Bachelor Happy Hour - Bride Dives, Boot Camp, and Red Velvet Only

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Today, Joe and Serena are diving into all the juicy moments from Night 2 of “The Bachelor”! As the first one-on-one and group dates of the season officially commence, Joe and Serena get into Daisy...’s heart-wrenching story of overcoming her illness, Lauren’s struggle with grieving her father on the wedding group date, and some Bachelor Nation cameos on group date number two. Plus, we also hear their take on Lauren’s shocking self-elimination, the she-said/she-said drama between Madina, Sydney, and Maria, and what to expect in our next episode, where they sit down with sisters Lauren and Allison. Listen now and make sure you follow so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 Hey everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here to recap episode two. And we have Allison and Lauren coming on later this week, which really, really upset about Lauren going home. I know. She was an early fan favorite.
Starting point is 00:01:53 She was an early favorite for us. I just feel like she had more life to live on this show. I'm really disappointed that she left. And it felt like it kind of came out of nowhere, so I'm excited to hear more about, like, her thought process behind it. She spiraled. She spiraled out of control, and then she left. Maybe, or maybe there was more to the story. I think she regrets it. You think so?
Starting point is 00:02:12 You think if we ask her if she regrets it, she says yes? Yeah. I think she says no. Okay. So we'll ask them about that, about how they got on the show, about this guy that they both dated. Yeah, the overlap. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Let's get into. Let's recap episode two. All right, let's do it. What do we got first? Well, first thing we got is the first group date of the season, which is always the most exciting, I feel like, and it was a bridal group date. I can't believe what is with all these reality shows making women put on bright? Isn't it bad luck to wear a wedding dress before your actual wedding? What do you mean all these reality shows?
Starting point is 00:02:58 What other reality shows have done this? I just feel like there's other shows that have done this. Okay. Well, I don't know about the other shows, but Bachelor has done this like three times. I did a bridal date. Isn't it bad luck? It is bad luck.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Technically, it is bad luck. Do we not care about that anymore? Technically, it is bad luck to see the bride in a wedding dress before the wedding day. But I think at the end of the day, like the odds, only one person is going to be his bride. So they're like, let's just risk it. Maybe she's not on this date.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Do we think she was on the date? I don't know. It's too early to tell. Joe's already making a bunch of predictions and guesses. Yeah, I'm done making predictions. Oh, okay. Never mind. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I'm going to, but I'm going to go. I'm going to say that his bride was not on that date. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, they put them all in wedding dresses. They shipped them off to their wedding with Joey. I thought it was fun.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It was cute. It was a little different. Like my season, we did a bridal photo shoot. I think that's what a lot of the seasons in the past have done too. So I like that they changed up the concept a little bit. The first thing we see on this date is Lauren struggling in the limo. And she opens up about the fact that her dad passed away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And that she's struggling because she's realizing that he won't be at her wedding. And she's kind of grieving a lot on this date, which honestly, like, I felt really bad that she had to be on this date. Like bad luck at the draw to group dates. she has to be on the one that's the wedding date after going through that that would be really really challenging yeah that's that's uh that's pretty sad and it's like yeah i can see that being tough so i think it i think it was very relatable what she was going through so feel for her why you laughing sorry well usually i feel like it's very relatable i was like well neither of us can relate to that we can't relate to it but i think a lot of people could yeah i'm sure like
Starting point is 00:04:53 as a girl, like if I lost my dad, a huge thing that I would think about if I wasn't married yet would be, oh my God, he's not going to be there. Like a father-daughter dance, walked down the aisle. Like that date, I would imagine, was quite triggering for her. Yeah. And we have Rachel, who I think is the standout. Rachel is definitely the standard on this day. I love her. I know you do. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with her. I know. You liked her a lot too. You said you thought she was really smart and really classy. Yeah. I really like the way she handles herself. She, to me, seems to be the most confident woman in the house.
Starting point is 00:05:31 She's very confident. I feel like we're overusing confident, though. Now we've called, like, so many people on this season, confident. Okay. Well, I say she's number one. Number one. Okay. I feel like she just screams like, I'm a catch.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I'm wife material. I've got my shit together. Yeah, that's what you said about her. She's wife material. Yeah. And she just seems so cool and classy. and I love her. So she was the standout night.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Obviously, Joey thought so too because he gave her the one-on-one first dance, which was kind of like special extra time. Yeah, but in front of all the girls. Yeah, I know. And then you kiss and then everyone sees it. I'd probably be like, could I just like clock in
Starting point is 00:06:12 an extra like 10 minutes talking to him tonight? But you could tell that all the other girls like her because they're like happy for her. Yeah, totally. But it's also so early on, though. Everyone, everyone's still in the phase of like, we like everyone. We're so happy for you. Like, it's, it continues, but it also doesn't, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Was it on this date, it was on this date where Jess also, just got the rose on this day. Yeah. Right. Because she cried about her ex. Yes. There's a lot of tears this episode, like a lot. I feel like, I feel like there was like five or six women that were crying, which is totally fine.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Like, bear your soul, all of that. We love vulnerability here, but I kind of... It's a little soon. Well, it's early on for this made people to be crying, so it did catch me off guard. I feel for Joey as someone who I don't consider myself like A plus plus in the comforting people I don't know while crying department. And I think that would be something if I was the lead I would struggle with
Starting point is 00:07:17 because I would want to do a really good job and I would want to make everyone feel like seeing and heard and comfortable. But naturally, I would feel really anxious and not know what to say. I mean, I would be terrible at it. You would not be able to do it. He's doing a great job. He's doing an amazing job. But I just like put myself in his shoes and it gives me a little bit of stress with like
Starting point is 00:07:40 watching like woman after woman just like telling him these like really vulnerable things and getting so emotional. But Joe is doing a great job. And the women are doing a great job too. I just, I think this is. Well, I think what we want to see right now is, well, and I think we want to see him having a lot of, like, a lot of fun at the beginning. Totally. I feel like the beginning of the season is usually lighthearted and fun and sexy.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And we've got like Evelyn jumping over a table. Yeah, what was that about? She just was, the musical chairs got real competitive, I guess. But we've got things like that, you know what I mean? Where it's just all Rachel dancing and they're kissing and it's flirty. like I feel like the journey through the season is meant to be like the journey through a relationship, you know? It's like playful and then it gets more serious. And I feel like we've started off with a lot of really serious conversations right at the gate, which maybe means that the women are taking it really seriously. Yeah. And also I feel like I guess when you make them all put on wedding dresses, it's kind of bound to get somewhat emotional.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Maybe you're right. Maybe the wedding dress just brought up all those feels for people. I also think Joe, always got this like comforting persona like they all seem to be really comfortable around him and maybe it's just encouraging them to open up faster than what we've seen in the past yeah um okay so rachel gives a speech she gets the first dance the party seems like a good time and now we're moving into the night portion with the cocktail party first person he chats with is maria yeah okay oh yeah this is good and then maria goes and she puts on a different dress yeah a lot of little fit change. What does he keep saying? He keeps saying she's going to keep me, she's going to keep me on my toes. This girl's going to keep me on my toes. I'm like, just say you're incredibly sexually
Starting point is 00:09:31 attracted to her. Yeah. I think he's, I think he's really into her. You could tell, um, yeah, that when there's like sexual chemistry, it's, it's pretty obvious. Yes. I would say so far that's the only one that we've seen where there's like strong sexual chemistry. The only relationship we've seen. I think they definitely have the strongest sexual chemistry between the two of them. I also think Maria is very, very flirty and playful. So she is like kind of bringing that to the table. I also think they just have good like chemistry chemistry. Like their banter is really fun and it's playful. I'm curious to see if that relationship kind of stays on that track or if they are able to turn it into something more serious. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Well, she gets into a fight later on in the episode we'll talk about it. Yeah, a little drama later on. And then Jess opens up about her past and having been cheated on. This was a serious, a funny moment in a serious conversation where she goes, you know, it was really hard. There was multiple fidelity. And Joey goes from him. And she was like, yeah. Joe and I were like, imagine she was like, no, me.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Like I cheated on him a whole bunch. It was so tough. It was so hard. That would have been fun. And just kind of opens up about how she, you know, is shutting down and she doesn't want to. He seems really into her. I was going to say he must really like her because he gives her the rose. And she's the first girl that he kissed.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yes. She was the first girl he kissed on night one. And now she's gotten the first group date rose. Yeah. So. Oh. So there's definitely some. some chemistry there.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I just, I don't really see it if I'm being honest. I don't know. I like her and I like him, but I don't know if I see like the chemistry yet. Maybe I'm just missing it. Like you said, it's early. I don't think we're seeing it. We're not really seeing any yet. The only one we're seeing is, is
Starting point is 00:11:33 him and Maria. As far as like, sexual chemistry. I guess so. I guess so. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamil. Hill, host of the Sports and Politics podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to
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Starting point is 00:14:35 explain to someone what it's like to lose a father seven months ago and now be on this like crazy dating reality show where you're in a wedding dress all day. Yeah. Yeah. Talk talking about your feelings opening up. Yeah. Okay. So then we go to first, who gets the first date of the season? First one-on-one date. Daisy.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Daisy's in your top four or my top four? Daisy's in my top four. Damn. Yeah. That was a good one. Yeah. I really like her. I mean, what's not like. How do you not like Daisy? I know. I think everyone knows it. I think the show knows it. I think the audience. Everyone's like, yeah, how do you not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 She's great. She is great. So they do a helicopter date, classic Bachelor fashion, iconic moment to Beach Life Ranch, I think is what it was called. What was it? I think it was giving like mini country music festival. I think that's exactly what it was. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. So they're at this concert. I think he really likes her and I think she really likes him. You could see that. Yes. I see the chemistry with those two. I really see it. I think they really get along.
Starting point is 00:15:39 She's so freaking cute She has a bubbly personality She's laughing the whole time And he's got like quite a like chill personality I feel like they match She's like giggling It just really feels like A good first date
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like it's like watching it I'm like this is what I feel like I'd be watching If you guys were just like out and about Together in the real world Yeah And then she opens up to him At the night portion But everything she's been through
Starting point is 00:16:06 Which is wild Oh yeah story's pretty pretty crazy oh yeah like very also like I didn't you know I didn't realize by actually I have a friend now that has Lyme disease but like I didn't when Lyme disease first came like I didn't I didn't realize how detrimental Lyme disease could be to someone totally I didn't know either I didn't know the extent of it I really just thought it was like you're sick we know a few people actually who have had Lyme disease and I feel like it presents itself differently like there's a kind of a scale of how it presents itself right and it sounds like I mean I would love to ask for this I'm sure we'll have her on the podcast eventually but it does seem like she was on the more extreme severe end of the scale when it comes to the symptoms that you can have and you know what treatments you need if you have Lyme disease she has a cochular implant and she lost her hearing when she was 17 she started when she's 17 which is because she did say she moved back home so I'm assuming she was like away at school she said she
Starting point is 00:17:09 moved back home which is you know not to discredit anyone who you know is born not being able to hear but you know she probably never learned sign language i'm assuming right you're like i you know most of us we just we don't learn it when we're kids if we don't need to so then her losing your hearing at 17 and then either having to go learn you know it's just i just i could imagine how tough that must have been yeah well like they say you know healing training your body to do anything like learning a language is easier when you're like two than when you're 20 right like if I was two years old and I started taking French lessons every day like I'd have a better chance of learning French than if I started today
Starting point is 00:17:53 100% yeah I try to learn French all the time yeah it doesn't work because you know you're you're too old just kidding you're never too old to learn something new so the golden bachelor woman taught us but basically it would have been a huge life change for like I can't imagine at this age losing my hearing and having to basically reteach my body how to hear using the cochlear implant but it was nerve-wracking like I felt like nervous and protective over her watching it when she said that she'd never told anyone on like a first date or someone that she was dating before it was going to be her first time doing it and like telling this whole story but she did something. an amazing job and honestly it just it was great to just learn more about her and hear her story and everything she's been through and I think it probably made the audience fall more in love with her as a person and I think Joey felt super impressed by her and I just beyond her story like her story is amazing she is such an amazing strong person there I just see their connection like I see their chemistry I've never heard you this passionate about a contestant really that's not
Starting point is 00:19:01 true you really like her Okay, I do. I like her too. Okay, that's great. You're making me insecure about it. No, yeah, why? Don't be insecure. You feel strongly about Daisy.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I think everyone, especially after this episode, everyone's going to feel strongly about her. I mean, yeah. This is great. Days is great. Anyway, on to the next. On to the next. We have another date. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Which is, we see Demi and Jubilee. from Demi from Colton season, Jubilee from Ben Higgins season. They come down to host this. It's like a, what is it? Like a military paintball, throwing paintball. You keep calling it paintball. And I want to correct you because you're wrong,
Starting point is 00:19:53 but you're not wrong because they were throwing, it was like paint balloons. Yeah. So they did a boot camp. They did a bachelor boot camp. Jubilee, who I believe was in the military. Yeah. came and ran the boot camp. Demi was not in the military, but she's been on a lot of bachelor shows and has really qualified to run any of these dates at this point.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. I feel like she's on every season hosting a date. Really? She's hosted, Demi is hosted multiple dates. She's just very entertaining. Yeah. She's a great personality for these things. Yeah. But they do a boot camp date and then they play like capture the flag, capture the heart. You know what's so interesting about this is so much. season, the first group date of the season, which I was on, was a wedding photo shoot in wedding dresses. And then the second part of the date was we went into the woods and we played
Starting point is 00:20:44 like Capture the Flag with paint. And I feel like they basically took that date and said, we're just going to make this two different dates. That's exactly what they did. Yeah. So they play Capture the Heart. I know my observation skills. Nothing gets by me. Nope. So they, I thought it was going to be whatever team one gets to go to the after party. That's typically how it is. Instead, it was one person. Observational. I know. I know. I'm the observation queen. Instead, one person gets after time, Joey picks Edwina. I think she just showed like a lot of like, umph on the date. You know what I mean? Like she was like all in. She was showing her competitive spirit. And I feel like Joey being a tennis player, like an athlete, he respected it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He liked it. He was into it. He was attracted to it. There was another athlete on that date. I noticed. Another athlete? Yeah. Who was it?
Starting point is 00:21:43 And I think he really likes her. Kelsey. Kelsey. Is she an athlete? She looks like one. She does. Yeah. She looks like she was like a soccer player or something.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And she's tall. She is tall. She is tall. I feel like she's one. of if not the tallest girl there.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah. Because I saw it like standing, they were standing next to each other at one point. I was like, oh, she's like almost his height. Yeah. So, um. So Edwina and him have the after part of time.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah. Does she, does he give her a rose on the spot? She gives, he gives her a rose like after the day after they chat. And she just opens up and is super vulnerable about her life and taking care of her family and her siblings and being this kind of mother like figure.
Starting point is 00:22:28 yeah and caring for others and what that's meant to her going back to what you said and just rethinking about past seasons it's early on for all these women to be opening up as much as they are and crying opening up and crying yeah like i and i think that's why we see a lot of i don't even think i cried in front of you until like four months into our relationship i don't know My brain's working at 50% today. So for me to go back and try to think about that. But not to say they shouldn't be crying. They all have really amazing stories and they've all opened up a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And I think it's great. But it's just so early. I'm like, wow, we're really getting into the thick of it, like right away. Yeah. We are all having serious chats, left, right and center. They're everywhere. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So then we go, we go back to the, let's go back to the mansion. Yep. Dates are done. Dates are done. We see Lauren self-eliminates. Whoa, you just jumped to the end of the episode. That wasn't the end of the episode. We still have the Maria nonsense.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, that was before. Was that before? Yeah. Oh, I hate a. God forbid. Okay, fine. Let's jump to the Lauren stuff. Let's jump to the Lauren stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Let's go. Tell me about it, Joe. Are you sure? I'm positive. I have my notes in front of me. Okay. All right. Go to, no, let's go your way.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Okay. So we go back to the mansion. and some drama unfolds. We see Maria is chit-chatting. Actually, let's back even a little more. They seem to be having some sort of like group chat situation. And Medina, who is so pretty, like stunningly beautiful. She is opening up about her insecurity about being, I think she's the oldest woman in the house.
Starting point is 00:24:26 she's 31 yeah i believe joey is 28 i know we've googled this before i think he's 28 so she's like three years older than him um and she immediately says something like i wish i hadn't said that or i shouldn't have said that which made me sad like i was like you know you didn't say anything wrong like you're just but i don't think there's anything opening up about you know you're it's totally valid if you feel insecure that you're the oldest person in the house like yeah i i think that's totally fine. Like, that's how she feels. Then that's what she feels.
Starting point is 00:24:58 You know what I mean? But I also think then the messaging of what unfolds gets like really misconstrued. Well. And it just kind of turns into a mess that didn't need to be created. Well, yeah. It's also a little difficult to follow along with. But I'm under the impression that Maria said big deal. Like, I'm old too.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Well, Maria's 29. She's like two years younger than her, one year older than Joey. Which I don't have any issue with her saying that either. Like if she's just like, yeah, like, I'm old. I'm in this with you. Like, we're the same. Like, you feel like you're old? I'm old too.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm older than Joey too. Like, it's okay. Like, there's multiple women here that are older. Like, I don't think she meant it in a negative way. I think she meant it in like a. I think she meant it in like we're the same age. Not, I don't think she meant it in like saying like. Like screw you.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Like, I'm old too. Like you're trying to say I should feel in. secure about it? Like, I think she meant it in a, like, hey, I'm your buddy. Like, I'm in this with you, like, kind of in a supportive way. That's how, that's how I read it to. Yeah. I'm Jamil Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say
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Starting point is 00:27:23 Oh, my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?
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Starting point is 00:28:50 ear extended trying to like listen in on what the chit chat is. And now Sydney, Sydney wasn't on either of the group dates, right? So the two people that didn't get through days this week were Leah and Sydney. And it's never good when someone has too much time to sit in the house and think and maybe get a little bored. Yeah. It's never, never a good thing. You got a little too much time on your hands. So we've got some eavesdropping happening. And then it looks like the information that Sydney gathered started to spread like wildfire. It was kind of giving, like, I overheard 60% of your conversation and then just, like, filled in the gaps and spread it to the rest of the house. Yeah, and then when Maria confronted her, she said it was your tone.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, your tone, but I was like, but you were, like, you were too, like, you were like 10 feet away from them. It just really seemed, it all just seemed really unnecessary. It was giving, like, assumptions make an ass at you and me, like, or what is it? Is that what is that the thing? Yeah. I just feel like it was blown out of proportion. For sure. Like I feel like Maria was saying like she shouldn't feel insecure.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Joey would never look over her because she's, you know, a few years older. She's beautiful. She should be confident in herself. I'm 29 too. Like it's okay. And I think Sydney took it what she was overhearing as like you're putting her down for sharing an insecurity. Well, I'll just use myself as an example. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:16 When we were in paradise, I was. 30 just turned 35 and Kenny was 40 yeah and so there's a five-year difference between Kenny and I if Kenny would have said man I feel old on this beach I would have been like yeah I'm right there with you yeah we're the same fucking age essentially yeah you would have yeah you would have probably said exactly Maria said yeah yeah so that's why I like putting myself in that situation that's why I feel like I side with her on it even though I just feel like the whole I feel like the whole thing was completely unnecessary yeah The whole thing wasn't necessarily unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I thought she handled it pretty well. Like she was confrontational, but like kind of needed to be. Like she had to address it because she's like, everyone's talking about me. Everyone's got a problem with me. All of a sudden off of a conversation that I had. And there's a lot to be brought to Joey next week. Which is just like the worst thing ever.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, but we also need. Like let's just stop pretending like we don't know it. this is like it happens every like there's a helicopter date all like this happens every season so like it has to that's my point it happens every season and it never ever goes well it never goes well it's like people like we need to learn from history so we don't make the same mistakes in the future but you just said it yourself Sydney isn't on either of the group dates she's in the house all day probably bored out of her mind and you know she's just like I just I'm bored but like go do some yoga meditate last yeah but I mean how long can you do that for I mean I you I do I meditate for
Starting point is 00:32:02 15 minutes and that's long like what do you want what do you want to do so I'll bet you's just like all right I'm getting involved some way I guess maybe I don't know we'll see how it unfolds next week because it felt like an end to the drama happened like if I didn't see the teaser for next week, I'd be like, all right, we've squashed this. Like Maria tried to talk to Medina. She was kind of like, I don't really want to talk to you. She talked to Sydney in the group and basically like aired it out. It was like, this is where I was coming from.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Sydney didn't really seem to be buying it. There definitely seems to be some tension there. Yeah. It feels like Sydney might not like Maria for additional reasons on top of this one situation. Like it felt like there was some animosity. But maybe that's what. why it continues, because it really felt like it was like, okay, we, we squash this
Starting point is 00:32:53 situation. Like, and I think Maria thought that too, but. Well, we'll see. We'll stay tuned. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Okay, so then the most unfortunate thing happens so far this season. Lauren sends herself home. Lauren sends herself home, which is super disappointing. So frustrating.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So sad. I just really I wasn't ready to see her go. No, she was great. Even, even, even, even, I, you know, and I know she was upset about her father and there was things she was upset about at the wedding but when um rachel was like dancing and then they flashed and they kiss and like everyone's cheering and they flashed the lord and she just got like a she's like rolling her eyes checking her drink yeah i know it's great i love her she was uh comedic relief she was comedic relief um
Starting point is 00:33:37 yeah i don't know i mean i thought when joey went to like pull her aside to check on her like she might change her mind like the cake came so did i thought she might be like you know what like you're being so sweet right now like I don't I don't want to leave I'm not ready to do this but she like Joey was like you seem to have made up your mind so yeah he didn't care like you made of your mind you're making this easier on me I wish everyone did this I wish everyone set the cells home I will say I do think one of the if if either of the sisters has a chance with Joey it was best case scenario for for one of them to leave early on.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Totally. Because if they both, I feel like if they both would have stuck around, they would both fall probably in the middle of the pack, probably, you know, have a group of friends that, like, there's a click that they're probably both part of. And I just don't think either of them would have. What?
Starting point is 00:34:43 What do you mean a click? Like, it would have just been, it would have been a click of, of, of, of, of, of, of, girls who probably don't have a connection with Joey, but stick around. And that's where I think they would have fallen. Okay. Interesting take. I think that... Why? You don't think I'm right? I mean, I think at the end of the day, like if you had a really, really strong connection with one of them, it wouldn't have just like fallen short because the other one was there.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I just think maybe there's a little less effort on, you know, your part when you have somebody, when you have a friend there who's a clutch, I guess. Yeah, no, I think it is a bit of a distraction. And I think it makes it hard for Joey to really invest in one of the sisters if he's really focusing on both of them or trying to consider the other one's feelings. I agree with you. I think it's a good thing for Allison that Lauren's gone or like if Allison left, it would have been a good thing for Lauren.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Like, it's way harder. Like they're at an advantage in terms of like comfort because they have each other as a support system, but they're at a disadvantage in terms of like being able to lean into the process of the show and like potentially fall in love, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. So yeah, I was sad to see her go. She left. That's unfortunate. She didn't get her red velvet cake. No, it looked like it was like vanilla. Love a red velvet cake. Felt for her. I mean, they're in California. They could have got that. You know what? They definitely could have got the red velvet cake. When she threw the cake on the ground, I had like a flash factory. I mean, they're in
Starting point is 00:36:18 to Mari throwing the cake in the fire in paradise. As soon as somebody throws a cake, all that pops in my head is, who's the poor sucker that has to fucking clean that up? Like, the person, I want a reality show and the person that's got to clean that up. And also, like, wasteful.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Like, maybe the girls inside would want to invite. Did anyone go home that were shocked about? So, Lauren left on her own. Taylor went home, who I actually was kind of surprised about just because she had, like, drama with Jess in the first episode and then she was kind of involved with like she was the one Maria was talking to when like all the rumor mill started happening yeah so I kind of was taken
Starting point is 00:36:57 back by that Marlina got sent home who honestly we didn't really see a lot of her and Erica got sent home who I think he kissed on night one let me see yeah he did K I oh yeah we both said I was shocked she went home yeah she was on the wedding date I thought she was going to have I I thought I saw in the teaser for the season, like, I just thought I saw like her. I felt like she was like deeper in the season. Like I saw a clip, but I was someone else. That was probably wrong, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Well, you were definitely wrong because she went home. She's eliminated. She's not in the rest of the season. But if I was her, I'd be like, God damn. I had so much confidence leaving night one, like having him make out with me. And then bam, next week, nothing. Yeah. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:37:45 There we go. I guess his kisses just don't mean that much I guess not Just the kissing bandit out here Well I think that's a good A good place to wrap this episode I thought we covered everything I think so too
Starting point is 00:37:58 Are there any Who were the women And the connections that were The standouts for you This episode Standouts for me this episode Are Probably
Starting point is 00:38:11 I mean Daisy number one Yeah, she had the 101. Daisy number one. And then Maria Rachel. Maria Rachel, yeah. Tight. Maybe Lexi. Lex.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Oh, Lexi did the painting thing. The little stand-up bit. Yeah. I do think he likes it. I knew where she was going the minute that started. Not her being like, yeah. Like my arts and museum. now. I was like, okay. Okay, Lexi, turn that photo around, turn that painting around. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Let's see what it looks like. So funny. But yeah, I think that wraps everything. Make sure you guys stay tuned because we are going to have Lauren and Elson, both sisters, on the podcast later on this week. So make sure you check it out and subscribe to Happy Hour because we have exclusive new interviews every single week. Be sure to tune in to our next episode, our interview with Lauren and Allison, and don't forget to subscribe. Bye.
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