Bachelor Happy Hour - Blake Moynes: Relationship Updates and Life on the Road — Part 2 | Happy Hour

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” Blake and Rachel are back, getting real about life on the road for SOSA. Blake has recently opened up on his socials about how tough life can be in this line of work, so we’re digging in deeper. He tells us all about his most recent relationship, why it ended, and how Blake’s career plays a massive role in how he navigates connections. He also tells us how being away for so long has impacted his friendships and how he grapples with that. Tune in now and make sure to subscribe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Rachel and this is part two with Blake Moynes so let's get into it. Going into the next one, you see my interactions in front of incredible wildlife and crazy once-in-a-lifetime moments but what you don't see is that I'm physically there but mentally somewhere else, documenting the moment ahead of actually experiencing it. Perfect example like the last week that I was here. We worked two different instances with Cheetah relocating two china out of a boma the other one was doing a

TB check on it to make sure that we could move it out of the the boma and it was getting a proper vet check done and not once did I even have the moment to spend five seconds admiring that animal I think people think that I'm there like this is no it's like I'm this you got this shot this this this we got back here and I'm like

I don't I didn't look at the cheetah one time. I'm not there admiring it. Like I'm on some luxury tourism thing. If I don't deliver the things I need to deliver through brand things and this for the organization to get things out, then I do the disservice is the reason that I'm there and what my value is. So I never get to take that in. It's making sure I'm delivering for the org and delivering for the animal at the end of the day. Yeah. And it's funny because even in this post that you made, I saw so many pictures that I took of you, which is funny because I think even like it's funny because a lot of the pictures that you use that I gave you were ones of you like kind of not being so happy or kind of

staring off into space and in those moments of like making sure that me and the group is having the best time. But you are just thinking about what's next and thinking about what again you have to deliver. And it was actually very jarring to me to see those people. post and knowing that I took those in a moment where I was so happy and I was like having this once in a lifetime experience, but you on the other end, having so much on your mind, it was really hard for me to see because I know you. I think it's just a lot to juggle. Right?

Like there's the whole thing happening that's very dynamic and so hard to, like, you're working with fucking wild animals and these scenarios that are just like impossible to anticipate things. you have team and you know you want to make sure everyone's also fine and good and you're good and this is good and the things are charging this and this there's just so much that like there's no sense of you i told you i didn't shower i haven't shower for two days until right before them because i literally have i don't think about myself in any way and it was a cold shower yeah i was like oh i literally was like was it relaxing he's like it was cold Just like stepping in and out of it.

Meanwhile, he made sure that my shower today was amazing and hot in the other building. So you think about everyone else before you. And it is hard for me to look at these posts and see that. And for me, I am one of, I would like to think you're good friends to see you in this state, to know that it's been just such a hard year for you. Keeping SOSAL alive. there's two pieces to this that make it extremely challenging and why it's not so simple to quit

and why it just feels you have to figure it out is because the decision that you're making to make a business decision is not about the money you're putting in your pocket only because once you've done enough of it and you realize the good that you can do and the stories you're trying to tell and the teams are bringing in the resources

of all the things we brought in. I've talked about all the things we brought in to Kar and her team over the next month. It's going to be massive for her. The decision isn't just a business decision that you're making because when you're doing it for something greater than you and you're doing it for rhinos and you're thinking about those and the cheetah and this, you're not doing it to make a doll or you're doing it to save them. We've been in the red for three years. There is no, my brother is working basically full time for me outside of

being a pilot, I've taken zero for the last three years. I have two people that are on salary. The rest, if we don't, our models built on sustaining nonprofit organizations. If we don't sustain nonprofits, so it's essentially like, if we don't keep them going, while it's trying to sustain ourselves, while trying to sell a product that isn't a product, you're selling it, you, let's say wildlife. It's not something people need. It's not something that's in front of people's faces.

It's not something that they can compete with all the politics and the terrible economy and the issues are happening in America. And we're trying to ask people to try and care about animals. And so it's not something that people need. We're trying to get people to care about something that are mostly ignorant or not educated about. And so trying to sustain that for ourselves and the nonprofits and the animals, there's not enough money in conservation to go around. No one cares, no one really needs it, and there's too many mouths to feed, whether it be the animals, the orgs and ourselves. Well, obviously, we're going to go. Okay, last one I want to go into his relationship.

So let's before that talk about what it's like for you when you have Greg and Justin and me on these trips, having your friends here showing up who care for you. What is that like? having like because it's so funny and I think I and we always talk about this story but when I first met you I hated you because you were so annoying to me because I drink out of a plastic straw and you were like you know the sea turtles and I was like I didn't even put it it came to me in this drink and I was so annoyed at you which is so funny that that led to me going on the first sea turtle trip but also like this friendship that we have built where you have had me completely buy into what you are doing.

And you have people like Greg. I mean, there's so many bachelor people that are able to come on these trips and help you. But what is that like having me and so many people that believe in you and what you're doing? Yeah. I mean, I think, yeah, I've been fortunate. I think there's some, like, core people. You know, the first time I ever did it, did something was Zach and Noah. came out to a shark team.

I didn't know that. It was right after Noah. Noah? Who's? Noah? Really? I didn't know that. Well, I know you and Zach.

Yeah. And Zach and I are actually, I don't, people don't know this, but Zach and I are running our first program this, this year in Alaska where we're blending our mental health, his mental health programs with ours. Conservation is healing people. People are healing conservation. We're doing our first co-jointed program together, which is a, you know, which is a good huge. So he's always believed. He's been out with me a lot. I think it, as long as you're willing

to pull the trigger, which didn't take you actually very much, didn't take me much energy to get you out to sea turtles. With the sea turtles is Florida and I'm a Floridian. So I think that's where it kind of all stemmed where it was so easy because we also went to my parents' house on that trip and you got to meet my dad and we like really bonded on that trip by you meeting my family and we, doing that. But like me being here and like me like you know I believe in everything you do.

That has to mean a lot to you because you're sacrificing so much. Yeah. I mean I think there's certain people that can one, opportunity can be cool but two, I think there's trust that goes into these types of things. Now, this one is bigger

than the others. There's a lot more riding on this one, particularly. literally for the rhinos that but a lot of investment where and I think this like the thing that we have here if it's delivered properly it could just yeah we don't have to go into that one yeah but I think twofold one someone who understands the shit that I'm kind of going through is helpful to an understanding of what we're trying to do here from the production element of things right and there's someone who gets But anyways. Talk about relationships. But storytelling, all that stuff. Let's talk about, okay, so what is it like having people like Greg and Justin who jump on to these trips that believe in the Sosa? Talk about just that.

Well, to be honest with, I don't think they fucking knew a goddamn thing before they got there. They didn't. I mean, I can say, hey, come to go out. You're going to bring me. Sure. Right? They don't, they didn't know until they got there. Then when they got there, were they.

believe and and like good for you like the shit that you're doing here and you know donating money and doing all these things like they did extra things they didn't have to do because they saw the impact of the program and then it resonates and it's like you know and just like when are we going next one breaks when are we going on next one they said that yeah I mean that's this you know what I mean I think the thing is you just got to pull the trigger I think there's a natural bridge or maybe there's a comfortability thing there you know and when you see it then it's easy to get behind. And so, yeah, I mean, those, if I could have people out like you and backing me, you're in a

continuous basis, massive. It's just hard to always make it feasible to do and pull those things off. And I think there's very particular people that will be able to do a project like this. I don't know who else could help support this type of project where there's a trust element there that could understand. Obviously. Tell listeners. Yeah, perfect for sure.

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So when we saw each other, it was catching up from there until the present. And I think a big thing that I do see online about you and that you touched on a little bit in your post is relationships. Because I'll be so honest and I want to like give the listeners like their point of view. You went on The Bachelor and you got engaged. and now you're sitting here being like, I don't have time, right? What is it like now and what is your view on relationships since you've been engaged? And since you've been in that place where you could actually really meet someone? Is the question like what's the view on how hopeless or how much hope I have?

Like what is the question? Let's talk about relationships. Because I think that's a big question. question because you were on the bachelorette you got engaged you were ready for that but now you're in a place where it's really difficult for you to have a relationship so let's talk on how difficult it can be when you're in these situations where you're traveling for months at a time how hard is it to have a relationship it's been extremely challenging to prioritize anything else imagine trying to show up for somebody

and this is a really interesting scenario last summer met somebody back home it's great there's no reason yeah in Toronto there's no reason why I would have not been able to but when you're getting texted it's taking you a really long time to text back

because you have all these other things going on and it's not that I don't want to but if I don't have the money the time to show up and I'm stressed and you see me move in the way I move. I'm not present with you the way I could be. I'm not present with anyone here that I could be.

My mind is elsewhere. And so if I'm meeting people that I actually do like, and that's, it kills me, and that's, I've had these scenarios. So it bugs me here. Where imagine showing up someone you actually really like. And you can tell that they're kind of disappointed. And they're like, this isn't my normal self. Because when I have time and things are chill

and if I'm working more of a normal job, the way that I show up is fucking tenfold what I am right now. And so when you're showing up as like a fucking four to ten when you know you could be a ten and a ten and how you deliver and show up for someone that deserves it and how you would want to treat your person, it's so challenging to...

So why I'm entertaining? So what you're saying is that the position you're in right now, you feel like you're unable to give the time and energy to a woman. To at least 95% of the population of women that I've met. I think there's a, in this exact moment, I think there's maybe a 5% that would understand or at least be in a similar position where they're trying to do something that,

they're independent, but they're chasing this thing. So let's talk about the point you're at now, which has changed since paradise. You are in a completely different position. What kind of a relationship and what are you looking for now currently since everything has changed since people have last seen you in paradise?

Yeah, I think the thing that would work would, one, I think someone that's aligned in this space. You want someone in... Would be at least understanding. Because if they're not understanding, then we're screwed. Right? because it's not for the money.

Understanding what? If understanding why I'm doing this because it's not for the money. And so, wait. That's a great way to say. And you're not even bringing in money and you're doing, like, what are you doing

and like how is this even, how are you gonna, how are we going to start a family, blah, blah, it's like I really confident that we'll get there. Right now, it's just not the thing that I'm just saying. I think it's hard for people

to understand that. You know, we've talked about these things before where it's like, I'm so obsessed with animals that people are like, this guy's kind of weird. It kind of is. It's kind of weird. Right? Or it's like, it's not for everybody. Yeah. And so not everyone's going to understand me. And so I think that is one challenging aspect. I'm saying there's very few people in the world that you will run across guy or girl that will understand and get what you're talking about. Are you able to talk about your last relationship and what happened in that and why it didn't work out because of this? Yeah, I mean, the last, I mean, the last, I mean, I'll call it. I think it was a, in between.

No, you were in a relationship. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

So a year and a half ago, you were seeing someone. Yeah. and a half ago seeing somebody. Amazing. We loved her. Yes. I mean, you said that was an idiot. Correct.

Stand by that. Yeah. And totally fair. And I think that's one of the hardest hitting things, is that I also know that. That you're an idiot. And that's what makes it challenging. But the thing also is that we're having honest conversations. She was incredible.

Got along. in every single way. You met someone that matched you, which is difficult. Match me personality-wise. We just hit it off. In a way, I didn't think I was really going to. It was a really one-off scenario. She surprised you.

Yeah. Yeah, and I was actually on my way to South Africa. I landed in New York. We met up for a date. I remember I just gave her a date in a time and a DM, and we met up, and then it popped off from there. And it was, yeah, it was a back and forth

an interesting situation, but she was, yeah, there's very particular moments where I remember feeling very, like this, I think this could be, this could work. She could truly work. Just in a way that, but it was on her, very loving, very nurturing, very, she was very wholesome.

You could tell that her energy, the way in which she presented herself was, just always felt very from the, the way I would say it, very from the heart. And that it was always, I don't know, I just remember feeling very, always, she was so genuinely wanting.

And I knew that she was very, very deserving. And I think the challenge, And if she was always emotional, she always wore her in her sleeve. And I think she's been fucked over a lot. I think that she hasn't. She had some trust issues. Trust issues. And I think when she would break down those barriers and bring down those walls,

which would take some time, which took us a lot of time to kind of get there as first month. We're going back and forth for a while until I got back from South Africa. So you're having these conversations while you're away, which is already difficult. But it was, I think, the thing that allowed a lot of confidence when we got back and we started flying to see each other. It was, it just everything made a lot of sense. We got along so, so well through everything.

Yeah, and it just fucking made sense in person. And, you know, one thing is from the phone, but then it started making sense in person. And then the connection physically was there with just like little things and like the little, I'm going to do that. Yeah, but all the little things, but like those are things I hadn't had for since Katie, because it was two years before then. So you hadn't experienced these feelings since Katie is the bigger. No, I just like the things that like you're like, oh my, I'm in a relationship. Again, these are little things that you do only when you're in a relationship.

And explain why maybe it didn't work all. Yeah, I mean, there's a combination of things obviously that we can't get into. But when it come when it came down to it, we would have periods of time to kind of. because she was away and she was doing her own shows and I had my own things going on with a combination of different shows of things that were happening at that time. It was an interesting, Sarah, I think I had a respect for her when I was even, you know, dating her. I never even, we hung out all time and would fly to see each other and continuously. And it was just wasn't, I think there was something.

something about that that she really respected that I didn't even give a fuck about any of that stuff. And we kept it hush, hush, and we moved through the city. I mean, we're out in the city a lot in New York and hanging out a ton. And some of the things, there were some photos that came out and stuff like that. But yeah, it just, it just wasn't that. We just got along. We felt like best friends while we were doing our thing. And, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I think this is the unfortunate thing is that I didn't. necessarily foster that the way I could have in the time and I think timing was terrible. Otherwise, I maybe would have managed that a little bit differently. But I think schedules, timing, the things I was getting into and we had a lot of serious conversations about, you know, big picture and, you know, what that would look like. Or ideally this person would, she would want to live and, you know, financial stuff. We went into a lot of things. And there's a lot of things we've got into.

I'm financial. I'm like, fuck. Okay, well, that number is going to be really challenging for me to meet probably in the next at least three years. And if I can't, like, what do, if I can't be around the way that you would like me to, and it's going to be challenged for me to meet that, I'm not going to necessarily be the type of lifestyle that maybe you would hope and expect and want and maybe deserve. And I can't deliver that.

are the things that start to build over time even though it was such a great fucking scenario where it's like is I think that's why the the break on it sucked and I remember it very like it was an emotional breakup because it wasn't a thing based on personality and us getting along it was like do those things make up compatibility wise for like an actual partnership based on things that you're going to need and based on where I am and what the fuck I do and kind of your vibe and and your lifestyle is very different for mine. So it wasn't a me and you heart to mind issue where we weren't compatible. That wasn't the thing. I think it was a lifestyle and me prioritizing the situation that I was in at the time because I don't really have another choice.

And I just don't know if there was a full understanding there. But I think that's, I think the challenge piece. I think it was a time sensitive thing. I think if it was snipped another five years in terms of there could have been more things that alleviate the compatibility issues where maybe I'm much more head by that point and some of those things aren't even a thing anymore and I think there's a lot of stuff but I put a lot of it on myself because I remember neglecting a lot and I wasn't as present and as I didn't show up the way that I should have wanted to, and that's the challenge. I could want to do it.

I was like, fuck, like, how do I, got to choose right now. And when I was choosing, I was choosing something else, not because she wasn't fucking incredible. But it's like, when you have no money, what the fuck do I do? Especially if I can't deliver to be the person that she wants, needs it and her partner.

And that's what's the stuff. I'm like, fuck, like, so that, those are the hardest ones. Because when it's something else where it's like you're bickering, you're fighting and shit. It's like, okay, whatever, fuck. Like, it's not going to work. But it was never that.

So there was nothing about your guys' relationship that didn't work beyond the fact that you just have this lifestyle that is, like, no one can really understand. Like, I can't imagine. If I was the earlier version where I had a lot of time and I could like fucking really dedicate, there's not a question. There's not a question. There's not a question I wouldn't be in a relationship right now, right time. Because I it's always been a relationship with a whole fucking 20s everything but it's just there's decisions that have been made three years from now ago to now that don't allow me to be to have the time the energy to give to somebody Do you regret anything in that?

Looking back now because that was your last relationship I don't necessarily regret the decision because I know the amount of impact of fucking we're making right now from that component. And so I think it's a... Like bigger picture for her so-sou. Like you couldn't take back the time that you wanted to give her in a way?

I think it truly comes down to time. And I think it truly comes down to the moments that we were both in. And she also had a lot going on, but not to the same degree of being away and needing to, you know, fighting for your life to sustain your life, per se. shouldn't have that problem which time issues and time zone issues but no I mean I I always I I want to run into her again I know I would love to run into her again yes

just to like because when you have when you felt a really good friendship and you cut it since then you know you'd be excited to see them again especially when it didn't end off on anything bad at all you know which is so funny because I I just had that situation. You were in the car and you're like, well, if it didn't work out, it's just not supposed to work out. With who?

The relationship I told you in the car. Oh, yeah, but that's... No, and let it be on the record that every single time I bring a man to your desk, you're like... Not good, no. No. No.

Have you ever liked anyone I've ever brought you? No, but you don't have a good picker. That's false. So this is a podcast about video games. Kind of. It's also about friendship. Definitely. And chaos.

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agree with me. What is wrong with the men that I choose, in your opinion? I don't know. It's like you like it to be fucking challenging and fucking like, it's just like why. There's no grounded, like fucking honest, just like this is what they do. Like this. They know themselves. No, I feel like people that don't know who they are yet.

and they're still figuring themselves out. And that's a challenge on top of the, on everything else. I love a challenge. What can I say? Well, I mean, you're choosing the fucking wrong ones. Don't we know? Doesn't the world know that that is the truth? Yeah, so maybe getting out her and doing a little bit of a reset on project, come back. What do you think I, like, ideally, like should look for? because we talk about this

who do I think you need or what are the qualities or characters? Yeah because I think I actually do as much as I want to fight you think that there is a general consensus that I do not pick the best man. No you don't. Yeah. So what do you think?

Because you're one of my best guy friends. What do you think I should look for going forward? What I think you need is what I don't I know you're not interested in. That's what sucks. But I think, I just think you need, you just, I think, choose people who don't know who they are yet. It's a good way to put it in.

They're kind of usually like, artsy, kind of like this. They're kind of just like, they're kind of like artsy. Like, yeah, I don't know. They're kind of, they're just, they're uniquely different in ways. But I think that, I just think you need someone more grounded and understands who they are. And are more of a rock. because I agree

but I know that's not I know that's not interesting enough to you but I think that it allows you to be you and you can come back to something that's grounded and knows I think when you're having somebody who's like volatile in their life

doesn't help you and I think that some of the people you have chosen in the past are rocky boats that you're like I don't know what the, like it's like a tipping canoe and you're constantly fucking on there trying to like balance it. And eventually you just tip off.

Yeah. So why don't you like get more of like a bigger, nice solid, big raft where it can't tip and you know and you can land on it whenever you need to and it's not going to tip and you can go and do your thing? Sounds boring to me. Okay, well, you can give it another five years and maybe you'll eventually change after him. That's crazy. We'll keep picking the ones you have and the names that you've been throwing out to me and... I barely throw out a name. I literally, I'm like, I reconnected with someone's out.

No. Immediate now. Two seconds I'll know. Two seconds I know. It's so true. It is so true. And I love, though, that we know each other and we're able to like talk about these things. Because I feel like you are my sounding board.

Oh, I see you in extremes. So I'm going to know how you're... how you're gonna like, navigate shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's, it's very true. And so someone else is just like fucking floating around through like not fully.

No, you don't need that. You just don't. So what's next for you relationship-wise? Like, what's the ideal partner? Someone who loves rhinos, obviously.

Yeah. You have an answer. We've talked about it. I mean, fuck. I think to live and fight the kind of, you know, to fight the battle that I,

you know, been on where you feel fueled in the same passion. I think there's something so invigorating by that. Um, because it is a lifestyle, but it's something that is, I don't know how to explain it. It's like so, it's invigorating. But yeah. And so to find someone that could do this, um, you know, I have the ability to bring people. Yeah, like I think the path, the line passion because otherwise, um, um, um, I may always choose helping wildlife and helping endangered species and helping all the people that are dedicating their life to it because that is like a thing that I can always feel fulfilled by.

And I don't need to have something, someone else fulfill me because I can be fulfilled by doing that and helping the people that are out there with that passion fueled by that. And so, you know, that's why I can be happy with that 70% of the people. I do have and not worry about that 30, but that 30 with somebody that is aligned with me would be like the best life in the world. I just think that it's so challenging. And I think something too we always talk about is I think a lot of people who see you on the internet are like he needs someone that they're going to like give up their life to like come and like support you. But I think that's like the opposite of what you say that you want. You, I don't I don't have to have you here.

Do you want to come and do this? Sure, look a little bit how you've shown up, right? Like, I have the ability to bring people along and do this in different ways and support in different ways. And, you know, we have needs across the board. Like I said, we don't have that much cash. But I just need at least somebody who maybe fits the same mold, but in a different light. Someone who has a lot of goals and is driven, is chasing a thing they've always wanted to, because I can so much resonate with that and support that

because I know how much support means to me. So I'm like, fuck, like I will send all that back to you. Do whatever the fuck you want to do and I'll support you in any single way. And I know that you may not line up with the time where I'm like, there's one night where I'm waiting there and be like, I wish I could like get on our FaceTime with you because you're doing this or that. And there's times where I want that too.

And that's the challenges I had with that last relationship. I'm like... Because she had her own passion. Like she has, yeah. And so someone who shares the fire. The same to the fire of the chasing life in a way that fulfills you and you're passionate about because I can get behind that. I don't care if it's eight months to last see you.

But if I know that you are so happy and driven and pursuing something that is meaningful, I get it because I know that all I want in mind is just support in trying to do that and something that resonates and is supportive of the decisions and the thing that I'm trying to do. And so if I find someone that is doing that for anything, I don't give a fuck what it is. I can get behind it because I know how important it is to be supported. So like I'll give you all of it. So I think that would be the one thing.

And I'm so glad we're able to have this conversation just because obviously I see things online. I see what everyone is saying about, you know, everyone has their opinion, especially on me, on you. But because we are so close and I'm not. know these things about you. I'm so happy that you're able to come on here and talk about it. I really do appreciate you obviously opening up about this. I know it's been such a crazy conversation and it's crazy having this conversation with you in this environment because yesterday

we were sitting here having this heart to heart. So I really do appreciate you being able to open up to the listeners. Anything else you want to add? No. I mean, I appreciate you coming. I think that this is a really interesting project that I hope turns out. I hope. hope that you can see what I'm seeing and I think that you're gonna add layers to the pieces to the puzzle that are me to see from like little the little things you know I see the big picture I know it needs to be slotted but I think there's a story to tell and that's why I think you could be supportive on and I appreciate you coming if you want to support with anything that we have going on right now I mean SOSA is one thing we cover a lot of different organizations but I think

the thing that is the most heartfelt and the thing that you could also stand and by is being done at the orphanage with Rynold and all the rhinos that are coming in here from the babies to the bigger orphans than to the release project. There's a lot going on here. So Zooland Conservation Trust, Zooland Rino Orphanage, both on Instagram.

I just adopted Rynald. So 12 days ago, you can too. And we're gonna follow along with his little life and see how the next two years goes for him until we finally release him in two years from now. Well, we love Rinald, and I know Bachelor Nation loves you. And so thank you for being here. And make sure you guys follow along.

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