Yeah. Well, I figured, I know, they didn't obviously say what it was on the show, but we assumed it must have been something really severe because had it just been, you know, food poisoning or a stomach flu or something, you know, they would have maybe taken you and then brought you back and just for it to be like, you're gone for good. Right. Yeah. I was like, what happened? Yeah. And I, again, at that point, like still was not really processing. Like, again, I am a cry or I am emotional. Did not cry one time. I was like, okay, like my family is in here. My friends are here.

You're like I'm about to have major surgery on an organ. I already in 2018 got my gallbladder removed. Now my appendix is being removed. I'm like losing organs left and right. I'm like, what is going? And where do you where do you live? I live in New York. Okay.

And then you're like, basically you're in California. Thousands. Right, right. Yeah. You're like you want to take anything else out while we're at it? Right. Like what else? I told the doctor, I'm like if you want to cut a little something while you're down there,

I give you full permission. But, yeah, I called my parents, obviously. My dad was like, get on the next flight. Like, have surgery here. I'm like, I can't. Like, my appendix can explode mid flight. Like, it was not safe for me to fly. So, yeah, I was really, really sad.

Honestly, it took me, like, a month and a half to, like, recover emotionally. Physically, obviously I was, you know, okay. But emotionally, I was not, you know. I left with, like, the what. and like obviously like we were building a connection he saw and felt like exactly what I was seeing and feeling and I know like they didn't show a lot of our moments but like we did have a lot of cute little moments. No one, they never showed his kissing like we kiss, you know, so like not the first night.

I thought I was going home the first night because I was one of the only girls that didn't get a kiss. I'm like, oh my God. But yeah, I was really sad, really, really bummed out. And I didn't get to take goodbye to him. I didn't get to tell him what happened. And so I was like, I hope he didn't think that, like, I left just because, you know. No, I'm sure they updated him like, hey, your girl Beverly's in emergency surgery.

She's not coming back. How long was the recovery process before you were able to fly home? Oh, so surgery was on a Wednesday. I got sick on a Tuesday. Surgery was Wednesday. My mom had a fly in to pick me up on Thursday. And then I went home Friday. So I literally like so quick.

Yeah. Was there any talks about potential? like having the surgery and then going back on like going back on the show or is like recovery time like you need to like take it easy for months um i wanted to stay on but i think it was best for me to just go home and recover also because as you know like eventually they start flying places so it wasn't safe or smart for me to like fly as i'm recovering from a surgery and as you guys know like you've been on the show it's long days late nights and like i was sad about leaving but once i got home and everything, like, settled in.

I was like, honestly, the best decision was for me to come home and recover because, like, it was a lot. Like, I took so much, so many things with me. Like, I was not going to be okay flying with all those luggagees. And it was just, it was better for me to come home. No, 100%. I can't imagine, like, having surgery and then you're flying, like, 13, 14-hour flights. You're on a time change.

Filming, like, I can, like, as you know, is really hard on your body already when you're healthy and then God forbid you get like an infection or something when you're in a different country like I can totally understand just being like mom take me home yeah yeah my mom came and she was really sweet my dad was like so sad but you know everything happens for a reason I was like what are the odds that my appendix will act up the day like days before I get first of all on the show and then days before I get a one on one like what are the odds I know this is a first for sure it's horrible Horrible experience for you.

I was like, Grant is not your person, okay? The universe is just trying to redirect you. And this makes sense too that we don't really see much because you have a great personality and Grant clearly likes you from the beginning. And like we don't see much of you, but now this all kind of like, yeah. Makes sense. I know. I'm sad because I'm like America didn't get to really see me.

Like I'm silly and funny and goofy and like I obviously have a serious side to me as well. But like, yeah, I was. I was looking forward to the one-on-one because I also, again, like I said, I deal with anxiety and like I was obviously going to open up to grant about that, which is a really huge part of my life. And like, I wanted to see like what his reaction was if it was something that he was able to like handle. And so I was excited to finally get to like open up more and for us to talk. And you know on and one-on-one, that's where you like really, really connect. And, you know, so it was really sad that we didn't get that moment. But you think, speaking of everything happens

for a reason. Do you think that you would be interested in doing Paradise if they asked you to? Because I feel like we, you know, didn't get to see much of you. But obviously there was a lot there. And you kind of got jipped from your experience due to your health issues. Yeah, a thousand percent. Only because I feel like if I would have made it further, I probably wouldn't have considered paradise. But because I like didn't make it that far, yes, because I do want to get married. Like that is, I'm 30 years old. I'm ready for kids and family. I've always been. been like a relationship type of girl and so that was like my intention going on the show so yeah and obviously on paradise there's more options you know you you get to kind of like date around so yeah I would

definitely be interested okay well figures cross for you we would love to see you there I mean we don't get to make that decision whatsoever but you know if they're listening and yeah we would love to see you yeah obviously like I am a fan of the show so like watching paradise I see like how successful it is obviously like the two of you we're biased you know Yeah, I know. I love Paradise, too. I feel like it's a different vibe. Like, it's more chill.

Like, I mean, from what I've seen. It is. You know, and everyone's just like mingling and you have options. It's not like as serious, but it is. So it's a different dynamic. And like, I'm excited if I get the chance to go on. I have a good feeling. I think, I don't think this is the last we're going to be seeing of you.

But also, I have no idea. So, Beverly, thank you so much for taking the time out of your day and coming on That's a happy hour. Yeah. Thank you guys for having me. I hope you get to see me again. Absolutely. And to all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuning in and make sure you

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