Bachelor Happy Hour - Blake Moynes Speaks! Is He on TFP’s Season?! | Happy Hour

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re joined by Blake Moynes! Blake is here for a much-needed catch-up with Joe and Serena. Joe wastes no time diving right in to clear up a massive misunderstanding: Did Blake make another TV appearance?! Then, we get into Blake’s conservation work in Costa Rica and what his day-to-day life looks like. We also discuss the challenges of dating with his career and whether another “Bachelor” show could be in his future. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bet Your Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Blake Moynes. Blake. Welcome. It's nice to catch up every once in a while, isn't it? It is. It is. Where are you? I'm in Costa Rica right. now in the limon area yeah that is but yeah it's nice right along the coast i did talk to them on i called the i thought that oh my god i called uh the center that you're working with to actually confirm you were there you're lying no that was over on sunday the guy answered the guy answered and he's i'm like can you tell me what room could you connect me to blake moines's room he's like sir

we're not a hotel. A hotel. Yeah. I don't know. Blake points. I go, can you at least, can you let me know if Sosa was there? He goes, oh, yes, they were here filming. I was like, okay.

Okay. It's a backtrack because everyone listening is going to be like, why is Joe stalking Blake unprovoked? Yes, yes. Okay. So, and Blake, this is kind of the first time you're going to be hearing it coming from my mouth because I had, I had, I had. We were texting and DMing, but we haven't really spoke. So Serena and I were coming back from IHeart Jingle Ball. We were in the Delta Terminal at LAX.

And there was rumors that we had heard over the time of being at the Jingle Ball that they were about to film hometowns for Taylor Frankie Paul. I just got it on Crustible. I'm sitting there. I'm waiting. I'm eating my Uncrustible. I'm fidgeting with my headphones. And it's over the, over the loudspeaker, you hear,

you hear final boarding call for flight, blah, blah, blah, blah. Paging passengers, insert, producer's name on the bachelor. Producer who we know well, her name. Yep. And then a few other names and then Blake Moynes. And I look at Joe and I'm like, did you hear that? Did you just hear what I think I just heard? And I'm like, I did, I did hear that.

Like I did hear, did she just say Blake Moynes? Five minutes later, they do it again. Producer's name, Blake Moynes. So now I'm like, this crazy motherfucker went back on the Bachelorette. I can't believe he's back on the Bachelorette. So I instantly FaceTime you. You're not answering me and you're going to get up. We're over by that gate.

We're just waiting. At this point, I'm like, we're catching you in the act. It's you and the producer riding. to the gate because you're about to miss your flight and you guys just see Joe and I standing there being like, hi, what the heck is going on? You're a menace. I can't believe you're back on this show. But yeah, you guys never show up, obviously. Okay. So with all that information being said, Blake, the floor is yours. Plead your case. Or are you on Taylor Frankie Paul season of The Bachelorette. That is wild because I've never heard of other Blake

moines um yeah and the coincidence of everything plus knowing that yeah like i have done a couple of them to go back again is as like if there's anyone that's going to do it it's probably that fucker yeah but it would it but it's not even that because if it was anyone's name that i know like you don't your name's not your name's not blake johnson because if it was blake johnson i would say there's definitely another blake johnson or mike johnson but it's If Blake Moyens is a particular name, you don't hear it too often. You're the only Blake Moynes I know.

So I don't even know how to make sense of this unless... You're trying to convince yourself still that I was there somehow. Well, okay, but why are they called? What the fuck is you? There's another Blake Moynes with a Bachelor producer on the same flight flying to Taylor Frankie Paul's season. I just, it's just so insane to me. It's just, it's just a crazy coincidence.

But you were not, I mean, it's not you, right? No. Listen, we like the speculation, right? And like the thing is, it's like, you know, I stuck on to Katie's. And so, you know, I'll leave it up to the imagination. It's just going to have to tune in and see, you know. But listen, I'm all over the world. So it's easy for me to jump in there quick, you know, try to make a mark.

and then dip it's not that it's not that crazy and you'll just have to watch and joe and i are so crazy we're doing the math of like okay if he got sent home at the rose ceremony after hometowns he could have gotten on a flight last night and he could be in costa rica by this morning so it doesn't actually mean he wasn't on the show even if he wasn't on this flight like we're doing all you posted your costa rican footage i go that is old footage he's resurfacing this guy's trying to be slick and so obvious like I would have bet like me and Zach were going back and forth I would have bet him a lot of money like what you did on Sunday now so then we're sitting there Sunday and Zach's over we're sitting here we're watching football I'm like I'm telling you he's there he's

not there like I talk to him he's not there I'm like he's there he's lying to you so I call I find out where you are in Costa Rica and I call the play I thought it was a hotel but it was like it was a rescue center and i was like yeah connect us to blake's room he's like sir i don't know what you think this is but i did get the information that that sosa was there he goes i'm actually looking for sosa and they're like oh sosa yeah they're here yeah um so sosa for everyone also sosa is blake's wildlife company right do you want to talk about that sosa at all let's get into that yeah let's get into that because basically talked for the first 10 minutes of this interview but we wanted to update you on the journey you have sent to song.

So besides going back on Taylor-Frankie Paul season of The Bachelorette, what have you been up to, Blake? So, yeah, so I mean, listen, as much as it would be in a really interesting throw into that, that season, I'm not on Taylor-Frank-Paul season. I am currently in Costa Rica and here, you can see. Actually, there's just a slough that we found just out here up in this tree here at Airbnb. be and uh we're out here with conservation organizations doing some work so um how long i'm not

i'm not there uh i got here on the third okay what and what were you doing before you went there well i'm i'm i'm through a lot of airports right so those layovers i was a bunch of different places you know i was a bunch of different places do you foresee yourself being the father of three Mormon children anytime soon Listen, like I don't, I don't say never, ever, unlikely, very unlikely. And that's what I'll leave you with. But, you know, if we, yeah, I'll leave it of that. So when you are, so you're, so explain to us a little bit about what your company

Sosa is and like you're in Costa Rica now. Are you spending, like, are you having like days off or you go like hang out on the beach or are you just working 24-7? What does it look like? Yeah. I mean, most, most of the times it's 24-7. a bit of a down day because we just got out of an area where we had no Wi-Fi for three days. And what's when I got your text of like salt, like, all this stuff.

I'm like, when there's multiple people in, you know, in this, in this world, message me that. I'm freaking out thinking like what's happening in Salt Lake. Why is everyone asking me where I'm Salt Lake? What's happening? It's not like, no, we just got out of an area, no Wi-Fi, no cell service for three days. So says, Save Our Species Alliance is my wildlife conservation organization. organization. It's a company. It's a for-profit. We work with multiple nonprofits in the space all over the world. And that's why I'm traveling nonstop and could have passed through

wherever you guys were at the airport. But yeah, out here just doing work with different nonprofits. We're actually setting up an experience here and helping leverage some of the initiatives that are happening with our nonprofit partners. So we're media, storytelling, doing some vetting to make sure that we are aligning with the right, you know, reputable organizations they're doing solid good work what animals are are out there in cost rica like i feel like you always go like um and i'm ignorant when it comes to what you do but like like like you're like oh what maybe we'll go see penguins are like is there like a certain like animal that you are trying to conserve right now no that's that's well put that's the way you would put

Yeah, that's not sure, you. Thank you. Yeah, it's good. These are two-way streets. You're going to learn a lot. And the more that we have these chats show, you'll be an expert by the end of it. But down here, it's very diverse. So you could have anything. We went on a night hike and we, like, walked on Ferdalance is one of the most venomous snakes, all different types of amphibians. Wait, what kind of snake? What is it called? of vert lance so it's ven so if you get if you get bit by that snake are you're in trouble with survival chance if you're not getting treatment you're you're in a heap of trouble for sure like if and especially in the areas that we're at if you're not getting medical tension you're in trouble and we're walking down the trail in the night we've got our um headlamps on and flashlights and this juvenile essentially was blended right into the trail you would have not known it's there

And if I was leading, I probably would have stepped on it and been in a lot of trouble. And then we slowed down for the rest of the height because we ran into another one that was like a foot and a half long. Oh my God. You didn't have to the first one go like, let's circle back. Let's get out of here. In this specific area where we were into the altitude, the wetland, marshy, like mountainous range, essentially they're all over the place. You can't, you can avoid them. You just have to have your eyes peeled, especially in the night time.

You know they're going to, you're going to encounter them. It's just how to do it safely. Yeah. And I just didn't realize there was going to be just the extent in which we, we did. But yeah, I mean, there's all, sloth is a huge thing here, right? You think about Costa Rica. You think about sloth. So we have an alliance partner down here, Sloth Conservation Foundation, which we do a lot of work with.

And we business them today. But, you know, we just got to have a place called Pacoar Reserve, which essentially this, along this wildlife corridor, you can imagine that farms are really taking over these, these areas. And as we encroach on wild habitat, how do, you know, jaggs get around, jaguars? How do all these animals get through these places and what their massive home ranges? So jaguars, sea turtles, sloths, anything you could think of in Costa Rica. It's, yeah, we work with anything and everything. Whoever needs help and whatever initiative is, you know, needs support, basically.

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Listen to Sacred Lessons as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. When you say like, okay, so if you would have stepped down that snake, you would have been in a heap of trouble because, but do you have, um, doctors or any medical help with you on these walks? Because, you know, like, let's say you did get like, bit. Are you done? Is life over? Well, it's, then it becomes a, then the clock starts, right? So depending on the snake and all have, um, you're going to have a different reaction based on the type of snake

and the type of venom that they have and some are more potent than others and so it's just a matter of what in our first aid kit do we have and we have snake bite you know things but it's only going to buy you time it's not going to solve the issue so how do you kind of

it's like having something you have a kit that's going to help with whatever the bite is but it's not going to here it's not an anti-venom that you can get you know at a local medical center. So it's a matter of what's the evacuation look like? What's the time going to take?

You know, how can we slow down this, the spread? Most importantly, it's like, okay, make sure that we're wearing the right equipment so that if a snake does bite, it's preventable, but we weren't actually that night. But it is what it is. Do you like, do you like before going on this trail or wherever you go, are do you have a like an emergency like do you know hey we are 35 minutes from this point from the nearest hospital and you know as we get you know as we get an hour into the trail that means we're an hour 35 minutes like do you know all those things do you have like points yeah and like

this is in a scenario where or one this was like a private thing so we went out with a leading researcher, scientist in this space, in amphibian specifically. So he's lived for 25 years in this massive 50 hectare property. So we're with somebody that can get us to help, like, super, super quick. Not only from a phone call to have service. And all our phones even have service in these scenarios. So we have, like, emergency devices like Garmin and spot and things for more out there scenarios, like in Alaska, you know, we're with Grizzlies and things.

Like, those are more scary to me because, yeah, you're just completely screwed in that scenario. You're a flight away from help. But, yeah, we're always taking, you know, all the precautions. And especially when we have trips where we're bringing people out, right, you're taking care of guests. So everything has to be dialed in for rescue plans, evact plans, risk management plans, all those things are in place. What does SOSA stand for? So SOSA is Save Our Species Alliance. So essentially the alliance can be multiple things.

It could be organizations that are out here doing the work. It could be people that are supporting us. It could be professionals. It could be other conservationists. So it's an alliance of people trying to save our species essentially. And that is a broad scope. And so if Serena and I, if I was like, I want to, we want to experience wildlife, like somewhere, somewhere in the world, we would go on your website or I don't know how we would do. how would we go about like but do you do you take people on trips essentially that is part of it right

yeah so we directly um in most case i would say right at this point it's like 85% we go directly to the NGO so we curate specifically with the NGO so there's what's minimizing uh non-profit organization basically um so any of these uh in the space we curate with them directly so that we're minimizing the amount of money that has to go to subconscious contractors or operators. One, because then we can fund their organizations and their initiatives more so, more money funnels to them directly. But then for people coming on, right, people that want to come on our trips are wanting to be more than just a passive tourist. Like, they want to get involved. They want to be involved in a rhinody horning and like, you know,

work with animals and see how the science actually contributes to conservation and meet these experts in the field, some of which are, you know, renowned that we work with. So, um, that's how we curate our programs. We've got to, like, dial it back a little bit. Some of them are too intensive because Joe, we'd like to have, you know, your demo come out. You know what I mean? And you feel safe, you know, to coming out and maybe something a little bit more or just like, yeah, like I don't like like I, I, I, I am interested and I would like to do it. But I don't ever want to be in a position where, man, if I would have stepped on that snake a little to the left, I'd be a goner like.

Yeah. I don't want to be in the forest at night, let alone with the snakes. No, I wouldn't mind being there at night. I just, I want to make sure that I am safe. And if I am going to die, like, I want to die. Like, I want to, I want to die in one, like, one sweep. Like, I don't want to get bit by a snake and have venom seeping through my body for 45 minutes and go that way. Like, if I'm going to die, like, low risk excursion.

Yeah, yeah. Or to kill them. themselves. I mean, the other part of this, right, is like, for example, doing that what we did with the snakes. It's like, if we're there right now to actually set up and vet and see what does our cost we could experience look like for guests. So if we're going to go do this again and bring guests through, okay, are we going to sweep this whole route first before we even bring people on this? Is this something that is optional? And, you know, not everyone has to go on this part of it. It's not like we're bringing people into, you know, venomous snake areas.

on the constant and there's a variation of the type of experiences that we give people and not all of them are intensive like botswana for example coming up in april it's very much luxury heavy with youth education built in and you're like you're in helicopters flying into these back private lodges and it's not as crazy as you're potentially picturing all of our experiences and then do you have like a max amount of people that you will take on a trip like is it like okay we have you know this is a slot for 15 people once it fills done yeah and they'll vary so for example imagine if you're we're going diving with sharks for example one if i'm in the water and i've got 15 people to be careful with with you know

multiple sharks coming in and out depending on visibility and all those things then i'm panicking the whole time because like it's impossible to to react or manage people in that scenario so that's like six people max. It can go to eight when we're in backcountry in Alaska with grizzlies and, you know, camping with like electric bear fences out. Like the more people in these higher risk situations with wildlife, the more risky it gets. So what is that, what is that boundary or that cutoff that it's immersive enough, safe enough, you know, and then there's ones like Botswan or Maldives that we're running that are 12, 13, high as 15.

So it really depends. Do you have a trip coming up that you're excited about? Yeah, there's, I mean, there's so many new ones coming up. I mean, in terms of what we're offering, the brand new one coming out as Maldives and that sold out pretty quickly. The nice thing is we built a community. So our what we called wild ones is our community of people who have been on multiple trips at this point.

some of them been on five so typically one person comes on one they're coming on many um because they're finding like minded people who like this type of adventure and travel um and so maldives will be an interesting one we're going down and doing shark science and diving and snorkeling and all that kind of thing but it's again it's luxury or island hopping around um the other trips that we're setting up potentially being here coast rica the amazon um Australia galapagos uh What else? We're going to form one in Canada, working on that. So, yeah, there's a bunch coming up. But then there's also a little different projects with Orca, maybe Tiger, where's more hands-on projects, not with guests, but specifically just the social team.

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It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons.

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I felt it ripped through me with just a force more powerful and terrible than anything that I could describe. In season two of Rip Current, we ask, who tried to kill Judy Barry and why? She received death threats before the bombing. She received more stress after the bombing. The man and woman who were heard had planned to lead a summer of militant protest against logging practices in Northern California. They were climbing trees and they were sabotaging logging equipment in the woods. The timber industry, I mean, it was the number one industry in the area, but more than it was the culture. It was the way of life.

I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike Delocho. This is Sacred Lessons,

a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now? Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breast. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts.

You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that. You got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and that's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to sacred lessons as part of the Maikutura podcast network,

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Last time I was with you, you were a single man. are you still single and I imagine you are because I know you are um so yeah I just answered my own question but that's just how we do things sometimes um how like yeah like what's it like have you thought about like dating someone serious with with having this company now because it does seem like like the more i the longer i've known you it seems like you are like it seems like you're getting busier every year which busy in your case means you're you're really just you're gone like you're off the grid um so what i guess what does dating look like i think that's that that is the most challenging um i think i i mean i this is this is the most challenging

peace room because I have everything else like go. I'm very happy, right? I'm living a very purposeful life. Like it's exciting. You know, the team now at seven, eight, we're bringing on a couple more. And so with that, though, investing so much. I mean, listen, when I came off the batch of the first time, like, you know, there's all these different opportunities and the brand deals and all the things. It's not the same anymore as it once was, as we all know, right? But all that money, anything that came from that, all of my posting, everything I did socially was about wildlife and promoting these initiatives and like trying to garner funding and like bringing awareness to these things. So I have dumped so much from five years ago into now, but even more so.

I mean, listen, I've sold my house, put all, anything I made in my house into this, I pulled investments and put it into it. So, you know, when you invest that much into something that you also love so much, it seems to always take priority. but only more so in the last six months we're like the time is now like we brought all these new hires and if you're going to make it happen like your energy needs to go into that

but I do suffer and struggle because I have no social life when it comes to to meeting people I don't meet people in Costa Rica in the jungle when we're sweating buckets and disgusting and your mind's not even in that when you have so much going on you have to execute on so many things

so when I'm home And like, yeah, I might meet somebody for a date. But I think the struggle is this is even as credible as incredible as they can be where I walk away from a date and be like, great girl. And like, it's such a disservice to, I don't want to cut myself off because I'm also, it's unhealthy to like completely close the door and like. But you are in a way, in a way you, you, and it's not like this is an unconstitutional. common scenario. You're, you're someone who's essentially married to your work for now.

Like you're, you're like your, what you're doing, your passion is your job. You have everything writing in it. So it's going to come first. You know, matter how great the day it is. I mean, right? Definitely. The thing is, is I do. So we came to this pinnacle essentially. My brother, thankfully, works reporter as a pilot, has left his day job within, um, He was doing a lot of the actual training. So working in the office the times that he wasn't flying. So he can only fly certain amount of hours per week, essentially. He's now coming on board.

He's taking his master's in business. We align on everything. So he's going to be able to take my seat essentially to like help free up a lot of my time because I can't continue on at this pace. Number one for like my own social, you know, relationship healthy with friends, family, let alone, you know, relationship romantically, and then just burn out. Like, it's as much as it looks glamorous to do this consistently, like there's times where I came at a, I was in Australia, Thailand, Kenya, in the border of Somalia, back to Zambia,

back to Kenya, South Africa within, you know, a two-month period I didn't touch home. And it's like, you just burn out. I was right. I was like, I want to go home. And who says that when they're in Kenya, right? so we have things have to change things have to change here but I do see you know some light at the end of the tunnel here finally with things rounding out and these new hire settling in and my brother coming on where I can start to like live a little bit and and you know there

is another opportunity and Joe I know I mentioned to you where there was two different opportunities that presented me for other networks and things and last minute I pulled out I was like, I can't go and do this. I'm not ready for this. And if I'm not going to be fully present and no, I can't give energy, if I meet someone who's absolutely incredible and they see me as lack of effort, you know, lack of energy and time to something I want to give but can't. And they see, like, this guy doesn't give a shit.

He's just one of these, another one of these guys. It's like, it's not that I'm like doing it out of anything other than just really trying to make, you know, this dream really work. And I don't want to, it's almost like I don't want to meet someone. that I really like in this period when I can't give them I don't want them to see me in a life that is not me normally when things settle and I have the time and energy to give somebody that they you know deserve especially someone that I really like what is incredible to you like do you do you think you need to find a partner who is who is as

ambitious as you are like is that is that a deal breaker for you do you need someone who is also in love or at least knows their passion because I do you know there is a lot of people there are a lot of people out there that haven't found that there are a lot of people out there that are just like chilling and happy with what they do but like it's not their passion they don't really care that much about it I think there's two different ways with this I think one yeah fantastic they're ambitious and have all their things going on right I understand the importance of feeling supported right like And if I don't have some of the understands and supports, then it's always going to feel like I've got to choose.

And I don't want to ever have that feeling. So one, having someone that has something that they're passionate about or ambitious or drive would be great because, one, it's like, you know, just the talk and alignment across, you know, both of our passions or projects where we're working on, you know, it's supportive and having that, that layer support is huge. now flip side most people don't have that totally fine and i never really did until six years ago and i realized this is what i wanted to do and if it's more of um sedentary anyways we know which we're looking for i feel like jesus ambitious guys fucking idiots we can't even pronounce yeah um but you know which one you know what i'm you know what i yes i know the word I know the word. Yeah.

That is also seems so great to want to come home too, right? Where I can check out and come back to that and like settle into that. But I think I need to be in a better place to be able to check out and be more present when I'm with that person. And we can just settle into what life will be and what family would be and like going to the gym and going to get a smoothie or whatever those things are. But if my mind is always another place, because of all these crazy things happening, then that won't necessarily work, and it won't be great for her.

And then the other thing is just at least understanding. I don't, like, support and understanding. I think you can see that, like when I, especially when I date and things, like when I speak about wildlife, I get really riled up and I can get, you know, passionate about things. And so they can see that. And so, yeah, their understanding of everything and supportive,

I don't think it really matters. what lane that that potential woman is in. Yeah. I feel like you need someone who's either totally cool with you being gone for work a lot and is either like got their own thing going or is like, you do you, I'm doing me at home, see you when you get back, or is going to immerse themselves in your work because it's a shared passion. Yeah. The other thing that like, and this is like what I, there's so many times where I'm out here doing this.

and I'm like, you know, what it could be this really insane moment. I'm like, yeah, it's great that I have like a team around me that like it was like, that was fucking crazy. Like how incredible was that? But like to be able to share that with someone that you love or someone that has never done that before where it's like you're bringing like something to them that like is an experience or an emotion or a feeling that they would never get otherwise, it's like a gift. Like there's there's something to this that if you're,

You're trying to think of, like, how can you bring someone the most joy or like the best life possible? It's like, there's a lot of moments across my life and all these experiences where I'm like, fuck, it would be cool to like share this with somebody. So that day will maybe happen. But until then, just keep doing my thing. Okay. Would you, you got a question? No, good.

Would you ever go back on? let's say let's say uh for the sake of the hypothetical let's say you didn't go on taylor frankie paul's season and joe and i are conspiracy theorists if they came to you and said we've got a girl either on paradise or as the bachelorette and we think that you guys would be a fit would you ever consider going back on i mean yeah i mean listen i think depending on the scenario there's so many different factors obviously bachelor's a bit of stretch because like that's not really as fun like paradise is fun um i think maybe a different concept in sense of like i don't it would be great to not go on something that is like find a person

find your person love romance love love like heavy in that set in that sense um maybe a different concept or a blend or something is not as serious in this exact moment where it's more playful it's not uh It's more easy going where I don't feel like that is the full premise of like you've got your to find love, right? Because I know I won't be able to deliver in that sense. Can I deliver with entertainment and some crazy shit? Yeah. Like I could do that for sure.

And I don't shy away from that. But it depends, I think. Yeah. That makes sense. We saw that you are going on the cruise, the Bachelor Nation cruise next November. What can you tell us about that? Well, for one, I think the reason that I'm looking forward to it most is, one, I actually don't, outside of, like, seeing you guys the odd time, Zach here and there, like, I don't really

get to go and do or involve myself too much in a lot of this space as much as I used to, but I do have a lot of fun when I'm in those environments and diving into that. So one, I think it's going to be fun to actually be with all of these, you know, people in this space that, one, I haven't met or some that I haven't seen in a long time. But it seems like there's a great list of activities. I know we're working through a bunch more, and I gave them a whole long list of some crazy fun things we can be doing, and I know they're slowly rolling those out. So there's a little morning chat where I'm going through all my wildlife stories and things

and diving into some crazy near-death situations and just some behind-the-scenes things. But yeah, I think it's going to be three days. where for the most part, I've never had a bad run in with someone who is the end of the show. And so I think it's going to be super optimistic, fun, lighthearted. And for me, it's a nice to be able to check out and actually go and do something that doesn't feel like it's a job and on vacation and on a boat that is like luxury

versus like a rickety Amazon riverboat. Yeah, it's not like threatening. It's very safe. No snakes, hopefully. Well, Blake, this was a lot. lot of fun talking to you um always a pleasure if you oh we'll be uh we'll be in toronto for starting the 19th for like 12 days around christmas if you are around would love to get a drink yeah i'll be back i get back on the 5th 14th 15th and then i'm around for that whole period of

time so and i'm due and i'm realistically i am due um i drink like four times a year four times a year. I usually let loose a little bit too much on those four times just to make up for all the times in between. But, you know, that's where I'm the most fun. You can see that's not. All right. Well, yeah, let me, uh, I'll hit you up or hit me up when you are in the city. And to all our listeners, thank you guys so much for tuning in the battery happy. Make sure you download and subscribe for the podcast. We'll have new and it's a little bit of an interviews for you every single week. Thanks for listening. Bye. join Substack, very exciting.

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