Bachelor Happy Hour - Break the Cycle | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions and helping you break some toxic cycles! We kick off with our question of the day: What’s a bad habit you&rsquo...;ve kicked and how did you do it? Then, we get into your questions! Whether it’s constantly going back to an ex or taking on your parents’ toxic traits, you asked and we’re here to help! Plus, we end today’s episode with a game of Dealbreakers: Friendship Edition. Would these situations be friendship breakup-worthy for Kathy and Susan? Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
Starting point is 00:00:17 and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she's going to keep it a century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them, and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:38 or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people.
Starting point is 00:01:00 with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab,
Starting point is 00:01:20 every case has a story to tell. And the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, got you. This technology is already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics.
Starting point is 00:01:44 On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst Candace Parker, who gives insight into her candid new book, including why she waited two years into marriage to come out. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode is politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance brof trying to tell us how to spend our own money?
Starting point is 00:02:17 No thank you. Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I feel you. like on Fridays when I take your questions for the BAQA. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us today. We're so excited to be back. It's another beautiful day.
Starting point is 00:02:57 with Susan and me chatting about God knows what. And we love getting together like this and hearing from everybody and talking about, you know what? What? Us. And Bachelor World and the questions that we get. I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:16 today we're going to do more of it. I love it. I love it. I don't you feel good, though, that people actually want to hear us talk? Yes, yes, yes. And talking to Gary, I mean, that episode was good. That was really good.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So everybody makes sure you're still submitting because not only do we like doing it, so do our guests. I mean, they get into it, right, Kat? Yeah, I love it. And you know how? Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. And that's all you have to do. That's all you have to do.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You can send it all to us, your questions, your updates, your request for dates with Susan or me, all of it. We're still waiting. All of it. You can also DM us, by the way, on Instagram. Bachelor Happy Hour. So feel free to do that as well. Sounds good to be. Okay, Kathy, you know what time it is. Let's get into today's episode. And what are we start? I thought you were going to say it's cocktail time. No, it's not. It's question of the day time. Question of the day. Have you ever
Starting point is 00:04:14 had to break out of a bad habit, whether it's biting your nails or repeating generational curses, and how did you do it? Okay, what's the bad habit you've broken, Susan? Tell me. I don't know that I ever fully break them. I should do something. Bad habit was I was addicted to potato chips and I gave it up for
Starting point is 00:04:37 last year and I succeeded. Oh, but you've been eating potato chips. It's a new year. It's a new lent. It's a new lent. I never was a nail biter. Can I tell you? The hardest thing for me was
Starting point is 00:04:52 smoking and it still will hit the bait it you try but you fight it okay can i tell a horrible story but you have to start off good today ladies you please bachelor nation do not right in time i'm a terrible mother i have no judgments it's going to be everyone's going to judge me but i'm going to my son my middle son the one that you married they just had their first anniversary kyle and candy wish them a happy anniversary did you oh i bet they love that so When Carl was a kid, he bit his nails down to the quick. I'm just going to start by telling you, he still bites his nails down. Like, I can't even look at his hands.
Starting point is 00:05:34 It's so bad. So I decided, because I was crazy, not really, but I did this. Are you ready? I painted his nails with nail polish. It burns, right? No, a colored nail polish. and made him go to school. Kathy?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Go ahead and write in. Thanks a lot, friend. What color, pink? No, I don't remember. I think it was like, you know. Tell me why. What did that? Because I read somewhere.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It wasn't me being like, you know, vicious, horrible mother, although I was. I didn't mean to be. I read somewhere. I just had nail polish. I don't remember what color was. I didn't go out and say, you know, what's the most garish color I can buy and stick it on his fans, but I read somewhere that if you put nail polish on a kid's nails, the taste they won't bite their nails.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So I thought, okay, well, I didn't think it through, clearly. How old was he? 18. That's good, yeah. I'm joking. He was like in second grade or third grade. Anyway, it was awfully, to this day, Kyle, if you're listening, I still apologize. I hope you have forgiven me.
Starting point is 00:06:52 um you know his nails i know it's awful please don't write in can i just say one thing couldn't you've used clear he's a boy in school clear what it works it didn't work that's what i'm telling you it he bit it all off i mean i probably poisoned he probably poisoned him anyway but there are things out there that you put on a nail to help people yeah well whatever it is trust and believe me it did not work he still chompson his own i can say for myself my worst habit. I know, I'm embarrassed. Please don't write mean things in. I really have guilt over it. I have one too. My worst habit is interrupting. I think that is my worst habit. I've had guys I've dated. Now I'm so much more aware of it. What I try to do, and I know you and I
Starting point is 00:07:42 interrupt each other on the podcast, but we've gotten better. I really try to wait until the person stops talking and you know sometimes they're just taking a breath but it's really hard to cure a bad habit it certainly is
Starting point is 00:08:00 okay what's your story and for me it was listening I am now way more in tune because and then you know when someone's talking and the thought comes to your head
Starting point is 00:08:12 they trigger something you want to blur it out yes I try to work on it every day slow your role. My fear is, and the reason I believe that I've learned out is, because I'm going to forget. That's why I interrupt Susan. Yes, exactly. I'm going to forget. And how many times when you and I are on the phone, you know, we'll have a four-way call going with Nancy and Joan and whoever else? And then I won't. I'll say, I'm not going to interrupt. And then you'll say,
Starting point is 00:08:40 something to say, okay, Kathy, what did you want to say? I don't remember. Or I'll say, Excuse me. Can I get this out because if I don't say it now, it's never going to happen. But no, I remember as a child, like I was a bedwetter. Oh, me too. Where are you? I absolutely wasn't until I was about 12 or 12, probably 12. I don't know that it was me that broke that habit or my mom beat the shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I don't know. No, that's not a habit, wetting the bed. Well, it was. No, it's not, that is not a habit. What are their habits? It's not a habit. Running late. Wait, listen to me.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Wait, I'm going to interrupt. It's going to teach me about habits. If you sit on your bed and say, I think I'll pee on my bed. That would be a bad habit. If you are asleep, dead sleep, and you pee, it's because it's not a habit. Your body can't wake up. You don't have the maturity. So that's not a bad habit.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So we must not have any bad habits, Kathy. I interrupt. And you people out there, what are your bad habits? And how did you overcome them? Yeah, please let us know. What is the bad habit you have? And again, no comments about my son. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:55 He's happily married. That was so cute, though. She didn't even think of clear. Why would she think of that? You know, I just started wearing nail polish myself a few years ago. I don't like to get ahead of myself. I made you get the nails. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Because now you were enslaved to it. But your hands look beautiful. Thank you. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place. The turfs. And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo,
Starting point is 00:10:46 to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them, and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane. and all of a sudden you hear this.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this,
Starting point is 00:11:33 do this, pull that, turn this. It's just... I can do my ice close. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devon. And on our new show, no such thing. we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise
Starting point is 00:11:49 lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then, as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to no such thing on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:12:05 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enia Jumanzo. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker,
Starting point is 00:12:50 who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Honey German. And my podcast, Grasias Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real stories of. failure and success. You were destined to be a star. We talk all about what's viral and trending
Starting point is 00:14:11 with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing Vibras you've come to expect. And, of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But the whole pretending and coat, you know, It takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. We're going to get into our fan questions today. I'm going to read the first one. I can't wait. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:50 The first one is from Tanya. Hi, ladies. I need some advice. My best friend is a serial dater. And I really think it's Wayne on her mental health. We're both 28 years old, and she's never been single. I wouldn't be concerned if she just happened to find really great guys, but that's not the case. These relationships always end up sucking the life out of her, and she just jumps into another one instead of healing from the last.
Starting point is 00:15:18 How do I help her break out of this? You can't. I was going to say let's say it in unison. One more time. You can't. She's trying to want to do it herself. I mean, you could bring light to it and remind her. I mean, Kathy, you yourself said to me about my choices or things like that, take a break.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah. Take a break and look at you. And as we both said, that show, the Golden Bachelor, when I went on there, because I was on all kinds of dating sites and such, that show cured me. Not forever, but, you know, I stopped looking. Yeah. I was okay with me and the beautiful new friendships I have. And I just pause. Well, that's because you had the life lesson, Susan. That's the point here. That is the point. I think this girl, Tanya, your friend, it's about her. It's not even about the guys. The guys could be the most fabulous men on the earth. It's not about them. It really is about her. For whatever reason, she can't be alone, is afraid to be alone. Isn't a complete person. person finds her completeness in a man instead of finding her completeness in herself and then looking for a man to compliment her. You know, it's her problem to figure out. So maybe my suggestion
Starting point is 00:16:41 would be maybe you could have those kinds of conversations with her. You know, what's wrong? Why do you not feel complete? Maybe you need to look at that aspect. And Tanya, Tanya's saying she really thinks it's weighing on her mental health, the girlfriend's mental health. Yeah. And that's all you have to bring up. Like, I'm noticing this is ruining you. It's stressing you out. Take time for you. And Tanya, I would say.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And she'll just say five words and it'll be done. Bing, bang, boom. Bada bade a bang, back. Wait, I was going to say, if these guys, they're 28, unfortunately, I was going to say, could she send some of her surplus my way? I want to know how she gets one really quick right after the other one. Yeah. Tanya, you're a good friend.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Let us know what happens. have the conversation with her. Yes. But in the end, she has to want to stop being a serial date her and figure out what's going on in her own life. Yes, she does. But thank you. And let us know.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah. We can't take her leftovers, Scouts. Do you? Okay. The next one. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I'm freaking out. L.
Starting point is 00:17:50 O.L. The other day, I was in a tiff with my boyfriend. Suddenly, I caught myself using the same tactics that my mom. mom used to use on me when I was a teenager. I love my mom and I think she's great. But this made me realize that I'm doing a lot of the things I once resented her for. I said I'm just going to go. During that tip and flashback to when I was a kid and she would say that to me, it made me sick to my stomach. How do I avoid becoming just like my mom when it comes to the negative quality? I observed of her.
Starting point is 00:18:31 They might not be negative, girlfriend. That might just be a light lesson. I gave me joy the day my daughter called me up and said, Mom, thank you. Thank you. And I hear her doing the same things. I will tell you, I did not want to be like my mother. Because my mother was not the nicest person on the planet.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And so I just, to answer, the simple answer here is, how do you avoid becoming just like your mom? Well, like Susan said, maybe some of her qualities are good. If the qualities are negative and you really think they're negative, think they're negative, think before you speak. You speak. Think before you act. You know, we've heard this how many times in our life if we all would just stop and think first.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Kathy, I still try. I mean, I still do it. I get it. Yeah. You just pause, yes. But I will agree with Susan. My daughter, since she, or my youngest granddaughter, is almost two years old.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I have become much smarter in my daughter's eyes over the last two years. It's amazing. They say that your IQ diminishes not. In my daughter's eyes, mine is just escalated. Two years ago, I got smart. I don't know what to say about that. And, you know, I noticed that she said she resented her mom
Starting point is 00:19:47 because of that, well, maybe you were doing things that you needed to be reprimanded for or talk to about, and you didn't like it. Just like your boyfriend, you've found. yourself saying because he did something that wasn't okay with you and like susan said maybe maybe mama knew exactly what she was saying rethink this one baby doll rethink it rethink it let us know and by the way if the boyfriend is not worth keeping don't try to drag out a thing that ain't worth keeping show them the door oh that had a little jingle to it right say here's a better jingle
Starting point is 00:20:26 here's your hat. What's your hurry? Don't let the door in the ass on the way out. I said that in the last one. I'm full of these little pithy quotes today. All right. Let's go on. Let us know how it goes though. All right. Question three is from Anonymous lady. And by the way, let me just take a minute here. Don't feel listeners that you have to say your name because any question you're asking, somebody else has the same
Starting point is 00:20:55 question. So feel free write in Anonymous. We'll be happy to answer your questions. Make up a name if you want to. We don't care. But we've had people say to us, I am so glad on episode such and such that they asked that question. That's something I really wanted to know, but never would ask. Yeah. So you help other people by asking. All right. So Anonymous asks, ladies, I need you to talk some sentence to me. Well, Anonymous, you have come to the right place. We are good talking. Why do I keep, why do I keep going back to my ex?
Starting point is 00:21:31 The sex isn't that great. I live in a big city and I'm young with no responsibilities. And yet, I keep going back to him. Why do you think I'm always falling back into his arms? He's just as guilty in terms of keeping that door open. But honestly, he's not always the one initiating. What can I do? to finally put an end to this.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Thank you. Well, can I just answer this real quickly? What you can do? Sure. What you can do real quickly is not go back. Tie your hands behind your back, put tape across your mouth, disconnect your phone. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:22:11 It's that easy. It's that easy. People are looking for. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Kathy. I just did it. I just interrupted, Kathy, but practice. That's all right. I was just going to say people look for like magical things. Why do you keep going back? Hell of I know. You're insecure. It's comfort. It's, you know, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. There's another pithy quote. Whatever it is, it's not healthy. So why do you keep doing it? You got me. Stop doing it. Also, well, first of all, the sex isn't great. I don't know why. But I'm just saying sometimes you have great sex with somebody and they're not in your life.
Starting point is 00:22:52 if you're not together anymore, but you visit that because it's comfortable, you know it. I can understand. That could be an excuse, if you will. But here, nothing's good. Sometimes people just don't want to be alone. But my main thing that hits me, why she shouldn't go back, is because you're not open for someone else. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. You have to close the door to be able to receive again and let somebody else in. But you know, what's interesting is she's the one. She said he's not always the one initiating. But the question is very simple. You ask, why do I keep going back to my ex? Because you think something is better than nothing. And as Susan just said, something is not always better than nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And sometimes you have to be alone for a spell so that you have time to open your heart and mind for something new. I think it's some insecurity here. You're afraid to be alone. I've been there. I've done it. I mean, I get nobody. I don't like being alone. We all would like to have that person to share a conversation with, dinner with a glass of wine with, all those things.
Starting point is 00:24:07 But sometimes you have to be alone and let your mind just be silent. And you're, you know, so that you are open to meeting that next person. Right? All right. West West, Prop here from Hood, Politician. with Prop Podcasts, you already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand
Starting point is 00:24:28 politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here, mandering all over the place, the turfs!
Starting point is 00:24:44 And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo. To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century.
Starting point is 00:24:59 In America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics
Starting point is 00:25:10 with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers, the pilot,
Starting point is 00:25:22 is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, until this. Do this. It's just, I can do it my eyes close. I'm Manny. I'm Noah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 This is Devon. And on our new show, no such thing. We get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then, as we try
Starting point is 00:26:00 the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your
Starting point is 00:27:10 constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high. because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it
Starting point is 00:27:34 will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin.
Starting point is 00:27:51 What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack,
Starting point is 00:28:31 where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, you know what, again, sometimes your brain, your mind, your body, you have to be silent and alone with your thoughts so that you can figure out how you got to where you got and how you want to plan your steps to get to where you want to be. I mean, it's just that simple sometimes. It is. It is. But we wish your luck and keep trying. You'll get there. Yeah. Well, no, don't keep trying. Uh-uh. Anonymous. Keep trying to avoid going back. No, don't keep trying. Oh, Gabby said just stop. Just stop.
Starting point is 00:29:17 that's right just do it just do it show them the door Nike set that's right show them the door and move on all right all right we're ready we've given all this great advice I think we should play a game of course you do I love games we love games this one is called deal breakers friendship edition because as everyone knows
Starting point is 00:29:38 Susan and I are very good friends we're going to read hypotheticals and then we're going to say if we think it's a deal breaker And I'm going to start with the first one, which is near and dear to us. Your friend shares a deep secret of yours with someone else after promising to keep it private. Guilty. I'm guilty. And I don't do it immediate on purpose.
Starting point is 00:30:07 It just ends up coming out sometimes. She never does it on purpose, but we've all worked with Susan. I've worked on it. I've worked on this. And we've also learned. have things we tell Susan and things we don't. And I ask them too. As you are about to say, please.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Please. No, don't tell me. Don't tell her. Because somebody else will call you and say, such and such, and I'll say, where did you hear that? Susan? Next phone call, Susan. Is it a deal? It's not with you because you're a dear friend, but is it a deal breaker for you?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Your friendship, no. It's not, you're disappointed and you talk to them and hope it doesn't happen again. I don't think it's a deal breaker. I mean, it's, I got to say, like, if there are other things about that person, I, you know, I, I didn't love. That could be the, that could be the straw that broke the Campbell's back. Yes, it's true. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Okay. They lied to you about something small, but you only find out much later. I mean, something small. I'm not. I know. What happens when you find out later, that seed was planted. it and then they trust things. You'll second guess
Starting point is 00:31:20 whether to trust somebody, but it's... I mean, why lie if it's small? Because it was just inconsequential. I mean, they probably didn't realize. I mean, if it's that small, I wouldn't, I'm sure I've lied, but it wasn't a lie. It was, it ultimately turned out to be a lie. Wait, I'm sure I lied, but it wasn't a lie.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'm saying. Give me an example of what you're thinking. you said to me, Kathy, what did, what did you do last night? And I'm just like, oh, I stayed home. I was home most of the night, you know, I, whatever. And I just, I didn't think about it. My neighbor popped over for a glass of wine to say a half an hour. Well, it turns.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's not a lie. It's just not giving them all the information. But I wouldn't call that lie. Well, right? I don't know. I don't like that one. All right. Let's move along then.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Go. Okay. You find out they've been secretly. hanging out with someone who openly dislikes you. That's in their life. You find out they're secretly hanging out with somebody that dislikes you? Yeah, so let's just say,
Starting point is 00:32:27 let's say, poor Nancy, we always use her as an example. Let's say, Nancy openly disliked me, which she doesn't, but let's say she did. And I find out that you're hanging out with Nancy. Well, so? Yeah, exactly. I said, who cares? You want to, you want to waste your time over that good for nothing, Nancy?
Starting point is 00:32:47 That's your problem. Okay, they date your ex without giving you a heads up. Ooh. Okay, you and I are going to disagree on this one. How long was the X number one? How long has he been an X? Is that what you're saying? If it's been years, I would still have to mention it.
Starting point is 00:33:07 If you're my friend, I'm going to say, you're not going to like this or I want to know how you feel about it. it, but I've been chatting with... I'm not. I mean, you and I have never dated the same man, but, you know, let's use Gary, since we had Gary on our podcast. Let's say you had dated Gary 10 years ago, and I met Gary, and I started dating him. I would not feel any compunction to tell you.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I would probably say... No, 10 years. That's what I'm saying. It depends on the... Now, if you had broke up, if you broke a... up with Gary three months ago and I started to him, oh yeah, I'm going to talk to you about it. That's girl code.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We agree. We agree. That's girl code. But if it's been a long time, yeah, who cares? Yeah, yeah. All right. What's the next one? Oh, look at the next one, Kath. They pretend they don't know you in front of guys. They have a crush on.
Starting point is 00:34:05 How weird is that? Why would you pretend you don't know something? I don't know. I would have to. That would be a deal. record because I would decide my friend is a weirdo. You got issues, yeah, that's issues. All right, they cancel.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, this one bugs the tar on me. They cancel plans with you last minute all the time, but never cancel on others. I have solved the solution for this. What do you do? I never ask them again. I literally, when someone cancels on me repeatedly, I don't invite them anymore. I don't invite them anymore. I don't.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I just don't invite them. write them anymore and i get constantly get my feelings are hurt you didn't even i said you know what it's an open invitation you want to come come but i am not singly inviting you because you always say yes oh my lord susan so many words so many words i see so many words i explain things oh lord i'm mighty you don't need just just don't do it remember nike just do it just do it two minutes ago. Now I'm saying, just don't do it. Don't invite.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Don't invite. And then if she calls and says, Susan, you're going out with all the girls. Oh, sorry, you want to come along? Come along. Don't say, I don't know. Because you never show them. No, they call and whine. My feelings hurt.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You never. I've been inviting you for 15 years. 15 years, you don't come twice and 15 years. I'm done. Okay. This is no pun intended. that they constantly interrupt you in conversations. And the second part is not you at all and never seemed to listen.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Let me just say, if that were true, you and I would not be friends. Yeah, exactly. And you know what? If somebody constantly interrupts, you bring it to their attention. That's all. And be kind because it's not a deal breaker. Well, oh, no, I've had, I had a guy that would, said he'd, true story. I met a guy.
Starting point is 00:36:08 This was probably, I don't know, a year and a half ago. After the show, really nice guy. And we dated. And when I get excited, I just, I'm just like a puppy dog. You know, I'm exuberant. Bubbly. Yeah. And bubbly, even more so than normally.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And I interrupted. And after like this, I was so excited about this guy. He said to me, you are beautiful, you're smart, you're fun. I love your sense of humor. But I can't deal with you interrupting. Yep. people are more sensitive to it yeah well you know what i figured this is what i told myself if that if that well it wouldn't work but also if that was enough that he didn't want to get to
Starting point is 00:36:51 know me anymore that he wasn't the right guy for me that's exactly right yeah that's exactly right they keep pushing you to do things they know you're uncomfortable with it's not a deal breaker it's not a deal we just say no If you're uncomfortable, well, you say, not interested. Or you just, you know, I mean, I push people to do things. And but usually they'll say something like, and not a bad thing. I mean, just something fun or whatever, but what I'll say is. Well, what's fun to you in your eyes.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Right. And that's exactly right. So that's exactly. They'll say something like Kathy, that's not something I want to do. And I say, but I want you to try it. I don't want to do it. Okay. Like I just, again, it's my puppy dog personality.
Starting point is 00:37:38 like try it you'll like it okay you lend the money and they never pay you back then act like it never happened there's no such a thing because i will tell them it happened and you're going to get on a scale i've had this happen many times i call them every payday it's a nightmare i'll tell you i don't lend money anymore because of this quick story i'm going to tell you a very uh she was in my wedding high school. We don't talk anymore. She, I won't, in case she's listening, she asked me to borrow a pretty good sum of money. And she said, I can pay it back to you in full in six weeks when I get, when I get my paycheck. I'm changing the timing a little bit just because I don't. And you're holding her word to that. And we'd known each other since high school. And we hadn't talked in many
Starting point is 00:38:34 years but we rekindle our friendship and we'd been you know we'd rekindle the friendship probably for a couple years when she asked me she's had a tough life uh she's had some you know and i i had a pretty blessed life so i said sure um my husband was still alive and he said but kathy we you've got to get that money back we can't give that kind of money i said she said she'll give it back in six weeks six weeks came and went i asked her two or three times it got really ugly I won't even tell you, she ultimately paid me back, but was really ugly about it. And it cost of friendship. And it was the beginning of the, so that, so now if I, if you call me Susan and say,
Starting point is 00:39:17 Kathy, can I borrow a hundred bucks? This was much more back. Exactly. I'm going to say, here you go, Susan, and hope I get it back. But if I don't, it's not going to ruin my friendship. But I don't lend. I'm making a practice not to really lend money anymore. I try not to too.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Unless it's my kids And then you call it a gift You never get it back You're not Christopher, he was pretty good It's a gift All right, go ahead They always tease you
Starting point is 00:39:43 In front of others And claim they're just joking But they never do it in private It's never a joke You've heard me before It's not fun I mean it depends on what you're teasing about No no
Starting point is 00:39:56 If you're teasing someone That other person probably feels self-conscious or uncomfortable so it's not a joke it's not funny it's just do i tease you don't i tease you yeah but not you're not cruel about it it's you don't tease me about something that i'm uncomfortable about if you there's things that you know uh i'll give you one example the world knows you don't tease me about my weight because you know that i'm uncomfortable about that you know i tease you about your sick and a head because you're so thin then you see something different.
Starting point is 00:40:32 No, you don't. No, I got you. You see, because it's not funny. You don't tease me about my belly roll. Listen, Susan. And I still wear a bikini. Susan gets to go to the beach and wear bikini. I have on bloomers in a long-sleeve shirt.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's pathetic. It's not true. Hey, everybody out there, are you enjoying this? I mean, we want to know what you think. I just can't believe that the time goes so quickly. Is there anything going on your life? We haven't had much catch up lately. Anything going on your life?
Starting point is 00:41:01 to talk about? I'm trying to heal from the surgery, but we both obviously had. Can I, can I, can I, can I tell the world what's really going on about your wrist? Are you going to yell at me? What's really going on? Yeah. Let me just say, let me just say, Susan, you can, you can argue. Get hiking boots. Well, yeah, we all know how it happened. She needs hiking boots. But here's the thing. As you all know, I broke my wrist the exact same way. When I broke my wrist, my doctor had it wrapped tightly, had me in a sling, said, don't, don't do anything that could hurt your wrist you know it's very delicate till the pins and everything heals can i tell you this girl it's got the sling off has had the bandage off has been out dancing
Starting point is 00:41:43 cleaning the house and she goes kathy my arm hurts so much it's swollen swollen yeah you know what i don't she doesn't follow doctor's orders and in fact she said to me i'm going to call the doctor i said why the hell would you call the doctor it the minute he says you know is it in a sling no are you using it too much insist the sling he didn't insist he told me to wear the sling if i was around a crowd of people hey susan you were out dancing two nights ago did you wear the sling no no she did not so it was sunday fun day it was just a couple hours and it was only a couple hours people could have so this is how susan's like that i'm sorry for myself god this sucks i don't not feel sorry for you not i want to see you do your hair your makeup take a
Starting point is 00:42:31 shower. This armpit over here, if somebody didn't come over and shave it, it would have really long hair. It's a nightmare, people. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, Susan does not follow the doctor's orders. I'm ratting you out to Bachelor Nation. We love you. Made to be broken. Anyhow. Rules are made to be broken. All right. I don't know what to say here. That is going to wrap it up. It's been so much fun. Please, thank you all for joining us. and absolutely absolutely and make sure to follow us on bachelor happy hour as you know we have new stuff coming out all the time and you don't want to miss it please please make sure you submit your questions to us perhaps some of you doctors out there would like to send her send her some
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