Bachelor Happy Hour - Brianna’s Got Main Character Energy

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

It's a celebration over here because an all-new season of “The Bachelor” kicked off this week, and we are starting out strong with America’s First Impression Rose winner, Brianna! Brianna dishes all about meeting Zach live on stage at “After The Final Rose,” receiving that first rose and of course all about night one in the Bachelor Mansion. Plus, she shares more on what went through her mind after stepping out of the limo, meeting the women of the house and so much more!Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Becca Kufrin. And I'm Michelle Young. And we are back again this week with the first episode of The Bachelor. It seems crazy that we're back. We just wrapped Paradise two months ago and we're back in the swing of things. And I'm excited because today we have. none other than America's First Impression Rose winner,

Brianna, joining very shortly. I'm so excited to get to know her. She seems like a sweetheart. I'm, Zach seems very much into her as well. And so it's like the first person that we get to talk to, really kind of get their feelings on how that first night went. And she has such a

unique perspective with going into it a little bit more relaxed on that first night, which is like a lot of people don't know that you don't have that perspective. I'm curious. We've got a lot of questions for her. But before that, Becca, how are you doing? How are you feeling? I'm good. I've been a little sick under the weather ever since I got back from the Midwest. I was with my niece and nephew. And I love them so much. It was such a good trip. But every time I leave Wisconsin, I end up with some sort of cold or virus from, they're so cute, but they're so germy from these little germy toddlers. yes i will honestly say that's like one thing i don't miss all that much of teaching is that you get sick all the time because you're on kids all the time and especially like when you're not

used to that you just get you pick up everything they sneeze in your mouth and all of that and then also like the weather change going from the midwest back to where you're at i feel yeah it's so much good on well and you know i mean you obviously are traveling like crazy but California has such weird weather right now. It rained for three or four weeks straight. Now it's sunny, but it's extra windy. Mother Nature is just on a rampage right now. She doesn't know what she wants to do. But anywhere. Yeah. Everywhere. But enough about me and my illness. How are you? I'm doing fairly well. I'm back in Minnesota right now. But yeah, that bouncing back and forth, I feel like every time I go on an airplane. I get like pick up something yeah and we I left LA to escape the rain and I came to Minnesota and it was raining and we got a winter weather advisory so I'm at the point where I'm just going to take full responsibility for the weird ass weather can I say that I don't know what I could say that it's following you for the weird weather like I feel like

I'm responsible for it it just follows me like and didn't you get did it Minnesota just get dumped on with so much snow, too? That's what, yeah, that's what I was saying is that I left L.A. L.A. never gets rain. Michelle moves to L.A. Flooding. When I moved to South Carolina, Blizzard.

Came back to Minnesota, winter weather advisory. Yeah, we got dumped on. Yeah, my mom every morning. I'm coming back. I wake up to text from my mom every morning, and it's just like inches upon inches of snow. And I was like, mom, this is why I moved. Like, I, this is great for you if you like.

but, like, I don't need to see this. But, well, yeah, come back to L.A. We have hopefully great weather on the horizon once the wind dies down. I don't know. I mean, I was not weather people. So let's get into what we do know, which is The Bachelor. Obviously, Zach's premiere. took place last night. Michelle, throughout the entire episode, was there anything that really stood

out to you? Any key moments? Or also, do you have any predictions for what's to come? Do you have anyone that you think, like, he, you know, is already leaning towards, like, that will make it pretty far? Yeah, I, it was so weird just watching last night. I'm like, are we really, like, these seasons roll over so quickly and really feel like Clayton was just on our screens, which I guess he was, huh? But to just go forward with it, it's interesting because I think before this season started, we've heard a lot about, you know, how the season's going to go, what kind of drama, what kind of things are going on.

And I heard that this season was going to be like a little bit more traditional. which I feel like I kind of felt on that first night or watching last night. But at the same time, I think the things, like the non-traditional things that I loved about it were like how exciting the intros were. Like when the girls are getting out of the limo or like the funny things that they were doing, I feel like we got to a point with like people who have like started Bachelor and started watching at the beginning. Everything was so simple. And then now like these past seasons when people are. rolling in with all these like really funny things there weren't as many of those like super super memorable entrances i'm going to be completely honest right now and this is just my

opinion on night one um it was a little lackluster that there was not really an entrance that stuck out to me or like blew my mind um if you were to ask me right now like the most memorable I'd say maybe like the party bus just because it was big, right? I felt like, and this is something that Jesse Palmer said when we had him on a couple weeks ago. He's like, is that goes back to the basics. It's back to love, which I can appreciate. I don't need all the crazy drama. But let me ask you this.

Okay. And let me try to remember her name. Her name was Madison. She was the one from, I think, North or South Dakota. I think, had she not. been here night one there do you agree with the statement there would not have really been any like big dramatic wow entertainment moments yeah yeah i would agree i mean she for sure she was the one that had the or just showcase the most emotion you know going through this

night one yeah i would have said it's so hard because it's like When we're going through our seasons, we want, we would love to go back to basics, right? Like, we want to go back. Like, we want to meet genuine people. We genuinely, as a lead, you genuinely want to fall in love. Like, you want the bullshit to be cut out. You don't ever want that. But I like the balance.

Like, I like that first night for it to be exciting and upbeat and memorable. And, like, that's where you want all the action. And then when it gets serious, that's where you're like, okay, let's cut the bullshit kind of thing. It, like, got flip-flop. or maybe it won't but yeah and and i'm sure like i can imagine these dramatic moments that we're talking about will come like right there's not going to be a whole season without that but i just felt like this premiere was so straightforward and so basic which i will say if i was zach i would have loved that you know like i would have actually loved to just have a chill fun night

where people aren't fighting and there's not like somebody crying i mean granted madison cried a little bit but yeah yeah it was it was very interesting um yeah see i just want i want i want the because even like my if i go back to my first night i want the entrances to be exciting that's what i like that's what i love is like the really funny creative things when all these contestants are getting out of the limo or giving off whatever they're arriving in that's what i love the most and then the conversations I obviously want to get to know the women that are on the screen and things like that

so I don't mind if those aren't like I don't need anyone yelling at each other but yeah I was disappointed with the entrances yeah just a little lackluster I will say that and again if I was Zach I would have loved it because I'm there to meet a potential life partner

was there anyone that really stuck out to you or like addressed that caught your eye I was super excited to see Brianna and just to like see how she was so relaxed coming into it. But then I'm so curious to talk to her about if she felt like she had a target on her back when she was entering, knowing that like the women already knowing that she has a rose and things like that. But she is the one that I kind of had my eye on as well as charity. I feel like those connections were just like natural genuine and then who is the one that we were talking about before um Christina Christina she's going to be funny she looks like she's going to be funny so I'm excited to get to know her Christina is one that stood out just because she's she's fiery

she's funny she kind of reminds me I think it and it just is probably the southern accent of my girl Tia Booth like it gave me Tia Tia flashbacks when I'm I first met her out of the limo that that night one. I think she'll be entertaining to watch. I agree with Charity. I will say this. We saw him kiss several women last night and I feel like with Charity, it was the

first one that like it seemed like he really wanted to and that he was like very into and it didn't feel forced. I liked that connection. So I have my eye on them. Did you feel like, because he kissed Greer as well? Did you feel like that was

genuine? Let's just talk about this first impression rose real quick and just get it out of the way. So Greer, yes, we saw her get the first impression rose. It seems like her and Zach do have probably the strongest connection so far because he didn't give her that rose. We've all seen the screenshots that are out there and there's a little scandal around her. I'm sure as the season goes on that will be addressed eventually. The only thing that this entire time that I'm watching her with Zach, I think all I see is the Band-Aid on her shoulder. I'm like, who let this girl come in, night one, with the Band-Aid on the shoulder while they're making it out? That's all I was looking at. I don't even remember. I couldn't even tell you what they talked about. I don't even remember any of their conversation. I know that they kissed and that's it.

I just was fixated on the damn Band-Aid. That is so funny because I didn't see it. go back I need to was it was it like a circle bandaid was it no it was just a normal bandaid like you know that we were in elementary school like just a normal bandaid which

and so it like doesn't take out that much but I'm just seeing this and I was like this is the night where you want to feel glad maybe there's a story behind it I'm not knocking it but that's all that is the only thing I was thinking of as I was watching this conversation the bandaid

I'm not to go back and look I'm sure somebody picked it out. I'm sure somebody screenshot of it. I'd say there's got to be something behind it. Anyone who has details that was there then I, please let me know because I, that's all I was thinking about. But let's get into America's first impression rose winner. We actually saw her months ago when Zach was announced his bachelor and this is the first time that we'll have anyone from his season on. So I think it's time to just get Brianna on to bachelor happy hour. Let's do it. Brianna, welcome to Happy Hour.

We need to know, is this your first ever podcast? This is. So I'm excited. I'm nervous. I've got butterflies and jitters. I'm just honestly, I'm so honored to be here with you guys. I've seen both of your journeys and you guys are so inspirational to me as Bachelorette. I never thought, like, this is so surreal.

I never thought that this was a possibility. Oh, and we're so excited to have you. For those who can't see it, Brianna, she looks like she popped on her screen and she looks phenomenal like she's in this pink top one shoulder top glowing to the point where like beck and I almost needed to pause the podcast because we look so grunty yeah we're like we're apologizing to Brianna for how slobby we look right now like picture in a mirror at least Michelle down how how Brianna looked like when she first met Zach months ago on that live stage and how she looked last night during the premiere is just. just how she looks right now. Like beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I see you, your glam team here in California. Whatever you're doing is work in.

My glam team took their time today with this one. That glam team is me. I had a lot. I might work that out. I got up super early to make nice and keep for you guys. I'm glad you appreciate it. So let's get into it. We know we've been in your shoes.

We understand how crazy, not only filming. I understand that was months ago, not only how crazy filming is, but now that it's finally airing. and everyone saw your entrance and your conversations. How are you feeling after watching everything and just, like, soaking it all in? So I am, like, in such a whirlwind right now. Like, I honestly, the whole process of me getting involved in the show was just so spur of the moment. And it just feels like everything kind of came together in such a, like, beautiful and serendipitous way.

So I'm excited. Well, I want to know because you mentioned that just getting on the show in general was very serendipitous. how did this come to be? Yeah, so it was like late August 2022, and my mom kind of comes to me and it's like, Brianna, like I was praying this morning and I just, I heard that you should apply for the bachelor. And I'm like, this is kind of random.

Like I'm not like, I'm going to get on the bachelor. Like I'm just going to apply and get on. And she's like, listen, you know, like just see what happens. I really feel like something can come of this. So I kind of roll my eyes, but like I get on my kids. theater and I still apply anyway and um and I'm applying and I actually am appearing from casting like the same day and they're literally like Brianna today is the last day we're accepting girls for this upcoming season and it was kind of like I got in by the skin on my teeth but it was amazing because

like my mom watched The Bachelorette and she's been a huge fan of the franchise like since I was a little girl and so I kept me to be like sack sack oh my dad sack so cute who's this that I feel like that's going to be the bachelor. And this was like months out. And so I actually ended up fighting out like later on when I got to kind of burn her life. She was right. Dang. So how did how did they ask you to come on after the final rose? Because I think there was what, only five of you women that came out that night, correct? Yeah. So there was five of us. It was Brooklyn, me, Bailey, Cat, and Christina. And so the way it went for me was like pretty much a week and a half in my producer calls me and he said hey like there's something

really cool and special we want to do like would you be down to do it i'm like okay like what is it and he was being super hush hush super tight-lipped um but i was like you know what like i'm just going to take a leap of faith and trust that you know it's whatever is he's going to be good and so he's like if you come you will have to fly out next week and like i said i was only like a week and a half into a process of casting So I was like, like, Brian, how are we going to fly out in a week? I don't have anything. And he's like, don't worry, you'll figure it out. Just like come.

So they ask me, they don't really tell me anything. They just say, you want me to be a person, be super special, something a little unprecedented, and, you know, just bring yourself and respect your personality, and that's all that matters. So that's what I did. And it worked out for you. So when you were, like, when you were on that plane heading to L.A., you had no idea.

idea that you were going to be meeting Zach. I didn't know they were announcing a bachelor. I didn't know who the bachelor was yet. So when did you find out? Like when was the moment that you found out that, okay, I'm actually going to be meeting this man early? On live television. On live.

The whole thing was honestly surprised to me. I had no idea what I was flying I did for. I thought maybe they were going to shoot like some emotional stuff. And that was going to be a purpose season. So I get it. like super late, I don't know what night, get in super late in the night, and then the next day they're coming, they're like, hey, so

you're going to be on a live show and you're going to be the Bachelor, who is, struggle, please, Zach. And I was like, oh my, yeah, yay. Because like, even when I was keeping my past it early on, I was like, Zach really caught my eye in Gabby in the initial season. So did you have, okay, I have so many questions

about this. Like, as you keep talking, they keep popping up. So Michelle and I were both, there during that after the final rose. And so we were there when they announced Zach. We see him come out. He's talking with Jesse. And I'm not going to lie, he was very nervous. And we've had Zach on the podcast before and he was a lovely man. Like he, great conversation was funny. It seemed very open. But on that live stage, he seemed just so nervous that I feel like he couldn't really talk and like open up and feel comfortable. So. So were you watching him backstage?

What was actually going through your mind? I know that you said that you were excited, and of course he's attractive and all these things. But watching him in that moment, what were you thinking? Honestly, I thought it was so cute. Like, for me personally, like, I'm genuinely here to find, like, a partner, or someone who's real, someone's authentic. So when I see you having nerves and, like, it makes me feel more human to me.

Like, if he went out there, was just like, yes, I am Mr. Pickwick and swab. I'll be like, ooh, I don't know, but what's going on here? The reality, like the reality of him being nervous. Because honestly, like, I was so nervous backstage. I was, like, holding, like, my people's hands and, like, praying, like, help me not to, like, trip. So, this is a good answer. I like that you said that. I mean, and I like how you could see, like, the human aspect of it.

Because I'm not, you probably felt, and we've all felt this because we've all done the live shows. It is the most nerve-wracking thing. Like, it's one thing to be meeting this guy that you're potentially dating and knowing that it's going to be filmed. But the fact that you did it in front of millions. of people is no small feat. So kudos to you, kudos to Zach, kudos to the other women that were there with you. It's a lot. It's a lot. Did you have any idea that they were going to have America vote for the first, for America's first impression rose recipient? No, I had no idea. Like when I tell you, everything was a surprise. So

like when you see me looking like oh my god like i'm genuinely like oh my god what is going on right now so we were not we were not like we were just a surprise of zackler zack was surprised to see that we were surprised to see that there was a rose on the line and you got that rose so you get it you get the rose right and you get to go through all of those emotions not a lot of people have gone into the mansion that first night and have like stepped out of the limo and have it's not like and have that almost like kind of taking a deep breath right like you have that first night where you have your rose you're safe i think brianna you might be the first person in bachelor nation history and our fans and followers will correct me very quickly if i'm wrong

but i think you were the first person stepping in night one being completely safe from beginning to end yeah and look at that smile she's like okay so i will acknowledge this though that's amazing and everyone's going to be like oh she's so lucky she's so lucky but it also did it ever cross your mind or how are your thoughts or how are you feeling about i'm going to be walking in you know if you've watched the show or people who watch the show know that a lot of times people who receive the first impression rose or a rose in these intense situations there's a lot of pressure on your back or there's a huge target on your back and people aren't always the nicest how were did that ever cross your mind did you ever have that

worry of this is really exciting and i'm here for zach but i'm going in and other women might not like me right off the bat because of this yeah honestly michel you are so right because that was something that i was actually really concerned about um just because of the fact that like i was so excited and i was so happy because i feel like when america saw zach and i like they felt what I was feeling like in that moment like I genuinely was feeling like head over deals

I was feeling the connection I was feeling the chemistry and I feel like it really translated well and going into this show I was feeling like God like how am I gonna do more than this like or there are people going to kind of want to be a certain way towards me

because I came in with this already because like honestly I'm not like an arrogant person I'm not someone who wants to make anyone feel bad and I know having to come in with the rows and not only have it, but walk around with it all night. Like, I know that that can be kind of an anxiety point for other people who don't have it.

So, like, coming in, already having it and not only having it, but, like, having to literally hold it in my hand all night. Like, I was kind of trying to be, like, you know, hold it, like, kind of low or hold it behind my back. Like, I was really trying not to seem, like, I'm kind of, like, showing it off

because that was not my intention. Like, if I was the other girl's position, I would be like, oh, my God, like, she's walking around this world. I don't have one. I'm so stressed out. I put myself in their shoes and I get that. I think what people didn't understand about the situation was that, you know, despite the fact that, yes, like, I am safe. This is also my first opportunity to get to know Zach as well. Outside of what you all saw on TV, Zach and I didn't really get a chance to speak. So it was really

tough for me because, you know, all night I was getting comments like, oh, you don't need to talk to him. Like, you're safe or like, oh, why did you come wearing that dress? Like, you know, you can wear sweatpants. I'm like, you know, guys, like, I'm here for the same experience as you. We got to talk about this dress because it was stunning. I love that you said you were trying to like hide the rose because it met you had a rose dress. It was beautiful. Sticking and you're literally just the funny part is like I have had that dress for years. So I

actually, um, yes, I didn't miss New Jersey in 2019. And like that was actually the dress I wore. And so I think for this occasion. yeah and I just feel like it kind of like I feel like it was like I had the rose and then I had the rose dress and I was like oh my god like I blew too much right now oh crap it's so funny it was beautiful I have to say we there were there were I mean obviously everyone looked stunning that that first night but that was probably my favorite dress of night one out of the entire bunch it was so fitting for what it was it was beautiful you wore it with such confidence and I want to like you know it's one thing stepping in night one and knowing you're, like, you're going to have your first real interaction with Zach. I guess you'd met him before, but like this is the first time you guys can really actually have a conversation. But were you more nervous to see him again or to walk into the mansion and see all of the 30 plus women sitting around?

Because you were the last one. They were waiting for you. They knew you were coming. So that had to be very daunting walking into. Honestly, walking in from the girl, I was like, that's. was fun for me. Yeah. You know, I'm on the main character, energy.

I was like, I'm going to do my little squirrel. I got a squirrel on them real quick and, you know, take my seat. So I was not, actually, I was not nervous at the part. I was more nervous about, like, the night and living in the house than I was about, like, just walking in and seeing everybody. Because at the end of the day, like, I'm, I actually am there to make friends. I'm like, you know, a lot of people say, like, I'm going to find love for sure, but, like, I love and value my female relationships so much.

Like, those are my highest priority in life. So I was so excited to get in there and, like, hopefully find people who I could connect with genuinely for life. Yeah. I will say that is the best part. It really is. And it's, you spend so much time with the women. So it's like, you hear those people, like,

I'm not here to make friends. No, you're not, but your friends are what gets you through. But the friends are what gets you through this. And they're the ones that understand. Yeah. Exactly. Romantic love. Romantic loves, you know, can come and it can go. But, like, real true friends who are, like,

sisters are, like, so few and far. between like i know that this is a kind of environment where you can really find those people in life so yeah you know it was a little nerve-wracking but i was gonna respond to that a lot of the okay so when you walk into the the like there's this moment that i feel like so many women have especially maybe i know i've heard someone with like the men as well but i walk when i walked in that first night me and my girl ryan claytor we like clicked like we looked at each other and when you're in this room full of people you can feel when someone's genuine or that you're just going to be really close friends.

Did you see any of the women or, like, vibe with any of them and be like, yep, we're going to be close. Like, we're going to just, we're just already on the same page. And who was that, who was that for you? Yes. So the first night was honestly really tough me for a lot of reasons. One of which was because I got so close with Becca. And so she was actually in my limo. Like, that was my girl.

Like, from the second I saw her, I was like, ooh, I can just feel like there's a vibe here. Like, best friends, soulmate kind of a feeling. And so it was really cute because, like, you know, whenever I was like nervous or like alone, I'd be like, oh, God, what's Becca? I'm like scanning the room for her to go say hi. She's got a good name. Exactly. No, that was my girl. But yeah, I'm like in the middle, like sometime in the night, like she like stood up for me.

And like it met so much to me. I was like, Becca, will you accept this besties rose? Oh. And I literally gave her my rose to like hold for two seconds. Cute. I was just like, like, she just meant so much to me. in that moment. So that was my girl. I was devastated when she went home. I was like,

I'm both friends. You'll make it a good quick. I know. And also, I loved Victoria. Victoria, I think, Victoria P and I, she was my bunkmate. And Charity and I didn't talk too much, but we had like one interaction where I was like, I feel like this could be a vibe.

Yeah, like mutual respect. You just get it. It like comes out real quick of like, yeah, you know, what will vibe out? I love that. What was it like with, because you met the four other women during after the final rows what was it like seeing them again were you did you kind of hit it off with them were they more like standoffish since you got that first rose what was that like i'm gonna say the first night i actually don't remember really speaking to any of them except christina so christina are the only i think once we really spoke from that um afterwards i got to know

brooklyn and baby like a lot more and cap and i actually really like those girls um but that first night I feel like I was kind of like in my own world of just being a little nervous and just like, because honestly, like, I think I'm super outgoing, but I don't think people understand that. I'm truly introverted. And so, like, it's a lot for me to be in a situation with like 20, 30 new people, my crush, cameras, lights. Yeah. It's so much. It's a whirlwind that night. Yeah.

Yeah. I kind of feel like sometimes I can come off like, oh, like, Brandon didn't talk to me so she doesn't like me. Like, no, guys, like, I'm really nervous, but if you come talk to me, like, I will literally be your best friend for life. I love that. I love that about you. And honestly, that really reads through the screen while. You can tell, viewers can tell who's genuine, who's not. Was there anybody in the mansion that you watched in night one?

I know that I was like, okay, let's peep out the villain. That's what everybody does. Who's going to be, like, everyone tries to foreshadow. Or who's going to be not even necessarily the villain? It's kind of unfair to put it on one person, right? But like who's going to be the person that might not maybe be like received as well or might be it misunderstood or somebody who's like, oh, they might create some kind of trouble. Was there anybody who you're like not that either like intimidating, you know, or just like, hmm, you just weren't sure about them. Was I intimidated by anybody?

Or just, yeah, anybody you were like, oh, I don't know if I'm in a vibe with them very well. Or anyone that was like standoffish or kind of rude. I mean, there's always people who get crazy. It's a long night. You guys saw the episode. So, like, this is a little loaded question. Like, most people were really nice. There would be the occasional snide comment from, like, you know, like girls being like,

like I said, like, why didn't she wear sweatpants? Like, you don't need to wear that dress. And, you know, the, like, you don't need to talk to him tonight. And so I was really trying to be cognizant of the fact that, like, you know, it would look bad if I pull Zach first, second, third, fourth, fifth, even 10th. Pretty much honestly, if the girls pulling Zach at all that night was looking back because I finally got to talk to him and it was like maybe 4.30 a.m. And literally people were like physically trying to get in the way of me going in there.

So what? Like literally stop you from? Yeah. Like I'm standing outside like waiting for the conversation to kind of have a little low. And people were like, you better not go in there. Like do not go in there and talk to him. You already have all those. I love.

Wow. That's okay. There is so, I don't know if any people at home understand this or watch this. But it's not as easy as people think to just go in and interrupt a conversation. Like, it's already such an unnatural process with everything going on. And you're, like, trying to read the room, but there's different implied rules in the room and pressures. And it's so uncomfortable, but you also, like, value yourself and you should get to talk to him. And he clearly wanted to talk to you.

Well, and I love how you approach the conversation with him and you address it right away. Like, look, some people think maybe because I'm already safe, I already have this rose, I shouldn't necessarily have pulled you aside and made time. But again, like, this is the first real time that you have to have a conversation. And so I like that you approached it that way. And he, like Michelle just said, he wanted to talk to you. But also, but also from a lead perspective, if you, I think it would have hurt you if you didn't do that. That's what I was saying. Like, why didn't she talk to me? Yeah, because then it looks like you're getting comfortable already. And that is a worry that you have as somebody who's trying to find your person it's like oh like we haven't talked and now

she just didn't come find me that's she doesn't want to get to know me maybe this isn't as meaningful it would have hurt you if you didn't so yeah and that's what I was thinking like I'm like well first of all it's like as awesome as this have a rose like it's nice to have a rose and it's nicer to be in a good head space for your first conversation with someone and I felt like that was kind of taken from me with all the just like input from almost everyone around me like there was many girls who were sweet and were like, oh, God, like, I voted for you. Like, I'm so happy to finally meet you. Like, like, hey, Brianna. And, like, for those girls, I am so grateful because you literally made my night. Like, I was feeling so nervous, so scared. And it's like,

and if it wasn't for like, like, Greer came up to me and told me that, like, there were so many girls who came, Davia, who came and just gave me, like, that little bit of encouragement. Because I think, who told her you that they voted, that you, they voted for you. Oh, it was weird. Greer is the one who's like, yeah, I voted for you. I think Davia may have said it too. So I just really appreciated that because it's just, it's nice to come in and know that there's support and people who are, you know, just feeling kindly towards

you in a situation that can bring out the worst in people. We have to, we have a little game for you that we're going to get into, but before that obviously we don't want you to give anything away. So without too much detail, can you

tease anything fun to come or something that we have to look forward to this season? Let me think. Okay, so there's definitely a lot of surprising guests this season. Some anticipated, some not anticipate it.

Okay. And you may get to see me win something about it. So, you gotta stay tuned. Oh, I love this. You're competitive, aren't you? Um, I don't know. Not like, I'm not like cutthroat, but like, I think I'm not a cut-throw.

Like, if it's a cut-throw game, I'll lose. But like, if it's just like, you know, something like fine, like, then, yeah, I like to do my best. I love that. Okay, well, I can't wait to see more of you on our big screen in the weeks to come. Yeah, so I hope you could talk to you guys, like, really, way more. Like, can we actually be friends after this? Definitely, definitely. Oh, yeah, hit us up if you need advice.

Anything. We are here. If you come to California, let us know. No. All right, Michelle, you want to get into the game? Okay. So, Brianna, we have, well, one, so happy that we're having you here. We, like, put in our word to have you specifically. Yes. I can't believe it. Yes, you may have been on our screens a lot or the most so far, but we are going to get to know a little bit more.

It's called Rapid Fire, so it's all about, like, that quick response time. So just throw it out there. You don't have to give an explanation, just an answer. And it's going to be a super quick. I mean, Becca, we'll bounce back and forth. Yeah. Are you ready? Are you an early riser or a night owl? Night owl.

What is the best dating advice you've ever received? Probably, this is kind of corny, but literally just be yourself. The right person will like you for you. Yes. Love it. What is your go-to pizza order? Ooh, I love white pizza. You like a little.

Bianca. It's like, yeah, Bianca is out as well. What is one word that your best friends would use to describe? you honestly like i hate to say but also i don't bad bitch like that's me hey i like it okay what's your favorite cuss word um oh i don't think i have one actually i i try not to curse you like to keep a christian i could take i could take a page from your book i need to be better right not okay brianna do you have any hidden talents i do um actually i created my own language when I was a little kid, so it's mostly written.

But yeah, so I do have my own language, and my dream would be to one day, you know, get married and, like, teach it to my husband and how to be, like, our little family language. You have your own language. I was not expecting that. We have a genius in our midst. We sure do. Okay, your next question. Your next question, what is the most played song or artist in your library? Oh, that is good.

Oh, honestly, I feel like I'm returning to high school because I've been loving Lana Del Rey. Oh, I've been big on Lana right now, but I think I'm playing a lot of John Summit. Like, I love John Summit. I love the EM vibes. So definitely John Summit or Lana. What is your favorite cocktail? Ooh. Ooh.

Okay, well, I'm a vodka girl 100%. I don't like to drink a lot of liquid, so I actually like green tea shots or lemon drop shots. Okay. And I bet that. Let's just get it quick. I feel you, girl. If you could be any animal, what would you be? If you asked me when I was a kid, I used to always tell my mom, I wanted to be a clam at the bottom of the ocean.

A clam. It's a clam. Now, now I'm going to say the best. Oh, my God. Okay. What is the current screensaver on your phone? Oh, my God. It's actually my vision.

board. Okay. If you could visit one place in the world, where would you go? Ooh. I would go to St. Barts. I love that. I love being on a boat. I love warm weather and I love being outside the country. St. Barts. Good answer. Okay. The last one for this game. If you had to describe this season of The Bachelor in just one word or phrase, what would that be? I would say I would say it's a fun season. Like I think it's fun

and I would say that for the most part, it's very like cohesive season. The girls get along and are very supportive, I think. Good. I love hearing that. Yeah, because we always get surprising, dramatic. Okay, one more thing that we have

before we let you go. It's our resource and then Rose and Thornton time. So basically, we started this a couple months ago. We love sharing different resources or bits of information to keep our listeners informed, especially for this franchise. Like, you know, we've seen certain changes, but we want more change to take place. So Michelle, do you want me to kick it off? Kick it off.

Yeah. Okay, sounds good. So mine this week, I would say it's maybe not necessarily a resource. like I do have links to go along with this, but it's going to go to a little place called Florida. And I don't know if anyone has been keeping up with the governor there. But basically, the college board had unveiled these plans that would offer an African American studies course for the first time. They would pilot this course and I want to say like 60 schools across the country with. the goal of obviously making it available

like to many more schools but the course would be a framework covering key topics that go into deep history of like West Africa culture and into the contemporary movement they wouldn't

the students who would take this course wouldn't just like learn about the history but it would be more hands on they would also learn about geography literature art music politics film like basically everything that would provide a more comprehensive view of the African-American experience, which when I'm reading this, I'm like, that is so cool and that is a course I would love to take. But the governor of Florida blocked this

course and is making it unavailable to students in Florida because he said, quote, unquote, it would distort historical events. And now the governor, Ron DeSantis, has history of restricting discussions of race, gender, sexual orientation in the classroom. So there's this whole thing. Again, I'm going to share links to all of this. But for me personally, as I'm like reading and learning about this, like I and we can have a whole conversation because I would love your points of view and feelings about this too. But like to me, I'm like, why the hell would anyone block this. Like, when I grew up in school, I did not get a whole comprehensive history lesson. You know, it was very skewed one way. And we didn't really get into the deep roots of

systemic racism in this country and the continued impacts. And so, like, when I'm hearing about this course, I'm like, that is incredible. Like, that is something I would want to take. I think it would be so beneficial to all students of different ages. And so to have this politician basically block that and say, nope, it's distorting historical events. I'm like, okay, well, I feel like he's reacting out of fear. Again, like, this is just my take on this. I would love your take as well, but I'm like, it's boiling my blood just thinking about like, why are you? I was going to say how much time we have. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we only got, we only got a couple more minutes, but it's like, it's so baffling to me of like why somebody would cut this course. Like, listen, Ron.

sir, if you don't want to take it, that's your own thing. But like, you as this policymaker in a state should not have a say on if this is offered and if students want to take this. Or maybe he shouldn't be the only person with a say. Like, I feel like it shouldn't be a situation where one person is pretty much vetoing the work of like teaching things that kids need to know. Like, everyone needs to know these things. Our history definitely, like you said, because really shown from one person's perspective one interpretation and like it just makes me think of like that parable that's like you know history is told from the point of view of the conquerors of the winners you know the lion is not telling the tale of the lamb yeah so like it's it's just it totally is and it's just it's so

it kind of comes down to it where like I don't even mean to laugh because it's like comical and it's also part there's as somebody who's kind of in her position it's like there's times where you just have to protect your energy you don't even let yourself go there and like You'd be constantly pissed off. But it's so hypocritical because it's like, well, we learn about, well, why is history important? Because we learn about history is that we don't repeat it or repeating it. We're still continuing to repeat it. And maybe it's because, like, it's completely distorted.

It's just not. It's even, from a teacher perspective, just the things that are out there that we have access to or not access to. And, you know, there's a lot of people who are so uncomfortable with change. Right. And that's where I'm thinking again, like, I don't know this governor. I've never met this man. Like, would I vote for him? Would I ever vote for this man?

Probably not. But it's like for me, like, I just, you know, like, Michelle, you were, you were a teacher. My mom is a teacher. My mom was a teacher. My sister is a teacher. And it's like, my mom's a professor. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think like knowledge is a beautiful thing. And like, why not supply the tools for everyone to get a more comprehensive. hence a view of everything and if they're a critical thinker they can choose to take like what they believe what they follow like what they want to learn and like think is are the important parts but like allow them the tools that's it knowledge is power hmm knowledge is power yeah somebody has a lot of knowledge it's kind of a scary thing they can overtake thing it's just like it's it's it's it's so sad you know where to think about and so I and so I and so I want to know in the states that aren't banning this. If anyone

takes this course, like, I would love to hear about, if there's a freaking way I can take it, like, please I would love to. Actually, yeah, let's do it. Like, do I got an sign back up for university? I don't know. Shit, let's go. I'll teach it. I need to do a lot more research about this, like, too, but I, yeah, like, I sign me up. So, Michelle, I'm in like you.

My research. My next thing kind of goes actually along with yours a little bit. it's called okay so my big thing with giving these resources is I'm going to make it easy as possible for someone to be able to learn about this stuff right like you don't have to like you can be lazy and you can still learn something but it's called this podcast it's called diversity gap and it's more of a their podcast where like yeah you can go and whatever people go on their hot girl walk and like listen to like motivational podcasts and things like that but this one is definitely for people who want to bring these conversations into their own workplace, or if they're in

a leadership role and want to open it up to have these conversations. And it does it in a way where it doesn't give you homework, but it gives you critical thinking. And it talks all about exactly where the diversity gap comes from and why it's actually continuing to get bigger. And when there's people who have, like, it kind of breaks it down to all the different types of learning the different stages you go into but it doesn't in a way where like you can take the step by step workings and it's all like surrounded about around realness in like a fresh creative way but it's inside a workplace so it's like take this and bring this into your workplace and then how i know that there's actually a group of people who um that i teach with that i actually

use it in like their professional development themselves oh wow and they all listen to podcast It's like kind of being part of a book club. Maybe I should send this to the governor of Ford. I wonder if you would listen to it. Everyone should send a lot of stuff to him. Yeah, yeah, it could send. Yeah, it could send here to listen to this podcast. I think you might, you won't like it, but you need to hear it.

You might learn something. You might learn something. You have some takeaway. Yeah, but it's really great in doing that critical thinking and it challenges you to actually think about these things in a way that even if you don't have a lot of background knowledge with this, but you want to do better, it's going to give you prompts to think about as you're processing through these podcasts. And they almost like process through it with you in a really weird way because you can't talk back to them.

But like it's hard to explain. Makes a thing. Yeah. But this one's actually really easy to have access to. That's what I love about it. It's on every podcast platform. I checked like Apple podcast, Spotify. And it's called Diversity Gap?

The diversity gap. Yeah. And it's very much. Yeah. It just is geared towards like leadership and really like. not only doing learning yourself but you know when people are in those mindsets of I want to do better I want to change yeah you kind of then get into the role of you really want to challenge the people around you to have those

conversations as well and this is a little bit of a way to like transition into doing that so cool I'm gonna I just wrote that down thanks Michelle right and I love that Brianna you are up if you have a resource or awareness that you would like to share I love it I feel like ours kind of like seamlessly went into each other so like yours was well mine is on black female entrepreneurship so I don't know if you guys do know but I do actually have my own beauty company um did like not yes it's called one beauty after myself Brianna Thorborn oh my gosh my goodness okay first of all you've been hide okay we send it over

send the PR package over I guess I just want to share some facts about like you know entrepreneurship like please do you i don't know if you guys know but like in 2019 89 89% of really created by women of color and that actually happens to be like up from what like it's up 160% over the last 45 years so right now black women women of color if you are looking to create a business there are so many people who are here to help you so many resources i believe there's something like the 15% pledge that you can sign up for um and that actually helps you get shelf space money. But the resource that I want to give you guys is a podcast called How I Built This with Guy Raz. And I actually used to listen to that a lot when I was getting started

because he interviews people in all kinds of different companies, like whether it's tech or health. But I love to listen to the beauty founders. Like we've got like Maureen Kelly who did Tart Cosmetics or like Ray Ann Sova who did Beauty Blender. So it's really interesting. It's awesome to hear these stories because like these people are someone who really comes from that. And just because of a dream that they have, they've created a billion-dollar companies and it could be new girls. So don't make money all by themselves. This is awesome.

That's incredible. That's amazing. And it's also so cool to hear it. I mean, it's just the fact that I had no idea. One, that's wonderful, that there's so many women, females who are in these leadership positions. I wish it was covered by media more. I wish, like, I really wish, I wish there was more access. to that or I wish that was something

that was being amplified or like lifted up because the fact that I don't know if anybody would know that. Yeah. It's not covered often but like if you just go searching like there's some of the friends that you can get especially for like a 51% from a company. And actually a lot of beauty companies have set aside

like a certain amount of shelf space specifically for black home brands. So if you are able to get a brand up and running and you can get in touch with them like there is resources, there is space being set aside for us. So, like, you know, you don't have to think about, oh, I want to get a little piece of the pie. The pie can just get bigger and bigger. You can all have our fair share. Yeah. This is incredible. Thank you. And thank you for coming prepared. Okay. So the last bit that we

always do with all of our guests is our Rose and Thorn. And you're the first person of Zach's season to do this. So we're very excited. So it's going to be like your favorite moment memory of either when you were at after the final rose or when you got to the mansion that night one. And then on the flip side, your thorn, which is like the low light, the messiest moment from either of those two situations.

Okay, I would say my rose was definitely after the final rose, like getting to go up there and like I remember this moment so good at me when I think about it. It was like Jesse calls my name. I walk out and it's like I'm walking up and I see Zach and he looks really nervous but he also

looks just like so handsome and like cute and I'm just like oh my god like in that moment it feels like everyone else in the audience kind of disappears and I'm so in that moment like I'm looking into his sweet eyes like he's smiling and so that was such a sweet and just like precious moment and memory to me it was just crazy because like when I think about my experience especially like being a black girl in America it's really easy to feel overlooked and to feel like, like, you don't really expect to win things. Honestly, like, even if you're the best and you're the greatest and you're working so hard, it's like you always kind of have to temper that expectation a little bit.

And so to have America, choose me, and not just because of, like, looks, but because they actually felt the genuineness of, like, the chemistry and the connection, that meant so much because it just felt like, wow, like the way I'm feeling is really translating. And it made me feel hopeful for the state of our country. country that something like this could happen to like a little black girl like me i would have never hey you are a catch after everything we just learn the world yeah you deserved that rose you all i gotta say is take up space girl yeah take up space and do not be ashamed of taking up space thank you guys and i would say my one no just the stress of night one honestly just the stress of night one

like you really no amount of preparation of watching the show of judging other people from the past can prepare you for when the shoot was on your foot like nothing to prepare you for the emotions like the long night like it was like I think 18 hours and six and a half inch platform heels guys I do not get those nights and I did not take them off once good for you no you're a stronger woman than I it's too hard to put them back on so I'm like I just got to keep the suffering going um but yeah like actually know maybe the phone was those deals yeah I get it oh man I do not miss those nights I never again we did it I'm done right well Brianna it was so fun having you thank you again for I'm you sound like a crazy busy woman so we appreciate you just taking a few hours to come chat with us again

you are welcome back anytime. We are here this whole season, so reach out whenever. Thank you guys so much. I had so much fun today. You guys really put me out of these. Oh, good. There was a nice,

a nice, cute little chat. I can't we talk so many more. I really, really like her. I, now that's how you come ready for resources. Like, that made me so happy. She seems so well-rounded. Like, I loved doing that game with her,

just learning these little, fun things that she speaks another language that she started her own language like she is of course like the second she hopped on she's beautiful stunning but like the brains that this woman has and like the self-awareness and just she just seems so kind so i'm excited to see more of her i i really it gives me help for the season having good women like this yeah she she she i'd give her my first impression rose she's amazing she seems like really like she's got it's nice to see a good person like highlighted. Yes. And I hope that continues. I agree. I agree. I'm tracking with you, Michelle. Okay, one thing I, okay, I know we have to wrap because we've gone way over. One

thing I have to say, though, I have to give a shout out to trainer Jason, who was in the very beginning of night one. This premiere, he was training Zach. He is my old trainer. Jason, I loved seeing you. You deserve all of these good callouts. So keep kicking ass, taking names. But, I mean, Michelle, we did it. We are done with Premier Night. Another season. Getting in the back pocket.

Sounds like lots to come. Yes. So, yeah, I mean, I'm excited to see what happens next week. I'm excited to see more of Brianna. But until then, thanks Brianna for joining us. Michelle, it's always good to chat with you. and to all of our happy hour listeners, thank you for being here with us each and every week. And new episodes of The Bachelor air every Monday at 8.7 Central on ABC, or you can stream the next day on Hulu.

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