Bachelor Happy Hour - Brandon’s ‘Friend’ Dishes on Jessi Draper, Plus: Ronn on Love and the Loss of His Mom | Happy Hour

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back with more men from Taylor Frankie Paul’s “Bachelorette” season. We kick things off with Brandon, who speaks on the show’s pa...use, understanding Taylor through his mother’s life experience, and being the competitive guy in the house. He also dishes on his “friend’s” very public plea for Jessi Draper, including some new tea! Then, we sit down with Ronn, a man with a big heart and a heartbreaking story. Ronn tells us about the recent passing of his mother, a major “Bachelor” fan and the woman who got his journey started. He tells us how he’s navigated the loss, what it’s taught him, and what grief teaches us about love. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:02 and we cannot wait to share them with you guys. So let's not keep you guys waiting any longer. Today's guest on Bachelor Happy Hour is 28-year-old loan officer from Spearfish, South Dakota. Everybody welcome, Brandon. Hello. Hello, hello. Hello. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Brandon, we are so excited to have you. We've been starting off all these episodes checking in and seeing how you're feeling. We know this has been just so unprecedented. There's a lot of emotions. Where are you at right now? Yeah, you know, it's pretty crazy. The whole experience was surreal to begin with. So now going through the whole waiting period, the hype of it launching to now be in this stage where it's like just waiting to see what happens, what comes of it. You know, it's a pretty weird spot to be in. Like you said, unprecedented. So yeah, it's a crazy spot. I'm just trying to control what I can control, which is, you know, be a present dad.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I got two kids, work, and just hope for the best. You know, also give support for Taylor in any way that I can too. You know, I can imagine what she's going through right now. We're human. We all make mistakes. But yeah, I just, I reached out to her. I gave her my support. You know, I couldn't imagine what she's going through.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So just controlling what I can control and support in any way that I can. You mentioned being a dad. Can you tell us a little bit about your kids, if that's. that's okay. Yeah, of course. Yeah, no, I got a four-year-old daughter named Daisy and a three-year-old son named Levi. Yeah, yeah. So I get him, I get him right after this call. So. Oh, beautiful. The weekend with them. Oh, my gosh. That's so exciting. Yeah, no, it's a blast. You know, it's hard being a single dad, 50-50, custody and whatnot, you know, because when they're with their mom, I always have like a weird anxiety. Like, are they having more fun with her than me,
Starting point is 00:04:57 which I shouldn't feel that way. Yeah. But it's just, yeah, it's not ideal, but, you know, it's life. So I'm making the most of it. Yeah. Going into your season, Taylor is obviously a mother. What was that like being able to connect with her? Because I think a lot of times guys will say,
Starting point is 00:05:13 oh, I know what you're going through, but you actually know. Yeah. No, I think it's a huge advantage for me having kids, you know, the fact that Taylor had kids of her own, just because, like you said, it's an experience that you can't, prepare for. You know, you have to go through it to truly understand what a day in the life is like, getting kids ready for school or daycare, you know, packing lunches, the chaos, you know, the tantrums.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So I truly felt like I have a huge advantage going into it because of that reason, you know, and that's what I'm looking for in a partner too. You know, it's hard to really relate, especially the people my age, you know, 28. I'll be 29 and like four days. Happy birthday. Happy early birthday. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Getting old. Getting old. But, you know, it's hard to relate with people my age that don't have kids. And, you know, when you're looking for a partner, you know, it's an awkward setting. I feel like bringing them and introducing them to kids when they're not used to it. They don't know what it's like.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So. Yeah. Yeah. So were you able to connect with a lot of the other single dads on the cast? Because I know this cast kind of has, it's a variety, a little bit of a mix. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, one of the guys that I connected with right off the bat was Christopher. So I know he's got a daughter, 13-year-old.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So a lot of the stuff I was going through emotionally on the show, being away from my children. You know, it was nice to kind of bounce it off of him, connect with him in that regard. But it was a little different too. You know, 13 is a much different age than a 4-year-old and a 3-year-old. And at the time, that was the longest I'd been away from him. I think the longest before the show was like five days that I'd been away from him. So being gone that long, face-timing once a week to him was, it definitely took its toll. time progressed for sure yeah yeah i think like going in as a single parent this is obviously you
Starting point is 00:07:03 really showing up because you want to find someone and you're you're ready for that so what was it like in your previous relationships whatever you're comfortable talking with um we know you were married what are you looking for now compared to in the past yeah you know it's been about three years since my divorce going on three years and i haven't dated anybody seriously since um you know i've at flings here and there. But I live in small town, South Dakota. So the options are very, very limited on, you know, what's out there, you know. So that's why this opportunity was so huge, too, because I felt like this is a good opportunity to get out there, meet someone that's not from this small town that can relate to me on certain levels, like having children.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And in truthfully, we have a very similar upbringing, Taylor and I, just family dynamic, it seemed like. So when you don't go looking for it, it usually comes to you. least expect it. So yeah. Okay, well, take us back before, because I will follow up to that. Yes, I will as well. We'll go back to your journey starting on the Bachelorette. How did you get here? Did you apply? Did someone nominate you fall in your lap? Like, how did it happen? Yeah, wild, life's the trip. So I just, I was at my ex-wife's house playing with the kids one day. and I got a DM from a recruiter for the show. And it was like, hey, I think you'd be a good fit.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Do you have time to get on a call? I showed it to Max Life. I'm like, is this a scam? Like, what is this? And so I messaged back, didn't think much of it. And then that led to another call, to another call to all the tests. And 30 days from that DM, you know, I was flying out to the mansion for the show. So it was just super quick and out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:08:46 So I was like, this is a wild, wild experience. And I'm just going to make the most of it. Have fun with it. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. 30 days is very short. That is crazy. Did you go in knowing Taylor was going to be the Bachelorette?
Starting point is 00:09:00 And you got cast. Did they already say she was cast as the lead? Yep. So she let me know that it was Taylor. And I had never seen Mormon wives prior. And I still haven't. I still haven't watched the show. But I did some research on Taylor.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And, you know, I saw the stuff. You know, I saw that the allegations and whatnot. You know, it's life. I didn't, wasn't going into it thinking that. I didn't want to watch the show either because I know people have their the perception of her and whatnot. So I just went into it to genuinely get to know her, ask her questions as if it is a first date.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And I don't know much about her. And I think that also were to an advantage. Yeah. Yeah. So how was it meeting the guys for the first time? What was that dynamic like? Were you like fearful that, oh my God, I'm about to be with all these men and they may not like me.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like, did any of those things cross your mind? You know, I didn't think about any of that products. It was so quick, you know, like I said. So I just really, I wasn't thinking about how that might play out. But, you know, night one meeting the guys. I remember just getting in the limo and meeting a handful of them for the first time. And, you know, we're laughing, having a good time, thinking this is crazy, cool. Next thing, I know the door opens up, and I'm the first one out.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So I was like, oh. And then I remember what I was going to say. So it was just, I mean, I blacked out that. I don't remember anything from the adrenaline. Like, it was just so crazy. But then, yeah, it was just patiently waiting for the guys to come in, one at a time and meet them and they were all super cool. You know, there was some head budding. You know, I'm a competitor. So, and when I want something, I go after it. And so I did that on the
Starting point is 00:10:32 show, you know, it was just me. And some of the guys were wrong by that where. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe came off as too aggressive. I don't know. But that's for them to handle. That's not my problem. Well, I'll be interested to see. Yeah, because everyone has been saying that camaraderie was like, you were they were more interested i guess in talking to the guys than pursuing the lead but it sounds like you came in not really wanting to make friends knowing what you want you're a father so obviously you have a lot at stake being there yeah yeah no i was uh i was not there to mess around play games i mean don't get me wrong all the guys we definitely have good camaraderie and we all ended up getting along and you know squashing that but there was a few there was a few guys where like my first
Starting point is 00:11:16 impression just came off as like, I'm there for Taylor. You know, I'm not there to mess around. But, you know, night one, we took the group photo and we had to take a silly photo. And so I was next to her. So I was like, can I pick you up for this photo? So I picked it up night one, you know, and held her in my arms. And so that's that'll do it. Yeah. That sparked the momentum of like the, okay, who's this guy? So yeah. Yeah. What was it like connecting night one with Taylor. I know you said that you have a strong faith. She has a strong faith. What were you guys able to connect on night one? Yeah, night one. I made it clear, you know, how much I appreciate her sacrifice being there as a single mom, being away from her kids. So I think right off the bat, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:00 connecting on the parenthood aspect. And then, you know, we really eventually got more into our upbringing, you know, like her structure with her parents. And it was actually crazily, yeah, similar to mine. and two with her siblings as well. So we really connected on a personal level of that, too. We also connected on our love for cookie dough. You know, I'm a huge cookie dough fan. So, yeah, I can eat cookie dough all day. And so we just connect on little things like that too.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Mm-hmm. And Taylor also played, I believe she played basketball growing up. You also were a D-1 football player. Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, yeah. So I didn't have any scholarships out of high school. I ended up playing junior college. college football and then being a two-time All-American for junior college and then earning
Starting point is 00:12:47 division one scholarships. So I committed to Bowling Green State in Ohio, got to play against teams like Notre Dame, Kansas State, which was super cool experience, you know, which also gave me a little chip on my shoulder too, you know, being on the show with the other guys. It was just like, you know, I've done a lot of cool stuff in my life. I feel like, you know, I also was married, divorce, started a business, sold that business after the divorce, but just the things in my life that led me to that point, I felt like gave me a little bit of an advantage. Yeah, I went to college in Ohio. I went to OU.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Oh, you? Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah, we are. Yes. What was that like bringing that competition into the house? It sounds like you're a competitor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 A lot of other athletes there too. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, you know, I love it. I love a lot of the athletes of the guys that I connected with, too. Just a certain camaraderie with athletes, you know, especially at that caliber. I think night one it was. We were playing basketball outside, and I dumped, you know, on somebody.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And so that was another thing, too. They're like, Brandon's trying a little too hard over here. He's dunking on people. So, yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, it was a good time. Dunking, picking up the lead.
Starting point is 00:13:58 It sounds like you went in with like the target straight on the back. But I love it. I love that you were there for her and energy. We're bringing it. And I didn't have any, I didn't have any tequila in me yet at that point. either. So even more than to heal them on. That was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the next level, that was the case. Yeah. Okay, so you currently live in South Dakota. What is that like? What is dating like? What's your day to day like? Tell us about work. Yeah, day to day. I mean, like I said,
Starting point is 00:14:31 small towns, there's not a whole lot to do. But really right now, it's just wake up, get the kids ready for daycare, head to the office. You know, I'm a loan officer, so it's making calls with realtors, the borrowers, working out for lunch or whatever, and then picking them up after work, going home, and just getting settled in for the night. That's really it. The weekends that I don't have my kids, you know, I just stay inside. I'm not a big, there's not a lot to do out here, so I try to stay inside right now and just
Starting point is 00:15:02 keep to myself and chill. Yeah, pretty boring. Speaking of keeping to ourselves, I think being charity, we have a question. Yeah, we do. And we saw online that you were asking for a friend about Jesse Draper. Do you want to comment on that video? Yeah, my friend. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Great guy, by the way. You know, my friend thinks she's a good looking woman. She's a beautiful woman and newly single. So all I can say to that. that, I think it's been confirmed by my friend that they've been texting the last couple days. So, oh, come on break you heard it here first on Bachelor Happy. Are that making news? We'll see what happens with that. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, my goodness. My, my. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, where do we go from here? I just want to ask all the questions. Should we go to the tattoos? She's a good text. She's a good text her from when I hear. Yeah. No, she's a good
Starting point is 00:16:07 She's fun. Yeah, no, she's, she's surprised my friend with, yeah, she's good at conversation. So we'll see. Amazing. Okay. I love to hear it. I love love. I'm saying too much.
Starting point is 00:16:19 This is great. This is great. Never too much. We do on Bachelor happy hour. We find connections and love and we love talking about it. It's perfect. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Okay. I'm like, where do we go from this? I know, because we have to ask about the tattoos. It's not a good segue, but we need. to talk about the fact that you have done all your tattoos besides your right hand and your back? Yeah, yeah, besides the right hand in the back. Yeah, tell us how. Yeah, so young and dumb, you know, I was like 22, I think, and got a tattoo gun on Amazon for like 40 bucks.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And then just started doing smiley faces on my thigh first to test it out. And then got the transfer paper or whatever. So I just found random images online. Like they have no meaning other than my kids' initials. the heart and the dolphin for my mom because she loves dolphins. They have no meaning other than that. So just images offline and, you know, I was bartending at the time. I think I had like four hours before my shift.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And so I knocked out the sleeve right before that. Wow. Yeah, no, they're not perfect, but I'll take them for 40 bucks. My gosh, do you consider yourself an impulsive person? Oh, very. Okay. Very, okay. Because that is insane.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't think I could handle the pain on myself. I would need someone. to do it. And he said for us before a shit. Like crazy. Yeah. That is impressive. Are you artistic besides that?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, I think so. Like I drew a lot, you know, when I was growing up. And I actually did want to be a tattoo artist. Like, that was like my dream when I was, I don't know, maybe in middle school. So like I was this close to getting a tattoo at that time when I was like 13 behind my mom's back, which, thank God I didn't. Because those tattoos would have been very bad. But yeah So I was fresh out of college
Starting point is 00:18:09 It was like 22 and Screw it now I can do tattoos Let me just buy a tattoo gun and try it out Oh my gosh Do you ever like go into that? Like would I? Yeah No no I don't want to mess anybody up
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah I tattooed my mom I did tattoo my mom and I tattooed my brother Actually with that tattoo gun So they're like do a tattoo on us So that's it I'll jack up my mom and my brother But nobody else
Starting point is 00:18:36 Oh my goodness. So talk to us a little bit about your family life. Did you grow up in South Dakota? No. So I was born in Chicago. My parents were never married. Yeah. So grew up in Wisconsin. And then, yeah, live there most of my life and then went to college and now just in South Dakota. Do you have any siblings? I have a half sister named Jessica on my dad's side. I haven't seen her since I was probably 11. And then my mom side, I have a half-brother who I talk to you every now and then. He's like 22. Okay. How did they feel about you going on the show and doing all of this? Yeah, no, they were supportive.
Starting point is 00:19:19 They were super excited. I grew up watching The Bachelor and The Bachelor with my mom as a kid. You know, that was like our thing, Monday night before bed, watching The Bachelor and dancing with the stars and whatever else. Secret of, what is it? Not Secret of Life. Desper Housewives. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah. Yeah. That was like child core memories right there. So yeah, I grew up watching it and they were freaking out. And, you know, it was just surreal. Again, being in that mansion where I used to watch it as a kid, you know, growing up. Yeah. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Was your mom so excited when you told her you got cast? I feel like moms who watch the show. I love this. Yes, my mom was freaking out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, she was freaking out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I mean, she told all of her friends. She had a whole watch party set up for the show with all of her friends back in Milwaukee. So she's keeping along with all the drama. It's Bruno Mars, live in Toronto. Iheart Radio wants to send you and a friend with flights from TripCentral.ca. Two nights at Sheridan Center, Toronto. Tickets to Bruno Mars and $1,000 to cash.
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Starting point is 00:24:45 What are the main qualities that you find attractive and that you want in your future wife that maybe this friend might have or in general? Hmm. That's a tough one because I naturally, I say blondes, but like I always end up with brunettes if I'm going physical first, right? Like, yeah, just to go physical first. But obviously, you know, beautiful woman is ideal. And then someone who's nurturing, you know, good with children. They have some life experience to them too, you know, someone that's been through the struggle and kind of understands, you know, how to handle adversity, basically, have some maturity to them. Definitely need someone mature because dating pool is slim nowadays with maturity.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And I think that's a big one. Just maturity, nurturing, you know, I'm more than willing to be the provider, but I also think it's attractive when someone is a go-getter themselves. You know, they have a goal. They have a dream. And they go pursue that. You know, it's an attractive trait. So I would say blonde or brunette or redhead that works hard. Any hair color. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:51 I heard Jesse does hair. Yeah. So I feel like any color, like it truly, I mean, she could go blonde. Hasn't she been blonde? Why? You know, I'll have to ask my friend. I don't know. You'll have to ask your friend a report back straight to me.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yes. Okay. And on bad to have. Yes. We will review this in a couple of weeks. Salt Lake's not too far from South Dakota just saying. Okay. Get those mouths in.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Okay. We're going to have to like, we're going to reel it in. Real it in. We're going to add. I can't. Before we pivot to our game. She's going to block my number after this. No.
Starting point is 00:26:32 No, no, no. Okay. We saw on your socials that you had a transformation physically. So tell us about that and your health journey. Yeah, no, I was a little thick boy. I was like 260 pounds in high school. And, you know, again, I had that dream to play division one football. And I just became obsessed with diet, nutrition, exercise and really just went full head of steam into training two, sometimes three times a day and just working my butt off. So I think it was my playing weight when I got to D1 was like 21st, versus the 260 I was, you know, in high school. So, yeah, just a lot of hard work, discipline, you know, things that carry over into a relationship as well. Like, you need those things in a relationship. So otherwise it fails.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And that's why I also think going back to the other question with an ideal partner, I think someone with athletic history is also attractive. You know, they've been through that too. They know what it takes to be successful at an elite level. And you take care of yourself physically, it usually correlates mentally and emotionally. So yeah. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Okay. I think it's time when you play a game. I think so. All right. All right. So we're going to play hot seat, which is basically just like rapid fire prompts. Show us your personality.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Have fun with it. Don't take it too serious. Okay. All right. So the first one is we heard that you're a poetry guy. Do you have a favorite poem? Hmm. I have a favorite.
Starting point is 00:28:07 poet. His name's Walt Whitman. Walt Whitman. He's actually the one that I was reading a lot of before I went on the show. Yeah, so Walt Whitman, I would say, is a good poet that I like. Anything romantic, honestly, something on a deep romance level.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Before I went on the show, too, I was obsessed with the notebook. So The Notebook, too, is a good movie. A lot of hate on that movie, but I like it. Was that one of your fun facts? Is that your favorite movie is a no bit? yeah yeah i think you're yeah yeah yeah yeah okay people think i'm lying but i swear i watch it every day
Starting point is 00:28:43 that's my dad's favorite movie like actually so i believe it the chemistry's unreal yeah truly my dad says he loves it movie because he loves the ending yeah no the ending is really sweet he's like it's so sweet you know what i would actually yeah it is sweet i fast forwarded through all the parts where they're old i actually didn't care with that part i only like the part i know that is like the sweet i know that is like the just probably it's all so yeah he's like I don't like that okay you have said that you have the tendency to send text messages to the wrong people what is the worst text you have accidentally sent uh it happens more often than not nowadays just because my phone is always blowing up it seems like
Starting point is 00:29:27 um and i lose track of whom texting one that comes to mind is uh i thought i was texting my mom back saying, I love you too. And it actually went to my ex-wife. So that's one that I put the head to say, not for you, you know? Unsend. Unsend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So that one is definitely one that sticks out. The rest are just, I texted a client one time, something personal. I can't remember what it was, but that was another awkward one too. That's actually my personal nightmare. Like, cannot remember.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Have you ever sent a screenshot? of a message to the person. No, never done that. Sounds like you've done it. Never done that. I did that when I was in a group project and I sent the screenshot to the group project and then talk shit about them. So I did that once too, but, you know, we've called in there.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah, yeah, not a fun. Okay, last one. Is there a sport you are not good at but play it anyway? I played a lot of sports going on. So I would say the only one. He's like, I'm good. at the ball. Yeah, no, I would say every single one. If someone asked me, is there anything bad, I would say no. But golf, truthfully, anything that's technical, you know, there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:30:46 technique involved with golf. And I just, I can't do it. I don't have the patience for it, the driving range I can do, or mini golf, but that's actually hard for me too many golf. I'm more of like a physical type guy, you know, like wrestling, football. I could do basketball too. But golf, for sure is one that I would struggle with. Thanks. Yeah. Brandon, this has been so great. I had so much fun, at least.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I hope you did too. Before we go, is there anything you want to leave Bachelor Nation with and where can we find you on socials? Bachelor Nation, I just want to say thank you guys for the support. Hopefully, fingers crossed, we get to see this season. You know, I think it would be good to see you, aside Taylor, that the public maybe has never seen before, you know, there's, there's more to her than what's going around. And I saw that firsthand. So hopefully people get to see that. With me, socials, I think my Instagram is Brandon
Starting point is 00:31:46 Purse, P-E-R-C-E-R-C-E-U-R-C-E-U-R-C-E-U-N-N-N-I-N-N-I-N-N-I-F-Fitness. So those are my socials, Batchanation. Yeah, fingers crossed this show airs. I'm hoping it does because it was a good one. It was a great time. And I think it's important for people to see more to Taylor and more to the guys as well. Perfect. Thank you so much. We had so much fun. And like we said, hopefully it won't be the last.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Today's guest is 28-year-old accounting executive from San Francisco. Ron, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Yay. I'm so happy to be here. We're happy to have you. And like we said, we have kind of just been checking. in with all the guys and we know it's been just, you know, the past few weeks have been crazy and feel free to share, you know, how you have been feeling with the news around the show.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah, it's obviously been a lot this month. This has been a project that everyone's work, guys, the production team, the fans have been waiting on for like six or something months. So I definitely feel for everybody, especially like Taylor, like this is like a tough situation to be. in. And yeah, I just feel for for everybody that's kind of involved in it. It's like it's a really crappy situation to to be in. My personal feelings on it, I think it's, it's, I think my situation is a little bit different because like I know people have said like, oh, this is like they're wrong, but people have said things like, oh, these guys are are being cry babies. they're just like, they're, they're just here for the cloud, all of that.
Starting point is 00:33:33 From the guys that I met, I think for the most part, these guys are all very, very genuine. And I'm sure that's like a part of it of the show is the visibility that you get with it. I think I'm for sure not in that category because two things. One, I didn't sign up for it myself. So my mom was the one that signed me up. I had no idea she was doing this. It was like a very last minute. last minute thing.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So this is, I didn't wait my job for this. It's like a side quest that happened last year. So that's number one. And then two, because I didn't, or number two, like, I don't have any kind of entrepreneurial social media background. I started using Instagram like two years ago. So the post that you see there is a post that I have. I don't have aspirations to be a personal trainer or like an influencer.
Starting point is 00:34:23 What you see there. I was private for forever. So what you see there is for my friends. And that's, that's, but people are been ripping it apart. Like, what does this? What does this be? Like, it's not, it's kind of funny because, like, they don't know who I am, but it's literally my, my, my posts.
Starting point is 00:34:38 But that's my background. So it's, it's very hard to make the claim that I went on the show for, for, for cloud or, like social media or anything like that. But I definitely feel for the rest of the guys because it knows it affects them a little bit differently. Yeah. I think even just talking about the show in general, I always say, when I got done filming. I didn't think it was real. And I couldn't comprehend that that had just happened to me.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So for that and that experience to happen for you, like for all of you and then for it not to come to light, it is definitely disappointing. But your cast sounds so incredible. You guys are just all outstanding. So we want to talk a little bit about you. Obviously you told us that this kind of just fell into your lap, but walk us through what you do for work and kind of a little bit about you. The work piece is funny. I remember I remember coming in and meeting all the guys and obviously like personally, he's like, oh, where are you from? Like, what do you do for a living? And we were going round by round, like, across the room.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And I was like, I feel pretty good about my job. I'm like proud of what I do. I like what I do. Then you hear, you hear them go one by one. It's like, oh, I'm a professional baseball player. Like, okay, maybe that's a one off. That's one guy. Second guy, I'm a cowboy.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I work in a ranch. It's number two. I'm a country singer. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm an account, I'm an account executive. I felt so small. I love my job, but like I, I, there's a lot of acronyms in my job and it's very hard to explain.
Starting point is 00:36:04 But I, I, I'm in software sales. I am an S. There's a lot of acrony acronyms, but I'm Smba AE at a B to C CRM company. Oh, wow. If you know what I'm talking about, you need to go outside and touch some grass. like oh my gosh it's it's nobody like nobody knows sometimes we don't even know what what we're doing but there's a lot of stuff I like it though but yeah that the job part is definitely definitely interesting oh my goodness okay so tell us how night one was for you like coming in meeting all
Starting point is 00:36:38 the guys obviously you guys obviously took some time to share job descriptions so what was that dynamic like for you um I think from what I've heard from the other guys reactions to it and like they're feelings. I think we were all in the same boat. None of us had done this before. And yes, some of the guys have had like social media exposure and all of that, but none of us have like done something like this for maybe like one other person. But we all had the same fears. Like are like, are we going to get along with all these guys or is it going to be some tension? It's inevitable that there's going to be some tension. We're scared of what Taylor was going to think of us. And then all of that kind of disappeared the second we met we met each other like at some point
Starting point is 00:37:25 everybody was just coming in and just like dapping each other like yo like you did like you're a like there was one point where we called out all the dads in the room and it was like which one which one of you guys is a dad and this guy's a dad this guy's a dad this guy's dad and we just started giving them a round of applause like good on you all sound like you all sound like good guys and I think also to like kudos to the to the casting team I think you guys like you guys chose these guys and either these guys were either already good dads or have the capacity to be good dads. So there's no chance you're not going to get like a good group of like really good, really good genuine guys. So overall, like I can't speak more on the guys' characters.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You guys have such an incredible cast. We've gotten the opportunity to speak with everyone and just upstanding men. But of course, this is a show about love. So going into this, what was your prior relationship? history like we know you had a pretty serious relationship before. Very serious. So I've had three girlfriends my whole life. First one is an eighth grade that lasted three months. And then the second one was from sophomore high school till three years ago, nine years. And then a 10-month one. So serial monogamous. Like I kind of know relationships really well.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Wow. So what was it? I guess what were some things that you were looking for going into the Bachelor experience and specifically like with Taylor. Did you know anything about Taylor coming into filming this show? Did you look her up? No. So I like most of the guys, I don't watch reality TV too much. So I didn't know too much about her.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I did do a quick Google search. But it was all like within the day. I got interview. I get the text message from from production or that, from the casting team, did the interview, and then a couple, like a week later, it was like, hey, you're going, this is the person. Like, here you go.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Just a quick Google search, like very basic stuff, but I did know about, I did know about the kids, I know that she's famous, and I know about her challenges in the past. And it's not like, I'm not gonna act like surprise, like, oh, I did, just simple Google search, you can find that. And I saw that and I was like,
Starting point is 00:39:47 I have a list of things that I look for it. I look for in a partner. Like previous problems, I'm never going to not pursue somebody or not like get to know somebody based on like one or two things from the past. Like I don't know this person. This could have been a million things. If you could only judge me or like with the one or two mistakes that I made no matter how big they are, you're missing out on the rest of me.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So my idea with anybody, including her is like I don't want to miss out on on getting to know this person because of these like one or two. things. So I'd rather, I'd rather just find out for myself and see, see what happened. So I was very open to somebody, somebody like that. And also the kids, I think that it's funny that the kids was like the biggest, the biggest things, like, are you ready to take on, take on kids? There's a very specific skill set for that. One of the things I told, I told the producers in the interview process is like, I'm an immigrant child of, I'm the oldest of an immigrant family. there's certain for any older even older siblings would understand this kind of this kind of pressure
Starting point is 00:40:53 my parents raised me to replace them if anything were to happen to them so i've been ready to to be my younger i have a younger brother who's only two and a half years younger than me but i've been ready to step into my parents like role since i was like eight a lot of pressure it's a lot of pressure but yeah i'm lucky to have those skills at a relatively like young young age and and know know that I'm confident in that part, so the kids part isn't, isn't what matters. Like, that would also be something that doesn't sway me away from somebody. It's like, all right, if this person is amazing, but they have kids, like, I'm not going to miss out on that, on that person either. Like, I don't want to miss. My, my philosophy with, like, with, with dating is,
Starting point is 00:41:36 like, when I'm, like, 60 years old or whatever, and I look back at my life to see the people that I've encountered, I never want to look back and and have somebody to me like, oh, you actually ran into the person that you were supposed to be with. But because they had anxiety issues, you missed out on them. So I try to decrease, I try to decrease as many of the things as possible that I can be compatible. I'm compatible with a lot of people. And so I will never miss out on my side. Now I get, which is great, like I get to choose who I want to be with. And it's not going to be kids it's not going to be distance it's not going to be that that stops me from finding my person so very open to it what are some of those qualities that if you had to design your perfect partner that
Starting point is 00:42:24 you would really want in a in a way love that question i get that a lot i have a list perfect we'd love to hear it i'm like read i love a man who's a list yeah he's like everybody here it is this is good you can screenshot it like i'll text it to you guys right now but um There's a lot on this list because I get asked this question a lot. I also am a big fan of journaling and getting these ideas down because otherwise these are just ideas like it kind of gets lost in your head. Now that I haven't listed out, it become more concrete of what I'm what I'm looking for. And the non-negotiables, it's I think, Charity, you mentioned this on the on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's like the stuff that I was looking for, which is like self-overiness, which is like big, big for me. And when I read this list out to people, it's like, It's like, oh, that's like bare minimum stuff. Not everybody has. Like, they sound like very basic. These sound like very basic things, but it is like super hard to just have them, like, right out the gates. Like, you either have to have a, like, perfect childhood and not experience any trauma
Starting point is 00:43:29 or have gone, have been going through therapy. Like, I did the, I did the ladder, just going through a lot of, a lot of therapy. So some of the things I look for, self-awareness. Number one, like, you better know yourself, like, How can you integrate with my life if you don't know who you are? Number two, kindness. Number three, self-love takes care of themselves really well. Number four, sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That one's really, really important. We have to be laughing. Like, if we're going to be, if I marry you today, I think in terms of decades, if I can't be laughing with you when we're 50 and 60 years old, that's probably not my like forever, forever person. And then the last piece is resilience and grit. Like forever is a really long time. I don't think people can grasp how long forever is.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Correct. Like, I mean, you know, you did, you did it. You're like, let's do this. You do this forever, you know? But people can't, because most, at this age, most folks have their longest relationship is maybe two to three years. It's like a college, college romance or whatever. And then they're like, screw it, we're here, let's get married.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And they don't know what the rest of their lives look like. My last relationship is 10 years. Like, you have like a decade. Like, I know what stuff works. in a 10-year relationship and what stuff would have carried us till we died, and I know what stuff didn't work. And so, like, resilience, resilience is one of those. Like, we're going to face so many things in our lives, like the passing of parents, um, for one of them. You're, like, the partner that you choose is going to be the person that guides you do the death of your parents, like deep stuff,
Starting point is 00:45:04 like loss of children, like family members, accidents. Um, like, you need somebody that can, with, stand in that. And so that's like something I'd look for like very like very deeply. And that's the that's the non-negotiables. Yeah. That's a beautiful list. Hi-heart Radio wants to send you and a friend to experience Luke Colmes. When the sky is blue. Live in Montreal. With a thousand dollars cash backstage passes and his new album on final to get you ready for the show. flights and two nights from tripcentral.ca. The smarter way to book travel. Download the free IHeartRadio app.
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Starting point is 00:50:13 We know that you did this show for your mom and she was the one who nominated you for this. So we are so sorry to hear about your mom's recent passing. But can you just kind of walk us through, you know, how you got here and, you know, the inspiration behind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's so much like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Whatever you're comfortable with. I know one of the questions, it's funny, like one of the questions was. was what is like one of your biggest fears and it's public speaking. And it's because I get nervous. And I've learned from a communications class that the only reason you're nervous is because you don't know what you're talking about or you're not confident in what you're talking about. So if there's anything in my life that I can talk about, like confidently with my chest to like thousands of people, how amazing my mom is and how much I love her.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Like if there's anything. It's okay. I'm going to cry. Yeah, it's it's tough. It's a tough situation, but, like, it's beautiful in a way. Like, I see loss like this as a privilege. It's, there's a Winnie the Pooh quote that I really like that deals with something like grief. I think it goes something along the lines of how lucky am I to have something worth losing.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Like, I'm the pain that I feel is because I. suffered a great loss and like I will take this part in in tandem with with all the love that I've gotten from my mom so she's something someone very special to me it's made me the man that I am today it's the reason why you guys casted me like does she like I I know love in inside and out because I've received it for damn near 30 years of my life unconditionally from her like boat loads both loads of it. And I have, now I can give it to myself, can give it to a partner, can give it to friends. Like, I have a ginormous heart because of her. So everything that I am, I'm the best parts of my mom. And so losing her is, is very painful, but it's like a part of life. And
Starting point is 00:52:24 if this is, I said this in the post I had, but this is a cost of loving my mom. Like, I would pay this every single time. Like, without a doubt, I would pay this every single time. And I wish I could just like I'm very emotionally mature and I know how I've suffered loss before. I know how to handle this. I can't even do that right now. Like I haven't had the time to do it. Because it happened for one, it happened in the Philippines and there's an open case with it. So I can't disclose like too, too many details. But the lawyers are involved. There's an open investigation. Like losing a parent is already hard enough. Now you have to deal with a a legal case. Like the last time I talked to my mom was literally talking about the show. The we had just been announced and I was texting her. She, I was like, I'm so nervous that I have screenshots of it, but I was like, I'm so nervous, but thank you so much. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:23 I love you mom for signing me up for this. And her last, her message to me back was like, I'm so nervous too and I love you and I and I'm really excited for this. And then FaceTime her a couple of times trying to plan the premiere. I'm like, I'm like, are you going to be here on the 22nd? We're booking out of place in San Francisco. My coworkers want to know. Like there's a lot of fans at my job of the show. Like, it's going to be, all my friends are super excited.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I was like, in my invite, my mom is like the star of the show. Like, don't act a fool. My mom, my mom is coming. Like, my mom is gonna be here. So she's the start. Like you can't love me as person if you don't also like love my mom. Like my mom is a reason why I'm like this. And so I tell her to,
Starting point is 00:54:07 like we're trying to plant stuff and she tells me she's going to the Philippines. I'm like, okay, for what she's going. I'm getting, I'm getting cosmetic surgery done. Like, I don't, I don't know much about cosmetic surgery. I know about fillers and Botox. I'm like, all right, it's probably going to be something. Whatever. I face time her post surgery.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Like, what I saw was like, oh my God, this is more serious than thought she said she lost a lot of blood, all this stuff. I don't go into the details. And then next thing I know, next thing I know, I get a call. I get a call at 3 a.m. from my uncle and my stepdad crying, their eyes out, wailing. And they didn't have to tell me what happened. I didn't have to know. I knew what happened.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I turned off the phone after five seconds, pried my eyes out for like an hour. And then went straight to the Philippines and been dealing, I'm collecting evidence now or a case. So everything's been put on pause. And like the main takeaway that I want everyone to kind of take away from this is like I'm like I still think it's like a it's like a privilege that I'm willing to go to two things like one like how privileged am I to be like the person designated to handle something like this like my family my friends they're just like one of my one of my close friends said something that that gave me a lot of confidence he was like this is an insane thing to to go through. but if anybody can handle it like it's you. And I love that I'm the one that's designated to deal with it. So that's a privilege. And then number two, it's a, again, it's a privilege to care this much about somebody
Starting point is 00:55:47 that I'm willing to go through this really hard thing and be able to handle it, handle it well. So I don't want people to feel like super bad. Like yes, this is a really crappy situation, but I'm in a way like I'm lucky and I feel privilege to be able to do this for my mom. So we're high hopes. Like, we're going to get through this, but that's, that's, yeah, that's kind of my piece on my mom. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for sharing all of that. I can't imagine, but the way you're talking about, it's, it's very heavy. Yeah. Just the way you talk about your mom is like making me tear up. As sad as it is, it's why you watch movies, you don't watch, you don't watch movies to feel good the whole time. You have to,
Starting point is 00:56:30 experience the loss part to have it resonate. And that's why I'm very genuine about the way I speak and I'm a very genuine person because that's what people connect to. Like I'm sure you guys thought about your parents as well, which is like a good thing. So. Yeah. I mean, of course, just want to offer my deepest condolences charity bachelor's nation as well. And I bet, well, I know your mother is so proud of you for taking this journey. I know this is something that you guys shared together, and it is so beautiful hearing you just talk about her and your relationship. So thank you again, yeah, for sharing with us. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I appreciate it. Do you mind me asking, is there any, like, awareness you want to bring to this? Or is that something that you are hopeful to do in the, like, future as you're obviously going through this? That's, like, probably the one thing I'll ask, I'll ask for is just visibility. on this is like because how this would typically happen is that once the media stops covering it, especially if they've been affected in some way to not cover this, the case just gets lost in bureaucracy, bureaucracy, you get lost in paperwork and my mom gets forgotten. And I'm not letting that happen. My mom deserves more than that. Basically, the only story that I've been told is
Starting point is 00:57:57 she went here for a surgery. We made an oopsie. Here's the rest of her bill. I got the rest of her bill for the surgery after she died, which is insane. Yeah, it's insane. So just visibility and keeping an eye out. Honestly, this might be on the news, so it might not even be hard to follow up with it. But yeah, just like I'll keep talking about my mom as much as much as I can.
Starting point is 00:58:24 So it's not going to be hard. but follow along with that no matter in what shape or shape that takes. But yeah, that's all I could ask for. Yeah. We are here for you. Please let us know if there's anything or any other ways that we can help you and support you in this, truly. This was more than I could ask for, just giving me a platform to talk about me, my story
Starting point is 00:58:47 and my mom and for you guys to be so willing to listen to something so heavy. I really appreciate you guys and giving me the platform to talk. talk about this. So thank you. Yeah. No, absolutely. And I hope you know that Bachelor Nation, everyone is here for you. We truly are a family. I know we say that all the time, but you are a part of the family. So whatever else you need. Before we transition, I do, I think, you know, obviously, I'm curious, why did your mom sign, sign you up for this? Is she the end of the show? She loves the show. I've been watching her watch the show since she was, since I was like 12. there's there's like I'm not exaggerating this there are two things three things in my life that my mom
Starting point is 00:59:29 needed to see that I knew she wanted to see one and two is meet my wife and meet my grandkids and meet my kids meet my grandkids the third is to see me on the show or see me in some kind of dating show that is literally the third I'm not exaggerating this my mom loves this show and she was starting to worry about my dating life a little bit so she decided to take actions into her own hands she's like I want to meet my grandkids. Like, you're not. I don't know. I don't know if she didn't think I was doing well, but she was like, let me help you up.
Starting point is 00:59:58 But yeah, my mom, my mom is a really big, big fan of the show. I'm actually thinking of getting a rose tattoo because symbolizes love. And she's like, this is like one of the coolest things I've ever done. And my journey in this is attached to her. So if you guys know any fine line artists, let me know. It'll be my first tattoo. I love that. Well, I'm glad, if anything, that just being on the show will give you the platform and the visibility that you need to get justice for her, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So we are thinking about, I'm like, I just, I cannot believe that this could be something that you could be going through. And yeah, just any way we could help. Just please let us know. Yeah. Yeah. Just tell your parents, I love you. is the thing like call them after this this call oh i will i'm trying not to cry right now i'm like truly you take it for granted until until it's there but tell them you love them tell them
Starting point is 01:01:01 thank you for raising you because you guys seem you guys seem great and i'm sure they don't hear that enough oh thank you okay it doesn't feel right to play a game at all no oh my god can't do no we'll do i think i think it'll be it'll be real real as as you're asking these questions while you're crying If you have a makeup team, makeup it's great. And I think I ruined it. No, absolutely not. If anything, I'm like, it just is bringing, you know, the feels, which is good.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You know, feeling vulnerable and sharing something that's so vulnerable. Like, I think like you said, it's just something that we all need to, like, just be reminded of. And I appreciate just even this time, this day, you giving us that. So thank you. As deep as I am, I'm also so unserious. And like, love. When you ask me these questions, it's not going to seem like I just talked about the heaviest, heavy things.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, I will answer these questions. Okay. Very fully. We love that. We get to see two sides to you. So very fun. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's called hot seats. It's basically just rapid fire prompt. So again, just showcasing your personality, answer what's top of mind, make it fun. Yes. Okay. So the first one is, what are some of your favorite Filipino dishes? Layup, fantastic. Karekare, which is my number one, which is an oxdale peanut butter stew.
Starting point is 01:02:26 One of the main ingredients is literally Jif, Jeff the peanut butter. It sounds insane. You have to try it. It's like a very underrated very low-key Filipino, like food. Number two is SISG, which is kind of like street food. It's common when you're drinking. You call it Pulutan, which is Filipino food that you eat with drinking. There's a word for it. It's called pollute.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I love eating that. And then number three, Aroscaldo, which I make for my friends all the time. It's like this porridge. I thought this interview was going to be personal. I was going to make it for you guys. Oh, I wish it was. I know. Next time. We always say that. We're like, it needs to be in person. Like the next time that happens, I will make it for you guys. And it's going to change your lives. Oh, my God. Okay. Can't wait. Need to try it.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Okay. Who is your celebrity doppelganger? Okay, I get this one. Like, you got to hold on. You got to hang on with me for a minute. But this is the one I get the most often, like, the most often. But Robert Pattinson. Okay, I can kind of see it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:03:41 People tell me I look like an Asian, Asian Robert Pattinson. I've been getting that since Twilight. Like, they got to add the Asian in there, obviously. That's a good one. I love me some Twilight, Robert Pattinson. Yeah, yeah. So I remember when girls were telling me that in middle school. And I was like, so you think I'm cute is what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Like, I was dead, Medford, Colin. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like that. And that's the one I get the most often. The thing about this show, if it airs, they will tell you who you look like. I didn't know who I looked like until I went on this show. So maybe we'll find another one. Meryl Streep is my number one.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Okay. Meryl Streep, Sarah Jessica Parker. I see them. Yeah. I see it. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yes. but they will tell you so we'll keep in mind Robert and then see if any others come along. I don't know. I'm kind of going like cartoon. I'm thinking like Elsa from from. Oh, I love Elsa. Yeah. I need the braid.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. Well, you do have long hair, Rachel. Kay will have to do a side by side for our army. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So the next one is we know you love in and out. What is your go-to order? Let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:04:51 My go-to order at In-N-Out is a double-double animal style, root beer, and for the fries, extra well-done, animal style as well. And then when I'm cutting, I'll do protein style. I'll hate it a little bit, but that it gets better than the nothing. And then I have tried, like, the four-by-four. Oh, my God. I just felt, I just felt off. It just, it tasted the same. I don't know why I thought it was going to take different.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It was like, oh, there's four patties on there. Maybe it's going to say it could be fier. No, I just felt awful about myself afterwards. But stick to two patties. Love the animal style. I actually had identical orders, except I just don't get animal style in my fries. But I do love a double double animal style, which is crazy. You haven't, you haven't done that or?
Starting point is 01:05:40 No, I haven't had animal style fries. I just don't. I like my fries, like you said, well done, just plain. Like, I just need them play. You have to get them extra well done because the animal style will make them soggy. I was going to say I have unpopular opinions, but in and out, I don't love their fries. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Oh my God. I do. Do you love? I do. You do? Okay. I'll be alone in my opinion. In my wrong opinion.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Well, what's your go to then? If I hear any, like, fast food, like. I honestly don't eat in it out that much, but I do love, love the little animal style, like on one. And then I'm like, I'm good on the front. No, like, where's, where do you go get fried? This is more important to me than, like, horoscopes. I think the best prize is McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It's so... That's fair. You're done. Let me add. My list. Okay. What's going on my list? Charity.
Starting point is 01:06:29 You have the last question. Your cancer, Rachel. Bye, bye. It's going on my list. Now, Donald's fries are good, but I wouldn't... You know, it's like in and out. If they're, yeah, they're fresh out of in and out, I'm like, it's just, I don't know. There's something different about them, but they're amazing.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Okay. I feel like your last meal, your last meal is kind of suspicious, too. I don't even want to expose you like that. I'm screaming. I feel like it can be like Wendy's or something. No, probably. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'm leaving the conversation. Rachel's like ducking. She's like slowly getting out of frame. I'm like, I wish I never shared this opinion. I'm sorry. Share it on the side. Share it on it. We'll make fun of the side.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Let's do our last one. Okay. What is the coolest thing you can make with the origami? The orchids. Like that. Wow. Now it was hard. A water balloon, which sounds impossible.
Starting point is 01:07:18 possible. You can make one. Yeah, I'm like what? How is that possible? I don't remember. It's like very old. I haven't done origami in a really long time. But the orchid is probably like the hardest, the hardest one that I can do. And it's the prettiest. That's why I learned I learned how to do it. And it's work. Amazing. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yes. Truly this interview. I mean, I think there's so much going on. We've done a lot of these interviews and it all seems, you know, when you you put the bigger things into perspective what actually matters. So this, thank you again, has been just so eye-opening and anything we could do to help you.
Starting point is 01:07:57 But before we go, is there anything that you want to leave Bachelor Nation with or anything that they can do to help you? Yeah. Yeah, just keep up with me and this case. It's like there's no other objective in my life besides this. No work thing. nothing everything is on pause until this gets done this is the most important thing to me i think it's like a beautiful story to follow anyways so i think people will naturally gravitate towards it
Starting point is 01:08:25 but literally just like have some awareness around that um like love your parents like you there's a song that there's a song i listen to that i think changes changes my mind about how i view my parents it's um it's called monsters i don't know if you guys know that song Monsters by James Blunt and I listened to the EM Tongi version a guy from American Idol. One of the lines in there is you're not my son
Starting point is 01:08:55 or I'm not your son, you're not my father. We're just two grown men saying goodbye. Like get to know your parents. Get to know your parents. You'll regret it when they're in their deathbed and you don't know them besides your mom. Like my mom was great. She was amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:13 but I got to know Christina, like, as a person. And I think everybody deserves to get to know their parents as, like, the people that they are besides the whole parent thing. So, yeah. Beautiful. That's beautiful. Where can we find you on socials? I have once I have a LinkedIn and an Instagram.
Starting point is 01:09:35 So probably Instagram at Ron T. Perez. It's the only one, only one that I have. Okay. we will all go do our mission and follow you and keep up with you and support you. Thank you guys so much. Along this journey, of course. Thank you guys so much. Sorry for making you pry in the middle of that.
Starting point is 01:09:53 No, never apologize. I'm like as much as I'm like, I hate crying. I love it because it's just so freeing at the same time. So thank you for making me feel the things today. And again, sharing your. I was lying. I didn't feel bad. I'm so glad you guys connect with that and cried.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I don't feel bad. Sharing your story to do. I'm so glad you guys are thinking about your parents right now and all that stuff. No, I'm literally going to call them. They're going to be like, what? Yes. No, thank you again. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 01:10:21 This was such a beautiful conversation. And hopefully we get to see you and the show comes out and everything is amazing moving forward. And we get to have you on Happy Hour again. Thank you all for joining us for today's episode. We are so grateful for you all and always to have just a safe space in a community for us. to share important stories. To our listeners, thank you. Make sure you are rating, reviewing, and subscribing wherever you're listening to podcasts
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